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S3 E4: Breaking down all the hallways that Obi-Wan has fought out of (there's more than you think!) · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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  Oh my, it's Most Things Kenobi where we always have the high
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  ground. Hi everyone, welcome to another
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  episode of Most Things Kenobi, a podcast about Obi Wan Kenobi and
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  all things Star Wars. I'm your host, Lauren.
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  And I'm your host, Leanne. And I'm excited because this is
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  another OB one episode. This is so.
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  Silly and I love it. This is great, I really enjoyed
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  researching this one. Me too, IA lot of surprises were
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  had in trying to find a total number of hallways.
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  Overwhelming. Imagine him, he's the one that
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  had to fight out all these good old Obi Wan.
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  Yeah, we're talking about hallway scenes where Obi Wan
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  fights his way out or through a hallway, which.
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  And there's, there's more than you think.
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  A lot more, yeah, way more than Luke or Vader put togethers.
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  Yes, however iconic both of their hallway scenes were.
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  Yes. Obi Wan's a very seasoned
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  hallway veteran. Just like he has the most
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  severed limbs count, he also has the best hallway scenes.
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  Most Sith defeated. Severed limbs, hallways, we
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  could go on. Yeah.
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  So yeah, all things, all things Kenobi it should be, but.
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  It's all hallways. All hallways Kenobi.
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  Oh my God, But what if we ended the show with hallways instead
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  of always? Oh my God, that is such dad
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  humor right there. May the Force be with you
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  always. Well, we'll try to remember at
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  the end. Stay tuned to the end.
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  We'll see what happens, see if we remember.
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  If our perimenopause brains can remember that.
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  All right. Well now shall we talk about
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  hallways? I think we should.
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  Oh my goodness. OK.
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  The way we went into this, at least initially, took what we
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  could off the top of our heads, right?
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  The ones that came to mind first.
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  Then we did a little digging. You probably did more digging
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  than me because you have access to Disney Plus.
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  I do not. Currently, I buy it when a new
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  show comes out. And then I have the Clone Wars
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  DVDs, but I don't have anything that plays ADVD anymore.
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  So. They're useless.
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  Same same. So I did a lot of this with
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  memory and some episode Googling.
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  Like I would go through some of the Obi Wan dual episodes and
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  try and find a hallway that I could.
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  Is this just clone wars or is this all Obi Wan?
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  No this is all Obi Wan. I found the non clone wars wants
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  to be much easier because there's less of them, but the
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  clone wars themselves is massive.
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  It's a lot. It's it's really.
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  It's a long list. And then I have questionable
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  hallways, corridors, suspended bridge, like things narrowing.
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  Ways I was watching, I was like, we could do a whole episode on
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  catwalks. Yes, because Obi Wan also finds
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  himself on precipices that are narrow and may not be considered
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  a true hallway because they're not fully enclosed.
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  Yeah, I have the same same kind of notes here.
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  Okay, let's just read what we got on our list and then go, OK,
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  let me ask you this question upfront.
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  What's your total number that you were able to come up with
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  for for this particular episode? 15-16 something like that.
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  Damn, I only have 10 and one questionable hallway.
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  I was going to say there are a few here where I asked the
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  question, will we count this because kind of, I don't know.
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  So yeah. Yes, OK.
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  Also, there are lots of scenes that take place in a hallway
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  that do not involve fighting that didn't include.
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  Those no, the fight is symbolic because we've talked about like
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  Luke in the hallway and then Ray's in a hallway, and then of
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  course Vader's in the So the hallway is symbolic of many.
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  Things and like Obi. Wan in a hallway is doubly
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  significant because he is not a cinnamon roll and you do not
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  want to encounter a non cinnamon roll in a hallway.
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  To box him in. Don't Nobody puts all we want in
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  a corner or a hallway. Now he's going to dance Dirty
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  Dancing. Exactly.
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  Him and Anakin, yeah, they're. Going to do the jump at the end
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  of Dirty Dancing, yes? Exactly the list.
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  Well, OK, do you want to start with everything else that isn't
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  Clone Wars and then go to Clone Wars?
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  Or do you want to do it vice versa?
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  Yes, that's how I did it for myself, just to keep myself
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  sane, because if I tried to put it chronologically, I think I
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  might. Oh yeah.
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  Lose my mind. Yeah, so I just did non
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  animation and then animation. So that's pretty much what I
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  did. OK, so let's do it.
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  Space Twins strike again. Indeed, a New Hope.
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  Shall we begin there? That's what I have first.
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  I do too. It's the I mean, this is the
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  original right here. Him and Vader meet in the
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  hallway at the end of what? Launches his career in a
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  hallway. That's it.
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  So how doubly significant is this?
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  Not only is he a badass, he launched his career in a
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  hallway. And it's it's very underwhelming
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  compared to lots of other versions of him, you know,
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  fighting in a hallway. But yeah, that was the first
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  one. And it's significant because he
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  actually dies in a hallway. Yeah, I mean, nothing like a a
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  snake eating its tail. He began and ended in a hallway
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  and every hallway in between. It's true.
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  Lived that moment. All right, so we have the
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  original fight with Vader and then we move on to I have the
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  Kenobi series next, just because I was thinking of things
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  rattling them off in my head and I have two hallways in Kenobi
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  series. I have 4:00.
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  Damn, what did I miss? Some might not count.
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  Well, we have the famous one of him in the hallway with the
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  troopers and Leia and with the water in the fortress.
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  Yes, there's actually 2IN that. I mean, I guess it's maybe 1
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  long extended sequence because he rescues Leia and then he's
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  fighting the Droid and a couple stormtroopers and like, that's
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  where he starts to kind of reconnect with himself and you
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  see, he does a little twirl. Yes.
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  And he's getting his mojo back. And then it goes into the I know
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  which is reborn in a hallway. I love this.
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  Besides in the hallway, Reborn in the hallway is bizarre.
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  I. Love it.
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  Star Wars and hallways, man. They're a source of infinite
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  power. It's an umbilical to something
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  new. It really is.
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  And then there's the water sequence, which, OK, I've been
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  told because I haven't played the game, I've told that that is
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  like lifted right out of the. Oh, I've been told.
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  What is the game? The one with Cal Castus, which
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  now I'm suddenly blanking on. It's something Jedi.
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  That's good. That was good.
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  I own it. I was gonna say Jedi.
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  I own it and I'm terrible at it. Yeah, it's, I've watched it
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  because it's too hard for me to play.
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  But I have a scene before that in Episode 2 where he's in that
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  Breaking Bad drug den and he fights in the hallway but with
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  his hands, which I am a particular fan of.
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  I completely forgot about that one and I should shame on me,
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  should not have forgotten it because he's using his hands.
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  It's short, but I enjoy every moment of it.
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  Yeah. The only other one I had was in
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  Jabeem against the Stormtroopers when Tala unfortunately passes
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  away. It's kind of like a tunnel
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  they're escaping, but it's definitely it would be a hallway
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  on a map. Yes, I agree and that's that
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  scene is heartbreaking because it's like it's a reflection of
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  his experience with Qui Gon. Also with the, you know, the ray
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  shield, she's she shoots the door control and he gets closed
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  out of being able to rescue her in that moment.
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  What's the other one? Well, OK, this is my question
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  mark. Does it count?
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  Not really, but kind of When at the end in Episode 6 where he's
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  fighting Vader through the cinder cones.
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  OK, I also thought about this. I also thought about this.
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  Because it feels. It's got that same feeling, but
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  it's obviously not an actual hallway.
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  I don't think it counts as a hallway, but it's significant.
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  Does Obi Wan fight better when there are physical restraints?
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  Like not restraint restraints but like when he's physically
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  minimized by some structure around him?
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  Does it cause him to? Question.
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  It's like threading the needle, a pinpoint.
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  Yeah, well, that's so interesting because they say
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  that Qui Gon kind of got killed by Maul because he was in an
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  enclosed area. And I think he practiced Ataru,
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  and Ataru is supposed to give you room to jump and leap.
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  It's like what, Yoda? Does right right?
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  And so when you're closed in a tight space, you can't fully
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  express the the form, whereas Obi Wan was trained in that and
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  then changed to Ceresu so. Fabulous.
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  I don't know, You might be on to something there.
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  I think that's a really interesting point you make,
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  because the thing I also love about this, Yeah, is that he's
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  master of Ceresu, right? Which is the defensive form
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  he's. And in fact, he's so good at it.
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  He's like impenetrable, They say.
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  Like you can fire all these laser bolts at him and he'll
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  deflect everyone. Truly.
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  But these are all examples of him being put into a tight space
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  and is forced to attack, and he's really good at it.
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  Yeah, he's really, really, really a master at handling
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  these situations that he ends up finding himself in over 15 times
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  or more documented times. Yeah, so.
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  There's almost no examples of him cracking under pressure.
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  There's it's probably just mall. And like once and it's a
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  flicker. Yeah, and like the with Vader in
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  the Kenobi series, but only when they first encounter each other.
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  And he hasn't even started using the Force yet, so.
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  Exactly. And that was he wanted to
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  protect Leia. At that point.
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  It wasn't about fighting Vader, it was about drawing him out.
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  So he had. Exactly.
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  Yeah. Didn't care if he died and he
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  was just doing his duty. Yeah.
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  Oh, he's just like Luke too. Oh Jesus, God.
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  Or the more we talk about this, the more I'm like God I love him
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  so much. That's the point of this whole
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  thing, meaning that not that not just the podcast, but the
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  episode is that he's just so damn good.
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  Yeah. All right.
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  We'll elaborate further. Let's move on to Revenge of the
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  Sith. I have two I'm questioning
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  Grievous's ship scene. I have the same question 'cause
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  it was like. Yeah, again, I guess.
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  It's like if you want to split hairs.
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  But it's not. I don't think it's a hallway.
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  I don't think it's a hallway. And it's kind of not in the
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  spirit of what we're talking about, but like I did consider
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  it because it is an extended sequence that takes it for
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  fucking ever so. But don't, don't, don't worry,
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  folks. We'll get to Grievous more in
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  the Clone Wars section of this episode.
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  True, This is very true. There's these two.
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  These two have history in hallways, which I think it's
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  hilarious because Grievous doesn't even fit in them, but
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  we'll get to that. He's always a spider in the
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  hallways, yes. Yes, he can't stand up straight.
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  No, which that's we'll get there.
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  So the other one I have is the duel on Mustafar with Anakin.
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  They move through a hallway and also a precipice and also a
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  balcony of some kind. They hit every scenario
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  possible. The tiny platform, large
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  platform, lava field, Hard Rock, it's just everything you could
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  imagine. Yeah, it's got it all.
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  This fight has everything, Stefan.
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  Yes. Yes, I wish you could have Bill
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  Hader on our show just one time so he would know how much we
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  love Stefan. Somebody e-mail him and tell him
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  we need this. That's all I have for Revenge of
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  the Sith. Do you have anything?
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  Else I I love the part I it's so short it's like that even 5
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  seconds long where they move through the actual hallway in in
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  Revenge of the Sith on Mustafar and their blades are like
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  hitting the walls as they go through.
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  It's such a cool moment. Love it, great addition.
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  I have something from Phantom Menace, I don't know if you.
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  I do too. That's my.
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  That's my next. One.
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  OK, OK. I literally only have the mall
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  versus Kenobi scene. He begins in a hallway, He's
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  locked in that corridor where he watches, and then he's then
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  released to duel with mall. And that's like a it's like a
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  kind of a atrium atrium. So I only count this as him
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  beginning the fight by exiting the hallway.
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  So, yeah, yeah. I actually have a different
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  moment because that was. Tell me.
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  I just didn't know if it qualified because like the part
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  that you're talking about, because it's like such a short
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  sequence. He has to go.
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  Which if you if which God, we could actually really get into
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  this on our own if we wanted to go back and just talk about this
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  fight as its own episode. It is such an A symbolic
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  transitional corridor in Phantom Menace when he's fighting Maul,
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  because he he comes from the large reactor room and has to go
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  through the small narrow corridor where he gets trapped.
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  And then he's released into this atrium space.
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  And it's like a transitional period where once he's gone
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  through that hallway, his life is never the same on the other
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  side of it. It's literally the Jedi birthing
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  canal. It is, it is, Sir.
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  Jedi Knights come out into the world.
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  That's it. They're born in this atrium.
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  Defeating is true. I mean, if you want to talk
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  about, you know, like how we talked about The Cave scene and
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  Empire Strikes Back, hallways themselves are symbolic.
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  That's what I mean. Yeah, that's.
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  Why Luke comes through like the whole we could do a whole
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  episode. Yeah, yeah.
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  We could, let's just, we could save a series of hallways.
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  Star Wars series of symbolic hallways MCK.
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  Well the part that I do have is a very anti climactic point in
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  my opinion. They fight in a hallway right at
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  the beginning when just in Qui Gon fight their way out of the
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  conference room. They're in the hallway fighting
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  the little droids and. You're very right.
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  That should not be discounted. You're right.
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  But it's kind of meh in my opinion.
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  I. Know, but it's still a halt way.
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  You know why I think I have trouble with that scene is
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  because when Phantom Menace first came out, and this is like
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  the way it it started and I was like, this is not as good as
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  what I was hoping. Yeah, it is.
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  Kind of a very soft landing for like an opening.
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  Well, an initial scene, if you will.
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  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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  And so it was. Yeah.
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  I think it left a bad taste in my mouth forever.
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  I've grown to love the the prequels now because of Clone
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  Wars, but it was difficult to I'll say to begin.
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  I know. I I yeah, I feel it.
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  We've come a long way. We have.
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  I think that's all I have for. Same.
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  Yep. OK, Yep.
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  So now Clone Wars. Oh boy.
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  They're so there's so. Many.
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  And we don't have them all. We.
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  We do not that we. Cannot.
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  We can't have them all. I don't know that anyone's
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  actually sat through every episode and marked them all
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  down, except for possibly Dave Filoni, but just out of just out
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  of consequence. But.
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  If someone wants to pay me to do it, I'll do it happily.
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  Watch all of clone Wars. Every second of Clone Wars to
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  just make an index of hallways. It's true, actually.
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  The Rolodex of hallways. Oh, you want a hallway?
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  We got one for you, you know. Tell me what you want I'll find,
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  but I'll find a hallway for you. What do you look for, Big
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  Lebowski? I can get you a hallway by 2:00
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  PM today. Oh my God.
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  I. Love that movie so much.
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  Anyway, I have these in no order, so you can start, I can
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  start, it doesn't matter to me. I have them in order.
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  Oh good, let's go in order then. OK, My first one is a question
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  mark and wasn't sure if you would call it qualifying in the
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  Gungan General when they're prisoners at Hondos, they don't
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  fight necessarily through the hallway, but they they creep
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  through it tied together. I don't think it quite
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  qualifies, but it's so there's no I wanted to at least mention
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  it. It is worth mentioning at any
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  they. Do knock someone out.
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  They do, and and they open up the thing and they kind of
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  weasel their way through and they use their other talents,
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  we'll say, but there's no. Dueling.
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  I'm not sure we'll just say no. How about on that?
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  It's a questionable hallway. We love it.
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  We love it and it deserves to be on here just because.
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  The next I have is blue shadow virus.
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  Not the blue shadow virus, the virus.
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  The blue shadow virus. What is that?
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  Actor's name. I just watched it yesterday, now
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  I can't remember but it's. Great.
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  Guy's such a goof, I love it. It's not a long scene but he
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  literally crashes through a ceiling down into a hallway and
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  rescues Ahsoka and it's like can I be of any?
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  Surface. Oh my God I don't have this one
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  and I love the blue shadow virus series like series of events.
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  Again, it's like the whole episode takes place in our
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  hallway corridor because they're underground.
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  So like. Trying not to breathe and all
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  this stuff. Yeah, I think it needs like, I
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  think again, ones only in a hallway like half a second, but
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  I it counts a beautiful looking second.
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  He's gorgeous, so it's worth mentioning.
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  Absolutely, Absolutely. It's on the list.
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  I don't have these in order. So I'm just, I don't if I say 1,
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  I don't know if it's going to break the order.
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  Go ahead and say one, who cares what order it's in?
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  Well, the first two I have are the two fights against Grievous.
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  So Grievous intrigue, which we've talked about.
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  In fact, I highlighted it in one of our Patreon extras as one of
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  our favorite Obi Wan moments. That moment, especially in the
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  umbilical between the two ships, has one of my favorite Obi Wan
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  lightsaber poses. Ever.
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  Yes, and I. Had Jake Bartok draw me a custom
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  piece of art of it cuz I like it that much.
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  That's correct. It's yes.
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  It's the angle of it all, really.
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  Yes, it's beautiful and he does this.
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  Weird like and he's like got a backhand at his.
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  He's doing the finger pointing, but he's all like twisted up in
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  this weird shape. And I was like, I like that.
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  I it's hot. Draw it.
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  Jake Bartok. Cut.
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  Get to it. I command.
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  It's a good one. The whole scene is great because
• 22:28
  it's ridiculous. There's a lot of pomp and a lot
• 22:31
  of questioning Grievous, like he's going to give a shit.
• 22:34
  I don't know, I love the whole thing.
• 22:36
  I do too and then it's really fun.
• 22:39
  The second one I have, I can't remember.
• 22:42
  Is it an ARC troopers? The ARC Troopers episode.
• 22:45
  OK, yes, the fight against Grievous again.
• 22:48
  He's in a freaking hallway and Grievous crawls away.
• 22:51
  Spindly little spider that he is.
• 22:53
  He's always crawling away because his height exceeds the
• 22:56
  width and height of the hallway. But I love the Arc Troopers
• 23:01
  episode. This is the one I was telling
• 23:02
  you about how I it's kind of a sneaker episode.
• 23:05
  I was thinking when I was watching this yesterday, I was
• 23:08
  like, we need to do an episode about just this episode because
• 23:11
  it's so good and there's so many little moments that I have
• 23:14
  forgotten about in it, like the seabird.
• 23:17
  Yes, the seabird, but there's so many like Anakin's great in it.
• 23:21
  We have cloned business to talk about in this episode.
• 23:25
  The setting itself is cool. We got all kinds and stuff.
• 23:28
  We got all kinds of stuff to talk about.
• 23:30
  And there's a hallway. That's a great fight in the
• 23:32
  hallway too, because it's kind of a funny interaction with
• 23:36
  Grievous, whereas before in Grievous Intrigue they're more
• 23:40
  fighting real fighting with their lightsabers, and in this
• 23:43
  one, Grievous just instead goes right for everyone's face.
• 23:48
  Yes, yes, there's a lot of the face grabbing business that Obi
• 23:51
  Wan has to go through. It doesn't bother fighting, he
• 23:54
  just grabs him by the face, smashes him into the ceiling and
• 23:57
  the the floor and tries to stomp on him.
• 24:00
  We could do a whole episode on how many times and who has
• 24:03
  grabbed this man's face angrily, you know what I mean?
• 24:05
  Please, let's do it. OK, next time we need a light
• 24:09
  episode, we'll do the aggressive handling of Obi Wan's chin.
• 24:13
  We'll add it to the list. Yes, I love those two episodes.
• 24:19
  I love anything with Grievous because he's ridiculous.
• 24:22
  And again, we're we're getting to see Obi Wan in finest form
• 24:26
  dealing with this bumbling metal fool who is Grievous.
• 24:32
  What do you have next? I have legacy of terror.
• 24:36
  Oh, yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 24:38
  That's a good one. Which?
• 24:40
  Is, I mean, once they go underground, it's basically, you
• 24:42
  know, most of the episode is bug zombies.
• 24:47
  And not only that, but it's dark and creepy and yeah, clones are
• 24:52
  getting snatched. It's great, like sci-fi horror.
• 24:56
  Yes, it reminded me a lot of some of the sequences in Alien,
• 24:59
  the way it's lit and the way. Yes.
• 25:01
  There's some jump scare type stuff.
• 25:03
  Yeah, I and again, as we've said, he's beautiful.
• 25:07
  He looks. In low, dim, bluish light, he
• 25:13
  excels. When does he not look beautiful?
• 25:17
  I mean, it's true. It's honest to, well, Baldy Wan.
• 25:23
  There's there's always that. Yeah, yeah, I will still take
• 25:28
  that over. No Obi Wan, but true, yeah.
• 25:31
  So I have to bring up the Citadel episode, one of my
• 25:34
  favorites. Which is also like just one long
• 25:37
  extended hallway. The whole, I mean, we could go
• 25:41
  through the arc itself. I think you could count.
• 25:45
  It's a little questionable, some of those rock tunnels and I
• 25:48
  think Anakin and Ahsoka are more fighting in those than say Obi
• 25:52
  Wan. But Obi Wan and the crew in the
• 25:55
  Citadel itself, they're magnetized, You know, that whole
• 25:59
  scene, one of our favorites. This is where he excels.
• 26:02
  This he's hot. He does the thing with the
• 26:05
  Force. He's true.
• 26:07
  Honestly, this is the Obi Wan in the hallway that I think of when
• 26:12
  I think of Obi Wan in a hallway. There's There was no better way
• 26:16
  to say. That strangest sentence we've
• 26:18
  ever said. There's no better way to say
• 26:21
  that. I don't think so.
• 26:23
  Someone needlepoint that on a pillow.
• 26:29
  Yes. Yeah, I know.
• 26:31
  He's the thing that I love about doing the research for this is
• 26:35
  watching how the animation gets better and better.
• 26:39
  And. They start to add intricacy in
• 26:42
  his facial expressions during all of these sequences, and this
• 26:47
  is one of the best ones because when he says they're magnetized,
• 26:50
  they do that weird like trombone zoom on him where he's his face
• 26:55
  is like all twisted up in a snarl and I love it so but.
• 26:59
  It's fantastic and Jaylen James James Arnold Taylor's like
• 27:05
  inflection is so spot on in that moment, you feel it's it's not
• 27:09
  even it doesn't even feel animated, animated.
• 27:12
  That's the thing with the. Show I know it feels real and
• 27:15
  that's I mean one of the many reasons why it's amazing.
• 27:18
  But I also I have to mention this and I forgot to mention it
• 27:21
  in the Kenobi series too. Oh.
• 27:23
  What Obi Wan has two die hard runs and one of them is in run.
• 27:30
  Oh, like run. Like John Mcclane, like where
• 27:35
  the bombs are going off and he's running, run the ball of fire.
• 27:40
  Well, that was the. He does that, yes.
• 27:43
  One of them is the water in the Kenobi series and 1 is in the
• 27:47
  Citadel. They lay a bunch of explosives
• 27:49
  and then Obi Wan sets them off and runs through them all like
• 27:52
  he's John Mcclane. So I love it.
• 27:55
  Living for it, I love it. I love it.
• 27:58
  Die hard with a vengeance, Kenobi.
• 28:01
  In a citadel Coming to a citadel near you.
• 28:07
  Instead of the tower that. They're on the.
• 28:10
  I forget the name of the business now.
• 28:12
  That and the goofy guy who runs, it's in there.
• 28:15
  Like, you know, that guy, what's his name?
• 28:19
  The guy who's just playing inside and trying to like this
• 28:23
  will get him press a button, you know, in the Citadel episode, we
• 28:27
  love his voice. OC Sopic yes, so James Arnold
• 28:32
  Taylor. I know it's.
• 28:34
  So good. Yeah, that good.
• 28:36
  I feel like this whole like the Citadel arc is just James.
• 28:39
  It's it's PO Coon, it's OC Sopic, it's Obi Wan and he gets
• 28:43
  to play all the characters. It's so good, it's.
• 28:46
  His time to shine. If you haven't heard it, go back
• 28:48
  and listen to our breakdown of the Citadel episodes.
• 28:51
  That was fun. I know we've done some really
• 28:55
  cool things on this show. There's so much weird symbolism
• 28:58
  in the color that I had never thought about.
• 29:00
  Yeah, you. Brought that to the table and
• 29:02
  that was amazing. That was really cool.
• 29:05
  I feel like I learned so much when we do this these shows.
• 29:09
  I love it. I only have one more for Clone
• 29:12
  Wars and then I have a a questionable 1.
• 29:15
  I have two more. OK.
• 29:16
  Are we going to talk about Florem?
• 29:18
  Yes. Hell yeah.
• 29:19
  That's my show. That's my favorite episode.
• 29:23
  Well, you can. Take it away.
• 29:25
  Second, second favorite, right? It's like the sequel to my
• 29:28
  favorite. You're talking about revival,
• 29:32
  right? Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes,
• 29:34
  yes. Savage and Maul versus Kenobi 2
• 29:37
  handed, taking on 2 foes in a hallway.
• 29:42
  Oh my God. Honestly I don't think he's ever
• 29:45
  been hotter until they came out with the Kenobi series ending.
• 29:51
  That is the closest competition to this.
• 29:53
  Because there's shit everyone does in this episode that you
• 29:56
  never see him do ever. It's crazy.
• 30:00
  And it goes back to your He doesn't crumble under pressure,
• 30:03
  he just adjusts. Yeah.
• 30:05
  It's truly inspiring. It's really cool and like, I'm
• 30:09
  sorry, this is super ruthless. If you watch it in slow motion,
• 30:15
  there is a scene that makes me it's like it's so fast you would
• 30:18
  never see it unless you take it frame by frame.
• 30:21
  And I got a screenshot of this by luck once.
• 30:26
  When Obi Wan cuts Savage's arm off and he just like the flip
• 30:30
  and he like lands, Savage's arm falls between Obi Wan's feet and
• 30:38
  it's just laying there like an open claw, like a Halloween
• 30:41
  hand. Savage.
• 30:44
  Savage. It's so funny.
• 30:46
  I. Mean.
• 30:47
  It's not funny, it's horrific. Well, Savage, listen, it was
• 30:51
  never meant to be with Savage, but.
• 30:53
  I know, I know. What a way to lose an arm to
• 30:56
  this man who's who's very skilled at severing limbs.
• 31:00
  And he doesn't. He just like immediately
• 31:02
  recovers and is like, doesn't blink, let's go.
• 31:05
  Yeah, yeah, back on my feet. What did I, you know, don't
• 31:08
  blink? So it's so good.
• 31:11
  Yeah, it's it's like top three hallway scenes.
• 31:14
  Yeah. Are we not ranking?
• 31:17
  Are we not ranking? These.
• 31:19
  No, I mean, again, like needle pointed on a pillow.
• 31:22
  It should be a sticker or something.
• 31:25
  I mean, it's what it's gonna be. Luke and Vader.
• 31:30
  Yeah. Are those two other two?
• 31:32
  Hallway the Luke The Luke Hallway scene in The
• 31:36
  Mandalorian. Yes.
• 31:39
  The Vader. Zader in row one, yeah.
• 31:44
  And then Kenobi Jarkai on Flora, right?
• 31:50
  Cold shower now. Yep, that's a late night for me
• 31:54
  in my brain, all three of them. We're not holding back at all in
• 32:01
  this episode, are we just. Laying it out of the episodes,
• 32:04
  if you made it to this this far in the episode, there's your
• 32:08
  present. Yeah, there's one more we
• 32:12
  haven't talked. About we Yeah.
• 32:13
  What is it? It's voyage of temptation.
• 32:16
  I know. OK, I was.
• 32:18
  Yeah, I have it. It's not under a questionable
• 32:21
  one, but I have it. I have it.
• 32:23
  Obviously, there is a bail going on.
• 32:24
  He's running up and down the hallway.
• 32:26
  He says, you know, she's not my girlfriend.
• 32:28
  But there is the moment in the hallway with Satine telling him
• 32:32
  that she loves him. And he is standing there kind of
• 32:35
  frozen and. Paralyzed.
• 32:36
  My question is, see, this is the problem I had.
• 32:40
  I'm like, do we include other people who who like technically
• 32:44
  seal the deal for Obi Wan, like Anakin who comes in and stabs
• 32:48
  the dude in the back, which we've talked about, not a kid
• 32:50
  show, but like, oh Anakin, you know, like.
• 32:55
  I like that that's the reaction he has to killing somebody.
• 32:58
  That's what you say to a child who like got icing on his face
• 33:02
  after eating the cake, not stabbing someone through the
• 33:06
  back and out the front. Have we talked about these
• 33:10
  episodes before the. Just in the kids show.
• 33:12
  I think we've never done the Obi Wan and Satine ones, but we
• 33:15
  probably should. I feel like if we at least do
• 33:18
  the ones from season 2 it would be very fun because this scene
• 33:22
  is so tricky. For him it's very tricky.
• 33:25
  He wants to save her, but if he does, he's then the thing she
• 33:30
  abhors the most. What?
• 33:32
  Does Obi want to do and he's in a hallway?
• 33:36
  And luckily, Anakin is there to like, you know.
• 33:38
  Defuse it, Yeah. Exactly.
• 33:40
  But it's such an interesting conundrum for him to be put
• 33:45
  into. It's a great scene.
• 33:47
  It's a really great episode. Yeah.
• 33:49
  But yeah, I mean, it's kind of an honorable mention because
• 33:52
  like you said, he doesn't actually do the fighting, but
• 33:54
  it's kind of an important moment where somebody actually says I
• 33:57
  love you to him and he does not. Say it back.
• 34:01
  He does not say it back. It doesn't say anything really,
• 34:04
  which is even worse. Left her hanging, left her on
• 34:07
  Red I. Know he says had you said the
• 34:10
  word, I would have left the Jedi order.
• 34:12
  So again, it's her fault that she didn't say anything.
• 34:15
  And then he, I, I'm just, yeah. Listen, we only said he was a
• 34:19
  master at defensive lightsaber techniques, not speaking to
• 34:25
  women. Old flames, I should say.
• 34:29
  Yes, yes, yeah. But still, I love that moment.
• 34:32
  And again, like James's performance is so fantastic.
• 34:36
  The subtleties of it all, Yep. Yeah, it's heartbreaking.
• 34:40
  Utterly heartbreaking. Well, this was delightful.
• 34:43
  I don't have any more. Do you have any more?
• 34:45
  I had a scene of him and Ventris on a precipice, balcony, walkway
• 34:53
  thing, a bridge. It was a cut scene from the
• 34:55
  Clone Wars that I found. It made me think about the fact
• 35:00
  that we often see him on like suspended walkways.
• 35:05
  I'm thinking like, not bridges per SE, but they could be
• 35:09
  connected walkways. There's also precipices where
• 35:14
  he's fought out to and then they escape and he's left on the
• 35:17
  precipice. Kind of like when Vader was in
• 35:18
  the hallway in Rogue One and he was left on the precipice
• 35:21
  because somebody, Leia and them got away.
• 35:23
  Yes, I can think of several of those off the top.
• 35:26
  Of my head, yeah, those don't count, but there's instances
• 35:29
  that I saw where he, like he battles CAD Bane.
• 35:33
  He's on rocks and a precipice. They roll down and fall down him
• 35:38
  and Quinlan and and CAD Bane and the whole thing.
• 35:40
  And he's always excelling on some questionable surface.
• 35:48
  And it goes back to you saying like, he doesn't ever bend under
• 35:53
  pressure. He just adjusts.
• 35:54
  And that goes for where he's located, no matter the element
• 35:58
  around him. How many times has he been on
• 36:00
  freaking Geonosis now with dust? And he's been down in the bottom
• 36:03
  in the trenches, down in down in the layer, OK, in darkness.
• 36:07
  And then he's in a hallway with water in the fortress in the
• 36:10
  Kenobi series. And yeah.
• 36:12
  I just and Lava and Revenge of the Sith.
• 36:16
  Yeah, he just. Erupting shit buildings falling
• 36:19
  apart, Tarkin harassing his ass coming out of the citadel.
• 36:22
  Like there are a number of obstacles this man has had to
• 36:27
  maneuver. Yeah.
• 36:30
  And he's handled them all fabulously.
• 36:32
  And we come right back to A New Hope, where he ended it all
• 36:36
  right, where he began it, there in a hallway.
• 36:39
  With Anna. And it makes me wonder if he, I
• 36:42
  mean, he was just buying time, right?
• 36:44
  Like he knew that was the moment he was going to die.
• 36:47
  Don't you Yank. But that's why he smiled.
• 36:50
  He wasn't that old. No, that's the thing, He wasn't.
• 36:54
  They were like he was 50s or 60s.
• 36:56
  Yeah, like not old enough to just die of elderliness.
• 37:02
  Well I mean PAD made it inside die of sadness and Obi Wan
• 37:08
  didn't die of elderliness as you said, but he died the way he
• 37:15
  wanted to, knowing that those two kids, grown as they were,
• 37:21
  were safe. So true.
• 37:25
  No matter what hallway he's been in, it's never about the
• 37:29
  hallway. It's about moving through it.
• 37:31
  It was the journey, not the destination.
• 37:34
  Oh my God, you just blew my brain open.
• 37:37
  Yeah, it's true even in that a new.
• 37:39
  Hope he's. Transitioning into a new state
• 37:42
  and he's doing it through a hallway.
• 37:45
  Threw an umbilical into the force.
• 37:49
  Truly, truly the best Jedi question mark.
• 37:56
  On this show, yes. On.
• 37:57
  This show? Hell yeah.
• 37:59
  Well, him and Luke, but the end. Yeah.
• 38:09
  OK. Our next episode, join us back
• 38:11
  here. We're going to take the Sith
• 38:13
  code and we're going to try and see it for any truths that might
• 38:18
  actually be buried in there. And then we're going to the next
• 38:21
  episode. We're going to talk about the
• 38:23
  Jedi code and try to poke holes in it and see where there's
• 38:26
  falsities in there. I don't know if I'm even
• 38:28
  describing this correctly, but we're going to start with the
• 38:31
  Sith code on the next episode and see if they were actually
• 38:34
  right about something, anything. Try and find some merit to it.
• 38:39
  Yes. And then the Jedi, while we know
• 38:42
  it starts with merit, we're going to try and see if there's
• 38:46
  not. That will be the follow.
• 38:48
  Up. It's so interesting.
• 38:49
  We're going to have to like, look at the Jedi code as though
• 38:52
  we were Sith, yes, and see it full of lies.
• 38:56
  Yes, yes, I see through the lies of the Jedi.
• 39:02
  I'm excited to try this. This is a totally different
• 39:04
  approach than a long time ago in a Galaxy far, far away.
• 39:10
  One of our first episodes was What makes a good Jedi and What
• 39:13
  Makes a good Sith? And we'll be applying those
• 39:16
  things. To see, yeah.
• 39:18
  How far we get with this? This is a little test, this a
• 39:20
  little, there's a little experiment.
• 39:22
  We'll see how far we get. So join us back here.
• 39:25
  We're starting with the Sith and then the follow up episode will
• 39:28
  be the Jedi Code, so you don't want to miss it.
• 39:32
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• 39:35
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• 40:03
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