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[HURDLE LIVE] Team USA Marathoners Susanna Sullivan, Jess McClain & Erika Kemp Dish On the Race Of a Lifetime, Running In Tokyo's Challenging Humidity & Putting It All Out There · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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  Speaker 1: I didn't have a good day, and like that's the
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  Speaker 1: reality of it. But I think it's really important to
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  Speaker 1: still like share those moments and not just.
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  Speaker 2: Like the highlights.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, good afternoon, good evening.
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  Speaker 4: Emily about a year popping in with a special episode
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  Speaker 4: of Hurdle Live from Tokyo here for the World Athletics Championships,
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  Speaker 4: and sat down with Team USA's three marathoners, all Brooks
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  Speaker 4: running athletes. We've got Erica Kemp, Susannah Sullivan, and Jess
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  Speaker 4: McLean who all told the starting line of one hell
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  Speaker 4: of a marathon on Sunday, September fourteenth. For contexts, as
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  Speaker 4: we talk about in today's episode, the temperatures out there
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  Speaker 4: are real feel of the High nine. These intense humidity,
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  Speaker 4: cusping one hundred percent crazy, crazy conditions, but truly remarkable
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  Speaker 4: to watch these women get out and do their thing.
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  Speaker 3: Susannah went for glory.
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  Speaker 4: She finished fourth in the World Championship a marathon. For
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  Speaker 4: a better part of the race, she was actually leading
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  Speaker 4: the pack for a considerable amount alongside Jess McLean. Erica
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  Speaker 4: ultimately had a tougher day, finishing fifty second their times respectively.
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  Speaker 4: Susannah into twenty eight seventeen, Jess in two twenty nine
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  Speaker 4: twenty and Erica in two fifty thirty five. In today's conversation,
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  Speaker 4: we talk about it all. We talked about the prep,
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  Speaker 4: we talk about the day, We talk about the highs
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  Speaker 4: and the lows, the lessons, learned what it was like
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  Speaker 4: immediately following the race, how they celebrated, and of course
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  Speaker 4: what's next.
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  Speaker 3: So's a stillar opportunity.
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  Speaker 4: To sit down with these ladies at the Brooks Hyperion
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  Speaker 4: House here as a marathoner myself a massive fan of
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  Speaker 4: the sport, you couldn't have asked for a better opportunity.
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  Speaker 4: So to the Brooks team, thanks for welcoming me in.
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  Speaker 4: Each of these women have really gotten to this point
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  Speaker 4: with their own roadmap, on their own terms, writing their
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  Speaker 4: own pages in the record books in the process. And wow,
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  Speaker 4: I am in awe with that. Keeping this intro short
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  Speaker 4: in the show notes. With that, let's get to it.
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  Speaker 4: Let's get to a hurdling.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, I'm Emily.
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  Speaker 4: I am so happy to be here in Tokyo with
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  Speaker 4: the lovely ladies of Team USA, our marathoners here at
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  Speaker 4: the Brooks Hyperion House.
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  Speaker 3: Let's give it up for them.
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  Speaker 4: We have the Erica Kemp to my right, Jess McLain
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  Speaker 4: and Susanna Sullivan. All right, we love to get get
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  Speaker 4: off with a level set. It's been a little over
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  Speaker 4: twenty four hours. So Erica, how are you doing really?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing okay. I'm doing a lot better than last night.
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  Speaker 1: Stairs are not great and there are quite a few
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  Speaker 1: stairs getting on and off the train. So it's been
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  Speaker 1: a journey through Tokyo this morning. But I'm alive.
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  Speaker 3: I'm alive. Alive is a good place to start. Jess,
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  Speaker 3: how are you doing? Really?
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  Speaker 5: I'm doing great.
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  Speaker 6: I feel like you know, legs Arowy interesting coming back
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  Speaker 6: from a marathon. I usually have a tonail situation post marathon,
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  Speaker 6: and I think with the humidity and stuff out there
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  Speaker 6: like yesterday, that was my biggest thing I've been dealing with.
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  Speaker 6: But other than that, I'm like just stoked to be here.
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  Speaker 6: Like I feel like I've been soaking in the Japan experience.
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  Speaker 6: But now I can just hang with the Brooks vam
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  Speaker 6: and like keep the party going.
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  Speaker 5: So stoked. Head to the track too tonight.
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  Speaker 3: So so excited, Susannah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'm still riding the high from yesterday. I
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  Speaker 2: feel good.
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  Speaker 7: My quads are sore, but aside from that, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: oh pretty good.
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  Speaker 6: Did Susanna swim today though, yes, Oh my gosh. She
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  Speaker 6: was like, yeah, I actually went in the slow lane
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  Speaker 6: at the pool though, That's what she said just today,
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  Speaker 6: because who takes a rest day after running a marathon.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure it was good for the purposes of active recovery.
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  Speaker 5: Though. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: No, this is maybe the best I've ever felt the
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  Speaker 7: day after a marathon, which is encouraging. But we drank
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  Speaker 7: crushed stevel bottles of water and the like underneath the
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  Speaker 7: stadium yesterday, but before we got out.
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  Speaker 2: Into the world stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Well, speaking of crushing a lot of water.
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  Speaker 4: You crushed a lot of miles twenty six point two
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  Speaker 4: through Tokyo. I want to hear and started us off
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  Speaker 4: today from all of you about maybe the highlight for
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  Speaker 4: you on the course and the low light for you
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  Speaker 4: on the course. Jess, give me your highlight of the
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  Speaker 4: course yesterday. Oh gosh, I have so many.
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  Speaker 6: I think one of the highlights was definitely rolling to
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  Speaker 6: the front with Susannah.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think.
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  Speaker 6: I've I've seen myself more as like a chaser in
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  Speaker 6: the marathons, like I've never like visualized or like seen
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  Speaker 6: myself up front being like I don't know, like a
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  Speaker 6: leader of the race. So I think once Susannah, I
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  Speaker 6: think you were up at the front early on here
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  Speaker 6: and there, and then some of the African athletes were
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  Speaker 6: chatting and trying to like slow the pace down, and
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  Speaker 6: we could just looked at each other like this is
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  Speaker 6: so annoying, like the pace is kind of oscillating, and
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  Speaker 6: then She's like, I'm coming out, and then we just
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  Speaker 6: like swooped to the outside and went to the front together,
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  Speaker 6: and I think that was like that was my highlight,
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  Speaker 6: was running with Susannah and then seeing her going into
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  Speaker 6: the hairpinterns just looking so good.
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  Speaker 5: And just throwing her thumbs up.
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  Speaker 6: Low lights, Man, I you know, I knew it was
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  Speaker 6: gonna get really hard at some point. I think that's
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  Speaker 6: been most of my training, is like what's going to
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  Speaker 6: happen when you're you hit the point where it's like
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  Speaker 6: it's just so hard. And that happened for me maybe
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  Speaker 6: around like thirty thirty to thirty five K and I
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  Speaker 6: just kind of like use the momentum of the pack
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  Speaker 6: that caught me and some of the athletes that were
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  Speaker 6: in the mix. So not really a low light, but
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  Speaker 6: just kind of the point of the race where it's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 6: it's getting tough.
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  Speaker 5: This is where this is what we've been thinking about
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  Speaker 5: the whole block and just visualizing getting through.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, speaking of that, when when we
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  Speaker 4: sat down before the marathon here in Tokyo, you told
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  Speaker 4: me that success for you would be trusting your training.
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  Speaker 4: You said, if I fall a little bit short because
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  Speaker 4: I shot my shot, that's fine.
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  Speaker 3: Is that what you felt like? What happened yesterday?
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  Speaker 5: I think so? I think I really wanted top five.
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  Speaker 6: I think, you know, being top seven, top eight at
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  Speaker 6: a world major that gave me the confidence that I
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  Speaker 6: can like hang. But I was like, man, I really
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  Speaker 6: want to do something big on the world stage. But
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, you know what, leading with Susannah for so long,
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  Speaker 6: being in second, like the Americans leading the World Championships.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, people probably thought we were crazy and like, oh,
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  Speaker 6: they're just gonna blow up, But.
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  Speaker 5: Like, you have to put yourself in it, Like the
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  Speaker 5: Americans aren't in a.
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  Speaker 6: Place if you don't take a shot like that, and
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  Speaker 6: it's like what happens if it sticks and we're chipping
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  Speaker 6: away at it? Like two women in the top eight.
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  Speaker 6: Clayton got night today. That's amazing. So yeah, I think
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  Speaker 6: I shot my shot and fell a little bit short,
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  Speaker 6: but I'm super stoked.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, shot my shot and fell a little bit short.
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  Speaker 4: Speaking of going in to a race and giving it
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  Speaker 4: all you've got, Erica, when I sat down with you,
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  Speaker 4: you said, when the gun goes off, the pages are blank.
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  Speaker 4: The story of the race hasn't been written yet. What's
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  Speaker 4: the story of yesterday's race for you?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't have written that. I probably would have written
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  Speaker 1: it a little different in hindsight, but yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you just never know how you're gonna feel I have,
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  Speaker 1: Like definitely we did everything we could to like prepare
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  Speaker 1: for the conditions to prepare for this race, like mentally physically,
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  Speaker 1: So it's like it was a weird experience knowing like
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  Speaker 1: you did everything you possibly could to like be ready
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  Speaker 1: for the moment, and then you get on the start line,
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  Speaker 1: you like try to meet the moment, and then everything
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  Speaker 1: kind of goes sideways a lot, like sooner than you anticipated.
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  Speaker 1: The way the course was looped was actually like really great,
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  Speaker 1: even though like it got really hard for me, like
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  Speaker 1: way earlier than I would have anticipated. I got to
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  Speaker 1: see Jess in Susannah absolutely like flying past me, like
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  Speaker 1: on the backside, which is always my favorite type of
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  Speaker 1: course when you're going out and the other runners are
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  Speaker 1: coming back because you can just like share those moments
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  Speaker 1: even though you're at different stages in the race.
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  Speaker 2: So that was really great.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, even though it was like taking me a
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  Speaker 1: long time to finish, I was just like so committed
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  Speaker 1: to doing it for myself, for everyone cheering at home,
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  Speaker 1: and like the last time I saw these two, I
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  Speaker 1: was like I need to finish because I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: see them on the podium like as far as I know,
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  Speaker 1: last time I checked in there like winning and I
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  Speaker 1: had like full confidence that they would probably do it.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it was it was up and down.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, up and down, understandably so, and again to reiterate
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  Speaker 4: such a wildly difficult day out there, I think at
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  Speaker 4: the end of the day, the humidity was above ninety
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  Speaker 4: five percent during parts of this race, which is not
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  Speaker 4: what we're dealing with for the most part at home.
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  Speaker 4: And we'll talk a little bit about some of the
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  Speaker 4: preparations that you did in order to gear up for
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  Speaker 4: that year in Tokyo. But Erica, what I find so
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  Speaker 4: admirable about your performance yesterday is that you stayed in
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  Speaker 4: it despite it feeling very challenging and maybe for it
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  Speaker 4: not to go as you had hoped. In those moments
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  Speaker 4: where you truly felt like extreme frustration, Where did your
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  Speaker 4: mind go and how did you manage to keep clipping
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  Speaker 4: forward with a little bit more positive mindset?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, for sure, one of the first thoughts
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  Speaker 1: was my teammates up front. I know, they were like
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  Speaker 1: putting everything they had into every step and I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: do anything less than that. But also just thinking about
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  Speaker 1: everyone that tuned in back home like they had a
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  Speaker 1: watch party at a local brewery where I train, and
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  Speaker 1: like just like so so much support out on the course.
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  Speaker 2: Just there are so many people who showed up. It's
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  Speaker 2: like the least I can do is show up as
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  Speaker 2: with everything I have.
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  Speaker 1: And even though especially in the second half of the race,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have much, it's like I can still give
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  Speaker 1: it everything I have, so just one step out of time.
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  Speaker 1: And like I said in a couple like pre race
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  Speaker 1: interviews or like what success and it's like success is
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  Speaker 1: finishing on empty and unfortunately I did. It didn't quite
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  Speaker 1: get me the result I was looking for, but it
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  Speaker 1: was just huge to know that there was nothing more
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  Speaker 1: that I could do. And even though it's like not
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  Speaker 1: the best result on paper, I feel like it was
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  Speaker 1: really important for me to conquer that like pride of
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  Speaker 1: it of like, oh, like I only want to have
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  Speaker 1: like these highlights in my record. It's like, no, it
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  Speaker 1: was a pretty bad day and there's a permanent record
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  Speaker 1: of it. Anyone can google it. There's plenty of photos
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  Speaker 1: and videos out there. But like that's also just real,
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  Speaker 1: like I didn't have a good day and like that's
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  Speaker 1: the reality of it. But I think it's really important
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  Speaker 1: to still like share those moments and not just like
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  Speaker 1: the highlights. And that's been the response I've gotten so far,
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  Speaker 1: especially like in my DMS and in my comments, is like,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for not like trying to paint over it
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  Speaker 1: and pretend it didn't happen, because like we've all had
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  Speaker 1: days like that, hopefully not a lot. You know, I'd
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  Speaker 1: like that to be my most bad day ever, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was just really important to see it
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  Speaker 1: all the way through, even if it wasn't like the
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  Speaker 1: prettiest thing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I although maybe in your words it's not
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  Speaker 4: the prettiest thing, it is to the point of your
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  Speaker 4: comments in your DMS, such a beautiful example of how
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  Speaker 4: you can turn this pain into continuing along with your purpose.
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  Speaker 4: We've all heard of this rule of thirds, which is
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  Speaker 4: the bad part of your training is a third, the
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  Speaker 4: okay part of your training is a third, and the
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  Speaker 4: good part of your training.
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  Speaker 3: Is a third at best.
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  Speaker 4: And so unfortunately, sometimes you're going to go out there
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  Speaker 4: and the bad part is going to be when you
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  Speaker 4: don't hope for it to be. Speaking of plugging away, Susanne,
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  Speaker 4: or early on you decided we're not oscillating on this pace.
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  Speaker 4: What was the mindset on that, and is that what
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  Speaker 4: you anticipated that you would do?
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  Speaker 7: Not really, but I'm sure that everybody finds that to
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  Speaker 7: be a surprise. I know that a lot of people
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  Speaker 7: are like, yeah, she's just gonna go to the lead.
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  Speaker 7: I had actually spoken with my coach the day before
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  Speaker 7: about not doing that. We had we suspected that there
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  Speaker 7: might be like a flyer or two where you know,
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  Speaker 7: somebody just went out at some pace that was just unsustainable,
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  Speaker 7: and he said, just like, don't do that, and just
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  Speaker 7: you know, stay in the lead back and you know,
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  Speaker 7: understand that you're gonna have to be patient for Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: we thought maybe half halfway, maybe a little further, but
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  Speaker 7: he also said, like you're gonna have to trust your
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  Speaker 7: instincts and trust your training and like, you know what
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  Speaker 7: it's supposed to feel like. And one of the nice
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  Speaker 7: things about training in Virginia is that, like it's always humid,
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  Speaker 7: and it's actually been unseasonably cool and pleasant the last
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  Speaker 7: couple of weeks, which was Eric and I were texting
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  Speaker 7: about like the East Coast weather, like the last couple
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  Speaker 7: of weeks, like come on, like it's gonna so yeah,
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  Speaker 7: but I did some heat training stuff, especially this past week,
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  Speaker 7: was going and getting in the hot job, and so
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  Speaker 7: when I was out there on the course, I was
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  Speaker 7: like telling myself, this is not as bad as making
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  Speaker 7: the hot job, and yeah, so it like it felt
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  Speaker 7: really comfortable and I felt well, like, you know, I
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  Speaker 7: had done long runs that felt a lot, a lot
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  Speaker 7: harder than what we were doing early on, and I
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  Speaker 7: was like, okay, like I've been here before, I know
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  Speaker 7: what to do. And I mean, yeah, I was a
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  Speaker 7: little nervous about, you know, being out in front, but
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  Speaker 7: it felt right.
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  Speaker 2: So I've tried to trust that it was okay.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, trying to trust.
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  Speaker 4: And that's such a through line when it comes to
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  Speaker 4: marathon and right because so often you were coming back
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  Speaker 4: and going into that rate of perceived exertion, like how
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  Speaker 4: do I feel in this moment? Do I have anything
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  Speaker 4: else to give? I really appreciate what Jess said about
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  Speaker 4: being someone who was willing to take the lead in
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  Speaker 4: going to take the lead, in going to push that pace.
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  Speaker 4: Were you at an RPE that was perhaps higher than
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  Speaker 4: you were used to, and how did you get comfortable
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  Speaker 4: living in that state of discomfort?
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  Speaker 5: It was really weird.
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  Speaker 6: I felt like it was just it was almost like
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  Speaker 6: my body just took over and like put it into
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  Speaker 6: like the next drive and just did it. Like I
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  Speaker 6: didn't really think too much about it, and I think
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  Speaker 6: it's taken a long time to get to a point
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  Speaker 6: where I'm not like in my head going back and
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  Speaker 6: forth about you know, decision making in a race like that.
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  Speaker 6: It just felt very instinctual to like chat with Susannah
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  Speaker 6: for a minute and then just go together. And she
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  Speaker 6: looked like running next to her, I was like, oh, damn,
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  Speaker 6: she looks so she's barely breathing. She's like her mouth's
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  Speaker 6: not even open. I was like, she's yeah, she just
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  Speaker 6: looks so good. And I knew that, you know, likely
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  Speaker 6: as the race went on, she might pull away a
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  Speaker 6: little bit and then yeah. I think the no man's
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  Speaker 6: land used to scare me a lot, like ending up alone. Uh,
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  Speaker 6: But honestly, I think, you know, the tough part about
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  Speaker 6: doing some training on your own is that you're left
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  Speaker 6: to your own devices, and you're doing it solo here
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  Speaker 6: and there.
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  Speaker 5: I do have a great group.
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  Speaker 6: At home, but I've done a lot of runs solo too,
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  Speaker 6: so I've gotten used to like living in my own head,
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  Speaker 6: being my own best friend.
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  Speaker 5: I did not used to be that.
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  Speaker 6: So it's like getting the confidence to be, you know,
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  Speaker 6: just confident in making those decisions and then living with it.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, if if the pack swallowed me up,
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  Speaker 6: which I assumed, you know, the hairpin turns gave us
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  Speaker 6: the visibility.
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  Speaker 5: To the pack, you know and those behind us, which
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  Speaker 5: was good.
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  Speaker 6: And then you know, there was a point where I
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  Speaker 6: was like, Susannah, they're coming, you know, swallowed me up.
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  Speaker 6: She still looked great, But it was in that moment
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  Speaker 6: where I was like, okay, you know, if the African
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  Speaker 6: athletes catch you, try to go with them.
• 16:19
  Speaker 5: That was tough, they were moving.
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: But then there were a few athletes kind off that
• 16:22
  Speaker 6: pack that I kind of use this momentum. I was
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: running with the Japanese athletes, so to me, it literally
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: sounded like a world major the whole time because they
• 16:29
  Speaker 6: were so loud. As the Japanese came by and my family,
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: I guess they were like, yeah, it was just very
• 16:35
  Speaker 6: quiet and polite until you know, like people would run
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: by and then they'd be quiet on the streets and
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: I'm like, I didn't hear that at all because I
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: was running with one of their athletes, which.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: Was great, but no, I felt I didn't have a
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: sense of panic at all.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: There were a few miles that were really tough where
• 16:50
  Speaker 6: I was like, just get to the next station.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: I was working the whole time.
• 16:53
  Speaker 6: I was putting stuff on my head, stuffing my bra
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: with ice, taking water, taking like sponges, everything I could do.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: So I was pretty busy, Like I was.
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: Just thinking the whole time, focusing on this fueling stations
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: and honestly water, Like at some point, water is all
• 17:08
  Speaker 6: I wanted, and I was just taking that in And
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: I feel like I was revived pretty much every eight station.
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: That helped a lot, But yeah, you never know what
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: the next mile will bring.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: So I kind of repeat that to myself.
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: Two things to double click on.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: The first thing that sentiment of I got to a
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: place where I was better at being my own best.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Friend and learning how to handle it on my own.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Can you talk a little bit about what that process
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: developing that mentality was like for you and how you've
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: been able to get more comfortable toughing it out solo.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: Gosh, it's not like a tangible like how to guide up.
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: I wish it was that easy. I Yeah, racing used
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: to be really tough for me. It used to be
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: like I was a workout hero. You know, workouts are fine,
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: and then racing, for some reason, I just felt like
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: so vulnerable and like like it was something that I
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: was almost scared and fearful to do. And maybe it
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: was just because I was in over my head or
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: my body wasn't doing what it was supposed to do
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: for me, so I wasn't confident. But now it's like
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: I've taken the last you know, during COVID the last
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: three years to just like do a lot of what
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: not only makes me confident, but just like makes my
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: body feel good and I don't worry that it's not enough.
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: I think I was always kind of playing the comparison
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: game a little bit, and it's hard. Like you have
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: Strava out there, you have Instagram, like you know what
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: people are doing, Like it's easy to see what you know,
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: workouts people are crushing and long runs. But I've just
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: learned to stick to my guns and trust the training
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: and that I need.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: What I need.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: And I think it just takes a lot of time,
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: Like people lean on different modalities of you know, whether
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: it's therapy or whatever it is to like get to
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: the nitty gritties of what's going on. But for me,
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: it's just been like perspective, taking a beat, getting my
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: body healthy, and then just.
• 18:50
  Speaker 5: Like really enjoying it, like having fun.
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think this experience has just been like
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: I've been visualizing this, all of this for so long,
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: and I'm like, I'm not going to get to Tokyo,
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: not how fun like I'm gonna I'm gonna embrace it.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: And I feel like being here with them is like
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: the coolest thing ever. Did I like like visualize that
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: in my head No, which made it even better have
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: an experience.
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: So so, yeah, Erica, you're not in.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Your head a lot.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: And the way that she's talking actually reminds me of
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: something that you said to me in the studio, which
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: was how your best races happen when you find this
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: flow state, right, and that is something that you've had
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: to kind of come to terms with and understand over
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: the last year or so. Can you explain what flow
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: state looks like for you and maybe how you get
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: to that place when you're running?
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's just that like feeling
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: that like Susanna and Jess were describing when they like
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: went to make their move or take the lead, like
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: it feels right, Like everything you're doing in that moment
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: feels right. It feels like this is what you trained
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: for and it's all paying off. Like your fit, you're strong,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: like you're not your body's not stressed. It's just moving
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: exactly the way you want it to. You also like
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: have this like peace that like what you're doing in
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: this moment is like the right thing to do. And
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: that's like such a special place to find in a race,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: and it's something we definitely like try to practice like
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: in workouts, especially like the challenging ones, whether it's just
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: really long long run or just really tough conditions, like
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: trying to find it. And I did almost find it yesterday,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: which was like you felt it a little bit a
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: little bit because the start was so cool, like starting
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: in the stadium, Like at first, the thought of doing
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: a thousand meters on the track before a marathon sounded
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: so silly, but then when you're actually like in the
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: stadium and you get to like run a thousand meters
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: on the track, it's actually.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Like very cool.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: And then you go out and at first I was
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: like it didn't feel that hot in the sense that
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: like the sun wasn't like bearing down on you. So
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, like it's not going
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: to be that bad, Like I can do this. And
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: then we clicked off a few two like spicy splits
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: for me, and I knew like around like seven or
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: eight miles, I was like, oh, I think I've like
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: crossed that line like a little too early. And at
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: that point it was like so warm, it's like really
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: hard to like pull it back. So working on that
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: secondary flow state alternative when you lose it, but yeah,
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: it's just something you just like work on every day.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So what I'm hearing you say is Susanna's the
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: problem exactly exactly. The other thing that I wanted to
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: double click on is you mentioned fueling. Obviously a huge
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: component of yesterday's race. Susanna, talk to us a little
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: bit about what your fueling was like yesterday during the
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: twenty six point.
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: Two Yeah, like Jess said, I feel like the stations,
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: I'm was like constantly working. I was constantly thinking about
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: like what was happening next at the end, like I
• 22:01
  Speaker 7: think the last two So there were our personal stations,
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: which were you know, we had put out bottles with
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: all sorts of you know, I.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Had a lot of gatorade.
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: I And earlier this summer we did some sweatesting with
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: Brooks and I learned that I'm apparently a very salty sweater,
• 22:18
  Speaker 7: which I I didn't realize because I've never been somebody
• 22:21
  Speaker 7: to have like a salt crust on my shirt or
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: anything at the end of her run. But that was
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: helpful information because over the summer we were just trying
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: to take in saltier you know options, and you know,
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: tried out a couple of things and tried to figure
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: out like what flavors I liked, and I ended up
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: just having gatorade with salt in it because that's what
• 22:43
  Speaker 7: tasted good. But near the end in the general water
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: stations they had Maccari sweat, which is like Japanese gatorade.
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: And there were two stops where I took three cups
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: in the span of like, you know, ten meters. I
• 22:58
  Speaker 7: probably looked like a Luna to I, like hand over
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: fist grabbing cups, but yeah, I really needed it.
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: At the end, it was it was getting spicy, so you.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Can never I'll never forget the imagery of Molly's cidle
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: at the Olympics, like ripping theme in the ice bag
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: and like stuffing it all over herself. With the things
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: that were available to all of you along the course.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: Is that anything you practiced with prior.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: To this, I think obviously our personal feeling. For sure.
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: We worked with Bridge at Brooks and then USATF to
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: kind of like come up with different cooling methods along
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: the course. I think they learned a lot from Clayton's
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: experience in Paris last year, and he's just so dialed in.
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: With all of that.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: But we had, honestly, my favorite things out there were
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: like the personal towels with ice wrapped in it because
• 23:48
  Speaker 6: they just stayed cold. You can keep the ice in there.
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: And I held a towel like pretty much the whole race,
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: and I was just patting myself and keeping myself cool.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: We had these hats.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I'm sure people, you don't think it's your most attractive
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: look of all time.
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: Oh oh man, you know it's worth it's worth it
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: to stay cool.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: But I think they were okay.
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: Honestly, I spent so much time my hair was a
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: problem and just getting it on and off. It was
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: just too much. So at some point I was like,
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: stick to the ice. We're lucky as women to have
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: sports bras. Stuff it in there, keep it up, keep
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: it close to the chest. So I was pretty much
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: doing that and then keeping like ice in my mouth,
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: ice in my hands, just ice everywhere. And the ice
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: bags were great actually because you could run with them
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: for a little bit, tear it open when you needed it.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I would say like the biggest thing was
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: being able to work with Brooks and like months out
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: at our little training camps that we've done in the lab,
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: Brooks hook me up with ASU back home to do some.
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: Humidity chamber sessions, which.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, talk to us a little bit about what that
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: looked like. I totally underestimated it. I showed up to
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: my first session with is like a water bottle was
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: I didn't even bring a fuel like fueling or like anything,
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: and I I was trying.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: To play it so cool, but it was so hard.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: Like I think it was an eighty minute run seventy
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: percent sixty five percent humidity the first time, and it
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: was so so hard, And I think it was just
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: more of like getting used to the discomfort.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: Like for me, it's.
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: Humidity is just uncomfortable. I'm used to I'll take ninety
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: degree dry heat any day, but that was tough. So
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: I just did four sessions, increasing humidity by like five
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: percent to eight percent every time, got up to like eighty.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: Percent eighty four percent.
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: But honestly, it was just a lot of like, Okay,
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: this is what it feels like to be this uncomfortable
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: and just being okay with that.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: So yeah, that was that was huge for me. That
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: helped a lot.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: And of note here, like you're saying that you maxed
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: out at like eighty maybe you touched eighty five, Like
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: that's not even the cusp of what we were dealing
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: with yesterday here. So I know that it may not
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: be easy necessarily to come to this place where we
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: have grace for things not going exactly how we'd hoped.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: But I would say that considering the conditions, regardless of
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: where you fare in the pack, to finish how you
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: finished yesterday is absolutely remarkable and it's truly superhuman, Like
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: truly superhuman.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: I want you.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Touched briefly on the crowds and I think that's like
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: something kind of funny to talk about you had a
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: warped experience running with someone from this country for a bit.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: I myself ran the Tokyo Marathon last year, and it
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: was quite interesting, like the very different vibes of being
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: a New Yorker and having the New York Marathon versus
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: the Tokyo Marathon. What was interacting with the crowds like
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: for you yesterday, Erica.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: It was I had heard similar things, just like comparing
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: like you know, a New York or a Boston to
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: typically Tokyo. But I think it was way better than
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I expected. It was way louder. I mean, people were yelling.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: They were yelling. It was much louder than like a
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: golf clap, and it I mean it felt like another
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: road race. Like they really really brought the energy yesterday,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: which was like desperately needed. It was so tough out there,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: and also just to have that many supporters out on
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: the course and that many people watching and cheering when
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: it was like obviously very tough to run, but even
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: just standing out there for a few minutes, I'm sure
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: it was like very difficult on the spectators. So it
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: was like they were also out there like giving a
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: great effort, and it took me quite a while to finish,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and there were still so many people out there cheering,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: So like, I cannot thank the Tokyo crowds enough for
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: hanging out there for three hours.
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: The compassion that you have for the spectators is unnecessary.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, we were having a good time.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: It was it hot, Yes, Was it anything like what
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: you guys were dealing with?
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: How are the crowds for you, Susanna, especially at the
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: front of the path.
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was exciting when I headed near the palace.
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: Initially it was really quiet and there was that golf
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: clap and that was just kind of an interesting, that
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: cultural moment. But then after I don't know, probably about
• 27:57
  Speaker 7: ten miles in it just it it was loud enough
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: that I realized that I wasn't going to be able
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: to rely on the crowds to kind of figure out
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: if people were approaching, because it was just loud enough
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: that it was like I'm having a hard time distinguishing
• 28:12
  Speaker 7: between like this is me and then there's like a
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: little bit of quiet and then I hear a roar
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: behind me.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it was pretty consistent.
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: After about ten miles, at some point it was clear
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: that you know, through the power of Google or whatever,
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: somebody had figured out that I was a teacher, and
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: that was spreading through certain pockets, and so when I
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: would come by, i'd hear teacher, teacher, teachers, So that
• 28:37
  Speaker 7: was kind of fun.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So when you take a step back and look
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: at the race yesterday as a whole, is there anything
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: or any one point that you think, reflecting on it,
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: that maybe you would have handled a little bit differently.
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: I think when the Julia who's there, Yeah, right, when
• 29:00
  Speaker 7: when she.
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: Passed me, I think.
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: I had a moment where I, you know, I had
• 29:05
  Speaker 7: to wonder as I was anticipating for miles, Okay, they're
• 29:08
  Speaker 7: gonna come, They're gonna catch you, and you need to, like,
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: you need to have a plan. You need to be
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: level headed about how you're gonna respond to it. Are
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: you gonna go with it or are you gonna like
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: assess depending on like how quickly they blow past you,
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: or are you just gonna like stay here because you
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: know that at this effort you can make it to
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: the finish. And so I was kind of wrestling with that,
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: and when Julia passed, I kind of latched onto her
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: for a bit and then was like, no, you know,
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: you like run your ace like you can. You can
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: hold on to this place, you can keep running this space.
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: And so looking back at that, like, you just wonder,
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: you know what if? Yeah, you just wonder what if?
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: So the question is, then what do you take from that?
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Like having experienced that out there and wondering what if?
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: I think what I heard you say was this really
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: resounding moment of run your own race. Is that something
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: that's come to the forefront for you in marathon's past,
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: and do you think that's something that you're gonna take
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: with you as you move forward?
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: It has because I think that there were probably plenty
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: of people out on the course. I mean, I know
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: that there are people out on the course because they've
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: you know, I've gotten texts and messages since saying like
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: we were wondering what in the world she doing? And
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: I knew that I knew what I was doing. And
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: so it's nice when it actually works out, because you know,
• 30:33
  Speaker 7: there were people saying we were wondering what was she thinking?
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: And then we were like, oh wow, that was that
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: was neat And so you know, when it works, it
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: gives you a lot of confidence that like okay, like
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: six to your guns. Do what you do, what you
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: train for, like trust your instincts. When it doesn't, that's
• 30:53
  Speaker 7: you know, then you have to live with all the
• 30:56
  Speaker 7: doubts until the next marathon. And we don't get to
• 30:59
  Speaker 7: run many of these years or so I'm glad it
• 31:01
  Speaker 7: worked out and I'm excited for for the next one.
• 31:05
  Speaker 7: The next one is going to be fairly soon. I'm
• 31:08
  Speaker 7: running New York City Marathon, and so I think that,
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: I mean, I was all in on on World Champs.
• 31:13
  Speaker 7: I was not thinking about New York City in the
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: last thinking about anything except for the finish line the
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: last you know, ten k or so. But I hope
• 31:21
  Speaker 7: that I can line up at New York knowing that,
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: like I want to walk away with no regrets. And
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: I'm super super excited about how yesterday went. And my
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: coach said yesterday after the race, like if I had
• 31:31
  Speaker 7: told you yesterday, so you know, twenty four hours before
• 31:34
  Speaker 7: the race that you were gonna be four, you would
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: have been like stoked. And so he was like, we're not
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: going to wonder. We're not gonna like sit around and
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: stew about, like you know what if you've made a
• 31:44
  Speaker 7: different decision, and I think that that's that's good advice.
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: That said, seven weeks from today, I'll be lining up
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: in New York, and I think that I'll remember how
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: I'm feeling today and wondering what if. So I don't
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: want to I don't want to walk away from New
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: York one.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, shouldaw what Akuda is over here?
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: I was talking to Garrett from the Brooks team before
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: we started, and the realization and the reality of everything
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: is that, like I said earlier, every race isn't going
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: to be like the race, and each of you over
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: the last couple of years have had remarkable, outstanding, career
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: changing performances. So when you take a step back and
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: you think of it from that lens and you look
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: at it from that perspective, it's like, Okay, today, maybe
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: we sit here and some might say, well, that was
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: Susanna's race, but then a year ago, two years ago
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Boston they were like, that's just as race, and then Houston,
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: that's Erica's race. Right, So when you take that step
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: back and you say, wow, look at what I'm capable of,
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: it kind of makes these moments again that don't go
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: as you'd hoped to one hundred percent feel a little
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: bit better. With that said, finding grace and moments that
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: don't go as you'd hoped isn't exactly the easiest thing, Erica,
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: What is for you the through line of how we
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: move forward from here? Because I know that, how does
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: the muscle strengthen you give it something to push up against?
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: How does your will strengthen you give it something to
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: push up against? Yesterday was a massive rep for your will.
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: So when you think about moving forward, what comes to mind?
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I think, I mean that was the third marathon I finished.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: So the inexperience around of applause.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: For the third marathon being at the World Championships.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when I like take a step back, my marathon
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: choices have been interesting and I haven't really given myself
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: like too many softballs. Like the Houston course was like
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: not particularly difficult, but it was like twenty degrees and
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: super windy in a day that a lot of people
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: that were in that race said, like was not a
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: PB day because it was below freezing and we had
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: this big headwind. And I was unbothered supposedly, So I
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: definitely am not bothered by the cold. But between like
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: the extreme cold now the extreme heat, and then Boston.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I just I would recommend someday. I feel like I've
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: still just have so so much to learn. But I've
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: learned a lot from each marathon, but they've all been
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: so different. I think, I mean, I don't have the
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: answer right this second, but I need to figure out
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: what I've learned from each and put them all together
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: into something I can use on any course, on any day,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: in any marathon, because right now, like I learned a
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: lot about myself in every single race I've done, but
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: they've all been so different. It's like I don't know,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to apply like this to that
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: because it either doesn't matter or it's so different. But
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: like you said, yesterday was like a huge win mentally.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: I was talking to Does about it last night. Just
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: it's really really easy to kind of get sucked into
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: that like dnfing cycle, and I don't want to be
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: that person.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: I like can't be that person.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: It doesn't jive with the athlete I want to be,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: and like the future I see for myself. You know,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: it's a bump in the road, but I think I
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: conquered that and I think that'll be huge going forward.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: So you know, the mind's there, and you just need
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: the mind and body there on the same day at
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: the same time. And I think that's what I'm taking
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: away from it.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's absolutely beautiful.
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: You touched on something that is very helpful and a
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: part of the process for money, which is the post
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: race personal debrief, the maybe sitting down, writing down, unpacking
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: with your coach, whatever that may include. Jess, what does
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: the post race debrief usually look like for you?
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: Uh, A lot different than used to.
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: My coach is super awesome and pretty chill, Like we
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: just exchange a few celebratory texts back and forth post race.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: I think I used to be not the best at
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: like taking a beat and like celebrating.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Not just like not every race goes well, but.
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: Like the block, like you've dedicated three to four months
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: of like such hard training dedication. We're like training on
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: a treadmill in a box to get humidity.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: We're like in the crappiest weather, Like.
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: It's you put so much into this, So I think,
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: no matter what, you have to take a beat and
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: just be like damn, I like I did that.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: But there's always learning, you know, lessons from each race.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: I'm sure, I'll take you know, the eleven and a
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: half hour flight home and like noodle on it.
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: But for right now, I'm like, I'm I'm kind of just.
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: Like post race cheer my teammates on mode and not
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: really thinking too much about it. But I think a
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: lot of reflection kind of comes when I'm like starting
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: to build back up again, Like I'll I'll think about
• 36:57
  Speaker 6: this whole experience, like when I'm finally doing easy jogs
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: in a few weeks getting.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: Back into it.
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: But no, I think I'm just having so much fun
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: at this point in my career that it's like I
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: no matter if it went great or it wasn't the
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: best day, I take just a beat and then close
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: the chapter.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: And move on easy jogs in a few weeks maybe three.
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: But but no, with what Eric has said, I think
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: you're gonna take so much like I take so much
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: confidence from the races where uh, it wasn't perfect and
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: I wasn't in that flow state, Like I had a
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: few races where I just especially my first marathon, I
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: think about that race gives me so much confidence because
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: everything went wrong and I You're going to be so
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: much stronger for today, Like finishing and doing it on
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: the stage like that is insane, and I both of
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: these guys, it's like.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: We're just gonna keep trekking along Susanna.
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: It's lining up in seven weeks and we'll be cheering
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: for her there and then we've got teammates run in Chicago.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: So Hamster wheel keeps going, Hamster.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Will keeps going.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: I love what Erica mentioned also about having that opportunity
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: to sync with Dez, another Brooks athlete, on the experience
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: and kind of processing everything. What has it been like
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: for the three of you to have des in your corner,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: someone that has seriously competed on the world stage many
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: times before.
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: I'll speak to Dez because she man, she's checked in
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: on me since I was a beast, Like my first
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: go at all this and you know, my career the
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: first time I went pro was in my mind pretty atrocious,
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: like I just could not stay healthy and it was
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: really hard for me.
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: And she always took a point there, like the time out.
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: Of her day, you know, while we were at altitude,
• 38:40
  Speaker 6: or she would just check in, send me a DM.
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: We weren't like texting buddies at that point, we weren't
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: on texting terms yet but then you know, I kind
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: of fell off the face of the earth and then
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: started running again, and she's she's still reached out. And
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: then Orlando is always a race where I like, I
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: always think of Does because there was like one hairpin
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: turn on that course, you know, looped course, and going
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: into the final.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Turn, she's like, you're you can do it.
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: Like she basically just said like you got this, like
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: you got it, and like shot, you know, pointed at
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: me from across the course, and I was just like damn, Like,
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: Does took time out of her own race when we're
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: all suffering to like just give me, shoot me some
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: positive words of encouragement, you know. And since then it's
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: just been like, really cool to have her in my corner.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: She's I mean, she's a VET. So yeah, it's pretty awesome.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: The finger guns will get you going for sure. Susanna,
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: what's your experience been like both with having Dez as
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: a mentor and maybe other mentors within the sport helping
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: you navigate your way forward?
• 39:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Does is great. I feel like she offers such
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: incredible perspective. When I was sharing with with Erka yesterday
• 39:43
  Speaker 7: after the race, that Mike. You know, after Budapest, which
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: did not go well for me two years agot the
• 39:48
  Speaker 7: World Championships, my coach had, you know, some some words
• 39:53
  Speaker 7: of encouragement that I think helped me kind of bounce
• 39:55
  Speaker 7: back and have a great day at Chicago the next
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: time I lined up for a marathon. And I think
• 40:00
  Speaker 7: Dez has been that for me several times, like when
• 40:03
  Speaker 7: race's hamn't gone well, She's just she's known the right
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: thing to say, and that comes from having been there.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's great.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And again hearing you reiterate and kind of touch
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: back on that experience you had in Budapest.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: When you hear that, what does that make you think?
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Right now?
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: It makes me look forward to the next.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Championships, the next World Chips.
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I mean bouncing back like that would be pretty sick.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: So if that's the playbook, it is possible.
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Hinted at the post race celebration, What did that look
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: like for the three of you? What happened immediately following,
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: and then what happened as the day went on, Eric,
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: I'll start with you.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Immediately following was a lot of stillness and a lot
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: of water.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: I just like it was unwell, like very unwell.
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: Well, we first of all got naked and changed in
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: one together.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: All athletes from all countries.
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: Just yeah, like here's your changing room and you walk
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: in and it's just an open room.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were prepared for people to be ill.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Yes, people are like screaming because things are chafed that
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: have never been changed before.
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: At that point, you don't care about anything. I'm like,
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: I shot get out of these clothes.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: It was the most wow. I don't know what the
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: right word is for, like that marathon finish I mean,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, but the whole like the
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: finish line and there's not a ton of people like
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: greeting you when you finish after marathon and you're like
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: I'm going to faint, and then there was like not
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of people there. They but then there's like
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: someone who asked you if you're okay, and you're like
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: deliriously like yeah, and then they make you walk up
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: and down like three sets of stairs before you're allowed
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: to sit down. So after that, I went back to
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: the hotel and just sat down for a few hours,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: and then eventually like ate food and we had like
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: a happy hour, which like I rallied for but then
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: after happy hour, I was like, I I'm not doing well.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: But then we saw a shake shack and shake Shack
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: is my haven. So we had that and then I
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: went to bed.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: What's the order?
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: The classic like single shack burger and then chicken bites,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: no fries, and then small shake no fries.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Well, chicken bites instead of fries. Protein.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: I understand them protein, but I'm thinking no water in
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: my body and eat so much salt.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: Give it to me, but I appreciate it. I appreciate milkshake.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: You said, yeah, oh good, Yeah good, Okay, what was
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: your post race?
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: Like Jess, I had eleven members in my family come out,
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: which is crazy. I think Tokyo was on a lot
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: of people's bucket list, so they came out. My niece
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: was their little little dotty, so we I think.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: Well. We got back to the hotel room and I
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: had to brush my hair.
• 43:04
  Speaker 6: For about forty minutes just standing under the hot shower
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: with a whole bottle of conditioner. Yeah, I thought I
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: was gonna have a shaved head. Kind of showing up
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: today was that bad?
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: I was dressed out. I almost called Erica.
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: She's like don't brush it from the top, and Connor's like,
• 43:18
  Speaker 6: we got to brush it from the top, and like
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: Erica said not to brush.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: It from the top.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: I had actually like kind of envision.
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: I'm like Erica told me not to so once. Yeah,
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: and then we just kind of chilled. We went out.
• 43:30
  Speaker 6: I'll be hanging with the Brooks team tonight. But I
• 43:33
  Speaker 6: we finally got a reservation big enough to accommodate a
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: group of ten loud Americans and a baby. So I
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: went out with my family, had some Chinese, no, we
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: did barbecue and had some Japanese beer finally, and then
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: I went to the track, watched fifteen's and tens and
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: watched valwin again, finally got her World Championship title.
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: So it was it was a good night.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: A moment of panic briefly went through my body when
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: you said you went to the I was like, why
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: this one's in the pool today.
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we're all.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Going to that one was in the pool yesterday to that.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Wild did you swim? You swim after the marathon yesterday.
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she's a little bit so talk to us.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: About your post race, Susannah.
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: You know, I talked to my coach for a little
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: bit on the phone, so that was good. And then
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: we walked over to where Brooks. It was kind of
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: there was a little gathering after and I had a
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: little bit of lunch. I had some French fries. That
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: was key.
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: I could be your favorite.
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah okay, and then uh yeah we went back. Also,
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: you know, ripped out a good amount of hair trying
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: to get the tangles out. And yeah, I went to
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: the pool. It was lovely, felt good.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: How much in the pool, like thirty for thirty minutes.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, everyone for those at home, everyone.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: In the room looked at each other like one of
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: my why am I superhuman today?
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was hard to find the clock, so it
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: might have been a little over, but yeah, it was.
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: I mean going to the pools here has been just
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: like a fascinating cultural experience because it's just so different
• 45:23
  Speaker 7: from at home, and it's like very consistent with the
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: things that you and that we've noticed kind of walking.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Around like very tidy, very quiet.
• 45:32
  Speaker 7: Everything is very quiet, even the lifeguards, like when there's
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: a problem, there's like no whistle blowing. There's like a
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: lot of like handwaving. So it's been Yeah, it's been cool.
• 45:45
  Speaker 7: And then we went back and yeah, I got ready
• 45:47
  Speaker 7: to go have drinks with the Brooks crew and my
• 45:51
  Speaker 7: aunt and uncle were in town out for Indian after
• 45:56
  Speaker 7: because I can say that I've never had Indian food
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: the day before a race. But I'm allergic to shellfish
• 46:05
  Speaker 7: and I don't eat pork, So trying to figure out
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: what I can eat here it's been an adventure. And
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: we discovered that cheese non which like had non with
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: cheese on it at home, but like it's baked into
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: the inside of it. It's basically like an inverted pizza.
• 46:20
  Speaker 7: It's incredible, Like every day leading up to the marathon,
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: I had some more of that last night, and yeah,
• 46:29
  Speaker 7: then I was Then I went to the stadium, saw
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: the tail end of the fifteen's, the the ten k
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: and then the hundreds and the long jump finals. So
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: it was an exciting night, a sweaty night at the track.
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: It was it was pretty steamy in the stadium, but
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: it was just a good day of celebrating and I'm
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: I'm excited to be home and you know, celebrate with
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: you know, the kids at school and the coach and
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: my coach coaches at George Mason University, and so that
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: the team had a watch party and the got a
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: whole bunch of texts from them. They can't wait to celebrate.
• 47:02
  Speaker 7: So yeah, I'm excited to celebrate with them too.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: If I recall, is it back to school night next week?
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Thursday night?
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be kind of compiling my thoughts
• 47:16
  Speaker 7: and slides and stuff on the flight on the way back,
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: I think, And yeah, I'm just not even sure what
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: to expect body clockwise for you know, being kind of
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: coherent on Thursday night.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: But I'm gonna give it a go.
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: If I'm not super eloquent, I mean, I'm the math teacher,
• 47:36
  Speaker 7: not the language art teacher. So they can just roll
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: with it.
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: They will roll with it.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I'm sure.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: I'm sure there's some grace to be had for sure.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: You know, we started off this chat today talking about
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: what you all thought success would feel like in Tokyo.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: Now that you have checked it off the list that
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: you all have ran at a World Championships, what would
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: you say was the most successful part of yesterday for you?
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: I would say like going for it and then just
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: sticking it out, hanging tough when it got really really hard.
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: But I think ultimately too is just really embracing like
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: the whole experience and being more curious and like excited
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: about what was going to happen, and not worry about
• 48:26
  Speaker 6: all of the things that were out of our control,
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: the weather, the you know, just being in a different
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: culture in a different country. I think, just yeah, full
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: sending and what is what's that saying? It's like shoot
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: for the moon even if you don't, Yeah, land amongst
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: the star's worst case scenario.
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: So I think I think I did that.
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: But honestly, just like watching Susannah have that day in
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: Redemption was probably top notch.
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it counts, but yeah,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: what Jess said, like I will never forget like seeing
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Susannah like twenty meters ahead of the race but looking
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: so unbelievably confident, Like it was like an insanely contagious
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: amount of confidence.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Like it looked so right, she looked so good.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I was just like I will never forget that picture,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Like it is a poster in my brain. The like
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: redemption arc she's been on since Budapest has been so
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: scary in like the best way, just like coming back
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: with such a vengeance, like give this girl two kneecaps and.
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: Like literally what I saw on the top of the world.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, seeing the comeback from you know, two
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: summers ago to Chicago to now just like the rise,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: you know, like truly a phoenix, like in the flames. Like, oh,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: it's been incredible and like just to see it come
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: full circle was definitely a highlight.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: Susannah, how does that make you feel?
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: She's incredible.
• 49:49
  Speaker 7: It's been like just I mean, it's been the honor
• 49:51
  Speaker 7: of the life of a lifetime to you know, to
• 49:55
  Speaker 7: have the support of Brooks and to like you know,
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: have them you know, hands and pulled me into the
• 50:00
  Speaker 7: fold two years ago, and then like to have this
• 50:03
  Speaker 7: opportunity to go into a World Championships where like yeah, okay,
• 50:10
  Speaker 7: we're all Team USA, but there was just like a
• 50:12
  Speaker 7: deeper level of feeling like team camaraderie, this whole experience,
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: the whole build, the whole time being here, you know,
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: just like riding together, you know, to the practice track
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: and doing runs this past week and just I think
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: feeling like we had each other's backs out there. There
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: was a lot of communication yesterday morning. It's it's just
• 50:33
  Speaker 7: been incredible. I mean, like I I wasn't an All
• 50:37
  Speaker 7: American in college. I desperately wanted to contribute to my
• 50:42
  Speaker 7: college team. And I mean, I would like to think
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: that I did, like vibes wise, but like I'm like, I.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I think I was. Maybe It's just.
• 50:55
  Speaker 7: Like I just took everything so seriously. I was like
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: maybe a little too intense. I didn't allow myself to
• 51:01
  Speaker 7: recover and you know, just really have fun with it.
• 51:05
  Speaker 7: So to be here and to feel like I had
• 51:07
  Speaker 7: the opportunity to contribute to this this thing that we
• 51:10
  Speaker 7: were doing as a Brooks trio was just super meaningful
• 51:14
  Speaker 7: to me. And it's just like, guess been an incredible
• 51:18
  Speaker 7: ride and stuff.
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Knowing what you know now being in this seat here
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: in Tokyo today, when you think about the woman that
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: was walking away, maybe limping away from the marathon in Budapest,
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: what would you tell her now.
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: Like you won't regret trying to, you know, to get back.
• 51:45
  Speaker 7: I walked away desperately wanting another chance. We have a
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: magnet on our refrigerator at home that's like this little
• 51:52
  Speaker 7: it's like a half dollar size like porcelain thing. And
• 51:58
  Speaker 7: we walked into a like a gift shop on the
• 52:01
  Speaker 7: way back to the hotel and Budapest and my like
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: everything buffled around my knee and I fell into this
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: whole display of these porcelain magnets and so like we
• 52:12
  Speaker 7: bought the ones that we broke, and you know, I
• 52:17
  Speaker 7: my husband always jokes that, like, you know, it came
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: back a little bit chipped from from Budapest. So it
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: feels good to not be leaving Tokyo, you know, help
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: feeling health, of feeling good and you know, excited about
• 52:32
  Speaker 7: how much better this one went.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: I love to hear it. We know, New York in
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: seven weeks for this one. What are you two looking
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: forward to now? And it does not have to.
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: Do with running.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to honestly, I'll probably spend most of
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: my time off in the city.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: So come on, yeah, over, I'll be down there this weekend.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: Let's go. Okay, she's hanging out in New York, Jess,
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: what are you looking forward to?
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, it's like being home.
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: We moved early June, and I think I've slept in
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: my bed like fifteen nights since then with altitude training
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: and racing and everything, so just being home. And then
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: I have my fifteen year high school reunion in a
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: few weeks, so I plan that with a few friends,
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: which will be really fun, and then I might potentially
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: go to Chicago to cheer on some marathonors there.
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: Scope it out.
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: Maybe for next year, but yeah, I'm going to take
• 53:28
  Speaker 6: I have not really taken a beat.
• 53:29
  Speaker 5: Since Orlando, so I'm going to take a few weeks.
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, just enjoy the fam and finally some some ninety
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: nine degree days in Phoenix.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I know we're all looking forward to being
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: a little bit cooler than we are right now for sure. Well,
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: I am amazed and inspired by you and honored to
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: sit next to you. I can say, on behalf of
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: all of America, thank you, thank you, thank you. The
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: showing that we saw yesterday was truly like a once
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: in a lifetime thing. So congratulations to all three of
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: you for your stellar performances yesterday. And I know that
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: this is still just the beginning and there's so much
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: more good to be had. Thank you for sitting down
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: with us here. You know what we say on the show.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: Another hurdle conquered to the Brooks family. Thanks for having us,
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: and ladies.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Thank you. ADI got too