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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panthers Crap! · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
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  Speaker 2: This is my friend Matt.
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  Speaker 3: Posh, come on, Posh.
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  Speaker 1: This is my friend T-Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Let's have some fun.
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  Speaker 4: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.
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  Speaker 3: Do it live.
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  Speaker 5: Jack Stratton, formation, scopetta. They're going to let him let
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  Speaker 5: go of his arm. They let him let go of
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  Speaker 5: his arm. Interception again, Lloyd. He's going to get in,
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  Speaker 5: he's going to get in. You're going to get in. Touchdown!
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  Speaker 6: Touchdown!
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  Speaker 2: Touchdown!
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  Speaker 3: David Lloyd! Copetes en serpentinas! Con pulgos artificiales! Con chismas encendidas! Báilale!
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  Speaker 1: Báilale!
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  Speaker 3: Báilale!
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  Speaker 7: That is the Panther Spanish radio team. That is the
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  Speaker 7: voice of Jaime Moreno getting all kinds of fired up
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  Speaker 7: over the Devin Lloyd pick six play, which was absolutely glorious,
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  Speaker 7: as was Devin Lloyd's entire freaking performance on Sunday, man.
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  Speaker 3: That's beautiful.
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  Speaker 8: You know things are going well, Matt, when we started
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  Speaker 8: to bring out the Spanish announce team audio clips. It
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  Speaker 8: feels like in the best of times, those things always
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  Speaker 8: seem to surface.
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  Speaker 9: 2015.
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  Speaker 8: The Gano field goal also was one that was an infamy.
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  Speaker 8: Remember the Gano when he hit the game winner from
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  Speaker 8: however long that was? That was a big one. Cam Newton.
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  Speaker 7: What did they call him? Like El Dinosaur or something
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  Speaker 7: like that? Yeah, something like that. We would not ever, ever, ever,
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  Speaker 7: Call our next guest El Dinosaur. Because that's not what
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  Speaker 7: we do here.
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  Speaker 3: Even if it would fit. Even if it would fit.
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  Speaker 3: Because I know what you were thinking. I'm trying to
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  Speaker 3: stop it from happening.
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  Speaker 7: By the way, our next guest, one of his special teams,
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  Speaker 7: now fellow special teamer now all of a sudden, is
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  Speaker 7: Jalen Coker. We talked about it last segment. I asked
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  Speaker 7: the question, do any regulars in the NFL... in this
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  Speaker 7: modern era, still return punts. It seems very rare. The
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  Speaker 7: two top ones, a lot of people are texting these in,
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  Speaker 7: but you, AI Search, the punt return guys, Parker Washington
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  Speaker 7: and Jacksonville, and Josh Downs. Feels like the two biggest
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  Speaker 7: offensive roles that are doing the punt returns.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, sir.
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  Speaker 7: So it's done a little bit. Anyway, we can ask
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  Speaker 7: JJ about this. JJ Jansen, the leader of that special
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  Speaker 7: teams unit, ladies and gentlemen, the Ironman of your Carolina Panthers,
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  Speaker 7: America's long snapper, joins us for a little special Victory
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  Speaker 7: Tuesday Snapchats.
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  Speaker 3: JJ, how you doing, man? What's going on?
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  Speaker 9: Speaker 4 0 1. Well, look, I got a couple
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  Speaker 9: of things I got to comment on. I have, and
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  Speaker 9: often I'm called a dinosaur, but unrelated to why cam
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  Speaker 9: was commenting on different.
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  Speaker 6: Things at that point.
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  Speaker 9: I'm going to, I'm going to jump into the coker conversation.
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  Speaker 9: Marcus Jones is the best part returner in the NFL
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  Speaker 9: last year. He's the full-time nickel corner for the new
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  Speaker 9: England Patriot, the best one in the league. That's a
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  Speaker 9: good couple more. I'm going to throw a couple more
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  Speaker 9: stats at you.
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  Speaker 6: Cause I'm ready for this conversation last year, last year,
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  Speaker 6: we had 24 total punt returns in the entire season,
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  Speaker 6: like caught and returned 24.
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  Speaker 9: You guys are talking like it's like 37 plays a game.
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  Speaker 9: It's a couple very important plays. And obviously Jalen was
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  Speaker 9: fantastic led to 50 yards of a part return yardage.
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  Speaker 9: And obviously there was a lot of reasons why we
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  Speaker 9: had such a good job in the field position game.
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  Speaker 9: That was, you said something kind of interesting that was
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  Speaker 9: 20 yards of field position difference between us and Atlanta.
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  Speaker 9: But that was like on 10, that was like on
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  Speaker 9: 10 or 11 possessions, meaning 200 yards in the game.
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  Speaker 9: It's a really important, it's a really important job. Jalen
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  Speaker 9: obviously did a fantastic. And the last piece to this
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  Speaker 9: whole conversation is I think there's something very special about
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  Speaker 9: having a guy back there that has a bigger role
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  Speaker 9: with the rest of the team, it takes the pressure
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  Speaker 9: off of that ball in the air, that play, because
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  Speaker 9: he knows that not only is this one of the
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  Speaker 9: plays he's playing, but he has other ways of impacting.
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  Speaker 9: I always thought the toughest returners to go against... We're
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  Speaker 9: the West Welkers, the Julian Edelman, the Rashid Shaheed. Not
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  Speaker 9: only are they fantastic returners, but they have such a
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  Speaker 9: big role on offense or defense that they are more fearless.
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  Speaker 9: And that's really tough to go against when someone isn't
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  Speaker 9: worried about like, Hey, the ball's in the air and
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  Speaker 9: this is.
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  Speaker 6: My only job.
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  Speaker 9: Those guys are easy to play against because they're, They're
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  Speaker 9: filled with fear and that's easy to go down as
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  Speaker 9: a punt return guy. So also good morning. How are
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  Speaker 9: you guys doing?
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  Speaker 8: People are mad at JJ for bringing facts into the show.
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  Speaker 8: Let our guys just be themselves.
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  Speaker 3: JJ, good morning. And you know what?
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  Speaker 7: You talked to me into it. Coke man, keep returning
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  Speaker 7: those punts, baby. Another texter accused us of acting like
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  Speaker 7: peewee football moms with this fear over Jalen Coker's health.
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  Speaker 7: He's a grown man who plays football.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just protecting our guys' hamstrings. That's all I'm trying
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  Speaker 3: to do here.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, but I think, I think you guys, I think
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  Speaker 9: you guys are right to be concerned and keep a lookout.
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  Speaker 9: Like certainly TMAC and Coker and XL were fantastic this week.
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  Speaker 9: And you certainly don't want to take anything away from
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  Speaker 9: the office or if a defensive player went back there,
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  Speaker 9: I just want to add to the conversation that it
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  Speaker 9: is so challenging for the other team when the guy
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  Speaker 9: standing back there is fearless. And obviously we saw Coker
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  Speaker 9: never been back there in an NFL game catches it
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  Speaker 9: and runs for like 39 yards up, up the sideline.
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  Speaker 9: And then the underrated play from his perspective is they
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  Speaker 9: hit a really good point in the second quarter. That was,
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  Speaker 9: would have gone out of bounds at the seven yard line.
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  Speaker 9: He catches it, makes one guy miss and gets the
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  Speaker 9: ball to the 20. And that's where we started drive
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  Speaker 9: that I think we went down and scored a touchdown on. So, like,
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  Speaker 9: that's the stuff that sometimes those unheralded plays, we call
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  Speaker 9: it in our room the first first down, and he
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  Speaker 9: did a really good job with that as well.
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  Speaker 8: JJ, the other day, obviously there's a lot of storylines
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  Speaker 8: we can talk about, but the performance of Devin Lloyd.
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  Speaker 8: We're talking historic in nature in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 8: You've seen, all jokes aside, a lot of great linebacker
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  Speaker 8: performances from your teammates, and you know all about the
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  Speaker 8: ones of the past. But of the ones you've been
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  Speaker 8: involved in, defensive performance-wise, how high up does that rank
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  Speaker 8: of Devon's game on Sunday?
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  Speaker 9: Well, I think when you consider the complete package of
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  Speaker 9: everything that he did, I think that's probably the best
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  Speaker 9: individual game. The, the, certainly the two others that come
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  Speaker 9: to mind, we've talked about them on the show before
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  Speaker 9: the Kinkley's two games, the one in Dallas with the
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  Speaker 9: two interceptions and the touchdown. I don't think he got
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  Speaker 9: a sack in that game. So Devin one ups in there.
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  Speaker 9: Now Devin didn't punch the quarterback in the face like
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  Speaker 9: Luke did. So maybe that's an unofficial stat in the,
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  Speaker 9: in the record book. I'm not a particular category, but
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  Speaker 9: And then obviously he had, we've talked about it. Luke
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  Speaker 9: had the 24 tackles and the, and the interception in
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  Speaker 9: the playoff clinching game versus New Orleans in 2013. But,
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  Speaker 9: I thought Devin was fantastic this week. Him and Bobby
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  Speaker 9: O'Kara K were a fantastic on the inside, both tipped
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  Speaker 9: balls for the other guy as we went through it.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, that was, that was pretty good. I mean,
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  Speaker 9: there could have been one or two more interceptions by
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  Speaker 9: the linebackers, a couple of tip balls. You know, Bobby
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  Speaker 9: had the one that just barely nicked the ground would
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  Speaker 9: have been another interception. So those guys were really active,
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  Speaker 9: you know, certainly a ton of credit needs to go
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  Speaker 9: to the, you know, the front four, front five, getting
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  Speaker 9: after Cooper rush and strand and, But, but I mean,
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  Speaker 9: he was so active in the game, the fourth down
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  Speaker 9: stop kind of gets washed away because of the sacks
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  Speaker 9: and the interceptions. But that was a big play in
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  Speaker 9: the game when, when the game was certainly very much
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  Speaker 9: in doubt and being able to sniff out sort of
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  Speaker 9: a trick play there on fourth and one was a big,
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  Speaker 9: big stop for us as well.
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  Speaker 7: Multiple people are pointing out, JJ, that Luke's pick six
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  Speaker 7: did not involve a teammate dropping the people's elbow on
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  Speaker 7: a member of the team. Travis Gibson went on social
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  Speaker 7: media and explained what he was doing. Says, I was
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  Speaker 7: trying to jump over Devin Lloyd and avoid hitting Devin Lloyd,
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  Speaker 7: but the way he landed was on top of a falcon,
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  Speaker 7: and it looked very much bone like a wrestling maneuver. Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: He was trying to avoid Devin Lloyd.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That was hilarious.
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  Speaker 9: Avoid Devin. He felt mildly humorous and bad about that simultaneously.
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  Speaker 9: We call him POV for very obvious reasons. For those
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  Speaker 9: of you that follow him on social media. And that
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  Speaker 9: was definitely a, a, POV crushed the Falcons on.
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  Speaker 3: Your way down.
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  Speaker 9: But yeah, those plays get a little funky. It looks
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  Speaker 9: so awkward, but when guys are getting rolled up on,
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  Speaker 9: sometimes they know just to get their feet out of
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  Speaker 9: the ground. And unfortunately it kind of landed into a
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  Speaker 9: WWE move, but That was definitely a whoopsie from the game,
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  Speaker 9: but certainly funny for social media.
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  Speaker 3: He avoided Devin better than Atlanta did. The quarterbacks couldn't
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  Speaker 3: do that. No doubt about it. Travis Gibson also.
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  Speaker 7: JJ, I don't know if you– you probably got better
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  Speaker 7: things to do than sit around and watch ESPN's Monday
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  Speaker 7: night pregame show.
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  Speaker 3: I do not, though, sir. They do a thing. Jason
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  Speaker 3: Kelsey does a thing. What is it?
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  Speaker 7: Find that work or whatever. I guess it's a new feature. And,
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  Speaker 7: you know, it's it's guys given the extra mile. And
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  Speaker 7: he he featured the Panthers defense on Devin Lloyd's first
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  Speaker 7: interception return, the one where he stiff armed and got
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  Speaker 7: the most yards. And they showed all the guys on
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  Speaker 7: defense blocking. And that included Travis Gibson, who was way
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  Speaker 7: behind the play, but still drove a Falcons player like
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  Speaker 7: 15 yards backwards away from the play. Like it was
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  Speaker 7: it was sweet, man.
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  Speaker 9: Those guys are well coached up on it. That is
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  Speaker 9: part of the drill work, especially in training camp, but
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  Speaker 9: even as we go through the season, finding work, you know,
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  Speaker 9: blocking the intended receivers, finding the quarterback, if he wants
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  Speaker 9: to get involved, that's a highly detailed work. And the,
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  Speaker 9: and the cool part is, and I think you saw
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  Speaker 9: it come alive is once that happens once in a
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  Speaker 9: game or in a, in a season guys realize, Hey,
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  Speaker 9: that's this guy blocks for me once, let me go
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  Speaker 9: block for him. And it becomes a really kind of
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  Speaker 9: infectious thing, especially when the ball is getting turned over,
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  Speaker 9: and those things seem to come in bunches as they
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  Speaker 9: did on Sunday, but it's all about guys finding work
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  Speaker 9: and getting to the ball and then blocking for one another.
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  Speaker 8: JJ, I was texting with Colin Hoggard, our boss here,
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  Speaker 8: on Sunday, or Saturday, before you played Atlanta. He pointed
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  Speaker 8: out the Atlanta game was your 35th career game. against
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  Speaker 8: atlanta and then we started talking about is jj going
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  Speaker 8: to get to the point when he starts to play
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  Speaker 8: against you know the sons of former teammates or people
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  Speaker 8: that played in the league and i immediately thought okay
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  Speaker 8: your first game as a panther jj was 2009 right.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 8: And Jeremiah Trotter was on that Eagles team in game one,
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  Speaker 8: and now Josiah Trotter's on Tampa Bay. So this year,
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  Speaker 8: there might be other examples, but I know for sure
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  Speaker 8: this year you will play against Josiah Trotter twice, having
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  Speaker 8: played in a game against his father in 2009.
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  Speaker 9: I'm trying to think, you know, certainly go to all
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  Speaker 9: the juniors. Those are always the easier ones to figure out.
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  Speaker 9: I don't know if I had played against Joey Porter senior.
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  Speaker 9: That might've been another one. I can't quite remember. I'll
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  Speaker 9: have to go back and look, but yeah, I'm sure there's,
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  Speaker 9: there's probably a couple of guys that were a little
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  Speaker 9: bit older when I came into the league. And the
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  Speaker 9: genetics and football are strong. So if you have a
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  Speaker 9: dad that played in the NFL, there's a decent chance
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  Speaker 9: you've got a shot at making it yourself. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Joey Porter did play to 2011. So I'm sure somewhere
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  Speaker 3: along the way.
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  Speaker 8: Also at some point you keep going, JJ, and you
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  Speaker 8: will Thomas Davis's son will eventually make it to the league.
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  Speaker 8: You may have a moment where you're playing or playing
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  Speaker 8: with TD son.
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  Speaker 9: And the best part of that is he's at Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, there you go.
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  Speaker 9: It is perfect because I can just keep turning the knife.
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  Speaker 9: As much as TD gave me crap for all those years,
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  Speaker 9: at the end of the day, he selected the Irish.
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  Speaker 9: So that's all that you need to know. That's all
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  Speaker 9: you need to know.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 7: We got a texter suggesting that JJ stay around long
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  Speaker 7: enough to play against a grandson of a guy he
• 12:16
  Speaker 7: played with.
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  Speaker 3: Or against.
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  Speaker 4: That would be unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: People are bringing up the.
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  Speaker 9: Can you imagine what... Can you guys imagine what the
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  Speaker 9: league minimum will be in 20 60?
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  Speaker 3: That'd be unbelievable.
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  Speaker 8: Keep working out baby. A lot of people bring it up.
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  Speaker 8: The Harrisons, Marvin Harrison and his son. That's gotta be one, right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: That, that would definitely be one for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Frank Gore, Frank Gore and Frank Gore jr. Coming up.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of them. That's crazy.
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  Speaker 9: We're just going for the juniors. See, that's how everybody
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  Speaker 9: else is working. I bet you there's somebody that isn't
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  Speaker 9: a junior out there.
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  Speaker 3: That's the challenge.
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  Speaker 9: Come on audience here to find that's a little harder.
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  Speaker 3: Come on listeners. JJ has issued a challenge to you.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 7: I want to make sure I ask you this while
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  Speaker 7: we have you on. Um, it's, it's awesome to me
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  Speaker 7: to see how downfield this passing game has been the
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  Speaker 7: average distance of target about 10 and a half where
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  Speaker 7: last year for Bryce, it was 6.9. The average play
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  Speaker 7: action depth of target the other day was 13. It
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  Speaker 7: was high on the first day too. So It's more
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  Speaker 7: pushing the ball downfield. It's more play action downfield. These
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  Speaker 7: are things we really wanted. And like from your perspective,
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  Speaker 7: what do you think is the reason here? Because we
• 13:29
  Speaker 7: on the outside say, oh, this is something Idzik much
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  Speaker 7: want to do. And he really was pushing Canales. Now
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  Speaker 7: that I'm calling the plays, can we do this? It's
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  Speaker 7: maybe it's not that simple. Like, why do you think
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  Speaker 7: this has been an emphasis so far?
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  Speaker 9: Well, I think as the league is continuing to evolve,
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  Speaker 9: there is, there is the opportunities for teams to sort
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  Speaker 9: of learn, Hey, what is going well? And I think
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  Speaker 9: there's a big part of even Bryce's growth, right? You
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  Speaker 9: come from college, you're in the shotgun and all you're
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  Speaker 9: doing is kind of the more of a spread style
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  Speaker 9: of offense. And I think there's, there's room for development,
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  Speaker 9: getting centers are getting quarterbacks under center and turning their
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  Speaker 9: back to the defense and is a very challenging skill
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  Speaker 9: that has to be required. We all sit back and go,
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  Speaker 9: we'll just run play action. That's the best play in
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  Speaker 9: football on first intent, which it is, but asking quarterbacks
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  Speaker 9: to turn their back to the defense for someone that
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  Speaker 9: has watched the defense, his entire career is a development
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  Speaker 9: and it is a learning process. That being said, this
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  Speaker 9: is the best receiving core Bryce has had. We've, we've
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  Speaker 9: got three or four guys that are really good. They're
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  Speaker 9: excellent with contested catches. We saw both really all three
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  Speaker 9: of them make outstanding catches. A couple on the sideline XL,
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  Speaker 9: the thing that the TV broadcast didn't catch on the
• 14:43
  Speaker 9: XL ball is when Bryce first threw it, I thought
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  Speaker 9: he overthrew XL and, and X hit another gear to
• 14:50
  Speaker 9: go run that thing down. Like that's, that's some of
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  Speaker 9: the unspoken talks about like depth of target. Like, uh,
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  Speaker 9: do you have guys that can go make one-on-one grabs?
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  Speaker 9: Do you have guys that can go run a ball down?
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  Speaker 9: Because really in that particular case, not only is it
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  Speaker 9: a two minute drive that we're trying to get down
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  Speaker 9: the field, but but Bryce is throwing the ball away
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  Speaker 9: from the defender. So you've got to have guys go
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  Speaker 9: get it. So from that perspective, I think the wide
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  Speaker 9: receivers are as much a part of the conversation as Bryce,
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  Speaker 9: as Isaac, as coach Canales. I mean, who's calling the
• 15:22
  Speaker 9: plays is, is obviously a big conversation, but the entire staff,
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  Speaker 9: you know, coach bevel has come in. He came from Miami.
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  Speaker 9: They ran a lot of play action. I think there's
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  Speaker 9: new creativity throughout that room, different voices, new concepts. but
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  Speaker 9: really Bryce has been the one that's made it alive. And,
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  Speaker 9: and just from a, from a fan and an observer, like,
• 15:41
  Speaker 9: like myself on the sideline, not only do I think
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  Speaker 9: we've had a really good job with the scheme and
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  Speaker 9: we've moved the pocket, but Bryce has really found his
• 15:50
  Speaker 9: footing in terms of being able to manipulate the pocket.
• 15:53
  Speaker 9: I don't think there's anyone better in the NFL at
• 15:56
  Speaker 9: throwing the ball. Like when his mind says now the
• 16:00
  Speaker 9: ball comes out so fast and, And you see it.
• 16:02
  Speaker 9: He doesn't always need his feet. He's got all the
• 16:04
  Speaker 9: different arm angles. The creativity comes alive. And on the
• 16:08
  Speaker 9: play action passing, his ability to access all different parts
• 16:11
  Speaker 9: of the field has been really impressive to watch.
• 16:14
  Speaker 8: We didn't bring up the note about you and the
• 16:16
  Speaker 8: fathers and sons to have you disrespected by the text
• 16:20
  Speaker 8: line this way. You did not play. against Archie Manning, Peyton,
• 16:24
  Speaker 8: and Eli, all right?
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: Of all people. A lot of people bringing up Joe
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: and JC. I didn't play.
• 16:29
  Speaker 9: Against Peyton and Eli. I just missed Archie.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Now, a lot of.
• 16:33
  Speaker 8: People are saying Joe and JC. You missed Joe Horn
• 16:37
  Speaker 8: by a couple years, right, on his end?
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:40
  Speaker 9: It probably wouldn't have been by much, though. I've got
• 16:42
  Speaker 9: to be honest.
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: It was two years. Two years. New York, two years
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: after Joe.
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: Here's a hell of an idea. Multiple people want you
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: to pull a LeBron. They want you to train your
• 16:53
  Speaker 7: son the long snap. You and him long snap in
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: the league at the same time, J.J.
• 17:00
  Speaker 9: Well, again, I cannot wait to see what the league
• 17:03
  Speaker 9: minimum is in 2045. That'll be fantastic. That'll be a
• 17:07
  Speaker 9: fantastic opportunity.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: I saw you out there with my, I saw you
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: work with him on long snap.
• 17:13
  Speaker 9: Yeah, this isn't going to shock you, but my son
• 17:15
  Speaker 9: is the long snapper at his middle school team as
• 17:19
  Speaker 9: is TJ Olson at his middle school team. And so
• 17:22
  Speaker 9: there are some, there are some family heritage there. I
• 17:25
  Speaker 9: don't know that Greg cares that, that his son is
• 17:28
  Speaker 9: doing long snapping as much as it is playing tight end,
• 17:31
  Speaker 9: which TJ also is, but just so we can, we
• 17:34
  Speaker 9: can maintain the heritage of sort of a one, two
• 17:36
  Speaker 9: long snapper. Jansen and Olsen.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: I love that. Well, Greg always thought he was better
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: than you, didn't he? Isn't that what you say?
• 17:41
  Speaker 7: So now he's got his son trying to prove that
• 17:43
  Speaker 7: an Olsen can snap better than a Jansen.
• 17:45
  Speaker 9: He still thinks he's better than me.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 17:48
  Speaker 9: That sort of stuff doesn't change.
• 17:49
  Speaker 7: Did you know that Olsen made an appearance in the
• 17:52
  Speaker 7: Fox broadcast of the game on Sunday? Did you hear
• 17:55
  Speaker 7: about the broadcasting snafu for Fox where they were playing
• 17:58
  Speaker 7: the audio of other games, including Olsen doing the Bears?
• 18:02
  Speaker 9: I didn't know that Greg's game made it in. I didn't.
• 18:05
  Speaker 9: I can assure you, not only being a Panther fan,
• 18:07
  Speaker 9: I think based on how ugly that game was in Chicago,
• 18:10
  Speaker 9: you wish he had our game here last week.
• 18:13
  Speaker 8: I got to tell you, it was the best of
• 18:14
  Speaker 8: both worlds, JT. We got Olsen doing the Panther game,
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: but he wasn't actually doing the Panther game. He was
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: doing his own game. We had Greg on the call,
• 18:21
  Speaker 8: but it was a little confusing.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Here for a while.
• 18:23
  Speaker 9: I think it was like Kevin Harlan a couple of
• 18:25
  Speaker 9: years ago was doing the play by play of a
• 18:27
  Speaker 9: game of like some other game. He wasn't even at,
• 18:30
  Speaker 9: I mean, look, Greg has many jobs. I'm sure he
• 18:33
  Speaker 9: would love to dual call games, both again in Chicago
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: and in Carolina.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: Just ask, just ask, pull it off. All right, man.
• 18:41
  Speaker 7: Good talking to you. Congrats on the wind, man. We
• 18:43
  Speaker 7: enjoyed it as fans. Best of luck in Cleveland. Thanks
• 18:46
  Speaker 7: for coming on, man.
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: Absolutely. Just remember, we're all Coke heads.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: There you go. That's a drop right there, huh, J.J.?
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: You the man. There you go. Yeah, that drop will
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: be used every time we talk about Jalen Coker now.
• 18:58
  Speaker 8: When we come back, Adam Gold from 99.9 The Fan
• 19:02
  Speaker 8: in Raleigh. He's going to try to explain to us
• 19:05
  Speaker 8: what he saw with the NC State Vanderbilt finish. We've
• 19:08
  Speaker 8: got the Canes coming up next week and plenty of
• 19:10
  Speaker 8: Panther talk as well on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: We'll be right back.
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. It's been a fun show, man.
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: These winning weeks, man, they just hit different, right? They
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: just hit different. They don't stress you out. Although, Bone
• 19:41
  Speaker 7: and I, in fairness, last hour were stressed out about
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: Jalen Coker continuing to turn punts.
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: We're afraid he's going to get hurt. But JJ has
• 19:47
  Speaker 8: calmed us down. We had to calm JJ down and
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: say amen. just don't worry about it, man.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: It's all good. JJ came with so many facts. I
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: was like, I guess I'm not worried anymore. Oh, how
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: can you argue with that, man?
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: It's been pointed out, Bone, by a texter that JJ
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: might know more about special teams than we do.
• 20:03
  Speaker 8: Someone says we got treated like the referees on a
• 20:06
  Speaker 8: Sunday afternoon by JJ.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, that is true.
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: Just completely changed your mind right there on the spot.
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: Set you straight.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, man. If you have missed any of it, you
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: missed it. I know what, Coker returning kicks, too.
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: You missed our conversation with JJ or any of the
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: conversations so far on this show. A lot of good,
• 20:22
  Speaker 7: lively Panthers talk and our What the Bleep segment as well.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Go back, listen to the podcast.
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: Fitty does a great job of getting them up there
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: on all platforms. Get up there on all platforms, WFNZ.com, Apple, Spotify,
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: and more. So check them out. Right now we've got
• 20:39
  Speaker 7: a lot of college football stuff to talk about. including
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: NC State finding the most NC State way to lose
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: a damn game ever on that late fumble as Bailey
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: just tried to run the clock down in the end zone.
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: Adam Gold joins us from 99.9 to Fan and Rally. And,
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: of course, weeknights here on WFNZ at 7 o'clock. He
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: is Adam Gold. Goldie, what the heck's happening, man?
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: How you doing?
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I'm doing well. Why are you making me talk about that?
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Because you've got to own that, man, being Mr. Raleigh.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: It's my fault. I'm not blaming you. I'm not blaming you.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Dave wasn't going to take the blame.
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: It sounded like he lightened that up a little bit yesterday.
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: He did.
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: Spreading it around. Like, what did you, I mean, I
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: don't know what there is to say. It's one of
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: the dumbest things ever. But what is there to say
• 21:36
  Speaker 7: about it, Goldie?
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: It was absurd.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole thing was absurd. I mean, look, stuff happens.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: NC State stuff happens.
• 21:46
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have taken the delay game. I would have
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: just lined up and punted it. And I would have
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: punted it as high and as far and as out
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: of bounds as I could have. I would have had
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the punter aim the ball into the stands. I don't
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: even care how far it goes. You only got to
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: kill seven seconds. I think you can get pretty close
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: to seven seconds with a punt. Or you can simply
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: have the punter run out of the back of the
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: end zone and then squib kick it. They created the
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: most chaotic. I mean, the whole play was chaos. Did
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: anybody even bother to block on that play?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: It didn't look like it, did it? No, no, not
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: at all.
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: This might be a, look, I preface this, this might
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: be a dumb question, but how are the NC State
• 22:35
  Speaker 8: fans holding up right now there in Raleigh?
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Well, here's what's interesting to me. I found a fair
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: amount of people who were caping up for Dave Dorn.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: And they were, you know, maybe not his coaching, but no,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: he's right to blame C.J.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Bailey.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: He makes all this money, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yep, the players do get paid, but let's
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: not let's not conflate that with being professionals because they're
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: not professionals. They're not professionals yet, but they do get paid.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: And I think that has given people even more license
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: to criticize players. And I have no problem criticizing CJ Bailey.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I said it, he deserves to be criticized for it.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: He screwed it up, but there was a lot of
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: shared blame to go around. And that's what on Saturday
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: evening or afternoon in Nashville, uh, That's what I didn't detect.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I basically heard we're blaming CJ. We're blaming all the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: missed tackles. I can't go out on the field and
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: tackle for these guys. I'm like, yeah, that's kind of
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: out of Dave's playbook. But in a raw situation like this,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: I can't even fathom how that game was lost, even
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: though Vanderbilt could have won that game on the possession before. So,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, we lose sight of the fact that After
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the middle of the third quarter, Vanderbilt was probably the
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: better team.
• 23:59
  Speaker 7: You already blew most of that 17-point lead and had
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: Vandy threatening before the Barnhart pick. It's not like there
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: weren't other things done wrong in that game, no doubt.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: Adam, I know we've talked a lot about Dabo's job security,
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: but we'll put him to the side here for this one.
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: Of the teams and coaches in the Carolinas that blew
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: the double-digit leads on Saturday, Doran, Beamer, Belichick, Of those three,
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: who do you consider to be in the most trouble
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: going forward?
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I believe that would be Shane Beamer. I like Shane, too,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: but it's kind of unraveled in South Carolina, and I
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: feel bad because I absolutely adore his dad. I don't
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: know Shane at all, but I've spent enough time with
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Frank Beamer to know what he's about, and I've He's
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: just one of the best humans in coaching. I hope
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: it works out for Shane, but I think if South
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Carolina wants to move on, he'll find another spot.
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: I read a thread yesterday from South Carolina fans. It
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: was on 3Thread, and it said, How are you feeling
• 25:09
  Speaker 8: right now? And every single comment said, love Shane, love
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: what he stands for. No one takes joy in the
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: fact that it's not succeeding. But the term, Mac and Adam,
• 25:19
  Speaker 8: that came up a lot was exhausting. It's been an
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: exhausting run of waiting for them to consistently turn the corner,
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: and it's just not happening.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: He does seem like a great dude, though. He really does, man.
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: He is.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: You know, here's what we shouldn't forget. That it is
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the University of South Carolina. I'm not trying to throw
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: shade on that school and that football program. But other
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: than a hot second with Lou Holtz and the Steve
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: Spurrier era, South Carolina is kind of middling, right? They're
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: kind of, I don't know, Fulham?
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's fair.
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: I think that's definitely fair. No doubt about it. Goldie,
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: the clip.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: You always get the Premier League references.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: Bone's getting there, too. No, he's not. Oh, you don't
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: think so? No, no.
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: He's very down on Chelsea, Bone. I've watched every Chelsea game,
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: but I'll tell you what, though. There's a lot going
• 26:22
  Speaker 8: on in those games. Not a lot of defense from Chelsea.
• 26:25
  Speaker 9: Not at all.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Not a second. Hey, do you know how far Fulham
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: is from Chelsea, Bone?
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Well, I got to be honest, Mac had to correct me.
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: I thought they were called Full Ham until about a
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: week ago. It's got to be, hey, Mac, they got
• 26:39
  Speaker 8: this Full Ham team.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: It's got to be within five miles or so, right?
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like eight, seven or eight miles. Yeah,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: it's right on the, I think it's the Thames.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Bone knows what all the London derbies are for Chelsea.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Of course he knows that.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Raven Cottage, man, what a setting.
• 26:53
  Speaker 7: All right, we're talking to Adam Gold right here on
• 26:57
  Speaker 7: the Mac and Bone Show. Let's talk about UNC and
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: Clemson's game. like, did you view that as like Clemson
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: made adjustments after getting down early, found something, got Tate
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: Reynolds going with some confidence? Like, did you view that
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: as well done Clemson? Did you view that as Carolina
• 27:18
  Speaker 7: blowing a lead and heels fans should be ticked? How
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: did you view that game?
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I thought Carolina lost that game in the first quarter
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: and a half. They should have been so far ahead,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: and their offense went away. I don't think they ran
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the ball well enough. Maybe that's Clemson, but it looked
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: early on as though Carolina was just going to run
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: through them like poop through a goose, and that just
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: went the other way. And certainly I do think the
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: lightning delay mattered. They were not the same team after
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: the lightning delay, but I thought they lost that game
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: in the first half more so than the second part
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: of the game. And I think what Dabo said after
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the game was true. They wore Carolina down. The Tar
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Heels don't have the depth that Clemson has, even though
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Clemson's kind of middling as well. But to me, Carolina
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: lost that game in the first half, not the second half.
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: Adam, a week from today, we get to see the
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: Canes in action for the first time, 5 p.m. next
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: Tuesday against the Florida Panthers. The NHL could be a
• 28:20
  Speaker 8: little topsy-turvy year to year. All of a sudden, a
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: team that was good a year before may not have
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: a good year. Who's the biggest challenger right now entering
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: the season to the Canes in the Eastern Conference?
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: In the division, I believe it will be Washington with
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: an outside chance at New Jersey. In the conference... I
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: know that everybody says it's Florida and Florida won the
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: two cups prior to Carolina and they returned basically that
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: entire team plus Brady could Chuck. Cause Alexander Barkoff is
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: back from injury, but I think Montreal is going to
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: be the best team in the Atlantic division, not Florida.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Brad Marchand's already hurt an older team. I think Florida
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: is a blue line, which if they can stay healthy
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: will be really good. But, man, there's a lot of
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: injury history on that back end, and there's some age
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: on that back end, too. And Jacob Markstrom, that is
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: a total wild card. There's a lot of teams in
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the East with wild cards in goal, but Jacob Markstrom
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: is a big wild card in goal for me. But
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: I think Montreal is going to win the Atlanta. But
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Florida is going to be very good. I think Tampa
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: will be good. I think Buffalo will be good. The
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: Atlantic Division is a great division. There's going to be
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: a team that's going to miss the playoffs in that
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: division that could advance a couple of rounds.
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: All right, Goldie. Next week, we will talk more about
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: the Panthers. It'll be opening day of the season next
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: Tuesday when we talk to you. We also will talk
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: about how NC State blew a game against App State.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: We'll have that conversation, too.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: Don't do it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 9: I love App, though. I love App.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I wish the game was up there.
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that would add even more intrigue to it. But, yeah,
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: we've got App State fans are crowing. They think State's vulnerable.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: We will see. We will see. We will see. All right, Goldie,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: you're the man. Thanks for coming on, as always, brother.
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: You got it.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Talk to you later, Pete.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: All right. Listen to Goldie at seven o'clock weeknights here
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: on WFNZ. We replay the show. It does need to
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: be said, Bone, that this time there's always like a
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: bone to pick with Goldie on the text line afterwards.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: And he doesn't give a damn. That's the beauty of Goldie.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: The C.J.
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: Bailey stuff that he said people didn't like him saying
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: he's not a pro, even though he gets paid and
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: that the blame shouldn't be, you know, on him the
• 30:38
  Speaker 7: way the way it was and all that sort of stuff.
• 30:41
  Speaker 7: A lot of people are saying, bro, the money these
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: guys and he said it yesterday, the money these guys
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: are making. It's not like the old days when you
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: would feel bad holding back.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 30:53
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: And athlete accountable. It's an interesting point, man. There's definitely
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: blame to go around, and thank God Doran said it
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: that way on Monday because he didn't say it that
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: way on Saturday.
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: One man that never gets blame is Fitty Aloysius Marlowe Jr.
• 31:06
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  Speaker 4: So the Rams win big on Monday Night Football.
• 31:50
  Speaker 12: They beat the Giants 28-6. With the biggest story coming
• 31:55
  Speaker 12: out is that quarterback Jackson Dart believes to have a
• 32:00
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• 32:03
  Speaker 4: For the Giants quarterback.
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  Speaker 12: Bone was doing some digging, saw some audio where the
• 32:10
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• 32:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, during the game, you could see the trainer, you
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: could actually see the words on his mouth. Four to
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: six weeks, and Harbaugh has a look on his face like, oh, great.
• 32:24
  Speaker 7: Oh, God.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I got Jameis now for a month and a few weeks. Oh,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: my God.
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: That was ugly yesterday. Jameis is such a lovable guy, man.
• 32:31
  Speaker 7: Until he plays. I got to tell you, somebody said
• 32:34
  Speaker 7: on the text line, what's funnier, his passing or his videos?
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Jameis does everything well.
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: He's one of the great leaders, Mac, that you don't
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: want leading the team on the field.
• 32:44
  Speaker 7: Just don't ask him to get into the game. That's
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: so true. Just give the speech and then go grab
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: the clipboard. Even Jameis looks like, oh, now I got
• 32:51
  Speaker 7: to go play.
• 32:52
  Speaker 12: Look, guys, we got Smitty on Get Up, and he's
• 32:54
  Speaker 12: talking about... Oh, not the Panthers, the Dallas Cowboys.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: I'm glad the Cowboys finally got some run on here.
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: I know.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: I've been worried.
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: They haven't taught Cowboys defense since 845 yesterday morning. When
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: we come back, Mac, Panthers crap. National media love for Bryce.
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: Some impressive Panther numbers. And finally, after a full year,
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: Carolina Mike has dropped a new Panthers anthem.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Heck yeah.
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: A fully new bop from Carolina Mike. You'll hear that next.
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
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  Speaker 13: If you can get consistent Bryce, the Panthers are going
• 33:54
  Speaker 13: to be a 10-11-1 football team that's good enough to
• 33:56
  Speaker 13: win the division, or at minimum good enough to be
• 33:58
  Speaker 13: a 6th or 7th seed in the NFC.
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  Speaker 6: Do you pay?
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: The only thing.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Do you pay? If he's consistent, you have to.
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: Hell yeah.
• 34:06
  Speaker 13: Because, one, every year the next draft class is the
• 34:09
  Speaker 13: greatest thing ever. Bro, this quarterback class got one dude
• 34:14
  Speaker 13: I'm excited about. Trinidad Chambliss.
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: Oh, Emmanuel Acho on the Speakeasy podcast raving about Bryce
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: Young and saying that Bryce Young is going to need
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: to get paid. And then a direct shot to the
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: heart of one bebop who thinks, Bone, there will be
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: 62 amazing quarterbacks from this draft class. And the Panthers
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: need to just simply draft one of them and win
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: 14 Super Bowls. That is a direct shot there at
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: that school of thought, because Acho tried to say only
• 34:47
  Speaker 7: Chambliss is the one that he believes. It does happen
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: every year, though. I'm not saying it's necessarily happening right now, Boat. Um,
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: although Dante Moore and that whole thing, the way he
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: played against Oklahoma state and that whole thing that he
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: has a tell that, that is able to show that
• 35:02
  Speaker 7: Oklahoma state picked up on that shows whether or not
• 35:04
  Speaker 7: he's passing.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Or they're running the ball.
• 35:06
  Speaker 7: Um, wasn't the best moment for him, but it does
• 35:09
  Speaker 7: often go that way to where, how many times when
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: we needed a quarterback, where we romanticizing about the upcoming class,
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: and then you get to the draft and it's like, eh,
• 35:17
  Speaker 7: there's really only a couple of these guys.
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: And then they get nitpicks so much that eventually, uh,
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: of the seven guys projected, four have flaws. Also, three
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: other guys will then move into the draft. Three other
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: guys will come out of nowhere and be first-round picks.
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: So from where the class is like today to where
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: it ends up being, Mac, Drew Auer and Kay Klubnick
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: were thought to be um draft prospects high draft prospects
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: a year ago kate especially yeah and uh and usmeyer
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: as well and then it happens all those guys move
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: out new guys move up in the draft it happens
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: all the time so we'll see the ideal scenario is
• 35:56
  Speaker 8: bryce keeps falling out he just seems so much more
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: confident and in control and we know that he is
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: getting the ball downfield more taking more shots and hitting
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: them and.
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: Uh If he keeps that up, we pay him. I
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: don't give a damn if they give him a dang blank.
• 36:09
  Speaker 7: If he's going to play like this for 17 games,
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: you can put a blank check on the table for Brycey.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: I pay him. Because this is ridiculous, man, the way
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: he's playing. I pay him with Tepper's money. It's true.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: We're very good at spending other people's money. We're very
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: good at that.
• 36:24
  Speaker 7: Tepper, Plotkin, and Schnall, we're willing to spend y'all's money
• 36:27
  Speaker 7: if you just want us to do that for you.
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: All right, let's do a little, instead of random crap,
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: let's do a little Panthers crap segment here. and bounce
• 36:34
  Speaker 7: around bone to a bunch of stuff. I feel like
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: this is the time now to give you all the
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: Bryce Young ranks in the NFL at quarterback, and they
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: are glorious.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: And yes, before you.
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: Send your text, I realize we're two games in, and
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: we played the Bears and the Falcons.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: I hear a full disclaimer.
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: I want you to realize that I am aware of that,
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: and there could be some regression to the mean here.
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: But it is just fun to talk about because he
• 36:59
  Speaker 7: hasn't gotten off into a start near like this. So
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: let's talk about his ranks around the league, Boney. He
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: is sixth on PFF in offensive overall grade. He is
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: sixth in passing grade on PFF. He is fourth in
• 37:14
  Speaker 7: big time throws so far this season with four of
• 37:17
  Speaker 7: them on PFF stat. He is ninth in turnover worthy
• 37:21
  Speaker 7: throw percentage. in terms of protecting the football on PFF.
• 37:26
  Speaker 7: He's fifth in deep passing grade, Bone, on PFF. Do
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: you know where he ranked last year on that? I
• 37:31
  Speaker 7: was a little uncertain.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Can you remind me? Oh, that was number one. That's right.
• 37:35
  Speaker 7: So you've got some work to do there, Bone. Fourth
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: in average distance of target. He's usually very low in
• 37:40
  Speaker 7: that one. Third in yards per attempt, he's usually low
• 37:42
  Speaker 7: in that one, 8.9 yards per attempt. First in overall
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: play action grade, first in play action passing grade, and
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: sixth in yards per attempt on play action. These are
• 37:53
  Speaker 7: just fun. He's got a lot more work to do, Boney,
• 37:56
  Speaker 7: but my God, what a start.
• 37:59
  Speaker 8: Is there any number, Mac, he hasn't been good at?
• 38:01
  Speaker 8: Because you just named off about 15. Is there anything
• 38:03
  Speaker 8: he hasn't done well?
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. Numbers-wise, I mean. I don't think so.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen one. I mean, I can't.
• 38:08
  Speaker 7: I guess I didn't look up the rating and, like,
• 38:10
  Speaker 7: the completion percentage and stuff like that. I know he
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: did have a fair share of misses the other day
• 38:16
  Speaker 7: early in that game, but, my God, he's playing at
• 38:19
  Speaker 7: a freaking high level. And it's just– and I was
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: watching the– you sent me the link. I was watching
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: the QB Show podcast, QB School, whatever the hell I'm
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: trying to say, with JTO Sullivan, and it was so
• 38:30
  Speaker 7: fun to watch. And it just– it's more anticipation throws.
• 38:33
  Speaker 7: Anticipation throws to the boundary. It's just like ball placement
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: on the boundary. It's just a cool watch. Our little
• 38:40
  Speaker 7: boy's growing up. Our little Bryce, he's growing the hell up.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: No doubt.
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: Even if he dropped off, he's not going to be–
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: that high in every grade the whole year. But even
• 38:50
  Speaker 8: if he drops off a little bit, that's still really
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: great stuff. So there's even room to fall a little bit.
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: Drop there, regress to the mean a little bit, but
• 38:58
  Speaker 7: your mean is not down where it's been. It feels
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: like it will be up higher. It's just a matter
• 39:03
  Speaker 7: of how much higher from last year. How about these stats?
• 39:07
  Speaker 7: Coker and TMAC. When Bryce throws to them, this is
• 39:10
  Speaker 7: per PFF. Yes, I was stat geeking out yesterday. When
• 39:13
  Speaker 7: Bryce throws to Coker and TMAC versus Zone Coverage... He
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: is 16 of 17 for 271 yards. And you saw
• 39:22
  Speaker 7: it the other day, Atlanta, when they were in zone,
• 39:24
  Speaker 7: like you could see t-mac and coker find that like
• 39:29
  Speaker 7: those spots those holes in the zone especially on the
• 39:31
  Speaker 7: outside and it was just they were and and then
• 39:35
  Speaker 7: with waller the coverage was tighter but bryce put it
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: exactly where it had to go um anyway.
• 39:41
  Speaker 8: Fun story i know you mentioned the the stat of
• 39:43
  Speaker 8: big time throws but just The visual also of some
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: of the throws.
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: You can see it.
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: Whether it be the week one throw to Coker, the
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: ball placement. I mean, there's so much to be happy
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: about right now with Bryce Young.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: You can see it.
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: You're like, dude, that's a special throw with him. I'll
• 40:01
  Speaker 7: give a shout-out to one other guy before we get
• 40:02
  Speaker 7: to Carolina Mike dropping an actual new song. We have
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: asked for this for months. The man is delivered, and
• 40:09
  Speaker 7: it's Panther-themed. Shout out to Mike Jack. He leads the
• 40:13
  Speaker 7: entire NFL in coverage snaps per reception allowed. He has
• 40:18
  Speaker 7: allowed one catch in two games, 69 coverage snaps.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: J.C.
• 40:23
  Speaker 7: Horn has allowed one every 21. He's given up three catches.
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: They have both been very good so far, have not
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: been attacked really at all. Fitty's doing the seatbelt over there.
• 40:35
  Speaker 7: Did you like Will Lee doing the seatbelt bone when
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: he got bailed out by a severe underthrow late in
• 40:40
  Speaker 7: the half.
• 40:41
  Speaker 9: The other day?
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: That was a bit shameless.
• 40:43
  Speaker 8: He got completely toasted, but the throw was so awful
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: that he still got seatbelted.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Did the seatbelt, yeah.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: I think they should be penalized for that. If I
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: was an official... I would penalize.
• 40:55
  Speaker 8: His Uber rating on the, on the drive. They're not
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: very high, but he's still, still bragged about what he
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: did fit.
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: There's if you, if you want that penalized, you definitely
• 41:03
  Speaker 7: can't be a fan of receiver wins, gets open, but
• 41:08
  Speaker 7: drops the ball. And here comes on the scene late,
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: the DB who is doing like the incompletion signs, the
• 41:15
  Speaker 7: seatbelt signs at all. There's no way you could like that.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: I don't like it.
• 41:19
  Speaker 12: Ashton Hampton did it, and I know Clemson came back
• 41:21
  Speaker 12: to win the game, but, Mac, he broke up a
• 41:24
  Speaker 12: pass down 14.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: And, I mean, he's going like.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Full Richard Sherman.
• 41:28
  Speaker 9: He was.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Maybe he knew, Fit.
• 41:29
  Speaker 10: I would just point to the scoreboard. If you taunt
• 41:33
  Speaker 10: while losing, double flag. And then Ashton would have came
• 41:37
  Speaker 10: back and found you at the end of the game
• 41:38
  Speaker 10: and said, hey, do you see it now? But I
• 41:43
  Speaker 10: agree with you.
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: I was kind of like, bro, the game is going
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: terribly for you other than that great play that you
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: made there. All right, let's get to Carolina Mike, Bone.
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: We have asked for it. We have wanted this to see.
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: Vashti and Sheeha Quick have explained they both have been
• 41:58
  Speaker 7: tired of hearing the same song from Carolina Mike everywhere. Well,
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: ladies and everybody else listening, Carolina Mike has a new song.
• 42:06
  Speaker 7: And I like the fact, Bone, that he notified you personally.
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: That's big. That's big for you. You know? Yeah, he's
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: a friend. He's a dear friend. All right, so let's
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: hear it. Carolina Mike's new ditty, everybody. What up, party people?
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: It's Victory Monday.
• 42:22
  Speaker 11: Congrats to the Carolina Panthers for their victory against the Falcons.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Let's go, y'all. Come on.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I say get.
• 42:29
  Speaker 11: Real hype when they hit the field. Just scored a touchdown,
• 42:32
  Speaker 11: you know the deal. Energy's right at the bank today.
• 42:35
  Speaker 11: Like the Queen City, we here to stay.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Keep pounding. Go Panthers.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: We're my top cats.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: Go Surfer.
• 42:48
  Speaker 11: Can't you hear that panther roar? Don't let us in.
• 42:51
  Speaker 11: We break the door. Get on your feet and make
• 42:54
  Speaker 11: some noise. I say get on your feet and make
• 42:57
  Speaker 11: some noise.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Keep pounding. Go Panthers. We're my top cats.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Go surfer.
• 43:07
  Speaker 11: Got to get right for the game today. Going to
• 43:10
  Speaker 11: hit the tailgate. Get out of my way. Party it
• 43:12
  Speaker 11: up with all my crew. Spend $ 150, 000. You know how
• 43:16
  Speaker 11: we do.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Keep pounding. Go Panthers. Where my top cap?
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: Go surfer.
• 43:26
  Speaker 12: All right.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: That's pretty strong.
• 43:28
  Speaker 11: Jackie Freeman, our sales manager, dancing to a little Carolina mic.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: I kind of like it. I kind of think that
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: was a pretty solid. It was going to be tough
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: for him to follow up such a ginormous class. He
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: still got $ 150, 000 in there. He did. He worked that
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: reference in there, didn't he?
• 43:52
  Speaker 8: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: Show after rough weekends, our state, UNC, and South Carolina
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: fans done with their coaches. We check in on those
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: fan bases. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.