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- 0:00Speaker 1: The Diet Love pass Incident. It's one of those things
- 0:03just the name sends shivers down your spine, doesn't it
- 0:07It does. It sounds like, I don't know, something you'd
- 0:08read out of like a thriller novel or you know,
- 0:11some fictional fictional.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Story, campfire tale.
- 0:14Speaker 1: Yeah, but this mystery, it's all too real, it is,
- 0:19and that's kind of what makes it so much creepier. Right,
- 0:22So we're talking the Soviet Union nineteen fifty nine, Okay,
- 0:26when this group of hikers they vanish in the Ural mountains, right,
- 0:30and it's under such bizarre circumstances, like it's stumped investigators, Yeah,
- 0:36for decades. I mean, this isn't something that like you know,
- 0:37oh they figured it out the next year or whatever. Right, Right,
- 0:40this has gone on for.
- 0:41Speaker 2: A long time. It's perplexed people.
- 0:43Speaker 1: And rightfully so. Right.
- 0:44Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 0:44Speaker 1: So today that's what we're diving into, taking a look
- 0:47at this. And we're using excerpts from this online article
- 0:50and they titled it simply Diet Love pass Incident, straightforward, yeah,
- 0:55which I kind of appreciate. Keeps it to the point, Yeah,
- 0:59nice and easy. Yeah, So hopefully we can you know,
- 1:01take a look at this separate fact from fiction, maybe
- 1:04uncover a truth or two along the way.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's a case that truly captures the imagination.
- 1:11It's one of those things where it's it's not just about,
- 1:14you know, a tragic disappearance, it's about the limits of
- 1:18what we know, and then the unsettling feeling that sometimes,
- 1:22like you said, the simplest explanation just isn't quite right right.
- 1:26Speaker 1: And that's what gets me is because on the surface,
- 1:29you think, okay, hiker's gone missing in the wilderness.
- 1:32Speaker 2: Yeah, tragic, but it happens.
- 1:34Speaker 1: Stuff happens, yeah.
- 1:35Speaker 2: You know, sadly, it's not unheard of.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Happens all the time, unfortunately.
- 1:39Speaker 2: But then you start looking at the specifics right of
- 1:42the dialogue past incident, and it's almost like falling down
- 1:46this rabbit hole of like, wait, what how did that happen?
- 1:49So you've got these experienced hikers, and that's what's so
- 1:51crazy to me. These were not amateurs. These people were
- 1:55venturing out in the dead of winter and they were
- 1:59aiming for their Grade three certifications, which I mean.
- 2:03Speaker 1: That's that's that's hardcore.
- 2:05Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking like the highest hiking certification in the
- 2:08Soviet Union. So no small feat.
- 2:10Speaker 1: These guys knew what they were doing, or at least
- 2:12should have. Yeah, this was serious business, right, and their
- 2:15goal was this grueling one hundred and ninety mile trek
- 2:20through the Ural mountains.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Yeah, ambitious.
- 2:22Speaker 1: Yeah, So this was no you know, walk in the park.
- 2:25Speaker 2: They were going for it.
- 2:26Speaker 1: They were going for it exactly.
- 2:27Speaker 2: And that's what and that's what's crucial, right, because that
- 2:30detail about their experience, it immediately undercuts the easy answers. Right.
- 2:37These weren't weekend warriors who wandered off ill prepared, Right.
- 2:41They knew the risks, They understood, like you're saying, the
- 2:45challenges of these conditions.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Right.
- 2:47Speaker 2: They were meticulously organized. Yeah, I mean they had detailed itineraries,
- 2:51they registered their route, they got approval from the local
- 2:54sports committee.
- 2:55Speaker 1: They were doing they were checking all the boxes.
- 2:57Speaker 2: They checked all the boxes, which makes it so bizarre.
- 3:00It makes their fate all the more strange.
- 3:02Speaker 1: It really does. So rewind January twenty fifth, nineteen fifty nine. Okay,
- 3:07our group of ten sets off right on this what
- 3:10was supposed to be this ambitious journey, first by train
- 3:14and then they were making their way to the village
- 3:17of his high and this was like the last outpost
- 3:20of civilization before you hit like the real wilderness and
- 3:24of the wild.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Yeah. And they're documenting their journey in these diaries and
- 3:28with photographs as you do, like you do when you're
- 3:31on an adventure. You know you're going to take pictures,
- 3:34you're going to write about it. And they even had
- 3:36to adjust their plans slightly. Okay, one of their members,
- 3:41your Udine, he had to turn back. He had some
- 3:44health problems, so he couldn't continue.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Can you imagine being that guy, Oh my gosh, the
- 3:50last man to see them alive essentially, And.
- 3:53Speaker 2: Then years later, right after everything that unfolded, did he
- 3:57ever retrace those steps? You know, right thinking about what
- 4:00if I had just stuck it out?
- 4:01Speaker 1: What if I had just yeah, if I.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Just toughed it out, right, I would they all still
- 4:05be here.
- 4:05Speaker 1: It's like a ghost story in its own right, just
- 4:07that piece of it.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:09Speaker 1: But even with that setback, the remaining nine hikers they
- 4:12had continued on determined. Oh yeah, yeah, they were going
- 4:16to complete this thing, right. They followed their planned route.
- 4:21They even stashed some supplies along the way, like, you know,
- 4:25for their return trip. Yeah, which always gets me because
- 4:27it's just like they were so confident, like this just
- 4:30shows their confidence and their abilities.
- 4:32Speaker 2: We got this, We're gonna be big, Yeah, exactly, piece
- 4:37of cake.
- 4:38Speaker 1: And it makes it that much more eerie, right right, And.
- 4:40Speaker 2: It makes their later decisions, as we'll get to, even
- 4:43more perplexing, right because, as we know, things take a turn. Yes,
- 4:47they encountered some severe weather, heavy snowstorms, yeah, reduce visibility,
- 4:53and this kind of forced them off their intended course
- 4:55a little bit.
- 4:56Speaker 1: Right.
- 4:56Speaker 2: They ended up on the slopes of Cullet Cycle Mountain, okay,
- 5:01which ends up being you know, yeah, this place that's
- 5:04etched in history for all the wrong.
- 5:06Speaker 1: Reasons, right right.
- 5:07Speaker 2: And it's here that we encounter one of the first
- 5:12big why questions, Yes, of the dial Off Pass incident. Okay,
- 5:17So they get to this mountain, yeah, and instead of
- 5:20backtracking just a short distance to a more sheltered area,
- 5:24for whatever reason, they decided to set up camp right
- 5:27there on the exposed slope.
- 5:29Speaker 1: Yeah, why, And that's the question. Like experienced hikers, you
- 5:33would think deteriorating conditions, you're not going to put yourself
- 5:37in a more precarious situation.
- 5:38Speaker 2: You'd think they would want to hunker down and be safe. Yeah,
- 5:41find the safest possible spot.
- 5:43Speaker 1: So was it just a miscalculation, were they overconfident it's possible?
- 5:48Or was there something else entirely that made them.
- 5:50Speaker 2: Stop there that we don't know about? Right?
- 5:52Speaker 1: And that's what makes it so intriguing, exactly.
- 5:54Speaker 2: It's haunted investigators for decades.
- 5:56Speaker 1: And then there's semyon the solitary off right, Yes, the
- 5:59miss the mystery man of the group.
- 6:01Speaker 2: It's a curious case, right, he was the eleventh person
- 6:04on the approved list, okay for this expedition, but like
- 6:08you said, details about him, they're so sparse, very thin. Yeah,
- 6:14we don't know a whole lot about him, Like who
- 6:16was this guy?
- 6:17Speaker 1: What was he doing there?
- 6:18Speaker 2: What was his connection to the group?
- 6:20Speaker 1: Who was his story?
- 6:21Speaker 2: Right? And you see these accounts some people suggesting that
- 6:24maybe he even had a different name.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, interesting.
- 6:27Speaker 2: Like what's going on there? Was he just a quiet,
- 6:31enigmatic member of the group or could there be more?
- 6:34Speaker 1: Right? And if there is more, what is it?
- 6:36Speaker 2: We don't know yet?
- 6:37Speaker 1: And does it come? See, these are the questions, these are.
- 6:39Speaker 2: The threads we're trying to untangle.
- 6:41Speaker 1: So many questions and we're just getting started.
- 6:43Speaker 2: Just at the tip of the iceberg.
- 6:45Speaker 1: So the last confirmed date that we have from these
- 6:47hikers is February first, nineteen fifty nine. Okay, after that
- 6:52radio silence, silence, they were due back. They never arrived,
- 6:57never showed. So search parties they went out into this
- 7:01unforgiving wilderness. They're bracing for the worst.
- 7:05Speaker 2: Of course, they're thinking it's not going to be good.
- 7:07Speaker 1: It's not going to be good. And what they found
- 7:10would send shock waves through the Soviet Union and honestly,
- 7:14I mean captivate the world for generations to come. Absolutely,
- 7:18because February twenty sixth, the searchers they find this abandoned campsite.
- 7:24And abandoned doesn't even cover it. Okay, the tent was
- 7:28a mess, partially buried in the snow. But here's the
- 7:31real kicker. It had been cut open from the inside.
- 7:34Us I know.
- 7:36Speaker 2: Right, why would you do that?
- 7:37Speaker 1: That's what doesn't make sense. Yeah, it's almost as if
- 7:41you know, like.
- 7:41Speaker 2: What would possess you to do that?
- 7:43Speaker 1: Right? It suggests panic, at least a desperate flight from something.
- 7:47Speaker 2: It's like they were running for their lives.
- 7:49Speaker 1: It really is like they were running from something.
- 7:52Speaker 2: Terrifying. Imagine being one of those searchers coming across that scene,
- 7:56that slashed tent in the middle of nowhere. Yeah, I mean,
- 8:00it's got to send chills down your spine.
- 8:02Speaker 1: Yeah, just thinking about it, just a total mystery, like
- 8:04where did they go?
- 8:06Speaker 2: Right?
- 8:06Speaker 1: Did they just disappear? Did somebody grab them? What happened?
- 8:09Speaker 2: Yeah? Like what are you running from? That would make
- 8:11you cut yourself out of a tent rather than unzip it,
- 8:14I know, bizarre?
- 8:16Speaker 1: And then to lead to lead away from this tent. Yeah,
- 8:19they found nine sets of footprints, Okay, some barefoot, some
- 8:23it just socks. Oh no, I know, talk about a
- 8:26way to get frostbite.
- 8:28Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a recipe for disaster, especially in those conditions,
- 8:31in that kind of weather.
- 8:32Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely brutal. So they followed these tracks towards a
- 8:37nearby wooded area, but then they disappeared after about five
- 8:41hundred meters, just gone, just gone, swallowed by the snow. Wow,
- 8:46Which I mean, if you think about that image, it's
- 8:48like these footprints leading into the white void.
- 8:50Speaker 2: You know, it's eerie.
- 8:51Speaker 1: It's eerie. Yeah, and it speaks to like the isolation,
- 8:54the desperation, mystery out of those final moments.
- 8:57Speaker 2: Absolutely, but it's like out.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Of a revival horror movie or something, you know, totally.
- 9:03And at the edge of these woods they found under
- 9:07a large Siberian pine, they found this small fire, okay,
- 9:12and there two bodies were discovered, Kravonashenko and Doroshenko, Okay,
- 9:17shoeless only in their underclothes, frozen solid.
- 9:21Speaker 2: So this is where it starts to get really strange.
- 9:23Speaker 1: Right, because at this point you're like, Okay, maybe exposure,
- 9:25like that's kind of a logical it makes sense.
- 9:27Speaker 2: Given the environment. Right, Hypothermia it's a very real threat,
- 9:33and it can lead to disorientation, even paradoxical undressing.
- 9:37Speaker 1: Yeah, where you're taking your clothes.
- 9:38Speaker 2: Off exactly, even though it's freezing cold, you feel like
- 9:41you're overheating. Yeah, it's a strange quirk of how the
- 9:44body reacts.
- 9:45Speaker 1: Yeah. So at this point, you know, they're like, Okay,
- 9:48well this is sad, but it's kind.
- 9:51Speaker 2: Of that's a tragic accident, you think, right, we kind.
- 9:54Speaker 1: Of see what happened here. Yeah, But as more bodies
- 9:57are found over the following weeks.
- 9:59Speaker 2: Uh, oh, I know, right, it gets more complicated.
- 10:01Speaker 1: The plot thickens. That hypothermia theory, it starts to fall
- 10:05apart a.
- 10:05Speaker 2: Little, I think quite fit.
- 10:07Speaker 1: So we're not just talking about bodies found frozen in
- 10:10the snow. No. Three of these hikers, they had suffered
- 10:14severe trauma, and like the kind of trauma that doesn't
- 10:17add up to a simple fall or an animal attack
- 10:21or anything like that.
- 10:22Speaker 2: So what are we talking about.
- 10:23Speaker 1: We're talking serious chest fractures. Wow, a major skull injury
- 10:28was found.
- 10:29Speaker 2: That's serious stuff.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Yeah, like injuries that are more consistent with a car crash.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Really than, like you said, anything you'd expect to find
- 10:37out in the wilderness, right.
- 10:38Speaker 1: And the forensic expert at the time, he said that
- 10:41the force needed to cause these injuries was like being
- 10:45hit by a car at high speed. A serious I know,
- 10:48and obviously there were no cars involved, but it just
- 10:51gives you a sense of the force that we're talking
- 10:53about here.
- 10:54Speaker 2: It's a bizarre detail. It's like, what on earth could
- 10:57it cause this?
- 10:58Speaker 1: Okay? And it gets weirder. So remember those footprints, Yeah,
- 11:02some of them barefoot, some of them in socks. Right, Well,
- 11:05some of these hikers they were found partially dressed.
- 11:08Speaker 2: Okay, Now that's strange. Why would you why would you
- 11:11take your clothes off in that kind of weather, right,
- 11:14it's freezing.
- 11:15Speaker 1: I know. It's one of those things where it's like,
- 11:17I mean, I guess paradostoxical undressing could be a factor.
- 11:21Speaker 2: It could be you know, like we were saying, with hypothermia. Yeah,
- 11:25the body systems start to shut down, you get confused,
- 11:28you might feel a false sense of warmth, right, right,
- 11:31you know it's a grim irony of survival sometimes.
- 11:33Speaker 1: Right.
- 11:34Speaker 2: But even with that explanation, you know, the severity of
- 11:39the injuries, the nature.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Of the injuries, it doesn't make sense.
- 11:42Speaker 2: It just doesn't quite add up.
- 11:43Speaker 1: It really doesn't. It just seems like one thing after another.
- 11:46Speaker 2: It's like it's like the mountain itself lashed out at
- 11:49these hikers with this force that nobody can explain. It's true,
- 11:54and it's no wonder that the dialog Pass incident. It
- 11:56becomes this breeding ground for wild theories.
- 11:59Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you've got a slash tent, you've got strange injuries,
- 12:03you've got missing clothing, Like, come.
- 12:05Speaker 2: On, it's a recipe for speculation, right.
- 12:09Speaker 1: It really is. I mean, you've got everything from animal
- 12:11attacks to avalanches to UFOs too, because like secret government experiments.
- 12:17Speaker 2: I mean, it's got it all, it really does. It's
- 12:20human nature to try to find an explanation.
- 12:22Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 12:23Speaker 2: Of course, when we're faced with something we don't understand,
- 12:25we want to fill in the blanks. We want to
- 12:27make sense of it, right, and when the logical explanations,
- 12:30you know, they kind of fall short. Yeah, we tend
- 12:33to get creative. It's no surprise that this case, with
- 12:36its tantalizing.
- 12:37Speaker 1: Lack of closure, it really does. Yeah.
- 12:40Speaker 2: It captures imaginations. Yeah, it gets people talking, it does.
- 12:43Speaker 1: Okay, So let's let's dive into some of these theories.
- 12:46Then let's start with the animal attack, okay, because I
- 12:49mean that seems like the most straightforward, right. Sure, you know,
- 12:52you're in the wilderness. It happens, something happens.
- 12:55Speaker 2: It could be a bear, a bear.
- 12:56Speaker 1: A pack of wolves, you know, a rogue moose, who knows,
- 13:00who knows? It could be bigfoot for all.
- 13:02Speaker 2: We know, right, lurking in those woods.
- 13:04Speaker 1: Right exactly.
- 13:05Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Okay, there's no evidence, right, Like
- 13:08you said, they were running, they were afraid of something.
- 13:10They cut themselves out of the tent. But there's no
- 13:12animal tracks. Oh. Interesting, there's no signs of a struggle.
- 13:16There's no you know, animal hair.
- 13:18Speaker 1: There's no It's like they were running from an idea, right, It's.
- 13:21Speaker 2: Like they were running from something they couldn't see.
- 13:23Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, So it wasn't an animal.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Or at least there's no evidence to support it. Okay.
- 13:27We can't rule it out completely, but it doesn't seem likely.
- 13:29Speaker 1: Right, Okay, So what about the Mancy people? Oh?
- 13:31Speaker 2: Right, the indigenous people of the region.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Yeah, because I know they were initially suspected, right they were.
- 13:36Speaker 2: There were some initial suspicions because you know, this was
- 13:38their land, they knew the area. Maybe there was a territorial.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Dispute or something, right, something that we just wouldn't understand, right.
- 13:45Speaker 2: Some cultural clash that were not privy Tokay. But again,
- 13:49no evidence interesting, no signs of a struggle, no, you know,
- 13:53no weapons or anything like that. So as intriguing as
- 13:59that theory might be, it just doesn't hold water.
- 14:02Speaker 1: It really doesn't, not with the evidence we have. Okay.
- 14:05So if it wasn't an animal, it wasn't another group
- 14:09of people. What about the environment itself? Could it have
- 14:13been you know, an avalanche?
- 14:15Speaker 2: An avalanche?
- 14:16Speaker 1: Because that's a theory that's gained a lot of traction.
- 14:19Speaker 2: Right, it has, and it would certainly explain the force
- 14:22needed to cause those injuries. We're talking about a lot.
- 14:26Speaker 1: Of force, massive amounts.
- 14:27Speaker 2: Of force, right, and an avalanche could definitely do that.
- 14:30Speaker 1: Okay, But wouldn't they have heard it coming?
- 14:32Speaker 2: That's the thing. Not necessarily really, it depends on the
- 14:36type of avalanche. Oh okay, we're not just talking about
- 14:39a Hollywood style avalanche with this giant, roaring wall of snow,
- 14:44a slab avalanche, which is common in that area. It
- 14:47can occur with little to no warning.
- 14:50Speaker 1: Oh.
- 14:50Speaker 2: It's basically a large section of snow that breaks loose
- 14:54and slides down the slope. And it could happen incredibly fast.
- 14:58Speaker 1: Oh wow, So you wouldn't have time to react exactly.
- 15:00Speaker 2: You're caught off guard. You're in trouble.
- 15:02Speaker 1: Okay, So that would make sense why they cut themselves out.
- 15:05Speaker 2: It could. It's a desperate attempt to escape, right, You're
- 15:08trying to get out of there any way you can.
- 15:10Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense.
- 15:11Speaker 2: But even with the avalanche theory, there are still some
- 15:14unanswered questions, like what well, for example, some of those
- 15:18injuries they don't seem to fit with just being caught in.
- 15:21Speaker 1: An avalanche, right, like that skull fracture. That doesn't really
- 15:25that's a head scratcher, it really is.
- 15:27Speaker 2: And then the whole partially dressed thing, right, why if
- 15:30you're buried under snow, why are you taking your clothes off?
- 15:33Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense. And then on top of that,
- 15:37the radiation.
- 15:38Speaker 2: Ah, yes, the radiation.
- 15:40Speaker 1: Because we didn't even get into that yet.
- 15:41Speaker 2: Right, because that adds a whole other layer to this,
- 15:44a whole other like, because now we're not just talking
- 15:46about a natural disaster or a tragic accident, We're talking
- 15:50about something potentially more sinister.
- 15:52Speaker 1: Right, because some people believe that that points to like
- 15:55secret Cold War experiments.
- 15:58Speaker 2: It's possible. I mean, this is so union. They weren't
- 16:01exactly known for their transparency, right exactly, And the idea
- 16:05of them conducting secret tests, maybe even something involving radioactive materials.
- 16:10Speaker 1: It's not that far fetched.
- 16:11Speaker 2: It is not that far fetched at all.
- 16:12Speaker 1: So we've got all these threads we're trying to untangle.
- 16:14Speaker 2: It's a tangled web, that's for sure.
- 16:16Speaker 1: It's a real miss.
- 16:17Speaker 2: It's like trying to solve a puzzle, but half the
- 16:20pieces are missing and the other half are faded.
- 16:22Speaker 1: With time, Right, it's like you don't even know what
- 16:24you're looking at anymore.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Exactly. You're left with more questions than answers.
- 16:28Speaker 1: Which is kind of frustrating in a way.
- 16:31Speaker 2: It can be, but it's also what makes it so fascinating.
- 16:33Speaker 1: That is true. Okay, well let's try to find some
- 16:35more of those puzzle pieces.
- 16:36Speaker 2: Then let's do it.
- 16:37Speaker 1: It really is like trying to solve a puzzle with
- 16:41like you said, half the pieces are missing, the other
- 16:43half are faded. You don't know if you're coming or
- 16:46going with this thing.
- 16:47Speaker 2: That's a real head scratcher, it is.
- 16:49Speaker 1: And you know what, even with all that, even with
- 16:53how crazy it is decades later, Yeah, this case, it
- 16:57still fascinates people, of course, and rightfully so. And there
- 17:01have been new investigations. They're utilizing modern techniques.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Right because we've got better tools now than they had
- 17:07back then.
- 17:07Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 17:08Speaker 2: So it's like, can science crack the code of this
- 17:11historical mystery.
- 17:12Speaker 1: Right exactly? Can we go back and look with fresh
- 17:14eyes and maybe see something that they missed exactly?
- 17:17Speaker 2: And that's what I find so fascinating about these more
- 17:19recent efforts. Yeah, it's not just about trying to find
- 17:22a definitive answer, right, It's about what we can learn,
- 17:26what new perspectives we can gain, even if the mystery
- 17:29itself remains unsolved.
- 17:31Speaker 1: Okay, so what like, what are some of the things
- 17:33that they've looked at, because I know, like they exhumed
- 17:37Semyon Zolitariov's body back in twenty eighteen.
- 17:40Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a big deal.
- 17:41Speaker 1: It was a whole thing, right it was.
- 17:42Speaker 2: I mean, the idea of trying to extract viable DNA
- 17:46from a body that's been frozen for decades.
- 17:49Speaker 1: Right in the Siberian wilderness. No less, it's like something
- 17:52out of a movie, it really is. Did they find anything,
- 17:55like was it worth it?
- 17:57Speaker 2: Well? The results were a bit underwhelming on that front. Yeah,
- 18:00the DNA analysis didn't reveal any groundbreaking information about his
- 18:05identity or anything like that.
- 18:06Speaker 1: Oh so, still a mystery man.
- 18:09Speaker 2: Still a mystery man.
- 18:10Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I was hoping that was our ind I know,
- 18:12it'd been great, tie it all together right, connect the
- 18:15dots exactly.
- 18:15Speaker 2: But there was something Okay, examining his remains did offer
- 18:20up a rather eerie detail.
- 18:21Speaker 1: Don't tell me it's the car crash thing again. It
- 18:24is are you kidding me? I know, right, Like, what
- 18:27are the odds?
- 18:27Speaker 2: Like that detail just keeps popping up.
- 18:29Speaker 1: It's so creepy.
- 18:30Speaker 2: The forensic expert involved. He noted that the nature of
- 18:33Solitariov's injuries, yeah, consistent with someone being hit by a
- 18:37car at high speed.
- 18:39Speaker 1: But again, middle of nowhere, nineteen fifty nine.
- 18:42Speaker 2: No cars, Nope, no cars.
- 18:44Speaker 1: So strange.
- 18:45Speaker 2: It's like our minds try to make sense of the
- 18:47inexplicable by drawing these bizarre.
- 18:51Speaker 1: Parallels, right, Like our brains just can't compute it. So
- 18:54they're like, well, it's like a.
- 18:55Speaker 2: Car crash exactly, because what else could possibly cause that
- 18:59kind of damage?
- 19:01Speaker 1: Right? And that's the thing. It's like we're trying to
- 19:02apply logic to something that might be completely illogical.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Maybe there's a completely different set of rules.
- 19:08Speaker 1: At play here, right, or maybe something happened that we
- 19:11just don't have the capacity to understand exactly. Okay, So
- 19:15that was twenty eighteen. They exhumed the body, didn't really
- 19:19find out a whole lot, not as much as we hoped, right,
- 19:22But then the case was officially reopened by Russian authorities
- 19:27in twenty nineteen.
- 19:28Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a big deal too.
- 19:29Speaker 1: It was like they were finally taking it seriously again.
- 19:32Speaker 2: It was like they were acknowledging that there were still
- 19:34unanswered questions.
- 19:35Speaker 1: Right, and they wanted to see if they could finally
- 19:37put this to rest.
- 19:38Speaker 2: But here's the thing. They were quick to rule out
- 19:41foul play. Really yeah, they said there was no evidence
- 19:44to suggest that another group or individuals were involved. Interesting,
- 19:48they were focused on natural explanations, so like, what specifically
- 19:53an avalanche?
- 19:55Speaker 1: Again, back to the avalanche.
- 19:56Speaker 2: It kept coming up, and this time they were looking
- 19:59at it with a more detailed approach.
- 20:01Speaker 1: So not just any avalanche. They were looking at specific types.
- 20:05Speaker 2: Exactly, because it turns out not all avalanches are created equal.
- 20:10Speaker 1: Okay, I'm intrigued, tell me more.
- 20:12Speaker 2: So, they were focusing on the possibility of a slab avalanche, which,
- 20:16like we talked about before, can happen very suddenly.
- 20:19Speaker 1: Right, Like the mountain just sheds its skin.
- 20:21Speaker 2: Exactly, and it's a massive amount of force enough to
- 20:24cause serious damage.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Okay, So that would make sense with the tent and everything.
- 20:27Speaker 2: Right, they're caught off guard, they're trying to escape, it's chaos.
- 20:30Speaker 1: But what about those injuries and the radiation, Like, how
- 20:35does that fit into the avalanche theory.
- 20:37Speaker 2: That's the million dollar question, isn't it.
- 20:39Speaker 1: It really is. It's like every time we get close
- 20:42to an answer, we just end up with more questions.
- 20:44Speaker 2: And that's the thing about the Dialogue Past incident. It's
- 20:47a case that defies easy answers.
- 20:49Speaker 1: So where does that leave us? I mean, after decades
- 20:53of investigation, speculation, analysis, it seems like.
- 20:57Speaker 2: The avalanche theory it's the most plausible explanation. Okay, it's
- 21:01the one that aligns most closely with the available evidence.
- 21:04Speaker 1: But it doesn't explain everything.
- 21:06Speaker 2: Unfortunately, no, it doesn't. And that's part of what makes
- 21:08this case so enduringly fascinating.
- 21:12Speaker 1: Right.
- 21:12Speaker 2: It's a reminder that even in our age of advanced technology,
- 21:15we don't have all the answers.
- 21:16Speaker 1: Some things are still a mystery exactly. Well, hopefully someday,
- 21:20maybe someone listening right now, you never know, will be
- 21:22the one to finally figure it out.
- 21:24Speaker 2: Maybe they'll find that missing piece of the puzzle.
- 21:26Speaker 1: That would be amazing. Well, until then, the mystery of
- 21:29the diet love pass incident.
- 21:31Speaker 2: Continues a case for the ages.
- 21:34Speaker 1: It really is. If you're interested in learning more, and
- 21:36I know you are, of course. The online article we
- 21:39used is called Diet Love Pass Incident.
- 21:41Speaker 2: Check it out, dive into the details.
- 21:43Speaker 1: You will get lost in this. Trust me and until
- 21:45next time, keep exploring, keep questioning, and as always, keep
- 21:50diving deep