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SCOTUS’ Most Consequential Case in Years | Episode 259 · V

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Speaker 1: or prevent any disease or condition. Wow, what a night.
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Speaker 1: Holy cow. Okay, so we've got a big speech from
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Speaker 1: the president of the United States last night, 9 p.m.
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Speaker 1: Eastern time, as he stepped— very promptly, by the way. That
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Speaker 1: was pretty cool. He stepped up right on the dot
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Speaker 1: and gives a speech on an update on what the
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Speaker 1: heck is going on in Iran. And the president, he— I
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Speaker 1: would say if there was a tone to the speech,
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Speaker 1: it was one of relief. It was that, hey— look,
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Speaker 1: I finally did this, 47 years of this nonsense. I
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Speaker 1: decided to finally pull the trigger. And the reason for
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Speaker 1: that was because the threat was very, very imminent and
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Speaker 1: we needed to take these guys out. So we did.
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Speaker 1: And now over the next two to three weeks, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna wrap this thing up, the president announced last night
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Speaker 1: with the most resolve I've heard him use throughout this
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Speaker 1: entire saga. In fact, I'm gonna take you through some
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Speaker 1: of the clips right now and just give you a
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Speaker 1: sense of what the president had to say last night
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Speaker 1: Here is the president just saying that his first preference
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Speaker 1: in all of this was always diplomacy. This is what
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Speaker 1: he wanted to do. He said, I just I wanted
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Speaker 1: diplomacy here. And but we didn't we weren't able to
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Speaker 1: do that. So we we just decided to blow him up.
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Speaker 2: My first preference was always the path of diplomacy. Yet
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Speaker 2: the regime continued their relentless quest for nuclear weapons and
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Speaker 2: rejected every attempt at an agreement. For this reason, in June,
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Speaker 2: I ordered a strike on Iran's key nuclear facilities, an
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Speaker 2: Operation Midnight Hammer. Nobody's ever seen anything like it. Those
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Speaker 2: beautiful B-2 bombers performed magnificently. We totally obliterated those nuclear sites.
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Speaker 2: The regime then sought to rebuild their nuclear program at
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Speaker 2: a totally different location, making clear they had no intention
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Speaker 2: of abandoning.
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Speaker 3: Their pursuit of nuclear weapons.
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Speaker 2: They were also rapidly building a vast stockpile of conventional
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Speaker 2: ballistic missiles and would soon have had missiles that could
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Speaker 2: reach the American homeland, Europe, and virtually any other place
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Speaker 2: on Earth. Iran's strategy was so obvious. They wanted to
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Speaker 2: produce as many missiles as possible, and they did, with
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Speaker 2: the longest range possible and They had some weapons that
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Speaker 2: nobody believed they had.
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Speaker 3: We just learned that out. We took them out.
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Speaker 2: We took them all out so that no one would
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Speaker 2: really dare stop them. And they're raised for a nuclear bomb,
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Speaker 2: a nuclear weapon, a nuclear weapon like nobody's ever seen before.
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Speaker 1: All right. So there's the president of the United States
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Speaker 1: explaining some of where we were in this conflict. And that's,
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Speaker 1: I think, one of the most important recitations of the
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Speaker 1: facts yet. And Marco Rubio said something similar in the
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Speaker 1: last 48 hours. where he said that, look, these guys
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Speaker 1: in their pursuit of a nuclear weapon, what they had
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Speaker 1: decided to do, they had shifted strategy. They decided that
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Speaker 1: they were going to build a massive conventional force of missiles.
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Speaker 1: They wanted to blanket that entire region with missiles in
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Speaker 1: such a way that nobody could really get in there
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Speaker 1: without a massive, massive war breaking out. So the buildup
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Speaker 1: of conventional arms had become really immense. And as Secretary
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Speaker 1: of State Marco Rubio said, again, now 48 hours ago,
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Speaker 1: that basically if we allowed this to continue by this
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Speaker 1: time next year, this would be an utter nightmare to
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Speaker 1: try to resolve. So the window was closing. So that's
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Speaker 1: why they decided to go after this. It's not merely
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Speaker 1: the stage of where the nuclear program is. It was
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Speaker 1: the stage of where the conventional armaments were as a
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Speaker 1: means to build up the nuclear program that we had
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Speaker 1: destroyed again. And so this is where the Trump administration
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Speaker 1: acted very swiftly to try and stop all of this. Now,
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Speaker 1: he said the strategy was obvious. We learned that they
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Speaker 1: had missiles that nobody thought that they had, and they
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Speaker 1: certainly did. Remember, they tried to fire a couple at
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Speaker 1: a U.S. military base in the Indian Ocean. They were
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Speaker 1: firing just very, very far away, far beyond what the
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Speaker 1: Iranians claimed they even could do. The president said, you know,
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Speaker 1: everybody's learned now that they definitely had these capabilities. And
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Speaker 1: then he went on last night and he said, you know,
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Speaker 1: we've beaten and decimated these guys. We've beaten and decimated
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Speaker 1: completely Iran. Take a listen. Here's the president last night
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Speaker 1: with an update on just how devastating the American military
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Speaker 1: has been here to these fellows.
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Speaker 3: Watch. Future. We don't need it. We haven't needed it
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Speaker 3: and we don't need it.
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Speaker 2: We've beaten and completely decimated Iran.
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Speaker 3: They are decimated.
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Speaker 2: Both militarily and economically and every other way. And the
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Speaker 2: countries of the world that do receive oil through the
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Speaker 2: Hormone Strait must take care of that passage. They must
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Speaker 2: cherish it. They must grab it and cherish it. They
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Speaker 2: can do it easily. We will be helpful, but they
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Speaker 2: should take the lead in protecting the oil that they
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Speaker 2: so desperately depend on. So to those countries that can't
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Speaker 2: get fuel, many of which refused.
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Speaker 3: Involved in the decapitation of Iran. We had to do
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Speaker 3: it ourselves. I have a suggestion. Number one, buy oil
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Speaker 3: from the United States of America. We have plenty. We
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Speaker 3: have so much. And number two, build up some delayed courage.
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Speaker 2: Should have done it before. Should have done it with us,
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Speaker 2: as we asked. Go to the straight and just take it.
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Speaker 3: Protect it.
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Speaker 2: Use it for yourselves. Iran has been essentially decimated. The
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Speaker 2: hard part is done, so it should be easy.
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Speaker 1: All right, so this is a big moment. The president
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Speaker 1: is laying out that we have destroyed so many of
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Speaker 1: the military capabilities of Iran, so many. Now, is it
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Speaker 1: possible for them to continue to be a problem in
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Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormuz?
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Speaker 3: Of course.
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Speaker 1: But who has the biggest interest in seeing the Strait open?
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Speaker 1: It's actually not the United States. Clearly, we have an
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Speaker 1: interest just because of the global oil supply, but not
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Speaker 1: at the levels that so many countries in the region have.
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Speaker 1: Not at the levels that China has, not at the
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Speaker 1: levels that any of the European countries have. So they
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Speaker 1: need the Strait of Hormuz open. And the president is
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Speaker 1: calling on them to finally man up and do something
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Speaker 1: about it. He's like, look, I took care of the
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Speaker 1: principal threat. Most of their military capabilities are destroyed. Whatever's left,
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Speaker 1: you need to go in. and you need to make
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Speaker 1: sure that the Strait of Hormuz is open. We'll help you,
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Speaker 1: but fundamentally, this is your task. This is the president saying,
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Speaker 1: the United States is not going to police everything all
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Speaker 1: the time. You've got to clean up these messes that
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Speaker 1: affect you and your people directly. So here's the president
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Speaker 1: asking them to grow a pair and get in there
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Speaker 1: and actually fight for what they need for their people.
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Speaker 1: And he keeps asking for that, and I don't think
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Speaker 1: that's going to abate. But that's an important component to this,
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Speaker 1: and it's a clear sign that he's looking to extract
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Speaker 1: the lion's share of the U.S. presence from the straight,
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Speaker 1: from the region, over the course of the next two
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Speaker 1: to three weeks. He laid that out last night. He
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Speaker 1: said he is negotiating with the Iranians. He said that
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Speaker 1: with whoever the new people are that they're dealing with.
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Speaker 1: And here he is last night describing that very shortly,
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Speaker 1: we're going to hit them very hard over the next
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Speaker 1: two to three weeks, he says, but we are negotiating
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Speaker 1: with them at the very same time. Take a listen.
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Speaker 2: Complete all of America's military objectives shortly, very shortly. We're
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Speaker 2: going to hit them extremely hard over the next two
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Speaker 2: to three weeks. We're going to bring them back to
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Speaker 2: the Stone Ages, where they belong. In the meantime, discussions
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Speaker 2: are ongoing. Regime change was not our goal. We never
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Speaker 2: said regime change, but regime change.
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Speaker 3: Has occurred because of all of their original leaders' death.
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Speaker 3: They're all dead.
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Speaker 2: The new group is less radical and much more reasonable.
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Speaker 2: Yet if during this period of time no deal is made,
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Speaker 2: we have eyes on key targets.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 1: The president is really going with carrot and stick here.
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Speaker 1: You know, the carrot is you want a great relationship
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Speaker 1: with the United States. You want a flourishing situation for
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Speaker 1: your people. You want to get out of this, you know,
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Speaker 1: very successfully. That's opportunity awaits. Just say yes. Just say yes.
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Speaker 1: If you say yes, if you stop menacing the Strait
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Speaker 1: of Hormuz, if you play ball with us, you hand
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Speaker 1: over nuclear material, then we'll stop blowing you up. You
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Speaker 1: want a ceasefire? That's how you get a ceasefire. That's
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Speaker 1: all you have to do. But if you don't, we'll
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Speaker 1: keep destroying things. until you're brought to your knees and
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Speaker 1: you comply. So you pick one, the easy way or
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Speaker 1: the hard way. Which one is it going to be, Iran?
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Speaker 1: And now you've got, and he said, regime change was
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Speaker 1: not our goal. We were not out there to try
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Speaker 1: and change the regime. We were out there to stop
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Speaker 1: the threat. But the regime effectively has changed because we've
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Speaker 1: killed everybody at the top. There's a bunch of new
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Speaker 1: people coming up. And those new people, if you're ready
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Speaker 1: to work with us, we're ready to work with you.
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Speaker 1: And if you're not, maybe you meet the fate of
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Speaker 1: the old team. So these are your options. Choose wisely.
10:49
Speaker 1: president again last night. And then finally, he had a
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Speaker 1: message for the American people and people who are concerned
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Speaker 1: about this conflict and where it goes next. He said,
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Speaker 1: I just need everybody to keep everything in perspective. He
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Speaker 1: used the word perspective last night, which was, I thought,
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Speaker 1: pretty useful. Listen to him explaining that in terms of
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Speaker 1: the length of this conflict, it's way shorter than some
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Speaker 1: of the quagmires that the United States has ever been
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Speaker 1: involved in in the past. Here's the president of the
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Speaker 1: United States explaining. Watch.
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Speaker 3: It's very important.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, not all of these are quagmires.
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Speaker 1: Some of these are just conventional wars that we had
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Speaker 1: to fight.
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Speaker 2: To keep this conflict in perspective, American involvement in World
11:35
Speaker 2: War I lasted one year, seven months, and five days.
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Speaker 2: World War II lasted for three years, eight months, and
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Speaker 2: 25 days. The Korean War lasted for three years, one month,
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Speaker 2: and two days. The Vietnam War lasted for 19 years,
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Speaker 2: five months, and 29 days. Iraq went on for eight years,
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Speaker 2: eight months, and 28 days. We are in this military operation,
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Speaker 2: so powerful, so brilliant, against one of the most powerful
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Speaker 2: countries for 32 days. And the country has been eviscerated
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Speaker 2: and essentially is really no longer a threat.
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Speaker 1: So this goes to a point that I've been making
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Speaker 1: a lot, which is you've got to keep your perspective.
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Speaker 1: You've got to keep your perspective about the Trump era.
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Speaker 1: You've got to remember just how many victories we've had.
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Speaker 1: You know, I did on the radio show yesterday, I
12:36
Speaker 1: was kind of talking about this at length, but just
12:38
Speaker 1: how secure is our border right now? It's the most
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Speaker 1: secure it's ever been in American history. The most secure
12:44
Speaker 1: it's ever been in American history right now. What's the
12:47
Speaker 1: state of illegals in our country? We've deported 3 million
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Speaker 1: of them. 3 million are gone. What's the state of
12:53
Speaker 1: fentanyl in the country? Over half of the fentanyl, over
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Speaker 1: 50% of the fentanyl flows have dropped off. What's the
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Speaker 1: state of homicides in the country? We're at the lowest
13:02
Speaker 1: murder rate in recorded history. These are all signs that
13:09
Speaker 1: there's been massive successes in the Trump administration, and each
13:12
Speaker 1: one of those things alone would be a justification for
13:15
Speaker 1: for why President Trump deserves a massive double down on
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Speaker 1: his agenda going into the midterms. He's got a great
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Speaker 1: case to make. Great case. And as I talk about
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Speaker 1: this point of maintaining perspective, not to get mopey and
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Speaker 1: not to be like, oh, how come everything's horrible? The
13:30
Speaker 1: guy just explained, he goes, look, think about all these
13:33
Speaker 1: incredible conflicts in American history and how many years many
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Speaker 1: of them dragged on. I'm resolving the Iran problem So
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Speaker 1: far in 28 days, because I'm asking for two to
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Speaker 1: three more weeks. That's what he's asking from the American people.
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Speaker 1: Is that so much to ask? And I don't think
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Speaker 1: the answer to that is anything, but no, it's not
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Speaker 1: too much to ask. It's not too much to ask.
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Speaker 1: I want him to resolve this well. You know, regardless
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Speaker 1: of your feelings, I remember there was some early reporting
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Speaker 1: that maybe J.D. Vance or somebody was concerned about whether
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Speaker 1: or not we go in, but the report was that
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Speaker 1: his perspective was if we do, You got to hit
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Speaker 1: them hard and you got to win. That's how you
14:11
Speaker 1: got to handle this. OK, so whatever your initial feelings
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Speaker 1: were about the president choosing to go into Iran, we're
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Speaker 1: there now. So now the goal is make sure you
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Speaker 1: hit them hard enough and make sure you win.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 1: Capisce? I think that makes sense. I think that makes
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Speaker 1: a lot of sense. the president, with a big update
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Speaker 1: last night. So thank you for that, Mr. President. By
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Speaker 1: the way, the media got that completely wrong. The press
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Speaker 1: yesterday had so many reports that were completely wrong about
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Speaker 1: what the president was going to say. He was going
14:42
Speaker 1: to spend all of his time attacking NATO allies and
14:45
Speaker 1: all this other stuff. None of that happened. None of
14:47
Speaker 1: that happened. He just gave us as you might imagine,
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Speaker 1: as he's wont to do, an update because he thinks
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Speaker 1: the American people deserve one. This is the ongoing conversation
14:56
Speaker 1: that the president's always having with us. So that occurred
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Speaker 1: last night. Additionally, last night, the president posting to Truth
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Speaker 1: Social that a deal has been struck with the United
15:08
Speaker 1: States Congress to get funding for ICE and Border Patrol,
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Speaker 1: or at least a deal that he's okay with. He
15:16
Speaker 1: announced a two-phase plan to fund DHS last night And
15:20
Speaker 1: so here's the update on this story. In some sense,
15:24
Speaker 1: it's annoying, but it's clearly a sign that the president
15:26
Speaker 1: is done with the games. He doesn't want to play
15:28
Speaker 1: anymore on this one. Here's what he said. He said,
15:32
Speaker 1: Republicans fully support our great men and women of law enforcement.
15:36
Speaker 1: Maybe the word should be love. America thanks each and
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Speaker 1: every one of our wonderful police, Border Patrol, ICE, and
15:42
Speaker 1: others for their work to protect our cities, towns, streets,
15:45
Speaker 1: and indeed our country itself. Unlike Republicans, Democrats want us
15:49
Speaker 1: to defund the police, Border Patrol, and all immigration enforcement.
15:54
Speaker 1: They want to allow criminals, the mentally insane lunatics from
15:57
Speaker 1: all over the world to come into our country totally
15:59
Speaker 1: unvented and unchecked, putting Americans in serious danger. And so,
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Speaker 1: you guys, this is why we're going to go forward
16:04
Speaker 1: with incredible funding, rather, our incredible ICE agents and Border
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Speaker 1: Patrol through a process that doesn't need the radical left
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Speaker 1: Democrat votes. And that bill, he says, will be on
16:14
Speaker 1: his desk no later than June 1st. Okay, so what
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Speaker 1: he means, just to be crystal clear, is he's asking
16:21
Speaker 1: the United States Senate to use reconciliation, the United States Congress,
16:25
Speaker 1: to use the reconciliation process to fund ICE and Border Patrol. Now,
16:31
Speaker 1: you may be thinking to yourself, Vince, I thought ICE
16:33
Speaker 1: was already funded. I thought they had the money from
16:35
Speaker 1: the big, beautiful bill. The answer to that is, yes,
16:38
Speaker 1: they do. The people who aren't being funded right now
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Speaker 1: are the administrative employees at ICE and Border Patrol. This
16:46
Speaker 1: would be the civilian workforce at ICE and Border Patrol.
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Speaker 1: The support staff, the guys who keep turning the lights
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Speaker 1: on and off, the ones who operate all the administrative side,
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Speaker 1: All of those people not getting paid right now. And
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Speaker 1: they're probably not going to be paid based on this
17:03
Speaker 1: timetable until midway through the year. Now, that's a disaster.
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Speaker 1: It's a huge disaster. And it's caused by the Democrats
17:09
Speaker 1: who want to protect illegal aliens at the expense of
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Speaker 1: American citizens in our country. But the president's saying, this
17:15
Speaker 1: is the only way I can get this done right now.
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Speaker 1: So we're going for it. So he's going for reconciliation
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Speaker 1: to get that funding through. Now, what about the rest
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Speaker 1: of it? What about the TSA funding and the Coast
17:24
Speaker 1: Guard funding and everything else with DHS? Well, that brings
17:28
Speaker 1: us to what the Congress is going to do, which
17:30
Speaker 1: is already this morning, as we're speaking, the United States Senate,
17:35
Speaker 1: once again, by voice vote, cleared through that same legislation
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Speaker 1: they sent through last week, which is basically, we'll fund
17:43
Speaker 1: everything else. We'll fund everything else except for the administrative
17:46
Speaker 1: employees at ICE and Border Patrol. We'll do that right now.
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Speaker 1: In the Senate this morning, John Thune appeared for that
17:51
Speaker 1: stupid pro forma session in the Senate. He very quickly...
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Speaker 1: just asked for unanimous consent to pass that legislation again,
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Speaker 1: and it went through. No objection. Now it's up to
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Speaker 1: the House. Now Speaker Johnson says they're going to pass it.
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Speaker 1: So you've got President Trump saying pass it, and then
18:09
Speaker 1: Speaker Johnson saying we're going to pass it. Now, Speaker
18:12
Speaker 1: Johnson has been furious about this. He didn't want to
18:14
Speaker 1: pass the Senate bill in the first place, according to
18:16
Speaker 1: his own words on the subject. But he and John
18:19
Speaker 1: Thune put out a statement last night saying, We appreciate
18:22
Speaker 1: the president's determination to once and for all bring an
18:25
Speaker 1: end to the Democrat shutdown. In the coming days, Republicans
18:28
Speaker 1: in both the Senate and the House will be following
18:31
Speaker 1: through on the president's directive by fully funding the Department
18:34
Speaker 1: of Homeland Security on two parallel tracks, through appropriations and
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Speaker 1: through the reconciliation process. So, in summary... This goes back
18:44
Speaker 1: to that Senate bill. The president was able to force
18:48
Speaker 1: the Democrats to the table by giving TSA funding on
18:52
Speaker 1: an emergency basis. So Democrats cried uncle and allowed a
18:57
Speaker 1: massive Senate funding bill to go through. But it wasn't everything.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't everything. It was limited. And that's why the
19:05
Speaker 1: House was so upset about this. And now the president said,
19:09
Speaker 1: you know what? I'm just going to let all of
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Speaker 1: this funding go through by any means necessary. Let's get
19:13
Speaker 1: it through. Upside, there are no restrictions on ICE. There
19:17
Speaker 1: are no restrictions on ICE. There's no forcing them to
19:20
Speaker 1: reveal their identities to the insane left. There's none of
19:23
Speaker 1: this like, you know, oh, we need these judicial warrants
19:28
Speaker 1: to freeze up the immigration system. None of that crap.
19:33
Speaker 1: So the president's position to the Democrats is like, up yours.
19:36
Speaker 1: We're not giving you anything you want. We're going to
19:37
Speaker 1: fund all of this on our own, which they are.
19:40
Speaker 1: But of course, it hasn't stopped Chuck Schumer. from celebrating overnight.
19:43
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19:46
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19:49
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19:51
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19:56
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19:59
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20:02
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20:03
Speaker 3: Okay.
20:04
Speaker 1: But again, without any restrictions that Democrats were demanding, designed
20:08
Speaker 1: to imperil ICE agents, and designed to make our country
20:11
Speaker 1: less safe. You get none of that. So up yours,
20:14
Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer. You get none of that. All right, more
20:17
Speaker 1: in a moment. I want to talk to you about
20:18
Speaker 1: that big Supreme Court case yesterday, because the, uh, The
20:23
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20:26
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20:30
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20:34
Speaker 1: has a child? Does it confer American citizenship on that child?
20:38
Speaker 1: Give that family privileges in our country after having invaded it?
20:42
Speaker 1: Is that really what it's for? We've got the details
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Speaker 4: So.
22:27
Speaker 1: Supreme Court oral arguments yesterday were a maddening experience. Chat,
22:31
Speaker 1: did anybody listen to this? Did you guys listen to
22:34
Speaker 1: the oral arguments yesterday? As I told you, you know,
22:38
Speaker 1: if just the tercest possible summary, the 14th Amendment was
22:43
Speaker 1: passed to protect the former slaves of the United States,
22:47
Speaker 1: people who were held in bondage. It was passed to say,
22:50
Speaker 1: you're an American citizen by virtue of your birth here.
22:53
Speaker 1: Your children are American citizens by virtue of their birth here.
22:56
Speaker 1: You're American citizens. It was meant to protect previously enslaved
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Speaker 1: black Americans. That's it. but the left has distorted this
23:05
Speaker 1: beyond recognition. And now if some rich Chinese communist comes
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Speaker 1: to the country, has a baby, and then instantly brings
23:12
Speaker 1: that baby back to China, that baby's an American citizen?
23:14
Speaker 1: How does that make sense? How does that make sense
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Speaker 1: at all? How does it make sense that any illegal
23:19
Speaker 1: alien across the planet can break their way into our country,
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Speaker 1: have a child, and now they have an American citizen
23:24
Speaker 1: and access to welfare? How does that make sense?
23:27
Speaker 3: It doesn't.
23:28
Speaker 1: It doesn't. Yet in the United States Supreme Court yesterday,
23:31
Speaker 1: It was a very frustrating experience to listen to these Supremes,
23:36
Speaker 1: the justices, talk about this. And I want to start
23:38
Speaker 1: with the Chief Justice, John Roberts. Listen to him yesterday.
23:41
Speaker 1: He seemed very confused about why illegals should be excluded
23:45
Speaker 1: from American citizenship.
23:46
Speaker 3: Listen.
23:47
Speaker 4: Well, starting with that theory, you obviously put a lot
23:51
Speaker 4: of weight on subject to the jurisdiction thereof. But the
23:54
Speaker 4: examples you give to support that strike me as very quirky.
23:58
Speaker 4: You know, children of ambassadors children of enemies during a
24:03
Speaker 4: hostile invasion, children on warships, and then you expand it
24:07
Speaker 4: to the whole class of illegal aliens are here in
24:12
Speaker 4: the country. I'm not quite sure how you can get
24:15
Speaker 4: to that big group from such tiny and sort of
24:18
Speaker 4: idiosyncratic examples.
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Speaker 5: There are those sort of narrow exceptions for ambassador of
24:23
Speaker 5: foreign public ships. Tribal Indians is an enormous one that
24:26
Speaker 5: they were very focused on in the debates as well.
24:28
Speaker 5: But what I do is I invite the court to
24:29
Speaker 5: look at the intervening step. which is the enactment of
24:32
Speaker 5: the Civil Rights Act of 1866. And there they didn't
24:35
Speaker 5: say subject to the jurisdiction thereof. There it says not
24:38
Speaker 5: subject to any foreign power. Now, if you go back
24:41
Speaker 5: to Blackstone in Calvin's case, they say it does not
24:44
Speaker 5: matter if you are subject to any foreign power. If
24:46
Speaker 5: you are born in the king's domains, you have this
24:48
Speaker 5: indefeasible duty of allegiance to the king at any time.
24:52
Speaker 5: So there's a clear repudiation in the Civil Rights Act.
24:55
Speaker 5: The Civil Rights Act is this breakwater which makes it very,
24:57
Speaker 5: very clear That they are not thinking about allegiance in
25:00
Speaker 5: the terms of like the British common law. They've adopted
25:02
Speaker 5: the Republican conception of allegiance. So it's from not subject
25:06
Speaker 5: to any foreign power. And then the debates just a
25:08
Speaker 5: couple months later make it very clear that they're recodifying
25:11
Speaker 5: the same conception. They were dissatisfied with the potential ambiguity
25:14
Speaker 5: in the phrase Indians not tax. And they adopted subject
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Speaker 5: to the jurisdiction thereof.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's good.
25:20
Speaker 6: Perfect.
25:20
Speaker 1: Thank you. So let me just take you back to
25:23
Speaker 1: what John Roberts started with there. He goes, well, wait
25:25
Speaker 1: a second. You know, they didn't give citizenship to some
25:29
Speaker 1: narrow categories, he claimed, like the children of foreign diplomats.
25:33
Speaker 1: If a foreign ambassador comes to the United States and
25:35
Speaker 1: has a baby here, they weren't entitled to that child
25:38
Speaker 1: becoming an American citizen. But those are very narrow exceptions,
25:41
Speaker 1: he said. So what about a large group like illegal aliens?
25:44
Speaker 1: How could something that applies to a small group of
25:46
Speaker 1: people apply to a large group of people?
25:49
Speaker 4: What?
25:50
Speaker 1: What kind of argument is that? So if enough people
25:53
Speaker 1: break our laws, they get to do it? Is that
25:56
Speaker 1: really the argument that you're mounting, John Roberts? And John Sauer,
26:02
Speaker 1: who is the Solicitor General of the United States, he's
26:05
Speaker 1: the guy with the scratchy voice you heard just arguing
26:08
Speaker 1: the case, he points out something super relevant, which is
26:12
Speaker 1: that Back in the mid-1800s, when this whole debate was
26:16
Speaker 1: going on between the 14th Amendment and the 1866 Civil
26:19
Speaker 1: Rights Act, he said this was fundamentally about people who
26:25
Speaker 1: were subject to foreign powers, who were the subjects of
26:28
Speaker 1: foreign powers. The 14th Amendment is trying to preclude them
26:32
Speaker 1: from citizenship. And I just, I mean, it boggles my
26:36
Speaker 1: mind that John Roberts would sit there and act confused
26:39
Speaker 1: about this. Why should illegals be excluded? There's just so
26:42
Speaker 1: many of them. We can't possibly exclude huge numbers of
26:45
Speaker 1: people from American citizenship. Yes, we should, actually. These are
26:50
Speaker 1: precisely the people who should not be entitled to American citizenship. Meanwhile,
26:54
Speaker 1: on the other end of the debate was the American
26:57
Speaker 1: Civil Liberties Union attorney, the ACLU. Now, it's crazy to
27:03
Speaker 1: even hear those words said out loud because I thought
27:06
Speaker 1: you were for American civil liberties. Now you're fighting for illegals? Yeah,
27:11
Speaker 1: that's why they call themselves the ACLU. Listen to the
27:14
Speaker 1: ACLU attorney yesterday saying, just because you have foreign military obligations,
27:20
Speaker 1: just because you owe your allegiance to Iran, doesn't mean
27:23
Speaker 1: you should be stopped from becoming an American citizen.
27:25
Speaker 3: Watch.
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Speaker 6: Not subject to any foreign power is pretty straightforward. So
27:32
Speaker 6: let me give you these examples. A boy is born
27:37
Speaker 6: here to an Iranian father who has entered the country illegally,
27:41
Speaker 6: that boy is automatically an Iranian national at birth. And
27:45
Speaker 6: he has a duty to provide military service to the
27:50
Speaker 6: Iranian government. Is he not subject to any foreign power?
27:55
Speaker 7: Not within the meaning of the 1866 Act, Justice Alito.
27:59
Speaker 7: And that's clear from Wong Kim Ark, and it's clear
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Speaker 7: from the debates. What the framers meant by the phrase
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Speaker 7: not subject to any foreign power was referring to the
28:07
Speaker 7: ambassador exception. If it meant what the government contends, basically
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Speaker 7: not a subject of any foreign power, that another country
28:15
Speaker 7: considers you a U.S. citizen, then lawful permanent residence, all
28:21
Speaker 7: foreign nationals.
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Speaker 6: The ordinary public meaning of that would certainly encompass.
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Speaker 3: That boy, would it not?
28:30
Speaker 7: Justice Alito, if you think that the language of the
28:32
Speaker 7: 1866 Act was ambiguous, as Wong Kim Ark says... The
28:36
Speaker 7: shift to the language of the 14th Amendment, which is
28:38
Speaker 7: the operative text, certainly clears up any ambiguity.
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Speaker 6: What I said about a boy born to an Iranian
28:46
Speaker 6: father is true of children born here to parents who
28:51
Speaker 6: are nationals of other countries. If I'm correct, it's true
28:55
Speaker 6: to a child who's born here to Russian parents. It's
28:59
Speaker 6: true to a child who's born here to Mexican parents.
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Speaker 6: They're automatically immigrants. citizens or nationals of those countries and
29:06
Speaker 6: have a duty of military service. It sure seems like
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Speaker 6: that's a that makes them subject to a foreign power.
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Speaker 1: Yes, it does.
29:16
Speaker 3: Perfect. That would have meant.
29:17
Speaker 8: All right.
29:17
Speaker 1: So basically, the ACLU attorney is trying to say, well,
29:19
Speaker 1: no big deal. It's no big deal that we have
29:21
Speaker 1: children born in the United States who have military obligations
29:25
Speaker 1: to foreign countries. Actually, it's a massive deal. It's a
29:29
Speaker 1: massive deal. And in no way should you become an
29:32
Speaker 1: American citizen on that basis. That's preposterous. In fact, to
29:36
Speaker 1: be really clear, the children of legal immigrants should not
29:39
Speaker 1: become American citizens in the United States. That wasn't the
29:42
Speaker 1: subject of the debate yesterday. But just because you're here
29:45
Speaker 1: on some sort of temporary legal basis doesn't mean you
29:48
Speaker 1: should be entitled to an American citizen as a child.
29:51
Speaker 1: That's crazy to me. That's crazy. American citizenship should be
29:55
Speaker 1: for the children of American citizens. If you want a
29:59
Speaker 1: child to become an American citizen, then go through the
30:01
Speaker 1: process of becoming a naturalized American citizen. If you really
30:05
Speaker 1: want to look after the well-being of this country, then
30:09
Speaker 1: that's the way you would do it. But yesterday, the
30:11
Speaker 1: debate revolved pretty simply around whether or not the children
30:14
Speaker 1: of illegal immigrants can be considered American citizens. And one
30:18
Speaker 1: of the most frustrating things was how difficult it was
30:21
Speaker 1: to make the easiest possible case on the planet to
30:24
Speaker 1: that Supreme Court yesterday. I got one more for you,
30:27
Speaker 1: and then I want to get to a great guest
30:28
Speaker 1: on the subject. Katonji Brown Jackson yesterday was a disaster,
30:35
Speaker 1: as usual. And she suggested yesterday that breaking a nation's
30:39
Speaker 1: laws is how you establish allegiance. I'm sorry.
30:44
Speaker 3: What?
30:45
Speaker 1: Listen to KBJ yesterday. Cut three.
30:50
Speaker 8: I was thinking about this, and I think there are
30:54
Speaker 8: various sources that say this. that you can have, you
30:57
Speaker 8: obviously have permanent allegiance based on being born in whatever
31:02
Speaker 8: country you're from. That's what everybody recognizes. But you also
31:06
Speaker 8: have local allegiance when you are on the soil of
31:10
Speaker 8: this other sovereign. And I was thinking, I, a US citizen,
31:16
Speaker 8: am visiting Japan, and what it means is that if
31:20
Speaker 8: I steal someone's wallet in Japan, the Japanese authorities can
31:26
Speaker 8: arrest me and prosecute me. It's allegiance, meaning can they
31:32
Speaker 8: control you as a matter of law? I can also
31:35
Speaker 8: rely on them if my wallet is stolen to, you know,
31:39
Speaker 8: under Japanese law, go and prosecute the person who has
31:43
Speaker 8: stolen it. So there's this relationship based on, even though
31:46
Speaker 8: I'm a temporary traveler, I'm just on vacation in Japan,
31:50
Speaker 8: I'm still locally owing allegiance in that.
31:56
Speaker 1: Oh, my God. I can't even I can't even believe
31:58
Speaker 1: how brain dead this is. So by by stealing a wallet,
32:02
Speaker 1: she's demonstrating her allegiance to Japan. Yeah, that makes a
32:05
Speaker 1: lot of sense. That's left wing thinking if I've ever
32:07
Speaker 1: heard it. Remember the George Floyd riots? All those people
32:10
Speaker 1: were just demonstrating their allegiance to America when they were
32:12
Speaker 1: burning down cities and killing people and and doing billions
32:16
Speaker 1: of dollars in destruction. It was just a gigantic pledge
32:19
Speaker 1: of allegiance. We just misunderstood it at the time. Those
32:22
Speaker 1: people actually loved the country. They were saying they were
32:25
Speaker 1: pledging their allegiance. That's because that's how you do it.
32:28
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. When you pledge allegiance, the way you
32:31
Speaker 1: do it is you have to commit a crime. What
32:33
Speaker 1: is she in a gang? There's a gang initiation to
32:36
Speaker 1: join a country. That's like the craziest thing I've ever heard.
32:40
Speaker 1: And it was just in the last 24 hours. Thank you,
32:42
Speaker 1: Katonji Brown Jackson, not a biologist and shouldn't be a
32:46
Speaker 1: Supreme Court justice either.
32:47
Speaker 3: All right.
32:47
Speaker 1: In a moment, I'm going to talk to a great guest.
32:49
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32:52
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32:54
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35:14
Speaker 9: Thanks so much for having me, Vince. I probably could
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Speaker 9: have used some of that blackout coffee while I was
35:18
Speaker 9: listening to this oral argument yesterday.
35:20
Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy? So, you know, I actually, I had
35:23
Speaker 1: higher hopes yesterday for the oral arguments. I thought that
35:26
Speaker 1: we'd have more people on the side of sanity here,
35:29
Speaker 1: which is that, no, of course, the people who drafted
35:32
Speaker 1: the 14th Amendment did not intend for every illegal alien
35:35
Speaker 1: to have an American citizen child in our country. What
35:37
Speaker 1: did you think of the oral arguments yesterday?
35:40
Speaker 9: I actually, it was very interesting. It was more or
35:44
Speaker 9: less what I expected it to be. There was tough
35:47
Speaker 9: questioning of both John Sauer, who represented the Trump administration,
35:51
Speaker 9: and Cecilia Wang, who represented the ACLU in that. But
35:55
Speaker 9: the one thing that I was sort of surprised about
35:58
Speaker 9: was Sauer and the Department of Justice had submitted a
36:02
Speaker 9: number of briefs that were actually well thought out, very
36:05
Speaker 9: sophisticated briefs. They probably, on the briefs, they probably had
36:09
Speaker 9: the better side of the argument. But many of the justices,
36:13
Speaker 9: including Chief Justice John Roberts, didn't really seem to read
36:16
Speaker 9: very deeply into the briefs or weren't buying what Sauer
36:20
Speaker 9: was selling. Because at one point, Roberts referred to some
36:23
Speaker 9: of the references that Sauer made as quirky. But I mean,
36:26
Speaker 9: we're talking about a law that was passed in 1868.
36:29
Speaker 9: We're talking about a Supreme Court decision that was issued
36:32
Speaker 9: in 1898. based upon English feudal law. So, I mean,
36:37
Speaker 9: you're definitely going to be, it's a pretty heady argument. And,
36:42
Speaker 9: you know, it points, they did get very deeply into it. So,
36:46
Speaker 9: you know, intellectually, it was very stimulating, except for Ketanji
36:49
Speaker 9: Brown Jackson. But with respect to the other arguments, I
36:53
Speaker 9: thought that they were very thoughtful. I think we're going
36:55
Speaker 9: to have the justices, the clerks, they're going to pour
36:58
Speaker 9: over those briefs. And I actually think the government may
37:01
Speaker 9: have a slightly better chance than most people think.
37:03
Speaker 1: So you actually think that John Sauer did a decent
37:05
Speaker 1: job yesterday. I mean, he did. I mean, he's I've
37:08
Speaker 1: always been impressed by his his arguments before the court.
37:11
Speaker 1: And generally, I was yesterday. There was a moment where
37:13
Speaker 1: I think Brett Kavanaugh had asked him why it's relevant
37:17
Speaker 1: that so many other countries don't handle immigration the same
37:20
Speaker 1: way we do. He's like, why? Why are you even
37:22
Speaker 1: bringing up the way other countries handle this? Because I'm
37:24
Speaker 1: only interested really in American law. and the American Constitution
37:28
Speaker 1: and American history. And I thought the answer that John
37:31
Speaker 1: Sauer did not produce to that question would be, well,
37:34
Speaker 1: it's relevant to know how other countries handled this historically,
37:38
Speaker 1: because that would get into the minds of the people
37:40
Speaker 1: who drafted the 14th Amendment, wouldn't it?
37:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, Vince.
37:43
Speaker 9: In fact, it makes me think that you've actually read
37:46
Speaker 9: through John Sauer's brief, because he covers that very well.
37:50
Speaker 9: And he, you know, explains that at the time that
37:53
Speaker 9: the 14th Amendment was passed and at the time that
37:56
Speaker 9: the Constitution itself was ratified, that the founders had cast
38:01
Speaker 9: off those, you know, feudalistic English principles that governed nationality
38:07
Speaker 9: in Britain and had actually surveyed the world to see
38:11
Speaker 9: what they did, how they treated nationality so that we
38:14
Speaker 9: could create a very unique American citizenship. If you think
38:17
Speaker 9: about it, Vince, The biggest difference between the new United
38:22
Speaker 9: States and the old British Empire was the fact that
38:25
Speaker 9: we didn't have a king. In the United States, the
38:28
Speaker 9: people were sovereign. And therefore, ideas that you are the
38:33
Speaker 9: liege to the king when born there and thus you
38:36
Speaker 9: gain nationality is a poor fit. And that's really the
38:40
Speaker 9: point that the Justice Department was making in its briefs.
38:43
Speaker 9: But yeah, I was surprised that Sauer didn't respond in
38:46
Speaker 9: that manner because that is actually the point that the
38:49
Speaker 9: government made in its briefing.
38:51
Speaker 1: Just as a matter of common sense, how could any
38:56
Speaker 1: person be for allowing illegals to jump across our border
39:00
Speaker 1: and have an American citizen child? How could that be?
39:03
Speaker 1: I looked, and you would know the data much better
39:05
Speaker 1: than me, Art, but I looked at the data this
39:09
Speaker 1: week so I could reflect on this, and I was like,
39:11
Speaker 1: stunned by the number of illegal alien babies who are
39:14
Speaker 1: born in the United States each year. We're talking around 300,000,
39:18
Speaker 1: according to Pew Research data back in 2023. That's with
39:22
Speaker 1: about three and a half million births. In other words,
39:24
Speaker 1: there's like eight or nine percent of all U.S. births
39:28
Speaker 1: each year are two illegal aliens in our country. This
39:32
Speaker 1: is a problem of epic proportions.
39:35
Speaker 9: Yeah, it absolutely is. And, you know, here's sort of
39:38
Speaker 9: the good and the bad that comes along with having
39:41
Speaker 9: six conservative Supreme Court justices. They really don't care about
39:46
Speaker 9: the practicality of the thing. They care about the intents
39:49
Speaker 9: of the framers, the founders, the ratifiers of the 14th Amendment.
39:55
Speaker 9: Keep in mind, this is the same Supreme Court that
39:58
Speaker 9: in McGirt versus Oklahoma found that 42% of a state
40:02
Speaker 9: in the middle of the United States was actually Indian territory,
40:06
Speaker 9: and they did that in 2020. So the practicalities of
40:09
Speaker 9: the thing don't really weigh that heavily in, except to
40:12
Speaker 9: the degree that that there was a line of questioning
40:15
Speaker 9: about how the interpretation of the 14th Amendment would change
40:20
Speaker 9: given technology and modern changes. People don't come on wooden ships.
40:25
Speaker 9: They don't come on steamships. They could fly directly into
40:29
Speaker 9: the United States and give birth. In fact, we've seen
40:31
Speaker 9: birth tourism rings that were cracked that had made millions
40:35
Speaker 9: of dollars in California and Orange County and around Irvine.
40:39
Speaker 9: So they actually did explore that issue. But I think
40:44
Speaker 9: they're only going to consider the practicalities of the thing
40:47
Speaker 9: in terms of, you know, how it would, you know,
40:52
Speaker 9: how if the framers had known about these modern technologies, including,
40:56
Speaker 9: you know, in vitro fertilization, you know, how they would
40:59
Speaker 9: have applied the key second clause in Section 1 of
41:03
Speaker 9: the 14th Amendment, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.
41:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, doesn't the Constitution also include a provision
41:09
Speaker 1: that we can thwart invasion? You know, that's like, We
41:14
Speaker 1: we're being invaded right now. And then everyone acts like
41:16
Speaker 1: that's totally normal. It's you know, I I was frustrated
41:19
Speaker 1: by John Roberts's questioning when he suggested he's like, well, obviously,
41:24
Speaker 1: the 14th Amendment, as you point out, John Sauer precludes
41:28
Speaker 1: a couple of people from having U.S. citizen children like,
41:30
Speaker 1: you know, foreign diplomats can't have. American kids if they're
41:34
Speaker 1: born on U.S.
41:34
Speaker 8: Soil.
41:35
Speaker 1: But beyond that, like, how do you stress that out
41:37
Speaker 1: to illegal aliens? There's just so many of them. And
41:40
Speaker 1: I was like, well, just because there's huge numbers doesn't
41:43
Speaker 1: mean the law doesn't apply, does it?
41:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, no.
41:45
Speaker 9: And, you know, it's actually a very interesting point, Vince,
41:48
Speaker 9: because at one juncture, I think it was Justice Sotomayor who,
41:52
Speaker 9: you know, or actually it was Justice Jackson, who suggested
41:56
Speaker 9: that if the Trump executive order were to take effect,
42:00
Speaker 9: that pregnant women would have to be deposed by their
42:03
Speaker 9: doctors to determine what their status was in the United States. Now,
42:08
Speaker 9: this represents a fundamental misunderstanding of what happens at maternity hospitals,
42:13
Speaker 9: and I have a very close relative who is an obstetrician.
42:18
Speaker 9: The hospital itself, the doctor, the nurses in the delivery suite,
42:22
Speaker 9: the midwives, They don't make the determination of who is
42:25
Speaker 9: a citizen or who isn't. And if you look at
42:27
Speaker 9: a birth record from a hospital, all that it does
42:29
Speaker 9: is record the name of the parents, the size and
42:33
Speaker 9: weight of the baby, you know, the baby's name, if known.
42:36
Speaker 9: They'll occasionally capture APGAR scores on those things, but they
42:39
Speaker 9: don't say anything about citizenship.
42:41
Speaker 1: And they assign a gender at birth, just to be clear, too.
42:44
Speaker 1: That's when they assign your gender at that moment.
42:47
Speaker 9: I knew you were going to go for that one, too, Vince,
42:50
Speaker 9: but we'll pass over that one for a second. But yeah,
42:54
Speaker 9: you know, that document only matters when it comes time
42:57
Speaker 9: for the child to receive some sort of government benefit,
42:59
Speaker 9: to get a Social Security card, to get a passport,
43:02
Speaker 9: to apply. And you and I both know how common
43:04
Speaker 9: this is when the parents go to apply for food
43:07
Speaker 9: stamps for that child. If you look at the amicus
43:10
Speaker 9: brief that was filed by the state of Tennessee, they
43:12
Speaker 9: actually talk about the billions of dollars that states incur
43:16
Speaker 9: providing means-tested public benefits, WIC, Medicaid, food stamps. to all
43:23
Speaker 9: of those children who were born to illegal aliens in
43:26
Speaker 9: the United States. So again, I think that if the
43:28
Speaker 9: framers had known that, and we can, the Supreme Court's
43:31
Speaker 9: gonna try and suss out what the framers would have
43:34
Speaker 9: thought if they had known that we would have this
43:36
Speaker 9: welfare state, how they would have applied it, which is
43:39
Speaker 9: why I think that the government actually has a slightly
43:42
Speaker 9: better chance than most people do in this case.
43:45
Speaker 1: Okay, all right. Well, I mean, I'm very happy to
43:47
Speaker 1: hear a little bit of optimism on that subject, because
43:50
Speaker 1: I was very pessimistic coming out of that yesterday. But also,
43:54
Speaker 1: can you explain how– like kind of what having a U.S.
43:58
Speaker 1: citizen child does for an illegal alien parent? So like
44:02
Speaker 1: if you're in the country illegally and all of a
44:04
Speaker 1: sudden you have a kid that's considered an American citizen,
44:07
Speaker 1: what does that give you access to? And what does
44:10
Speaker 1: your future look like now that a U.S. citizen is
44:13
Speaker 1: a part of your life?
44:14
Speaker 9: Well, you know, that's a great question. And, you know,
44:18
Speaker 9: we could probably talk for an hour about all of
44:20
Speaker 9: those benefits. But here's really the key one. As soon
44:23
Speaker 9: as you have a United States citizen child, that child
44:26
Speaker 9: is eligible for all those means tested public benefits. I
44:30
Speaker 9: just talked about Medicaid food stamps. One of the things
44:33
Speaker 9: that the Center for Immigration Studies has determined is that,
44:37
Speaker 9: you know, aliens in the United States actually use welfare
44:40
Speaker 9: benefits at a higher rate than the native born, notwithstanding
44:45
Speaker 9: the fact that back in 1996, Congress attempted to strip aliens,
44:49
Speaker 9: even green card holders, of their ability to get means
44:52
Speaker 9: tested public benefits because there is a public charge test
44:56
Speaker 9: in the Immigration and Nationality Act. So, you know, the most,
45:00
Speaker 9: you know, straightforward one is public benefits. But as soon
45:04
Speaker 9: as that child turns 21, the child can then petition
45:07
Speaker 9: for the parent to get a green card to come here.
45:11
Speaker 9: you know, to reside here and be placed on a
45:13
Speaker 9: path to citizenship.
45:14
Speaker 1: But more- Wait, even if they're here, sorry, even if
45:17
Speaker 1: they're here illegally already, if they're present in the country illegally,
45:20
Speaker 1: the U.S. citizens can request it?
45:23
Speaker 9: They would have to go abroad, pick up the visa
45:25
Speaker 9: and come back in and they'd have to get a
45:27
Speaker 9: waiver of their unlawful presence. But the Biden administration was
45:30
Speaker 9: giving those waivers away like they were bazooka joke comics in,
45:36
Speaker 9: you know, a pack of gum.
45:37
Speaker 1: So, you know- I'm sorry, okay, just, can we dwell
45:40
Speaker 1: on this for a second? So what you just described
45:42
Speaker 1: is amnesty at scale. If there's 300,000 U.S. citizen children
45:47
Speaker 1: being born in the United States each year, and then
45:49
Speaker 1: when they come of age, the Biden administration was granting
45:53
Speaker 1: pathways to citizenship to all of their parents. Is that,
45:56
Speaker 1: I mean, was this a pretty big amnesty that they
45:59
Speaker 1: handed out?
46:00
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, and it is an amnesty under color
46:02
Speaker 9: of law without congressional approval. But yeah, in essence, Vince,
46:07
Speaker 9: that is what they were doing. But there's even, you know,
46:09
Speaker 9: one step beyond that. If you are illegally present in
46:13
Speaker 9: the United States and you have a child, you can actually,
46:17
Speaker 9: and you get placed into removal proceedings, you can seek
46:21
Speaker 9: a form of relief called cancellation for certain non-permanent residents.
46:25
Speaker 9: We call it 42B cancellation because it's the form E
46:29
Speaker 9: or 42B that people use to apply for that. And
46:33
Speaker 9: as soon as you file that application, Your case is
46:37
Speaker 9: put on hold until the judge can adjudicate whether your
46:41
Speaker 9: removal from the United States would result in exceptional and
46:44
Speaker 9: extremely unusual hardship to the child. That itself is also
46:49
Speaker 9: a de facto form of amnesty because it allows the
46:53
Speaker 9: parent to remain in the United States for a year,
46:56
Speaker 9: five years, ten years, until the court can get around
46:58
Speaker 9: to adjudicating those cases. They're not high priorities. And for
47:02
Speaker 9: that reason, it basically buys you time to remain in
47:05
Speaker 9: the United States unlawfully.
47:06
Speaker 1: Which is where we derive the term anchor baby from.
47:09
Speaker 1: All of a sudden now, you've bound yourself to the
47:11
Speaker 1: country by virtue of the American citizen child that you've
47:15
Speaker 1: been conferred.
47:16
Speaker 3: Yes.
47:17
Speaker 9: And, you know, that child is the first link in
47:20
Speaker 9: chain migration to not only legalize the parent, and then
47:24
Speaker 9: once the parent gets citizenship, the parent can then bring
47:27
Speaker 9: the parent's brother and sister, mother and father. to the
47:30
Speaker 9: United States, which is why we talk about the, you know,
47:33
Speaker 9: chain migration multipliers, you know, that exist in the immigration law.
47:38
Speaker 9: And again, the first link is that baby.
47:43
Speaker 1: It is extraordinary, the scale of this problem. And we
47:47
Speaker 1: only know some of the contours of it, thanks to
47:49
Speaker 1: your great work. Art, thank you very much. Andrew Arthur
47:52
Speaker 1: of the Center for Immigration Studies. Really appreciate you being
47:54
Speaker 1: with me today, sir.
47:55
Speaker 9: Thanks so much for having me, Vince.
47:57
Speaker 1: Always good to chat. There he is, Andrew Arthur. Our
48:00
Speaker 1: thanks to him. Yeah, so look, this is a massive problem.
48:05
Speaker 1: And one of the things that stands out to me
48:06
Speaker 1: there is just the fact that these parents are being
48:08
Speaker 1: given pathways to citizenship. So because they immigrated illegally, and
48:14
Speaker 1: so the way that they are able to stay here
48:17
Speaker 1: and then become citizens is they have babies in the
48:20
Speaker 1: United States. You hear about that all over the place?
48:23
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Thank you to Andrew Arthur for
48:26
Speaker 1: explaining that. We've got massive problems to fix here. Massive problems.
48:31
Speaker 1: You know, I had Dan Bongino, the great Dan Bongino,
48:35
Speaker 1: on my radio program yesterday. We're doing crossover episodes each week.
48:40
Speaker 1: I'll be on his podcast next week, Wednesday. And we
48:44
Speaker 1: were chatting about this problem and about the oral arguments yesterday.
48:48
Speaker 1: And I brought up the fact that What you're looking
48:53
Speaker 1: at is the left, the reason the left engages in
48:56
Speaker 1: this system, the reason they love this corrupt system, and
48:59
Speaker 1: the reason they're handing out citizenship like candy is because
49:03
Speaker 1: the current American citizenry doesn't like the left. We don't
49:09
Speaker 1: support Democrats. We don't vote for them. If we had
49:13
Speaker 1: fair elections, they'd spend all their time in the political wilderness.
49:16
Speaker 1: If we had secure borders and fair elections, the Democrat
49:19
Speaker 1: president would be non-existent. And yet they continue to exist.
49:24
Speaker 1: Why is that? Because we have fraudulent elections. We have
49:29
Speaker 1: a fraudulent media in many cases that lie to the
49:32
Speaker 1: American public about what the Democrats are up to and
49:35
Speaker 1: why people should support them. And then fundamentally, they're also
49:39
Speaker 1: importing people by the millions in order to establish ill-gotten
49:44
Speaker 1: political power. And that manifests itself in a million different
49:47
Speaker 1: ways to include the electoral college and congressional seats that
49:51
Speaker 1: they don't deserve and the United States census numbers that
49:54
Speaker 1: don't distinguish between American citizens and illegal aliens, all of
49:57
Speaker 1: those things. But the other piece of this that is
50:01
Speaker 1: probably not appreciated enough in our debates is the extent
50:05
Speaker 1: to which that when these illegal alien parents are having children,
50:08
Speaker 1: if they're conferred American citizenship, the Democrats believe that in
50:12
Speaker 1: the long run, that that's going to be to their benefit,
50:14
Speaker 1: that this is a new class of pro-Democrat voter coming
50:19
Speaker 1: up in the system. Now, it may not be true
50:21
Speaker 1: in every case. It's going to be kids who are
50:23
Speaker 1: born to illegal aliens who might vote for Republicans going
50:26
Speaker 1: into the future. Certainly, Democrats had two-dimensional views of all
50:30
Speaker 1: Hispanics that turned out to be completely wrong. But the
50:34
Speaker 1: game that they're attempting to play is the long-term replacement
50:38
Speaker 1: of American voters. They don't like the American voters. They're
50:42
Speaker 1: not deriving power from American voters. So let's import a
50:44
Speaker 1: new class of voters and go for broke there. Let's
50:47
Speaker 1: hope it works. Now, again, who knows if it'll actually
50:50
Speaker 1: work for them in the future, but that's clearly what
50:53
Speaker 1: they're attempting to do. It's not my supposition. It's not
50:57
Speaker 1: my theory. It's their plan. They've written books on the subject.
51:01
Speaker 1: Demographics are destiny. In fact, Dan and I were talking
51:04
Speaker 1: at some length about this yesterday. But as we were
51:07
Speaker 1: talking about that particular phrase and the way the left
51:09
Speaker 1: has wielded it and their attempts to truly displace the
51:13
Speaker 1: current crop of American voters, I had this realization. It
51:17
Speaker 1: reminded me a lot of The Matrix.
51:19
Speaker 9: Do you.
51:26
Speaker 1: Which is like, I don't know, is there anybody who
51:27
Speaker 1: hasn't seen it? In the Matrix, everybody's living inside of
51:33
Speaker 1: this world where the computers control everything. And they don't
51:37
Speaker 1: know it. They're ignorant. Fundamentally, humans are ignorant of this.
51:40
Speaker 1: So everything around you is fake. And in real life,
51:43
Speaker 1: you're plugged into the Matrix and you're being manipulated. In fact,
51:47
Speaker 1: your body's being used for energy, for the robots. You're
51:52
Speaker 1: powering the Matrix. the human bodies are. And in a way,
51:56
Speaker 1: I kind of look at this and say, this is
51:58
Speaker 1: kind of the same thing. Democrats are deriving power from
52:02
Speaker 1: millions of people that they are importing into the United
52:04
Speaker 1: States to confer them power. They're creating their own matrix.
52:08
Speaker 1: They're using illegal aliens as a power source for their party.
52:14
Speaker 1: And it's a total betrayal of humanity. It's a total
52:17
Speaker 1: betrayal of your liberty. It's a total betrayal of your sovereignty.
52:20
Speaker 1: And it's all done for cruel political power. And meanwhile,
52:24
Speaker 1: they're pulling the wool over everybody's eyes. They're generating the
52:27
Speaker 1: matrix before our very eyes. That's what the Democrats are
52:30
Speaker 1: up to. And it's pretty poisonous. It's a very destructive thing.
52:36
Speaker 1: And so I'm encouraged by Andrew Arthur's assessment that the
52:40
Speaker 1: court may come to their senses here and give us
52:43
Speaker 1: some sort of favorable ruling that rights this colossal wrong
52:47
Speaker 1: that we're seeing play out before us. I hope he's
52:49
Speaker 1: right about that. I worry that he's not, but I
52:52
Speaker 1: hope he's right, that the justices may do the right
52:55
Speaker 1: thing here. Because the truth is, the case that's before
52:59
Speaker 1: the court right now is an existential case for the
53:01
Speaker 1: United States of America. It's existential. If these Supreme Court
53:06
Speaker 1: justices don't recognize that the very future of our country
53:11
Speaker 1: hangs in the balance, then we may be done for. Now,
53:16
Speaker 1: will it be the end of the story if we
53:17
Speaker 1: get a ruling that says the status quo has to
53:20
Speaker 1: be maintained? Maybe, maybe not. Only time will tell. But
53:25
Speaker 1: understand what the challenges are going forward. If the court
53:28
Speaker 1: rules against us, if they continue to say, yeah, of
53:30
Speaker 1: course illegal aliens can pour into the country by the
53:32
Speaker 1: millions and have free American citizen children. Of course Chinese
53:35
Speaker 1: nationals can fly into California, have a baby, and have
53:38
Speaker 1: a free American citizen child. Of course Russian oligarchs can
53:42
Speaker 1: fly into Miami and have a baby and then flee
53:45
Speaker 1: and have an American citizen child. If they keep that
53:49
Speaker 1: system going, what options do we have to stop it? Well,
53:53
Speaker 1: we would have to pass a constitutional amendment, very likely.
53:57
Speaker 1: And what are the chances of that? What are the
54:00
Speaker 1: chances of passing a constitutional amendment in a world where
54:03
Speaker 1: we can't even get Congress to protect voter integrity? What
54:06
Speaker 1: are the chances of passing a constitutional amendment in a
54:09
Speaker 1: world where we can't even get them to fund one
54:13
Speaker 1: agency of the federal government with a single piece of legislation?
54:17
Speaker 1: What are the chances? As a practical matter, they're non-existent.
54:23
Speaker 1: When we talk about saving America, we mean it. We're
54:28
Speaker 1: in a fight for this country's future. And it's not
54:30
Speaker 1: merely for our territorial integrity, of course it is. It's
54:33
Speaker 1: for our kids. It's for anybody who has a belief
54:37
Speaker 1: that the future is owed to the people who were
54:39
Speaker 1: actually born here, actual American citizen children. You know, we
54:45
Speaker 1: are all the beneficiaries of our country's great history. We're
54:50
Speaker 1: the sons and daughters of people who made our country
54:52
Speaker 1: great in the first place. And now our obligation is
54:57
Speaker 1: to do what our ancestors did, leave this great country
55:01
Speaker 1: to the generations that come after us. That's what we're
55:04
Speaker 1: fighting for. And so in this moment with the United
55:06
Speaker 1: States Supreme Court considering this case, it is really important
55:10
Speaker 1: that once again, we turn to prayer, always turn to prayer.
55:13
Speaker 1: It has power, it has value. And we just keep
55:16
Speaker 1: reminding these justices, they consume media, they're out there. We
55:21
Speaker 1: just keep reminding these justices and anybody who has any
55:24
Speaker 1: hand in power in the United States, We have a
55:26
Speaker 1: great country and you should do everything possible to fight
55:29
Speaker 1: for it. President Trump believes that. President Trump was present
55:33
Speaker 1: yesterday at the Supreme Court. He went and sat for
55:35
Speaker 1: an hour and a half of the hearing in order
55:39
Speaker 1: to observe it. The left freaked out about it. They
55:41
Speaker 1: thought it was like the craziest thing. Oh, what is
55:43
Speaker 1: he doing? What is he doing? He's going because he cares.
55:47
Speaker 1: That's what he's doing. The left was accusing him of
55:50
Speaker 1: trying to intimidate the justices. That's so silly. How preposterous.
55:54
Speaker 1: Intimidate them how? By sitting there and listening dutifully as
55:58
Speaker 1: they're conducting one of the most important oral arguments that's
56:02
Speaker 1: ever happened in our country? Now, the president was present.
56:06
Speaker 1: He was there because he believes in this country and
56:09
Speaker 1: he wants to protect it. That's the fight he's waging.
56:13
Speaker 1: And if you want to find optimism in all of this,
56:14
Speaker 1: including if the Supreme Court rules against us here, find
56:17
Speaker 1: optimism in Trump's demeanor. President Trump never gives up the fight.
56:22
Speaker 1: The guy's always fighting. Against all odds, he returned to
56:26
Speaker 1: the presidency. If you can demonstrate 10% of the fight
56:31
Speaker 1: that President Trump has demonstrated for this country, we're going
56:35
Speaker 1: to have an amazing country going forward. We really will.
56:40
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56:43
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56:46
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56:50
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56:53
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56:55
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56:59
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57:04
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57:09
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Speaker 1: You can go watch Haley. She's phenomenal. Rumble.com slash Haley. Rumble.com
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Speaker 1: slash Haley. She's great. Look, Artemis is on screen. That's
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Speaker 1: really cool. Look at that thing blasting off. Holy cow. Rumble.com
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Speaker 1: slash Haley Noon. Haley with two Ys.
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Speaker 3: Why?
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Speaker 1: Because she's great. Like an Artemis rocket. Great to talk
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Speaker 1: to you today. Best audience anywhere. I'll be back with
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Speaker 1: you tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Megan Klingenberg, and I am super stoked
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Speaker 2: to be joined by Daryl Dike.
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Speaker 4: Arguably your most impressive quality cannot be measured.
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Speaker 1: You're a guy who is the definition of grit.
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Speaker 5: Injuries have ended plenty of careers, but instead you decided
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Speaker 5: yours would only be a chapter instead of the ending.
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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show, Daryl. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 6: That's a good intro right there.
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Speaker 4: That's good.
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Speaker 3: The U.S.
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