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Steve Price | 1 November · Steve Price

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Speaker 1: Live.
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Speaker 2: This is Steve Price.
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Speaker 1: Good on you erin, Thank you very much. Welcome to Friday.
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Speaker 1: At the end of what you have to say, has
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Speaker 1: been another massive weekend in news, dominated by the presidential
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Speaker 1: election closing stages. And I'll talk to Ross Greenwood in
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Speaker 1: New York. Shortly the alb and Easy upgrade scandal that's
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Speaker 1: still making news, and today another senior labor figure from
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Speaker 1: the left shells out more than three million dollars for
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Speaker 1: a mansion. Shortly, as I said, we'll take you live
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Speaker 1: to New York where it's the middle of the night,
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Speaker 1: and with just five days to the presidential election, it's
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Speaker 1: set to reach a crescendo. Ross Greenwood is there. He's
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Speaker 1: been out on the streets of New York in the
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Speaker 1: middle of Halloween. Today Roscoe will joined us live from
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Speaker 1: New York. Shortly we'll be speaking to a real estate
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Speaker 1: about real estate and whether it's worth being a landlord
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Speaker 1: these days in Australia. I doubt it is. These days,
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Speaker 1: these state governments, they've tipped the scale firmly in the
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Speaker 1: favor of tenants who'd want to be a landlord. Where
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Speaker 1: are we with the nuclear debate? I get a sense
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Speaker 1: more and more Australians are ticking the yes box. Will
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Speaker 1: patch up again with Will Shackle. He'll join us later
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Speaker 1: in the program. Now, before we get to our first guest,
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Speaker 1: to talk housing and the dangers of being a landlord
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Speaker 1: in many states of Australia, I want you to indulge me,
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Speaker 1: and I hope I'm not being too cynical here. I
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Speaker 1: don't like to be cynical, but what's almost impossible around
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Speaker 1: politics in Australia right now not to be a cynic
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Speaker 1: Now stay with me, So say that your boss, in
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Speaker 1: this case, the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi has just endured
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Speaker 1: six days of dithering embarrassment around his taste for the
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Speaker 1: front end of aircraft. And given you are a factional
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Speaker 1: ally of the PM, you'd like the political narrative to
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Speaker 1: move on Parliament's due back next week. And the last
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Speaker 1: thing the government would want is more questions about taking
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Speaker 1: the family to Rome on a free upgrade. Insert a
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Speaker 1: senior minister prepared to take one for the team. Enter
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Speaker 1: factional heavy and Labour's Foreign Minister Penny Wong. Now, Minister
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Speaker 1: Wong had seen the fallout from her mate Albo's purchase
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Speaker 1: of that four point three million dollar beach house on
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Speaker 1: the cliff at Copa Cabana Beach north of Sydney. So
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Speaker 1: she knows what's happening. Penny hailes from the labor left
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Speaker 1: faction in South Australia and wants to help her mate
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Speaker 1: from Sydney out Albo. And you know what, sooner or
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Speaker 1: later the media she knows is going to find out
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Speaker 1: that you, Penny Wong has just settled on her own
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Speaker 1: multimillion dollar mansion in Ritzy Umley park An in a
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Speaker 1: South suburb. Now, I think Sydney's Paddington Melbourne South the era,
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Speaker 1: they're the best comparisons. What about if we leaked that
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Speaker 1: fresh labor MP buys million dollar mansion in the middle
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Speaker 1: of a housing crisis story to stem the bleeding over
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Speaker 1: the upgrades and who rang well they maybe folks, I've
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Speaker 1: been watching too much of the US style politics during
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Speaker 1: the current soon to conclude presidential campaign. But that's exactly
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Speaker 1: what happened on Sydney Radio this morning. Benham, who originally
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Speaker 1: broke the story about Elbow's place up up on the South,
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Speaker 1: up on the north coast of New South Wales, he
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Speaker 1: broke the news that Penny Wong and her wife, and
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Speaker 1: good on them have settled on a three point four
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Speaker 1: million dollar house in Unley Park. Now, I'm from Adelaide
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Speaker 1: and I can tell you three point four million dollars
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Speaker 1: buys you a hell of a lot of house in Adelaide. Now,
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Speaker 1: it might not have the pmcview, but it's close to
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Speaker 1: the city. Most of those places are beautifully renovated. Many
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Speaker 1: constructed a bluestone on large blocks. This one's got a
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Speaker 1: swimming pool. Look. It's just a theory, but why not
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Speaker 1: divert attention from Upgrade Albow to Unley Park? Penny? After all,
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Speaker 1: things couldn't get any worse, could they? Now? Just before
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Speaker 1: I get to real estate and a real estate issue
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Speaker 1: that will affect normal people just caught my eye during
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Speaker 1: the week when it seems no one was running the country.
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Speaker 1: They were just running. Now all of you would have
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Speaker 1: an Australia post horror story. I suspect government owned basically
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Speaker 1: a pass delivery outfit that shuts down post offices at
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Speaker 1: an alarming rate, rendering some of our rural communities with
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Speaker 1: no bank and no post office disgraceful. While the Prime
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Speaker 1: Minister tried to remember who he did or didn't ring
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Speaker 1: about a plane seat. The Australian newspaper's Margin Call column
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Speaker 1: this week had these astounding revelations about the taxpayer owned
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Speaker 1: postal service. We learned, for a start, Australia Post made
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Speaker 1: an eighty eight point five million dollar loss before tax
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Speaker 1: in the last year. Last year, it was two hundred
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Speaker 1: million dollar loss. So there was, according to Margin Call,
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Speaker 1: much backslapping and wait for it, a round of management
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Speaker 1: bonus payments. Gee, guys, we only lost eighty eight not
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Speaker 1: two hundred million. Here's some taxpayer funded handouts for you. Now.
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Speaker 1: Remember former boss Christine Holgate of this outfit lost her
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Speaker 1: job for handing out watches as bonus pay, So these
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Speaker 1: people never learn. Now, there's a bloke in charge called
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Speaker 1: Paul Graham. Take home pay not His salary grew by
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Speaker 1: a whopping three hundred and one thousand, nine hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifty two dollars or thirteen percent. So the bloke overseeing
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Speaker 1: almost ninety million dollar loss last year took his salary
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Speaker 1: package too two point six eight million dollars and that
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Speaker 1: included a cash bonus cash of two hundred and sixteen
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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty eight dollars. I I'd bother you
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Speaker 1: with all the other blokes and their inflated salaries, and
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Speaker 1: they all appear to be blokes at a loss making
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Speaker 1: government post office. But can I make a simple point,
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Speaker 1: could you, mister Alban easy forget about planes for a
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Speaker 1: second and do your job. Call in the Minister for
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Speaker 1: Australia Post Michelle Rowland and ask her to explain what
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Speaker 1: exactly is going on here. Many Australians no longer have
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Speaker 1: a daily mail man. A letter from Adelaide to Sydney
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Speaker 1: can take two weeks, and those parcel delivery people make
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Speaker 1: no effort to work out if you're actually home, and
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Speaker 1: they just dump your stuff at the local post office.
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Speaker 1: And could you also PM ask your minister why a
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Speaker 1: bloke being paid over two million dollars a year is
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Speaker 1: running an outfit making a loss of eighty eight million dollars.
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Speaker 1: Thanks very much, Okay, let's get stuck in now. Last
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Speaker 1: week the new South Wales government reformed the state's rental laws,
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Speaker 1: effectively banning no grounds evictions. Now Premier Chris Min's described
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Speaker 1: this as this brings the rental market into the twenty
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Speaker 1: first century. And this week typically Victorian Premier just said
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Speaker 1: Allen followed suit, announcing six new reforms, design she says
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Speaker 1: to benefit renters, but many say it further penalizes landlords
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Speaker 1: who are already really doing it tough because of land taxas.
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Speaker 1: For more on this, I'm joined this evening by the
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Speaker 1: Sea of the Real Estate Institute of Victoria, Kelly, Ryan Kelly,
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Speaker 1: welcome to you. I mean, I guess the obvious question
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Speaker 1: right up front is why with these changes, with anyone
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Speaker 1: want to be a landlord?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for having me, Steve.
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Speaker 4: It is becoming quite a complicated market for our landlords, unfortunately,
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Speaker 4: and they're critical to having a really successful viable state
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Speaker 4: is being able to have enough rental supply. And the
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Speaker 4: majority of the rental supply and Victoria comes from people
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Speaker 4: who own one property and they're integral to how we
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Speaker 4: house people.
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Speaker 3: And unfortunately, at the moment, the amount of.
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Speaker 4: Changes that are coming from the Victorian government are making
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Speaker 4: things a little bit tougher than they have in the past.
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Speaker 1: Well, every time I go for a walk anywhere in
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Speaker 1: Metro Melbourne, Kelly, I mean, I see for sale signs,
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Speaker 1: and a lot of them are up on one bedroom
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Speaker 1: apartments which presumably are owned by small time property investors
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Speaker 1: might have stuck it in their superannuation, but they're now
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Speaker 1: getting whacked with things like land taxes and vacant home
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Speaker 1: taxes and they're thinking, well, I might get out and
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Speaker 1: just plant my money somewhere else.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a.
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Speaker 4: Theme that we're here and quite regular from our agents
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Speaker 4: and agencies that we represent.
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Speaker 3: The amount of stock that has gone from.
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Speaker 4: The investor pull into the market to be sold has
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Speaker 4: seen a significant increase this year alone, and seeing from
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Speaker 4: the data there's twenty thousand less rental bonds actually being
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Speaker 4: lodged in the last twelve months, which gives you an
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Speaker 4: indication as to how many rental homes are no longer
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Speaker 4: actually on the market for our renters.
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Speaker 1: So it seems that the government is pulling in two
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Speaker 1: different directions. On the one hand, they keep telling us
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Speaker 1: we've got a rental and housing crisis. On the other hand,
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Speaker 1: they keep whacking the property sector with evermore taxes and
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Speaker 1: so invariably you're going to either move some people out
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Speaker 1: of Victoria into places like Queensland, or you're going to
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Speaker 1: get people selling up.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's are conversations we've had quite regularly with the government,
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Speaker 4: is that both need to be healthy, and we certainly
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Speaker 4: advocate for our renters having a great rental experience. Feeling
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Speaker 4: safe and secure in a home that is well served
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Speaker 4: is absolutely critical, so we never begrudge any changes that
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Speaker 4: actually improve the renter's life. However, it is a really
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Speaker 4: delicate balance, especially at the moment when we've come off
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Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty reforms in twenty nineteen into COVID
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Speaker 4: where there are restrictions in terms of what you could
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Speaker 4: and couldn't do with renters in your property, into now
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Speaker 4: land tax as you highlighted, mortgagees have increased at a
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Speaker 4: considerable rate, and now into some more changes and more
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Speaker 4: yet to come.
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Speaker 3: We do really want to see.
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Speaker 4: Our investors that are providing this great service rewarded in
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Speaker 4: some way, shape or form, especially in the short term,
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Speaker 4: because we really want to make sure that we don't
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Speaker 4: lose any more than we currently have.
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Speaker 1: So on talkback radio this week, I heard a lot
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Speaker 1: of tenants, a lot of landlords, i should say, saying
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Speaker 1: it's gone too far toward the tenants. What would your
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Speaker 1: view on that be? Has it tipped too far one way?
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Speaker 4: Look, I think you have to take a a balanced view. Again,
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Speaker 4: we definitely advocate for great rental experiences, but there's a
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Speaker 4: time and a place, and the messaging that we continue
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Speaker 4: to give government is great initiatives that again improve a
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Speaker 4: rental provider's lifestyle is important, but at some stage we
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Speaker 4: do want to see a slowing down of the rental reforms,
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Speaker 4: just to give the market a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Of reprieve, if you like.
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Speaker 4: So we don't think some of these initiatives too much
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Speaker 4: to ask in terms of just pausing, delaying, allowing the
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Speaker 4: market to balance itself a little bit more.
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Speaker 3: Because whilst we've.
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Speaker 4: Seen some great initiatives ben announced from the government in
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Speaker 4: the last week in terms of increasing supply, that supply
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Speaker 4: will take many years.
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Speaker 3: To actually come to fruition.
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Speaker 4: So we really need to make sure we can consolidate
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Speaker 4: and lock down the investor market that we've got right
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Speaker 4: now to make sure we've got enough homes for these
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Speaker 4: rents to live in.
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Speaker 1: I'm not a landlord, but if i were, how hard
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Speaker 1: does it mean for me to evict someone who's behind
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Speaker 1: in their rental has caused some damage on my property.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the legislation is very prescriptive in the sense that
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Speaker 4: you can't ask for an eviction and even to get
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Speaker 4: an eviction, you must go to VCAT to request that
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Speaker 4: someone's consistently late in their rant across a twelve month period.
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Speaker 4: You have to issue five warnings before then you can
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Speaker 4: lodge an eviction order with VCAT. But that's on a
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Speaker 4: rolling cycle of a twelve month period, so it does
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Speaker 4: start again once that twelve month period has concluded. So
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Speaker 4: it does become increasingly challenging because of the legislation changes.
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Speaker 4: But again, hopefully we can promote more great tenants and
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Speaker 4: more great landlords and we can really start to hopefully
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Speaker 4: create more of a partnership mindset as well, because at
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Speaker 4: the moment it does seem like there's just a little
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Speaker 4: bit too much animosity in terms of the relationship between
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Speaker 4: the renter and the rental provider, whereas we would really
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Speaker 4: like to see it acted and everyone start behaving in
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Speaker 4: more of a partnership mindset.
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Speaker 1: We've seen a bit of this book before. I mean,
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Speaker 1: back in the the early nineties a lot of investors
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Speaker 1: moved their investments to Queensland. Queens has now got a
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Speaker 1: coalition government with the LMP winning last weekend. Are you
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Speaker 1: concerned as someone who's trying to keep the real estate
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Speaker 1: market in Victoria healthy that Queen's Land might start chucking
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Speaker 1: out some of those more odious taxes and attracting more
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Speaker 1: and more investment North.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously we keep a very close eye on our
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Speaker 4: northern neighbors. In particular Queensland's been doing a great job
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Speaker 4: as it is in interracting investment, as has South Australia
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Speaker 4: of late. So we certainly do watch with great interest
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Speaker 4: how these reforms impact our other neighbors, and notionally we
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Speaker 4: will watch really closely in terms of the changing government
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Speaker 4: and what that means. But the focus for us is
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Speaker 4: to continue working really closely with the Aline government.
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Speaker 3: We do have a good relationship with them and we.
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Speaker 4: Do get consulted on these changes and we just try
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Speaker 4: and provide as much practical advice as we can provide
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Speaker 4: the data that backs up the unintended consequences sometimes of
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Speaker 4: some of these changes, and will continue to advocate on
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Speaker 4: behalf of the investor and on behalf of our members
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Speaker 4: who are the agents and agencies and property managers that
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Speaker 4: have to at the end of the day administer and
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Speaker 4: manage all of this change, and them in their own
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Speaker 4: right are finding it hard to keep up with the
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Speaker 4: quantum of change as well.
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Speaker 1: Kelly Ryan from THERIIV, thank you very much for your
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Speaker 1: time tonight. Appreciate it very much. Now, speaking of the
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Speaker 1: housing crisis, there are currently thousands of homes and apartments
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Speaker 1: we learn today across New South Wales that are actually
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Speaker 1: sitting empty because of industrial action by a union. This
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Speaker 1: happens to be the Electrical Trades Union. Now what they're doing,
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Speaker 1: we're told they are delaying connections to the grid. Union
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Speaker 1: members they want a twenty four percent pay rise over
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Speaker 1: three years. Many unions are getting that these days, and
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Speaker 1: power supplier Endeavor Energy's application to the Fair Work Commission
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Speaker 1: to terminate the industrial action was knocked back in all
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Speaker 1: with fears delays may continue until at least maybe even
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Speaker 1: the end of the year. Now, in addition to thousands
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Speaker 1: of homes, the action is affecting affordable housing developments, which
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Speaker 1: the governments of all stripes say they want to make quicker,
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Speaker 1: and major government infrastructure projects are suffering as well. Now.
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Speaker 1: The New South Wales Premier Chris Men's was on TGB
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Speaker 1: with Ray Hadley today. He said he'd been unaware of
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Speaker 1: the issue, but the Union task Force says at least
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Speaker 1: the energy Minister Penny Sharp was aware in any event,
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Speaker 1: if labor both state and federal are fair, Dinkham about
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Speaker 1: easing the housing crisis, maybe just maybe it's time they
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Speaker 1: stepped in. Well, you can't imagine the United States presidential
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Speaker 1: election is going to get any more bizarre. What a
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Speaker 1: week we've had with garbage trucks and all sorts of things.
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Speaker 1: Let's go to the US now. The candidate's Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. They're heading into the final weekend of the campaign.
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Speaker 1: Polls will close Tuesday local time. Result will come down
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Speaker 1: to the wire with poles in swing states now still
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Speaker 1: pretty narrow, too close to call. Today both candidates had rallies,
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Speaker 1: one in Nevada, where polling averages show Donald Trump has
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Speaker 1: probably got a four point or four percentage lead over Harris.
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Speaker 1: Now for more, I'd love to go to New York
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Speaker 1: because it's been Halloween. There we find Sky News Business
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Speaker 1: editor Ross Greenwood, Ross, the city that never sleeps. I
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Speaker 1: bet it knows how to turn on a Halloween party.
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Speaker 5: You've never said anything like it.
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Speaker 6: You and I Steve have been here for Christmas in
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Speaker 6: New York City and it does a great Christmas.
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Speaker 5: In fact, I think it does the best Christmas.
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Speaker 6: Anywhere in the world, but I can tell you it
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Speaker 6: exceeds itself. At Halloween, Every girl, every monster, everybody comes out.
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Speaker 6: Two million people go to the West Village Parade, which
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Speaker 6: is just quite astonishing to even see all the floats
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Speaker 6: and everything go through. But it's the people in the
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Speaker 6: crowd that are even more bizarre and go to such
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Speaker 6: enormous efforts to do it. But the really interesting thing
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Speaker 6: is when you start to chat to these people. In
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Speaker 6: five day's time, those people go to the polls. And
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Speaker 6: it doesn't matter whether you're talking to young trans couples
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Speaker 6: or whether you're talking to rusted on Republicans. The fact
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Speaker 6: is that people are engaged in this election. So just
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Speaker 6: a couple of stats for you. The last time the
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Speaker 6: election was held, there was one hundred and fifty eight
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Speaker 6: million people who voted in America, one hundred and fifty
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Speaker 6: eight million, which represented more than two thirds of the
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Speaker 6: eligible people who could vote. Now, considering that voting here
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Speaker 6: is voluntary, you don't have to do it. The fact
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Speaker 6: of the matter is people are engaged. To the people
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Speaker 6: we're talking to on the streets at Halloween, no matter
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Speaker 6: where we go to, not only do they do no
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Speaker 6: Sky News in Australia, which is the big thing for us.
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Speaker 5: But the second thing is they are politically savvy. They're
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Speaker 5: literate about this election.
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Speaker 6: They're following the news, they're following the events, and of
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Speaker 6: course that's the reason why both candidates are literally shadowing
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Speaker 6: each other, just looking for that gotcha moment to hit
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Speaker 6: that final edge or advantage in this election campaign.
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Speaker 5: Explain the inspiration for your outfits.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, so usually, since Hollomie falls on a Thursday, we
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Speaker 7: got Thursday, Friday and Saturday to kind of, you know,
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Speaker 7: deal with. So with the first day right here, I'm
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Speaker 7: sheeffling Guinie from Raditu, Disney Pixar. We got Remy on
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Speaker 7: the side helping me out. We got the wooden spoon,
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Speaker 7: and she's gonna have a great night tonight.
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Speaker 6: You both look fantastic for Halloween. You've gotten to a
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Speaker 6: lot of effort, haven't you. Yes, Halloween in New York
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Speaker 6: it's a big celebration.
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Speaker 1: Why is it so big do you think?
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Speaker 8: I think it's big because you get to dress up,
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Speaker 8: do something eccentric and New York we love that.
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Speaker 6: In five days time, there is the election. Are you
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Speaker 6: going to be celebrating that day as well.
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Speaker 1: I don't know about that one.
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Speaker 5: You don't know about that one? Why is that one?
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Speaker 5: Just I said about that.
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Speaker 9: One, I'm not too happy with the candidates we have.
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Speaker 5: I love Halloween, one of my favorite holidays.
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Speaker 1: Happy Halloween.
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Speaker 5: So the other thing that really does sort of stand
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Speaker 5: out to me. That's pretty cool.
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Speaker 6: Hi, right, see those people out there doing their stuff.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. I was going to say the other thing that
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Speaker 5: really standing in this election campaign. Oh, well, that's a question.
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Speaker 5: You can argue that.
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Speaker 6: But they are voting age, they're eligible, right, So that's
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Speaker 6: the most important thing.
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Speaker 5: Can I tell you from that election campaign?
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Speaker 6: Just while you're there, even around me standing here on
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Speaker 6: the rooftop, basically there are a nightclub still going off
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Speaker 6: after three o'clock in the morning.
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Speaker 5: As you know, you'd call it the city that doesn't sleep.
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Speaker 5: It doesn't.
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Speaker 6: But the onther thing that stands out to me really
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Speaker 6: are the parallels between the United States and also New
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Speaker 6: York City and Australia. And some of the electoral campaigns
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Speaker 6: and issues that we have in Australia.
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Speaker 5: Are quite similar to here in New York.
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Speaker 6: That is, migration is an absolute key, the cost of
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Speaker 6: housing is another one, and the management of the economy.
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Speaker 6: These are really some of the key issues that come
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Speaker 6: down to the reason why people will vote the way
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Speaker 6: they will in this election. So what I did yesterday
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Speaker 6: at our time was to go to City Hall here
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Speaker 6: in New York and I went to the leader of
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Speaker 6: the minority, the Republican job, but really just to get
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Speaker 6: his take on the election campaign.
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Speaker 9: Have a listen, We've had two hundred and twenty thousand
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Speaker 9: people come through our system as migrants who have crossed
19:09
Speaker 9: the southern border and have arrived here. We have sixty
19:12
Speaker 9: five thousands still in our system. That means nearly one
19:15
Speaker 9: hundred and fifty thousand people are somewhere in New York
19:17
Speaker 9: City putting pressure on our existing housing supply. We had
19:20
Speaker 9: a housing crisis before, you know, twenty twenty two when
19:24
Speaker 9: this problem arose, and now it's only been exasperated by
19:28
Speaker 9: the amount of people who are coming here that also
19:31
Speaker 9: qualify for certain programs. They just put pressure on an
19:34
Speaker 9: existing housing instruction.
19:37
Speaker 6: Of course, the issue there's TOADV is people coming across
19:40
Speaker 6: the borders, in particular from the South, but they do
19:42
Speaker 6: gravitate to the biggest cities as migrants always do when
19:46
Speaker 6: they come into new countries. And that's the reason why
19:48
Speaker 6: Sydney and Melbourne have got the issues in regards to housing.
19:51
Speaker 6: And of course the same thing happens in the biggest
19:54
Speaker 6: city in the United States as well.
19:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, and as we know, ross some of those Republican
20:00
Speaker 1: governors of the Southern States, they got sick and tired
20:03
Speaker 1: of the numbers of people coming over the borders, and
20:05
Speaker 1: you know, just stopping in those towns, they were singing
20:08
Speaker 1: them on aircraft and flying them up to places like
20:11
Speaker 1: New York, saying, well, a few Democrats and New York's
20:14
Speaker 1: a very Democrat place. For as we know, if your
20:16
Speaker 1: Democrats are so in love with people coming across the border,
20:19
Speaker 1: here's a few thousand for you to look after.
20:23
Speaker 6: Oh it's so true. And maybe that's also another little issue.
20:27
Speaker 6: So so you're right about New York. It's been Democratics
20:30
Speaker 6: since the early nineteen eighties. There's been no Republican candidate,
20:33
Speaker 6: so they're rusted on Democrats. But the one interesting part
20:36
Speaker 6: about this is in the twenty twenty election, it was
20:39
Speaker 6: actually New York and some of the upstate New York
20:42
Speaker 6: sort of counties that allowed the Republicans to gain control
20:46
Speaker 6: of the Congress, and so those particular sort of counties
20:51
Speaker 6: are going to be vital again in the race to
20:53
Speaker 6: see who gets the Senate control and who also gets
20:56
Speaker 6: control of the Senate, because whoever becomes the president, come on,
21:00
Speaker 6: Harris or Donald Trump really would like to have an
21:03
Speaker 6: easy way to get their agenda and their legislation through
21:07
Speaker 6: the Parliament, which is a little bit like again Australia.
21:10
Speaker 6: Try to have control of that Senate so you don't
21:12
Speaker 6: have to deal with those minority parties.
21:16
Speaker 1: Well, of course, Trump Tower dominates part of the skyline there.
21:18
Speaker 1: I mean, there must be some people in New York
21:21
Speaker 1: that actually appreciate what Trump's done for New York. And
21:24
Speaker 1: he might He's probably got supporters who are probably not
21:26
Speaker 1: willing publicly ross to put their hand up and so
21:29
Speaker 1: I'm going to vote for him, But quietly and secretly
21:31
Speaker 1: they go away and do just that.
21:35
Speaker 6: Well, I think that's true too, and that's the reason
21:37
Speaker 6: why when you had Biden coming out and talking about
21:40
Speaker 6: garbage and really evoking sort of going back to Hillary
21:43
Speaker 6: Clinton talking about deplorables and all that type of thing.
21:46
Speaker 6: It's actually that silent, you know, sort of minority that
21:49
Speaker 6: really do start to come out in force now.
21:51
Speaker 5: To be honest here on the streets. Though this is
21:53
Speaker 5: a Democratic town.
21:54
Speaker 6: Thoy were in the village where there are young people
21:56
Speaker 6: who are traditionally very very strongly swinging to the Democratic Party.
22:01
Speaker 6: The reality is that it's not too hard to find
22:04
Speaker 6: Republicans here. It's not too hard to find people who
22:06
Speaker 6: jump in front of the camera and say vote Trump.
22:08
Speaker 6: So as I say, people are passionate on either side here.
22:12
Speaker 6: They're not afraid to pin their colors to the masters
22:14
Speaker 6: that were to tell.
22:15
Speaker 5: You the way they're going to vote. And you know,
22:17
Speaker 5: it really is quite fast.
22:18
Speaker 6: And we stood outside a pre polling place today and
22:20
Speaker 6: just chatted to people as they were coming out, and
22:22
Speaker 6: again they're the people really strongly committed to vote, really
22:27
Speaker 6: strongly committed to the issues that they found, you know.
22:30
Speaker 5: Sort of deep to them and so on.
22:32
Speaker 6: All sides. Didn't matter which pod people voted. The people
22:35
Speaker 6: are engaged here. It's not quite like Australia where you've
22:38
Speaker 6: got to vote. Here you've actually got to get out
22:40
Speaker 6: and vote. But the fact of the matter is both
22:42
Speaker 6: candidates now wanting more and more people to vote because
22:44
Speaker 6: they think that will give them the edge in what.
22:46
Speaker 5: Is the tit election?
22:49
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22:51
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22:53
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22:56
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22:59
Speaker 1: in New York and you can catch a course our
23:01
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23:04
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23:07
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23:11
Speaker 1: Can't wait for that still ahead tonight though the Energy
23:14
Speaker 1: Regulator cannot guarantee cheaper power with renewables, so why is
23:18
Speaker 1: there still such resistance to nuclear We'll have more on
23:22
Speaker 1: that soon and up next new Queensland Premier David chris
23:26
Speaker 1: Fully's bold timeline for action on youth crime is it feasible?
23:30
Speaker 1: We'll be joined by our Friday regular, former Queensland Premier
23:33
Speaker 1: Campbell Newman. Welcome back, Steve for us with you on
23:38
Speaker 1: this Friday Night now, following his outstanding coverage of the
23:42
Speaker 1: Queensland election last week, if it's time to welcome back
23:45
Speaker 1: our Friday Night regular has been with us all this year,
23:47
Speaker 1: Campbell Newman. Great to see you, Campbell. You enjoyed yourself
23:52
Speaker 1: on Saturday night. A good result only spoiled by the
23:56
Speaker 1: very mean spirited non speech from Miles at the end
24:01
Speaker 1: where he refused to concede.
24:04
Speaker 10: Oh look, it was a shocker of a concession speech,
24:08
Speaker 10: not that we've heard much concession. And of course rich O,
24:12
Speaker 10: a labor sort of elder, called it out. I mean,
24:15
Speaker 10: he was very clear that he didn't approve at all
24:18
Speaker 10: of that.
24:19
Speaker 2: Neither did I on the night.
24:20
Speaker 10: But a very solid result for David Christa Foley and
24:24
Speaker 10: the LNP, a very good working majority. It's not all
24:28
Speaker 10: finalized yet, but at the moment it looks like they've
24:30
Speaker 10: got at least fifty one seats.
24:33
Speaker 2: To the labor parties thirty four. Know, a solid result.
24:38
Speaker 10: I continue to reiterate that I think it should have
24:40
Speaker 10: been a much stronger result after ten years of a
24:45
Speaker 10: very incompetent government. But a win's a win, and let's
24:49
Speaker 10: hope that they build on that over the next to
24:52
Speaker 10: four years and actually increase their majority.
24:54
Speaker 2: And I think they can do that.
24:58
Speaker 1: Is it still and make my night? Is it still
25:00
Speaker 1: minus one for the Greens?
25:05
Speaker 10: Well, at the moment the Green's air it look like
25:07
Speaker 10: they've only got one. There's still these seats in doubt,
25:11
Speaker 10: and I hope that's the case. I mean particularly I
25:14
Speaker 10: though contrast the big talk, I mean, the Greens really
25:19
Speaker 10: are great, a sort of we're going to win big
25:21
Speaker 10: and we're going to get this one, we're going to
25:22
Speaker 10: get that one, we're going to take that seat on
25:24
Speaker 10: And that was the rhetoric prior to election night, and
25:29
Speaker 10: that didn't happen at all. Indeed, the local government elections
25:33
Speaker 10: are a pretty big deal up here as well, Steve.
25:36
Speaker 10: So we go back to the BCC council election in
25:39
Speaker 10: March this year and we saw similar sort of high
25:42
Speaker 10: pitch rhetoric from them which didn't sort of come to fruition.
25:45
Speaker 10: So I'm feeling pretty good about that. I think people
25:49
Speaker 10: are finding out who the Greens political party are. They
25:52
Speaker 10: are not about the environment, They're about extreme left wing causes.
25:56
Speaker 10: And think quite rightfully there, I'm revote is now under pressure.
26:01
Speaker 2: Thank god for.
26:02
Speaker 1: That, as you know better than just about anyone else,
26:06
Speaker 1: the hard work now starts. For the new premiere. He
26:09
Speaker 1: talked tough on cracking down on youth crime from the outset.
26:13
Speaker 1: He wants to push through adult crime for adult time
26:17
Speaker 1: before Christmas. Will he get it up and will it work.
26:22
Speaker 10: Well?
26:22
Speaker 2: I think he will get it up.
26:24
Speaker 10: And he announced his cabinet today and I should free
26:27
Speaker 10: quickly say that I think he's got that pretty right.
26:30
Speaker 2: It's an interesting balance.
26:32
Speaker 10: Nineteen in the cabinet, six women, and I think he's
26:35
Speaker 10: put people in the right set of slots. There's some
26:38
Speaker 10: interesting changes that he's made despite saying that everyone was
26:42
Speaker 10: going to be in the same slot.
26:43
Speaker 2: But I think that was always going to happen.
26:46
Speaker 10: But in terms of this important crime legislation, he will
26:50
Speaker 10: push on. The thing about David Chris of Foley is
26:52
Speaker 10: he's highly intelligent, he's high energy, he's driven, he's a
26:56
Speaker 10: driven individual and he is outcome focused on this one.
27:00
Speaker 10: I'm quite sure that he will put in place what
27:04
Speaker 10: he wants to see in terms of legislation. There will
27:07
Speaker 10: be hows, there'll be screams from all the left wing
27:10
Speaker 10: groups and the identities who've actually been in charge for
27:14
Speaker 10: the best part of the last three decades. They've actually
27:16
Speaker 10: had the year of government. It's their system. Let's try
27:20
Speaker 10: something new. And I think that's the encouraging thing about
27:23
Speaker 10: David CHRISTA Foley, and I think he will put that
27:26
Speaker 10: through and I think it will make a big difference.
27:30
Speaker 1: As you also know, when you win an election like that,
27:32
Speaker 1: lots of people come to you putting their hand out,
27:34
Speaker 1: some of them worthy, some not. So I think in
27:37
Speaker 1: a worthy case, Queensland Police Union they reckon they need
27:40
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars injection to recruit more and better officers,
27:45
Speaker 1: better working conditions. It'd be hard to argue with that.
27:49
Speaker 10: I would think, well, it is hard to argue in
27:53
Speaker 10: a news corporate reported. I'm assuming the figures are roughly right,
27:57
Speaker 10: but the gist of it was during the time that
27:59
Speaker 10: the peer in office. Last time we've me at the helm,
28:03
Speaker 10: we put sort of around nine hundred police net extra
28:07
Speaker 10: on the beat in a three year period. In the
28:10
Speaker 10: last sort of sort of eight to ten years there's
28:14
Speaker 10: only been about eight hundred extra and the state's population
28:18
Speaker 10: has grown far more proportionally to that. So I think
28:23
Speaker 10: we do need more police, we need more police resources.
28:26
Speaker 10: But I will say this about the Queensland Police Union.
28:29
Speaker 2: These are the.
28:29
Speaker 10: People who in the very start of the twenty fifteen
28:32
Speaker 10: election campaign came out swinging previous police union met head
28:38
Speaker 10: and he really made a very negative impact on the
28:42
Speaker 10: LMP at the start of the campaign. So I hope
28:45
Speaker 10: line police officers realize that this time round they've got
28:50
Speaker 10: to get behind a government that wants to get behind them,
28:53
Speaker 10: and I hope that they call for their union to
28:56
Speaker 10: be balanced and sensible over the course of this term,
28:59
Speaker 10: and that if if the Chris of Foley government does
29:01
Speaker 10: give the police what they need and actually gets behind
29:04
Speaker 10: them in a legislative and in a moral support type
29:08
Speaker 10: of way, that they actually reward that by actually not
29:12
Speaker 10: coming out and having a go as they did in
29:14
Speaker 10: twenty fifteen.
29:17
Speaker 1: Just finally and quickly, where am I sitting on at
29:21
Speaker 1: the opening ceremony of the twenty thirty two Olympics. You'd
29:24
Speaker 1: knew I'm going to ask you this, Where am I sitting?
29:27
Speaker 1: What suburb? Where's my stadium?
29:30
Speaker 2: What suburb?
29:32
Speaker 10: Well, you know they're starting that review as well. Who knows.
29:37
Speaker 10: I don't agree with this. You know we can do
29:40
Speaker 10: it with the existing infrastructure. I think we do need
29:43
Speaker 10: a new stadium. I mean, I'm just pitching as I do, Steve.
29:46
Speaker 10: I think Hamilton North Shaw is a wonderful prospect, a
29:51
Speaker 10: brown field site, and there is so much that we
29:54
Speaker 10: can do there. I think it will be wonderful and
29:57
Speaker 10: so hands off Victoria Park, you know. I'll say that
30:01
Speaker 10: as well to those proponents who are trying to push
30:04
Speaker 10: that as to an upgrade of the Gabba, Well it
30:07
Speaker 10: would be a great location, but.
30:09
Speaker 2: It's going to be a very expensive rebuild.
30:11
Speaker 10: But it's got, as Anastasia Palis said on election night,
30:14
Speaker 10: it's got all the public transport there. It's close to
30:17
Speaker 10: the CBD on a bad site, but I'll let other
30:21
Speaker 10: people decide whether it's worth the money.
30:25
Speaker 1: Good work, my friend. I'll talk to you next week.
30:27
Speaker 1: That's Campbell Newman there.
30:28
Speaker 11: Now.
30:28
Speaker 1: I spoke earlier about the issues New South Wales was
30:30
Speaker 1: having in connecting new bills to the power grid thanks
30:33
Speaker 1: to the ETU Industrial Action, but the entire country is
30:37
Speaker 1: facing not only energy uncertainty but a likely rise in
30:41
Speaker 1: power prices as more renewables come online. Even the Australian
30:44
Speaker 1: Energy Market Operator a EMO conceded during the week that
30:48
Speaker 1: they can't guarantee cheaper power bills with the green transition,
30:52
Speaker 1: so the debate continues to rage around nuclear. I'm joined
30:55
Speaker 1: by the Nuclear for Australia founder William Shackel. Good to
30:59
Speaker 1: have you back on labors now failed to deliver cheaper
31:02
Speaker 1: power bills. AEMO says, Look, cheaper energy is not coming
31:05
Speaker 1: from renewables, so isn't it time that the people who've
31:09
Speaker 1: been so adamantly anti nuclear really stop and have a
31:13
Speaker 1: proper look at it.
31:14
Speaker 11: Will Well, the issue is that AEMO can't actually model
31:18
Speaker 11: nuclear because they have to do their analysis around government policy.
31:21
Speaker 11: So the issue is we can't actually get a comparison
31:24
Speaker 11: of what it would look like with nuclear, and I
31:26
Speaker 11: think it makes it therefore really difficult therefore to weigh
31:30
Speaker 11: up whether nuclear is right for Australia, which I think
31:33
Speaker 11: it is. When you look around the world, fifty countries
31:36
Speaker 11: are looking at nuclear for the first time. Thirty two
31:38
Speaker 11: countries already have nuclear. What is it that we know
31:41
Speaker 11: in Australia with the limited research and insights that we have,
31:45
Speaker 11: that the rest of the world doesn't about nuclear energy?
31:50
Speaker 1: I was intrigued during the week to read what the
31:53
Speaker 1: Smart Energy Council ironic name they spoke at a House
31:57
Speaker 1: Select committee in Canmebra this week and I really made
32:01
Speaker 1: some quite offensive remarks, didn't they look?
32:05
Speaker 11: I think it starts The issue starts with inviting the
32:08
Speaker 11: Smart Energy Council to the committee. In the first place,
32:11
Speaker 11: they're not nuclear experts. They're renewable lobbyists, pid renewable lobbyists,
32:16
Speaker 11: and I think it showed in their testimony. It was
32:18
Speaker 11: highly dramatic. And in addition, they made multiple incorrect statements
32:22
Speaker 11: about nuclear whether it was doubling the price of the
32:26
Speaker 11: Vocal nuclear power plant in Georgia which was recently built,
32:30
Speaker 11: whether it was misunderstanding radioactive waste management and suggesting that
32:35
Speaker 11: there was no solution for nuclear waste when all around
32:38
Speaker 11: the world it has to be safely managed, and it
32:40
Speaker 11: is safely managed. I've seen radioactive waste, nuclear waste management
32:44
Speaker 11: with my own eyes. So I think it's really disappointing
32:48
Speaker 11: that that the Smart Energy Council was invited to that committee,
32:51
Speaker 11: and I think it showed in their testimony how little
32:55
Speaker 11: understanding they actually have of nuclear.
33:00
Speaker 1: We just caught up with Campbell Newman. We're talking about
33:02
Speaker 1: the election results from the weekend. You're in Queensland. Obviously,
33:05
Speaker 1: David chrisof Foolly won, but he has publicly said that
33:10
Speaker 1: he's out of step with the federal coalition on their
33:12
Speaker 1: nuclear plans. Do you think he's for changing Do you
33:16
Speaker 1: think he's someone who can be talked around to change
33:20
Speaker 1: his mind.
33:21
Speaker 11: Look, I've never made him, but the issue is that
33:24
Speaker 11: it's going to be inevitable that he'll have to embrace
33:26
Speaker 11: new cleanergy. From my understanding the coalitions, the l and
33:29
Speaker 11: p's policy is to keep on shutting down the coal plants,
33:34
Speaker 11: not build any more renew up, you know, not support renewables,
33:37
Speaker 11: not support nuclear And when we know that electricity demand
33:40
Speaker 11: is going to need to increase according to AEMO, it's
33:44
Speaker 11: going to have to double by twenty fifty.
33:47
Speaker 1: So if we're not.
33:48
Speaker 11: Building more energy, then there it simply is no solution
33:51
Speaker 11: if we want to keep the lights on, if we
33:53
Speaker 11: want to have low power bills, if we want to
33:55
Speaker 11: lower emissions, it's inevitable that he will have to embrace
33:59
Speaker 11: new clanergy because currently the L ANDP does not have
34:02
Speaker 11: a serious energy policy.
34:06
Speaker 1: I just get a sense Willy might have been doing
34:07
Speaker 1: that for the election, that view of his.
34:10
Speaker 11: I think so, and it's disappointing. Queensland has a ban
34:13
Speaker 11: on nuclear energy and I think it's just as silly
34:15
Speaker 11: as the federal one. All around the world they're embracing
34:18
Speaker 11: nuclear energy and to have a ban on a technology
34:22
Speaker 11: like this when we need more energy, not less, I
34:25
Speaker 11: think is just simply crazy.
34:28
Speaker 1: William Away, was pleasure to catch up with you, my friend,
34:30
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Now coming up former Prime Minister
34:33
Speaker 1: Kevin Rudd, my old mate. He's gone missing in action
34:36
Speaker 1: during this crucial US election campaign. I wonder why that is.
34:40
Speaker 1: The answer probably won't surprise you. And up next Herald's
34:44
Speaker 1: Sun cartoonist Mark Knight. He's had a fabulous week with
34:47
Speaker 1: these cartoons. He has his take on the week's news.
34:54
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Price with you and the fantastic Danika
34:56
Speaker 1: de Giorgio coming up at the top of the hour
34:59
Speaker 1: with her fabulous pres Prime Time and of course next
35:01
Speaker 1: week Sky goes into overdrive with the US presidential election.
35:05
Speaker 1: Can't wait for the coverage on Wednesday. But now it's Friday.
35:09
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be Friday without looking back on the week
35:11
Speaker 1: that was through the eyes of our mate, Herald Sun
35:14
Speaker 1: cartoonist Mark Knight. Mark, you have had a sensational week
35:19
Speaker 1: or so, starting of course with the Queensland election which
35:24
Speaker 1: was lost by Stephen Miles. Now you've gone cane toad,
35:28
Speaker 1: haven't you. You've gone cane toad.
35:31
Speaker 12: Cane toads is such a wonderful symbol of the proliferation
35:35
Speaker 12: of labor governments around the country, just like the sort
35:38
Speaker 12: of cane toad has prospered well. Now I think it's
35:42
Speaker 12: I think the conservative parties are hitting back with their utes,
35:48
Speaker 12: and one cane toad has been dispatched.
35:52
Speaker 1: I've got a suspicion that Steven Miles won't be texting
35:55
Speaker 1: you asking if you have a copy of that, although
35:58
Speaker 1: you did, you did. I'm reminded you did once draw
36:01
Speaker 1: me as a bulldog, so maybe he will. You're trying
36:04
Speaker 1: to trigger us Dan Andrews and the North Faced Jackets back.
36:08
Speaker 12: I had everybody saying this to me.
36:11
Speaker 1: They were.
36:12
Speaker 12: There were anxiety and panic attacks all around Victoria. People
36:17
Speaker 12: saw the North Face Jacket return on dear Dan Andrews.
36:23
Speaker 12: It took us back to those lovely daily press conferences
36:26
Speaker 12: he would hold telling us all the facts and figures
36:29
Speaker 12: of COVID. So I do apologize for that, but I
36:32
Speaker 12: think the cover report should look at North Face Jackets
36:37
Speaker 12: and the possible banning of them.
36:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they should be banned. I'd certainly never
36:42
Speaker 1: gone by one. Anthony Alberaniz He's had a pretty rough
36:45
Speaker 1: week with his upgrade dramas. He and Alan Joyce featured
36:49
Speaker 1: prominently in one of your fabulous drawings.
36:54
Speaker 12: I have never been into the contest chairman's lounge. I
36:56
Speaker 12: had to actually source pictures of it to see what
36:58
Speaker 12: it looked like. It looks pretty plush, and I just thought,
37:02
Speaker 12: you know, Albo always trots out that story of how
37:05
Speaker 12: he grew up in public housing, and it was a
37:08
Speaker 12: perfect occasion that he would no doubt till Alan as
37:14
Speaker 12: he was serving in Champagne. So and of course the
37:18
Speaker 12: Quads former CEO says, yes, Albo, you truly are a
37:22
Speaker 12: man of the people.
37:24
Speaker 1: He certainly seems to like the high life. Now we're
37:27
Speaker 1: in the middle of the presidential election campaign. That must
37:30
Speaker 1: be just manner from heaven for a cartoonist like you.
37:34
Speaker 1: You've got Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday to go, and obviously they're
37:38
Speaker 1: going to feature prominently over the next few days. The
37:42
Speaker 1: Trumpster was cooking up French fries at a McDonald's and
37:50
Speaker 1: I think he was scaring the customers.
37:54
Speaker 12: I can't stee I can't believe this campaign. We've gone
37:58
Speaker 12: from Biden's cognitive decline to Kamala Harris being drafted an
38:03
Speaker 12: assassinate assassination attempt on Trump, and now he's serving McDonald's fries.
38:09
Speaker 12: So we've just gone through everything and this cartoon. For me,
38:13
Speaker 12: I thought, well, these are the choices for America. You've
38:15
Speaker 12: got Donald McDonald serving fries or you've got Kamala for chief,
38:20
Speaker 12: which of course is KFC. So they are the two
38:23
Speaker 12: choices for America this week.
38:26
Speaker 1: Don't know how you came up with KFC Kamala the chief. Now,
38:30
Speaker 1: the big gap of the week came from the serving president. Unbelievable,
38:34
Speaker 1: he's still in charge of the free worll can you
38:36
Speaker 1: believe it? Joe Biden opened his mouth and really put
38:39
Speaker 1: a bomb under Kamala's election hopes.
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Speaker 12: Well, just as Hillary Clinton did in twenty sixteen with
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Speaker 12: her deplorable comment about Trump supporters, good old Joe came
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Speaker 12: out and just absolutely put Kamela in it with his
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Speaker 12: quote about Trump's Trump voters being garbage. And of course,
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Speaker 12: you know it didn't take a cartoonist like myself too
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Speaker 12: much to draw the the garbage being dumped on poor
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Speaker 12: old Kamela's campaign. And there's Joe in his aviators with
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Speaker 12: his favorite quote, Oh man, what.
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Speaker 1: Have I done? Absolutely sensational of that is now. Ross
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Speaker 1: Greenmer was just wandering the streets of New York during Halloween,
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Speaker 1: caught up with some very bizarre characters as Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: been out doing trick or True.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think you should.
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Speaker 12: I mean, you know, Trump is a he's a great character,
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Speaker 12: and since he's adopted this Donald's role, I mean, can
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Speaker 12: you imagine that rocking up to your door in the evening.
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Speaker 12: There's there's several small children in that cartoon, who look,
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Speaker 12: I don't know which way to look, actually, but Donald,
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Speaker 12: it's trick or Trump. That's that's basically what the elections
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Speaker 12: come down to.
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Speaker 1: I won I won't say this is definitely right, but
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Speaker 1: I suspect you probably are leading towards Donald Trump because
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Speaker 1: of the years of joy he's going to give you
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Speaker 1: with your cartooning pen mart Night, lovely stuff, mate. We'll
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Speaker 1: catch up within a couple of weeks. That's mart Night.
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Speaker 1: You can catch all his cartoons, including one of my
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Speaker 1: column in The Herald Sun Tomorrow Now still ahead, Labors
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Speaker 1: Merry Go Round a Gas continues. This time it's Penny
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Speaker 1: Wong in the firing line. My panel with their take
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Speaker 1: on this latest saga. Up next, Welcome Back, Friday Night
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Speaker 1: Panel Time, Jemmy Toonini from GT Communications, Joints Us from
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Speaker 1: Perth and Sky News contributor Joe hildel Brand. Welcome to
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Speaker 1: you both. Gemma is at lunchtime over there yet.
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Speaker 3: I don't even know.
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Speaker 2: No, but it's nineteen eighty five.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I thought it was back then. Now I had
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Speaker 1: a not a conspiracy theory, but I prospered the case
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Speaker 1: at the beginning of the program, and I wondered, I
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Speaker 1: want you to go with me here and tell me
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Speaker 1: whether I'm being insane. Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi, we know,
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Speaker 1: bought that multi million dollar Copa Cabana Beach house and
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Speaker 1: Joe will be up there as a guest when he
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Speaker 1: settles on it. Foreign Minister Penny Wong has now bought
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Speaker 1: a three point four million dollar property in Adelaide, and
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Speaker 1: being an Adelaide boy, I can tell you get a
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Speaker 1: lot of property for three point four million to you first, Joe.
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Speaker 1: This leaked out today on our mate Ben Fordham's show
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Speaker 1: on two GB. Was this just a convenient way to
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Speaker 1: change the narrative away from who sits we're on an aeroplane?
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Speaker 8: Well, I suppose if it's if they're doing this as
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Speaker 8: a deliberate strategy.
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Speaker 1: It's a pretty interesting one, and say.
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Speaker 8: Hey, don't look at this scandal, look at this other
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Speaker 8: scandal over here.
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Speaker 5: I think with.
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Speaker 8: Both of these, with both of these things, look the
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Speaker 8: fact of the matter, as we've very quickly found out,
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Speaker 8: is that politicians get upgrades, they get perks, they all
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Speaker 8: sit in the chairman's lambs, they all get their upgrades,
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Speaker 8: and very quickly a scandal like this engulfs everybody. And
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Speaker 8: we're seeing a similar thing here. I think as well.
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Speaker 8: You know, people buy houses, and politicians are much more
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Speaker 8: well paid than most of us, and they are going
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Speaker 8: to buy bigger and nicer houses. Now that means that
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Speaker 8: they haven't done anything wrong. They're entitled to have a
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Speaker 8: family home, they're entitled to think about life after politics.
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Speaker 8: But it's still kind of just a bad look. Even
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Speaker 8: if in politics they say perception is reality, And even
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Speaker 8: though I don't think the PM or P anyone has
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Speaker 8: done absolutely anything wrong, to even look like you're living
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Speaker 8: the high life in the middle of a cost of
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Speaker 8: living crisis is just going to put some people's noses
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Speaker 8: out of joints. And I think there's a sort of
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Speaker 8: professional class, a white color class, who don't see what
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Speaker 8: any of the fuss is about. And I've got that
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Speaker 8: feedback very strongly. And equally strongly, I think there's a
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Speaker 8: class of people for whom either of these houses would
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Speaker 8: be simply forever out of reach for their entire lives.
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Speaker 8: And they are thinking, what the hell, I can't pay
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Speaker 8: the mortgage, I can't pay the rent, and these guys
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Speaker 8: are snapping up multimillion dollar high So I think that's
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Speaker 8: how it's.
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Speaker 1: Running, Jemma, Joe's just protecting his copraa Kabana weekend. I mean,
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Speaker 1: as a communications guru like you are, would you have
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Speaker 1: perhaps said, should we change the narrative a bit here
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Speaker 1: and leak out a bit of detail about someone else
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Speaker 1: buying an expensive house?
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Speaker 13: Well, first of all, I'm no risk of being invited
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Speaker 13: to either Karza Albana or Kazawong, so I can tamper
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Speaker 13: my comments through that lens.
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Speaker 7: But I'm on a.
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Speaker 1: Unity ticket with Joe.
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Speaker 13: If that's the strategy, it's an awful strategy because both
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Speaker 13: of them are rubbish. But what it does point to,
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Speaker 13: if you take a step back and look at the
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Speaker 13: bigger picture, you've got a government that has traded on
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Speaker 13: the politics of identity, the politics of envy, the politics
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Speaker 13: of one rule for us and another rule for the
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Speaker 13: rest of you. And this is where I think it's
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Speaker 13: problematic for this government because leadership is supposed to be
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Speaker 13: purpose over preference. Leadership is supposed to be in many ways,
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Speaker 13: sacrificial leadership isn't supposed to be. I'll look over their proletariat,
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Speaker 13: go line up for your soup while I buy my
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Speaker 13: three million, four million dollar house.
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Speaker 3: I agree with Joe.
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Speaker 13: Neither the Prime Minister nor Senator Wong has done anything wrong.
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Speaker 3: This isn't about wrong.
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Speaker 13: Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.
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Speaker 1: Joe, let's talk about our old mate. Kevin Rudd of
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Speaker 1: course called me publicly the most inconsequential non entity journalism
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Speaker 1: has ever produced. Thank you, Kevin. He's disappeared. Is nowhere
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Speaker 1: to be seen in this campaign? Is he bunkered down
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Speaker 1: in the Australian embassy in Washington's he'd been told by
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Speaker 1: someone in the Albaneze government don't stick your head up.
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Speaker 1: We don't need you putting your big fat mouth in
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Speaker 1: the middle of the campaign.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, Pricey, I think you might be onto something there.
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Speaker 8: You believe it or not, are not the only person
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Speaker 8: that Kevin Rudd has maligned and his long and at
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Speaker 8: times very verbose life, He's had plenty to say about
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Speaker 8: Donald Trump. And of course, you know, part of the
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Speaker 8: hubris of the progressive urban left in America has been
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Speaker 8: that Donald Trump was all washed up, he'd never come back.
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Speaker 1: And that was true until.
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Speaker 8: Of course, the elite progressive left in America did everything
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Speaker 8: it could to bring Donald Trump back and then suddenly
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Speaker 8: surprised that he looks like he's about to win the
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Speaker 8: next election. So if I was Anthony Albernezi, I would
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Speaker 8: be telling Kevin right to keep his head down, to
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Speaker 8: shut up, to bunker down, and to find a convenient
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Speaker 8: excuse to be anywhere but the ambassador's residence on election night,
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Speaker 8: because given his history of criticizing Trump in fairly undiplomatic terms,
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Speaker 8: for our top diplomat in the US, it's going to
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Speaker 8: be it's going to be a relationship that needs a
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Speaker 8: lot of smoothing over a lot of Coca colas.
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Speaker 1: Gemma, the Australian newspaper, reported this week, I couldn't believe
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Speaker 1: this margin call. Australia Post lost eighty eight million dollars.
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Speaker 1: So that's a test player funded post office and they're
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Speaker 1: showering their executives with unbelievable bonuses. One of the boss
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Speaker 1: of the Australia Post has paid almost two and a
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Speaker 1: half million dollars, got a three hundred thousand dollars cash bonus.
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Speaker 1: They lost eighty eight million this year and two hundred
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Speaker 1: million last year. You know, Canalbo forget about what CD's
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Speaker 1: sitting in in a plane and call his communications minister
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Speaker 1: in and say why are we paying these people so
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Speaker 1: much money?
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Speaker 13: No, he probably can't, to be honest. But this also
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Speaker 13: points to what I was saying before. It's not just
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Speaker 13: one thing in isolation. It's people, like Joe pointed out before.
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Speaker 1: People.
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Speaker 13: I mean, I'm in the real economy. I've run my
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Speaker 13: own company for twenty one years and I look at
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Speaker 13: that and go I've lost that. Well, I wouldn't be
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Speaker 13: in business anymore. That's the first thing. But it's not
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Speaker 13: a reward for evident, it's a reward for just existing.
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Speaker 13: And I mean, this is the same Australia Post that
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Speaker 13: no longer delivers the mail every day. So somebody, can
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Speaker 13: you riddle me this, Like, who's signing the checks who's
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Speaker 13: deciding that this is a appropriate remuneration for non performance.
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Speaker 13: It speaks to a bigger narrative of just this kind
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Speaker 13: of bloated in different organizations that are actually not accountable
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Speaker 13: for anything that resembles efficiency or outcome.
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Speaker 1: Joe, when they deliver a case of wine at my place,
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Speaker 1: I always have on the instructions leave it at the door,
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Speaker 1: because I get very thirsty, very quickly. And every time
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Speaker 1: they come there, they don't knock on the door, they
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Speaker 1: don't leave it at the door. They take it to
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Speaker 1: the post office down the road and make me go
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Speaker 1: and pick it up.
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Speaker 8: Really, that is firstly, I'm surprised it's just one case
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Speaker 8: of wine.
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Speaker 1: I liked it.
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Speaker 8: I like to order in bulk, and I must admit
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Speaker 8: they did once. I think I forgot to tick the
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Speaker 8: leave at the front door thing, and I did have
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Speaker 8: to go to my local post office, which are very
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Speaker 8: small post office and pick up about I think it
47:49
Speaker 8: was about three or four giant boxes of wine, which
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Speaker 8: tells you that I don't have a problem and it's
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Speaker 8: totally under control. And I think the postmaster there was
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Speaker 8: so furious about this ridiculous amount of car I go
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Speaker 8: that was taking up half his office. He might have
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Speaker 8: put a call in to the CEO and todd the stuff.
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Speaker 8: But again this has got overtones of Cardia watches about
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Speaker 8: it all over again. I don't understand, just why wouldn't
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Speaker 8: you learn your lesson? And again, no rules have been bridged.
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Speaker 8: There's nothing wrong, and they do have to compete with
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Speaker 8: the private sector. But you know, are you just handing yourself.
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Speaker 3: Upon delivering the mail?
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Speaker 1: Egg?
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Speaker 2: I never learned deliver the mail, baby.
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Speaker 1: No, I never learned. Joe and Jimma, thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: Great to have you with us now. Of course you
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Speaker 1: can catch a rolling coverage of America Decides twenty twenty four.
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