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Treehouse Presents: Sympathy for the Devil? | Unsolicited Episode 16 · The Treehouse Show Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, Daniel Malley here from the Treehouse Show. I'd like
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  Speaker 1: to introduce you to another show I've been working on
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  Speaker 1: with our friend Rebecca Black. It's called Unsolicited. It's a
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  Speaker 1: show with hot takes and bold opinions on some really
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  Speaker 1: wild stories. And what you're about to hear is Unsolicited
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  Speaker 1: episode sixteen, titled Sympathy for the Devil. If you like it,
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  Speaker 1: give some of our other shows a listen right here
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  Speaker 1: on this platform. I've also included a couple of links
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  Speaker 1: in the show description. Thanks for listening, and now prepare
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  Speaker 1: to laugh and cringe with me Daniel Malley and Rebecca
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  Speaker 1: Black as we say what needs to be said even
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  Speaker 1: if no one asked. This is Unsolicited. You didn't ask
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  Speaker 1: for it, but you need to hear it. Hot takes
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  Speaker 1: and bold opinions today on drugging children yay in office
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  Speaker 1: or work from home. Ooh, and we'll disco foot ruin
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  Speaker 1: this show.
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  Speaker 2: I'm intrigued.
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  Speaker 1: I am too, and I know what's gonna happen. We
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  Speaker 1: are going to say what needs to be said even
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  Speaker 1: if no one asked. She is Rebecca Black, I'm Dan, O'Malley,
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  Speaker 1: and this is Unsolicited. Today we start with this can
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  Speaker 1: you go from infamy to sympathy? Kristin Cabot was caught
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  Speaker 1: in her boss's arms at a Coldplay concert last year,
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  Speaker 1: and well she's done hiding now now she now she
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  Speaker 1: is the one doing the finger pointing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, it's everyone else's fault, but hers will.
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  Speaker 1: She does take some accountability, but like I said, along
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  Speaker 1: with a little bit of that responsibility she takes, she
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  Speaker 1: starts trying to spread around some shame. That's not all hers.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Kristin Cabot, the former head of HR for Astronomer. The company,
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  Speaker 1: is airing her grievances after becoming the fodder for social
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  Speaker 1: commentary in the aftermath of getting caught, embraced her boss
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  Speaker 1: in the summer's most viral coldplate kiss ma'am Kiss cam moment.
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  Speaker 1: In her first interview since the moment made headlines, Cabot
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  Speaker 1: recounted how she felt famous figures, including celebrities like Gwyneth
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  Speaker 1: Paltrow and the co hosts of the view, made her
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  Speaker 1: humiliation their material. She told the UK newspaper The Times
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  Speaker 1: that once internet sleuths identified her and the CEO of Astronomer,
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  Speaker 1: and the original TikTok video received one hundred million views
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  Speaker 1: within days. The incident took a life of its own.
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  Speaker 1: She says, my immediate reaction was holy, s Andrew's here.
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  Speaker 1: That's what she told the news outlet, referring to her
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  Speaker 1: estranged husband, Andrew Cabot, the CEO of a rum distillery.
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  Speaker 1: We were in the middle of an incredibly and amazingly
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  Speaker 1: amicable separation. I was worried I would embarrass him. He's
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  Speaker 1: an amazing guy and does not deserve that. She continues.
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  Speaker 1: Then a beat later, my mind turns to, oh god,
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  Speaker 1: Andy's myfing boss. This is a bad look. Boston's not
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  Speaker 1: a big town. And while it wasn't an astronomer event
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  Speaker 1: or anything, there could have been investors or other staff.
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  Speaker 1: There a quick break here from the story. Rebecca, do
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  Speaker 1: you really think all those thoughts ran through her mind?
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't at all. I think she's had plenty
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  Speaker 2: of time to now think about it, and I think
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  Speaker 2: she's maybe mad that people are profiting off of something
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  Speaker 2: that she did and she's not getting a cut of it.
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  Speaker 1: That that is a solid take.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I mean, in all honesty, she's looking back
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  Speaker 2: and she's like, oh man, Gwyneth Paltrow made money off
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  Speaker 2: of me. Even the company made money off of the
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  Speaker 2: whole incident, Like there are stocks and stuff skyrocketed, So
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  Speaker 2: I guarantee you most of this is going to be
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  Speaker 2: boiling down to a money situation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Cabot and the now former astronomer CEO Andy
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  Speaker 1: Byron were with friends watching Coldplay perform in Foxboro, Massachusetts,
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  Speaker 1: on July sixteenth. God, I can't that was that long ago.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like that long ago.
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  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't at all. Wow, that was in the summertime.
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  Speaker 1: Then the JumboTron cut to Byron and Cabot cuddling in
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  Speaker 1: the crowd. The pair immediately scrambled a part upon spotting
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  Speaker 1: themselves on the big screen, prompting lead singer Chris Martin
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  Speaker 1: to remark, either they're having an affair or they're just
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  Speaker 1: very shy.
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  Speaker 2: So you know what's funny about that whole thing. If
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  Speaker 2: they had just acted normal, nobody would have known. Nobody
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  Speaker 2: would have had a clue if they weren't married, and
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  Speaker 2: that they were cheating on their spouses. If they had
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  Speaker 2: just acted normal. But the moment you duck out of
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  Speaker 2: the picture, okay, red flag Spidey senses up.
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  Speaker 1: That spotlight just got brighter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean enough for Chris Martin to chime in.
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  Speaker 1: And he nailed it. He absolutely nailed it. Was like
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  Speaker 1: he was like al Michaels calling the US hockey team
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  Speaker 1: beating the Russian team. Do you believe in miracles type
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  Speaker 1: of moment. Yeah, Chris Martin throws up there either they're cheating.
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  Speaker 1: It's like he nailed it. He absolutely nailed it.
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  Speaker 2: Did absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ever see the crowd shots, like the wide
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  Speaker 1: shots of that concert sort of from behind stage behind
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  Speaker 1: Chris Martin from a low angle, and you could look
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  Speaker 1: up into the right a little bit and see the
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  Speaker 1: pair and their embrace up in the balcony. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: even even without that light shining on them. This is
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  Speaker 1: before the moment happened, before the kiss cam happened, you
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  Speaker 1: could see them Blaine as day. It's obvious to see
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  Speaker 1: why the kiss cam went to them, because they're standing
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  Speaker 1: out at the edge of the balcony like. Look, it
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  Speaker 1: was almost like Leo and Kate in Titanic.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say that they were literally I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if you are you willing to sit there through an
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  Speaker 2: entire concert and embrace one another, absolutely the camera is
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  Speaker 2: going to come at you at some point, like, what
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  Speaker 2: are you thinking? That's weird?
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  Speaker 1: Why?
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  Speaker 2: First of all, why touching this much in public? That's weird?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And my take on it is this, both of them,
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  Speaker 1: the CEO and the head of HR and Dean Kristen,
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  Speaker 1: they both have said it was something that happened in
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  Speaker 1: the moment and we regret it. There was no long
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  Speaker 1: established affair, nothing like that. It was just a bad
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  Speaker 1: decision in the moment. I call bs on all that
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  Speaker 1: the same, they seemed quite comfortable in each other's arms,
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  Speaker 1: So I don't believe that they were not having an
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  Speaker 1: affair leading up to that moment.
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  Speaker 2: No, not at all. And like I know she said
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  Speaker 2: she was, they were already going through like the separation process.
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  Speaker 2: Why is it so difficult for people to just wait?
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  Speaker 2: Why is it so hard to just wait until the
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  Speaker 2: divorce is final so that it makes life easier and
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  Speaker 2: better for everyone when that paperwork is taken care of.
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  Speaker 1: I have a theory. Okay, So in that divorce situation,
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  Speaker 1: The way my theory works is it's kind of like
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  Speaker 1: when you're a kid in elementary school and you're counting
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  Speaker 1: down to recess and when recess and when the recess
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  Speaker 1: bell hits. What happens, You shoot out of your desk
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  Speaker 1: and you blow through those doors at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the hallway and you're running out onto the playground in
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  Speaker 1: the field, as are all the rest of the kids. Right,
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  Speaker 1: So you are not you're not just going out to recess.
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  Speaker 1: You are being unleashed upon the playground.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I get that, because you've.
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  Speaker 1: Been cooped up for like three to four hours. Right.
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  Speaker 1: That's the type of marriage that these people were probably in.
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  Speaker 1: They knew they were gonna leave it, they knew the
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  Speaker 1: marriage was going to end, they knew the divorce is
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  Speaker 1: going to happen, but they feel cooped up like they're
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  Speaker 1: in second grade math and just are counting down to recession,
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  Speaker 1: counting down to recess. Yeah, right. And so when it
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  Speaker 1: actually happens and they separate, that's when the doors to
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  Speaker 1: recess open up and the bell rings and there they go.
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  Speaker 1: They don't even wait for the official divorce papers. Okay, now,
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  Speaker 1: feel like they've been told it's okay to go do this,
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  Speaker 1: even though by low standards it's not.
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  Speaker 2: I get what you're saying. However, in the situation with Recess,
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  Speaker 2: the teacher has already announced that recess is coming in
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  Speaker 2: twenty thirty forty minutes. Right, So at the very least
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  Speaker 2: you should have made some kind of an announcement to
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  Speaker 2: your inner circle of people, like, hey, the separation is
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  Speaker 2: coming in three two one. That way, people aren't like
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  Speaker 2: questioning what you're doing with somebody else when you haven't
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  Speaker 2: actually announced a separation. Does that make sense?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, No, that totally does in my version of
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  Speaker 1: my of my off the cuff metaphor here, Yeah, is
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  Speaker 1: that your spouse is in the class with you and
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  Speaker 1: you're both looking recess.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you on that absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. So if by her words, the amicable separation going great,
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  Speaker 1: he might be doing the same thing. But he may
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  Speaker 1: not be doing it on a jumbo dron somewhere. He
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  Speaker 1: might just be doing it in quiet.
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  Speaker 2: Right, absolutely. And also the odds of going to a
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  Speaker 2: concert and like going viral are slim to none. Like
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  Speaker 2: I said, if they had just played it cool, nobody
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  Speaker 2: would have been the wiser.
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  Speaker 1: And that's the other side of my belief on this.
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  Speaker 1: They knew, yeah, so much that what they were doing
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  Speaker 1: was wrong. Their immediate reaction was the most honest.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like they caught them, They caught theirselves, if that
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  Speaker 2: makes sense. They told on theirselves.
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  Speaker 1: In order to in that situation, in order to respond
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  Speaker 1: in a calm, cool, collected manner and not draw additional
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  Speaker 1: attention to yourselves, you would have had to have you
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  Speaker 1: would have had to have rehearsed it or been through
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  Speaker 1: it before. So it's kind of like in sports, you
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  Speaker 1: practice practice, practice, so when it comes time for game now,
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  Speaker 1: it's just muscle memory.
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  Speaker 2: Right exactly. And they have not done that.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly, No, there was no practice. They went straight to
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  Speaker 1: the game and they're like, ah, if they split and
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  Speaker 1: think Chris Martin called them out and the rest is
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  Speaker 1: honestly infamy. Yeah. So, based on a little bit I've
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  Speaker 1: shared with you so far on the story about their
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  Speaker 1: situation becoming material for the view an ad for a
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  Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow to do our show and countless other shows,
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  Speaker 1: is it wrong of us to use her and her
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  Speaker 1: situation as material.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to say it's wrong, but I will
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  Speaker 2: also won't say it's right. It's definitely a blurred line
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  Speaker 2: type situation. But I'm also from the camp of like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't want people exploiting something that you've done,
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  Speaker 2: don't put it out there, like, never put yourself in
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  Speaker 2: the position of somebody recording you doing something wrong to
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  Speaker 2: incriminate you or whatever. Right, it's the same reason I
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  Speaker 2: won't get the DNA stuff like the twenty three and me.
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  Speaker 2: I ain't doing it because I don't want my DNA
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  Speaker 2: showing up somewhere along the lines of murder. Okay, that's
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing, Like, I won't do it so I
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  Speaker 2: don't get caught even if I haven't done anything, just.
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  Speaker 1: In case you decide.
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  Speaker 2: To murder something the case, I've always got that in
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  Speaker 2: my back pocket. I'm safe.
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  Speaker 1: I've gone the opposite route. I did the ancestry DNA thing.
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  Speaker 1: When that came along, there was a I think there
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  Speaker 1: was a Black Friday sale. My wife bought it, and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I'll do it. I am a
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  Speaker 1: forty six year old man who is adopted at birth
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  Speaker 1: with no knowledge or information about my biological family, and
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  Speaker 1: I was presented a Black Friday deal to throw a
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  Speaker 1: grenade into some people's lives.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, do it.
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  Speaker 1: Hell, yeah, let's drop that sucker, Let's see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Guess what come of it. No, that's the downside of
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  Speaker 1: being the grenade is that there has to be people
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  Speaker 1: on the receiving end of it, because the apparently the
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  Speaker 1: people that were involved in my conception have done a
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  Speaker 1: really good job of keeping it quiet, so much so
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  Speaker 1: that they're like, we're not taking those tests.
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  Speaker 2: So they're like me, why're not getting caught for nothing? Man?
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  Speaker 1: That's right, And so I kind of give them credit
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  Speaker 1: on that makes me think they're, you know, big picture
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  Speaker 1: thinkers like I am. So I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. That's where you got it from
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  Speaker 2: your non existent parents.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds so bad, it does, but it's okay. I'm
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  Speaker 1: semi adjusted to it. The astronomer former Cheap People Officer, which,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, I hate that I chief people officer.
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  Speaker 1: That's such a lame ass title. Anyway. Kristin Cabot, the
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  Speaker 1: astronomer former Chief People Officer, felt that the company poured
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  Speaker 1: fuel on the raging fire when they shared an ad
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  Speaker 1: featuring Gwyneth Paltrow as a temporary spokesperson shortly after the
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  Speaker 1: incident occurred. Because Paltrow was likely chosen because she was
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  Speaker 1: married to Coleplaz Chris Martin from two thousand and three
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  Speaker 1: to twenty sixteen and they share two kids.
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  Speaker 2: Together, exactly why they chose her, and.
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  Speaker 1: If memory serves me correctly, the company behind that ad
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  Speaker 1: on such a quick turnaround was none other than Maximum Effort,
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  Speaker 1: which is the company owned by Ryan Reynolds, who excel
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  Speaker 1: in these quick turnaround ad campaigns, taking advantage of a
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  Speaker 1: viral moment and extending it for a benefit. And that's
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  Speaker 1: exactly what happened here.
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  Speaker 2: It was literally a classic case of marketing one oh one.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly what you should do in this situation is exploit
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  Speaker 2: it for all its worth, and they did. And now
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  Speaker 2: it's over with lady like, move on, we've all moved on.
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  Speaker 1: Well, now she wants sympathy. She told The Times that
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  Speaker 1: she was appalled and threw away everything she owned from
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  Speaker 1: Paltrow's Goop brand.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, she threw it away.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll show her. She says. I was such a
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  Speaker 1: fan of her company, which seemed to be about uplifting women,
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  Speaker 1: and then she did this. I thought, how dare she?
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  Speaker 1: After the beating she got for all the conscious un
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  Speaker 1: coupling stuff. What a hypocrite? Ooh there it is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I do feel like though Gwyneth did a
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  Speaker 2: real good job of playing all that into her brand.
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  Speaker 2: I think she did a nice rollover after the divorce
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  Speaker 2: and into Goop. Yeah, I just I don't think you
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  Speaker 2: can be mad at what if Paltrow for cashing in
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  Speaker 2: on something. Yeah, I don't think she's just mad because
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  Speaker 2: she's not getting a payout. I guarantee you she's.
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  Speaker 1: Mad about that because, on one hand, if I was
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  Speaker 1: in her shoes, my thoughts would be, Okay, if a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of other people are making money on my situation,
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  Speaker 1: I should be too, And I don't disagree with that same. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the problem is she doesn't know how to do it right.
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  Speaker 1: She doesn't know how to monetize her her viral moment
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  Speaker 1: basically right.
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  Speaker 2: She could have started with like scandalous, a fair candle
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  Speaker 2: line or something and really could have skyrocketed and made
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  Speaker 2: some serious cash in on it.
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  Speaker 1: And not to not to mention, depending on how the
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  Speaker 1: whole thing could have or would have worked out, it
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  Speaker 1: might have been a situation there for you know, a
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  Speaker 1: lawsuit on her part against the company. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 1: all these different angles that could have would have should
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  Speaker 1: have happened. But at the end of the day, I
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  Speaker 1: think what happened was what was supposed to happen. They
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  Speaker 1: got caught, they knew they got caught, and they immediately,
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  Speaker 1: you know, tried to hide and it was all over
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  Speaker 1: from there because you can't come back from that. They
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  Speaker 1: caught you in an honest reaction and you went into hiding.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what that was your first mistake. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: if anything, learn from Like when David Letterman got caught
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  Speaker 2: cheating and somebody tried to blackmail him and then he
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  Speaker 2: just came out with all of it and they had
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  Speaker 2: nothing on him and he everybody forgave him. Right, if
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  Speaker 2: you had just gone in and been like, yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: did this really bad thing. We probably shouldn't have done this.
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  Speaker 2: We probably shouldn't have done that, but we're not going
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  Speaker 2: to hide. We're you know, they probably would have saved
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  Speaker 2: some face here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, similar to what Hugh Grant did after he got
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  Speaker 1: caught yes with a hooker in La He went on
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  Speaker 1: Leno Show and said, yeah, I did this thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very stupid. Everybody forgive me and guess what we
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  Speaker 2: all did.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it removes all that additional fodder. So this
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  Speaker 1: is what happens when you when you vacate and you
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  Speaker 1: leave a vacuum the vacuum is gonna suck something up,
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  Speaker 1: and if you're not there, it's gonna it's gonna find
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  Speaker 1: some other stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be you.
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  Speaker 1: Bye. This might be the most divisive topic we've ever
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  Speaker 1: covered on Unsolicited, really the most unexpected, yet possibly the
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  Speaker 1: most divisive. Okay, I feel like when you see this
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  Speaker 1: and hear this, you will you will think of me
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  Speaker 1: on one side of the field and Rebecca on the
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  Speaker 1: opposite side. Okay, And in the center is a game
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  Speaker 1: of disco foot, and.
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  Speaker 3: You combine soccer and dancing. It's called disco foot. Here's
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  Speaker 3: everything you need to know. Disco foot is both a
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  Speaker 3: soccer match and a dance performance. It combines the basic
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  Speaker 3: rules of soccer, but has one rather important difference. Dancing
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  Speaker 3: is required at all times.
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  Speaker 1: So for those of you listening to the Unsolicited Show podcast,
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  Speaker 1: open up your minds, yeah and listen to me, or
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  Speaker 1: take a quick break and go watch this portion on
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  Speaker 1: the YouTube side of things, because that helps you. But
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  Speaker 1: imagine a very small astro turf soccer field with a
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  Speaker 1: number of adults not really playing soccer as it is,
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  Speaker 1: They're dancing around a soccer ball.
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  Speaker 2: It's like interpretive soccer Ooh.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good way to put it. I like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, also while wearing gold lemet shorts.
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  Speaker 1: And I appreciate that the two guys doing their warm
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  Speaker 1: up stretches or maybe that was one of the dances.
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  Speaker 1: I don't but yeah, both teams are doing their own
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  Speaker 1: dances irrespective of each other, so it's not a coordinated
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  Speaker 1: dance between the two teams. Each team is doing its
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: own thing. And then occasionally someone kicks a ball, then
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: maybe it goes into a net. Now back to our
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: explanation from the package.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Continuous dance improvisation follows the soccer ball but also gives
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: merit to what is referred to as the battle, which
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: plays a vital role in winning the game. The sport
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: was created on April thirteenth, twenty sixteenth, and conceptualized for
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: the Ballet de Lorraine, a French contemporary dance company, by
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Peter Jacobson and Thomas Kyley, two dancers and choreographers who
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: have collaborated with one another since the nineties. A twenty
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: eighteen TV special called Disco Foot, written and directed by
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Jacobson and Kaylee, highlights the performance match for all to enjoy.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Each match features one referee and three artistic judges. The
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: judges assess the teams on their artistic merit, scoring them twice,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: first at halftime and then again at the end of
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: the match.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: I literally just gave the judges a lapto dance.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is how you win. This is unruly, that's
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: what this is. Look in some of the in some
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: of the dances that they're doing in the background, Yeah,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: it looks like a money python choreographed dance kind of
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: a thing.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: I just love the like, Lord's a leaping back there.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: There was that guy who was in front of the
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: wall like they're doing are they're doing a kick, you know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: and you're supposed to have the wall to protect in
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: front of the goal. Yes, And then the guy just
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: does the leaping thing across all of it, and that
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: he's not playing soccer. That guy is there to dance.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think everyone is there to dance. That's
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: certainly what it seems like. I'm not mad at the sport, though,
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I kind of like it. Well I play it, no,
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: but will I watch and laugh?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's where we find the world, that's where we
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: find ourselves. Now you won one into that field dancing
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: around like a crazy person and me on the other
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: side thinking I came to play soccer.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: But the dance comes first. Soccer is the second in
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: the in the list, so it's it's not as important.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: You're right. I mean it's there in the name disco foot.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: It's not foot disco because.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: It was foot disco. Different story.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my thing is. Look, I am a sports guy.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I like my sports. I love my sports. And if
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: you want to dance, I say dance. Dance is an
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: amazing art form. I don't need the two combined. Unless
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: you're just so happy after having scored a goal or
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: a touchdown, then you do a celebration dance. Fine, okay,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: but I don't need both at the same time.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: You want to keep it separate.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, I want. I want you to play the sport
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: and then when something great happens, you're so excited, then
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: you break out into a small dance. Fine, but I
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: don't want the halftime show and the game itself to collide.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: But they're just having a good time, Dan, Why you
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: want to squash They're fun.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Normally I'm on team you do you, but in this case,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I want you to stop.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I see nothing wrong with it. I'm here for it.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: In fact, I think the spectator portion of the game
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: is probably the most fun. Like, give me a glass
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: of champagne and I could probably watch this all day long.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: See, I can't say anything against your logic because that's
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: how most of us men watch sports already, is just
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: to drink and watch. So I can't fault your logic there.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: I'm still faulting what's happening on the field itself.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I think if you have a few more drinks, then
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: you will be a part of the game and you'll
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: enjoy yourself.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: That's going to take more tequila than exists on this planet,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: because that's not going to happen with typical liquor. That's
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: got to be special tequila stuff. You know what. Actually,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: maybe even above that, like you got to bring out
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: the official absinthe in order for me to want to
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: watch this sport it?
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Do you? What is it? What's the worst part of it?
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Is it the outfits that they're having to wear? Is
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: it the fact that there's really no competitive sport happening. Really,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: they're just dancing. It's just like a dance party, that's
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: what it is.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: If it's just and then again, I'm not against dancing.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I'm all for it. I grew up in a very
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: theatrical family while at the same time being an athlete
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: and trying to be an athlete in the middle of
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: this theatrical family, So I am a hybrid of the two. Okay,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I don't mind. I don't mind if you have a
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: play action pass followed by a Potter beret. I just
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: don't want them at the same time.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: This kind of reminds me of quiddache. Remember when everybody
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: was playing the Harry Potter game and we're like, but
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: how does it work because you can't fly.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. To me, that was silly because it's
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: suppused to dud just running around on broomsticks. It's like
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: you're not playing the sport unless you're flying around strap
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: a jetpack on your back. And now you do some
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: real quidditch.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: I mean technicality on that end. I mean I again,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I still don't understand how you play the game. I
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: get it, there's dancing, there is a soccer ball, but
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: how do you actually like score and win?
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Here we go, the judges assess the teams on their
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: artistic merit, scoring them twice, first at halftime and then
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: again at the end of the match. These scores are
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: combined with any goals scored to determine the winning team. Remarkably,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: a team can win by excelling in dance even if
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: they haven't scored any goals. A standout feature to disco
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: foot is its inclusivity. All genders are welcome on the
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: field and self expression is wholeheartedly encouraged. As the Ballet
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: de Lorraine puts it, this match doesn't have time for
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: the usual hyper masculinity attributed to football. We're just too
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: busy dancing. Would you play disco foot? Let us know
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: in the comments.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: That's my favorite line of the entire piece. We don't
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: have time for the hypermasculinity of football. We're too busy dancing.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I love it. I think it's great. I'm like you
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: do you Bravo, I'll sit in why. I don't know.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I don't know that I would play it,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: but I would definitely.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I'm the guy that if I was playing it, i'd
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: be super super angry because while everyone's dancing, I'm racking
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: up goals and it's not gonna effing matter because my
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: goals don't count at the same level as a choreographed
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: dance routine.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, have you ever witnessed, like the three and four
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: year olds playing soccer? This is an appropriate representation of
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: one of those.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Games, except choreographed.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Yes, but honestly, how can you tell if it's actually choreographed?
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: It looks to me is sometimes that everybody's doing like
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: their own thing, which is exactly what children look like
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: on the soccer field.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: A recent survey has divided the internet. Business Insider asked,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: would you prefer a two hundred and forty thousand dollars
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: a year in office job or a one one hundred
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars a year remote one? Ooh, yeah, this
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: is a This is really interesting in the findings were
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: extremely fascinating because respondents were split. Yeah, with the lower
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: paying remote job winning by one vote.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought, one vote.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: One vote. That's how closely split this was. And I
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: am kind of stunned. Five days a week in the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: office for double the amount of money than the work
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: from home gig. And we're not talking like a thirty
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: versus a sixty you know, income differential here, right, We're
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: already talking about a good paying job at one twenty
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: or two forty, which is a totally different level in
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: my mind.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree, it's a it's definitely a big
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: money difference for sure, but I think that work from
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: home has a lot of perks.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Three hundred and sixty five readers answered the informal survey
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: following a viral TikTok. One hundred and eighty three answered
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: they would choose the one hundred twenty thousand dollars remote gig,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: while one hundred and eighty two just one less chose
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: to go five days in person for double the salary
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: and follow up conversations, eight respondents, four on each side,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: explained why they made their choices. While the reader's survey
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: is not scientific, the results and the reasons people gave
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: for why they voted the way they did offer insight
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: into how workers today view those trade offs. So you
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: got one person said, if it wasn't for remote based work,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: we probably wouldn't be able to attract and retain talent
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: that we have. That's from someone who is in a
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: hiring position. You've got one respondent named Arlton. He says
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: life is meant to be lived, not to be put
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: under the microscope. He's advocating for remote work and of
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: course trying to be more open for travel. One person said,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: so much happier working from home.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with any of the reasons that have
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: been brought forth at all. I mean I've had I've
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: had both situations where I've had to go into an
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: office job, and then I've had situations where I've worked
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: at home, and being able to roll out of bed
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: and go to work is phenomenal. Yeah, there is really nice.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I'm a firm believer in if you can do the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: job just as well from home as you can in
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: the office, then there really shouldn't be that much of
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: a pay difference. Agreed Now before we're talking like a
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: five percent difference kind of a thing, and you get
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: five percent more being in the office, then yeah, I
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: think you really would get a lot more people saying no,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: I'd rather stay home, it's not worth it. Yeah.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Sure. To me.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Once you double that salary going from one twenty to
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: two forty, I am I will make that extra money
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: and buy a GD Prius to get the extra gas
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: models to get me to that five day word job
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: I will take. I want that bag that's what I am.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: I am at the age now where I'm done being
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: a man for the company and kind of stuff. I
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: am now transactional. I want the money, showed me the money,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Give me the money.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: No, I get that. I totally understand where you're coming from.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: But I also feel like, maybe you haven't worked with
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: a really, really stupid boss.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna need about five minutes to go laugh over here.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I can tell you if I had to, if I
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: had the option to avoid a certain boss for the
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: entirety of my career while working under them, I would
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: have absolutely chosen stay at home to avoid it altogether.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: I certainly understand and appreciate that perspective. When I was going,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I was like, you're going to pay me. If you
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: want me to keep going through it, you are going
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: to have to pay me. And they kind of did so.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I stayed with it for a little while, and.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: We all did.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: It worked out for the time that it did, and
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: then eventually it came to uh the unsurprising end, but
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: ultimately I at least got paid through the turmoil.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I get that. Sure. I think anybody can
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: put up with with enough awfulness if you're getting paid
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: the right amount of money.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: For sure, that's the idea, And that was also kind
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: of my negotiating uh you know standpoint. I was like, look,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: you can pay me to deal with this situation, or
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: you can deal with it. And they're like, would you
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: take what you sign here please? Yeah, find must do it.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: So you're definitely going with the money. You want more
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: money to be in office.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, I know what it's like to work for money
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and be miserable. It might be my lane. You're like,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I'm so good at it now I am. I am
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: a veteran at this. I can do it. I've done
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: it before, I can do it again. And that's just
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: how much I want some money right now.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: So but like, even though I know I've done it
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: and I could do it, and I've done it before
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: and I could do it again, I still think I'm
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: going to opt for less money to stay at home.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, if you were to reframe the question, okay, okay,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: if you were to reframe the question to being this
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: two hundred and forty thousand dollars a year working at
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: a company that's stupid five days a week in office
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: versus half that salary one hundred and twenty grand. That's
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: even not a salary. It's just me working for myself,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: doing what I want to do, day in, day out,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: without having to answer to anybody. Oh easily, Yes, keep
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the bag. I'll take my portion of it, and I
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: will live extremely happy.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I totally agree with you on that pie.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: That's my problem with the hypothetical question there, which is
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: if you want me to take the lower side, I
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: need something more attractive for me other than just I
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: get to stay at home, because just because I'm staying
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: at home, if I'm working for the same company, doing
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: the same job with two different salaries based on location
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: in office or at home, I'm still working for a
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: dumb company. Right, True, But I do.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Think it's a lot more difficult to micro manage somebody
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: when they're working from home, right I think you're I
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: think it's a lot easier to be like, hey, this
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: is your deadline, just make sure you get it done
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: within this timeframe. So have I feel like you have
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: somebody off your back? Does that make sense?
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I would if I hadn't seen and experienced people working
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: from home with the company looking and watching and tracking
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: every minute of your day.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: No, I I if anything.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because depending on the job, depending on the company,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: depending on your boss, working from home might get more
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: micro managed than if you were in the office, because
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: if I'm in the office, they think I'm in there
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: somewhere I can hide, but they're just glad to know
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I'm there.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: How many hours do you think you've spent in the
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: bathroom at the office.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, I got my mind's worth. A mom wants to
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: know if she's overreacting because her kid was given melatonin
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: at a sleepover.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. One mom on the parenting Reddit wants to know
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: if she's overreacting after another family gave her son melatonin
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: multiple times during a trip. She says in the original post,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I'm feeling so shocked and angry. My son came home
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: today from a three day vacation with his friend and
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: his family. We were all talking about his time and
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: he mentioned he's excited to sleep in his own bed,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: as he was sharing a bed with his friend during
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: the trip. We asked if he was hard to sleep with,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: and he answered with, well, nobody's snorre and we took melotonin.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: This was the first this mom had heard of it,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: She says, the way my husband and I begged his pardon.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: Our son thought we were mad at him, obviously not
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: his fault, but we weren't asked if they could give
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: him anything. Not only is she upset that they didn't
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: ask permission, she's also angry with herself for not teaching
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: her child not to take medicine from people who are
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: not his parents or his doctor. She says, I'm feeling
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: very irresponsible for not having a talk with him about this,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: never taking anything from anyone, even parents. But it just
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: didn't cross my mind. I didn't think I needed to.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: That was so incredibly stupid of me. I can't believe it.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: She also wanted reassurance that she's not overreacting.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Is she Rebecca, I don't think she is.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: I think you have to ask. I think you got
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: to say, like, hey, your kid's not sleeping, well you
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: cool if I give him a melotonin We give to
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: our kids all the time, and then you let the
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: parent make that decision. I don't think you can just
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: give a baby drugs. I mean, I understand the enticement
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: to do so, like put those kids down, yeah, knock
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: them on out. I get it.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially if you have a bunch of friends along,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: like like yeah, Like, let's imagine you're the mom, okay,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: and it's you and your husband, and you've got two kids,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and you tell them each you can bring a friend
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: on this family trip. So now you've got four kids, right.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I get it. If at some point you're like, I've
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: had it, I've had enough, it's a terrible idea. I'm
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: just gonna slip some melotonin in their sodas and then
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: enjoyed the evening.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Because at this point it's like a five day slumber party.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: It's just never going to end. And I get getting
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: to a breaking point and being like a little slippy
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: of in the milk will be fine.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I get it, But you still have to ask, Well,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: they're in there in lies the strategy, which is if
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: you're the parent who is giving the melotonin to the children, okay,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: and you've yeah, the visiting child from another family, Yeah,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: you have two options, and two options only one you
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: ask the parents of the visiting child, Hey, is it
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: okay if we knock them out with some melotonin for bed?
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Our kids take it all the time. Totally cool, but
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: we'll leave it up to you.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Then the other option is you just do it and
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: don't ask anybody. But you don't tell the kids at
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: all that you're doing it.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: That was the biggest mistake of all. You don't tell
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: those kids. You just put it in their drinks, and
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: then nobody is the wiser.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Right, you either have to be one hundred percent honest yep,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: or one hundred percent lying.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're so right. You are absolutely right about.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: It, and you're gonna have to live with the consequences
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: either way. Correct, But if done properly, the kids will never.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Know exactly everybody go nine.
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  Speaker 1: Night it is. It is kind of a frightening thing though,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: that someone would think it's okay, and this is what
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: we're talking about. Someone would think it's okay to another
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  Speaker 1: person's kid. Yeah, I know a lot of people are
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  Speaker 1: going to say, that's not the same thing. This is melotone.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: It's not like you're slipping them benzos or something.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: But no, it's a slippery slope. If you're willing to
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: do it now, who's to say you're not willing to
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: do the later with like vico in or something else.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Especially if the kids built up enough tolerance to melotone,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: then you've got to step up your pill game to
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: something more different.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Bena drill only works so many times.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: That's why I need been a drill.
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  Speaker 2: Plus, here's too far gone.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: Got bena drill on tap.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Just put it directly into my veins. It will be fine.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Timmy, where'd you learn how to shoot up?
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Like this is legit the original like dare situation, or
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: like you don't don't take candy from strangers, right, don't
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: take me melotone and from Timmy's mom.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and look I get it. That's like I do
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  Speaker 1: feel bad for this mom for feeling so responsible and
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: feeling so much guilt about not having had this discussion
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  Speaker 1: with her child, like saying, hey, you were only supposed
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: to take medicine from me or your doctor and that's it.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody else. If if Johnny's mom offers you something, you
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: say no or you have to ask me, and that's okay.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: And if they don't respect it, you call me immediately. Yeah.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: I completely understand why she wouldn't think she'd have to
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: have that conversation because it's such an astronomical thing to
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: imagine another parent giving another kid that is not theirs
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: something out of the medicine cabinet.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fascinating to me that this other mom just
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: had no idea it would be a big deal at
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: all to give somebody else's kid any type of drug whatsoever.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would probably call somebody else's parent if
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I'm just giving like Tailan All.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't give another family's kid no flintstone vitamin. No,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: even though I know it's fine and it's mostly sugar anyway,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I still wouldn't do it without asking if they're cool
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: with it exactly.
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  Speaker 2: So, I don't even I don't understand the other parent
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  Speaker 2: in the scenario, not knowing that it just isn't cool
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  Speaker 2: to offer other kids.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Drugs, right, But keep in mind, I am firmly implanted
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: on the side that it's totally okay to slip it
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  Speaker 1: to them unknowingly.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I agree. I so agree. It's one or the other.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: There is no middle ground here.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: No, I think that's enough unsolicited for today. I feel
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: like we've mildly implicated ourselves in felonious activities, not that
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: we've done them, We're just saying we're not one hundred
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: percent against them.
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  Speaker 2: Correct.
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