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Do the kids of Joburg actually know what a reverse call is? · Anele and the Club on 947

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  Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, wake up!
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  Speaker 1: Anele and the club on 947.
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  Speaker 3: So speaking of my child's school, if you just joined
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  Speaker 3: us and you missed us when we said hello earlier on,
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  Speaker 3: I was telling the team about how my child's school
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  Speaker 3: calls detention reflection. And you sit there with nothing, you
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  Speaker 3: do nothing, you're not allowed to read anything. You sit
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  Speaker 3: there for an hour and you reflect on your behavior, okay?
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Carrying on with my child's school. So I've got the
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  Speaker 1: school saved as Redem.
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  Speaker 5: Right. Right.
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  Speaker 1: And when it rings, I know.
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  Speaker 3: That Alaka, it's never the headmaster call. It's never anybody
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  Speaker 3: calling me to say anything official. It's always Alaka who
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  Speaker 3: found that poor teacher sitting at the desk there.
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  Speaker 1: Says, can I call my mom quickly, please?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, go to the front desk and call the mom.
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  Speaker 3: Now I'm sitting with you guys on Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sitting with you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Phone rings, Redem. Oh my word, what's going on? What's
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  Speaker 1: going on? Hi, hi, mommy. Hi, Alaka. How are you?
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  Speaker 1: I said, I'm fine.
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  Speaker 3: I'm worried about how you are because you don't call
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  Speaker 3: unless something is going down.
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  Speaker 1: What's going down? Uh, we have a bit of a problem.
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  Speaker 1: I said, and the problem is my pants tore.
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  Speaker 2: Ha ha ha.
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  Speaker 3: So now I'm like asking him describe them like where
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  Speaker 3: did they take cause I'm also trying to assess the
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  Speaker 3: damage like could he ride it out until the end
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  Speaker 3: of school is it like the side on the seam
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  Speaker 3: on the side cause sometimes maybe you just you wanna
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  Speaker 3: tell me cause you think you're gonna get into.
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  Speaker 1: Trouble with me cause your pants tore so.
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  Speaker 3: You're just like doing like a sense check type of
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  Speaker 3: thing and I'm just like wait.
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  Speaker 1: He's like by my crotch I said oh can people
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  Speaker 1: see everything everything Oh, wow. So I said, okay, fine.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to send new pants to you and then
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  Speaker 1: hang up.
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  Speaker 3: And then we got talking about how easy it is
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  Speaker 3: for kids to get hold of their parents these days.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's much easier than it was when we were
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  Speaker 5: growing up.
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  Speaker 3: Much. Dude, when we were growing up, if your pants tore,
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  Speaker 3: you'd have to do a reverse charge call.
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  Speaker 1: Well, either you had a phone card. Remember a phone card?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I remember coins, but yes, the phone card was
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  Speaker 3: the upgraded version.
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  Speaker 1: But then there was something called the reverse call.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Then we all looked at each other and we were like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my word, the reverse charge call. Do you remember that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I can remember this clearly. Clearly.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember it? Yes.
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  Speaker 6: And we, unfortunately, I mean, my parents suffered. Because right
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  Speaker 6: next to our house was one of those good old
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  Speaker 6: talc kids. They used to be talc on public phones.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yes.
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  Speaker 6: Where you could go, you'd make a call, right? But
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  Speaker 6: if you didn't have the little card with money on it,
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  Speaker 6: the whole reverse call process was something you could just
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  Speaker 6: do from the public phone. So every kid on our
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  Speaker 6: street could harass their parents.
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  Speaker 1: So here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to ask the kids this morning if they
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  Speaker 3: know what a reverse charge call is.
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  Speaker 2: Like, how do you think it worked?
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  Speaker 1: How do you think it worked?
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  Speaker 3: Now you've heard that if you didn't have money to
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  Speaker 3: call your parents or to make a call, you would
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  Speaker 3: do a reverse charge call.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, walk us through what you think the process was.
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  Speaker 1: Immediately. Moms, dads, give the phones to your kids right now.
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  Speaker 7: 011-8838-947.
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  Speaker 1: You know, send us a voice note 084. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: listen to that. You guys can't even send voice notes
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  Speaker 1: these days. Send us a voice note 084-0000-947. What do
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  Speaker 1: you think a reverse charge call is?
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  Speaker 5: How do you think it worked? What was the process
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  Speaker 5: that you had to follow to do that?
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  Speaker 3: We've started this little survey with the little ones.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Telkom's directory service. What do you think a
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  Speaker 1: reverse call is?
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  Speaker 3: Don't know.
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  Speaker 8: When someone calls you and you miss it and you
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  Speaker 8: call them back.
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  Speaker 1: So what would you say is a reverse call? A
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  Speaker 1: call backwards.
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  Speaker 7: Is when you call somebody and they don't answer and
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  Speaker 7: then they call you back because it's like an uno
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  Speaker 7: reverse type of thing.
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  Speaker 1: A reverse call is when the call is reversed.
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  Speaker 4: Like when you say hi, reversely is hi.
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  Speaker 3: Hi.
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  Speaker 6: Fair though oh no oh one one eighty eight thirty
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  Speaker 6: eight nine four seven the kids don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Do they no they don't know please moms dads sisters
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  Speaker 3: brothers give the phone to the kids and just say
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  Speaker 3: to them record them and then they answer to what
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  Speaker 3: do they think a reverse charge call is and then
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  Speaker 3: you you then you inform them what it is yeah
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  Speaker 3: please but first we want to hear what they think
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  Speaker 3: Send us a voice note as well.
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  Speaker 1: This should be fun. People still do reverse charge calls. How?
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  Speaker 1: I've received quite a few from my niece and I
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  Speaker 1: was shocked.
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  Speaker 7: It sounds like it's like you called someone and then
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  Speaker 7: somewhere in between you charged your phone.
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  Speaker 1: Morning, Anele and the club. Morning.
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  Speaker 4: I think a reverse charge call, like if you ran
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  Speaker 4: out of airtime, you pay, then you call the person.
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  Speaker 1: You're on the right track.
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  Speaker 3: You're on the right track. You're on the right track.
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  Speaker 3: But so far, no one has got it. Let's go
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  Speaker 3: to Nathan in Bertrams. Good morning, Nathan. Welcome to Auntie
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  Speaker 3: Anele in the club.
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  Speaker 8: Hi, Auntie Anele in the club.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, Nathan.
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  Speaker 6: How are you?
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  Speaker 3: I'm good, thanks.
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  Speaker 8: And you?
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  Speaker 1: We are so good.
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  Speaker 3: We're so glad you called us because you're going to
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  Speaker 3: tell us what a reverse charge call is, hey?
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  Speaker 8: Yes, Auntie Anele.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, tell us.
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  Speaker 8: A reverse charge call... It's like when you call someone
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  Speaker 8: in reverse.
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  Speaker 1: And how would that work?
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  Speaker 8: Like when you're speaking backwards.
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  Speaker 1: I see what you're saying.
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  Speaker 2: You're speaking backwards.
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  Speaker 8: On the call, it sounds like you're speaking.
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  Speaker 1: Sounds like it. Yes. Yes, he says. Okay, Nathan, I
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  Speaker 1: like your idea.
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  Speaker 3: It's not exactly how it used to work, but I
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  Speaker 3: like your idea nonetheless.
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  Speaker 6: Okay.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Nathan.
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  Speaker 8: Bye.
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  Speaker 5: Bye.
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  Speaker 3: Why did these kids think we were losing our minds?
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  Speaker 7: What is this?
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  Speaker 5: The reverse charge one is, I love that one voice
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  Speaker 5: note where they say, it's when you charge your phone
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  Speaker 5: in between.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Like an electric vehicle of sorts.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: It's still out there, kids.
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  Speaker 3: Not a single child in the city has gotten it correct.
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  Speaker 1: Because you're never going to believe it. Yeah, you can't
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  Speaker 1: believe it.
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  Speaker 3: When we finally tell you, they're going to be like, well,
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  Speaker 3: that's silly.
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  Speaker 7: 011-8838-947.
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  Speaker 3: Parents, we're asking the little ones this morning, what do
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  Speaker 3: they think a reverse charge call is?
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  Speaker 2: Just hand them the phone, let them send us a
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  Speaker 2: voice note, give us a call.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know anyone who was born... 1995.
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  Speaker 2: Probably.
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  Speaker 1: And when were you born, Tebegile? 92, so 95 would know. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: 95 is.
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  Speaker 3: I think the cutoff might be late 90s.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe 98.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, when last did you do a reverse
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  Speaker 2: charge call?
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  Speaker 3: Well, my little sister was born in 1994 and she's
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  Speaker 3: never done a reverse charge call.
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  Speaker 6: Really?
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's possible, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's possible. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't know the struggle?
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  Speaker 1: No, not at all. They don't.
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  Speaker 6: 011-8838-947.
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  Speaker 3: Send us a voice number 084-00-00947. Frank has brought a
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  Speaker 3: new question into the fold now. When last did you
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  Speaker 3: do a reverse charge call? And then in the same mix,
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  Speaker 3: we're asking the kids. Do you know what a reverse
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  Speaker 3: charge call is?
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  Speaker 1: What do you think a reverse call is?
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  Speaker 4: So I think a reverse call is when you call
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  Speaker 4: someone by mistake. Then, like in WhatsApp, there's this type
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  Speaker 4: of button where you press, then it says reverse.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a two-year-old, I don't even know what's a reverse call.
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  Speaker 7: I'm Kotsato, and I think that a reverse charge call
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  Speaker 7: is when you call someone and they don't answer, but
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  Speaker 7: when you call them back, it charges the other person.
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  Speaker 1: I think a reverse call.
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  Speaker 4: is when you call somewhere, someone, and then it goes
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  Speaker 4: to the other person and it reverses back to them.
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  Speaker 3: Even I'm getting confused now. I don't even think I
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  Speaker 3: remember what a reverse charge call is anymore with all
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  Speaker 3: of these definitions from you guys. Thank you for trying,
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  Speaker 3: little ones. Let's go to Josh and Ayush. Josh is
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  Speaker 3: 12 years old. Ayush is 10 years old.
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  Speaker 1: They are brothers. Good morning, gents.
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  Speaker 7: Good morning. Good morning.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, fellas. How are you doing? We're good, we're good. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: who's going to tell us? What is a reverse charge call?
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  Speaker 3: I am.
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  Speaker 1: Which one are you? Josh?
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Josh, tell us.
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  Speaker 3: A reverse charge.
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  Speaker 8: Call is when you call someone but they have to
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  Speaker 8: pay for it.
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  Speaker 1: They have to pay for it.
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  Speaker 3: So the charge is reversed. You don't pay for it.
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  Speaker 3: The person receiving the call pays for it.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, did you know how it worked back in the day?
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  Speaker 8: Oh, no.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Keep on listening. You are halfway correct, by the way.
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  Speaker 8: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Enjoy school, guys. Love you.
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  Speaker 8: Bye.
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  Speaker 1: Love you.
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  Speaker 7: Bye.
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  Speaker 1: Hugs all around.
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  Speaker 8: Hugs, hugs, hugs, hugs, hugs.
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  Speaker 1: Chitty patooties. Jacinta, you are nine years old and you
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  Speaker 1: are in Terfontein. Good morning, Jacinta.
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  Speaker 8: Morning.
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  Speaker 1: How are you, baby girl?
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  Speaker 8: I'm good and you?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good as well. Do you know what a reverse
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  Speaker 1: charge call is?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me.
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  Speaker 8: A reverse call is when you call your mother or
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  Speaker 8: a family member, your family member is going to pay
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  Speaker 8: for your reverse.
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  Speaker 7: Call.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, there we go. You are absolutely correct.
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  Speaker 3: The charge is not going to go to you who
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  Speaker 3: is calling. It is going to go to the person
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  Speaker 3: that you are calling.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Jacinda. Enjoy school. Bye.
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  Speaker 8: Bye.
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  Speaker 3: Bye.
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  Speaker 6: Bye.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, the kids have pretty much figured it out. But actually,
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  Speaker 1: it goes a little bit deeper.
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  Speaker 3: So you would go to a phone and you'd press 1025, right?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: And then somebody at Telcom would pick up the phone.
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  Speaker 3: And this is like an operator.
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  Speaker 2: At Tani.
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  Speaker 3: At Tani.
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  Speaker 1: And they would go, hello. And then you would say, hello.
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  Speaker 1: And then you'd be like, please, I'd like to call 011-661-7563.
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  Speaker 3: Right. And then they would be like, okay. Then they
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  Speaker 3: would call 011-661-7563. And then your mom or your dad
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  Speaker 3: would pick up on the other end. And then they
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  Speaker 3: would speak to your parents and say.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, we have a reverse charge call from Frankie. Correct.
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  Speaker 3: And now, obviously, Frankie's parents know Frankie. They were like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 3: so Frankie's trying to get hold of us. And then
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  Speaker 3: they would say, okay, accept. And that's when the call
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  Speaker 3: would then start charging the person you called being your parents.
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  Speaker 3: And then the telecom lady would patch you through, okay, and.
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  Speaker 2: Then you guys could talk. But there were also, there
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  Speaker 2: were numbers that you couldn't do this with. Really?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, so some places didn't allow it. So that's why
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  Speaker 5: it was so tricky because it depends on where your
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  Speaker 5: parents work. Because if you phone your mom at work,
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  Speaker 5: now her work is paying. Oh, stop it. I know
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  Speaker 5: my mom was very strict about this. You can't reverse
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  Speaker 5: charge call me because I can't, the school, which was
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  Speaker 5: working in the school, the school can't pay for my call.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't think you could do a reverse charge
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  Speaker 3: call to a cell phone.
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  Speaker 1: It had to be telecom to telecom.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is, and the reason for this kids is
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  Speaker 5: because back in the day, There were so many different
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  Speaker 5: amounts of money that you paid for different calls. Like
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  Speaker 5: if I phoned my friend who was a block away
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  Speaker 5: from where I live.
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  Speaker 1: It was cheaper.
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  Speaker 2: It was cheaper than phoning someone who lived in Johannesburg.
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  Speaker 2: It was cheaper than phoning someone who lived in Cape Town.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So there was different levels of charges the whole time.
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  Speaker 3: And as we were speaking now with the reverse charge call,
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  Speaker 3: I also remember that if you sometimes international calls.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: If somebody calls you, if I'm traveling and you call
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  Speaker 3: me whilst I'm traveling.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: We both pay for the call.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, remember that.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, guys, God bless WhatsApp, eh? Let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 1: We were in the dark, dark, dark ages. Tato is
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  Speaker 1: blown away. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: If I'm traveling internationally and you phone me, it would
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  Speaker 3: charge me... A lot of money for you to call me.
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  Speaker 5: That was in the early days of cell phones as well.
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  Speaker 3: That's why people would actually have a voicemail that says, hi,
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  Speaker 3: I am out of the country.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not call. Rather, send a message.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: It's wild, eh? It's wild. You, God bless WhatsApp.