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Bills Roll Vikings on MNF, Tatum–Brown ‘Beef’ Brews, and Doc Rivers–Giannis Spat · The Daily Play With Joy Taylor

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to the Daily Play with Joy Taylor.
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  Speaker 2: So that was some kind of Monday night football game.
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  Speaker 1: Bills controlled the Vikings winning 23 to six in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: This was supposed to be a dogfight between two of
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  Speaker 1: the best teams in the league, but instead it was
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  Speaker 1: a very, very slow game, which eventually picked up by
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  Speaker 1: Buffalo as a, tends to be when you are on
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  Speaker 1: a backup quarterback and eventually on a backup backup when
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  Speaker 1: you get to garbage time. Buffalo is now 7-1, tied
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  Speaker 1: with the Niners for the best record in the league.
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  Speaker 1: The Vikings, on the other hand, went undefeated for the
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  Speaker 1: first two months of the season and now are 0-2
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  Speaker 1: in November. So the season kind of feels like it's
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  Speaker 1: hanging on Kyler Murray's hamstring or elastic trade. Carson Wentz
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  Speaker 1: was not good. 81 yards, two interceptions and a fumble.
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  Speaker 1: Brian Flores' defense did keep the Vikings close in the
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  Speaker 1: first half, but Wentz threw picks on both third quarter drives.
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  Speaker 1: Listen to this drive outcome list for the Vikings offense
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  Speaker 1: with Wentz at the helm. Punt, fumble, punt, punt, punt,
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  Speaker 1: field goal, field goal, interception, interception, punt, turnover on downs.
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  Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell is too good of a coach to have
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  Speaker 1: an offense this bad. I've never really been a huge
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  Speaker 1: Carson Wentz guy, but You know, it really shouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: on him at this point anyway. He is not a
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  Speaker 1: starting quarterback at this point in his career. He is
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  Speaker 1: a solid backup quarterback, but cannot be held responsible for
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  Speaker 1: keeping the Vikings afloat, especially after the season that they
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  Speaker 1: started with. I know Kevin O'Connell is a quarterback whisperer,
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  Speaker 1: but this is a defensive team that is keeping them
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  Speaker 1: competitive right now. So shout out to Brian Flores for that.
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  Speaker 1: keeping this close until the fourth quarter against a great
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  Speaker 1: Bills team.
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  Speaker 2: On the other side of the ball, Josh.
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  Speaker 1: Allen continues to build his regular season resume as the
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  Speaker 1: Bills win their fourth straight game. The Bills are the
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  Speaker 1: only team with a four-game win streak in each of
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  Speaker 1: the last seven seasons. First time they were 7-1 since
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  Speaker 1: 1993 when they went to the Super Bowl. I would
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  Speaker 1: love to see the Bills in the Super Bowl this year.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to see them get a Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: this year. I think this is a year, like it
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  Speaker 1: has really every year, the Bills.
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  Speaker 2: Need to take advantage of. Will they do it? I
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  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen is, in my opinion, an all-time great. These
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  Speaker 1: windows do not stay open forever, however. And when you're
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  Speaker 1: looking around the league this year at some of the
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  Speaker 1: major injuries that have happened, you know, windows don't last.
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  Speaker 2: As long as you think they do.
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  Speaker 1: The way the teams are set up, the way that
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  Speaker 1: the competition within your division changes, I would really love
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  Speaker 1: to see the Bills capitalize on being a great team
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  Speaker 1: this year. Like, this feels like a year that the
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  Speaker 1: Bills could get it done. And if they continue to
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  Speaker 1: play the way that they are and win in different ways,
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  Speaker 1: I think this could be an opportunity for them to
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  Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl this year, which would be
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  Speaker 1: amazing to see them here in Los Angeles. playing in
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, representing the AFC. So let's flip over
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  Speaker 1: to the NBA, where the drama is thick.
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  Speaker 2: Finally, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight, we will get the first installment of JB versus
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  Speaker 1: JT as the Celtics head to Boston to face the Sixers.
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Brown added some leaves to the tea between him
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  Speaker 1: and Jason Tatum, saying this leading up to the game
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  Speaker 1: that Tatum and him haven't talked since the trade.
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  Speaker 2: And he said it's nothing to talk about. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he's on.
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  Speaker 1: His side, I'm on my side. Just playing basketball. Both
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  Speaker 1: of us are just trying to win. So there's nothing
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  Speaker 1: to talk about. Just check the ball up. Tatum has
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  Speaker 1: tried to keep it peaceful, saying there's no beef. It's
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  Speaker 1: not about that. It should be more praise. I understand
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  Speaker 1: drama gets clicks and views, but I'm not really into that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not blaming everybody for how they feel. Everyone has
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  Speaker 1: their own feelings. We all go through different things in
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  Speaker 1: our lives. Brown had previously said, no beef, but a
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  Speaker 1: little lamb chops and some gravy.
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  Speaker 2: So....
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  Speaker 1: Seems like there's two different versions of how everything went
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  Speaker 1: down in Boston and that has all led up to tonight.
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  Speaker 1: First time these two will face off and they lead
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  Speaker 1: the top two teams in the Eastern Conference.
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  Speaker 2: The Sixers are 9-2 and the Celtics are 7-2.
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  Speaker 1: So this is exactly, exactly the kind of basketball beef
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  Speaker 1: or lamb chops, whatever it is that we need right now.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait for this matchup.
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  Speaker 1: These guys played nearly 500 basketball games together. Now they're
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  Speaker 1: going to be matched on opposite sides. And it is
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  Speaker 1: perfect that JB has embraced the villain role. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's perfect for him in Philly. I like that JT
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  Speaker 1: is trying to stay out of it. But these are
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  Speaker 1: two very big sports cities. Some of the angriest fans
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  Speaker 1: in the nation.
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  Speaker 2: Brother to brother battle. I love it. Drum that up
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  Speaker 2: for me, please.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like there needs to be more of this
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  Speaker 1: in sports, particularly in basketball. Even if it's not real beef,
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  Speaker 1: let me think that it is. Let me think there's
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  Speaker 1: some animosity going into this regular season matchup. And let
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  Speaker 1: us follow the storyline throughout the year. Like this is
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  Speaker 1: so needed. It's so important for the league. And it's
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  Speaker 1: not about fighting. It's not about like real hatred. It's
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  Speaker 1: just about competition. And yeah, maybe he does feel a
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  Speaker 1: certain type of way. that he's not there anymore. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure there is more to the story and we'll
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  Speaker 1: get it in a documentary in a couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: But for now, we know that there's something else to it.
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  Speaker 1: I love hearing that. I think this is going to
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  Speaker 1: be a great battle. And like, this is, this is
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  Speaker 1: how it should go down. JB said he should stay
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  Speaker 1: ready at all times. They played together for nine seasons.
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  Speaker 1: There was always talk about whether they should stay together,
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  Speaker 1: whether it was a successful pairing. They obviously won the
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  Speaker 1: championship and JB got the, NBA Finals MVP. I think
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  Speaker 1: that this is one of those storylines that could really
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  Speaker 1: build as the season goes on. And I look forward
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  Speaker 1: to seeing how the beef or lamb chops develops.
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  Speaker 2: But thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for giving us something to look forward to
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  Speaker 1: in this fight that is legitimate, because that is what
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  Speaker 1: basketball needs. I want to know that there's some animosity,
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  Speaker 1: even if it is A little exaggerated. Speaking of animosity,
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  Speaker 1: this is for real. Doc Rivers took a shot at Giannis.
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  Speaker 1: The two-time MVP responded negatively.
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  Speaker 2: And Doc walked it back. Happened all over the course
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  Speaker 2: of the weekend.
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  Speaker 1: So Doc Rivers, former Celtics Clippers and Bucks coach, he's
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  Speaker 1: now an analyst for Peacock, said on Bill Simmons' podcast
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  Speaker 1: that Giannis doesn't necessarily have this super IQ for basketball.
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  Speaker 1: He has really one-way downhill force force. Giannis responded after
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  Speaker 1: Miami's win over Sacramento saying, first of all, he's not
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  Speaker 1: my coach. My coach is Eric Spolstra, but Rivers is
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  Speaker 1: a guy, a coach that I've worked with in the past.
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  Speaker 2: I'm speechless. Rivers said that he claimed he meant to
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  Speaker 2: say feel for.
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  Speaker 1: The game instead of super IQ saying he was one
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  Speaker 1: of the most interesting guys. He makes unbelievable passes, but
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  Speaker 1: then at times because of his force, he plays at,
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  Speaker 1: it gets in the way of his feels more of
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  Speaker 1: a compliment.
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  Speaker 2: I hate this and feel bad about, I apologize for
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  Speaker 2: the distraction. I'm not trying to be one. Um, Look,
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  Speaker 2: here's the thing. I have a lot of respect for
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  Speaker 2: Doc Rivers.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that the criticisms of him are also
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  Speaker 1: very fair. Doc and Giannis only had one winning season together.
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  Speaker 1: Doc's only had five seasons with a losing record in
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  Speaker 1: his 27-year coaching career.
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  Speaker 2: And two of those losing seasons were with Giannis and
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  Speaker 2: the Bucs.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a lot of conversation about how Giannis left Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, Everyone's in different
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  Speaker 1: places now.
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, Giannis is with the Heat.
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  Speaker 1: What happened in Milwaukee was kind of a slow drag
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  Speaker 1: to what was inevitable because of the way that things
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  Speaker 1: were ending with the Bucs.
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  Speaker 2: But I like Doc Rivers giving Giannis a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of motivation. I was on... the Dan Levitard show last week.
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  Speaker 1: And when everything was falling and the sky was falling
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  Speaker 1: and everything was falling apart for the Miami Heat and
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  Speaker 1: everyone was coming.
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  Speaker 2: For Bam, I said, you know, a little bit of this.
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  Speaker 1: Criticism also needs to go to Giannis because Giannis is
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  Speaker 1: the superstar. Giannis is the one that is new here.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone is having to adjust to Giannis' style of play,
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  Speaker 1: which is unique. And Bam and Giannis have to find
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  Speaker 1: a way to communicate and work out their dance. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, since then they have course corrected a bit.
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  Speaker 1: They have a lot that they have to work on defensively.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that Giannis is stepping into a very
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  Speaker 1: different space in his career than he has been in.
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  Speaker 1: There is going to be a bit more criticism playing
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  Speaker 1: for the Heat than he got with Milwaukee. The Heat
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  Speaker 1: are a team that evokes animosity amongst fans. NBA fans
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  Speaker 1: and media for whatever reason. And there are some expectations
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  Speaker 1: this year. I mean, they had a really slow start
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  Speaker 1: and it's not like they didn't have time together. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I do think that more and more critics
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  Speaker 1: are going to start to come out of the woodwork
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  Speaker 1: and the heats are going to have to get on
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  Speaker 1: the same page.
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  Speaker 2: Giannis is 31.
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  Speaker 1: He's averaging 27.5 points and 12.8 rebounds in his first
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  Speaker 1: season with the Heat. They're now 4-6 after their victory
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  Speaker 1: over Sacramento. And I think Spolstra is one of, if
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  Speaker 1: not the best coach in the league.
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  Speaker 2: And I think they will figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's not the start that they expected.
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  Speaker 2: And people are going to start paying attention when.
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  Speaker 1: You have two players like Giannis and Bam and you
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  Speaker 1: have Spolstra and you have the expectations with the heat and.
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  Speaker 2: You start the season the way that you did. So yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Think Giannis is, Giannis has a lot more pressure on
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  Speaker 1: him this year than he's maybe had in all of
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  Speaker 1: his time with the Bucks. And I'm excited about it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited to see what Giannis does.
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  Speaker 2: With the Heat. Obviously, the Heat are my team.
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  Speaker 1: And I, you know, picked them to go to the finals. Sierra,
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  Speaker 1: probably the only person that did. But I think they'll
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  Speaker 1: pull it together. And I actually, well, I disagree that
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  Speaker 1: Giannis is not a high IQ, a super IQ basketball player.
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  Speaker 1: I think that this is a in a weird way,
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  Speaker 1: a good thing because it will, I think it will
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  Speaker 1: galvanize the Heat. The Heat are a team that can,
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  Speaker 1: an organization that always does really well being the villains.
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  Speaker 2: So even though he backed off of it, I.
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  Speaker 1: Anticipate more criticism to becoming the Heat's way over this
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  Speaker 1: season and how the Heat respond to it and how Giannis'
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  Speaker 1: response to it will be important because Giannis They have
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  Speaker 1: the potential, I believe, to be very good this year.
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  Speaker 1: And they're going to, for the most part, be overlooked
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  Speaker 1: unless they go into a hole like they did to
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  Speaker 1: start the season. So yeah, this is a new role
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  Speaker 1: for Giannis. It's a lot to take on. And I
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  Speaker 1: think he will because I think he's one of the
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  Speaker 1: best players on the planet. And he has one of,
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  Speaker 1: if not the best coach on the planet working with
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  Speaker 1: him now.
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  Speaker 2: So excited to see what happens. Thanks so much for
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