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Episode 93: Discussing a List of Star Wars Alternate Universe Scenarios - All the Happiness and None of the Pain! (Part 1 of 2) · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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  Hello there. It's most things Kenobi.
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  This is the podcast you're looking for.
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  Hi everyone, welcome to another episode of most things Kenobi.
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  A podcast about Obi-Wan Kenobi and all things Star Wars.
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  I'm your host Lauren, and I'm your host Leanne and this week,
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  we're talking about something a little different.
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  I'm actually so excited. A little different, a lot
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  different, it will depend. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  We are talking about a use, and for those of you who don't know,
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  it means alternate universe or sometimes there are also
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  referred to as headcanons. And it's basically, when a fan
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  Of something creates their own storyline or side tangent for a
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  storyline that kind of a still under the umbrella of the
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  fandom. So there Star Wars is there's a
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  ton for Star Wars everybody who watches Star Wars.
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  Has their own ideas bitch. Yeah.
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  And sometimes they're giant stories sometimes they're just I
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  simple ideas. Um yeah and we pulled a bunch of
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  people on our social media and got some ideas and that's what
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  we're talking. We're also going to talk about
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  our own headcanon. Yes. / a you things.
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  Well, some people love like a modern, a, you where it's set in
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  current times like on planet Earth for Star Wars, right?
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  You're like, oh be once a professor or something like
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  that, you know, Baker. Don't think you should be a
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  baker. That's adorable.
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  When I've heard I one time, I read a fake a long time ago.
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  Go, that was set in Chicago like in the 1920s and Obi One was
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  some like counselor to a woman who was involved with the mafia
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  have his Mercy. Right?
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  It was crazy but it was pretty good.
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  I love that. So let me start by asking, do
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  you generally enjoy a use or do you prefer like, canned and
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  compliant stories? Usually I like can and
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  compliant. Yeah, I do too.
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  A use make me a little uncomfortable and not in like a
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  weird way just in a I like them for what they?
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  I like the characters and the planets and the storyline.
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  Because I like the characters, the planets, and the storyline,
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  right? It is fun to think about it in a
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  different way, but I don't like to live in that world.
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  I'm the same. I'm exactly the same.
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  Yeah, because the reason I love the characters are for how they
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  are. So when you change it too much,
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  then they're not the character anymore.
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  So, we have had episodes here. Namely the ray.
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  Why Ray should have been a Kenobi?
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  I guess that's not canon compliant.
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  It could be considered a head Canon and extra-large head Canon
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  but it almost can and compliant but apparently the powers of be
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  changed their mind. Yes.
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  Well that's going to be one of my, one of my, a use kind of,
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  I'll talk about it. But that what like if it makes
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  sense in a storyline like in a cannon storyline, I'm for it.
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  Hmm, you know, but if we're taking all of the characters
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  will say of the prequel trilogy and putting them in a viking
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  atmosphere, it's a little strange exactly it to be when
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  you're doing that, you might as well just write your own Vikings
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  story. Which is cool.
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  I mean, it's fun to think about them in different roles that are
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  kind of like the roles they have.
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  But in a different era. Yeah, kind of.
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  But it's just like, I'm not like opposed to a user.
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  Thing like that. And sometimes I do go in search
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  for that when I'm in a mood for it, but I'm generally not in the
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  mood for that, but every now and then you find a good one that's
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  just really, super fun. Yeah, these are fun.
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  There's some really good ones on this list.
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  Oh my gosh, so many good ones and I, thank everyone for
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  participating. We had quite a lot of people
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  respond to the Instagram poll that I did, but let's start with
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  hours. What is one of your personal a
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  user headcanons? But you always, hold onto, I
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  have always held on to the fact that Luke Skywalker is raised
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  actual fucking dad. Same.
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  I mean, even though we did an episode that she's a Kenobi, I
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  still think within the cannon world, it would have made more
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  sense. Mmm pick whatever female you
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  want. Everyone knows I'm not a Mara
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  Jade fan, but even though there was a glimmer of hope that Mara
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  Jade was like now Cannon. And not just part of Legends, I
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  was for it because it would have added depth but yeah, yeah.
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  I have a lot of headcanon. About Ray and the sequel Trilogy
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  people mostly because I want to rewrite a lot of them but my
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  biggest thing was if anyone out there has ever seen.
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  Colin trevorrow, Rose concept art for what the Duel of the
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  Fates was the name of the in the sequel.
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  Instead of Rises Skywalker, I believe where Ray has the double
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  ended. Blue lightsaber.
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  Like it was all my God, you know, like the first time we see
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  it's in small or bastilla, right.
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  I guess if you want to go into the old old times, it would have
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  been so great and she's dressed in all black like Luke, and it
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  was a little bit darker. There was a fucking Guillotine
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  lightsaber, Guillotine involved in his art.
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  It's, it's just so much darker. There's talk of mortis.
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  That's my fucking egg. You just where the seals are a
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  totally different, just don't exist.
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  But like, I can look at one picture of Ray and formulate a
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  whole new story. Based on one picture from
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  Collins concept art, that kind of stuff is so great concept,
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  art and Fan. Art are huge sources of
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  inspiration. I think that I'm a very visual
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  person, even though I've right, I cannot do.
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  Ooh art but when I see something visual like that, it can be very
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  stimulating to my brain. I love that kind of.
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  Yeah much. I mean there's that picture.
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  We were just talking about of Ray with like a metal leg.
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  Oh yeah, I wrote a completely different character.
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  Based on that picture, even though it was of Ray, I wrote
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  like a different character altogether that's involved with
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  Obi-Wan. So it's like, I can see a piece
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  of art and start a headcanon instantly but another headcanon
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  I have of mine like a I don't know about a you it's not an
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  alternate universe but it kind of is Anakin had way more sex
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  before Padme. Oh interesting.
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  Honestly, though, that's not wrong like a lot more sense.
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  I've always kind of, was like, you know, I bet a lot of his
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  problems will not be solved. Just because he got laid a lot
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  more. I'm saying, like he's out on
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  missions. He, I don't even have to say, he
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  got laid. Let me rephrase it.
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  He had interactions with other women outside of padmé that were
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  flirtatious romantic, he experimented like any Young.
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  In Seoul would ya, you know, cleaning up boy.
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  Yeah. And I mean he's gonna Rebel
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  anyway, so he's doing this shit underneath like, Obi-Wan's
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  knows, I think on a few missions, he would have had a
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  drink with a girl, why not? Yeah, well, I mean, Mirage
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  syntel is yeah, one example, but it's so it's so many people said
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  this when we did our kadavo Arc and talked about that in
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  particular. Yeah, this is like, where did
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  That and it can come from exactly.
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  You see him in Attack of the Clones, he's a moron.
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  He's a bumbling fool. He's got to learn his savviness
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  from somewhere and it didn't, he did not learn it from Pat me.
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  No. So he was almost too nervous to
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  be exactly of, you know, so he would have to be around other
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  people that he didn't feel so nervous or intimidated by or
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  whatever the case may be. Yeah, that's interesting.
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  Okay, my last one, my last one you're going to love this
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  because you already know about it.
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  There is a multi-layer multi-tiered, a spa on Hoth.
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  Yes, we're the undercurrent of the Galaxy.
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  Go to Let it Loose and eat each room in the Spa's.
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  A different theme that conjures up different sins.
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  This is one of my favorite fix you ever wrote?
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  I know Lauren loves this and I'm holding on to the fact that I
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  love hot so much is because I believe that there's an actual
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  Oasis there in Form of a spa with thousands of rooms where
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  you can go and do whatever you want and you don't have to abide
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  by a Jedi Code, you don't have to abide by a bounty hunter
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  code. You don't have to abide by any
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  fucking code. The Sith can come and believe in
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  peace. If they want to, you know what
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  I'm saying? It's a do whatever you want spot
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  on Hoth. That's my head contagious.
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  But on, huh, what happens on Hoth stays on Haggadah bitch.
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  So those are like my top ones little ones.
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  Take it out. I'd like that.
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  No, I love that one. That has been one of my
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  favorites. All of all time, listen, I'll be
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  one. Everyone needs a vacation and
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  that is the kind of vacation he needs.
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  He needs to go somewhere where he is, it is permissible to do
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  and be whatever you want. So he doesn't have to feel like
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  he can just shed the cloak of the code for like a weekend.
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  He can invite City nor any woman, any man if he wants.
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  Anything goes on. Hot.
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  So whatever he wants. Yeah, it's it.
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  I like it. Oh my God.
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  What about you? I like you, I really struggled
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  to have like, any a use because I like the Canon stuff, I think
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  where my a use come in is where I feel really unsatisfied or
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  like, I don't know. Yeah, yeah.
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  I have a, it's different. It's just a little too different
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  sometimes. Yeah.
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  And like one of the ones that I like is really different and
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  would never make sense. I love the idea of see With ob1.
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  Oh yeah of course. Yes yes.
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  A lot of people like that. I don't I like the art of it.
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  Yeah I don't like the idea of it because it makes me
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  uncomfortable. It's sad.
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  Like it's really yes. And so the reason I wrote my fan
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  fiction part 3 coming soon and I'll finally wrap it up because
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  holy shit it's been years. The reason I wanted that is
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  because he never cracks and we see and it can crack.
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  We see a soaked rag on mortis like mortis was the only place
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  we could have really gotten a little dark ob1 and had it not
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  be real. Can I tell you a meme?
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  I just saw please. The meme was Anakin didn't just
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  fall to the dark side. Once this motherfucker went
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  twice and they showed Lourdes was like no he sucks so bad he
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  fell twice. He's the only Jedi in history
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  that fell twice. So funny even knew like they
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  gave him the knowledge and he still did it again.
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  Okay. Anyway, but yeah, if there was
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  ever a time that Obi-Wan was going to do it that was our
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  moment that was it? Yes.
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  Well my yeah, I really thought that the Lawless one.
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  Well, it actually, there is that moment in if you listen to
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  Stories of the Clone Wars, it's like short stories about the
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  Clone Wars. There's one that is Obi-Wan's
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  perspective from the Lawless. Hmm.
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  And I highly recommend listening to it because James Arnold
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  Taylor, James Arnold Taylor reads it nice.
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  And there is a moment where inside his mind, he does.
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  He thinks about killing mall and then killing, everyone.
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  And just, just losing it. And then, at the last second, he
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  Won't because it's not what Satine would have wanted.
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  Well, I could totally see this Yeah, and it's it wouldn't have
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  been, you know, he chose to fall to the dark side.
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  It would have been he was pushed so far that it cracked and once
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  you crack a little you can keep cracking basically.
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  Yeah. And that's what, that's what my
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  fake was about. And that's fun to explore,
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  although I think it is completely unrealistic for the
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  character. So, for a person who doesn't
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  like a use that are non-canon compliant.
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  Well, I'm guilty of writing ones.
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  I mean, they're in the list of our social media listeners and
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  responders. There are a few that I subscribe
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  to. Yeah and I'll mention it as we
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  go through. Yeah.
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  For someone who doesn't like a use.
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  There's a few a use. I really like another one.
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  That I really my heart wants in my opinion.
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  Rogue one is perfect. As it is.
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  Yes, didn't Cassius relationship is perfect.
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  Exactly how it is. Do I have a guilty pleasure
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  side? Yeah, I wish they had lived and
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  survived and I do really think they would have been sexy
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  together, but Barry. I would like part of why I have
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  trouble writing for them in particular because it's perfect.
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  The way it is. Doesn't need me?
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  Yeah, yeah, no, I get that. I get that totally.
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  Yeah. So I would love that and I also,
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  I had the idea that a totally different Like a total, a you
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  would be the Rogue one characters.
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  But set during World War Two like the underground, the the
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  rebellion in France, or like, northern Europe.
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  That could be cool. That would be Bible again, just
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  to write your own story. Exactly.
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  I mean into that, a lot of these stories are written because out
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  of necessity because we want this to be the truth, right?
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  For instance, I wrote the Luke story where he Meets a
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  completely original character who becomes Ray's mother and
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  yeah, it's because that's what I actually wanted, you know,
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  right. So I have this, I have the same.
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  I have a story. I wrote for myself, that will
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  never see the light of day, but it's ob1 in the desert meets for
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  sensitive woman. Hmm, and that's raised.
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  How does this work? They have a child who's like
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  Mary's, Luke or Relationship with Luke.
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  And that is how they end up with Ray.
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  Whoo, that was like, a lot of power.
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  So, she's half Kenobi, half Skywalker.
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  That's the, that's how I like Sokka.
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  Yeah, yeah, pretty Obi-Wan and Anakin is like granddaughter /
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  baby, sister / daughter, / adopted Kid Sister.
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  There's so many times. She is have Skywalker and have
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  Kenobi literally. So that's Our step.
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  But yeah, we've got quite a list.
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  We do. So we're going to try and zip
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  through these. We'll see where we end up.
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  I don't know if you noticed that I noticed that some of like a
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  lot of these are happier versions.
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  It's like, people really want to know they want the happy ending
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  because we rarely get it. I know it.
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  I know. Well, that's why they're fake.
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  Say it with us. Everybody Star Wars is pain.
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  Yeah, gotta get that as a tattoo, right?
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  So one of our dear friends, Leah, she has a great one.
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  It's Later. Raising Luke and Leia.
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  Yeah, that would be insane. Can you imagine Leo would go
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  dark? Almost immediately.
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  There's no holding her back. Yeah.
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  And like, does that mean raised on like Star Destroyer or later?
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  Go to Tatooine out our no. Does that mean tarkan's
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  involved? Oh God.
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  What happens to bail then? Well, I guess.
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  Okay. So Leah said that, this is a
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  story. She came up with back in the
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  day, like, when original trilogy was all, we had.
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  So there wasn't bail Organa there wasn't, you know, all the
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  stuff we got for prequels gosh, it was interested in this idea
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  from a long time ago. So I think that's that's
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  awesome. That's how I came up with my
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  Luke Story 2 was before any of this extended Universe existed.
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  So yeah, it's definitely an interesting.
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  It. Because would he rule with an
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  iron fist? Or would it spark the love for
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  Padme and their their children like Luke did in him in the
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  original trilogy? A really good question.
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  Good question. I regardless Leia is fucking
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  turning when she said to this was before they have a new Padme
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  like that's true. Mmm, the twins parents.
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  They only had one like nobody knew that's right.
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  Write the name of the it's. She said that there might have
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  been reference to it somewhere that her name was Rebecca.
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  I want to say because there was like that was like a popular
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  name at the time but maybe that was just the name she came up
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  with. I don't know I could be wrong
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  but what I mean no offense to the Rebecca's out there.
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  Hey Rebecca. But like I don't I don't see how
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  Rebecca and Padme are even close.
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  Well I know there's the that goes with crazy building Well,
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  Nick George Lucas has this weird names and then all of a sudden
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  there's Luke and been exactly. Yeah.
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  So Evan peel, Evan Evan, Steve George.
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  Luke been a fail. Bill Skywalker here, I'm a tax
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  attorney ready to help with all your needs.
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  Okay. You better read the next one
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  Billy pins wrote in and said this is a good one Chips removed
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  before Order. 66 out of all of the Clones, thus Palpatine is
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  defeated 5S lives. Clones are free.
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  Another happy ending that will never get.
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  But yeah. Interesting to think about it.
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  Had someone found it and they did like a mass like
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  deregulation of the chip or had them all surgically removed or
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  something, it could have changed the whole whole trajectory of
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  the Galaxy. Could you imagine that moment
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  where everybody just they all Palpatine thinks he has them and
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  then they all turn on him. Oh my God.
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  And all of their guns are pointed right at him at the same
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  time? Oh, yes, they could play with us
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  to the do the order 66 and you not sure if the Clones are going
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  to do it or not the right. And then Rex is day one of the
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  Jedi I am. Nope.
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  Pre-programmed clone. And then he fires first.
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  Oh my God. Yes, I love it.
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  Thank you, Patty, pans. We need to Happy Endings.
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  Yeah, we did. Okay.
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  Let's see. Bettina said, Legend stays and
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  the new Jedi Order is based off Yavin training exploring Etc.
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  Yes. I'm here for the agree.
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  Yes. Yep, I think filoni is slowly
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  trying to pull Legends into Cannon like one piece at a time,
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  really is. Yeah, I agree though, that
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  Legends is so vast and to just erase it all with the flick of a
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  magic wand. Yeah.
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  But that magic wand has Disney money.
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  So I think it's really want. You don't my head, do you guess
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  you know, my head Canon is there is no Disney wand.
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  Hey, no, but Legend stays. I do think a lot in Legends
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  could have stayed would have stayed and could work honestly.
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  Yeah, and the new Jedi Order. It makes sense to be off Yavin,
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  you know, I think it would be better, or at least have a
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  faction like a campus. Does that exist.
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  Have one off and Gavin? I know.
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  Yeah. Like Luke has his Jedi school
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  and it doesn't get burned To The Ground by his nephew and Man,
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  well, that that leads us to the very next one.
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  Oh yeah, by breath in my blood Ben doesn't die and he and they
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  establish a fully balanced force wielding order not necessarily
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  Jedi. And I think that's fantastic.
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  Actually I really, really did not want Ben to die because Ben
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  was just getting interesting. Yeah, right when he died.
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  So, I know, I, I know, they're trying to get rid of the
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  Skywalker's and any trace of them.
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  But Ben could have lived on and did just this fully balanced
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  force wielding order. Now, there's been a lot of
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  discourse lately. If you've been on Twitter about
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  the gray Jedi, there are waves of things on Twitter that come
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  and go, where people are abnormally angry about and the
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  gray Jedi seems to be like the thing that people are abnormally
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  angry about last week and so, I don't know Twitter, but in this
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  life been Ray would have been the perfect like light and dark
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  can exist and here's why they could have taught them all
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  together. And it could have been on Yavin
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  you know a blending of yeah use if you will.
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  Yeah I don't I think that because Disney was so gung ho to
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  basically rub out the Skywalker storyline that it backed them
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  into a corner of what was going to be entertaining.
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  And I know they're trying to bring new viewers in which to me
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  is insane. Well, do you don't want to
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  isolate the old fans and the original fans or the the fans of
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  the original stuff. Exact from the new clan of fans
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  coming in, there has to be a blanket.
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  I believe the term is there must be a balance.
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  Yeah, yeah in the forest and there is this technique.
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  Of having a universe, right? And it's not, I don't mean just
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  in Star Wars like a great example is Quentin, Tarantino,
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  right? All of his stories take place in
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  Quentin Tarantino Universe, right?
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  So there's self-referential. When you watch one, it
• 23:56
  references, another one and then go and watch that you're like,
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  oh, what the fuck. That's awesome!
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  It doesn't have to mean anything.
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  It's just really rewarding to the audience.
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  So, when you start to remove that out of the stories you're
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  telling, it, makes no sense marketing wise, because it
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  Actually isolates people totally instead of making them more
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  likely to pay more money to dive deeper into the fandom that
• 24:19
  you've created, but what you're doing is making single tracks.
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  So that people only want to take one path, not all the paths,
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  correct? I find it not as wise as it
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  could be granted, I'm a huge Star Wars Skywalker fancy.
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  I think Star Wars is the Skywalker's, but that's just me.
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  No, always be sorry. Sorry, not sorry, older Camp, I
• 24:45
  guess a fan, but there wouldn't be any Star Wars without the
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  Skywalker Saga. So a little reverence for it
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  would be appreciated from you and older fan like myself.
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  Yes, pardon me. I'll get off my soapbox.
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  Don't this is your podcast. You can stand on any soap box
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  for as long as you want. I'm on it with you, so don't
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  worry about it. Oh man.
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  Okay, Kendall Nelson said I love happy.
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  A I use like, if Satine had survived the Lawless I.
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  Yeah. Yep.
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  Fuck. I mean, what else do you say to
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  that? It's true.
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  It's true. Yeah, it's like it would have
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  changed a lot of stuff or maybe not.
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  I don't know. It would have changed.
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  What's going on in the Mandalorian right now.
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  If that is true, that is true. Yep.
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  Although Palpatine wanted her out of the way.
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  Anyway, so definitely He probably would have gotten his
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  way one way or another, but maybe not.
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  It's an a you we can we can have her live if we want, right?
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  Yeah, exactly. Happy ending.
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  Now, this one's interesting. Katie unravels says the Empire
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  does not fall and Luke has to cope with Vader Insidious.
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  This is interesting because I don't think it's possible for
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  Luke to cope with Vader and sidious.
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  Yeah, I would, I would enjoy watching that struggle.
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  Well, here's the thing, I'm not saying that Katie unravels.
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  A You Is Wrong. I'm saying I can't see a
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  situation where Luke doesn't die in the presence of Sidious so
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  right exactly if that were to happen.
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  Yeah that would be a struggle yes, if especially because all
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  the The Dominoes lined up just right for Richard.
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  The Jedi, so that when Luke went and saw Sidious and Vader he
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  knew which I told you the other day.
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  I want to do a whole episode about this.
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  He was either Gonna Save his father or die and knew that
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  going in. And so if you remove that
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  scenario, it makes it less likely that he's going to
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  actually get through to his father on other occasions.
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  You know, you only have like one window of opportunity for
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  somebody in the right. Emotional state.
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  Yes. And so I think you're right.
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  I think it would be much more likely That Luke would die in
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  that situation or be turned because that's ultimately
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  Sidious really wanted to replace Anakin with Luke.
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  This is Saint Luke, Luke had a body and Anakin was supposed to
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  be this amazing Sith and then his body got destroyed and he
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  got limited by what he could do. Where's Luke was fresh and young
• 27:29
  and city of so angry control of him.
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  I'm boiling over here, no pun intended but like It makes me so
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  mad to think that, like, Sidious was just going to throw his lap
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  dog of like x amount of years that he fucking brainwashed and
• 27:44
  used to get into that position. Just willy-nilly, just to
• 27:47
  replace him with his son, like, fuck off Sidious.
• 27:50
  Yeah, I know, he doesn't care about anybody doesn't, he really
• 27:53
  doesn't manipulation? He look, here's one.
• 27:58
  This one's for you which one or the next one?
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  Hmm Bettina. She understands me.
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  She does she says a rogue one survived scare.
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  If and continued all working for the rebel intelligence.
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  Yes, yes. Yes, I'm currently working on a
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  fake about this right now. Listen, the artwork for it.
• 28:19
  Coming down. The pike is fucking fantastic.
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  I saw you teased it. It's so good.
• 28:22
  I did is such a good artist. Oh my gosh.
• 28:28
  It's been delightful getting those emails with the art coming
• 28:31
  in. Will hang tight Bettina, your
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  stories comment via Lauren. Now this one is really cool.
• 28:40
  This is an a, you I can stand behind and would love to see.
• 28:44
  Whitney Wiley says, Obi-Wan in a samurai story.
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  That would be so cool. Did you see him?
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  I can I think it was. Yeah, so fucking cool.
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  They're so disciplined. And like calm and precise and
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  collected and in tune with everything and that fits Obi-Wan
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  to a T. He could be the perfect.
• 29:10
  Yeah. It just he could do it, you
• 29:13
  know, you can just be it. Yeah, well, especially
• 29:17
  considering how much the Jedi are based on.
• 29:20
  On the samurai to begin with does Hills like the exact cookie
• 29:23
  cutter that would fit into that Universe?
• 29:26
  Just beautifully. I love this idea.
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  I would love to see him in the traditional.
• 29:33
  Hmm. Yes, armor that they wear and
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  good with like a really long hair like traditional.
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  Yeah. It's a long straight hair.
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  Oh sorry. Make new noisy.
• 29:47
  This for these. They need a cold shower over
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  there. I do.
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  Just looks so good in my brain. Oh man.
• 29:56
  Very unique said, Obie One leaves.
• 29:59
  The Jedi for stettin, a you Satine lives, are you Anakin
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  doesn't turn sipeo, so all happy endings.
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  All of these would have to happen at once because yeah,
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  pretty much. If Obi-Wan leaves for the Jedi
• 30:14
  for Satine, Satine lives. They live happily ever after
• 30:18
  then. Anakin's like fuck this shit.
• 30:20
  I'm gonna go with Padme, he doesn't turn everyone lives
• 30:23
  happily ever after and Ahsoka is confused.
• 30:25
  But she just gets to go back and forth between their houses.
• 30:30
  Thank you. Yeah.
• 30:31
  I hope I'm yes. I'm with Obi-Wan this weekend
• 30:34
  and Satine and I'll see you in a bit.
• 30:36
  You Padme Anakin everyone in the kids next weekend.
• 30:39
  Yeah honestly I do feel like they would have all been better
• 30:42
  off if they just left the Jedi Order for Chris Lee's.
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  Hmm, you know it. Yeah I just I love it because
• 30:51
  it's happy. Yeah, it's a nice little ray of
• 30:55
  sunshine to step into. Honestly, it gives the
• 30:58
  characters the happiness that they deserved and didn't get.
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  Yeah. Mhm.
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  Which I'm always for In fact, I'm going to just skip ahead
• 31:08
  real quick to snip some 005 who says Anakin raises Luke and
• 31:12
  Leia, that is something I always wanted.
• 31:15
  There is so much good fan art out there of Anakin Padme.
• 31:19
  They're both alive, they're raising their kids.
• 31:21
  They're happy stable. Family unit.
• 31:26
  Yeah, Obi-Wan's. Like the uncle ahsoka's like the
• 31:29
  ant, you know, and everyone's invited over for dinner on
• 31:35
  Sunday and then Go to the beach. That's right.
• 31:38
  They do go to the beach. There's a lot of art of them
• 31:41
  playing in the sand bearing. Obi-Wan up to his neck.
• 31:44
  I love it. Okay.
• 31:46
  Mia is doodling said, this is also cut from my cloth ob1 falls
• 31:53
  to the dark side. Probably after the Lawless and
• 31:56
  Anakin has to stop him a. You isn't that literally what
• 32:00
  you're trying to write? Yeah, I messaged her and I was
• 32:03
  like, I have a fake right now. Yes, it's so good though and I
• 32:12
  love the idea of Anakin being The Rescuer instead of Obi-Wan
• 32:16
  being, the one who has to pull Anakin back.
• 32:19
  Anakin in a power position to pull his best friend out of
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  something is a cool twist. I think that would be one of the
• 32:27
  ways to save him from turning exactly.
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  Yes, to make him care more about saving someone else than saving
• 32:36
  like Like if Padme was safe and he had the responsibility of
• 32:40
  saving Obi-Wan from the Dark Side, because then you would see
• 32:45
  like that pain of losing someone to the dark side.
• 32:47
  Yeah, I think that would be the thing that would save him
• 32:50
  totally. I love this.
• 32:51
  I love this one. These are also good.
• 32:53
  These all have roots in Star Wars where they could blossom
• 32:58
  into something. Beautiful all of these.
• 33:00
  Yeah, that's why this is fun to like dip your toe into because
• 33:05
  it was actually really hard. To see so many people having
• 33:09
  such nice positive. Not that, we don't dislike the
• 33:13
  dark stuff because you, and I both love dark stuff, but it was
• 33:16
  just like, oh, these are all so nice.
• 33:18
  Yeah. So next week we will do part two
• 33:27
  of this episode because we have more a use to discuss from our
• 33:30
  listeners and viewers and their the the greatness continues,
• 33:34
  there's a lot of fun stuff. We Haven't talked about yet and
• 33:37
  I can't wait to read the rest of them.
• 33:39
  Yeah, it's gonna be freaking awesome.
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