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Drive Thru News #15 - Yes! But what does it smell like? · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Welcome to the drive thru episode 15.
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  This is our monthly recap where we've put together many of automotive,
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  Now let's pull up to the window for some automotive news.
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  That's right, everybody.
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  Donovan's back and congratulations first up to Brad and his wife.
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  For having their little baby boy delivered this week as we're recording.
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  So Donovan has graciously come to fill in for Brad while he is now
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  officially on paternity leave.
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  So Donovan, thanks again for coming on the drive through and let's jump into it.
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  Awesome.
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  So this month we are going to kick off with something we don't normally do.
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  We're talking about Japanese cars.
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  First up, the new Civic Type R.
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  I took a look at this.
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  I think the camo is super interesting.
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  That's about the most interesting part of this car.
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  And it's got a new wing.
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  Aren't we excited?
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  But in reality, when I looked at this new Type R, there's really not
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  a whole lot of words to put around it, other than the fact that I see it
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  as foreshadowing of the new Integra.
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  I thought the Civic was sunsetted.
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  I thought they were done with it.
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  That's
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  where I was going with this.
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  We said that like two or three months ago that they were done with the Civic.
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  Maybe that was just the two door Civic?
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  Because it has a different name when it gets here.
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  Maybe it's not going to be called the Civic anymore.
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  Because there's this Type R, which is a sedan.
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  And there's also the 2022 Civic SI four door that's coming out.
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  So that's two civics.
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  When I thought we were done with Civic,
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  I am gonna fact check that, but I guarantee about three episodes
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  ago we said the Civic was no more,
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  but if you're getting 25, 30 5K over sticker on the special editions,
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  you're gonna keep making them, right?
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  I
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  suppose so.
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  But the two-Door Civic, and the Hatchback Civic.
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  Look like they're no longer available.
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  So this four door Civic, I mean, the more I look at it, especially that
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  nose, the more I see the new Integra.
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  Is that the line?
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  Is that the pitch line?
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  Integra.
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  I love, absolutely love the camo.
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  I can't stop looking at it.
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  It's really appealing compared to the normal black and white.
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  Something about the red, but red also throws off your depth perception.
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  So it's really hard at certain angles of the pictures to really discern what it is.
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  I feel like the front end looks more like a skyline.
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  Oh, interesting.
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  I could see that.
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  I could definitely see that.
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  R 32, whichever one it is.
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  I don't remember the numbers.
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  You know, one of of those type of skylines, like that's
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  what that front looks like.
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  There's nothing about this that says civic to me though, and I don't know.
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  You know, like with all the brands, right?
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  You see a BMW short of the new hideous S, but you know, and you're
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  like, oh, those are all BMWs.
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  Or you see an Audi, like those are all Audis.
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  Like this car to me doesn't look like.
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  Anything and not in a good way.
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  Like I don't recognize this.
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  If you took the badge off, granted it's camouflaged, but I wouldn't recognize
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  it as a Honda or I don't know what in that bolt on wing from 20 years ago.
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  Fast and furious is
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  why are we keeping that stuff around?
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  Can somebody explain it to me?
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  I feel like that's a type R thing.
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  The wings have gotten audacious in the last several iterations.
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  They've just been ridiculous.
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  Even
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  like that because Subaru doesn't make stupid wings anymore
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  because they make sedans now.
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  But the difference is, you know, usually they're like molded
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  pieces, very nice looking.
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  This looks like they ran out of time and they were like, just go
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  down the auto zone and grab what you can find and bolt it onto the back
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  of the car with the scaffolding.
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  Back in our day, it was order from the JC Whitney catalog.
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  Now it's just going to
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  say, yeah, right.
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  Just like we talked about last month with the new WRX and the WRX SDIs and all that,
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  they were starting to look Honda esque.
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  Maybe Honda had to make a quick change so people would stop comparing
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  the new Impreza to the Civic.
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  I don't know, because if you look at the SI version that's coming out, which is
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  not in camo or anything, the shot from the rear end, It's an Acura call it the
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  next, whatever Acura, no, it doesn't look like an Integra, but it looks like it
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  could be any other Acura from the rear, from the front, I think it's going to
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  have the same front end as this type R type R is going to have the same front end
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  as the SI, which should come out sooner.
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  I'm not seeing any spectacular numbers either.
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  I mean, I'm guessing it's going to be the same 300 ish horsepower turbo
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  four cylinder that there's been in the type R for a couple of years now.
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  So.
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  I mean, I've ridden in one of the new Civics.
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  They're not gentle on my eyes.
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  I'm not a big fan of the way they look.
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  They've been kind of weird for a while now, but as a performer,
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  keeping with front wheel drive, it is really, really good.
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  I would say, and this is, this company means a lot coming from me.
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  It's better than the GTI and I have my issues with the GTI, but in reality.
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  Both the Civic and the Veloster N having been in the right seat of both
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  of these cars as front wheel drives, evolving that technology, they're
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  really, really good out of the box.
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  Is there something extra special about the C pillar on these cars?
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  Because I noticed they've disguised The little kink in the back, for some
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  reason, does that give it more horsepower?
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  It's where you put the stickers.
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  That's the sticker reserved for, I see.
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  That's a big claim though.
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  Better than the GTI, but you know, it's been a while since I've been in a
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  GTI, you know, I wonder if it's a case where Honda is doing something special.
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  So they really want to wring all the performance out of it, where
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  GTI is kind of table stakes, right?
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  It's there.
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  Kind of Mustang GT and it's just like what it is, if they would do, and
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  I'm not aware of any special edition GTIs, maybe they would do that too.
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  Are
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  there any?
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  Well, the Golf R, the Golf R.
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  So yeah, but
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  still kind of similar.
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  Like if there was like a super special limited edition GTI or
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  Golf R or something that would be.
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  No,
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  no, we don't do that anymore.
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  They used to have the Fahrenheit editions and all this kind of stuff
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  that that's, that's, we don't do that.
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  It's too, too risqué for the Germans now.
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  I will give them that.
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  I'm impressed.
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  That the SI, and I guess I would assume the type R will as well
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  is keeping a manual transmission.
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  Yes.
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  That's the big news about the new Integra is that it's going to have
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  the 6 speed manual because it's a Civic and the Civic has a manual.
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  So I mean, they're not saying it, but let's face it.
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  They're going to share the same chassis, the same platform.
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  Maybe the Acura gets lucky and it gets all wheel drive or something
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  different, but that's going to add.
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  to 500 pounds if they go down that route.
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  I mean, I'm just speculating here a little bit, but I will say just really
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  quick before we talk a little bit more about the Integra, I relooked at the
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  Civic Type R and immediately my mind went to mid 2000s Nissan Sentra SER.
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  That's the front end.
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  Interesting.
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  Going back to the Integra for just a moment, This new spy photo of the
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  rear end, I'm really disappointed compared to the copper car that we
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  talked about a couple episodes back.
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  It's starting to look like a Infiniti G37 from behind.
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  I am not a fan of that.
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  I wasn't a fan of it on those cars and I don't think it's the right
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  move for this Integra either.
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  That is weird.
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  That's exactly what I thought of too.
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  When I saw that, has there been a full reveal of the entire car yet?
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  I've only seen bits and pieces of it.
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  No, it's all these renderings from different angles.
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  And the only one that looked like a full car was that copper one that
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  we talked about on the last episode.
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  Yeah.
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  That's going to be interesting if it is a surprise.
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  It's the G 35 from 15 years ago.
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  It's going to be, it's just smaller now.
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  That's going to be disappointing.
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  Is it
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  though?
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  Or is it the size of an Accord?
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  That's what we really want to know.
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  Right?
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  I mean, I'm, I'm not trying to throw stones because the jet is as big
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  as a Passat, so whatever, right?
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  They're all getting bigger.
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  I guess there's other news from Honda this month.
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  Apparently they're going to, I guess they're going to follow in the steps
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  of like BMW, how BMW has their i series for their electric platform, Honda
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  is going to have an EV sub brand.
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  But I don't think it's coming to America.
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  Sounds like it'll stay in Asia.
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  ENE,
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  colon, n
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  , . What does that mean?
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  Did Elon and Grimes name this thing is, is that word do not just
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  letters and symbols and stuff?
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  Well,
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  it does sort of look like.
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  Maybe Elon helped them design it.
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  So I will always call these the E colon.
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  You know, the thing that as soon as I see the picture of these, though, it
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  frustrates me because you know, they're not gonna look anything like this.
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  And I will give Tesla credit for that, right?
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  The Tesla truck, when you first saw that, you're like, yeah, that's just a concept.
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  They're never going to build it.
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  They actually are.
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  But these.
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  They're not going to build these, but I will say kind of something we
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  talked about the last time I was on the podcast with you guys was, you know, we
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  talked about EVs and where can they go?
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  Right?
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  They're only going to get so fast.
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  You're going to have grocery getters.
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  They're all going to do 3 seconds.
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  You're a 60s top speeds, not a factor anymore.
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  I think styling is where it's at.
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  And I think they could actually get away with these kind of
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  radical designs now, because.
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  Drag, although still exists, doesn't really matter anymore.
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  If you're doing three seconds, zero to 60, you can still get there just as quick.
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  So that would be pretty cool.
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  If they did keep this really very angular styling and do something different.
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  I think that'd be pretty in contrast to what we're just talking
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  about with the civic, right?
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  That looks like everything else.
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  I have a response to that with respect to these.
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  Could we make one vehicle and now this would be the modern inspector gadget car
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  and two by looking at the nose on the three of these, the coupe, the GT and
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  the SUV concept, are they amphibious?
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  They look like Dr.
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  Evil's ship.
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  They're a straight.
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  Up rip off of Nissan's IDX concept that they never built.
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  Look at the front end of an IDX.
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  Somebody was heavily inspired, I think, by that vehicle.
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  I think they were inspired by the duck boats in DC.
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  That's what I
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  see.
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  But I do have an answer for E colon N.
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  Okay.
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  Oh, God.
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  Not that it's good or bad.
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  So the E is from E colon technology, the collective brand name for
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  Honda's electrification technologies.
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  Then the N stands for new or next, representing new value creation for
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  the next generation of mobility.
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  So they're trying to energize.
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  People
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  energize your colon and drive a
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  Honda's up until this point that I've used as rental cars.
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  I always joke that there's a little needle that comes out of the headrest
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  and anesthetizes you because they're just so numb, but maybe this one
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  gives you a colonoscopy instead.
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  It's more exciting.
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  Meanwhile, what else is going on?
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  Apparently Mitsubishi.
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  It's coming out or has revealed there.
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  Thank you.
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  That's my takeaway.
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  We're not even going to get into this article.
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  Cause my whole takeaway after reading this was they're still selling cars in America.
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  What?
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  But Hey, if you're looking for a plug in hybrid and Mitsubishi is
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  bringing the 2023 Outlander as a
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  what dealership.
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  I haven't seen a Mitsubishi dealership since the Lancers disappeared and
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  there weren't many dealerships then.
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  I'll give you 20 bucks if you can name three Mitsubishi models
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  other than this one right now.
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  3000 GT.
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  No, I'm talking about current models.
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  Oh, forget it.
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  Nevermind.
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  I had a 97 Eclipse GST, love that car.
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  That was before, you know, we got the Evo's they did like Nissan did, although
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  Nissan recovered with the Skyline, they waited way too long to bring the
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  Evo's over and then they neutered the Eclipse to me, they did it to themselves.
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  Right.
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  And then I was talking to somebody recently that was talking about, I
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  guess they had a deal back in the early two K's where it was like zero down
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  0 percent interest for so many years.
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  And that really kind of screwed them financially.
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  But yeah, looking at this, what is this thing called Outlander?
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  Again, I think the design is wrong.
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  Look at companies like Kia and Hyundai that, you know, were.
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  Nothing.
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  Right.
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  And then they started getting some nice styling and everybody's like, Whoa, okay.
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  And even when they were still garbage, and I'm sure they're a lot better now, people
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  were like, well, okay, I buy with my eyes.
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  I think it's cool.
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  This thing, I don't know.
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  It looks like another two things made it in the front and there's
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  extra, what's the Nissan juke.
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  It looks like yeah, it's bigger brother, I think so,
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  which is by the way, is a Renault Clio, but we'll get into that at another point.
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  You're right though.
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  You bring up a very valid point.
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  A lot of people ask me all the time.
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  Why do you guys talk about aesthetics so much?
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  Why do you talk about the way the car looks and you're right.
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  People buy with their eyes.
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  So it's really important that when you're shopping for a car that it's appealing.
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  Granted, you're going to sit on the inside and you can't see it while you're
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  driving, but everybody else has to put up
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  So this is kind of a mixed one between Toyota and Stellantis.
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  They're both Announcing that they're going to build battery
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  factories in North America to supply American EVs and hybrids.
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  Now I've heard, and people could correct me if I'm wrong.
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  A lot of the hybrid technology out there, the patents are all owned
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  and basically controlled by Toyota.
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  So even if Ford has a hybrid or Chrysler has theirs or
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  whatever, it's some derivative.
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  Of Toyota's older technology.
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  And they're all kind of licensing it and modifying it from there.
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  It's almost like open source, right?
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  Where it's like, well, we're done with the code and now you can take it and
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  modify it and do whatever you want with it, you know, based where we've
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  already moved on to the next generation.
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  That's really interesting to see Stellantis and Toyota
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  partnering up to build batteries.
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  Any indication of where they're going to be doing that?
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  I believe Stellantis might be a year ahead of Toyota.
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  In 2024, Toyota following in production in 2025, but it's
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  unclear where that'll happen.
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  I mean, we do know that believe Ford has production in Tennessee and also Kentucky.
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  So question would be, would it be somewhere kind of in
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  that belt or somewhere new?
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  I mean, we do know Tesla's got their battery factory that
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  they're trying to build in Texas.
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  But
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  that's right, they're on the move.
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  When are people going to start protesting battery plants?
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  That seems like kind of the next move, doesn't it?
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  Yeah, I mean, we do all these environmental impact studies of a
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  lot of other factories and things and carbon credits are necessary.
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  But I mean, when you're building batteries, you're dealing with chemicals
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  and precious metals and rare earth metals.
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  And it's got to be caustic and toxic as all get out to build batteries
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  on a massive scale like this.
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  I'm still wondering where all the raw materials are.
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  Maybe we're harvesting it off of the moon or from Mars or, you know,
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  whatever SpaceX is doing this week,
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  maybe more interesting is, I don't know your comment about Toyotas
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  and their patents and all that stuff, but they've been very other
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  than the Prius, which they've had for a long time being a hybrid.
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  They've been a little bit more reserved or closed around going full EV.
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  I feel like they've had the Prius they've had that, but there really hasn't been
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  the seemingly huge push from the brand, but they have pushed hydrogens in the past
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  and currently, and they have that Mirai.
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  Which is their hydrogen fuel cell vehicle.
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  Right.
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  And that's been around since like 2016, at least I believe.
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  However of note more recently, he does hit a Guinness world record,
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  the Toyota Mirai for an 845 mile journey on a single tank of hydrogen
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  that took only five minutes to fill.
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  The record is the journey, but.
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  To note five minutes to fill that hydrogen tank.
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  And they took it down the coast of California for an 845 mile journey.
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  How fast is it?
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  Did it take five days to get there?
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  I can't imagine hydrogen's that fast.
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  Two day trip.
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  I've always thought that hydrogen would be kind of the ideal way to go.
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  Right.
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  For obvious reasons.
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  And you wonder, obviously we were doing batteries a hundred years ago, but you
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  know, did we go to batteries now because the performance is there and it was.
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  Easier.
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  It was quicker or there can't be too much research involved in hydrogen.
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  I mean, think about all the research we're doing in batteries.
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  Like why hasn't hydrogen caught on more?
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  It's obviously very readily available.
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  It's gotta be a performance issue is the only thing I could think of.
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  Right.
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  Part of the problem is.
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  getting hydrogen because you'd have to do some electrolysis
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  processes and things like that.
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  But I think there's also a big stigma around the safety of hydrogen because
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  of past Hindenburg to name one.
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  And I don't know if they've worked out.
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  Hydrogen is highly flammable, so there is definite need for very good safety
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  around the hydrogen fuel cell and whatnot.
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  You know, someone's in an accident and you know, it's always stupid when you see
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  in the movies that car rear end somebody else and violently explodes into flames.
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  Right.
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  That's very rarely happens, but I don't know with hydrogen, you
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  know, two metal objects create a spark and the tank opens and now
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  you got pure hydrogen floating out.
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  That is very flammable.
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  So I don't know.
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  It's been a while since I've gone back and dug through kind
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  of where the research is on it.
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  You wonder too about the people, you know, just filling it up, you know, I'm sure
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  they would figure out a way to do it.
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  But somebody smoking a cigarette, like you see the guys at the gas
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  station that still don't understand.
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  Hey, it's not just a liquid.
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  It turns into that scene from Zoolander, except with hydrogen, I don't even
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  know that we'd get that far, right?
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  You wouldn't get soaked in it before it combusts.
• 16:27
  There's also.
• 16:27
  Compression that has to happen, right?
• 16:29
  Cause it's a gas that's going to occupy a huge volume.
• 16:32
  So in order to get the amount you need as fuel, you have to compress it, right?
• 16:36
  Uh, propane, all that stuff is in compressed cylinders.
• 16:39
  And obviously that could be expensive to manufacture as well.
• 16:43
  It's a cool idea.
• 16:44
  I just, I don't know.
• 16:45
  I I'd love to see, you know, some of maybe the hybrid technologies that
• 16:49
  they use in Europe coming to the table.
• 16:51
  I mean, they've done diesel propane.
• 16:53
  They've done propane gas.
• 16:54
  They've done all these other kinds of things over there.
• 16:56
  They've been playing with propane.
• 16:58
  for what feels like forever.
• 16:59
  Maybe, you know, we have a lot of CNG, compressed natural gas here in the States.
• 17:03
  Maybe that's an option or an alternative to hydrogen.
• 17:06
  Granted, natural gas is not fast.
• 17:08
  You have to partner it with something else.
• 17:10
  One of the best pairings is probably with diesel, but we know there's a huge stigma.
• 17:14
  It's very taboo now to talk about diesels.
• 17:16
  I have to remind people, they can be run on other types of fuel.
• 17:19
  It's not necessarily the engine that's in it.
• 17:21
  It's dirty.
• 17:22
  It's the fuel that we run through it.
• 17:23
  That's pretty gross.
• 17:25
  And then how we deal with it, because if you run a diesel and veggie
• 17:27
  runs a lot cleaner than it does on this low sulfur garbage that you're
• 17:32
  buying at the pump these days,
• 17:33
  be interesting to maybe research a little bit more as to why the
• 17:37
  hydrogen is not taking off into cars.
• 17:39
  Because actually there's a lot of Metro buses, city type buses
• 17:42
  that actually run on hydrogen.
• 17:44
  They're actually, I think like a hydrogen electric kind of hybrid.
• 17:47
  So clearly it's possible.
• 17:49
  And there's vehicles out on the road today.
• 17:52
  And I think that's a great use in public transportation.
• 17:54
  Cause gosh, those petrol buses are huge polluters and smog generators.
• 18:01
  So these buses running around cities, churning constantly clean energy, I
• 18:05
  think is a great alternative for them.
• 18:08
  So it would be interesting to understand what the difficulty is on the car scale.
• 18:12
  So I wanted to dovetail real quick, Tanya, off of something you said
• 18:15
  before about Toyota quietly working in the background, you know, that's
• 18:17
  really been their MO for what's.
• 18:19
  Seems like a very long time.
• 18:21
  I watched some things on history channel recently on a motor trend
• 18:23
  that we're talking about the history of Honda, Mercedes, and,
• 18:26
  you know, machines that built the world and Toyota was part of that.
• 18:29
  And it's always kind of been their MO to be quietly in the background and
• 18:32
  all that kind of stuff and innovating.
• 18:33
  And then suddenly shocking us with something new.
• 18:36
  And you said, you know, they don't have a whole lot of hybrids outside of the Prius.
• 18:39
  They've quietly released the Lexus RX hybrid.
• 18:43
  These,
• 18:44
  yeah, I was going to say you got to count on the Lexus side.
• 18:47
  They have the.
• 18:48
  Number X series.
• 18:50
  So the UX, the NX, the RX, the CT 200
• 18:53
  H, which is a Corolla or whatever.
• 18:54
  Well,
• 18:55
  that they don't no longer make it.
• 18:58
  That's Already however many years old, but the current lineup is the X
• 19:02
  series, so the UX and XRX in increasing size, and those are electric hybrids.
• 19:08
  And
• 19:08
  I found out that the Pacifica is no longer the only hybrid minivan.
• 19:13
  Toyota just released the new Sienna.
• 19:16
  As a hybrid as well.
• 19:17
  And that was pretty quiet launch as well.
• 19:19
  So it's pretty surprised and we've been talking for the longest time.
• 19:21
  Why haven't Honda and Toyota come to market with the hybrid minivan?
• 19:25
  Why is Chrysler the only one maybe it was a licensing agreement, maybe
• 19:29
  something there to give Chrysler a boost.
• 19:31
  Who knows I'm speculating, but.
• 19:33
  The Sienna is now here as a hybrid as well.
• 19:35
  Granted, it's not a plugin.
• 19:37
  It's more like the Prius.
• 19:38
  The Pacifica is a, is a plugin using apparently Ford's
• 19:41
  technology to make all that work.
• 19:43
  So very curious to see where that goes in the future and how it's going to evolve.
• 19:46
  Now that Toyota's pretty much put both feet in the water into that hybrid space
• 19:50
  with vehicles, pretty much in every category between the Lexus, the Prius and
• 19:54
  the minivan, but I guess we got to move on to Volkswagen, Audi and Porsche news.
• 19:58
  So last month we talked about BMW and their.
• 20:02
  Motorcycles, not to be outdone, Porsche has revealed their new air cooled model.
• 20:08
  And I thought this was absolutely hilarious.
• 20:10
  Came across my desk from PCA, the Porsche club of America, and Porsche
• 20:14
  is also developing a bicycle.
• 20:16
  Can't tell you how irked I was when I clicked on this article.
• 20:20
  Clickbait, right?
• 20:20
  I mean, it is what it is.
• 20:22
  Bikes are cool.
• 20:22
  I remember, you know, kind of first getting into the automotive bikes
• 20:26
  when Lotus was doing them back in the nineties, things pretty cool.
• 20:29
  Yeah.
• 20:29
  I think it's cool.
• 20:29
  I, the video is, is kind of cheesy and corny, but I think it's the,
• 20:33
  you know, and, and, and people will snatch those up they're destined for
• 20:36
  somebody's wall to hang is, you know, wall art for sure, but it was cute.
• 20:40
  I suppose
• 20:40
  I was the same.
• 20:41
  I was like air, cold Porsche.
• 20:43
  What now?
• 20:43
  Like, this is super cool.
• 20:45
  You know, maybe some EV or something, because maybe they figured out
• 20:48
  a way to do without liquid.
• 20:49
  I don't know.
• 20:50
  And then they reveal it and they made it look like a.
• 20:52
  car, which was cool.
• 20:53
  It was actually two bikes together.
• 20:54
  And I was like, Oh, okay.
• 20:56
  Yeah.
• 20:56
  We're just going back to Porsche design from like the eighties.
• 20:59
  I'm like, they've had bikes over the years.
• 21:01
  I mean, it's not a first for Porsche to have a pedal bike.
• 21:04
  I've only ever seen one in person.
• 21:07
  I've never ridden one, but it's also not uncommon for bicycle manufacturers to
• 21:11
  have been tied to auto manufacturers.
• 21:14
  Take Bianchi as an example, right?
• 21:16
  Alto Bianchi is the automotive Arm of Bianchi, the bicycle
• 21:20
  company, but it's cool.
• 21:22
  I mean, it's a good looking bike.
• 21:23
  I honestly, I gotta say, just like in real life, I think the Porsche bike
• 21:27
  looks better than the BMW one, but I'm not gonna spend 25 grand on a bike.
• 21:30
  If I am, it's going to be something really awesome.
• 21:33
  So it's funny.
• 21:33
  I didn't even pick up those details because I only watched enough for
• 21:36
  the video to see that it was a bike.
• 21:38
  And then I got pissed and went away, but it's interesting.
• 21:40
  You talk about the way it was covered, you know, with the race car, they
• 21:42
  just came out with, you're talking about it on garage ride, I can't
• 21:44
  remember what it's called, like the R 300 or whatever it is that's
• 21:47
  supposed to be a Cayman or something.
• 21:48
  So to me, it was like, Oh, well, if they came out with that car, that doesn't
• 21:51
  look like any of their production models, maybe this really is some kind
• 21:55
  of new version of an air cooled car.
• 21:57
  And you're right.
• 21:57
  The way they had it covered, it was pointy and weird, and I
• 22:01
  wasn't expecting the bike at all.
• 22:02
  And I was like, is this some kind of, the manufacturers do that?
• 22:05
  No roof, no windshield kind of thing.
• 22:07
  I was like a spider.
• 22:08
  No, but it was, it was a bike.
• 22:10
  Like I said, I didn't go far enough to see that it was 25, 000.
• 22:13
  That's crazy.
• 22:14
  But it goes along with your 95 t shirts, I guess.
• 22:17
  Yeah,
• 22:17
  yeah, yeah.
• 22:18
  And 7, 000 sunglasses and stuff, you know, whatever, but you know,
• 22:21
  Hey, they're made of magnesium.
• 22:23
  So, you know, super light because, you know, aluminum isn't good enough, but
• 22:26
  black forest, right?
• 22:28
  Special order as a Porsche part number, just like those
• 22:30
  sausages that Volkswagen has.
• 22:32
  So speaking of other things, Volkswagen, yet another King of the Hill moment,
• 22:37
  the Veyron versus the, and I got to question this, is it the Chiron or the
• 22:42
  Chiron, but they're pitting them against each other for the hyper car crown.
• 22:46
  Does anybody actually care?
• 22:47
  Uh,
• 22:48
  is
• 22:49
  it, is that the French way?
• 22:50
  Cause the Greeks say Chiron.
• 22:51
  I was, you know, that was the most interesting part of this whole thing.
• 22:54
  I've heard every version.
• 22:55
  I actually was in a Bugatti dealership in Zurich.
• 22:58
  I went there.
• 22:59
  Sharon, she said it.
• 23:01
  Oh, that's how she said it was out and she told me not to take pictures of it.
• 23:04
  I did.
• 23:05
  Anyway, I'll send 'em to you.
• 23:05
  But to me, this video, again, it's almost was as frustrating as the bicycle one.
• 23:09
  It's like, hmm, let me take a car and one that's 10 years
• 23:12
  newer and see which one's faster.
• 23:14
  Which one you thinks gonna be faster.
• 23:15
  Right.
• 23:15
  It's like so dumb.
• 23:17
  But I like the headline.
• 23:18
  What does it say?
• 23:19
  The way to embarrass the Bugatti owners to bring a, A faster Bugatti.
• 23:22
  That's
• 23:25
  . Again, I wanna remind people they are French, you know, sounds Italian.
• 23:28
  They are French.
• 23:29
  They're the most famous French auto manufacturer, probably on
• 23:31
  the planet in terms of race cars.
• 23:33
  I mean, right there with Renault, right.
• 23:35
  But still they are part of the VAG family.
• 23:38
  You know, they are on an aging R eight platform.
• 23:40
  We've already covered that, but you know, on
• 23:42
  that note and kind of sidebar that same trip, and speaking of Bugatti,
• 23:45
  there's a museum in France over on the eastern part of France called
• 23:48
  the Schlump Museum, and it's the largest Bugatti museum in the world.
• 23:52
  They have 132, I think they had a bear on there when I was there,
• 23:56
  but if you ever get the chance, uh, it's, it's pretty cool.
• 23:59
  So Donovan, I jokingly mentioned the aging RA platform.
• 24:02
  So I would be remiss to use Tanya's phrase to not talk about Lamborghini.
• 24:06
  So what's their vision of the future?
• 24:08
  You know, it's hybrid, which, okay.
• 24:10
  They're easing into the electric, right?
• 24:12
  We all know they're going to go there.
• 24:13
  I mean, what did they say by 2024?
• 24:15
  They're going to be hybrid.
• 24:16
  I guess that's cool, right?
• 24:17
  I mean, you think F1 has been doing it.
• 24:19
  Everybody's kind of easing into it.
• 24:20
  So I got the engine in there, but I think we've all known that the charm
• 24:23
  of these cars, right, is the big B12 in the back or the B10 or the sound,
• 24:28
  you know, I'm fortunate enough to have.
• 24:30
  A guy right now and you know the sound of it alone.
• 24:33
  That's why I want to drive that car, right?
• 24:35
  Yeah, performs great, but just that sound.
• 24:37
  So once they start to lose those kind of things.
• 24:39
  I think that's concerning.
• 24:41
  You imagine 20 years from now, somebody going to go to the Lamborghini dealership
• 24:44
  and go, Oh, I want this car because it's beautiful, but it sounds like the wind.
• 24:48
  So I don't know, you know, I really wonder, you know, what's going to
• 24:51
  happen to the supercar, hypercar market when all this happens.
• 24:54
  I mean, the Bugattis we were just talking about, you know, when they
• 24:56
  don't make any sound and you've got a 250, 000 Tesla roadster that's faster,
• 25:01
  you know, that makes no sound either.
• 25:02
  I think those companies are gonna be in real trouble, but I did want to point out
• 25:05
  the most interesting part of that article.
• 25:07
  They say in there that.
• 25:08
  One out of every 11, 000 cars in the world is a Lamborghini.
• 25:12
  There's no way
• 25:14
  that's BS.
• 25:15
  I flag on the play.
• 25:16
  There's no way Baldy, the guy, or however you want to say it, Italian
• 25:19
  says that one in 11, 000 vehicles in the world is a Lamborghini, which is
• 25:22
  tiny compared to a massive automaker.
• 25:24
  Like Toyota, I find that hard to believe.
• 25:26
  I know they made a lot of guy or does.
• 25:28
  And they made a lot of hurricanes and now they're making a lot of Uris or
• 25:32
  Uris or however you want to say it.
• 25:33
  But if so, I want to say Toreg.
• 25:35
  Yeah.
• 25:36
  Yeah.
• 25:36
  Slash Panamera slash the exciting part for me about this is okay.
• 25:40
  Cool.
• 25:41
  When EVs aren't alternative source vehicles anymore and combustion engines
• 25:46
  are Kuntosh is now or half a million dollars, you know, give or take, can you
• 25:50
  imagine what they're going to be worth?
• 25:51
  Once you can't buy a V12 Lamborghini anymore.
• 25:54
  So buy them up now.
• 25:55
  A
• 25:55
  hundred percent.
• 25:56
  Ken Block.
• 25:57
  We talked about him last month.
• 25:58
  He has transitioned from Ford over to Audi.
• 26:01
  And it's kind of more of the same.
• 26:03
  As he's making his foray into the Audi world, they've taken him through
• 26:07
  the history of Audis in a multi part video series that I was watching.
• 26:12
  They've given Ken the keys in these videos to multiple, what they call, Audi.
• 26:17
  Legacy or Audi heritage tribute cars, like, you know, the DTM V8 and the Audi
• 26:22
  sport Quattros, you know, from the rally era and the IMSA ITU 90s and things
• 26:27
  like that in typical Ken Block style.
• 26:29
  What does he do?
• 26:30
  He puts them on track and goes completely sideways.
• 26:32
  The one that hurt me the most is watching him drive Hans Stuck's V8 DTM car, trying
• 26:38
  to drift it around this road course.
• 26:41
  And I'm just like, this car was never intended to do this.
• 26:44
  That flat plane V8 doesn't like that.
• 26:47
  And neither does the car.
• 26:48
  And it's too big.
• 26:49
  And I'm like, I can't believe Audi's letting him do this
• 26:52
  stuff and he's getting it done.
• 26:54
  But I'm just like, I feel for those cars.
• 26:56
  I mean, if it wasn't a rally car, it's not supposed to go sideways.
• 26:59
  I think it's kind of disrespectful, honestly.
• 27:01
  I mean.
• 27:02
  Yeah, it's cool.
• 27:03
  It's PR hype and maybe do that to rally cars.
• 27:05
  But like you're saying, I think there's certain cars that you just don't do
• 27:08
  that to, you know, you wouldn't take a nine 17 K and try to drift it.
• 27:12
  It's what is, you know, it wasn't designed that way.
• 27:14
  There should be some respect for the history of the vehicle and
• 27:17
  things, but it was pretty crazy.
• 27:19
  And I didn't know that hidden, uh, what is it called?
• 27:21
  The tradition center or something.
• 27:23
  That's pretty cool.
• 27:24
  And obviously none of us can get in there.
• 27:25
  It's super secret air quotes, but the car that I was most taken by,
• 27:29
  and I can't remember the name of it.
• 27:31
  It's the one that's in the thumbnail, that white one to
• 27:33
  the right of the bug eyed one.
• 27:35
  Oh, at the group, a car.
• 27:36
  Yeah.
• 27:37
  The prototype that never ran.
• 27:38
  That was pretty crazy.
• 27:39
  It
• 27:40
  was pretty cool to see a lot of these cars.
• 27:41
  It was interesting too, when he walks in and he skips that whole first set of cars.
• 27:45
  And then just pretty much wants to focus on the Quattros and
• 27:48
  everything else was, was interesting.
• 27:49
  But yeah, I mean, definitely a PR stunt, right, for Audi and for
• 27:52
  him, but, uh, it's pretty cool.
• 27:53
  I'm excited to see some, something different in his videos.
• 27:56
  And I know there's going to be tons of people are all, well, whatever, just
• 27:58
  drive the car, send it, blah, blah, blah.
• 28:00
  The problem is if you take like a DTM car or like the ITU car,
• 28:04
  any of those that were designed for road racing, the types of.
• 28:07
  Lateral pressure you're putting on those suspensions.
• 28:10
  They were not designed for that.
• 28:12
  They don't have the steering articulation.
• 28:14
  You're taking a 30 year old car or older out on track and then just abusing it.
• 28:19
  I mean, granted it's Audi.
• 28:20
  They can just make more parts, but their job in life at the museum is to not
• 28:25
  go then repair Hans Stuck's race car.
• 28:28
  That's been in storage pristine forever.
• 28:30
  I mean, it just, I don't know.
• 28:31
  It hurt me to watch that and I'm like, Yeah, I get it Hoonigan and bring
• 28:35
  everybody with you from Subaru and try to convince them that Audi is awesome.
• 28:38
  But I think they need to reinvent the way they're doing this.
• 28:41
  We can't do more of the same hats off to Ken.
• 28:44
  Hopefully maybe something cool will come of this.
• 28:46
  I don't want to see history repeated.
• 28:48
  You know what I mean?
• 28:49
  What would the Audi version be of the Ford F 100 pickup that he had?
• 28:55
  It's going to be the RSQ8 or whatever that thing is that they're running
• 28:59
  around the Nürburgring right now, which we're going to talk about a little bit,
• 29:02
  what's an old 60s, early 70s Audi that he can put huge fenders on and
• 29:07
  yeah, yeah, old Audi 100 or whatever.
• 29:09
  They're all sedans back then.
• 29:10
  Yeah,
• 29:11
  cool.
• 29:11
  I think it's going to do a lot for the brand though.
• 29:12
  I mean, I think, you know, there's a lot of people Younger people that watch that.
• 29:15
  And I think they're going to be Audi fans after it.
• 29:17
  So I think it was pretty good move for them.
• 29:18
  Yeah.
• 29:19
  The only disconnect there is the price range.
• 29:20
  Audi doesn't make anything that young people can just go by.
• 29:24
  Right.
• 29:24
  And even the GTI is starting to escape people's grasp.
• 29:28
  And that's why cars like the Civic that we talked about at the top of the show,
• 29:31
  their price point is still higher than it's ever been, but still lower than
• 29:34
  some of the German entries, the low end, you know, even the low end three series,
• 29:38
  BMWs, which used to be attainable.
• 29:40
  Now, 50, 60, 000.
• 29:42
  I mean, young kids can't jump into that.
• 29:44
  Like they couldn't eat 30 and the resale value on a lot of those
• 29:47
  cars, because people are leasing them it's high, it's a catch 22.
• 29:51
  So, you know, Ford has done the young drivers of disservice as well.
• 29:56
  By doing away with the Fiesta and the Focus and other cars, you know,
• 29:59
  we've seen them all disappear.
• 30:00
  So I'm really curious, you know, maybe when my daughters start driving, the
• 30:03
  car that they're going to drive at 16, 18 years old hasn't been created yet.
• 30:07
  So I'm kind of curious to see where the market is and, you know, what will be a
• 30:10
  used car when they're old enough to drive.
• 30:13
  Granted, right?
• 30:13
  It's a, it's a huge PR move for Audi, but you know, was it?
• 30:16
  Audi Germany, was it Audi US?
• 30:18
  Because obviously in Germany, Audis are more attainable because
• 30:22
  of the lower interest rate.
• 30:23
  But that's kind of a narrow focus.
• 30:24
  So surely Audi, you know, corporate was thinking broader than that, but that's,
• 30:28
  I mean, you make a great point that I never really thought of before with
• 30:30
  Ford, you could go buy an inexpensive Ford or an inexpensive used version.
• 30:34
  Audi, not the case.
• 30:35
  Subaru still, but yeah, I mean, unless they're going to try to do
• 30:38
  something else with the market.
• 30:40
  I mean, think about all the PR they got from kicking everybody's butt for years.
• 30:43
  Maybe that's all they're on is just a big PR machine.
• 30:45
  I'm confused and I find both videos pointless.
• 30:50
  Yes.
• 30:50
  It's better done in the URQ, an actual rally car.
• 30:54
  However, the URQ and Audi doesn't need Ken Block to prove that it's a rally car.
• 31:00
  Audi effing proved that already 30 years ago and they changed the game now.
• 31:06
  It's super cool.
• 31:07
  I guess with.
• 31:08
  Ford.
• 31:08
  That's not known for that.
• 31:10
  I mean, yeah, they had the Cosworth and things like that, but the types of cars
• 31:13
  that, you know, the Hoonigan craft Ford, isn't known like Audi for revolutionizing
• 31:18
  rally and being a world champion, unless I'm mistaken, the heritage,
• 31:24
  the pedigree, the infamy of Audi.
• 31:27
  I don't know.
• 31:27
  It speaks for URQ and it's rally livery and everyone should just shut up.
• 31:33
  And I'm not impressed because he barely could fricking drift the
• 31:36
  URQ and the IMSA car, the DTM car doesn't want to be drifted.
• 31:40
  Correct.
• 31:41
  That's
• 31:41
  what I keep saying.
• 31:42
  It was such a forced effort.
• 31:44
  It's like, what, what is the point?
• 31:45
  It's not like you said, it is not designed to do that.
• 31:48
  I had a thought.
• 31:48
  I wonder if it.
• 31:49
  here.
• 31:49
  So we were talking recently, and I think we might've talked about it last
• 31:52
  podcast too, but talking about BMW, we were talking about it this weekend.
• 31:55
  I was at a BMW meet there is heritage and history with BMW, right?
• 31:59
  Just think about the M three, for example, the original M three,
• 32:02
  the only reason we had one is they needed them to race, right?
• 32:04
  They were two door cars.
• 32:06
  Rah, rah, rah.
• 32:07
  So through the years, they sort of kept that heritage until the four door
• 32:10
  version came out as the current M3, which should have been M4, you know, and
• 32:14
  there's been other missteps along the way with the way they number their cars
• 32:16
  and things, but the whole point of that conversation was, do you think that a
• 32:20
  lot of these manufacturers now gotten to the point where maybe generations have
• 32:24
  moved on and newer generations are going off the bus, but they're not thinking
• 32:28
  the tradition of the vehicles, right?
• 32:30
  So the marketing team for the current.
• 32:32
  M4 isn't thinking, oh, that should be an M3 because of this.
• 32:36
  The
• 32:36
  problem with that Donovan is the marketing team that's doing this right
• 32:39
  now is our generation of petrolheads.
• 32:42
  So where did we go astray?
• 32:43
  We're going to get lost, right?
• 32:45
  I agree with everything you've said Donovan.
• 32:47
  And I think that makes sense because that speaks to how Everything that
• 32:51
  was once old is new again, all these remakes and redos, even in the movie
• 32:56
  world where it's like, okay, sure.
• 32:58
  It's new for the new generation, but you know, some of us have already seen it.
• 33:02
  If Audi or anyone else is trying to market the new generation, like
• 33:06
  you're saying, why are you bringing back a car from 30 years ago that
• 33:09
  these people have no idea existed?
• 33:11
  Well, that's what I'm saying though.
• 33:12
  I think part of it is the market they're trying to reach, but I think partially
• 33:15
  internally as the corporation, those people don't get it to your point,
• 33:19
  Tanya, about, you know, we all remember a groupie and we know Audi's heritage
• 33:24
  in there and they kicked ass, but let's say the new marketing team is.
• 33:27
  You know, millennials are wise or cues or bars or whatever they're called.
• 33:31
  Now, all they know is there were a bunch of cool Audis and video games.
• 33:34
  Let's go get the mothballs off and have Ken Block.
• 33:36
  Who's a current cultural icon, drive the crap out of them.
• 33:40
  Cause those things seem cool and split them.
• 33:41
  This guy and they're awesome.
• 33:42
  Instead of somebody going, Whoa, to your point, Eric, that was hunched.
• 33:46
  Duke's car, right?
• 33:47
  That car was important.
• 33:48
  It's still important.
• 33:49
  We know that it was important.
• 33:51
  We knew it existed for what it was.
• 33:52
  Let's not touch it.
• 33:53
  I feel like there's a disconnect these days between whatever it is,
• 33:56
  the marketing group or whatever in the history of the brand, I think a lot of
• 34:00
  that's getting lost and I think about the book that Lutz wrote when he worked
• 34:04
  at BMW about them wanting to change the round ball and he was like, no, no, no.
• 34:07
  That's.
• 34:08
  The heritage of the brand.
• 34:09
  They've changed it now, of course, since, but you know, they wanted to change
• 34:12
  it to something completely different.
• 34:13
  It was kind of that.
• 34:14
  No, that's what people recognize.
• 34:15
  Right.
• 34:16
  And my point in that is I think, you know, people have gotten lost in that.
• 34:18
  And I wonder if that's out of here because you're taking,
• 34:21
  Tony, you nailed it again, right?
• 34:22
  You're taking these cars that we already know we're key, right?
• 34:24
  We don't need to prove it anymore.
• 34:25
  They're still in our memory and our, in our minds and trying
• 34:29
  to do something different with them just because it's cool.
• 34:31
  There's these old cars that I've seen, you know, elsewhere.
• 34:33
  So I feel like brands are losing their way.
• 34:36
  But if we flip that.
• 34:37
  Coin over and look at the other side, a well done version of this heritage meets
• 34:42
  the future video was actually between Stig Blumfist, one of the original Group B
• 34:47
  drivers, maybe not as well known as Walter Rural, Michel Mouton, but he was one of
• 34:51
  the key players on the team along with Hanno Micola and a lot of other folks that
• 34:55
  ran for Audi back in the Group B days.
• 34:57
  So they brought out Lucas Degrassi, who runs the Formula E car for
• 35:01
  Audi, and they did a driver swap.
• 35:03
  They had Lucas Drive, Walter Rural.
• 35:06
  You are Quattro, not Stig's.
• 35:08
  I looked at the tag on the side of the car, plus the numbers.
• 35:10
  And I'm a geek.
• 35:11
  So I figured all that out.
• 35:12
  And then Stig drives the new e tron GT, the quote unquote, let's call it a two
• 35:18
  door, but not a two door all electric.
• 35:21
  I thought that was really cool.
• 35:22
  That was the past meeting the future.
• 35:25
  And both of them gave their opinions on the car.
• 35:28
  They drove it around this European road up in the mountains or whatever.
• 35:31
  And they drove the Stig.
• 35:32
  track at speed and I thought it was fantastic.
• 35:34
  And what was great is, and I always enjoy as mild mannered as he is in
• 35:39
  soft spoken Stig, the real Stig, Stig Blumfist is still the man and
• 35:44
  he can drive and he's so smooth.
• 35:46
  And I want to point out one important thing, cause I studied this video,
• 35:50
  he shuffle steers and I'm just going to leave my microphone right there.
• 35:55
  That's interesting.
• 35:55
  It's the, it's the past meets the future.
• 35:57
  And it reminds me too, of the swap, not the past meets the future, but you
• 36:00
  know, Hamilton and Rossi doing the swap.
• 36:02
  That was really cool.
• 36:03
  Maybe there is something in an Audi, if you're listening, I want some credit
• 36:06
  for this, but put Ken Block in one of the old rally cars and put him on
• 36:10
  one of the old rally stages and check his time against that, you know, do
• 36:13
  stuff like that where a lot of people didn't watch rally back in the day.
• 36:16
  Right.
• 36:16
  So they're not going to know the drivers that set the time, but you know,
• 36:19
  Hey, this was the record in this car.
• 36:21
  That would be really interesting.
• 36:22
  And I think that would probably be a better use of that.
• 36:25
  Happened earlier this year.
• 36:28
  So I talked about it in one of the other episodes, Yari Matilatvala
• 36:31
  drove his father's Toyota Celica from the post groupie era.
• 36:36
  So the early nineties, the Carlos signs car, and he drove it.
• 36:39
  He goes, I can drive this just as fast as a modern Toyota.
• 36:42
  And people are like, what do you, you don't know what you're talking about.
• 36:45
  But you're a mad man.
• 36:46
  Cause he is the mad man of WRC.
• 36:47
  And he did it.
• 36:48
  I mean, he got close.
• 36:49
  His times were phenomenal.
• 36:51
  He's a phenomenal driver.
• 36:52
  Granted he's now pulled out of WRC.
• 36:54
  He's a team owner.
• 36:55
  He's not driving anymore.
• 36:56
  So he's basically retired to sunset your career like that and go, look,
• 37:00
  I'm driving my dad's car and it can still kick ass against a new rally car.
• 37:04
  I mean, what does that say about new rally cars?
• 37:06
  It says a lot about the old cars too.
• 37:09
  Right.
• 37:09
  And so again, the past meets the future and stuff like that gets
• 37:12
  your attention more so than some of these other publicity stunts.
• 37:16
  The other part is, you know, Kim Block is actually a good race car driver.
• 37:19
  Right?
• 37:19
  He's not just a drifter guy.
• 37:21
  Right.
• 37:21
  And you see, what is it, stadium Cross, is that what it's called?
• 37:24
  When they've got the joker loop and all that stuff on there?
• 37:25
  Yeah, the rally cross.
• 37:26
  Yeah.
• 37:27
  Yeah.
• 37:27
  And he's actually beaten some current champs and stuff.
• 37:29
  What?
• 37:29
  You know, it'd be nice to see him, and I know the donuts are what
• 37:31
  sells and things, but again, right.
• 37:33
  He's kind of in his element there.
• 37:34
  So let him do something that's worthy.
• 37:35
  But
• 37:36
  the hat's off the Stig for still getting behind the wheel.
• 37:38
  I was wondering if that was his original driving suit or not.
• 37:43
  I'll leave that where it is.
• 37:44
  All right.
• 37:45
  So let's move on to the rest of lower Saxony.
• 37:48
  Shall we?
• 37:48
  How about some BMW and Mercedes news?
• 37:51
  Yeah.
• 37:51
  So now BMW has this very special painting process where they can paint
• 37:56
  very fine lines and patterns and things without having to mask them.
• 37:59
  Uh, of the rest of the car that I think that's really special, you know, the,
• 38:02
  the M four is they're going to release, I guess they're going to release a handful
• 38:05
  of them with stripes and, you know, special designs and liveries and things.
• 38:10
  I'm excited to see where that's going to go.
• 38:11
  Somebody is going to get crazy with it and have, you know, we've got
• 38:14
  all these wrapped versions of cars.
• 38:16
  I saw one the other day, it was the silhouette ghosts on a
• 38:18
  Lamborghini, which was really cool.
• 38:19
  It would be really interesting to see if you could go in a
• 38:21
  dealership now and say, I want.
• 38:23
  This painted on the side of my car and, you know, do paint to order that way.
• 38:27
  Just means there's going to be some really overly priced hideous cars
• 38:30
  on the market, but I think it's going to be a pretty cool feature.
• 38:33
  And I'm interested to see how it's going to translate the
• 38:34
  rest of the automotive world.
• 38:35
  If it works, you know, if it turns out to be another GM process
• 38:38
  with the, what was the white?
• 38:39
  Vehicles, you know, that five years later, the paint was falling off.
• 38:42
  That's going to be just,
• 38:43
  well, I mean, they can do a lot now considering the advances in
• 38:45
  technology with 3d printing and lasers and things like that.
• 38:48
  So I can see these bespoke BMWs being a thing, like we mentioned
• 38:52
  on a couple other episodes.
• 38:53
  I think the fail point is always going to be, I can't order what I want.
• 38:58
  I can't go on the website and I want it purple with green stripes
• 39:01
  and the Joker's face on the side of it and all this kind of thing.
• 39:04
  It's going to be, Oh, well, you want a purple one?
• 39:06
  Well, it only comes with yellow stripes.
• 39:07
  Are you okay with that?
• 39:08
  And you're like, man, again, and the Germans have been doing that forever.
• 39:12
  You want a black interior?
• 39:13
  Well, you can only get it with a silver car.
• 39:15
  Like, well, that stinks.
• 39:16
  I want triple black, you know, move on.
• 39:18
  Speaking of moving on,
• 39:20
  yeah.
• 39:20
  So Mercedes or the parent company is a Daimler AG is
• 39:25
  spinning off the truck division.
• 39:26
  I think it's pretty interesting.
• 39:27
  I guess they feel like it'll be more successful when it's off
• 39:29
  on its own and focusing more on, you know, where the technology
• 39:32
  of hauling cargo is going to go.
• 39:35
  So, you know, they're testing these long haul trucks using liquid hydrogen.
• 39:39
  As we tie that into this.
• 39:40
  Part, you know, fuel cells and everything else.
• 39:42
  So I think it's going to be interesting.
• 39:43
  It seems like an odd move to me though, that they're spinning off one
• 39:46
  of their divisions, particularly one that seems to be pretty successful.
• 39:49
  So I'm not sure what that's really about.
• 39:51
  I don't know, but that sounds a lot like VAG spinning off, you know, all
• 39:55
  their trucks into man and man, right?
• 39:57
  So it kind of makes sense to divide it up.
• 39:59
  Dodge did the same thing, right?
• 40:00
  Ram is all the trucks and they're not going to cross brand them anymore.
• 40:04
  So.
• 40:04
  Curious to see how Daimler does.
• 40:07
  I mean, obviously they're probably going to be still sold through
• 40:08
  the same dealer network and all of that service at the same locations.
• 40:12
  I mean, all these sprinters that are running around, even the Dodges and
• 40:15
  things like that, there's still Mercedes underneath rebadged and whatnot.
• 40:18
  So good for them.
• 40:19
  And if they're going to experiment with all electric, they're probably
• 40:22
  going to have it before Tesla does.
• 40:23
  And if they're going hydrogen, I'm really curious to see how that works too.
• 40:26
  I mean, I think hydrogen might make sense.
• 40:29
  In a semi, right?
• 40:30
  Maybe slightly more protected than a passenger vehicle.
• 40:33
  But then again, you've got a like kind of rolling torpedo there, you
• 40:36
  know, you get into some of these accidents with the semi truck.
• 40:38
  So, you know, again, safety is the biggest concern with
• 40:41
  hydrogen at the end of the day.
• 40:42
  So moving on to Stellantis.
• 40:44
  Now, Stellantis, as we know, you know, we have been partying hard with
• 40:48
  Stellantis for like 18 months now.
• 40:50
  And we had that moment about two drive thru episodes ago where, you know, mom
• 40:55
  and dad were flicking the lights, you know, if anybody remembers those days
• 40:58
  of house parties, flicking the lights.
• 41:00
  It's time to go home.
• 41:01
  Everybody.
• 41:02
  They said no more charger, no more challenger, no more Hemis.
• 41:06
  We'll let you guys know what's coming next.
• 41:08
  The news in Stellantis has been really, really quiet over
• 41:12
  the last couple of months.
• 41:13
  I'm not really worried, but there's nothing new to report except for
• 41:18
  the guys over at MilTech Racing decided to put a brand new Dodge.
• 41:22
  TRX, which is the 702 horsepower Hellcat engine, basically Ram 1500
• 41:28
  on a lap around the Nürburgring.
• 41:31
  Hold my beer.
• 41:34
  I think that's really cool.
• 41:34
  I was late to really appreciate the TRX, I guess.
• 41:38
  And in fact, it was just on a Leno's garage last week.
• 41:41
  Really cool.
• 41:41
  I had no idea that, you know, they were making something like that.
• 41:44
  And I think it's still zero to 60 in like three seconds or under three seconds.
• 41:48
  It's crazy fast.
• 41:49
  Anytime you get a truck like that, you know, on a performance
• 41:52
  course or a racetrack, you know it's gonna roll like crazy.
• 41:54
  But I bet it was a lot of fun in the streets.
• 41:56
  What they did is they set up, there were two miltech cars.
• 41:58
  One is a miltech prepared Audi, like RSQ eight or something like that.
• 42:03
  Basically the big SUV, so big V eight twin turbo, eight pot
• 42:07
  brakes, like all this crazy, you know, Audi stuff that you expect.
• 42:09
  And so he is chasing this TRX, which is basically stock, stock
• 42:13
  tires, you know, for the factory.
• 42:14
  All this.
• 42:14
  They put an exhaust on it, which it sounds really good.
• 42:16
  And then it's got the regular old.
• 42:18
  Chrysler supply two pot break that they've been making for like a hundred years.
• 42:23
  And that was one of the things they were joking about.
• 42:25
  They're like, we don't know that this thing's going to stop.
• 42:26
  It weighs like 9, 000 pounds.
• 42:28
  Right.
• 42:28
  Watching the video, especially from the chase Audi, when he would get
• 42:32
  on it, he was out running the Audi.
• 42:34
  And I'm like, that's a pickup truck people.
• 42:36
  And then you you're seeing like, you know, little, you know, BMWs
• 42:39
  and people getting out of the way.
• 42:41
  It was just like, it's like three tons of coming.
• 42:44
  Right.
• 42:44
  And I mean, then he's at the point where the front brakes are smoking,
• 42:47
  going into the turns because he's trying to stop that mass.
• 42:51
  And it was, it was just hilarious to watch this thing.
• 42:54
  And the guy in the Audi, I mean, he was kind of like, whatever.
• 42:57
  I mean, I was kind of annoyed listening to him just the way he was talking.
• 43:00
  It almost felt like he was making fun of Americans in a way.
• 43:03
  But then he was like, dude, look at the back of the truck, like leaning over.
• 43:07
  You're about to flip.
• 43:08
  I'm like, he's not about to flip.
• 43:09
  Oh, the one thing I thought was interesting was it was
• 43:11
  limited to 190 kilometers.
• 43:14
  And for those of you that don't do metric conversions in your head
• 43:17
  quickly, that's 118 miles an hour.
• 43:20
  So it's not as fast.
• 43:21
  Fast as a challenger or 9 11, it's governed to 118, but it gets there quick.
• 43:28
  That's for sure.
• 43:29
  How did they come up with that number to govern?
• 43:31
  That's probably the point at which things get stupid.
• 43:33
  Once you cross 120 in a, in a pickup truck, it probably
• 43:36
  gets really, really dangerous.
• 43:38
  You know,
• 43:38
  breaking distance is half a mile at that point
• 43:40
  to Tanya's point about the earlier videos.
• 43:42
  Does it have a point?
• 43:43
  Absolutely not.
• 43:44
  The point is why the F not.
• 43:47
  So if he's got the truck and they're going to let him run it, cause that
• 43:49
  was their concern, whether they're going to let him on the road or not.
• 43:52
  The one thing I thought was shocking was how much traffic there was on the ring.
• 43:56
  I mean, they might as well have been on the beltway, like bumper to bumper
• 43:59
  going through there, I mean, at a hundred miles an hour, but still
• 44:03
  I was just like, it's craziness.
• 44:04
  So is the next iRacing season or are virtual racing going to be?
• 44:10
  I think that is a good plan.
• 44:11
  I like
• 44:12
  that.
• 44:13
  But I think it's time that we move on to some more domestic news.
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• 44:27
  So Tanya, what's up for Ford and Chevy?
• 44:29
  Well, it kind of gave it away earlier when you're talking about
• 44:31
  Toyota and Stellantis's plans around factories being built.
• 44:34
  So Ford also announced.
• 44:36
  Uh, earlier this month, they're planning, I think, to spend over
• 44:40
  11 billion to build, I think, four factories split between Tennessee and
• 44:44
  Kentucky that are dedicated to EV.
• 44:46
  I think the Tennessee campus is going to be where the F series pickup
• 44:50
  truck and battery will be assembled.
• 44:52
  Whereas I believe in Kentucky, they're going to actually be manufacturing lithium
• 44:56
  ion batteries, um, with their partnership.
• 44:59
  With SK pretty interesting.
• 45:01
  We're talking about they're doing battery factories.
• 45:03
  Tesla's doing battery factory, Toyota, everybody's doing battery factory.
• 45:07
  And I guess it kind of makes sense thinking about it.
• 45:08
  Cause how are they shipping these batteries from Korea?
• 45:13
  Cause that's where SK and LG, which are the two big battery producers, how
• 45:17
  are we even moving these things around?
• 45:18
  Cause there's a lot of restrictions around the shipment of lithium batteries.
• 45:22
  To the point that a lot of lithium batteries can't be shipped if they're not
• 45:26
  in the product that they're designed for.
• 45:28
  There's a lot of restrictions, especially for air, because it's considered
• 45:31
  hazardous and dangerous material.
• 45:34
  So if they're not being able to be shipped within the product, which
• 45:37
  we know they're not, the trucks are coming off the assembly line in the U.
• 45:40
  S.
• 45:40
  These companies are then must be having to either pay.
• 45:44
  A lot of premium to go by land as much as they can, and then maybe by sea
• 45:49
  if the restrictions are different, or they're having to pay maybe a premium
• 45:52
  for proper packaging somehow these batteries if they are doing air freight.
• 45:57
  So I guess it kind of makes sense when you think about it that more and
• 45:59
  more factories are going to be popping up in different parts of the world
• 46:02
  to satisfy demand in those markets.
• 46:05
  I just want to know when I'll be able to buy the knockoff battery on
• 46:08
  Amazon for like a tenth of the price.
• 46:12
  Batteries plus version.
• 46:14
  Exactly.
• 46:14
  It's only going to work for three charges and then it only holds 20%, but,
• 46:19
  but yeah, to your point, you're right.
• 46:20
  I mean, and if they're moving them by ship, like a lot of cargo,
• 46:24
  which is still tied up in ports because remnants of COVID right.
• 46:27
  The fallout from that, I don't know how that's done.
• 46:29
  And then I wonder too, like, let's say, God forbid we have another Valdez
• 46:34
  type of incident where it's a shipping container or a ship full of lithium
• 46:38
  batteries If I remember correctly, electricity and water don't mix, right?
• 46:43
  So that can't be a good idea.
• 46:45
  You know, if something were to happen tragically.
• 46:47
  I
• 46:47
  mean, as long as there's no fire.
• 46:50
  That's the other thing.
• 46:51
  And that's what you know, I'm not a super crunchy tree hugger guy, but I am
• 46:55
  to a degree, you know, the process, you know, all the lithium and stuff that
• 46:59
  they mine and all those, and you got these batteries that, 30, 40 years later?
• 47:05
  I mean, You know, I know they can recycle.
• 47:06
  I think it's what, 70 percent of them or something with your
• 47:09
  process, but it's really expensive.
• 47:10
  Will we actually do it, but really concerns me about
• 47:13
  places like Kentucky and stuff.
• 47:15
  That's very green.
• 47:16
  And, you know, like you said, if something was to catch on fire, what
• 47:18
  was the, the Rimac and I'm not going to say it the way you're supposed
• 47:21
  to, cause I think it's pretentious, but the Rimac that, uh, no, no, no.
• 47:23
  What is it?
• 47:24
  What is it?
• 47:25
  It's remosh, I guess.
• 47:26
  What it is?
• 47:27
  I thought it was the RIMAC.
• 47:29
  I thought
• 47:29
  it was RIMAC
• 47:29
  too.
• 47:30
  RIMAC cause I'm American, but you know, the, the one that what's
• 47:34
  his face wrecked on grand tour.
• 47:36
  And they said that it burned for four days because the batteries would
• 47:40
  start to ignite and they put them out and the next one would start.
• 47:43
  So you think about something like that, you know, in the Appalachians
• 47:46
  and, you know, something happens with all those trees around and that
• 47:48
  bourbon and all that other stuff.
• 47:49
  And something catches on fire.
• 47:51
  And That could be catastrophic potentially.
• 47:53
  You know, it's, it's really scary to me.
• 47:54
  I don't know.
• 47:55
  That'll be the next California wildfire was started from Tesla that was
• 47:59
  burning for six days or something.
• 48:02
  It's not funny, but it's funny.
• 48:03
  I'm sorry.
• 48:04
  Your favorite Evie.
• 48:05
  I mean, it's not funny.
• 48:06
  I feel sorry for poor Californians, idiots starting these forest fires because.
• 48:11
  Of stupid reasons.
• 48:12
  I mean, it's a legitimate concern, actually.
• 48:14
  What if something happened, you know, like that incident in Texas, you know,
• 48:18
  allegedly we don't know who was driving or not driving and who was in which
• 48:22
  seat of that Tesla when it slammed into a tree and burst into flames.
• 48:25
  And allegedly the fire department had some trouble putting out that fire too, that
• 48:29
  it raged for several hours or whatever.
• 48:31
  Someone's driving somewhere and an accident and then they set a forest fire.
• 48:35
  It's conceivable.
• 48:36
  That's the other thing too, that I don't think we've considered either.
• 48:39
  It's the other EV, the emergency vehicles now need to be equipped with
• 48:44
  additional hazmat and electrical fire capabilities, like dealing with that.
• 48:49
  And I think the firefighters are going to have to retool their suits,
• 48:51
  you know, for electrical discharge.
• 48:53
  Increased BTU's from the fires because electrical fires are very different than,
• 48:57
  you know, fuel fires and things like that.
• 48:59
  So obviously a lot of them are getting training on that sort of stuff.
• 49:02
  And I've talked to some individuals that are volunteer firefighters and
• 49:05
  what they're going through, but now there's an added expense to the fire
• 49:08
  departments to have to deal with that.
• 49:10
  You know, Halon systems, like all this kind of stuff that they have to now
• 49:13
  incorporate onto the fire trucks when they get a report that there's a Prius that's,
• 49:17
  you know, burning on the side of the road.
• 49:19
  Well, and now imagine half of the factory is on fire.
• 49:21
  Yeah,
• 49:22
  exactly.
• 49:22
  What do you do?
• 49:23
  Yeah.
• 49:23
  Just let it burn.
• 49:24
  I think we need to send mountain man, Dan, to protest.
• 49:28
  I'll pay to
• 49:29
  fly.
• 49:29
  We'll fly him there and just, he's got to stand there with, how about
• 49:32
  naked with his boots on with a sign that says no EV factories and on
• 49:35
  the back of a square body Chevy, like,
• 49:37
  yeah, I mean, for now, if their number one method of quenching the
• 49:42
  fire is just continuous deluge, that's one thing, hopefully we don't.
• 49:47
  Now create some other sort of firefighting foam specifically for EVs, which then
• 49:52
  has a chemical impact on, you know, the world, because we see that now with the
• 49:56
  current firefighting foams, that there's groundwater contamination and these PFOAs
• 50:01
  in everybody's drinking water that are forever chemicals, essentially, they
• 50:05
  don't break down and they just tend to build up in your body and whatnot, and
• 50:08
  then can lead to adverse health effects.
• 50:10
  Uh, it's like, okay.
• 50:12
  I mean, it's great.
• 50:12
  As long as it's water, water's water's life, right?
• 50:15
  Of course, where are we getting all this infinite amount of water from also, right?
• 50:19
  Always a catch 22.
• 50:21
  It's going to become like demolition band where you wreck and the car just turns
• 50:25
  into styrofoam and that's the end of it.
• 50:27
  And you crawl out of it.
• 50:29
  I'm just seal.
• 50:30
  It'll just air seal everything.
• 50:31
  And that's the end of it.
• 50:32
  I'm sensing something here.
• 50:33
  I think we're going to put together a garage riot, GTM protest, and
• 50:36
  we'll all go to the mountain with our signs on the back in boots.
• 50:39
  I don't even own cowboy.
• 50:40
  Will
• 50:43
  you show me how to use the three seashells as well?
• 50:46
  Speaking of weird reveals, Chevy has said enough is enough.
• 50:51
  It's time to reveal the Z06.
• 50:53
  And guess what folks, if you're listening to this, On the day that
• 50:56
  it airs, October the 26th, 2021.
• 50:59
  Today's the big day.
• 51:01
  The Z06 has finally been revealed.
• 51:03
  They leaked spy photos on Instagram this month, showing everybody
• 51:07
  what it was going to look like.
• 51:08
  And I don't know, here's my bigger question.
• 51:12
  They can't even fulfill the orders of the regular Z51 Corvettes, the stingrays.
• 51:17
  How are they going to fulfill the orders of the Z06s?
• 51:21
  And I thought we weren't making Corvettes.
• 51:23
  I thought there was a stop order on those, just like there wasn't
• 51:26
  the Camaros and everything else.
• 51:28
  I am so confused.
• 51:30
  That's bizarre.
• 51:30
  I will say though, they talk about in the article, they're not sure
• 51:33
  what the engine's going to be.
• 51:35
  I don't know if you guys happen to see that.
• 51:36
  Was it an Instagram feed where somebody was at a party and they cranked one up?
• 51:39
  Flat plane crank?
• 51:41
  Yeah.
• 51:41
  I mean, just.
• 51:41
  Oh, incredible.
• 51:42
  So whoever that was, I'm sure it got fired the next day, but I mean,
• 51:46
  if that's really what it's going to sound like, and I've always preferred,
• 51:48
  I think everybody does, right?
• 51:49
  Does he have six versions of the stock versions for their looks and things?
• 51:52
  I think that's going to be fantastic.
• 51:53
  But you know, the question I have is this one, the next, you know, version, the,
• 51:59
  the ZR one, like, how are they going to get faster than what they already are?
• 52:02
  I mean, you know, you get the hybrid, the stingray one.
• 52:04
  I mean, the stock one's already what, three seconds, zero 60.
• 52:07
  So what is it going to be?
• 52:08
  2.
• 52:08
  9 and 2.
• 52:09
  8, 2.
• 52:10
  7.
• 52:10
  So I wonder if they're having kind of a crisis again, similar to what
• 52:13
  we were talking about before with, okay, we came out with the news,
• 52:17
  you know, C8 and it's super fast and everybody's going, Oh my God, it's
• 52:20
  super fast, but now where do we go?
• 52:22
  We can't go much faster than this.
• 52:23
  So
• 52:23
  there's, there's two problems with the new Corvette outside of the million
• 52:27
  recalls that we joked about throughout this year that the C8 already has.
• 52:31
  The other problems that it has are, I still argue that the Corvette community
• 52:35
  isn't prepared for this car, right?
• 52:37
  It's really leaning towards a younger generation of folks.
• 52:41
  And I'm not trying to like stereotype Corvette drivers
• 52:44
  and all jokes aside, right?
• 52:45
  New balances and gold chains and gray hair and all that.
• 52:48
  But it's just.
• 52:49
  So different, I still argue they should have a classic front
• 52:53
  engine rear drive Corvette.
• 52:55
  The C7 was just so good.
• 52:58
  Like the C8, I haven't gotten a chance to coach one yet.
• 53:00
  Maybe I will.
• 53:01
  I just, I'm not convinced.
• 53:03
  The other thing that doesn't convince me is they tried really, really hard to
• 53:07
  copy the Ferrari and the, and the NSX.
• 53:10
  And I don't like split exhaust.
• 53:13
  V8 flat plane V8 or otherwise.
• 53:16
  I don't think they sound right.
• 53:18
  It's because of the short headers and everything else.
• 53:20
  It just sounds like two really angry four bangers running together.
• 53:24
  And I just, I don't know.
• 53:25
  I don't think though, you know, you talk
• 53:27
  about
• 53:27
  are the credit owners ready for it?
• 53:29
  I think a lot of these, they're going to be really expensive, right?
• 53:32
  I'm sure they're going to be a buck and a quarter.
• 53:34
  You know, 150, I think they're going to go right from the showroom, right?
• 53:37
  And somebody's garage, you know, some retired folks that keep it and
• 53:40
  take it out to their cars and coffee.
• 53:41
  So what happened to the 69 grand bargain basement entry Corvette that was supposed
• 53:46
  to be so affordable for everybody.
• 53:48
  Is it because of COVID that now they're all 150 grand?
• 53:52
  Because even the regular Corvettes right now, if you can get one are ridiculous.
• 53:56
  They were losing 20 grand per car on the original one.
• 54:00
  Something like that.
• 54:01
  So, you know, they knew they were selling them on their market.
• 54:03
  I think they realized, Oh, we can ask a lot more money for these cars.
• 54:06
  Now that we've got the initial PR buzz out of them and let's do them.
• 54:08
  I see them all the time now, which is crazy.
• 54:10
  And I don't know how, cause you know, if you still can't get them, there's three
• 54:14
  in the Mazda dealer lot down the road.
• 54:16
  You know, I granted now they've been out for a year or something,
• 54:18
  but if they're in that high demand, so I think they're pretty cool.
• 54:21
  I think they still have an identity crisis front end rear end kind of thing,
• 54:24
  but, uh, I'm kind of excited to see
• 54:26
  that rear end is.
• 54:27
  Just tragic.
• 54:28
  I don't think the Z06 is going to make it better from that spy photo though.
• 54:32
  The wing looked different.
• 54:33
  So much like that civic type bar we talked about, it's getting another
• 54:36
  ridiculous wing upgrade on the back.
• 54:38
  So maybe that'll help that Camaro.
• 54:39
  They grafted onto the back of it though.
• 54:41
  Just
• 54:42
  in the perception though, did you see the picture I posted on garage
• 54:44
  ride of the guy that I was behind that said L Lambo on his tag?
• 54:48
  Oh yeah.
• 54:49
  Yeah.
• 54:49
  I don't know about that.
• 54:50
  Yeah, I don't know about that either.
• 54:52
  I mean, at the end of the day, what I do know, and I'm still
• 54:54
  holding out hope for is the 400Z.
• 54:57
  If they're right about the price and the car is as fast as they say
• 55:00
  it's going to be, it looks good.
• 55:02
  It's going to sound good.
• 55:03
  It's going to be good.
• 55:05
  I'm putting a lot of faith in Renault, right?
• 55:07
  The parent company of Nissan to get this right, to do the heritage thing.
• 55:10
  They've done a good resto on that.
• 55:12
  If the price point is anywhere between 50 and 60, I think that car is going
• 55:16
  to sell like crazy and it's going to be that replacement for the Corvette, right?
• 55:21
  That folks like us want, unless you buy a used C7.
• 55:24
  Switching gears back to Ford for a moment.
• 55:26
  Remember last month, I mentioned the Maverick and we talked about the factory
• 55:30
  in India that was closing and Ford was losing money and apparently the
• 55:33
  Maverick was supposed to built there.
• 55:34
  Guess what?
• 55:35
  It's going to be built in America.
• 55:37
  And the guys from Jalopnik have already driven one.
• 55:39
  I thought the article was rather entertaining.
• 55:41
  He does a really good job of comparing this Maverick to what it could be.
• 55:47
  So he compares it to like a Spitfire.
• 55:49
  That's a Triumph for those that don't know.
• 55:51
  He compares it to a previous generation F 150.
• 55:54
  He compares it to the Ford Capri.
• 55:56
  He compares it to all sorts of other things to say where
• 55:59
  it got its design inspiration.
• 56:01
  I look at it and go, this is the Ranger.
• 56:04
  The real Ranger that we were supposed to get, not this other
• 56:08
  thing with a four cylinder.
• 56:09
  That's the size of an F one 50.
• 56:11
  I think it's cool.
• 56:12
  And I do agree with him in his early part of the statement where he compares it
• 56:16
  to the BW combi, which is for those that don't know the type two Vanagon as a.
• 56:22
  truck without a cap on it.
• 56:24
  The Maverick has a very similar look to it.
• 56:26
  I think it's kind of cool and you could do some really tasteful mods to it to give
• 56:32
  it that combi kind of feel, especially out in California with some surfboards
• 56:36
  and different kind of rims and things.
• 56:37
  If you're looking for a pickup truck of that style, is it useful for every day?
• 56:42
  I don't know, but it's still going to be relatively large.
• 56:46
  Probably Canyon, Colorado size.
• 56:48
  Like I said, the way the Ranger should have been not the size of the old F 150.
• 56:54
  That blue didn't help.
• 56:55
  Yeah, I don't know, man.
• 56:57
  I mean, it's boring to me.
• 56:59
  I, you know, I think the article is kind of neat, but I think it's a little
• 57:01
  bit of a stretch where, you know, he talks about the Capri front end
• 57:05
  piece, but he's trying to jazzercise
• 57:07
  it, right?
• 57:07
  You're like, ah, it's so exciting.
• 57:10
  Yeah, I mean,
• 57:10
  I'll say this.
• 57:11
  I think this is all you really say.
• 57:12
  It starts at 19, nine, you know, it is your go to Hertz and rent a car.
• 57:16
  That's what they're going to pull around with.
• 57:18
  I mean, most of the ones in the picture here have the steel wheels on them.
• 57:20
  So the shape's a little odd though, to me, it's kind of like first gen Ridge line.
• 57:24
  Yes.
• 57:25
  Yeah.
• 57:25
  I see that too.
• 57:26
  Yeah.
• 57:27
  I mean, I do like where Ford's going with the trucks and stuff.
• 57:29
  They're like, the Broncos are cool.
• 57:30
  Even the little one, I think it has potential, man.
• 57:32
  I think like this to me could be the next like kid tuner truck, you
• 57:36
  know, the nineties, the little C10 or whatever, everybody has C10s
• 57:40
  and the Tacomas and all those, the Jimmy's and whatnot.
• 57:43
  Yeah.
• 57:44
  So I think this has a place in the market for sure.
• 57:46
  I didn't see all the engine options.
• 57:48
  What is a four cylinder?
• 57:50
  Was there a EcoBoost
• 57:51
  like from the Mustang and from the Bronco and all those.
• 57:54
  So I mean, it's fine.
• 57:55
  I mean, this would be like your 16 year old son needs something new and reliable.
• 57:58
  We'll go buy him one of these.
• 58:00
  Exactly.
• 58:01
  Like everything else, Ford is changing, right?
• 58:03
  We're starting to see, I heard somebody say the other day, they understand now my
• 58:08
  comments about why the Mach E looks just like an Escape because it's built on it.
• 58:13
  I mean, there's some platform sharing going on with Ford.
• 58:15
  Good for them.
• 58:17
  You know, that's a good thing.
• 58:18
  That's a smart move following after the Germans, but they are
• 58:21
  innovating and there's some really cool features on the F 150 that.
• 58:24
  We didn't really know about another funny article from Jalopnik.
• 58:28
  It's kind of a lesser known capability of the F 150 and they've been teasing
• 58:33
  this idea of self scaling trucks for a while and Ford has actually done it.
• 58:39
  And the only way you can tell.
• 58:41
  That it's active and working is by looking at the rear taillights.
• 58:44
  There's a set of LEDs buried in the inner part of the rear taillight that light up
• 58:49
  like a progress bar to let you know where your toe limit and your toe capacity is.
• 58:54
  And I actually think as somebody who toes all the time, you're
• 58:57
  telling the race car and everything.
• 58:58
  I think that's brilliant because I don't have a way of judging
• 59:01
  that other than with my eyes.
• 59:03
  And then my air suspension kind of takes care of the rest of it.
• 59:05
  So I'm kind of wondering, you know, when can I adapt this to something else?
• 59:09
  You know, I think this is really, really cool.
• 59:10
  I think that when fifties are super cool, always have, I think it's amazing.
• 59:14
  And what I think is really cool, like with the scale and the tail lights
• 59:17
  and a lot of the things that the truck manufacturers are doing, they're trying
• 59:20
  to outdo each other and all of the features they can come up with, right?
• 59:23
  How many ways can I.
• 59:24
  Create a foldable tailgate that has speakers in it and steps in
• 59:28
  it and everything else to me.
• 59:29
  You know, it's crazy to think that in a lot of ways they already are pickup
• 59:33
  trucks out there are some of the most technologically advanced vehicles
• 59:36
  on the road, which is pretty crazy.
• 59:37
  And what is it?
• 59:38
  Ford sells 2, 500 F.
• 59:40
  One fifties a day, it's like
• 59:42
  the fastest selling car in North America.
• 59:44
  Good for them.
• 59:44
  And, you know, I think, you know, that, that market obviously is very
• 59:47
  competitive, not as much for them because they're crushing it, but it's
• 59:50
  these little things that are going to keep them, you know, ahead of the
• 59:52
  pack that, you know, there's all these neat little features that people need.
• 59:56
  You know, it's neat, you, like you just said, you could use
• 59:58
  that in towing or you imagine somebody doing something like that.
• 1:00:00
  It's not just a flashy something.
• 1:00:02
  It's not LEDs under them or neons underneath.
• 1:00:05
  It's something usable.
• 1:00:06
  So I think it's really, really cool.
• 1:00:07
  Now it's time to move on to Brad's favorite section.
• 1:00:10
  Lost and Found, which covers hidden secrets, historical
• 1:00:15
  news, and things like that.
• 1:00:16
  So first up, this month, a video came across my desk.
• 1:00:19
  I believe it was from Garage Riot, and it is the most interesting, over dramatized,
• 1:00:24
  and boring video I have ever watched.
• 1:00:27
  It all wraps itself around a long lost, AMC, American Voter Corporation, AMX 3.
• 1:00:35
  For some of you, you're all groaning, going, Oh, the
• 1:00:37
  gremlin, oh, the pacer, ugh.
• 1:00:39
  You know, yes, they're all crap, I get it.
• 1:00:41
  However, the AMX 3 is special in the fact that it is a prototype.
• 1:00:46
  It was built from 1969 1970.
• 1:00:48
  There are six different versions of it that were publicly seen and released.
• 1:00:52
  There were nine total.
• 1:00:54
  And apparently the backstory on this car and the story, this whole story
• 1:00:58
  could be told in like three minutes, but they drag it out in this video.
• 1:01:02
  But some guy is, I don't know, on Facebook marketplace or something.
• 1:01:06
  And he stumbled across this dude with this giant, like Clown bow tie thing.
• 1:01:10
  And I don't even know why he's shopping for this in the background.
• 1:01:13
  He happens to be a car guy.
• 1:01:14
  And he's like, wait, is that an AMX?
• 1:01:16
  And they had heard some rumors about this car being lost in
• 1:01:19
  Michigan, somewhere in this net.
• 1:01:21
  And then they discover the car.
• 1:01:22
  Right.
• 1:01:22
  And so the car was actually built by Carmen in Germany, who's famous for
• 1:01:27
  also building many other famous cars, like the Scirocco and some of the
• 1:01:32
  Audis and BMWs and things like that.
• 1:01:33
  So there.
• 1:01:34
  A coach builder and so they helped a MC build this mid-engine two-door
• 1:01:39
  sports car that very much looks like a Pantera, just smaller, right?
• 1:01:44
  So a ditch Mazo Pantera.
• 1:01:46
  And so pretty cool car.
• 1:01:47
  Not a lot of history on it.
• 1:01:49
  Only resources out there outside of the A MC club and things like that.
• 1:01:53
  You go to Wikipedia and there's a big writeup on these cars and their evolution
• 1:01:57
  and BMW was involved with them and, uh, in Carmen and Volkswagen, et cetera.
• 1:02:01
  So a lot of hands in building these prototypes.
• 1:02:04
  It just never really went anywhere because AMC didn't last too much
• 1:02:08
  longer into the seventies before they got absorbed by Jeep and Chrysler and
• 1:02:12
  the Lee Iacocca era of Dodge, right?
• 1:02:15
  And Plymouth and all those, those companies being rebranded and reformed
• 1:02:18
  and amalgamated, which by the way, guys, if you didn't know, Jeep was part of AMC
• 1:02:23
  a lot, which is why Chrysler bought them.
• 1:02:25
  But at any rate, moving on from that, what other things?
• 1:02:30
  Did we find that we can buy on places like bring a trailer and
• 1:02:33
  cars and bids there, Donovan?
• 1:02:35
  Oh, there's a fairly low mile GTI right now.
• 1:02:39
  It's an 84 with 63, 000 miles that I've got my, uh, papers on.
• 1:02:44
  Car is beautiful.
• 1:02:45
  It looks, you know, from the pictures, it looks almost Mint.
• 1:02:48
  It has horrible, horrible.
• 1:02:50
  What are those Chrome side panels on the side?
• 1:02:53
  Mm-Hmm?
• 1:02:53
  . That R, was that a factory option?
• 1:02:55
  I don't remember it being one, but it could have been.
• 1:02:58
  But all the ones I knew were, they only came in three colors.
• 1:03:01
  Silver, red, and black.
• 1:03:02
  And then your interior choices were black, blue, jean or pumpkin?
• 1:03:06
  Pumpkin.
• 1:03:06
  I don't think I've seen the pumpkin in.
• 1:03:07
  So I'm, uh, let's see.
• 1:03:09
  We've got three days left.
• 1:03:10
  It's a 27 5, um, 27
• 1:03:12
  5 for a mark.
• 1:03:13
  One GTI.
• 1:03:14
  Are you nuts?
• 1:03:14
  You can buy a golf cart for that price.
• 1:03:16
  I'm betting this car goes over 40, so, uh, pretty cool.
• 1:03:21
  But, uh, yeah, I'd like to, I've been looking for one for a while and I think,
• 1:03:25
  you know, it's probably gotten to the point where there are more than I'm
• 1:03:27
  interested in, in buying particularly this one, but we'll see, you never know.
• 1:03:31
  Maybe one day I hate
• 1:03:32
  to say if I was standing in your garage and you have the keys to
• 1:03:35
  the Gallardo in one hand, the keys to a GTI and the other one.
• 1:03:38
  Probably going to pick the GTI, just letting you know,
• 1:03:42
  that's the car enthusiast though.
• 1:03:43
  Right.
• 1:03:43
  Then, you know, that's, that's exactly it.
• 1:03:45
  But there's also, I just saw there's a 32 mile BMW M4 GTS on here, which
• 1:03:50
  is pretty interesting as well.
• 1:03:52
  I don't need another F 80.
• 1:03:53
  BMW, but I actually shopped those before I bought the Gallardo.
• 1:03:56
  That was consideration.
• 1:03:57
  And, uh, I'm glad I did.
• 1:03:59
  It's
• 1:03:59
  only 4 million.
• 1:04:00
  I'll bring a trailer, right?
• 1:04:01
  They're in the nineties usually, but this one, yeah, with 32 miles, it's probably
• 1:04:05
  going to be something stupid, but yeah, it was too close to what I already have.
• 1:04:07
  The other thing on here, I'll just mention cause I saw it is
• 1:04:09
  there's an old BMW bike on here.
• 1:04:11
  If anybody listening has one or knows of one, I want one, I don't want it running.
• 1:04:17
  And if the engine doesn't work, that's cool.
• 1:04:18
  I just think they're cool to look at.
• 1:04:19
  I like to park it in the man cave somewhere.
• 1:04:21
  But yeah, you're
• 1:04:22
  talking BMW motorcycle, right?
• 1:04:24
  Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:25
  Sorry.
• 1:04:26
  Not bike.
• 1:04:26
  Like we were talking earlier, but yeah, pre 1960s motorcycle.
• 1:04:30
  I also saw that Pablo Escobar's.
• 1:04:34
  911 was for sale.
• 1:04:35
  Yeah.
• 1:04:36
  Everybody's going through the jokes right now in their head.
• 1:04:38
  For sure.
• 1:04:38
  Right.
• 1:04:39
  So the back history on this thing, I looked at the pictures ago.
• 1:04:41
  Oh, I know that car.
• 1:04:42
  That's Emo's car.
• 1:04:43
  And what do I mean by Emo's car?
• 1:04:45
  Emerson Fittipaldi's car.
• 1:04:46
  So that was a Penske built 9 11.
• 1:04:49
  I rock RSR international race of champions, something we don't do anymore.
• 1:04:53
  And I am missed.
• 1:04:54
  Deeply.
• 1:04:54
  I thought IROC was super cool to see all the champs from all the different
• 1:04:58
  disciplines going at each other in different cars, every year, MO sold
• 1:05:02
  that car to a Porsche aficionado who ran a Rolex almost kind of thing.
• 1:05:05
  And I don't know how it ended up in Pablo Escobar's hands.
• 1:05:08
  And then eventually made its way back to the States in the nineties.
• 1:05:11
  Apparently the car has gone through a heck of an evolution to get
• 1:05:14
  it back to its original state.
• 1:05:15
  Apparently Escobar had a wide bodied it to a nine 35 style,
• 1:05:20
  you know, a bunch of other stuff.
• 1:05:21
  Nothing that I.
• 1:05:23
  Would take issue with because it's all classic nine 11 stuff, but for
• 1:05:25
  the purist to say, this is Emerson Fittipaldi's IROC car, obviously we
• 1:05:29
  got to bring it back to standard.
• 1:05:31
  The going rate on that auction at the time of reading the article was
• 1:05:36
  a low, low, low price of 856, 000.
• 1:05:40
  1, 000.
• 1:05:42
  So yeah, let me, I'm going to get to, but speaking of other
• 1:05:44
  weird things, when I bring up the word winkle, what do you think?
• 1:05:49
  Not wanker, not wanker.
• 1:05:51
  Oh, okay.
• 1:05:52
  That's different.
• 1:05:53
  I think
• 1:05:54
  in the auto mechanic shop,
• 1:05:58
  wanker working on the
• 1:05:59
  winkle or you think Mazda, right?
• 1:06:01
  You immediately go RX seven, right?
• 1:06:03
  Anything rotary power for those that don't know, or is it broken?
• 1:06:07
  Not really.
• 1:06:08
  What is it?
• 1:06:10
  Frederick Winkle or whatever his name is.
• 1:06:12
  Fred Winkle.
• 1:06:13
  He designed this engine apparently when he was 17 years old, probably
• 1:06:17
  playing with a spirograph, but actually it was invented in the 1920s.
• 1:06:20
  He patented way back when, you know, the first Winkle powered cars or rotary
• 1:06:24
  engine cars came from NSU and Mazda just about the same time, 1961, 1964.
• 1:06:29
  As I've always said, if the Germans, Thought it was a good idea.
• 1:06:32
  They would have hung on to it.
• 1:06:33
  So, you know, the Wankel has forever lived on in Mazda's portfolio into the RX cars.
• 1:06:39
  But did you know that there was a motorcycle powered by a Wankel?
• 1:06:43
  Is that better or worse?
• 1:06:46
  So when you watch this video, which is kind of weird because
• 1:06:49
  it's got a male Siri voice.
• 1:06:52
  And then there's actual footage of bikes running at like motocross
• 1:06:55
  events and things like that.
• 1:06:56
  At first I was like, that's just a regular old two stroke.
• 1:06:58
  Like, why do I, what do I care?
• 1:07:00
  And then suddenly it does like 27, 000 RPM.
• 1:07:03
  And you're like, well, that's really, really different.
• 1:07:05
  So as you dig into this very long video that came to us via mountain
• 1:07:09
  man, Dan, part of his whole mountain view thing that he's doing, it's a
• 1:07:12
  single rotor Wankel powered dirt bike.
• 1:07:15
  It's mounted horizontally in there.
• 1:07:18
  It's all this.
• 1:07:19
  Really interesting engineering to make it work and make it fit.
• 1:07:21
  So it's not super huge and doesn't have like 12 spark plugs hanging out from it.
• 1:07:25
  It's actually quite compact and almost looks like an AC motor
• 1:07:28
  attached to the bike and the way it works and made by a company called
• 1:07:32
  Hercules, which I know Hercules from the pedal bikes from England.
• 1:07:36
  So I didn't do enough research to see if there was a connection
• 1:07:39
  there between the two brands.
• 1:07:40
  They were, it was just neat.
• 1:07:41
  But at the end of the day, I'm like, whatever it's.
• 1:07:44
  It's a rotary and it's a dirt bike and I wouldn't know what to do with it.
• 1:07:48
  A couple fun facts, right?
• 1:07:49
  He was not trained at a university.
• 1:07:51
  Pretty interesting for a guy that created that.
• 1:07:53
  Like Dr.
• 1:07:53
  Porsche?
• 1:07:54
  Yeah, he was a big time Nazi sympathizer, participator guy,
• 1:07:58
  but did give us the 787B, so.
• 1:08:01
  Well,
• 1:08:02
  indirectly, I suppose.
• 1:08:03
  Indirectly, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:04
  That's, that's by, uh, by proxy.
• 1:08:06
  Well, that wraps up Lost and Found for this month.
• 1:08:08
  Well, now it's time to move on to random new EVs and concept cars.
• 1:08:12
  But we dovetail right into a Restomod and there's another British company
• 1:08:17
  converting classic cars to EVs.
• 1:08:20
  And this time it's Aston Martin DBs and we're talking DBs 4s, 5s, and 6s.
• 1:08:28
  They're starting with the DB6s, which not to be confused with the famous
• 1:08:32
  James Bond DB5, is a slightly larger version with similar lines to it.
• 1:08:36
  What I got out of this, super awesome, but the price tag.
• 1:08:41
  Is extremely hefty because a number one, you have to buy a
• 1:08:44
  rare Aston Martin to begin with, and then you have to convert it.
• 1:08:48
  It's going to cost you upwards of anybody want to take a guess.
• 1:08:51
  Million bucks.
• 1:08:52
  Yes, sir.
• 1:08:53
  That's a million dollars for an EV.
• 1:08:55
  How many Teslas can I buy for that?
• 1:08:56
  So, okay, I'm going to compare this to a 911.
• 1:09:00
  How many 911s do you see these days that somebody cut and put wide fenders on
• 1:09:04
  and ruined a car that was once valuable?
• 1:09:07
  Because at the time, they thought that was the cool thing to do.
• 1:09:10
  And now you look at it and go, Oh my God, you destroyed that car.
• 1:09:13
  That's what I see.
• 1:09:13
  But
• 1:09:13
  you have to look at it for the time period.
• 1:09:15
  If you're looking at the seventies and eighties, they made a lot of 911s.
• 1:09:20
  There's a lot of nine elevens.
• 1:09:21
  You could say the same thing.
• 1:09:22
  Why'd you turn that piece of historical, you know, investment into a race car.
• 1:09:26
  There's a lot of nine elevens that have been thrashed and trashed,
• 1:09:29
  so there's so many of them.
• 1:09:30
  Unless it's Emerson Fit, Aldi's nine 11.
• 1:09:33
  Does it matter if it was cut up?
• 1:09:34
  It was just somebody's base model nine 11 At the end of the day,
• 1:09:37
  not, yeah, you're right.
• 1:09:38
  Not at the time, but now.
• 1:09:39
  But you know, to me it's like, you know, I looked at, I think we talked
• 1:09:42
  about this on graduate as well, you know, I've been looking at EV swap in
• 1:09:45
  the nine 11, the 73, and you know, the thing that appeals to me about that is.
• 1:09:49
  You know, there's a company that does a swap, but the thing that's
• 1:09:52
  great about it is it's a direct bolt.
• 1:09:54
  There's no cutting the body.
• 1:09:56
  There's no modifying the chassis that really appeals to me.
• 1:09:59
  Right.
• 1:09:59
  And the kit is something like 15, 000, which is basically the cost
• 1:10:02
  of a rebuild of the motor itself.
• 1:10:04
  You got a car like mine that the motor has been sitting outside the car.
• 1:10:08
  Since 1986.
• 1:10:10
  Maybe that's the way to go.
• 1:10:11
  But what I really like about that is you can take it back out.
• 1:10:13
  You didn't hurt anything.
• 1:10:14
  I have to assume that's what they've done here, but I don't understand
• 1:10:18
  the million dollar price tag.
• 1:10:19
  If I can convert a nine 11 for under 20, 000, what kind of batteries exactly
• 1:10:25
  are we using for this Aston Martin here?
• 1:10:27
  That's a million dollars.
• 1:10:28
  They're shaken, not stirred, right?
• 1:10:30
  Special ones,
• 1:10:31
  or they're doing some special body work and some reconfiguring of this car that
• 1:10:35
  You know, is going to take it out of collector view in the future years, if
• 1:10:39
  they try to cut it back or turn it back.
• 1:10:40
  So I don't know, it sounds cool, but then again, you know, it gets back
• 1:10:43
  to lots of things we've talked about.
• 1:10:45
  If a real car enthusiast wants that feel, wants that sound, I think you're
• 1:10:49
  going the wrong way in the DV six.
• 1:10:51
  And again, after 2030, somebody is going to look at this when they're
• 1:10:55
  all of their cars or EVs and go.
• 1:10:57
  Man, I wish this still had the petrol engine in it because that's different.
• 1:11:00
  So how much
• 1:11:01
  does it devalue a classic, even though they're going to turn around and sell
• 1:11:04
  it for a million bucks, it's not going to be worth a million dollars, right?
• 1:11:07
  Cause let's face it, it's no longer in American terms, a
• 1:11:10
  numbers matching car, not that.
• 1:11:12
  Older European cars had a whole numbers matching system like the Americans
• 1:11:16
  did, but it kind of takes away from it.
• 1:11:18
  But so yes, from the outside, it's still db six or db five, but yeah,
• 1:11:21
  it's not James Bond's right now, even though Q might've built an
• 1:11:25
  Evie db five for, for Sean Connery.
• 1:11:28
  Well, and it's crazy because db sixes are half a million dollars, right?
• 1:11:31
  You know, you buy one and you do that to it.
• 1:11:33
  And then, you know, you got to swap it back, but it's crazy.
• 1:11:36
  Well, I heard that Volvos.
• 1:11:37
  Making a game change.
• 1:11:39
  Apparently they're getting on with the EV revolution as well.
• 1:11:42
  And I think they've made a commitment to go electric only by 2030.
• 1:11:47
  But along with that, they're also making a sustainability commitment.
• 1:11:51
  And so they're switching some of their interior materials of construction
• 1:11:55
  to more sustainable textiles.
• 1:11:58
  So.
• 1:11:58
  I'm kind of surprised.
• 1:11:59
  I didn't realize that Volvo was still offering real leather interiors.
• 1:12:04
  Cause I thought pretty much most everybody had moved away from real leather to,
• 1:12:08
  you know, synthetic leather, which is nothing but plastic aside from your
• 1:12:11
  Ferraris or your Porsches or, or, you know, something very high end.
• 1:12:14
  So kudos for them, but also more kudos for them, I guess, for not.
• 1:12:18
  Wanting to continue to slaughter cows to make car seats.
• 1:12:22
  I think they've got a whole slew of materials that they're going to use
• 1:12:24
  that are more sustainable recycled pet bottles, polyethylene, not pet like
• 1:12:30
  an animal, but PET bottles, corks from wine industry, materials like that,
• 1:12:35
  that are more bio and recyclable.
• 1:12:36
  They're going to use to make interior textiles essentially.
• 1:12:41
  And apparently they will still offer some, I didn't realize either.
• 1:12:44
  Apparently they have wool interiors, I guess.
• 1:12:47
  Maybe there's some wool in, in some of their fabrics, but that's going to
• 1:12:51
  be itchy there.
• 1:12:53
  Well, it depends.
• 1:12:53
  Some, some of it can be woven quite smooth, but yeah.
• 1:12:56
  Well, people complain about leather being hot in the summer.
• 1:12:59
  What is a wool
• 1:13:01
  set of
• 1:13:01
  seats going to be like,
• 1:13:02
  I don't know.
• 1:13:03
  There's so many things shocking me in this, in this article.
• 1:13:05
  They're also committing to making sure that I guess whatever sheep farms
• 1:13:10
  that are getting their sheared wool.
• 1:13:13
  It's certified responsible wool sourcing.
• 1:13:17
  Does the
• 1:13:17
  Volvo come with like a full history, medical shots and
• 1:13:20
  like adoption papers too?
• 1:13:22
  I mean, it's like an episode of Portlandia when you go and buy a new Volvo, right?
• 1:13:27
  Here's the problem though.
• 1:13:28
  What does it smell like?
• 1:13:29
  Like sheep,
• 1:13:30
  well, your seats might smell like maybe a fine aged wine.
• 1:13:33
  If it's coming from the corks, just kidding.
• 1:13:35
  Well, they're calling
• 1:13:36
  this new textile Nordico, if I pronounce that correctly.
• 1:13:39
  And you're right.
• 1:13:39
  It's made from a combination of different recycled materials.
• 1:13:42
  I just have a feeling that you're going to get in the car and go cool.
• 1:13:46
  This feels like when they make a playground out of recycled tires.
• 1:13:50
  No,
• 1:13:50
  you know, probably it's going to feel like pleather.
• 1:13:53
  I also think it's a lot along the lines of that mini Cooper that we talked about
• 1:13:57
  where they call that the strip or that guy designed things out of cork and
• 1:14:00
  other materials in that mini Cooper that we joked about, you know, who's going
• 1:14:04
  to buy that stripped down race car.
• 1:14:05
  But now it sounds like Volvo might be taking a page out of that book.
• 1:14:08
  I mean, honestly, as long as the touch sensation isn't gross,
• 1:14:13
  weird, you know, can't be any worse than that.
• 1:14:17
  Soft touch stuff from the early two thousands that every European car had,
• 1:14:21
  which is great until, you know, 15 to 20 years later, it becomes a sticky
• 1:14:25
  nightmare mess that stains everything.
• 1:14:27
  But anyway, digress.
• 1:14:28
  I mean, as long as it's not a weird feeling, who cares?
• 1:14:31
  I mean, it's done.
• 1:14:32
  Better that we find a use for all this plastic and waste that we're generating,
• 1:14:36
  that's, you know, more sustainable.
• 1:14:38
  And if they can then re recycle the materials in the future, I mean,
• 1:14:42
  that's just a win for the environment.
• 1:14:44
  So, I mean, as long as it's not terrible, I don't see a problem with it.
• 1:14:48
  I mean, good on them for innovating in that space.
• 1:14:50
  What does it smell like?
• 1:14:52
  I don't know!
• 1:14:54
  Crayons!
• 1:14:54
  That's what everybody says Volkswagen smell like after a while.
• 1:14:58
  It's true they do smell like old crayons.
• 1:14:59
  It's weird.
• 1:15:00
  It's gonna have a smell, right?
• 1:15:01
  Every car has a smell, and like, all E36 M3s smell a certain way, all, you know,
• 1:15:06
  certain whatever smell the same way.
• 1:15:08
  It's gonna have a smell, especially as it starts to break down.
• 1:15:10
  Well, as long as it's not
• 1:15:11
  offensive, who cares?
• 1:15:13
  I don't know.
• 1:15:13
  What does partially broken down plastic smell like?
• 1:15:15
  Not good.
• 1:15:16
  Well, moving on, I'm going to bring up a name that some of you may know, and
• 1:15:21
  others may not Gordon Murray awkwardly pause for you to guess who that is,
• 1:15:26
  former designer of McLaren has spun off and started to develop his own cars.
• 1:15:31
  The very first one he designed, he calls it the T 50.
• 1:15:34
  And now he's introducing a cheaper version, even though the T 50 isn't
• 1:15:37
  available for anybody called the T 33.
• 1:15:39
  So I'm already kind of thinking like, what?
• 1:15:40
  Tesla S versus Tesla three and all this.
• 1:15:43
  I bring this car up.
• 1:15:45
  I was digging around a little bit and maybe it was the gods of the interweb, you
• 1:15:48
  know, targeted ads and things like that.
• 1:15:50
  And things coming across my desk.
• 1:15:52
  I happen to be having a conversation with, and spoiler alert here,
• 1:15:56
  Gonzalo, the CEO of heel tread.
• 1:15:59
  And he mentioned this as his.
• 1:16:01
  You know, sexiest car of all time poster on his wall.
• 1:16:03
  This is the car he strives to get.
• 1:16:06
  He wants this T 50 Gordon Murray.
• 1:16:09
  And so as I was digging around, I discovered all this other stuff about it.
• 1:16:12
  I think it's beautiful.
• 1:16:13
  The first time I saw it, I was like, wow, it looks like the modern
• 1:16:15
  interpretation of the F1 in that orange, that bright orange color.
• 1:16:18
  I think is.
• 1:16:19
  It's gorgeous, the silver, a little less, but let's be honest.
• 1:16:23
  It is, it is a newer version of the F1, which I think is really, really cool.
• 1:16:26
  And the back I think is fantastic.
• 1:16:29
  It's interesting.
• 1:16:29
  How much is the T33 going to be?
• 1:16:31
  And I don't see an Exxon like performance wise.
• 1:16:34
  Nope.
• 1:16:34
  I don't, I don't think there's really anything out there.
• 1:16:36
  Cause there's not a whole lot of information on the T50 either.
• 1:16:39
  I know that production will be limited to about a hundred units.
• 1:16:42
  So, you know, that when they're building cars, boutique like that, you know, sub
• 1:16:46
  1000 numbers, they're going to go for it.
• 1:16:48
  Astronomical pricing.
• 1:16:50
  I mean, I'm going to guess here 250k easily.
• 1:16:53
  It's got to be more than that.
• 1:16:55
  I'm looking at the T 50 Niki Lauda version with the four liter B12.
• 1:16:59
  There we go.
• 1:17:00
  That's going to be incredible.
• 1:17:01
  That's the big, is there a fan in the back?
• 1:17:04
  I can't quite figure that out.
• 1:17:05
  Yeah.
• 1:17:05
  That's like this weird chaparral thing that they're doing
• 1:17:07
  with the fan in the back.
• 1:17:09
  And if you notice this, like you mentioned about the F1, because I
• 1:17:12
  believe Gordon Murray was involved even way back then with McLaren, it has that
• 1:17:15
  almost centered seating position with the offset driver's seat and all that.
• 1:17:19
  So it's almost a single seat cockpit and, you know, Lambo style doors and whatnot.
• 1:17:24
  So it is an interesting design.
• 1:17:25
  You're right.
• 1:17:26
  It's kind of a modern version of the F1, not a fan of low offset wheels.
• 1:17:30
  I just.
• 1:17:31
  I miss the deep dish wheels of the 80s and 90s.
• 1:17:36
  It has some Pagani look to it too from the rear.
• 1:17:39
  I mean, he's definitely borrowing some design cues.
• 1:17:41
  I think the headlights look like he stole them right off of a 918.
• 1:17:44
  You know, it's just, there's only a couple of designs at the end of the day, right?
• 1:17:48
  I'm not saying it's ugly, but I feel like I've seen some of this before.
• 1:17:51
  I think that's a good point.
• 1:17:52
  The more you look at it, I saw it a few weeks ago and then I
• 1:17:55
  saw it again earlier this week.
• 1:17:56
  It does start to look a little bit familiar, which is concerning.
• 1:18:00
  Right.
• 1:18:00
  You know, you see something and maybe the first time you're like, I don't know.
• 1:18:04
  And then it grows on you and you start to appreciate that.
• 1:18:06
  This is kind of the opposite to me.
• 1:18:07
  It was, it was kind of hot flash at the beginning.
• 1:18:09
  I wonder how sustainable that is, right.
• 1:18:11
  You start to like really looking at the side of you now you're
• 1:18:13
  like, it's a proportion, right.
• 1:18:15
  But yeah, I love the interior, you know, obviously being kind of an independent.
• 1:18:19
  You know, boutique manufacturer, they can't do all the crazy electronics.
• 1:18:21
  So I like all the toggle switches on the ride.
• 1:18:23
  Like the old style, just flip switches are really, really cool.
• 1:18:26
  I bet it's amazing to drive.
• 1:18:28
  That is not my cup of tea.
• 1:18:29
  And the rear end is not particularly attractive.
• 1:18:32
  Kind of reminiscent of the GT40 that has that Angry Birds rear
• 1:18:37
  end look.
• 1:18:37
  I give you that.
• 1:18:38
  I give you that.
• 1:18:39
  I mean, like I see, I see the Pagani in there too, you know, where that fan is.
• 1:18:42
  Think about those four exhaust pipes coming up the middle.
• 1:18:45
  It's like the same thing, you know?
• 1:18:46
  So it's odd, but I'm curious to see what the numbers are again, nothing about
• 1:18:50
  whether it's going to be a hybrid or if it's going to be an EV or whatever.
• 1:18:54
  Cool to look at for the moment.
• 1:18:55
  You know, you need to have the Matchbox car version in my case.
• 1:18:58
  That's in my collection.
• 1:18:59
  That's for sure.
• 1:19:00
  But kind of switching gears to another car that triggered an emotion for me
• 1:19:04
  on multiple levels, the Pieck or the however, you don't want to pronounce it.
• 1:19:08
  Some people say peach, et cetera, but Pieck as in Ferdinand Pieck, the cousin
• 1:19:13
  nephew, the Porsche Pieck family, there is now a Swiss manufacturer using the
• 1:19:18
  Pieck name to come out with a classic sports car look for the electric age.
• 1:19:24
  So this is not.
• 1:19:26
  An EV restomod.
• 1:19:27
  This is a ground up designed in their, you know, laboratory car.
• 1:19:31
  They're boasting 603 horsepower and it's supposed to be a GT cruiser, right?
• 1:19:35
  A boulevard cruiser grand touring car.
• 1:19:37
  The Swiss mark Piek was founded in 2017.
• 1:19:40
  I think that coincides right along with when Ferdinand Piek.
• 1:19:45
  Passed away, but I was also kind of thinking, you know, what other
• 1:19:48
  Swiss brands have there been out there outside of is Dara, right?
• 1:19:51
  The commendatory and all the prototypes that they built and stuff like that.
• 1:19:54
  You don't see a lot of cars coming out of, out of Switzerland or the Swiss
• 1:19:57
  Alps because all the restrictions they have, obviously it's going to be an EV.
• 1:20:00
  It's going to be.
• 1:20:02
  that's important.
• 1:20:03
  I thought it was low weight.
• 1:20:05
  39 68 is the current weight on the car, which compared to a lot of other EVs
• 1:20:10
  you're hearing Teslas and some of these Audis weighing five and 6, 000 pounds
• 1:20:13
  with their battery packs and whatnot.
• 1:20:15
  Tanya knows more about the kilowatt hours.
• 1:20:18
  They're claiming a 75 kilowatt hour battery.
• 1:20:21
  That's going to allow up to 310 miles of Range.
• 1:20:24
  So I thought that was pretty good.
• 1:20:26
  Zero to 60 numbers of three seconds and zero to one 20 in nine seconds.
• 1:20:31
  Before I give you my hot take on this car, I want to get your guys feedback
• 1:20:35
  on what you think it looks like.
• 1:20:36
  The profile looks like a Ferrari that I can't remember the numbers of.
• 1:20:41
  I think the side profile nailed it.
• 1:20:43
  I think it's gorgeous to me.
• 1:20:45
  It's kind of Aston Martin ish, Ferrari, California ish, but better.
• 1:20:49
  And then in the article, as I start to go down, I start to see other angles.
• 1:20:52
  The front end reminds me of the TVR was the one of the late nineties T vs.
• 1:20:57
  Tuscan.
• 1:20:58
  I think the back's okay, but then when you see the Threequarter front
• 1:21:01
  shot, I'm like, Nope, I'm out.
• 1:21:02
  It's like a . Nope, I'm out.
• 1:21:05
  Love it.
• 1:21:05
  Vanilla Aston Martin looking kind of car, but side profile is.
• 1:21:10
  Beautiful light that that's wall art, like, you know,
• 1:21:12
  poster, the rest, not so much.
• 1:21:14
  So I agree with the front end, very Aston Lotus look like the old Elans with
• 1:21:19
  that big kind of gaping, you know, hole.
• 1:21:21
  And then some angles, if you close one, I kind of was like
• 1:21:24
  Miata from the front as well.
• 1:21:25
  The back has that look like a 400 Z it's got a similar tail to it, which I
• 1:21:30
  actually like that coming together of the, of the wide hips and the integrated
• 1:21:34
  ducktail and the lift back and all that.
• 1:21:36
  The side profile, I agree dead on looks really good, but you know,
• 1:21:40
  which car reminds me of the most and Tanya is going to go, Oh yeah,
• 1:21:43
  that one, the Alfa Romeo eight C
• 1:21:46
  I can see that.
• 1:21:48
  Window shape, maybe.
• 1:21:49
  Yep.
• 1:21:49
  Yeah.
• 1:21:49
  It has a very similar style look.
• 1:21:52
  Even when you look at the headlights and stuff, you're like,
• 1:21:54
  really looks like the Alfa Romeo.
• 1:21:55
  And I'm okay with that.
• 1:21:57
  I think this car would look better in a different color other than
• 1:22:00
  this tungsten that it comes in.
• 1:22:02
  Maybe with some accents and things.
• 1:22:04
  I think it would look kind of cool in something else.
• 1:22:06
  I'd like to see some other pictures of it, but I would drive one.
• 1:22:09
  I think this is really neat.
• 1:22:10
  I don't see any interior shots.
• 1:22:12
  Something about the back is very familiar and I can't quite place it.
• 1:22:15
  Is it another TBR?
• 1:22:16
  Like the Z
• 1:22:17
  car?
• 1:22:17
  It looks like an old Z car.
• 1:22:18
  Yeah.
• 1:22:19
  You know, and you gotta give them props though.
• 1:22:20
  I mean that, you know, a lot of concept cars come out or, you know, these,
• 1:22:23
  these boutique manufacturers and they're like, man, you can't actually,
• 1:22:26
  this looks like something that People right away and sell really well.
• 1:22:30
  So
• 1:22:30
  they're saying we're gonna have to wait until 2024 though.
• 1:22:33
  So we're a little ways off before we get to see final production, get to see
• 1:22:37
  the car, you know, behind, you know, with Chris Harris behind the wheel on
• 1:22:41
  on top gear or something like that.
• 1:22:42
  But I'm really curious to see what happens.
• 1:22:45
  I don't know that they listed a price tag on this yet, but I can
• 1:22:48
  only imagine that this car is gonna cost a hundred grand, if not more.
• 1:22:52
  I mean, there's nailed it,
• 1:22:52
  99,000.
• 1:22:53
  Oh, no, sorry.
• 1:22:54
  That's the competitor.
• 1:22:55
  Yeah.
• 1:22:55
  They're going to compete against the Audi e tron GT, which we
• 1:22:58
  mentioned earlier with the Stig.
• 1:23:00
  So kind of cool.
• 1:23:00
  Something different, you know, very definitely pretty to look at.
• 1:23:03
  I would also add that to my Hot Wheels collection if there was one available.
• 1:23:08
  Me too.
• 1:23:09
  So the last one, is it something that's going to be mainstream or coming
• 1:23:13
  to the market or something you can purchase anytime soon, but I think
• 1:23:16
  it's pretty impressive feat by these engineering students, essentially.
• 1:23:20
  Apologize for mispronunciation, but at the Eindhoven University of Technology,
• 1:23:25
  22 students designed and built a 100 percent solar powered camper van.
• 1:23:32
  It took them nine months from design to build, which is pretty impressive
• 1:23:36
  considering They're students and they don't have access, you know, necessarily
• 1:23:40
  to Ford manufacturing or equivalent.
• 1:23:43
  And they took it on a, what was I think technically supposed to be
• 1:23:46
  a 3000 kilometer journey from the Netherlands to Spain, but the vehicle
• 1:23:51
  actually only did 2000 of the kilometer.
• 1:23:55
  So just over 1200 miles, I believe they, they had to tow it the first a
• 1:23:59
  thousand miles of the journey due to some sort of drive train issue, which.
• 1:24:03
  Remarkably, they were able to solve and fix and reprint a part
• 1:24:08
  or whatever that they needed to get it, you know, up and running.
• 1:24:11
  So I think it's a, it's a good testament to these students and the
• 1:24:14
  capability of their solar powered car.
• 1:24:16
  We can easily get into solar power.
• 1:24:20
  How stupid when it rains, you don't have sun.
• 1:24:23
  Two, three days for this thing to, you know, fully charge you and say, who,
• 1:24:27
  man, that's so stupid, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:24:28
  Take it for the engineering feats and the capability of these 22 individuals.
• 1:24:32
  I think it's pretty impressive and good on them.
• 1:24:35
  So I have two questions.
• 1:24:37
  One of them I'm going to ask for Donovan, which is what does it smell like?
• 1:24:43
  That's a new segment now.
• 1:24:45
  What does it smell like?
• 1:24:46
  The sun.
• 1:24:48
  Yeah, burning electric and the other one is I applaud them for their ability
• 1:24:53
  to build this thing because it's pretty epic with like the Westfalia
• 1:24:56
  roof and these wings that like come out, I guess, which are solar panels
• 1:24:59
  and all this crazy stuff that it has.
• 1:25:01
  But why is it shaped like this?
• 1:25:03
  Like a giant Johnny Cab slash suppository.
• 1:25:07
  I mean, what is going on with this thing?
• 1:25:09
  I mean, they must've had some sort of design reason.
• 1:25:12
  Maybe, you know, they're, if they're students, maybe they did some aerodynamic
• 1:25:15
  calculations that told them that that's what they should be doing.
• 1:25:18
  I don't know.
• 1:25:19
  Or maybe they wanted something funky and futuristic looking.
• 1:25:21
  How heavy are those doors?
• 1:25:23
  Those things are huge.
• 1:25:25
  So they say the whole thing weighs 3, 700 pounds.
• 1:25:29
  No
• 1:25:29
  way.
• 1:25:30
  The specs listed put the weight at 1, 700 kilograms or 3, 748 pounds.
• 1:25:36
  Wow.
• 1:25:36
  That, I mean, like any other RV that's made out of tinfoil
• 1:25:41
  and Well, it's fairing strips.
• 1:25:43
  It's supposedly an aluminum chassis with glass fiber and aluminum
• 1:25:47
  foam core on the aeroshell.
• 1:25:49
  So I'm going to
• 1:25:50
  give them, I'm going to give them this.
• 1:25:51
  If their solar technology is what we're really focused on here,
• 1:25:55
  which it is, it's not the vehicle.
• 1:25:57
  No, if that, if that solar roof works and if those, whatever those
• 1:26:01
  butterfly wing things are, when it's fully extended work, you have my
• 1:26:05
  attention because, you know, this is something we've been talking about,
• 1:26:07
  you know, Tesla and it was a Fisker.
• 1:26:09
  promise, you know, these solar roofs and they really never went anywhere.
• 1:26:13
  Wouldn't it be really cool if you could charge the batteries while you're driving
• 1:26:16
  around and use the battery power at night or when it rains, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:26:20
  Like you were saying, if this works, that's the point of this at
• 1:26:24
  the end of the day, not the fact that it looks like a Johnny cab.
• 1:26:26
  Well, and I believe that there's a time and a place for
• 1:26:29
  everything, so to speak, right?
• 1:26:30
  Diversification.
• 1:26:31
  of the Energy Portfolio is not a bad thing.
• 1:26:35
  There can be a good use for this.
• 1:26:38
  Maybe it's not on the roof of your Tesla or Taycan or whatever as
• 1:26:42
  you're going to the grocery store.
• 1:26:44
  But let's go back to those city buses that are doing nothing but sitting
• 1:26:48
  around or crawling through traffic.
• 1:26:51
  What if they had some sort of use?
• 1:26:52
  Solar panel wings that came out and they're able to capture some of that
• 1:26:56
  sunlight and, you know, transfer it to battery recharge or things like that.
• 1:27:00
  Maybe there are applications for it and we can diversify the energy
• 1:27:04
  portfolio that we're not solely bound to one thing or the other,
• 1:27:09
  you know, they probably would have gotten that first thousand iPhones on the trip.
• 1:27:17
  I want to know how they got 22 people inside that Johnny cab.
• 1:27:20
  No, so in fairness, the issue was allegedly had nothing to do with the
• 1:27:23
  solar panels, but was a mechanical issue again with the drive train.
• 1:27:27
  And there's only room for two people.
• 1:27:30
  Wait, that thing's
• 1:27:30
  the size
• 1:27:31
  of a
• 1:27:31
  school bus.
• 1:27:32
  Well, it's designed for two people.
• 1:27:33
  Or two people because they have like fricking like pull out
• 1:27:36
  double sofa bed thing in there and all, and all this other stuff.
• 1:27:39
  It's a camber man, right?
• 1:27:40
  It's, it's not designed like a big RV to bring, you know, you and
• 1:27:44
  your family of six and the dog.
• 1:27:46
  It's maybe two, maybe three people.
• 1:27:48
  I don't know.
• 1:27:49
  But so the real question is, which of the two of the 22
• 1:27:52
  got to take it on the journey
• 1:27:54
  con?
• 1:27:54
  I know what it smells like.
• 1:27:57
  . It smells like Ikea.
• 1:28:01
  It smells like Swedish meatballs.
• 1:28:03
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:28:04
  No, you're high.
• 1:28:04
  Ikea has all that like super lightweight furniture that you got to assemble,
• 1:28:07
  but this is the Netherlands, not Sweden.
• 1:28:09
  So it
• 1:28:09
  doesn't, it doesn't matter.
• 1:28:10
  I mean, what do you think they put in that thing?
• 1:28:12
  It's all like three pound tables from like Ikea and stuff.
• 1:28:14
  So I guess we got to move on since we're already talking, you know, we're talking
• 1:28:17
  about these new EVs because we would be,
• 1:28:21
  we would be remiss not to bring up Tesla.
• 1:28:23
  Oh Lord.
• 1:28:24
  I mean, nothing bad this month.
• 1:28:26
  We already knew that Elon moved to Austin, um, personally, a
• 1:28:31
  year or so ago, I guess now.
• 1:28:32
  And he lives in one of these solar Eindhoven things.
• 1:28:37
  No, there's too many round edges on, on the, uh, The glass won't break if you
• 1:28:43
  throw something at it.
• 1:28:44
  Yeah.
• 1:28:44
  There's not, they didn't put the laser beams on the windshield.
• 1:28:47
  So to wipe the water away.
• 1:28:49
  Yeah.
• 1:28:49
  So he personally moved to Texas to be closer to SpaceX and all this other stuff.
• 1:28:55
  I'm sure he had issue, you know, other issues being angry at California.
• 1:28:59
  It's been recently announced that he is going to move the headquarters.
• 1:29:03
  Out of Palo Alto to Austin.
• 1:29:05
  Nice.
• 1:29:06
  It was every other Californian
• 1:29:08
  along with every other big California company.
• 1:29:11
  And part of it is citing the fact that California is just ridiculous in
• 1:29:16
  different ways in terms of just congestion and cost of living, you know, aside
• 1:29:21
  from the very stringent regulations.
• 1:29:24
  that they have in place and whatnot.
• 1:29:25
  So, uh, it'll be interesting to see how happy those California
• 1:29:28
  workers will be to move to Texas.
• 1:29:30
  They don't plan on shutting down the facilities they have in California.
• 1:29:33
  If anything, they're, you know, alleging to ramp up production in the,
• 1:29:37
  in the manufacturing plants there.
• 1:29:39
  So what I am hopeful here.
• 1:29:41
  On this one is Tesla moves to Austin.
• 1:29:44
  Steve Wynn owns DeLorean, which is also in Humboldt, Texas, not too far.
• 1:29:50
  They get together and we get an EV DeLorean.
• 1:29:52
  This is what I'm waiting for people.
• 1:29:54
  The way it should have always been.
• 1:29:55
  A hundred thousand percent.
• 1:29:57
  But in other Tesla news,
• 1:29:58
  there's another drag race.
• 1:30:00
  And it's this 14 minute video that you got to fast forward to the nine minute mark.
• 1:30:05
  And then again, to like the, I don't know which minute mark to see
• 1:30:08
  anything remotely interesting, but it's between a thousand horsepower
• 1:30:12
  McLaren, whatever the hell it is.
• 1:30:13
  And a Tesla plaid S version blue, they did three runs.
• 1:30:18
  They did a standstill drag race run, which the Tesla obliterated
• 1:30:23
  the McLaren, which off to no one's
• 1:30:25
  surprise.
• 1:30:26
  Right.
• 1:30:26
  I mean,
• 1:30:26
  I, and it was to no one's surprise that was.
• 1:30:29
  Present for this drag racing.
• 1:30:31
  I mean, off the line, electrics have the advantage.
• 1:30:34
  We already know this.
• 1:30:35
  Then they did a rolling start drag due to the fact that of course, McLaren's
• 1:30:41
  going to suck off a dead stop line and the Tesla still really obliterated it.
• 1:30:46
  And then their third one was a rolling start.
• 1:30:50
  with advantage to the McLaren.
• 1:30:52
  So I think it started with however many feet ahead of the Tesla and
• 1:30:56
  the Tesla still caught up basically.
• 1:30:58
  And I think it was ended up being like a nose to nose kind of finish.
• 1:31:02
  Hey, I got to add
• 1:31:03
  to the funny part of the end of this.
• 1:31:05
  Not only did the Tesla outrun the McLaren, it also apparently has better brakes.
• 1:31:10
  Yes, because the guy in the McLaren must've had a code Brown moment because
• 1:31:14
  essentially he ran out of racing.
• 1:31:16
  He ran out of runway or whatever they were drag racing on.
• 1:31:19
  He ran out of drag race.
• 1:31:20
  And apparently literally managed to stop the McLaren an inch from hitting
• 1:31:26
  like a fence or a wall or something.
• 1:31:28
  The barrier at the end of the track strip, you did some late breaking.
• 1:31:34
  I have to say, I mean, you know, we talked about Ken Block earlier.
• 1:31:37
  Obviously he's sold off Hoonigan.
• 1:31:39
  This is another Hoonigan video.
• 1:31:40
  He's kind of distanced himself from that, even though he's.
• 1:31:42
  Kind of still affiliated or whatever.
• 1:31:44
  It's still Hoonigan stuff.
• 1:31:45
  It's whatever you're right.
• 1:31:46
  The first like seven minutes is all about like cleaning products and, Oh, isn't
• 1:31:50
  my car cool and all this kind of thing.
• 1:31:51
  It's it's whatever I looked at the clickbait, you know, McLaren
• 1:31:54
  versus plaid, and this is the same as the Corvette one they did, which
• 1:31:58
  the Corvette also got obliterated.
• 1:32:00
  It was some like 2000 horsepower, you know, nitrous injected quad
• 1:32:04
  turbo Corvette or whatever.
• 1:32:05
  And it was like, all right, yep.
• 1:32:06
  The Tesla wins every time.
• 1:32:08
  And it went great.
• 1:32:09
  Hey, look yet.
• 1:32:09
  Another.
• 1:32:10
  drag race between a Tesla and something else that's going to get crushed.
• 1:32:13
  But you're right.
• 1:32:14
  That ending made the whole video worth it.
• 1:32:17
  So I just tell you guys to skip like the first 13 minutes and just watch
• 1:32:20
  that last poll because it's the best.
• 1:32:22
  After I lost interest after about five seconds.
• 1:32:24
  Cause like you said, there's a bajillion of these.
• 1:32:26
  I had an idea that's not drag racing anymore, right?
• 1:32:29
  Nobody cares.
• 1:32:30
  I want to see a triumph TR seven and a Fiat X one nine drag race.
• 1:32:35
  Yes.
• 1:32:36
  Old school.
• 1:32:36
  Think that video was long.
• 1:32:38
  Wait till they figure out how to keep those running long enough to get to
• 1:32:40
  the end of the that's the drag race.
• 1:32:43
  I want to see what do they smell like, like fire and oil and
• 1:32:50
  they're running rich.
• 1:32:51
  That's for sure.
• 1:32:51
  There's other Tesla news this month, which is kind of funny, but also kind of scary.
• 1:32:56
  Uh, you know, honestly, this is more I feel like sensational
• 1:33:00
  click baity than anything else.
• 1:33:02
  The way the headline reads Tesla tempted drivers with insane mode and
• 1:33:06
  now is tracking them to judge safety.
• 1:33:08
  Experts say it's ludicrous.
• 1:33:10
  Honestly, that title has nothing to do with the point
• 1:33:13
  that's trying to be made here.
• 1:33:14
  And so what's happening is Tesla's doing another beta test of their, you know,
• 1:33:19
  full autonomous driving bullshit that.
• 1:33:22
  Again, even Elon is admitting doesn't really work yet.
• 1:33:26
  Okay.
• 1:33:27
  It's not full self driving.
• 1:33:28
  They're doing like another beta rollout and they want to do actual
• 1:33:33
  testing with Tesla owners, as opposed to just dummy vehicles going around.
• 1:33:38
  And so he's created this vetting process where he's created this checklist,
• 1:33:42
  if you will, of grading scale for judging who will be allowed to beta.
• 1:33:48
  Test this new software update.
• 1:33:50
  So essentially he is tracking how people are driving.
• 1:33:53
  It's a very stringent grading scale to the extreme of any kind of like
• 1:33:57
  hard breaking, you get docked points.
• 1:34:00
  And so you have to get like a perfect hundred hundred score
• 1:34:03
  or however your scale is.
• 1:34:04
  To be allowed to beta test the new full self driving software.
• 1:34:08
  And he's doing this because he only wants safe, trustworthy
• 1:34:11
  people should be trying this out to be the Guinea pig, if you will.
• 1:34:14
  So it's not so much that he's trying to spy on everybody and,
• 1:34:18
  and, and track their every moves and control their driving habits.
• 1:34:21
  Not to say that things don't morph into other things, but it's supposed
• 1:34:24
  to be this vetting process for people to pilot the new beta software.
• 1:34:29
  And honestly, this isn't new.
• 1:34:32
  If people are going to get all in there, Oh my god, everybody's spying on me.
• 1:34:35
  Meh, meh, meh.
• 1:34:36
  Guess what?
• 1:34:37
  Who was it?
• 1:34:38
  Progressive did this already?
• 1:34:39
  Like, Five, 10 years ago where they gave you that little sensor to plug in
• 1:34:43
  OBD port and they were tracking how you drive and you were supposed to save on
• 1:34:47
  your car insurance and all this bullshit.
• 1:34:49
  So guess what people it's already been out there, been there, done that.
• 1:34:52
  Let's not go conspiracy theory.
• 1:34:54
  Ancient automotive enthusiasts contend that it is Skynet at the end
• 1:34:58
  of the day, but Donovan, go ahead.
• 1:34:59
  How many ways can we rip this part of the article apart, right?
• 1:35:02
  It's just.
• 1:35:03
  Um, first of all, experts say it's ludicrous.
• 1:35:06
  That was, that's obviously a Tesla mode, right?
• 1:35:08
  So either somebody scanned an article and they're like, Oh, there's a
• 1:35:10
  little good, let's give somebody the fastest mode in the car.
• 1:35:13
  And if they don't drive it safely, then we're going to do what?
• 1:35:16
  I don't think it even has anything to do with the mode in the car.
• 1:35:19
  It's just nowhere.
• 1:35:20
  Have I seen where it says the beta is being tested in the cars with
• 1:35:24
  the ludicrous mode and whatnot.
• 1:35:26
  It's just a thousand Tesla owners.
• 1:35:28
  are going to get to pilot the new software and he's vetting them
• 1:35:32
  by tracking how they're driving.
• 1:35:34
  So, so two things on that.
• 1:35:35
  First of all, all those dudes from Hoonigan that we just
• 1:35:37
  talked about, they're out.
• 1:35:38
  They're off the list.
• 1:35:40
  Second of all, I'm wondering, can you game the system by using the current, we're
• 1:35:45
  going to put air quotes around autonomous driving, you know, level, whatever.
• 1:35:49
  To get the perfect score.
• 1:35:50
  So you're actually using the current system to qualify
• 1:35:53
  yourself for the new system?
• 1:35:54
  Probably not.
• 1:35:55
  Cause I assume he's able to track that.
• 1:35:57
  We definitely need Edson for these particular articles, but, you know,
• 1:36:00
  I don't know if you guys have ever noticed, like every Tesla article
• 1:36:03
  you read is Something they're doing wrong or something that's great.
• 1:36:07
  And then you, you get in the actual cars and realize they're doing it all right.
• 1:36:10
  And this article looks just like another attempt to twist it.
• 1:36:13
  Tonya, like you were saying around the, make it seem
• 1:36:15
  like, Oh, they're at it again.
• 1:36:17
  They're doing something dumb there.
• 1:36:19
  You know, you don't want to buy a Tesla.
• 1:36:20
  I don't understand why everybody has the hate for the Teslas, but.
• 1:36:24
  I don't know.
• 1:36:24
  I think Edson Paul's, we keep calling him Edson on GarageRat, you know,
• 1:36:28
  show me things like his, in his model three, where, you know, there
• 1:36:31
  was a feature, somebody asked for, Hey, can we get these cameras now?
• 1:36:36
  And I'm going to butcher it for the Tesla owners out there,
• 1:36:37
  but there's like the rear view.
• 1:36:39
  And then there's like the corner ones that weren't normally on and
• 1:36:42
  somebody tweeted it or something.
• 1:36:44
  And Musk was like, Oh, that's a great idea.
• 1:36:45
  Sent the software upgrade and boom.
• 1:36:47
  Now they're there.
• 1:36:47
  He also thought
• 1:36:48
  that open butthole was a good idea.
• 1:36:51
  I mean, come on now.
• 1:36:52
  Open butthole.
• 1:36:53
  Yeah.
• 1:36:53
  You remember that
• 1:36:54
  for the gas tank?
• 1:36:55
  Yeah.
• 1:36:55
  You open the gas tank voice command.
• 1:36:57
  You say open butthole and then it's open my butthole, like open
• 1:37:00
  the trunk or something ridiculous.
• 1:37:02
  He thinks everything's a good idea,
• 1:37:04
  but still, you know, the fact that we're quick to market with
• 1:37:06
  something, somebody made a suggestion.
• 1:37:07
  That's a great idea.
• 1:37:08
  Let's do it.
• 1:37:09
  That to me makes Tesla the winner in the automotive market.
• 1:37:12
  So, but it's also
• 1:37:13
  kind of scary too, that your car is controlled by over
• 1:37:16
  the air software update.
• 1:37:18
  So they can render you useless.
• 1:37:19
  I also heard about something that came across my desk earlier about.
• 1:37:22
  That Tesla is also talking about the cars will put in their own
• 1:37:26
  orders for maintenance parts.
• 1:37:28
  Can you imagine if the car ordered its own set of tires suddenly and then you got
• 1:37:31
  docked, you know, 1200 bucks because it's the only tire that's available for Tesla.
• 1:37:35
  No, thank you.
• 1:37:36
  There's certain parts of that I want to be disconnected from.
• 1:37:38
  There's all kinds of, and you should get Paul in here and do maybe just a spin.
• 1:37:41
  Specific Tesla interview, but there's all kinds of things about
• 1:37:45
  eventually like he can't buy his car.
• 1:37:47
  My understanding is he can only lease it because they plan to have this
• 1:37:49
  back as a fleet later automated.
• 1:37:51
  That's
• 1:37:52
  the Ferrari pyramid scheme.
• 1:37:54
  Well, it's a, it's a, they can basically have them as automated Ubers down
• 1:37:57
  the road and they'll be able to go, you can send it, pick up your dry,
• 1:38:00
  clean, all kinds of crazy stuff.
• 1:38:01
  So I don't know.
• 1:38:02
  It's, I think it's pretty interesting, but I'll take
• 1:38:04
  that 84 GTI you were talking about.
• 1:38:07
  Me too.
• 1:38:08
  That's all I need.
• 1:38:09
  Me too.
• 1:38:09
  We'll split.
• 1:38:11
  And with a big sigh, we move on to our next segment,
• 1:38:14
  lowered expectations.
• 1:38:18
  It's the last time you've been on things have evolved.
• 1:38:20
  You've got my attention now.
• 1:38:21
  So, you know, I've gone to a few Porsche parades over the years and, you
• 1:38:26
  know, we've all done the car show and the swap meets and things like that.
• 1:38:29
  And there's always, you know, there's always that one guy
• 1:38:32
  kind of back in the corner.
• 1:38:33
  He's selling like, you know, his hand painted art of Lido.
• 1:38:36
  Steve McQueen and the nine 17, or, you know, even Dr.
• 1:38:40
  McDreamy and his nine 11s and all those kinds of stuff.
• 1:38:42
  But this latest one that I came across this article in auto week, where
• 1:38:46
  there's an artist that's using these natural mosaics to paint pictures.
• 1:38:51
  Of legendary race cars.
• 1:38:53
  And I thought this one of the nine 17 made of butterflies
• 1:38:56
  is actually quite beautiful.
• 1:38:58
  It's, it's really cool looking.
• 1:38:59
  And it's one of those things that you can just kind of continue to stare at
• 1:39:02
  and kind of move your head and just see different things and you kind of
• 1:39:05
  zoom in and out of the perspective.
• 1:39:07
  And I really do appreciate stuff like this.
• 1:39:08
  And I know it's, it's kind of car adjacent and probably well out of the all posters.
• 1:39:13
  com price range, you know, to get a full print of that or whatever.
• 1:39:16
  But I just thought it was kind of neat.
• 1:39:18
  It's cool.
• 1:39:18
  I feel bad for the butterflies that died.
• 1:39:20
  I hope you didn't kill them to make.
• 1:39:21
  Yeah.
• 1:39:22
  And that's why it qualified for lower expectations.
• 1:39:25
  Cause that's where my brain went to.
• 1:39:26
  How do you stage that?
• 1:39:27
  Cause it's not painted.
• 1:39:28
  It's actually made, you know, these different, uh, renderings that he
• 1:39:31
  does are done with, you know, natural materials and things like that.
• 1:39:34
  So it's cool, but on the same token, I'm like, wow, that's,
• 1:39:36
  that's a lot of effort there.
• 1:39:37
  It's sad at the same time.
• 1:39:39
  Exactly.
• 1:39:39
  Right.
• 1:39:40
  How many butterflies were killed in the making of this?
• 1:39:43
  I was like, it's got to be several hundred, right?
• 1:39:46
  Can you imagine these guys out there?
• 1:39:47
  I mean, people collect butterflies.
• 1:39:49
  I mean, it's a thing, but I mean, whatever.
• 1:39:51
  It's very creative.
• 1:39:52
  So right along with that, but on an entirely different side of things,
• 1:39:57
  Begging the question, what could go wrong?
• 1:39:59
  Ford removes the credit score qualification requirement
• 1:40:03
  for 84 month loans.
• 1:40:05
  First of all, I didn't even know seven year loans were
• 1:40:07
  like a thing, but good God.
• 1:40:09
  I mean, what could possibly go wrong?
• 1:40:11
  Everybody gets an F 150.
• 1:40:12
  It's like an episode of Oprah and you get an F 150 and you
• 1:40:15
  get an F 150 and you get an F
• 1:40:17
  150.
• 1:40:18
  It's okay.
• 1:40:18
  I don't want an F 150.
• 1:40:19
  Thanks.
• 1:40:20
  I
• 1:40:20
  mean, 0 percent APR on a seven year loan on a 70, 000 truck.
• 1:40:26
  I mean, it's not going to suck me in the door, but for somebody that's looking
• 1:40:30
  to buy a truck right now, if you can get one, despite the semiconductor
• 1:40:34
  shortage, that's really not a bad deal.
• 1:40:36
  I don't know how I feel about 84 months of interest.
• 1:40:39
  It's going to be one of those.
• 1:40:40
  You're going to go down there and they're going to go, Oh, that was
• 1:40:43
  this one particular stock model.
• 1:40:45
  And we don't have that one anymore.
• 1:40:46
  It's the Maverick.
• 1:40:47
  You came in for the F 150, but you're getting the Maverick.
• 1:40:50
  How long before these end up at title loan?
• 1:40:51
  Right?
• 1:40:52
  That's crazy.
• 1:40:52
  Yeah, you can do, I know you can do longer finance on, you know, exotics and things.
• 1:40:57
  So not crazy, but 0 percent APR.
• 1:41:00
  That's amazing.
• 1:41:01
  But you know, and the other thing that's crazy is, you know, all
• 1:41:04
  of these, particularly right now are holding their value.
• 1:41:06
  There's a good chance you buy that, drive it for two years and sell it back
• 1:41:09
  to Ford for what you have in it or more.
• 1:41:11
  That's true.
• 1:41:12
  And the other thing I will warn people about is when you're sitting at the
• 1:41:15
  table, there's always a lot of pressure to buy a new car, especially if you're
• 1:41:18
  excited about it and the sales rep wants to get their commission and all that
• 1:41:21
  kind of stuff, even though they tell you they're not paid on commission.
• 1:41:24
  One of the things my wife did many years ago, and I still will never forget this.
• 1:41:28
  We were buying a VW.
• 1:41:29
  And it was one of their promotion, you know, weekends, which happened
• 1:41:32
  to be there at the right time.
• 1:41:33
  There's always that, you know, zero down, zero APR, get the car for free, you know,
• 1:41:38
  you know, drive, arrive and drive, you know, the whole campaign that they had.
• 1:41:41
  So we're there and she's sitting down and she's kind of furiously scribbling
• 1:41:44
  on a piece of paper in this, in the, right in front of the financier's desk.
• 1:41:48
  And she's like, what are you doing?
• 1:41:49
  She's like, we need to change the terms of this loan.
• 1:41:51
  And she's like, what do you mean?
• 1:41:52
  She's like your 0 percent APR loan is actually more expensive than if I take
• 1:41:57
  the shorter, more aggressive loan with a higher yield, I will end up paying less
• 1:42:02
  over the period than I will with the zero.
• 1:42:05
  And she was like, the lady that was there was like, that's.
• 1:42:08
  The first time somebody's actually sat down and done the math and I'm
• 1:42:11
  like, yeah, that's my wife, right?
• 1:42:14
  So I still give her mad props for that.
• 1:42:15
  And I'd like to share that story as a reminder to people to just take a minute
• 1:42:19
  when you're sitting there and take the pressure off and breathe and think about
• 1:42:22
  what you're signing on the dotted line on.
• 1:42:25
  So do the rough calculations yourself.
• 1:42:27
  If you do the math, see where you end up.
• 1:42:28
  Cause some of these things are not to your advantage over the long run.
• 1:42:31
  I have many stories along there.
• 1:42:33
  I'll give you two quick ones.
• 1:42:35
  First of all, I've discovered money factor in these.
• 1:42:37
  If you guys don't know what that is, you need to, that's how they calculate your
• 1:42:40
  finance rate and they hide that from you.
• 1:42:42
  So do your research there.
• 1:42:43
  But one of my ex girlfriends, we went in and she was buying a car and I
• 1:42:48
  didn't think about it at the time, but they said, yeah, yeah, go ahead.
• 1:42:50
  You know, take it.
• 1:42:51
  We're going to have to have you come back in a couple of days, finish up.
• 1:42:53
  Paperwork.
• 1:42:53
  So she took it and when they came back, they had dropped her credit score and,
• 1:42:57
  Oh, we made this mistake and did all this.
• 1:42:59
  And, you know, we told him, give back the keys and she was in love with the car.
• 1:43:02
  I'd never seen that scam before, but you know, another, this apparently is
• 1:43:05
  my Paul Edson podcast night, but we've been, I think I've talked to Eric.
• 1:43:09
  We've been looking for operators.
• 1:43:11
  So we went to Jeep and trying to buy some Jeeps.
• 1:43:14
  So Jeep currently, and they might still have it on their website, has
• 1:43:16
  this 275 a month deal for their hybrid 4XE, which of course doesn't exist.
• 1:43:21
  I went into three different dealers, called all of the Metro
• 1:43:24
  ones, nobody has the stock.
• 1:43:26
  So we found a dealer that had two, and we had gone into a previous dealer and said,
• 1:43:30
  we'll take two, but they didn't have any.
• 1:43:32
  So we went to this dealer and said, if we can do the numbers
• 1:43:34
  right, we'll take both of them.
• 1:43:35
  At the end of the story, first of all, the first numbers they came back with on a
• 1:43:39
  275, A month loan was 890 a month, right?
• 1:43:44
  So we looked at the paperwork, said, no, that's quite right.
• 1:43:46
  Paul's MBA, super smart guy before it was all said and done.
• 1:43:49
  I kid you not.
• 1:43:50
  He was teaching the finance manager how to quick calculate costs and
• 1:43:54
  figure out factors and stuff on the online in the dealership.
• 1:43:57
  So I say that for two reasons.
• 1:43:58
  One is Paul's super smart, but to your point, the people that.
• 1:44:01
  That are pulling the numbers don't always know, right?
• 1:44:03
  Sometimes they're just given a calculator or a formula or whatever, or
• 1:44:07
  they're, they're trying to stick you.
• 1:44:08
  So yeah, definitely do those numbers.
• 1:44:10
  And, uh, I'll give props to Honda, uh, another future sponsor of your podcast.
• 1:44:14
  Hopefully for leases, they're the only, as far as I know, they're
• 1:44:18
  the only manufacturer that does not allow their dealers to change
• 1:44:21
  the money factor on a lease.
• 1:44:22
  So that's how they, they, the dealers make more money.
• 1:44:25
  They have to do what corporate gives them, which gets us back to this forward.
• 1:44:30
  Uh, 0 percent APR.
• 1:44:31
  How are the dealers going to make any money off of this?
• 1:44:34
  Right.
• 1:44:34
  And again, shopping recently, I went into a Nissan dealer and they
• 1:44:37
  had dent proofing as part of their add ons, dent proofing, right?
• 1:44:42
  Good luck.
• 1:44:42
  Yeah.
• 1:44:43
  They've got the undercoating.
• 1:44:44
  All right.
• 1:44:44
  So I would have to believe that any kind of zero APR F 150 probably has
• 1:44:48
  dent proofing and muffler bearings.
• 1:44:51
  Does it come with muffler bearings and blinker fluid?
• 1:44:53
  Yep.
• 1:44:54
  Blink of fluid.
• 1:44:54
  So,
• 1:44:55
  oh Lord, they see, this is why it's on lowered expectations.
• 1:44:59
  Speaking of lowered expectations, how about the United nude low res
• 1:45:04
  you have me at nude,
• 1:45:05
  another art piece, you know, I'm a big fan of Tron.
• 1:45:10
  I mean, if folks know me, they know this to be true.
• 1:45:12
  I like all the things about that movie, both the original and the new one, you
• 1:45:16
  know, those super angular futuristic cars.
• 1:45:18
  But when I saw this, I was like, W.
• 1:45:21
  T F and apparently this is a real car.
• 1:45:25
  And the part that really got me about this, like I could have cared a less
• 1:45:29
  like, Oh, this is some, you know, Wraith Knight Rider BS for a movie
• 1:45:33
  that somebody made publicity sign.
• 1:45:34
  It was made for a United nude, which apparently they make like sports
• 1:45:37
  apparel and all this kind of stuff, you know, you know, yoga pants and
• 1:45:40
  all that kind of, yeah, whatever.
• 1:45:42
  But their definition for this car is an abstract low resolution version.
• 1:45:50
  Of the Lamborghini Countach, and I'm like, what?
• 1:45:55
  I mean, everything is square.
• 1:45:56
  Even the steering wheel is like a hexagon.
• 1:45:59
  I'm like, I don't understand.
• 1:46:00
  At least it was, it's bogus.
• 1:46:02
  I mean, when they lift the lid on this thing, cause it's like a big
• 1:46:04
  old, like, you know, single cockpit Lotus seven underneath or whatever.
• 1:46:08
  It's ridiculous.
• 1:46:09
  And then I'm looking at these numbers and I start laughing and it's like both power
• 1:46:14
  numbers of a five kilowatt electric motor paired with a single speed transmission.
• 1:46:19
  And I'm like, this is like the Bugatti baby too.
• 1:46:22
  What does it do?
• 1:46:23
  Like 30 miles an hour.
• 1:46:24
  And it goes like 10 feet.
• 1:46:25
  It's ridiculous.
• 1:46:26
  Exactly.
• 1:46:26
  It only
• 1:46:27
  goes.
• 1:46:27
  31 miles
• 1:46:28
  an hour.
• 1:46:28
  It's insane, right?
• 1:46:30
  You can't wear pants in it.
• 1:46:31
  Apparently, no, you have to
• 1:46:32
  be united and nude, whatever that means.
• 1:46:34
  It has to be low res.
• 1:46:35
  Everything's blurred when you drive it.
• 1:46:37
  Right.
• 1:46:38
  But the best part is the part that gets me, it goes back to what
• 1:46:40
  I always say about auctions on bring a trailer and other places
• 1:46:44
  like that, that people have lost.
• 1:46:45
  They're ever loving minds.
• 1:46:47
  I mean, this isn't even like a piece of history, right?
• 1:46:49
  This is a publicity stunt car, 111 grand.
• 1:46:53
  I'm like, really?
• 1:46:54
  I wouldn't give you 111 bucks for this thing.
• 1:46:56
  Like it's terrible.
• 1:46:58
  What's crazy is if you look at this, the winner of the auction,
• 1:47:01
  it's a United low new, no kidding.
• 1:47:05
  But what does it
• 1:47:06
  smell like?
• 1:47:06
  Right.
• 1:47:08
  I don't want to know.
• 1:47:09
  I don't, I don't want to know either.
• 1:47:10
  As we continue to lower our expectations, Tanya mentioned
• 1:47:14
  California earlier, what's going on.
• 1:47:16
  This is, I guess, car adjacent fuel or fuel adjacent.
• 1:47:20
  We already know California is very strict emissions laws.
• 1:47:24
  They've got their California air resources board, AKA CARB, regulating a
• 1:47:28
  lot of things around passenger cars and whatnot in the state, but they are going.
• 1:47:31
  further and saying that starting in 2024 there will be a new law passed
• 1:47:37
  banning gas powered lawn equipment.
• 1:47:41
  The world is done.
• 1:47:42
  It's over.
• 1:47:43
  Lawnmowers and leaf blowers will need to be electric because allegedly what
• 1:47:48
  I guess the scientists or whomever have calculated is that one hour lawnmower
• 1:47:54
  use is equivalent to driving 300 miles.
• 1:47:58
  From LA to Vegas and one hour of leaf blower use is apparently equivalent to
• 1:48:03
  driving 1, 100 miles from LA to Denver.
• 1:48:06
  What
• 1:48:06
  economy of scale did they calculate that on?
• 1:48:08
  Because my lawnmower literally uses a gallon in an hour.
• 1:48:13
  So what it also says is that they're saying that they're the best
• 1:48:17
  selling commercial lawnmower for an hour emits as much smog forming
• 1:48:21
  pollution as you would by driving a 2016 Toyota Camry around 300 miles.
• 1:48:27
  It doesn't really matter because everybody's going to be in Austin by
• 1:48:30
  the time this, uh, well, there's no
• 1:48:32
  grass there anyway, so it doesn't matter.
• 1:48:35
  So at any rate, if you're in California, you better start stocking
• 1:48:37
  up on your electric leaf blowers and lawnmowers before you can't find any.
• 1:48:41
  I mean, so with that band, that's going to hurt.
• 1:48:44
  The landscaping industry, agriculture industry, it's
• 1:48:47
  going to hurt the residents.
• 1:48:48
  It's going to, I mean, there's going to be a lot of riding lawnmowers
• 1:48:51
  for sale, which would be awesome.
• 1:48:52
  We're just going to have to go to California to get it.
• 1:48:54
  Whoever's starting that, you know, cars and bids version for lawn equipment.
• 1:48:58
  Let me know.
• 1:48:58
  I want to get in on that early.
• 1:48:59
  No, what we need is somebody who's going to retrofit batteries
• 1:49:03
  onto the gas powered lawnmowers.
• 1:49:05
  I think it's just a solar powered.
• 1:49:07
  leaf blower.
• 1:49:08
  I think that there you go.
• 1:49:09
  Problem solved.
• 1:49:09
  We need those guys and gals in the Netherlands to help us.
• 1:49:13
  So terrible.
• 1:49:14
  But let's live in the mood a little bit and talk about our favorite
• 1:49:19
  section, most anticipated section of the show, the Florida man stories.
• 1:49:22
  Well, our first one is More of a public service announcement and kind
• 1:49:27
  of sad, not kind of sad, it is sad.
• 1:49:29
  So we'll start off low and then end it on a high note.
• 1:49:32
  Our expectations were already low.
• 1:49:34
  So
• 1:49:36
  this is a Florida man story, unfortunately, and a man killed two
• 1:49:43
  people by driving a Tesla through a house.
• 1:49:46
  At 116 miles an hour.
• 1:49:48
  And this has nothing to do with Tesla, but with the stupidity of
• 1:49:52
  some people, apparently this car had just been purchased several
• 1:49:56
  hours before the incident.
• 1:49:58
  It wasn't even the owner driving, but he let his friend drive.
• 1:50:02
  And then there were also two other passengers.
• 1:50:04
  In this Tesla, and they were in a 30 mile an hour zone,
• 1:50:07
  essentially in a neighborhood, and I guess decided 30 was too slow.
• 1:50:12
  And the report says the car was doing 160 miles an hour.
• 1:50:15
  When he blew through a stop sign, ended up over the curb, up an embankment.
• 1:50:20
  So I want to say you kind of shot in the air, went through the roof,
• 1:50:23
  through the house, very sadly, the house owner and your dog were in the
• 1:50:29
  house and they were struck obviously so violently were found in the front
• 1:50:34
  yard of the property outside the house.
• 1:50:36
  And obviously they did not.
• 1:50:39
  So don't be a dumb ass.
• 1:50:40
  Why are you doing 116 miles an hour on McLaren?
• 1:50:44
  He saw a McLaren.
• 1:50:45
  He had to
• 1:50:45
  take the challenge.
• 1:50:47
  That sounds more like though they didn't know how to drive the car.
• 1:50:49
  There are brakes, but not really, right?
• 1:50:51
  You decelerate by kind of letting off the pedal and things.
• 1:50:54
  I mean, to be that egregiously stupid, you think it was just.
• 1:50:59
  Driver error.
• 1:51:00
  Maybe they couldn't figure out how to slow it down or something.
• 1:51:02
  I
• 1:51:02
  mean, it's possible.
• 1:51:03
  Maybe they realized they were going a still too fast on the road speed,
• 1:51:08
  but nowhere near that aggressive.
• 1:51:10
  And then made a mistake and further thought
• 1:51:15
  the flux capacitor was working when he hit 88 miles an hour,
• 1:51:19
  they would go back in time,
• 1:51:20
  but he wishes that that was true.
• 1:51:23
  But,
• 1:51:24
  um,
• 1:51:24
  I think he's in jail now, rightfully so, if he was an idiot.
• 1:51:28
  Yeah, that is really unfortunate.
• 1:51:30
  So be careful here in Florida.
• 1:51:31
  We could digress into EVs and it's, it's a whole thing when they accelerate so fast.
• 1:51:36
  Hold on,
• 1:51:36
  hold on, hold on.
• 1:51:37
  Wait a second.
• 1:51:38
  Wait.
• 1:51:38
  I just realized I had this mental picture.
• 1:51:40
  First of all, how tall was the house?
• 1:51:42
  Because this, this Tesla went airborne.
• 1:51:44
  I
• 1:51:44
  mean, it's Florida.
• 1:51:45
  So I imagine it's probably one.
• 1:51:46
  Oh, okay.
• 1:51:47
  I was thinking like a two
• 1:51:48
  story Victorian or something like chop it off.
• 1:51:51
  It's Tampa.
• 1:51:52
  So it looks like a one, like a rancher.
• 1:51:56
  I thought it was like the car from Harry Potter, you know, or like flies around.
• 1:51:59
  I think it kind of like definitely probably came airborne and came like.
• 1:52:03
  Clip the roof and then like came down in the house.
• 1:52:06
  Probably.
• 1:52:06
  That's definitely sad.
• 1:52:07
  And I think, I think I need a hug now.
• 1:52:09
  I know.
• 1:52:10
  Right.
• 1:52:10
  Yeah.
• 1:52:11
  Start it.
• 1:52:11
  So you need a hug.
• 1:52:13
  Well then why don't you head on over to Texas where a Houston woman known as
• 1:52:20
  pink celebrity, there's not much text.
• 1:52:23
  You just need to watch the video and it's.
• 1:52:26
  NSFW, I would say.
• 1:52:28
  She is a very scantily clad woman riding in various positions on the exterior
• 1:52:34
  of, I believe it was a Charger, as the driver is doing doughnuts in some parking
• 1:52:40
  lot and she's barely dressed, twerking.
• 1:52:46
  Hanging out the side of the car on the windshield, wherever she can hold
• 1:52:51
  on, just twerking it as he's drifting.
• 1:52:55
  I just want to know, is this an actual legitimate news?
• 1:52:58
  It's Fox.
• 1:52:59
  This is an actual news channel.
• 1:53:00
  They
• 1:53:01
  only show the best news.
• 1:53:04
  They show her twerking, right?
• 1:53:06
  Her ass is all out in the, in the, the tagline reads the pink
• 1:53:10
  celeb twerks her ass on a car.
• 1:53:13
  They actually put that on the broadcast.
• 1:53:15
  Really?
• 1:53:16
  You know, somebody was having way too much fun with this and they slipped that
• 1:53:19
  in there, probably last minute on Leo.
• 1:53:20
  We'll put that on and see, but I don't know.
• 1:53:22
  It's talent.
• 1:53:23
  She's hanging on.
• 1:53:24
  And I
• 1:53:24
  mean, both the driver and her, I mean, this is pretty awesome.
• 1:53:30
  I'm not gonna lie.
• 1:53:31
  This is really good.
• 1:53:32
  How are you supposed to get the dollars to her though?
• 1:53:36
  She's moving too fast.
• 1:53:37
  It'd be funny if there weren't two guys running behind the car,
• 1:53:39
  throwing dollar bills at her.
• 1:53:41
  The paint job is, leaves a little to be desired though.
• 1:53:44
  Like I'm not a fan of the baby blue and the pink, but you know, I mean, better
• 1:53:48
  than the woman in Britain that was doing the same thing and fell out onto
• 1:53:51
  the highway or actually kill herself.
• 1:53:53
  Right.
• 1:53:54
  I mean, so, I mean, wow.
• 1:53:56
  I mean,
• 1:53:57
  I mean, at least, yeah, they were confined to a parking lot trying to keep it safe
• 1:54:01
  doing it for the gram, you know, but doing for the tick tock, I don't know
• 1:54:04
  now, now, Eric, you want to know what that car smells like
• 1:54:09
  and sin.
• 1:54:10
  So that smells like
• 1:54:12
  it says she's the CEO of the car club.
• 1:54:16
  All right.
• 1:54:16
  What?
• 1:54:17
  Imagine that board meeting.
• 1:54:18
  My goodness.
• 1:54:20
  What'd you all do on Friday?
• 1:54:21
  So in other news, Fargo.
• 1:54:26
  So we're going north for this one.
• 1:54:28
  And, uh, obviously if this is Fargo, uh, I believe in North Dakota, right?
• 1:54:34
  It gets cold up there.
• 1:54:35
  Animals like to hibernate sometimes in the, in the cold months, they
• 1:54:39
  like to store food because obviously when everything dies in the So
• 1:54:43
  one, you know, entrepreneurial.
• 1:54:47
  The owner of his Chevy Avalanche, great SUV there, found, when he decided to open
• 1:54:53
  the hood of his Chevy Avalanche, or maybe tried to turn the car on and started
• 1:54:56
  hearing some weird noises or something, I don't know, he discovered 42 gallons, or
• 1:55:02
  150 pounds, which is more meaningful, 150 pounds of black walnuts stuffed inside.
• 1:55:08
  Everywhere in the engine bay on a Chevy.
• 1:55:14
  Why
• 1:55:15
  are so weird?
• 1:55:17
  I'm going to regret this.
• 1:55:18
  Cause I know you're going to tagline it out somewhere else, but those
• 1:55:20
  are the biggest nuts I've ever seen.
• 1:55:24
  They're huge.
• 1:55:25
  Those look like lemons.
• 1:55:27
  Yeah.
• 1:55:27
  So I have black Walnut trees here on my property and they're about the size of
• 1:55:32
  tennis balls when they're fully mature.
• 1:55:34
  And by the way, They are hard as rocks.
• 1:55:36
  You could run them over with that avalanche and they will not bust open.
• 1:55:40
  I do not know how squirrels open those things up.
• 1:55:43
  They are just insane.
• 1:55:44
  They might as well have made us cement, but yeah, 150 pounds of black walnut.
• 1:55:48
  That's a lot of wall.
• 1:55:50
  I mean, mad props to that squirrel.
• 1:55:52
  He was busy,
• 1:55:53
  but this guy never drives his car right.
• 1:55:55
  Or is he driving around town?
• 1:55:57
  accumulating nuts.
• 1:55:58
  Apparently, I guess a few days had gone by.
• 1:56:01
  That's
• 1:56:01
  quick.
• 1:56:02
  So I mean, this squirrel, I mean, shit.
• 1:56:04
  Apparently he started giving the walnuts away to people.
• 1:56:07
  How rude that that poor squirrel did all that work, all that heavy
• 1:56:10
  lifting to have his spoils just unceremoniously removed from, from
• 1:56:16
  the treasure chest of the avalanche.
• 1:56:18
  Well, 48 hours later, it was full again.
• 1:56:20
  I'm sure squirrel is industrious.
• 1:56:23
  I must resist.
• 1:56:24
  I'm trying so hard not to comment on this any further.
• 1:56:27
  You guys are just loving them up there.
• 1:56:30
  All right.
• 1:56:31
  This next one, I don't know.
• 1:56:34
  It came to us courtesy of garage ride.
• 1:56:35
  I'm just
• 1:56:36
  apparently came to us courtesy of garage rides.
• 1:56:37
  Kind of first laying my eyes on this one headline man arrested after shooting
• 1:56:42
  at car thieves on the headline of it.
• 1:56:44
  I'm kind of like, okay, I'm not sure.
• 1:56:46
  I think the funniest part ish is apparently backstory is this
• 1:56:50
  is Some dude in New Jersey, who's CEO of Meat Innovations
• 1:56:55
  Incorporated, whatever that is.
• 1:56:56
  Sure.
• 1:57:02
  Yeah.
• 1:57:02
  Okay.
• 1:57:03
  Clearly he's got a lot of money.
• 1:57:05
  Cause he's got an exotic and luxury car collection that apparently has
• 1:57:09
  been, had attempted robberies on it 18 times in the last two years.
• 1:57:14
  And the most recent attempt, which this is a recent article, but it's commenting
• 1:57:20
  on the March 25th, 2020 attempt that woke him in the middle of night, which had him
• 1:57:25
  running out of his mansion in the nude.
• 1:57:29
  Now we know why it's called meat innovations.
• 1:57:34
  In the nude with his AR 15, nothing but his AR 15 strapped around him.
• 1:57:39
  Is he, is he in the same car club as the pink celebrity?
• 1:57:46
  So what gets me is about this article is like Donovan said earlier, by
• 1:57:51
  going to the protest and his cowboy boots and nothing else, but the
• 1:57:53
  sign, this guy's already there.
• 1:57:55
  He's got his AR and he's running out after his car.
• 1:57:59
  He's ready to go.
• 1:57:59
  You
• 1:58:00
  know, he's serious too.
• 1:58:01
  He's like, this guy is crazy.
• 1:58:03
  He's naked.
• 1:58:04
  AR 15.
• 1:58:05
  What we really learned here is that he sleeps in the buff.
• 1:58:09
  Maybe.
• 1:58:10
  We don't know what he was doing.
• 1:58:11
  I
• 1:58:11
  mean, that's true.
• 1:58:12
  You're right.
• 1:58:12
  It was the middle of the night.
• 1:58:13
  We don't know what he was doing.
• 1:58:15
  I don't want to know what he was doing.
• 1:58:16
  But he got all his guns confiscated, not sure they necessarily were all
• 1:58:21
  so
• 1:58:21
  he's
• 1:58:21
  arrested for guns,
• 1:58:23
  decent exposure.
• 1:58:24
  And then he still got his car stolen.
• 1:58:27
  And it was a bad day in New Jersey.
• 1:58:30
  Oh, man.
• 1:58:32
  Well, they keep talking about these cars have been attempted.
• 1:58:35
  They've attempted to steal these cars.
• 1:58:36
  25 times since 2019.
• 1:58:40
  Stop parking
• 1:58:40
  them on the
• 1:58:40
  road!
• 1:58:41
  Right, or move them, or get a better security system, or, I mean There's so
• 1:58:45
  many things you could do here before you run in the nude
• 1:58:48
  with your AR 15 confronting
• 1:58:51
  In the middle of the night too, right?
• 1:58:52
  You're like, come on!
• 1:58:53
  Ugh.
• 1:58:54
  You can't make this stuff up.
• 1:58:56
  Well, and then you have the guy in Missouri who serves as a public
• 1:59:00
  service announcement for everyone.
• 1:59:02
  Well, not everyone, if you're going to sell catalytic converter online,
• 1:59:07
  and you're going to take photos of your catalytic converter, post
• 1:59:10
  them, be cognizant of what's in the background of your photos, probably
• 1:59:16
  not a good idea for your bag of meth.
• 1:59:22
  To be on display.
• 1:59:23
  I don't know anything about meth, but that looks like a big bag of meth.
• 1:59:26
  We all learned about meth from
• 1:59:27
  Breaking Bad.
• 1:59:28
  Come on now, you should know, you should be an expert.
• 1:59:30
  I still
• 1:59:30
  have yet to watch that.
• 1:59:31
  I need to catch up on this.
• 1:59:32
  I'm right there.
• 1:59:34
  Drive.
• 1:59:34
  You need to watch that and I'll watch Drive to Survive, all right?
• 1:59:37
  All
• 1:59:37
  right.
• 1:59:37
  So apparently it was 48 grams of meth, which probably is a lot.
• 1:59:41
  I don't know.
• 1:59:42
  And he had a pistol that he wasn't supposed to be having.
• 1:59:45
  So it was a bad day for that guy.
• 1:59:47
  All
• 1:59:47
  this on Facebook Marketplace.
• 1:59:49
  All of this caught on Facebook marketplace by someone who could,
• 1:59:53
  by someone who could recognize a bag of meth and report it to the police.
• 1:59:56
  Good point.
• 1:59:57
  How come they didn't put a stop on this is, uh, not appropriate for the
• 2:00:02
  same guys that were searching for the big clown bow tie and happened to find that
• 2:00:06
  AMX three that we talked about earlier.
• 2:00:08
  I mean, you know, Facebook Marketplace.
• 2:00:11
  Nevermind.
• 2:00:11
  I'm not going to go there.
• 2:00:12
  We'll go back down.
• 2:00:13
  The new
• 2:00:13
  Craigslist.
• 2:00:14
  We'll go back down to Florida real quick.
• 2:00:17
  And you know, this is just Florida men doing a Florida men do.
• 2:00:20
  And I'm pretty sure there's been other reports of this, but again,
• 2:00:24
  there's a Florida man caught mowing and going, as they say, so he needed
• 2:00:31
  something from 7 Eleven down the street.
• 2:00:33
  And he hopped on it, riding down John Deere tractor and just pulled up to 7
• 2:00:38
  Eleven.
• 2:00:39
  What's wrong
• 2:00:39
  with that?
• 2:00:40
  Apparently the legality of riding your lawnmower on a public road.
• 2:00:43
  But aside from that, the neighbors just think it's good fun.
• 2:00:46
  Where he screwed up is he should have cut the grass while he drove along and then
• 2:00:51
  he would have gotten polluted, right?
• 2:00:52
  Exactly.
• 2:00:53
  Two more things to add to this.
• 2:00:54
  Number one, soon this will be illegal anyway if California has their way so he's
• 2:00:59
  going to get his confiscated and two, at least he didn't end up like that other
• 2:01:03
  guy that was driving a tractor on the road and somehow managed to flip it over.
• 2:01:07
  If you remember last year.
• 2:01:12
  There's the video of the guy that gets the DUI on his lawnmower.
• 2:01:16
  How is that even a thing?
• 2:01:17
  I don't know.
• 2:01:17
  You have to look.
• 2:01:18
  It's on YouTube somewhere, but yeah, he is hammered and on a dirt road
• 2:01:21
  somewhere and they give him a DUI.
• 2:01:23
  So speaking of tractors, we're going to go down under for this one.
• 2:01:27
  Like quickly down under?
• 2:01:29
  So we've got one coming out of Australia and
• 2:01:32
  yeah,
• 2:01:33
  this gentleman really wanted to steal two motorbikes from a
• 2:01:37
  dealership and thought that a big yellow tractor, like construction
• 2:01:42
  tractor would be the perfect theft vehicle and getaway vehicle for this.
• 2:01:47
  So he was quickly intercepted at which point dropped the bikes, but then.
• 2:01:52
  proceeded to bring the police on a chase, which if you think about it, he had a
• 2:01:57
  pretty good vehicle because he cut across lawns and farms and train tracks and all
• 2:02:03
  this stuff before abandoning on foot.
• 2:02:06
  I mean, you wouldn't have been able to do this in a car.
• 2:02:09
  So maybe he didn't have the wrong idea after all.
• 2:02:12
  And to be fair, that's a wheel loader.
• 2:02:14
  That's not a truck.
• 2:02:15
  And I've actually driven one of these.
• 2:02:16
  They're really cool to drive.
• 2:02:17
  But yeah, I'm with you.
• 2:02:18
  He's got basically a lift on the front.
• 2:02:20
  So there is nothing getting in his way.
• 2:02:22
  He wants a house.
• 2:02:23
  He just picks it up, tears it apart.
• 2:02:25
  So did they say he got caught or did he get away?
• 2:02:27
  No, they did arrest him.
• 2:02:28
  41 year old man, several offenses.
• 2:02:31
  Hold on
• 2:02:32
  a second.
• 2:02:34
  Okay.
• 2:02:35
  First of all, the tractor wheel loader, skid loader, that dump truck
• 2:02:38
  made by Rolls Royce from last month.
• 2:02:40
  It doesn't matter.
• 2:02:41
  I'm going to ask a very pointed question.
• 2:02:43
  What is the suspected top speed wheel loader?
• 2:02:48
  25.
• 2:02:48
  Are
• 2:02:50
  you kidding me?
• 2:02:51
  Yeah, let's be real.
• 2:02:52
  He's probably doing like.
• 2:02:53
  Four.
• 2:02:54
  Okay, so the Mounties or whatever they're called down there,
• 2:02:57
  they can't catch this guy.
• 2:02:59
  I mean, seriously, you could probably run and catch this
• 2:03:01
  tractor, let alone whatever it is.
• 2:03:03
  And they're dirt
• 2:03:04
  bikes, right?
• 2:03:05
  And I don't know, it's been a while since I've been on one.
• 2:03:09
  Do they have keys?
• 2:03:10
  I mean, he busted the window.
• 2:03:11
  Could he not just driven the dirt bike away?
• 2:03:13
  That's what he
• 2:03:15
  wanted two of them.
• 2:03:16
  He couldn't drive two of them at the time.
• 2:03:18
  That's where his plan failed.
• 2:03:20
  We know that those motorcycle chariot races, you can run
• 2:03:23
  two of them at the same time.
• 2:03:25
  I
• 2:03:25
  was going to say he's not aware of the chariots.
• 2:03:28
  That would have been the true getaway vehicle.
• 2:03:30
  Is he an expat from France?
• 2:03:32
  Because he has another friend.
• 2:03:34
  If so, why didn't friend help him out?
• 2:03:36
  Or maybe that's the problem.
• 2:03:37
  Maybe he was trying to get a friend and do a good deed.
• 2:03:39
  And then the police screwed it up.
• 2:03:41
  I think that's what it is.
• 2:03:42
  Again, like 4 miles an hour.
• 2:03:44
  Okay.
• 2:03:44
  I just want to reiterate the fact that this is a tractor.
• 2:03:48
  I mean, if you're not well versed in driving 1 of those, there's no
• 2:03:51
  way he's going to go like that.
• 2:03:52
  Top speed, even if it is 25, but 25 is still slow.
• 2:03:56
  Even those freaking Astra diesels or whatever they use over there.
• 2:04:00
  It's got to be able to catch this tractor, right?
• 2:04:02
  And you see, he takes that turn and picks the front wheel up off the ground.
• 2:04:05
  He almost rolled it over.
• 2:04:07
  That would have been a better hint of the story.
• 2:04:09
  Maybe that explains how the guy flipped that other tractor over from last year.
• 2:04:12
  Tanya.
• 2:04:12
  I mean,
• 2:04:13
  he was riding that thing.
• 2:04:15
  So
• 2:04:15
  nobody's even asking where he got the wheel loader from,
• 2:04:19
  so he obviously stole that.
• 2:04:20
  So it was a
• 2:04:21
  chain of events.
• 2:04:22
  Right?
• 2:04:23
  Exactly.
• 2:04:23
  There was
• 2:04:24
  a whole lot of screwing up going
• 2:04:25
  on.
• 2:04:26
  That's
• 2:04:28
  part of the multiple offenses he's charged with.
• 2:04:33
  Geez.
• 2:04:34
  Well, I guess it's time for us to go behind the pit wall and
• 2:04:37
  talk about motorsports news.
• 2:04:39
  Apparently Ricardo won a bet or lost the bet, but it ends in him
• 2:04:43
  driving one of Dale Earnhardt's NASCARs at the American GP.
• 2:04:47
  So I don't know if he's being punished or being praised, but apparently
• 2:04:50
  he's going to be, Campaigning one of Dale Earnhardt's 1984 Monte
• 2:04:54
  Carlos at the American Grand Prix.
• 2:04:57
  So what's
• 2:04:57
  the American Grand Prix talking about the F1 track?
• 2:05:01
  Yeah.
• 2:05:01
  He's going to drive a NASCAR at the F1 track.
• 2:05:03
  Yes.
• 2:05:04
  Nothing about that makes sense.
• 2:05:06
  Nope.
• 2:05:06
  He's going to do it.
• 2:05:07
  Like they do all those other parade laps and you're like, yay, whatever.
• 2:05:13
  I was like, I was like, how did this even make news?
• 2:05:16
  But I was like, ah, well, okay, fine, whatever.
• 2:05:18
  I mean, there's so much drama in Formula One every week, but I was
• 2:05:20
  like, this is NASCAR adjacent.
• 2:05:22
  Normally Brad like follows all that kind of stuff and reports on it.
• 2:05:25
  So I didn't spend a whole ton of time, but I was like, Oh, that's cute.
• 2:05:28
  That's fun.
• 2:05:29
  I don't think he's actually.
• 2:05:30
  Competing in a race.
• 2:05:31
  I think he's just doing a couple of laps in it.
• 2:05:33
  Maybe he'll drift it.
• 2:05:34
  We can get Ken Block to go sideways around the Dale Earnhardt's Monte Carlo.
• 2:05:38
  Last month, we talked about Volkswagen and F1 and, you know, talked about
• 2:05:43
  the whole, you know, hybrid system and how they're looking to use Volkswagen
• 2:05:47
  technology to replace the current system that they have and all these
• 2:05:49
  fun, really technological things.
• 2:05:51
  And you can go re review that episode and go re review that article.
• 2:05:53
  This new article that came out about.
• 2:05:55
  Two weeks later from the one we talked about last month, the only important
• 2:05:58
  part that came out of this article that's super important to F1 is something that
• 2:06:02
  I have been hoping, wishing and praying for, for many, many years, which is
• 2:06:07
  Audi or Porsche coming to Formula One.
• 2:06:10
  And that's the speculation right now from F1 insiders are saying if
• 2:06:14
  Volkswagen makes this move to provide power plants and whatnot, we may see
• 2:06:18
  Audi and Porsche or maybe Porsche Audi, like in the old Can Am days branded.
• 2:06:23
  Formula one cars, but we're not going to see them until 2026.
• 2:06:26
  So I'm really excited about this.
• 2:06:29
  I've seen different snippets of articles and things, and I can't tell
• 2:06:32
  one article look like they were going to come separately as two different
• 2:06:35
  teams, and then I've heard kind of together, I think if they were
• 2:06:38
  different teams, that would be amazing,
• 2:06:40
  but it would be alpha and Ferrari at that point.
• 2:06:42
  It's like, what's the difference, right?
• 2:06:43
  Red Bull, Toro Rosso and Red Bull.
• 2:06:45
  I mean, come on, speaking of Alfa Romeo, you know, there's There's been a lot of
• 2:06:49
  connecting the dots from, I'm going to put air quotes around it again, Formula
• 2:06:52
  One insiders about Team Andretti, which we talked about last month.
• 2:06:56
  And basically it looks like Andretti might be making a minority interest
• 2:07:03
  investment, or maybe it's going to be a majority interest investment.
• 2:07:08
  in Alfa Romeo, the former Sauber Formula One team.
• 2:07:12
  So maybe that's how they're going to fast track their way
• 2:07:15
  into Formula One next year.
• 2:07:17
  I mean, they've already signed up Grosjean, or Grosjean,
• 2:07:19
  however you pronounce it, for 2022 under Team Andretti.
• 2:07:22
  So I was wondering how they were going to do that.
• 2:07:24
  You know, get a kick of adrenaline here and get it done.
• 2:07:26
  But you know, if they're going to buy into alpha or male,
• 2:07:28
  maybe that's the way to do it.
• 2:07:30
  So I didn't understand this article either, because they were
• 2:07:32
  talking about, they've been looking to get an F1 for a long time.
• 2:07:35
  There's at least two teams that have changed hands in the past couple of years.
• 2:07:38
  Right.
• 2:07:39
  What were they just not eligible?
• 2:07:41
  Uh, are they gonna, and then you look at Porsche, the conversation we just had
• 2:07:45
  Portionality, my understanding is right.
• 2:07:47
  There's only so many available spots for teams in formula one.
• 2:07:51
  So you got two teams potentially coming in one, maybe he's going to buy one.
• 2:07:54
  So what's going to happen to you?
• 2:07:55
  Are they going to expand or how that's all going to work?
• 2:07:56
  I think it's going to be really interesting to watch, especially with
• 2:07:58
  the new cars and everything next year.
• 2:08:00
  I think the next couple of years are going to be exciting, especially with this year.
• 2:08:03
  The one thing I thought though, that I'm still confused about is I thought
• 2:08:06
  Williams was done and then I just hear their name being thrown around again.
• 2:08:09
  And Oh, Williams for next year.
• 2:08:11
  And I'm like, I thought they were like bankrupt or something,
• 2:08:13
  but they were bought by
• 2:08:14
  the investment group.
• 2:08:16
  Yeah.
• 2:08:16
  Those guys.
• 2:08:16
  And then a racing point.
• 2:08:17
  So
• 2:08:18
  for Cindy or whatever they were called before that and all that,
• 2:08:21
  that kind of thing, I just wish the big brands would come back.
• 2:08:23
  You'd have team Lotus and all this kind of stuff.
• 2:08:25
  Not all these, like, you know, it companies basically plastered
• 2:08:28
  on the side of the cars.
• 2:08:29
  One other article that came across my desk.
• 2:08:31
  From the formula one side of the house that I thought was kind of
• 2:08:34
  interesting were races that were planned for the last couple of years
• 2:08:37
  that didn't happen because of COVID.
• 2:08:38
  Obviously, the big one everybody knows Vietnam was supposed to
• 2:08:41
  happen on the street circuit that they built there look kind of cool.
• 2:08:44
  We saw these drone footage of where the cars were going to be and how they were
• 2:08:47
  going to navigate the street course.
• 2:08:50
  But I was like, okay, whatever.
• 2:08:52
  But then as I was scrolling through this list, I see things like Zuhai.
• 2:08:55
  That's cool.
• 2:08:56
  Ontario, what port Imperial street circuit.
• 2:08:59
  That's pretty interesting.
• 2:09:01
  Cause that's in New York.
• 2:09:03
  Not sure how that was going to work.
• 2:09:05
  A street circuit in Rome, the course looks absolutely mental.
• 2:09:09
  And then you had the Autopolis.
• 2:09:11
  So they were planning on like six new tracks up through the 2022 season that
• 2:09:16
  none of these are now going to happen.
• 2:09:18
  I mean, I'm glad they brought back like Zandvoort and some of the
• 2:09:20
  other classic Formula One tracks.
• 2:09:22
  I'd love to see like Zolder and some other stuff returned to the schedule as well.
• 2:09:26
  You know, Formula One does need to mix it up a little bit.
• 2:09:29
  I mean, there are a lot of tracks that have just been walked away from, and
• 2:09:32
  it's a shame, you know, you know, And so we'll run their occasionally prototypes
• 2:09:36
  will run their other forms of racing, you know, TCR and things like that.
• 2:09:39
  But, you know, it'd be nice to see the big boys, you know, bring it in.
• 2:09:41
  It's kind of like, you know, when the Olympics come to a new town,
• 2:09:43
  it brings in tourism, brings all this other kind of stuff.
• 2:09:45
  And I think, you know, F1 is the messenger for that.
• 2:09:48
  And I think it's a good thing for those economies.
• 2:09:50
  So,
• 2:09:50
  so they did bring Zandvoort back, right, which was pretty cool.
• 2:09:53
  Uh, it'd be cool to see them come back to South America.
• 2:09:55
  I just saw the other day that this is, it's either this year
• 2:09:58
  or next year is the last year for Sochi and they're moving to St.
• 2:10:01
  Petersburg.
• 2:10:01
  I think a new track somewhere else in Russia,
• 2:10:03
  but that's a new old track is didn't they run St.
• 2:10:05
  Petersburg like a million years ago?
• 2:10:07
  Oh, is it?
• 2:10:07
  I thought it was a brand new purpose.
• 2:10:09
  Or maybe, or maybe
• 2:10:09
  no, I'm thinking about the indie track in Florida, which was St.
• 2:10:12
  Petersburg.
• 2:10:13
  My apologies.
• 2:10:14
  Yeah, well, then you got
• 2:10:15
  Miami coming next year.
• 2:10:16
  So yeah, I think it's cool to see some tracks they haven't
• 2:10:18
  been on in a long time.
• 2:10:19
  A couple of this year, they were just somewhere they hadn't
• 2:10:21
  been since 2010 or something.
• 2:10:22
  So I like that track though.
• 2:10:24
  The Rome track that looks amazing.
• 2:10:26
  That looks like something straight out of Forza.
• 2:10:27
  Yeah.
• 2:10:28
  And that should be in Forza.
• 2:10:29
  Like some of these are in project cars, which I think is pretty cool.
• 2:10:31
  Like I've driven Zuhai, some of the other ones that are on this list in
• 2:10:34
  that game, which is kind of neat.
• 2:10:36
  I'd love to see this in Forza Motorsport 8 whenever that comes out.
• 2:10:39
  So who knows, right?
• 2:10:41
  But I guess we'll talk about more about the VRL as we.
• 2:10:44
  Head deeper into the fall.
• 2:10:45
  Outside of that, the only other thing that came across my desk that
• 2:10:48
  I thought was actually interesting was coming from the IMSA side of the
• 2:10:51
  house or the WEC side of the house.
• 2:10:53
  Michael Fastbender has a new set of videos.
• 2:10:56
  It's like a, almost like a drive to survive.
• 2:10:58
  They're on YouTube, he calls them the Road to Lamonts and.
• 2:11:02
  I hate to say they're not Drive to Survive and they're not quite Truth in 24 either.
• 2:11:06
  You know, there's no Jason Statham narrating or anything like that.
• 2:11:09
  If you're into following Michael Fassbender or any of his
• 2:11:12
  stuff, or you want to see, get introduced to Lamont's, watch it.
• 2:11:16
  I'm not discouraging anybody from doing that.
• 2:11:18
  It's just, I'm kind of like, okay, I already, I already
• 2:11:20
  know a lot of this stuff.
• 2:11:21
  So it's not really for me, but you know, hey.
• 2:11:23
  Check it out.
• 2:11:24
  Something different.
• 2:11:24
  Something to kill some time in the evenings now that we're heading
• 2:11:26
  into the fall and into the winter.
• 2:11:28
  So switching into our final section, kind of wrapping up with some local news here.
• 2:11:32
  Our year is coming to a close.
• 2:11:34
  We have not yet set the date for awards night.
• 2:11:37
  And if you're listening to this, the Watkins Glen HOD
• 2:11:40
  three day is already over with.
• 2:11:42
  So it pretty much wraps up the season for most of us as it's
• 2:11:45
  getting to be colder and colder.
• 2:11:46
  There's a few events left out there, you know, thanks to HPD junkie, taking
• 2:11:49
  care of keeping the, all those track dates up to date all the way into
• 2:11:54
  the end of the calendar year, because there are events going on in the
• 2:11:58
  South, especially where it's warmer and at West and things like that.
• 2:12:00
  But for us here in the mid Atlantic and the Northeast, you know,
• 2:12:03
  tracks are beginning to close down.
• 2:12:05
  And so you still do have the end of year events, you know, with Audi club,
• 2:12:08
  you know, traditionally at BIR in November, you know, things like that.
• 2:12:11
  So keep an eye on.
• 2:12:12
  the schedule helmets off the heroes with SCCA is at Shenandoah again, the
• 2:12:17
  beginning of November, very close to veterans day, not on veterans day, you
• 2:12:22
  know, look for those types of events.
• 2:12:23
  And obviously there's still going to be some autocross events as well
• 2:12:26
  in the DC area because they're doing track cross hosted a lot at summit
• 2:12:30
  point, which is really cool to watch.
• 2:12:31
  And some of our members actually do that, but there's some other
• 2:12:34
  big news coming this fall, right?
• 2:12:36
  Donovan.
• 2:12:36
  Yeah, that's right.
• 2:12:37
  So garage ride is moving platform.
• 2:12:40
  So Eric's been helping out a lot with that doing a lot of the work there.
• 2:12:43
  So we've been working pretty closely together, but pretty excited to
• 2:12:45
  announce that we're moving sort of, we're definitely changing platforms.
• 2:12:49
  Our old one's been around for five years.
• 2:12:51
  It's served us well, but we're excited.
• 2:12:52
  Some of the new features coming and some new stability in the platform.
• 2:12:56
  So If you haven't already, you can visit the, uh, the new platform.
• 2:13:00
  Uh, there's links on the current.
• 2:13:01
  com site.
• 2:13:02
  We hope to have everything built out and switched over
• 2:13:04
  officially sometime in November.
• 2:13:05
  So look forward to seeing you online.
• 2:13:07
  That's right.
• 2:13:07
  And there's a new phone app coming out as well.
• 2:13:09
  Right.
• 2:13:09
  So we should be looking for some big changes.
• 2:13:11
  That's right.
• 2:13:11
  Yeah.
• 2:13:12
  Those will replace your existing apps should just be a regular
• 2:13:15
  update from the app stores.
• 2:13:17
  So, yeah.
• 2:13:17
  Looking forward to it.
• 2:13:18
  Very cool.
• 2:13:18
  And if you have any feedback, there's still a bit of an open beta left.
• 2:13:22
  So reach out to Donovan.
• 2:13:24
  If you're an existing GarageRiot member, go ahead and check out the
• 2:13:27
  old site for details on how to get to the new one, do a passive reset and
• 2:13:31
  get in on the new platform now, and, you know, start making your transition
• 2:13:35
  over early because we are accepting, Early access into the new platform.
• 2:13:39
  Now, outside of that, what else is exciting going on Donovan?
• 2:13:42
  We're going to Rhode Atlanta.
• 2:13:44
  That's right.
• 2:13:45
  Petite Le Mans, right?
• 2:13:47
  And we are looking to get together with some of our friends that have
• 2:13:50
  been on the podcast before folks.
• 2:13:52
  Like David Middleton from my racing episode.
• 2:13:55
  That's going to air here in November.
• 2:13:56
  We're going to see Rob Holland from Rotec racing.
• 2:13:59
  We're going to see Phil and Brendan from max speed track days.
• 2:14:02
  We'll probably run into Mark Hicks from chin as well.
• 2:14:05
  Everybody's located down in the general.
• 2:14:08
  Atlanta area.
• 2:14:08
  So it's going to be good to get together with some of our guests.
• 2:14:10
  And our plan is to take photographs and maybe do some live streaming
• 2:14:14
  from down there between a garage riot and GTM while we're on site at the
• 2:14:18
  petite Lamont's for those two, three days that the races are going on.
• 2:14:22
  So we're looking forward to that.
• 2:14:23
  It's going to be a lot of fun.
• 2:14:24
  Yeah, definitely.
• 2:14:24
  We'll have to get you up to some of the mountain roads too, while we're here.
• 2:14:26
  I get to pick keys from a, from a bowl, right?
• 2:14:29
  Is that how it works?
• 2:14:30
  Uh, it's not that kind of party, but Hey, you never know
• 2:14:33
  outside of that sneak peek, a little bit of a spoiler alert of
• 2:14:36
  some other things that are coming.
• 2:14:37
  Online here in the fall, look forward to some really cool podcast episodes.
• 2:14:42
  Like we did last year, some lookbacks, some retrospectives, also our
• 2:14:46
  holiday shopping guide coming out.
• 2:14:48
  But also we are looking forward to going out West and reporting live
• 2:14:54
  from the mint 400 in December.
• 2:14:57
  So stay tuned for details on that and look For some upcoming episodes
• 2:15:00
  in the following weeks on what that's all about and why that's
• 2:15:04
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  You might still be catching up on episodes of Clarkson's Farm, but But did
• 2:15:52
  you know Porsche made diesel tractors?
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  Neither did I until I listened to this month's episode with Mountain
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  Man Dan, who interviews Sal Fanelli, president of Porsche Diesel USA.
• 2:16:01
  And finally, as we prep for fall motorsports, we revisited part two
• 2:16:04
  of Drew's All the Tourcums episode called Jesus Take the Wheel, as we
• 2:16:09
  got his opinion on the fall season.
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  Future of off roading and some great Pitstop banter.
• 2:16:13
  Thank you to everyone that came on the show this month, and please look
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  forward to more great episodes this fall.
• 2:16:17
  So no new Patreons this month, but a big shout out to Donovan for working together
• 2:16:24
  with us on this project on Garage Riot 2.
• 2:16:26
  0, we're going to call it.
• 2:16:27
  So thank you again for that.
• 2:16:28
  Some other shout outs this month to folks that are celebrating anniversaries
• 2:16:32
  in GTM, Doug Turner, six years.
• 2:16:35
  Ben Scherf, six years, Chris Waite from the DC area is celebrating
• 2:16:38
  his third year with the club.
• 2:16:40
  Mike Ruber is celebrating his first year and Nate and Emily, who we
• 2:16:45
  were introduced to by way of garage ride and also by the crutch fields
• 2:16:48
  are celebrating their first year.
• 2:16:49
  And I do want to take a moment.
• 2:16:51
  If Nate and Emily are listening to this episode, we wish Emily a
• 2:16:55
  speedy recovery from her recent car accident that she was in.
• 2:16:58
  So we wish you the best.
• 2:16:59
  And we hope that this podcast is helping you spend some time as you recuperate.
• 2:17:03
  So again, big thanks and big shout out to Donovan for
• 2:17:06
  coming in, filling in for Brad.
• 2:17:07
  We always love having you on the show.
• 2:17:09
  You've been on a multitude of break fix episodes.
• 2:17:12
  You can actually find all of the episodes Donovan has been on,
• 2:17:15
  on the new Garage Riot platform.
• 2:17:16
  There's a special page for them and future episodes that he's going to
• 2:17:19
  be on will also be listed there.
• 2:17:21
  So if you're a Garage Riot member.
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  Check them out, go back into that time capsule and see where Donovan's
• 2:17:26
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• 2:17:29
  and look forward to really cool episodes coming this winter and
• 2:17:34
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• 2:17:57
  So if you want to send that to me, that would be awesome.
• 2:17:58
  But I get paid in, uh, noodles and hugs and kisses too.
• 2:18:01
  So I don't know where that was going.
• 2:18:03
  So what's his
• 2:18:04
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• 2:18:07
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• 2:18:11
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• 2:18:21
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