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Mini: Three-Card Monte · Why We Do What We Do

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  Speaker 1: your host, Abraham, I'm your host, Shame. We are a
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  Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, just wait till we get to all
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  Speaker 2: Yes, tiny, all right, it's a tiny episode.
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  Speaker 1: The tiny episode like a tiny card trick called a
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  Speaker 1: three card monty, which is what we're talking about. This
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  Speaker 1: three card monty is a famous trick. It draws people
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  Speaker 1: in with the promise of an easy way to win money.
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  Speaker 1: It is frequently depicted on TV shows and movies and
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  Speaker 1: performed on the sidewalks of busy tourist places. And we're
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  Speaker 1: going to describe it in great detail, so never you worry.
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  Speaker 1: If you hear that and you're confused about what I
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  Speaker 1: am speaking.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we got you. So you've likely seen some version
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  Speaker 2: of this somewhere. It's also called follow the Lady in
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  Speaker 2: the shell game and can be done with plastic cups. However,
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  Speaker 2: it's done. It is this. It is a sleight of
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  Speaker 2: hand illusion and there is no winning. We're gonna explain
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  Speaker 2: how it works so you can avoid it and prevent
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  Speaker 2: yourself from being scammed yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, because I want to make sure we're clear here.
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  Speaker 1: You don't beat this game. You only lose. There is
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  Speaker 1: only one outcome, and it is that you lose. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: don't even think that there's a way to win, because
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna lose. Yeah. It is designed that way specifically.
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  Speaker 1: That's why they do it. If there was a chance
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  Speaker 1: that they were going to lose, they wouldn't do it.
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  Speaker 1: There is no chance that you're gonna win, so you're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna beat the scammers. The only way you beat
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  Speaker 1: the scammers is by not playing. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: people who have revealed how this is done have gotten
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  Speaker 1: death threats. So and to be on our toes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because they don't know how to make money in an
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  Speaker 1: honest way, so they depend on scamming. Yeah. There are
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  Speaker 1: a few different variations on the setup for this trick.
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  Speaker 1: Likely scammers are frequently innovating new gimmicks, so we'll explain
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  Speaker 1: how the trick is performed with cards, But know that,
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  Speaker 1: however it appears, it is functionally the same. It's all
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  Speaker 1: the sort of like there's a hidden thing you just
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  Speaker 1: need to find. I'm going to move it around on
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  Speaker 1: the table and then you just point to where it
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  Speaker 1: is and you'll win money. You basically bet on the
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  Speaker 1: fact that you can find it, and if you do,
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  Speaker 1: then they'll pay you back your money plus whatever you
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  Speaker 1: pay them. So if you put down twenty, they give
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  Speaker 1: you your twenty plus twenty more. Yeah, they'll never do that
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  Speaker 1: because you can't win, but that's essentially the idea.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So in the standard three card Monty, you'll have
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  Speaker 2: a dealer with three cards on the table. Often the
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  Speaker 2: cards are bent vertically so that they are easy to
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  Speaker 2: pick up because their bends form a kind of tent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just kind of lightly bent.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, not too much, but enough to be able to
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  Speaker 2: be able to like shift and move around a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: You can easily grab the edges on the short side
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  Speaker 1: because it's sort of bent in the middle in the
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  Speaker 1: long way. Yeah, so it sort of looks sort of
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  Speaker 1: like a face down taco, if you will. Yes, So
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  Speaker 1: they're just kind of picking them up moving them around
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  Speaker 1: that way. Okay, So to be fair, these actually are
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  Speaker 1: not there's nothing unique about these cards. They're just regular cards.
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  Speaker 1: The trick uses slide of hands, not props, not trick cards,
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  Speaker 1: at least not usually. It's very possible there are versions
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  Speaker 1: of this that do use trick cards, but these are
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  Speaker 1: mostly just you can do it with standard cards. Most
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  Speaker 1: if not all of them do it that way. The
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  Speaker 1: dealer will usually reveal one, two, or all three cards.
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  Speaker 1: In most iterations there will only be one red queen
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  Speaker 1: and two black cards. Sometimes they use jokers instead of
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  Speaker 1: other cards, but usually it's going to be like a
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  Speaker 1: five of spades and the six of Spades and then
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  Speaker 1: the Queen of Hearts or something like that. That's sort
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  Speaker 1: of what they're going to show you. Now.
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  Speaker 2: When you arrive at the table, often a cardboard box,
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  Speaker 2: maybe with a fancy tablecloth over it. If at all,
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  Speaker 2: the game is already in motion and people are playing.
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  Speaker 2: At least one is a lookout for cops, so there
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  Speaker 2: is somebody who's kind of keeping an eye out, but
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  Speaker 2: someone is already in the game as you watch. The
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  Speaker 2: person will likely win and lose a few bets with
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  Speaker 2: a dealer. After you've seen a couple of rounds, that
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  Speaker 2: seem promising enough for you to win some money. They'll
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  Speaker 2: try to deal you in for the sake of the demonstration.
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  Speaker 2: You accept the invitation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing it hypothetically here. Yeah, So they ask
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  Speaker 1: you to bet money at this one to one pay
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  Speaker 1: out most commonly. There's other variations, but it's a really
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  Speaker 1: common one. You'll see as a one to one. So,
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  Speaker 1: as I said, you give them twenty. If you win,
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  Speaker 1: they give you twenty and then another twenty that they'll
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  Speaker 1: never do that if you can follow the card that
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  Speaker 1: is the red Queen. And again that's the standard setup.
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  Speaker 1: It could be something different. Then they'll show you the
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  Speaker 1: cards and then so you see the three cards. They
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  Speaker 1: basically turn them over so you now see the back
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  Speaker 1: of the cards, and they throw down the one that
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  Speaker 1: was the Queen on the table, so you see the
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  Speaker 1: queen go down on the table. Then they put the
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  Speaker 1: other two cards down and they do a fairly quick
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  Speaker 1: series of moves. Will the pick up the cards and
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  Speaker 1: switch their locations on the table. So they sort of
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  Speaker 1: move what was the center is now on the right,
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  Speaker 1: was on the right is now on the left, and
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  Speaker 1: they're just sort of moving them around, and you just
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  Speaker 1: have to follow where the queen was that they threw
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  Speaker 1: down initially right. They'll usually go slow enough to give
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  Speaker 1: you confidence that you followed the correct card, but fast
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  Speaker 1: enough that it looks like they're legitimately trying to confuse you.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes they just go slow to make it seem easy,
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  Speaker 1: or to play some kind of gimmick that's part of
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  Speaker 1: the show. But a lot of times it's sort of
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  Speaker 1: that blend between. It's kind of fast, but you can
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  Speaker 1: still follow it.
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  Speaker 2: You're not lost, right, And so as you confidently watch
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  Speaker 2: the queen card they throw down, once they stop, you
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  Speaker 2: pick that card. And once they stop kind of moving
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  Speaker 2: all the cards around, you pick that card, they flip
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  Speaker 2: it over, and it's an ad gotcha. And that's how
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  Speaker 2: the scammer scam. So we're talking about you're in the
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  Speaker 2: throes of playing three card Monty. You have watched them
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  Speaker 2: shuffle the cards around in that row, so they're kind
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  Speaker 2: of moving around. You're trying to identify the red queen.
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  Speaker 2: You are confident that you saw where the queen was.
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  Speaker 2: You watch them throw it down, they stop, You pick
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  Speaker 2: the card, they flip it over, revealing that it was
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  Speaker 2: the wrong card. Okay, and at this point, they may
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  Speaker 2: take your money and they may leave, or they may
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  Speaker 2: entice you to play again. If you play again, they'll
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  Speaker 2: take more of your money.
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  Speaker 1: Now that is how it goes. Yeah, Now it's part
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  Speaker 1: of the trick. Sometimes they'll bend the edge of the
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  Speaker 1: Queen card while you watch, they'll like show you the
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  Speaker 1: Queen card. They'll bend the and then this way you
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  Speaker 1: can easily follow the card which is presumably the correct
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  Speaker 1: card because you can tell, like, one big difference between
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  Speaker 1: this card and the other cards is the fact that
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  Speaker 1: this one has a bent edge, right, so pretty straightforward.
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  Speaker 1: They don't bend it a lot, but they bend it
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  Speaker 1: like noticeably enough. And then they stop, and then you
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  Speaker 1: choose the card of the bent edge, and this two
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  Speaker 1: is the incorrect card. You've chosen the wrong card again.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So the way the trick works is when they
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  Speaker 2: show you two or all three of the cards and
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  Speaker 2: then throw the Queen face down, the Queen card face
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  Speaker 2: down on the table. The way they were holding the
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  Speaker 2: cards allows them to actually throw down the other card.
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  Speaker 2: It just looks like it's the Queen. So you end
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  Speaker 2: up following the incorrect card from the very start.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so just to make sure that's clear. It's like
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  Speaker 1: they show you the cards. They're still in their hands,
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  Speaker 1: they're like face down, and they throw down in one
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  Speaker 1: of the hands. They had two cards and they throw
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  Speaker 1: down the one that looked like it was the Queen,
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  Speaker 1: but they actually did is just throw the other card.
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  Speaker 1: You just couldn't tell. And so now the first card down,
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  Speaker 1: the one that you're focused on, is not the Queen,
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  Speaker 1: and they put that one down the shuffle around, so
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  Speaker 1: you're just falling the wrong card the whole time. When
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  Speaker 1: they do the bend of the corner thing, what they
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  Speaker 1: to pull this part of the trick off. They actually
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  Speaker 1: have to practice a lot because this requires some extra
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  Speaker 1: slide of hand when they pick up the other two
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  Speaker 1: cards to show you the other two cards. When they
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  Speaker 1: do that, they'll actually use the finger placements the way
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  Speaker 1: they're holding the cards to bend the corner back on
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  Speaker 1: the Queen and bend the corner of one of the
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  Speaker 1: other cards so you don't notice that it's happening. And
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  Speaker 1: then when the cards go back down, they're just shuffling them,
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  Speaker 1: and again you're just following the wrong card. As they
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  Speaker 1: start picking them up and moving them, they're sort of
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  Speaker 1: using the same move to bend it back into place,
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  Speaker 1: and when the stop there is the card of the
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  Speaker 1: bend corner. But of course they had bend a different card.
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  Speaker 1: You just didn't see them do it because the way
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  Speaker 1: they're holding the cards allow them to do it with
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  Speaker 1: in a way that you couldn't see, and to bend
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  Speaker 1: the queen back into place. This again, it takes a
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  Speaker 1: lot of practice to be able to do this, but
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  Speaker 1: it's a slide of hand trick. That's what they do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they will also sometimes throw out one of the
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  Speaker 2: cards to make it easier for you. They'll pick up
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  Speaker 2: the three cards, show them to you, then face down
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  Speaker 2: toss out what appears to be one of the black cards,
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  Speaker 2: but it's actually the Queen. Then they'll do the shuffle
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  Speaker 2: with two of the remaining cards, neither of which are
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  Speaker 2: the Queen.
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  Speaker 1: And of course they're going to ask you to pick.
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  Speaker 1: So they're like, all right, let's make this easier for you. You
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  Speaker 1: can't do it three cards, but just do it with two.
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  Speaker 1: So there's a fifty to fifty chance you need to
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  Speaker 1: get this right. So they look at the cards, show
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  Speaker 1: them to you, throw a black card out of the game,
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  Speaker 1: but actually it was the queen, but of course it's
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  Speaker 1: face down so you don't see this. So now you're
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  Speaker 1: only ever going to pick the black cards. Slide of
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  Speaker 1: hand trick. So other variations on this trick might use
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  Speaker 1: an envelope. There's a double sided tape, both in the
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  Speaker 1: envelope and on the bottom, and they start by showing
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  Speaker 1: you that they have only two cards. They actually have three,
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  Speaker 1: but they've got they're holding one so you can't see that.
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  Speaker 1: It's like stacked on top of the other one. They're
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  Speaker 1: holding it in such a way that you can't tell
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  Speaker 1: there's two cards. And in this one there are two jokers,
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  Speaker 1: and instead what you have to do is you only
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  Speaker 1: have to find one of the two jokers and not
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  Speaker 1: find the queen. So it makes it even more likely
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  Speaker 1: the extra confidence two out of the three cards are correct,
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  Speaker 1: and so they appear to be holding only the two cards.
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  Speaker 1: So they show you one joker. Then it changes hands
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  Speaker 1: and they show you the other joker, which is that
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  Speaker 1: so just the same joker, they just put it in the
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  Speaker 1: other hand, And that's how they start with the setup
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  Speaker 1: is they're like, all right, there's these two jokers. You
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  Speaker 1: just need to find either one of these jokers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, when they open the envelope, you'll see the queen card,
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  Speaker 2: which they will remove and add to their hand of cards.
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  Speaker 2: Then they turn the cards face down, set them on
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  Speaker 2: the table, and start doing the shuffle.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So essentially what they did is they had two
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  Speaker 1: cards in their hand, presumably jokers. They pick up the
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  Speaker 1: envelope and they open it. There's a queen inside. They
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  Speaker 1: take it out, and then they add that to their car.
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  Speaker 1: There are two cards, now there's three, and then they're
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  Speaker 1: going to shuffle them around and all you have to
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  Speaker 1: do is find one of the jokers. Okay for this trick.
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  Speaker 1: What they actually did is they had two queens in
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  Speaker 1: their hand and one joker, so they were holding two cards.
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  Speaker 1: They show you a joker, the other ones a queen.
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  Speaker 1: They look like they're showing you the other card, but
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  Speaker 1: it's actually just the same joker. Then they take the
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  Speaker 1: two cards in the one hand and what they are
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  Speaker 1: holding it against the bottom of the envelope and they
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  Speaker 1: pick it up. And by the way, the queen's are
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  Speaker 1: all the same, so they're all the Queen of clubs
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  Speaker 1: or the Queen of hearts or whatever it is they have.
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  Speaker 1: They're all from different decks of cards, so but they're
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  Speaker 1: all the same queen. And so they when they pick
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  Speaker 1: up the envelope, the joker, the one joker they did
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  Speaker 1: have now sticks to the double sided tape on the
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  Speaker 1: bottom of the envelope, and they slide out the other card,
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  Speaker 1: which looked like they only had one, right uh huh.
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  Speaker 1: They slide the other card out, which is just a queen,
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  Speaker 1: but you don't know that. And so now they have
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  Speaker 1: three queens because they're holding one their hands. They pick
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  Speaker 1: up the envelope, one sticks to the bottom, they pull
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  Speaker 1: the card out with one staying behind, and then they
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  Speaker 1: pull the queen out of the envelope. They now have
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  Speaker 1: three queens in their hand, but you only saw the
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  Speaker 1: one queen and presumably two jokers. Then they basically just
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  Speaker 1: set them down and start doing the trick. So at
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  Speaker 1: this point there's virtually no way you can pick a
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  Speaker 1: joker because no zero of the three cards are jokers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So when they do the shuffle, they
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  Speaker 2: can't have as much fun with the performance as they want.
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  Speaker 2: You can't pick the right card because out of the
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  Speaker 2: game completely, and they're just kind of like messing with
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  Speaker 2: you at that point in time, like they already know
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  Speaker 2: that you they got you. Yeah, Like once you're there
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  Speaker 2: and they start shuffling, you're already you already got got.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you already lost at that point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And we mentioned that you go to the table and
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  Speaker 1: you see someone who's alread they're like in the midst
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  Speaker 1: of gambling with this person. That person isn't on it.
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  Speaker 1: They're an accomplice. You're observing someone who is winning and
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  Speaker 1: losing against the dealer, and that is a performance designed
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  Speaker 1: to give you confidence that the game is winnable. But
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  Speaker 1: they are there because they are with the dealer, and
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  Speaker 1: so the deal is going to let them presumably quote
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  Speaker 1: unquote win money because for them, they're like there's usually
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  Speaker 1: two or three people here. They're all in it for
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  Speaker 1: the pot of like however much they can get off
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  Speaker 1: of people who are willing to sit down and try
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  Speaker 1: this scam with them. So the people who are there
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  Speaker 1: are plants to make it look like they're audience members,
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  Speaker 1: and if you don't want to gamble or whatever, then
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  Speaker 1: they say that they see cops and they'll pack it
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  Speaker 1: up and they'll move. So anyway, those two people who
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  Speaker 1: are there are just are just meant to make you
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  Speaker 1: believe that the game is real, but they're actually in
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  Speaker 1: on the whole scam.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And because it's a gambling game, different people can
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  Speaker 2: bet at different times, so in the rare instance, you're
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  Speaker 2: playing a version that could technically be one one of
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  Speaker 2: the other accomplices posing as a normal person gambling like
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  Speaker 2: you will just outbid you, but usually you won't win.
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  Speaker 2: I won't let you in. And that's an important feature
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  Speaker 2: of this. They will never give you money once you've
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  Speaker 2: given some to them, so like once you bet in,
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  Speaker 2: you don't get paid out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the very important part is that once your
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  Speaker 1: money has reached their hands, that money is gone. You
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  Speaker 1: are never getting it back again. You're never getting anything
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  Speaker 1: back on top of it again. It is just gone.
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  Speaker 1: And this can be played with shells or cups or
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  Speaker 1: other things. But no matter how they do it, it
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  Speaker 1: is always rigged. It is always designed to steal your money.
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  Speaker 1: It is a sleight of hand gimmick that is meant
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  Speaker 1: to take your money. And if you give them your money,
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  Speaker 1: that money is gone. You are not getting it back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Okay, that's how three card Monti works. It's a
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: slight of hand trick. Don't ever, ever ever engage unless honestly,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to just give them the money and
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: like walk away. There's no point in like you also
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: being ah, you know, taken advantage of it. I mean
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  Speaker 1: maybe if you enjoy the thrill of seeing the slight
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: of hand and that's your thing. But otherwise, like, just
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: don't engage because there's they will take your money. You
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: cannot beat this game. It is designed for you to lose.
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: It is designed to be on beat.
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• 14:40
  Speaker 2: Shane, Hey, thanks for having me.
• 14:42
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  Speaker 2: No, I think it covers that one.
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