Latest / Best of Business / Michael Gordon: Westpac senior economist on the declining confidence in the labour market
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- 0:16Speaker 2: People around the country feeling pretty pessimistic about their chances
- 0:19Speaker 2: of getting a job. The wes Pac McDermott Miller Employment
- 0:22Speaker 2: Confidence Index, which is where you go out and ask
- 0:24Speaker 2: people how are you feeling about your job prospects, it's
- 0:27Speaker 2: dropped to eighty eight point three. That is the lowest
- 0:30Speaker 2: level since September twenty twenty, which was after the lockdowns,
- 0:35Speaker 2: So that's not a great stat Michael Gordon's Westpac Senior
- 0:38Speaker 2: Economsty's with me now, Hi, Michael, Good happening, Well, things
- 0:42Speaker 2: looking So why are people feeling so grim?
- 0:45Speaker 3: Well? I think it's the reality of jobs are still
- 0:48Speaker 3: pretty hard to come by. We hear from certainly from
- 0:52Speaker 3: businesses that while they're some of there having trouble fillings
- 0:56Speaker 3: more specialist roles, but they're tending to find that there's
- 0:58Speaker 3: generally a lot of people available, and some of them
- 1:01Speaker 3: also finding themselves a bit overstaffed having held on to
- 1:04Speaker 3: people through the downturn. So there's just not a lot
- 1:07Speaker 3: being advertised at the moment, and that's rarely been the
- 1:09Speaker 3: biggest driver of that perception that things are pretty tough
- 1:15Speaker 3: in the jobs market at the moment.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Depends where you live, though, doesn't it. I mean, you
- 1:18Speaker 2: look at some of the regions and actually things are
- 1:20Speaker 2: looking quite good.
- 1:23Speaker 3: It varies a bit, I think, probably more so in
- 1:26Speaker 3: terms of earnings and the job opportunities. Is what's coming
- 1:29Speaker 3: through in our survey whither I will obviously the exceptions.
- 1:33Speaker 3: I think there's been stories about quite a bit of
- 1:36Speaker 3: activity around reefs and and parts of the West Coast
- 1:39Speaker 3: as well, But generally we sort of found that there's
- 1:42Speaker 3: sort of a bit more variation in it's sort of
- 1:46Speaker 3: more the farming areas where they're seeing some pretty decent
- 1:50Speaker 3: gains from high dairy and beef prices. Is not necessarily
- 1:54Speaker 3: flowing out into spending in the wider regions yet, but
- 1:56Speaker 3: certainly those more directly linked to it are finding things
- 2:01Speaker 3: a bit better than those of us in the cities.
- 2:03Speaker 2: Michael, When is it going to get worse? When does
- 2:07Speaker 2: it end? You know, when does the confidence return?
- 2:12Speaker 3: The labor market tends to be one of the slower
- 2:14Speaker 3: things to turn with the cycle. So even if you
- 2:17Speaker 3: consider those GDP figures we had last week, so we've
- 2:20Speaker 3: got some growth out of it. It's probably the underlying
- 2:25Speaker 3: picture is it's not really out stripping population growth at
- 2:28Speaker 3: the moment, so it'll take a bit more than what
- 2:32Speaker 3: we've seen to date to sort of really actually be
- 2:34Speaker 3: able to start to generate some jobs. And as a
- 2:36Speaker 3: result of that, we're expecting the unemployment rate is probably
- 2:40Speaker 3: going to go a bit higher this year before it peaks.
- 2:43Speaker 3: We're not talking, you know, really high peaks compared to
- 2:46Speaker 3: what we've seen in some past cycles, but you know,
- 2:48Speaker 3: undoubtedly it's you know, it's quite a bit different from
- 2:51Speaker 3: where we were a couple of years ago when there
- 2:53Speaker 3: was very you know, we're all very low rates of unemployment.
- 2:56Speaker 2: All right, Michael, thanks so much for your analysis. Michael Gordon,
- 2:58Speaker 2: Westpac Senior Economist.
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