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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Chuck here uh in the podcast time. It's
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Speaker 1: August twelve, because we are in the way back machine
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Speaker 1: taking you back for our Saturday Selects episode all about
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Speaker 1: abandoned minds. And to tell you the truth, you guys,
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Speaker 1: I picked this one because I didn't remember doing it,
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Speaker 1: which means I have to listen to it again to
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Speaker 1: make sure it's good. And uh, I'm gonna learn it
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Speaker 1: all over again along with you. So check out this
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Speaker 1: episode from August twelve, what Happens to Abandoned Minds. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Stuff You Should Know, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey,
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Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles
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Speaker 1: W Chuck Bryant. Damn, that makes it sounds I just
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Speaker 1: had some of my notes mixed up, like criminal records
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Speaker 1: was stuffed in the middle of this one, Like, wouldn't
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Speaker 1: that be funny if I was talking about abandoned minds?
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Speaker 1: And then just like a robot was like, and if
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Speaker 1: you have a d U I, you can call your
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Speaker 1: local police shop and get that expunged. Yeah, I think
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Speaker 1: that's bad advice. Well, now I'm just saying, do you
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Speaker 1: not ever call the police unless it's an emergency. You're right, Chuck, Yes, Um,
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Speaker 1: how are you doing good? Three today? Huh yeah, before
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Speaker 1: holiday even In fact, the office is closed right now
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Speaker 1: and we're still working. I know. It's like crickets outside.
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Speaker 1: And someone threw a spear at me when I stuck
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Speaker 1: my head out to go to the bathroom. Good that
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Speaker 1: was his assignment. Yeah, so Chuck, yes, if I may
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Speaker 1: take it down, not your two, Okay. Have you ever
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Speaker 1: heard of a guy named Taylor Crane? A kid? Taylor
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Speaker 1: as a kid who was sixteen years old when he died.
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Speaker 1: He was on a tour of Mexico UM with his
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Speaker 1: parents in New Mexico or mex Mexico, Mexico Old Mexico UM.
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Speaker 1: And he was on a tour I didn't realize he's existed, UM,
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Speaker 1: but a of abandoned haciendas and minds. So it's basically
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Speaker 1: like an urban exploration tour of old Mexico UM. And
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Speaker 1: they were at an old mind site the tour group
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Speaker 1: was and Taylor was apparently playing tag and um jumped
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Speaker 1: up on a low wall and apparently on the other
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Speaker 1: side of that was a thousand foot mind shaft which
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Speaker 1: fell into a thout ten feet across jess wide open
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Speaker 1: a thousand feet down. They had a lot of trouble
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Speaker 1: getting to them to recover him because there's so much
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Speaker 1: lead and arsenic at the bottom that it was really
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Speaker 1: difficult to breathe to get down there to get them.
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Speaker 1: So you think, like, wow, it's really crazy that Mexico
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Speaker 1: has these open minds. Mind blowing as it is, Mexico
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Speaker 1: is not the only place. As a matter of fact,
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Speaker 1: here in the States we have something on the scale
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Speaker 1: of five hundred thousand abandoned minds. That's the high end,
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Speaker 1: but the low end even is still I think like
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Speaker 1: three hundred thousand abandoned minds. Abandoned minds probably two of
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Speaker 1: the most dangerous words you can put together, and they're
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Speaker 1: all over the place. The US is lousy with them. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and about thirty people die in the United States every
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Speaker 1: year from accidents involving abandoned minds. And I did a
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Speaker 1: little looking Apparently they include uh uh quarries and most
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Speaker 1: of these are drownings. Um because the quarry either has
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Speaker 1: water or an abandoned mind shaft. You know, they'll pump
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Speaker 1: out water to work in it, and then when they're done,
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Speaker 1: it fills back up with water. So uh, some say
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Speaker 1: crazy scuba divers, we'll try and scuba dive these things.
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Speaker 1: My dad was actually certified in an old marble quarry
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Speaker 1: in Toledo, and the to be certified you had to
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Speaker 1: go down to a school bus at the bottom of
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Speaker 1: this quarry. Um, you had to dive down to go
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Speaker 1: into the school bus and grab something from it. It
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Speaker 1: was like right inside, and then bring it back up
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Speaker 1: and they'd be like, Okay, you're certifying. Your dad did that. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's pretty awesome. I'm trying to picture that. I can't
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Speaker 1: imagine anything more creepy than having to go into a
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Speaker 1: school bus at the bottom of a filled quarry. No,
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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to picture your dad like I'll, you know,
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Speaker 1: scuba diving and it's been like a buzz cut and
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Speaker 1: more like a big watch and everything. Yeah, he was.
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Speaker 1: I guess anytime you're older and you meet someone father
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Speaker 1: when they're a little older, it's hard to imagine them
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Speaker 1: as young because I didn't know him back then. But
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Speaker 1: I picture him on the couch. Oh no, huh, No,
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Speaker 1: he's a He carried a spear gun everywhere he went
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Speaker 1: with him, did he really? That's awesome. Alright, so, um, sadly,
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Speaker 1: like I said, about thirty people die each year, many
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Speaker 1: of them are drownings. I think number two on the
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Speaker 1: list as a TV accidents, which doesn't surprise me, is
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Speaker 1: tool along in the a TV on some you know,
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Speaker 1: random thinking. You're in the middle of nowhere place and
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden the bottom falls out. Literally. Um. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: those were the top two far and away that I
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Speaker 1: came across too. But since two thousande apparently two seven
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Speaker 1: people have died in the United States because of accidents
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Speaker 1: involving abandoned minds. I saw one in two thousand and eight.
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Speaker 1: These two guys were uh, trying to get a former
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Speaker 1: gold mine going again because they thought there was still
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Speaker 1: gold down there, and they were pumping out water with
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Speaker 1: a some sort of machine with a generator, and they
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Speaker 1: died of carbon monoxide poisoning. Yeah, that's that's another one.
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Speaker 1: I think it's way down on the list. It's like
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Speaker 1: a distant third. But but I think it's it's um
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Speaker 1: being overcome unable to breathe, asphyxiation, that's the word I'm
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Speaker 1: looking for. By bringing in your own thing or just
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Speaker 1: by the toxic chemicals down there toxic chemicals or um,
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Speaker 1: carbon monoxide or oxygen depletion in general from people either
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Speaker 1: try at old ones started up or yea more likely
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Speaker 1: adventuring abandoned mind. Let's go ahead and give a tip
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Speaker 1: to people because we like to encourage the urban explorers,
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Speaker 1: which you know, we've done a podcast on that. But man,
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Speaker 1: you don't need to be hanging around abandoned minds. Now.
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Speaker 1: They're very, very dangerous. Yes, I mean, that's just so
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Speaker 1: mind bogglingly dangerous to resist the urge, And like, I
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Speaker 1: have that urge too because I love the urban exploration.
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Speaker 1: If I saw a hole in the ground, I would
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Speaker 1: want to go check it out. But it's not a
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Speaker 1: good place to be, not a good thing to do.
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Speaker 1: So what's crazy is we said, like up to five
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Speaker 1: hundred thousand abandoned minds and these are just the minds,
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Speaker 1: not mine features. So say every mind has several mind features,
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Speaker 1: Say and add it, which is a vertical shaft or
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, a horizontal shaft. Um, And you've got a
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Speaker 1: vertical shaft like the one that um, poor Taylor Crane
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Speaker 1: fell into. Um, you have all these different mind features
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Speaker 1: on up to five hundred thousand minds. Crazy thing is
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Speaker 1: is as of February two thousand eleven, the Bureau of
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Speaker 1: Land Management, which is tasked with finding these abandoned minds,
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Speaker 1: has only found about thirty one thousand of them. That
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Speaker 1: means that there's possibly four hundred and sixty nine thousand
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Speaker 1: abandoned minds in the United States that no one has
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Speaker 1: on any map. True, but like on on the good side,
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Speaker 1: they're trying to find them. Now. In two thousand and eight,
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Speaker 1: they only had eighteen thousand of them. So in that
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Speaker 1: span of three years they found another, uh, thirteen thousand.
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Speaker 1: I had twelve thousand and two thousand and eight. Oh really,
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Speaker 1: well even better than yeah, um, and I think of
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Speaker 1: those have been remediated, have pending reclamation, or they say
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Speaker 1: aren't a danger and they say so, Um, that's just
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Speaker 1: the physical dangers. Yeah, there's two kinds. There's physical dangers
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Speaker 1: and environmental dangers. And I think and I guess it's
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Speaker 1: of the ones they found they said have physical hazards
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Speaker 1: and five have environmental hazards. There. Yeah, okay, which you know,
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Speaker 1: it's not a ton, but is pretty dangerous. Well, a
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Speaker 1: physical hazard is insidious for the local just the local
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Speaker 1: people who are walking around it sure like falling in, yeah,
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Speaker 1: or maybe caving in. And by the way, I found
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Speaker 1: out that any mine feature that is like a hole
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Speaker 1: in the ground or even like if there's a depression
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Speaker 1: in the ground because of mine collapse some Yeah, they're
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Speaker 1: called glory holes. Did you know that? That was almost
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Speaker 1: a spit take, wasn't it. Yeah, that's not true. I
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Speaker 1: swear to god it is. Wow. I saw a sign
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Speaker 1: today of an abandoned mind called the glory whole mine.
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Speaker 1: Well that's that's quite a name. Yeah, good for them. Uh,
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Speaker 1: mine tailings you talk about, and this is some of
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Speaker 1: the environmental hazards, and these can actually be physical hazards
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Speaker 1: too if you're living nearby. These are the remnants of
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Speaker 1: what was going on there of the mineral, and often
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Speaker 1: it can be very toxic and then that can either
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Speaker 1: be harmful to you or it can run off into
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Speaker 1: the water and be harmful to people, you know, downriver.
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Speaker 1: That was my point is things like um like addits
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Speaker 1: and other mine features. Um, they're dangerous if you're walking
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Speaker 1: around the mine. Environmental hazards of a mind can be
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Speaker 1: very far reaching because, in very much the same way
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Speaker 1: that acid rain is produced from like smoke stacks. These
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Speaker 1: mines can produce acid rain um and they can also
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Speaker 1: produce acid groundwater. When sulfide sulfide minerals and oxygen combined
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Speaker 1: with water, it produces acidic groundwater that can pollute an
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Speaker 1: entire water system downstream and then also chuck. There's mercury
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Speaker 1: tailings or a big problem, especially with gold mines. So
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Speaker 1: you know, like if you take mercury and take gold
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Speaker 1: and put them together, mercury absorbs the gold, and you
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Speaker 1: get a rainbow, right, a deadly rain bow, uh, And
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Speaker 1: it makes what's called an amalgam. And then later on
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Speaker 1: so you have like you can take a little gold
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Speaker 1: flex or whatever and now they're like highly portable, stable
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Speaker 1: little things of mercury. And then you take them somewhere
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Speaker 1: else and you can burn the mercury off and the
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Speaker 1: mercury will vaporize and just the gold is left. Well,
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Speaker 1: the problem is is that mercury then immediately contaminates wherever
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Speaker 1: you just burned it off, and there's the atmosphere and everything.
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Speaker 1: But those kind of tailings are especially problematic and old
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Speaker 1: gold mines too. And does that end up in gold
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Speaker 1: schlager bottles. Probably is that where they get it. I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I hope they're not putting formerly mercury gold
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Speaker 1: amalgam in the gold schlaw. No, the people that gold
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Speaker 1: Schlager wouldn't do that. Uh So, Josh, if this is
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Speaker 1: such a problem, why wouldn't these companies clean up their
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Speaker 1: mind sites. It seems like a no brainer to me.
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Speaker 1: You're there, you do the work, you close it down,
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Speaker 1: you clean it up, make sure it's safe for everybody.
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Speaker 1: That's how you do it now. Yes, supposedly, Uh it
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Speaker 1: was not the case until nineteen seventy seven. For about
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Speaker 1: two years. People mind um even more than that. People
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Speaker 1: mind in the United States, willy nilly however they wanted,
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Speaker 1: and they would they would say, well, this mind's used up.
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Speaker 1: I don't need it any longer. I'm walking away. Well,
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Speaker 1: the quick answer to my question answer now is money.
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Speaker 1: That's the real reason, because it's really expensive to clean
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Speaker 1: up your mind site. If you're a mining operation and
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Speaker 1: you can pre what you can just fold up shop
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Speaker 1: and leave, why would you spend money to clean it up?
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Speaker 1: If you were a company without me like an cole
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Speaker 1: compass in a moral compass, because you know it's gonna
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Speaker 1: hit your bottom line. So screw it, let's just leave it.
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Speaker 1: You know, I can't help but feel like you set
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Speaker 1: me up by asking me that question and expecting the
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Speaker 1: short answer, because I've never given a short answer. Well,
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Speaker 1: that is a short answer. UM two thousand and six
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Speaker 1: congressional testimony said it would cost seventy two billion dollars
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Speaker 1: to clean up only the hard rock minds, like at
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Speaker 1: the hard rock cafes. Right, that's seventy two billion dollars. Well,
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Speaker 1: the Bureau of Land Management, which we said is UM
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Speaker 1: responsible for finding these minds and for reclaiming them. Basically, UM,
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Speaker 1: they divide minds that they have to deal with in
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Speaker 1: the three categories. There's hard rock, which is like gold,
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Speaker 1: silver minerals, iron maybe yeah, I don't think they deal
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Speaker 1: with iron um. And then there's coal mines and then
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Speaker 1: uranium mines. Got it. Well, I saw on the East
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Speaker 1: coast they had a map of where a lot of
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Speaker 1: these abandoned minds are, and there's a lot of them
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Speaker 1: on the East coast, and there were I think a
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Speaker 1: lot of the coal mines. Oh yeah. Like there's Centraliy
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Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania, which we talked about before, is an abandoned
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Speaker 1: town with a coal steam burning underneath. Oh yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 1: Creepy um. So they abandoned the mines. Over time, land
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Speaker 1: records and lease records were lost. Basically take a reverse foreclosure. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: pretty much. And so in the end like no one's
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Speaker 1: on the hook. No one knows many times who these
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Speaker 1: minds originally like, who was responsible for this to begin with?
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Speaker 1: And even if they do know, the minors gonna be
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Speaker 1: like the do you have documentation that's other on that mine?
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Speaker 1: And the government goes no, and the mine owners says,
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Speaker 1: see you, or the other little loophole you wrote this right, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that you pointed out, which was if you have gone
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Speaker 1: through bankruptcy, then you can't be held liable. That is
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Speaker 1: no longer true. Oh is that not true? Yeah? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was happy to find in that there's there's You
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Speaker 1: now have to post a bond basically as a mining
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Speaker 1: company from what I understand from research I did very recently,
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Speaker 1: that you have to post a bond kind of like
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Speaker 1: a fidelity bond that as money you pay in upfront
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Speaker 1: that you get back if your mining operation successfully reclaims
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Speaker 1: the land. If you don't reclaim it, if reclamation isn't
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Speaker 1: like the end of your um mind or you go bankrupt,
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Speaker 1: that money is still there to pay for reclamation. So
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Speaker 1: you're gonna correct the article. I think I should. I
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Speaker 1: think you should. People need to know that. UM. Here's
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Speaker 1: a little thing too, called the Clean Water Act, which UM,
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Speaker 1: obviously you're going to be violating that if you're letting
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Speaker 1: your toxins from your mind leak out into the groundwater,
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Speaker 1: big penalties. But um, as you pointed out that in
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Speaker 1: two thousand and six, that was legislation to exempt people
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Speaker 1: from prosecution who were actually trying to clean up their minds,
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Speaker 1: Like I want to go clean up my mind, and
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Speaker 1: we're gonna exempt you, Uh, as long as you weren't
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Speaker 1: the people who started the mind to begin with. From
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Speaker 1: I guess exempt from the Clean Water Act? Yes, from
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Speaker 1: polluting because with tailings a lot of in a lot
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Speaker 1: of cases, UM, just removing them is going to some's
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Speaker 1: gonna slip into the watershed. And if it's from say
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Speaker 1: a uranium, mind, well that's it's radioactive, and then your
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Speaker 1: water is radioactive and you're in you have to pay
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Speaker 1: a huge fine. Is it better to leave it? I
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Speaker 1: wonder it's better to not get any into the water shed? Well,
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Speaker 1: but can you clean it up without doing that? Yes,
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Speaker 1: I feel like what the government has been doing. The
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Speaker 1: Beer of Land Management does, and they have a division
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Speaker 1: called the Abandoned mine Lands UM. They basically just build
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Speaker 1: a structure around it, kind of like what they did
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Speaker 1: with Chernobyl, but on a much smaller scale, where it's
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Speaker 1: basically like this is gonna stay here for a little while,
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Speaker 1: we'll just put this around it until it's not radioactive anylong. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that's the pressure I have what they're doing, at least
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Speaker 1: with radioactive stuff. Well, that legislation did not pass though, No,
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Speaker 1: it didn't, which seems like it would discourage people from
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Speaker 1: trying to clean these things up, right. Yeah, but I
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Speaker 1: also read testimony from UM this group called Earthworks, and
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Speaker 1: they were lobbying against that loophole, saying it was overly
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Speaker 1: broad Really that basically like if you just picked up
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Speaker 1: a little bit of litter whatever, you were automatically exempt
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Speaker 1: from the Clean Water Act, so it could be used
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Speaker 1: to nefarious ends by a moral people. Well, you mentioned
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Speaker 1: the Abandoned mind Lands program under the Bureau of Land Management. UM,
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Speaker 1: they get funding roughly in the neighborhood of twelve to
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Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars a year, and you know we said
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Speaker 1: earlier it takes seventy billion to clean up I think
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Speaker 1: just a hard rock site. So they're doing the best
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Speaker 1: they can. UM. Over an eight year period they cleaned
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Speaker 1: up more than three thousand minds, which is awesome, But
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Speaker 1: when you've got potentially five dred thousand out there, it's
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Speaker 1: a little scared to think about. So to to remediate
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Speaker 1: a mind, you have to address the physical stuff and
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Speaker 1: the environmental stuff. You have to take care of the
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Speaker 1: tailings piles, you have to UM prevent any more acid
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Speaker 1: groundwater from being produced. You have to disassemble and carry
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Speaker 1: off any old machinery, any old buildings, maybe UM, and
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Speaker 1: you have to cover up entrances. But covering up a
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Speaker 1: mind shaft a glory hole as it's called in the
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Speaker 1: industry UM is not quite as cut and dry as
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Speaker 1: you think. You just put a huge, heavy metal slab
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Speaker 1: over it. The problem is is when you build a mind,
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Speaker 1: in a lot of cases, you've disturbed bat population. When
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Speaker 1: you UM abandon the mine, you basically are leaving this
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Speaker 1: bat population with a an awesome little place to live,
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Speaker 1: a playground. If you will exactly UM now bats are
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Speaker 1: really really essential to our comfort and happiness, and that
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Speaker 1: the average bat can kill something like six mosquitoes an
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Speaker 1: hour when it really wants to if it's frisky. So
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Speaker 1: we want to keep bats around. They're already being decimated
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Speaker 1: by a white nose fungus. Right, So people who are
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Speaker 1: reclaiming abandoned mind have figured out that there's ways that
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Speaker 1: you can keep humans out but let bats in and out.
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Speaker 1: And so they put on like bat couple of vertical shafts,
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Speaker 1: which is basically just like a little roof that has
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Speaker 1: slats to let the bats fly in and out. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that makes sense, And a bat gate is virtually the
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Speaker 1: same thing, except it goes into like an addit bat
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Speaker 1: gate that couple of I think it's a great idea
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Speaker 1: because then like, you're not gonna find a kid down
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Speaker 1: in there. No, you're not disturbing the population of the
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Speaker 1: bat unless the kid is the size of a bat.
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Speaker 1: And even still, why is he not like bat boy?
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Speaker 1: That's his problem? Well, bat Boy's fine. Yeah. Um, So
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Speaker 1: the E p A UH started something called the super
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Speaker 1: fund UM, which basically means mining companies now pay into
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Speaker 1: this UH huge bank account to cover costs of future cleanups.
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Speaker 1: But that's not enough to meet the needs, so taxpayers
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Speaker 1: end up paying for the discrepancies. Not on mind my
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Speaker 1: tax money going towards that. So apparently nowadays since um,
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Speaker 1: part of the Abandoned Mind Reclamation Fund UM is that
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Speaker 1: if you're a mining company, you're putting in your paying
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Speaker 1: at tax basically for every uh thirty one for every
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Speaker 1: ton of surface coal that you mine and every ton
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Speaker 1: of underground coal, you're paying um thirty one point five
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Speaker 1: cents for surface coal and thirteen point five cents a
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Speaker 1: ton for underground mind stuff, and all that goes into
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Speaker 1: the super fun to reclaim it. That's not bad. Well
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Speaker 1: this this October, I think it's going to go down
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Speaker 1: to twelve cents and twenty eight cents attacks. Yeah. Um.
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Speaker 1: Things times are tough all over for everybody. Yeah, they are. UM.
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Speaker 1: In nineteen eight six, Josh, as you point out, the
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Speaker 1: Department of Interior created an award for mining excellence. It's
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Speaker 1: like Yard of the Month for abandoned mond and reclamaining.
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Speaker 1: I think it's called the Mining Award and um all
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Speaker 1: joking aside, it's very cool that they do this because um,
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Speaker 1: a lot of you know, people are more responsible these
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Speaker 1: days with their mining operations. They're not all bad. Mining
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Speaker 1: is a vital thing. We're not trying to poop poo that.
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Speaker 1: And then we did like with the mountaintop removal. Coal
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Speaker 1: mining came down pretty hard. But um, a lot of
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Speaker 1: miners these days are pretty responsible and they are reclaiming
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Speaker 1: this land and uh going back in and planning vegetation
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Speaker 1: and trying to preserve old buildings and make those into
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Speaker 1: live work space condos exactly what they're doing. Yeah, so
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Speaker 1: that's great. Yeah, keep it up is what I say.
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Speaker 1: I agree, and be careful out there a TV people
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Speaker 1: in rock Cory swimmers. Yeah there. Um, if you see
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Speaker 1: a mind, stay away. I believe that's the name of
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Speaker 1: the program. Really yeah, stay away. Yeah. It's like you
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Speaker 1: know those cartoony posters with exclamation points and stuff like that.
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Speaker 1: Um P S A S that's what they're called. Uh.
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Speaker 1: I think if you do see a mind, go on
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Speaker 1: the internet and look up reporting abandoned minds and you
21:38
Speaker 1: will find a way to do it, and that will
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Speaker 1: be helpful. You'll save some money, save some taxpayer money
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Speaker 1: if you report a mind yourself, agreed. Uh. If you
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Speaker 1: want to know more about abandoned minds and reclamation and
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Speaker 1: all that stuff. You can type it into the search
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Speaker 1: bar at how stuff works dot com. And I said,
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Speaker 1: search bars means it's a time for That's right, Josh.
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Speaker 1: This closes out the trilogy. I'll go and start out
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Speaker 1: with Donna Fessler. My husband always wants to call my
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Speaker 1: beef vegetable soup as stew, but it is broth based.
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Speaker 1: I don't argue um, and basically she's asking about this.
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Speaker 1: My recommendation, Donna is to go check out the podcast
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Speaker 1: Judge John Hodgment because he has a full podcast on
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Speaker 1: I Believe Chili Chili's Chowders, stews and soups and the differences. Right,
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Speaker 1: the first one, it was pretty early on. Judge John
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Speaker 1: will break it all down for you. Nice plug, Chuck,
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Ryan Taylor. Question, what time is it a hammertime?
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Speaker 1: Be time to make the donuts or see bure o'clock
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Speaker 1: time to make the donuts beer o'clock? We've going from
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Speaker 1: Jeremy Glover. Did either of you grew up watching Andy
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Speaker 1: Griffiths Show? I think he means the Andy Griffiths Show. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I certainly did. I did too, and reruns. Is there
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Speaker 1: anybody yes, same here. Is there anybody who is alive today?
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Speaker 1: They didn't grow up watching yet? Yeah, well he's asking
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Speaker 1: that because any Griffith did today? Oh really? Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: didn't know he's still alive he was till today. Wow,
23:11
Speaker 1: that's that's well. He had quite a run. Yeah, he
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Speaker 1: was eighty six years old. Good full life, as as
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Speaker 1: Sheriff Andy Taylor Matlock And uh was that it? Those
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Speaker 1: there's two big characters. Didn't you have a third? Those
23:24
Speaker 1: were the two big ones? Does any like the landlord
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Speaker 1: on threes company for a little while? No, I don't
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Speaker 1: think so. Tanya Chobez, it is my anniversary. Can you
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Speaker 1: do a quick shout out to my very patient husband,
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Speaker 1: Abe Franklin. It would be a fun surprise, all right, Tania,
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Speaker 1: I think it's Tania. Happy anniversary to you and Abe.
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Speaker 1: Happy anniversary Tanya and Abe. Oh here's a good one.
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Speaker 1: Brandon Nichols, Who would you most like to punch in
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Speaker 1: the face? That's sort of like the fight club question?
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Speaker 1: Who would you fight? Would I most like to punch
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Speaker 1: in the face? Would it be a good one? I
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Speaker 1: think myself many times. Yeah, that's very much like fight club.
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Speaker 1: Actually I got someone else, but I can't say. I
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Speaker 1: think you know who it is. Oh yeah, I'd like
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Speaker 1: to punch him in the face. Yeah you got anyone.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything. I guess anything. So that was
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Speaker 1: kind of a cop out. Uh. Vitality says, would you
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Speaker 1: rather fight one hundred duck size horses or one horsed
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Speaker 1: sized duck? I love these questions one horse sized duck.
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Speaker 1: I don't go for the one horse sized duck because
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Speaker 1: you get like a sharpened stick in its neck. It's
24:37
Speaker 1: over and done with. It's kind of like that um
24:40
Speaker 1: garage full of guided missiles up in space. Yeah, you
24:43
Speaker 1: take one out, you take ten out. If you've got
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Speaker 1: like a hundred duck sized horses coming at you, they're
24:49
Speaker 1: going to get the best of you. Yeah. Plus, that's
24:51
Speaker 1: just creepy, man. Can you imagine a hundred like one
24:53
Speaker 1: ft tall horses coming after you? I find the horse
24:56
Speaker 1: sized duck creepier. I don't. I don't mind that. That's
24:59
Speaker 1: some good eating too. Oh yeah, uh Micah Mia Mia Mea.
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Speaker 1: Paul Cannell says. However, Maya Maya says, how is Atlanta
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Speaker 1: really quality of life? Would you recommend it? I would?
25:12
Speaker 1: I love Atlanta I'm from here, and I moved back
25:14
Speaker 1: here for a reason. Josh, do you like Atlanta? Sure,
25:16
Speaker 1: Atlanta's great. Atlanta is great, Robert Casey, Is Jerry as
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Speaker 1: smoking hot as we think she is? And more? My friend,
25:25
Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say about that. Have you ever
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Speaker 1: gotten a threatening uh listener mail from Nathaniel Yeager? No?
25:32
Speaker 1: Nothing threatening? Really like physically threatening? Um? Uh? No? Menacing?
25:39
Speaker 1: How about that? I've gotten a couple of little crazy ones,
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Speaker 1: but never menacing. Care to share? No, okay, I want
25:46
Speaker 1: to set anybody off. How about one more? Okay, let's see. Um.
25:53
Speaker 1: Why is cilantro so divisive? From Heidi Wells? Good question,
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Speaker 1: Heidi Wells, that is a good one. Cilantro, the herb
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Speaker 1: also known as coriander or um Chinese salary I believe
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Speaker 1: in some quarters or clan. Yeah, um, that's pretty good,
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Speaker 1: thank you. H is divisive because it strikes different people's
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Speaker 1: tongues differently. It's really big time right some people, cilantro
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Speaker 1: is a glorious herb, including and me. I love solant
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Speaker 1: me too. To other people, it tastes very much like soap. Yeah,
26:27
Speaker 1: my friend says that, and there is actually if you're
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Speaker 1: interested a video on web md that addresses this question,
26:34
Speaker 1: and if you watch very closely, the filmmaker, who is
26:37
Speaker 1: a friend of mine who I know through Humi, put
26:41
Speaker 1: in a moment where he takes a thing of Paul
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Speaker 1: malive and puts it over a taco and it happens
26:48
Speaker 1: just for a second, but it's pretty brilliant. Want to
26:52
Speaker 1: it was just funny. Look at Yeah, it's like, did
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Speaker 1: you just put soap on a taco? Yeah? There you go. Well,
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Speaker 1: here's what I have to say. I feel sorry for
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Speaker 1: people who have that taste reaction too, because cilantro to
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Speaker 1: me is one of the great great things in UH.
27:05
Speaker 1: On food and some drinks. Yes, I put a little
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Speaker 1: cilantro Margarita's from time to time, so good. It's really nice.
27:11
Speaker 1: And a couple of slices of Hall of Peno. Yeah
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Speaker 1: all right, I'm hungry, thirsty. I am too, man, Let's
27:17
Speaker 1: go with some guacamole. Uh. If you have questions for
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