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Ross Fulton Analysis: What Went Wrong For The Ohio State Defense vs Texas? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: about our scheme insiders at buckeyeinsiders.com. Earlier in the week,
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  Speaker 1: we had Ross Fulton do a real deep dive on
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  Speaker 1: the Ohio State offense against Texas. Got a show from
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  Speaker 1: Michael Pettit about a day ago on the Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: defense against Texas. And now we're bringing Ross back to
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  Speaker 1: look at some other elements of the Ohio State defense
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  Speaker 1: against Texas. So this is going to kind of be
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  Speaker 1: different stuff than what Michael talked about yesterday. And welcome
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  Speaker 1: in Ross. And boy, Ross, it was an eventful game
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  Speaker 1: for Ohio State. And there was a lot of Well,
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  Speaker 1: it was good news. It was bad news. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure exactly how to feel about things, and nothing summed
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  Speaker 1: that up better than this first play. This is the
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  Speaker 1: one where they've got Cam Coleman running wide open behind
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  Speaker 1: the defense. Arch Manning throws it to him. Looks like,
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  Speaker 1: oh man, it's going to be a huge play for Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Watch the Texas crowd in this wide shot, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: You get the arms up in the air, and then
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  Speaker 1: you get right, it turns into a surrender cobra as
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  Speaker 1: the ball bounces off of Cam Coleman and directly to
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  Speaker 1: Jalen McClain. So What went wrong for Ohio State on
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  Speaker 1: this play that ended with an Ohio State interception?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, best of times, the worst of times.
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  Speaker 3: So I do think this is important, and I'm not
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  Speaker 3: just highlighting it because it's like, oh, hooray, worked out
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  Speaker 3: for Ohio State. I'm trying to provide, I think, some context.
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  Speaker 3: I know, like, you know, in your conversation with Mike,
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  Speaker 3: he talked a lot about Matt Patricia's overall strategy, which,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you see a ton of, like, three safety
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  Speaker 3: Tampa to mix of that three high safety, double buzz,
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  Speaker 3: like a pretty conservative game plan. I think some of
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  Speaker 3: that is like, you know, inherent in what Patricia does.
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  Speaker 3: Like he talks about like wanting to contain a mobile
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  Speaker 3: quarterback and Arch Manny and force him to like diagnose defenses.
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  Speaker 3: I think also like some of it was this early play, right. Where,
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  Speaker 3: I mean this, but for again, like, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: think it was somewhat of an inaccurate throw, obviously very
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  Speaker 3: bad luck for Texas in terms of what happened, but like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, this was obviously a, could have been a
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  Speaker 3: huge player right off the jump. Ohio State's in a
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  Speaker 3: cover four here. And like, you know, there's, there's obviously
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  Speaker 3: we've talked about like matching routes and cover four and
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  Speaker 3: the like, but like you are so responsible for your fourth.
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  Speaker 3: And so this, this route is designed to beat cover four.
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  Speaker 3: Cause you're like, using that in-breaking route to hold that
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  Speaker 3: safety in corner, just like happens here. And then you
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  Speaker 3: get Cam Coleman on a safety and Jalen McClain that
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  Speaker 3: has that fourth, and now he has to chase him
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  Speaker 3: from behind. I think Jermaine Matthews here, when this route
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  Speaker 3: breaks in, needs to fall back off and go back
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  Speaker 3: and play his deep zone. There should not be two
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  Speaker 3: guys covering that digger out and then leaving Jalen McClain
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  Speaker 3: out to dry. I think this, like all this kind
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  Speaker 3: of contribute, this strategy, Ohio state obviously had a lead
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  Speaker 3: as a result of these early turnovers of just play
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  Speaker 3: sort of playing a bend, but don't break for lack
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  Speaker 3: of a better word or term. And, you know, to
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  Speaker 3: some extent, like I know Mike talked about as well,
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  Speaker 3: like it did work. I mean, I think I'll talk
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  Speaker 3: somewhat about like there, Texas had, you know, plenty of
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  Speaker 3: open receivers. I think arch was inconsistent and hitting those.
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  Speaker 2: Guys in rhythm.
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  Speaker 3: Like, you know, I do think they had him, uh,
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  Speaker 3: diagnosed pretty well in the sense, like he plays very
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  Speaker 3: well out of structure, like on the move.
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  Speaker 2: Um, you know, he's dangerous with his legs.
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  Speaker 3: He can, he's definitely looking to take shots deep, but
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  Speaker 3: like in some of those, like, you know, mid range routes,
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  Speaker 3: like these, uh, or like, you know, sail routes, crossing routes,
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  Speaker 3: dig routes, like can be a struggle for him. So
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  Speaker 3: I think that all went into the strategy, but I
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  Speaker 3: do think like events like this also had an impact.
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  Speaker 3: So just, you know, providing that context as we get
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  Speaker 3: into all the problems that resulted from it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, next up, let's get into some of the
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  Speaker 1: mess because there was some mess there and Texas was
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  Speaker 1: able to run the ball at times against the Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State defense. And there were points where it just, at points,
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  Speaker 1: it kind of looked like the defensive front got pushed
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  Speaker 1: around a little bit and got moved off their spot.
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  Speaker 1: This next one seems like it's a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: an example of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we've talked about like odd verse, even fronts.
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  Speaker 3: And, and, you know, Matt Patricia has used both in
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  Speaker 3: his time at Ohio state in week one against ball state.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about like playing a lot of under front,
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  Speaker 3: which is like, you know, four down single gap, kind
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  Speaker 3: of a traditional, you know, look that from Ohio state
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  Speaker 3: on Saturday, he played a ton of odd fronts. So
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  Speaker 3: in addition to the three high safeties, you've got this
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  Speaker 3: look right where you've got a head up on the nose,
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  Speaker 3: on the center, you've got three defensive ends. This is
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  Speaker 3: basically your, your penny look, right? Like a five, one,
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  Speaker 3: three defensive tackles excuse me your two outside linebackers and
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  Speaker 3: then a mike um you know mike talked a lot
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  Speaker 3: about like you know even in odd fronts have their
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  Speaker 3: strengths and weaknesses you know texas was ready for the
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  Speaker 3: odd front like that's like the unbalance that mike showed
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  Speaker 3: right like because an odd front inherently like if you
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  Speaker 3: look at it it's because it's odd it's like you're
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  Speaker 3: you're evenly divided on each side of the center line
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  Speaker 3: right you like have the same number of players so
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  Speaker 3: like a good offensive response, which you saw from Texas is,
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  Speaker 3: you know, add bodies, like go unbalanced, add it, add
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  Speaker 3: an extra gap. Like those like insert plays that Mike
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  Speaker 3: showed or run counter. If you go back in time,
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  Speaker 3: we talked about even last year, Ohio state when their
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  Speaker 3: penny front had some problems against counter. Cause you're, you're again,
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  Speaker 3: you're creating gaps, extra bodies to one side, you know,
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  Speaker 3: post snap as opposed to, for example, unbalanced, like before
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  Speaker 3: the snap. And so you really like, if you're going
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  Speaker 3: to play this, like you, you have to do something
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  Speaker 3: up front to handle it. Like you have to either
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  Speaker 3: like try to close the gap from behind the line
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  Speaker 3: of scrimmage, like off the backside, like have that backside
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  Speaker 3: defensive end, like really chased down hard. You have to
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  Speaker 3: like squeeze down like things we talked about, like with
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  Speaker 3: Jim Knowles is here, like junk the front, like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: pinch down, force the ball to spill outside. So like
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  Speaker 3: the help can get there. Cause you're just like, you're
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  Speaker 3: playing at the light box and odd front.
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  Speaker 2: And so like, you know, yes, Texas blocks is effectively.
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  Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of discussion of how effectively Texas
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  Speaker 3: block this play, but it's like, this is like as
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  Speaker 3: easy as you could make it for the offensive line here.
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  Speaker 2: Like these single blocks are set up.
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  Speaker 3: You're just leading one-on-one on a linebacker and there's no,
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  Speaker 3: there's no help coming from the backside. Cause you're just,
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  Speaker 3: they don't even have a second linebacker there.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 3: They're playing in this three high shell. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: do think like we can get into personnel here a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more. I mean, you know, lots of criticism
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  Speaker 3: of Peyton Pierce at Mike in this game. And I,
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  Speaker 3: I don't, I think in some ways like that's deserved.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think particularly in this like odd front
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  Speaker 3: where you're putting a lot on your Mike linebacker is
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  Speaker 3: like the, the only second level defender, like that's asking
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  Speaker 3: a lot, you know, I.
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  Speaker 2: The, the, I don't think it's just as easy though.
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  Speaker 3: And it's just replaced Peyton Pierce because like TJ Alfred's
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  Speaker 3: been his backup. Like you can see here, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think he's, ready for that role either. I think they're
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  Speaker 3: two top, you know, I think the two best linebackers
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  Speaker 3: thus far have probably been Christian Allegro and Riley Pettijohn.
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  Speaker 3: The problem is they're like, they're sort of like playing,
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  Speaker 3: they're playing the same spot basically. Like they're playing that
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  Speaker 3: Sam linebacker. And so like, I don't know necessarily how
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  Speaker 3: either of them will look at Mike. Like I know
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  Speaker 3: they've practiced it, but I do think they're going to
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  Speaker 3: have to experiment a little with putting one of them there.
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  Speaker 3: it's just, it's a different from what they've asked them
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  Speaker 3: to do thus far. And so I think they, you know, we're,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to talk about, we're talking about scheme issues,
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  Speaker 3: but I also think there's personal issues, both of in
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  Speaker 3: the front seven, like both at both defensive line and linebacker.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and I think there were some spots on that
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  Speaker 1: defensive line that I came away from my rewatch of
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  Speaker 1: the game thinking it's a little different than what I was,
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  Speaker 1: it would have told you I was expecting up front. And,
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  Speaker 1: One of the things that was a pleasant surprise, continuing
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  Speaker 1: our best of times and worst of times theme, is
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  Speaker 1: I thought Jason Moore played a reasonably good game. It was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this was not, you know, All-American immediately kind
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  Speaker 1: of performance, but it was, I had gone in thinking
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  Speaker 1: maybe he was someone who they might go to if
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  Speaker 1: they got, you know, kind of deep into their bench
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  Speaker 1: and needed to put an extra body out there. But
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  Speaker 1: when he was out there, there were times that I
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  Speaker 1: noticed him and thought, man, that was a pretty nice play.
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  Speaker 1: And this next play was one of those examples.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean, I think I agree with you. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I think he's going to have to play more. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I will get into sort of I want to get
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  Speaker 3: in the mechanics, but like the scheme and personnel, you know,
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  Speaker 3: part of it, too, is like they're asked again when
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  Speaker 3: you're playing that odd front. Like last year, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they had like the quintessential zero tech nose guard and
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  Speaker 3: Caden McDonald.
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  Speaker 2: They don't really have that this year.
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  Speaker 3: Right. And so when you look at this, like we'll
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  Speaker 3: start up front, I guess, and work back. This actually
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  Speaker 3: is an under front that they're playing here. so you have,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Jason Moore's not head up over the center, right?
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  Speaker 3: He's like, you got everyone in there, the one technique,
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  Speaker 3: three techniques. So you're single gapping. Now they're still playing
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  Speaker 3: with a light box because instead of having like in
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  Speaker 3: your traditional, like under front, you have a mic and
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  Speaker 3: a will, right? So you have two linebackers back. You'll
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  Speaker 3: notice they still only have one and they're playing three
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  Speaker 3: high from the all 22. So a lot of times
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  Speaker 3: what they were doing is counting on Earl little to
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  Speaker 3: basically be the second linebacker and come down and fill.
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  Speaker 3: He does a good job of this here. He, it worked,
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  Speaker 3: it worked until it didn't. And he missed a tackle
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  Speaker 3: on the last drive. I mean, I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's still a safety. He's not Caleb down. um I
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  Speaker 3: think that's probably asking a lot of them to do
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  Speaker 3: it at the volume he did in this game I
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  Speaker 3: think it's a nice change up for them as a
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  Speaker 3: way to play with this three high look and still
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  Speaker 3: get you know a seventh run defender but like I
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  Speaker 3: think and I'll talk about this a little bit more
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  Speaker 3: I think it has to be more of a change
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  Speaker 3: up than like the main course of what they were
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  Speaker 3: doing in this game. Because it just, again, that's just
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  Speaker 3: putting a lot on like playing from depth and coming down.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think, you know, certainly Jason Moore is
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  Speaker 3: going to play more. I think in the penny look,
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  Speaker 3: I know they kind of went back and forth between
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  Speaker 3: having like Kenyatta Jackson, like here is like an edge
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  Speaker 3: guy or like more inside, like he was last year.
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  Speaker 3: Like I probably, I think he's better more in that
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  Speaker 3: four eye technique. You know, I think they can, again,
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  Speaker 3: like use the linebackers on the edge, push Jackson down.
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  Speaker 3: Cause I just think, you know, they had that look
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  Speaker 3: with a lot of times they were doing it with
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  Speaker 3: three defensive tackles in the game. And a, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think their defensive tackles are good enough to like Warren
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  Speaker 3: playing three of them at the same time. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of like the tight end discussion we've had,
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  Speaker 3: but B it's like, I mean, when they do that,
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  Speaker 3: there's just zero pass rush. Obviously like, you know, Mike
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  Speaker 3: talked about it. Like the goal again was like to
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  Speaker 3: hem arch in and keep them in the pocket, you know, and,
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  Speaker 3: and sort of spy them. And that, that worked, again,
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  Speaker 3: until it kind of didn't stop working. But I just
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  Speaker 3: think they're going to have to affect the quarterback more.
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  Speaker 3: So I, again, and like, you know, the other thing
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  Speaker 3: on defensive line is like people have pointed out on
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  Speaker 3: X and like showing the clips of Corey Wilder over
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  Speaker 3: as a nose guard and pass rush situations. And like
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  Speaker 3: he undoubtedly, I agree, like needs to play more again. It's,
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  Speaker 3: it's sort of like the petty John conversation though, about
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  Speaker 3: him at Mike. Like we've seen him in like limited
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  Speaker 3: spots as like a guy over the center, rushing the passer. Like,
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  Speaker 3: he's a defensive end. So that's a, it's a different skillset.
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  Speaker 3: So like, I think he's earned time. I guess we,
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  Speaker 3: we sort of need to see how it goes though
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  Speaker 3: with him playing like more on standard downs as like
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  Speaker 3: an actual defensive end and not just sort of like
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  Speaker 3: a specialty rush package.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I go back to Larry Johnson over the years,
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  Speaker 1: going back to even, you know, chase young when chase
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  Speaker 1: young was a freshman talking about the biggest thing for
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  Speaker 1: him is wanting to put guys in a place to
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  Speaker 1: succeed when they're young. So you're putting them out there,
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  Speaker 1: in a spot where you feel they can succeed. So
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  Speaker 1: then you see them succeed. And it's like, wow, this
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  Speaker 1: guy would succeed in every situation. Well, maybe you got
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  Speaker 1: to see, but you're, he's being put out there situationally
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  Speaker 1: in spots, but yeah, I'm with you. Definitely someone that
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  Speaker 1: you would be interested in seeing more of. So, all right,
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  Speaker 1: next up this one, I, I watched this clip and
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  Speaker 1: I thought, what the heck are they doing? Cause it
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  Speaker 1: looks like they're basically in a prevent and I went
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  Speaker 1: and looked at the clock and the corner of the screen.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, ah, okay, this is right, right before halftime. So,
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  Speaker 1: they're dropping. This is quite a deep drop out of
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  Speaker 1: the secondary, maybe, maybe a little deeper than they meant
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  Speaker 1: it to be. But, uh, it definitely, uh, if you're,
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  Speaker 1: if you're wondering why does Arch have such wide open receivers,
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  Speaker 1: it feels like that might be the answer. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: This was one of those where I got the strategy
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  Speaker 3: on sort of forcing him to make those mid range
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  Speaker 3: layered throws. This was like, they made it too easy though,
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  Speaker 3: in the sense of like, again, I guess this is
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  Speaker 3: part and parcel was sort of like a conservative bend,
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  Speaker 3: but don't break strategy. But like he was happy to
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  Speaker 3: take those check downs. Um, and like throw it underneath stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And so, yeah, they're just running three buzz, which means,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Earl little is the hook curl defender. So
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  Speaker 3: you see number one and you see like he had
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  Speaker 3: paid Pierce or at the same depth. So I assume
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  Speaker 3: that's what they want them to do, but it's just
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  Speaker 3: so deep. It's just making it easy on arch. And
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  Speaker 3: so if anything, you would have liked to have seen
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  Speaker 3: them be closer up to take away these underneath routes
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  Speaker 3: and force him to throw those layered throws between the
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  Speaker 3: two layers.
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  Speaker 2: The two levels of coverage. Um, but you know, again,
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  Speaker 2: and this just sort of.
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  Speaker 3: Goes to like, you know, too much garden grass as well.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Like that kind of bit them.
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  Speaker 3: I know Mike went through the fourth down plays, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the, the first one, it was like a
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  Speaker 3: nice play by arch to roll out and throw it back.
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  Speaker 3: But like Jay Timmons kind of got stuck with his
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  Speaker 3: feet and cement garden grass. And that was too late
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  Speaker 3: to get back to those routes. And so it was just,
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  Speaker 3: I just overall, like, again, the strategy makes sense to
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  Speaker 3: some extent. I personally am totally fine with the overall
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  Speaker 3: concept of like forcing an offense to drive the football.
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  Speaker 3: And like, I'm sure they thought like, let's see if
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  Speaker 3: Sark will really stick with the run game and the shorter,
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  Speaker 3: like dink and dunking, even when you're down and like, well,
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  Speaker 3: Arch stick with it.
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  Speaker 2: And then, you know, to their credit, they did it.
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  Speaker 3: But like Ohio State, even though they don't have the
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  Speaker 3: athletes they had last year or the year before on defense.
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  Speaker 3: And like some of that gets to the discussion of
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  Speaker 3: like sort of They're kind of in this weird place
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  Speaker 3: where they have some veteran guys who like maybe have
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  Speaker 3: a ceiling. And then they have these younger guys who
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  Speaker 3: like we just talked about a couple of them who
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  Speaker 3: like have looked good in limited spots. But now we
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  Speaker 3: got to like, can they translate that to more and more?
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  Speaker 3: This is like sort of like almost like what I've seen,
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  Speaker 3: like from Northwestern playing Ohio State, right? Where you're just like,
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  Speaker 3: we just really have to protect ourselves here. And it
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  Speaker 3: kind of like anything in life, you're going to get
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  Speaker 3: too much of a good thing. This got to be
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: too much of what they were trying to do.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: It was too extreme.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: And it just came back to bite them in the end,
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: both in the run and the pass game.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: All right. We will continue our emotional roller coaster. We
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: will go from a bad play to another good play.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: This was a nice play by Kenyatta Jackson to get
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Arch Manning down in space. It felt like Kenyatta Jackson,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: I guess not a huge surprise, but it felt like
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Kenyatta Jackson played a really solid game overall for that team.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think Kenyatta Jackson is a very good player.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: I think he was underrated last year and I think
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: he's like continuing, like, you know, he's, he's the least
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: of the problems. He, but this is like, I just,
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: you know, I know Mike talked about the need to
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: change up and use more like simulated pressures and creepers
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: on third down pass situations. And like, this is like
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: the example, like, you know, they did a very few
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Patricia did a very few times in this game, but
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: it just, I just want to point this out because it,
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: they need more of this. And so this is a,
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: they bring Allegro off the edge. Obviously Jackson drops out.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: They run basically like a quarter quarter half coverage where,
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: so you see like Devin Sanchez playing, you know, the
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: flat and Jay Timmons is deep.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: You've got then the, the quarters players on the other.
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: Side and you're just changing up the looks, right? You're
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: like getting a little bit of, Allegra is coming inside.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: And so you're, you're getting like changing the rush pass,
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: you know, like we talked about, Mike talked about for
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: ball state, how much stunting there was. And then that
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: wasn't present. Like they don't have the ability to generate
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: pressure enough. They need to affect the quarterback more. And
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: so they just, you know, Patricia has never shown a
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: lot of this thus far, but I just, they're going
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: to have to one way or the other, find more
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: of this, you know, four man fire zones, bringing five,
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: just trying to do things to, to change up the
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: looks and affect the quarterback.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: We're going to wrap up. I mean, you just talked
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: about arch, not in, in Sark, not getting greedy and
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: not taking shots downfield. This was one of those, like
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: what the heck throws. I watched this throw on the
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: field and thought, I can't wait to watch, you know,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: go back and watch the game copy and try and
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: figure out what he thought he was seeing here. Cause I,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: he threw to a receiver who had a couple of
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: defenders around him, overshot the receiver, overshot the deep guy
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: behind him. It was, this was, you know, Arch didn't
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: have too many, like, what is he looking at kind
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: of plays. This though was one of them, which I
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: guess we'll, we'll give you the credit to the Ohio
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: state defense on this one.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: He had enough, but I mean, I think, I think
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: part of it is because again, like Ohio state finally
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: changed up the look like here, they run cover one and,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: I just think they're going to need to do more
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: of this. They've got to trust the defensive backs more.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: We talked about the front seven issues or front six.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Part of it, though, I do think the defensive backs
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: are in a pretty good spot. As I said, Earl
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Little's not Caleb Downs, but I think the corners have
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: looked good. I think Jermaine Matthews, people had some question
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: marks about him. Of all the people that people had
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: question marks of, I think he's played pretty well thus far.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: And so, Again, I would just rather see Ohio State
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: like get up here, play, you know, if anything, just
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: play like your traditional over front cover one, like Ohio
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: State has done for years, you know, cover one, cover three.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: And so I do expect we'll see more of that,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: particularly this weekend. I bet we'll see a lot of
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: like middle of the field closed, more base single gap,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: you know, even front looks. Cause I think they're just
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: going to have to kind of get back to that too.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Cause they're just not good enough up front to play down,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: you know, bodies and be out gapped. Like we saw
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: on some of those run plays above Michael and myself
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: has showed they don't, they don't have the players to
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: like overcome not having like every gap be covered and be,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: you know, gapped out if you want for, you.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Know, the term.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: And, you know, so I think they think they're going
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: to need to trust their defensive backs more, play more
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: man coverage and, you know, take some more chances up front.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: All right, there you go. Another deep dive on the
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: Ohio State defense. I mean, the good news is this
• 19:11
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• 19:13
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• 19:17
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• 19:19
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• 19:22
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• 19:25
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• 19:27
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• 19:40
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