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Lorraine McAdam - Phantoms in the Night or ETs? · Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman

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My name is Victor Ferman. Some call me the Voice. I've always been
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fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and the crossroads at which they meet.
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Join me now and we will explore these topics and so much more with
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fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to Destination Unlimited. Are
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you a contactee, abductee, or experiencer? What were those experiences like,
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what did you learn from them and how did they change your life and understanding
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of our place in the universe. My guest this week on Destination Unlimited,
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Lorraine McAdam, began having contact experiences as a young child, and, like
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many of us with shared experience, was chastised for mentioning them and told she
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was imagining things. A series of experiences as she grew confirmed what she already
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knew that we are not alone in the universe and diverse life forms have been
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visiting Earth for thousands of years. She joins me this week on Destination Unlimited
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to share her story and just published book Phantoms in the Night or Ets,
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My lifelong experience of contact with the paranormal. Please join me in welcoming to
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Destination Unlimited. Lorraine McAdam welcome Lorraine. Hi, how are you wonderful?
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Thank you so nice to have you with us today. Lorraine, please share
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with us your childhood experiences of early contact and visitations. Well, the earliest
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memory I have of anything resembling eats, although at the time I didn't realize
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it was eats. I want to stress that was I used to get these
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two quite handsome men appearing on my ceiling and it was like, if you
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will, a projection, holographic projection onto my ceiling. And I used to
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converse with these two men, and they were very friendly and seemed very caring
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and non threatening. And I used to converse with them when I was a
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child. And one day my dad caught me chattering away with these two and
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he asked me who I was talking to, and I hid it from him,
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and you know, we just gave me a funny look and went out
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of the room. And he caught me twice talking to these two. But
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the strange thing is, I can't remember what we talked about. Now when
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I look back on it, I can remember I did it, but I
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can't remember what we're talking about. But I can remember what they looked like.
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They were kind of dressed in black turtleneck sweaters, and you could see
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through the When you could see behind them, they seemed to be in space
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in some kind of large craft because you could see the windows came right down
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to the ground behind them, and you could see space or stars through the
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windows. And this stopped happening circle around. I was around nine years old,
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and they just seemed to not appear anymore, and nothing really untoward happened
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to me after that until I got to about twelve years old, and then
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suddenly I started to, I believe, be abducted, but at the time
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I don't think I recognize what it was because I looked at everything through I'd
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had a Christian upbringing and gone to church regularly, so I looked at what
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was happening to me, being paralyzed, blacking out when I was paralyzed,
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feeling there was something in my bedroom, and things like that, and hearing
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voices. I looked upon it as a kind of demon persecution, because I
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did, on occasion catch site of what I now know to be the Gray
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aliens, and they had these huge black eyes, of course, which terrified
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me. And then I got a flashback of being taken through a wall at
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the house, and I think all the time they were trying to say to
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me, we're not demons, were actually as solid as you are, and
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that we're beings from another place. But there was one occasion they put me
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back outside with the door the back door locked against me on the front door
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locked against me, and I thought, what am I doing in the garden.
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There was one occasion as well where they drew on my back. I
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was paralyzed. Well, they did something to my back, and I thought,
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what on earth are they drawing? And it didn't hurt. I could
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just tell they were drawing something on my back. But I was terrified,
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as you can imagine, and I actually waited till I came out of the
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paralysis that I would come out of eventually, and it would be daylight usually
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when it would start would be it would be dark. And there were these
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hieroglyphic symbols drawn on the back of my night dress. So I found that
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utterly terrifying, and I was so frightened. I just didn't know what to
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make of it that I went and showed it. Well, I put it
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in the laundry, foolishly thinking, you know, my mum would wash it
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anyway, and she really told me off and made me scrub them out myself,
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and she said I'd done them, and Mum wouldn't believe me at all,
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And a lot of these strange things happened, and she thought when I
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on the occasion I was put back in the garden, she said that I'd
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climbed down the downpipe and that I deliberately put myself in the garden because I
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was attention seeking. And you know, she wouldn't believe me about the strange
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symbols that appeared on my night dress. She just wouldn't believe me at all.
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She said I had a vivid imagination. And it was all very frightening
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for me at that age because in nineteen seventy six there was hardly anything.
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In fact, I don't think Whitley Striber wrote Communion until the eighties, and
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there was just nothing about this. So I just put it all down to
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demon attack because of my Christianity, my western world viewpoint. Getting back to
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the Nordic visitation, Yes they were not frightening beings. Who do you think
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they were? Perhaps angels? Yes, I did. The first encounter I
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believe I had with a Nordic was when I was a teenager and I was
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doing my pre nursing course going to college, and I talked about this in
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my book, and I used to gone, I lived on a uge estate
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and I wasn't very wealthy. I had to catch the bus and usually be
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about ten people at the bus stop catching this early morning bus. But she
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put in an appearance twice, and each time that she did that, there
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was only me and her, very strangely, and I would look at this
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girl, and I have a picture of her in my book that I drew
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from memories. She had a very high, cheap bunch, was very beautiful,
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very flawless skin. I would say, you know, she was very
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beautiful, like a supermodel. And I looked at her and I just felt
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this connection. That's all I can describe it. As she you know,
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she was just utterly, I would say, a higher energy than us even
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and we didn't speak at all. It was almost like we just exchanged kind
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of energies. Really, I know that I might sound odd, but I
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just felt that I resonated with her on a more spiritual level. And then
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there was an as I got older, i'd be about fifteen something like that,
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and these two. I'm going to put more men in inverted commas,
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and you'll see why in a minute. These two women came to the house,
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and my mom was in the first time they came, and you know,
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they did the usual thing that woman's doing, just talked a little bit
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about the Book of Maroney and things like that. But then there was a
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dark herd one and there was blonde one. And the blonde one later came
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back on his own, which I'm told that they don't they don't allow,
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which is stranger and of itself, and he sat next to me on our
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couch, and I can remember us having a conversation and again, but I
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cannot remember what he was saying to me. For the life of me,
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I can't remember at all what he was saying to me. But I felt
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as if he was in some kind of disguise. And I actually saw him
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ten years later, the same guy. And I have a really good memory,
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if you faces, so I know it was him. When I was
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later a senior staff nurse and I was going to work one night and the
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same two guys that had visited me when I was, you know, fifteen,
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very in mind. I'm now nearly twenty nine, they hadn't aged one
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bit, and I thought, And they asked my colleague for the time.
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They didn't talk to me. But when they were asking him for the time,
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I was looking at the both and I looked at the blonde one,
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and it was like he was saying, yes, it is me, Yes,
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you do know me, and it was I know that sounds strange,
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not at all. Getting back to your early experiences. When you're a child,
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you attained your mother's reaction to this, had it that reaction influenced you
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in terms of your ability to discuss these experiences. Well, it just made
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me think, if my own mother doesn't believe me, everyone's going to just
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think I'm a nutcase. Every time I bring this thought, they're just gonna
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think, you know, you're a lunatic or something. And there was another
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The first time I actually saw UFO was when I was halfway through nurse training.
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I was on night duty and I was working with an auxiliary nurse or
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you call them nursing assistants I think in the States, and she came to
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me and she said, look at that, and I said, look at
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one. Though it was a very old hospital and the windows were very long,
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and you could look out over the fields and there was this orange ball
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over the field. They were bringing in the harvest at the time, and
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there were lots of tractors about and things, but there was definitely an orange
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ball, and it wasn't the sun because the sun was setting in the process
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of setting at the time. And we reported this the next day to the
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matron, this is the point I'm coming to. And the matron ridiculed both
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of us and told us we weren't talk about We weren't to talk about it
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to anyone, weren't to tell anyone else, and we hadn't to go home
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on the same bus together. Either of us could understand why we were told
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not to say anything to anyone, you know, and she virtually looked at
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us like we were a pair of nutters and just mocked us, basically.
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So it taught me both my mum's reaction. You know, people that are
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authority figures just seemed to react really badly to this and told you to shut
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up and stop talking rubbish, or you know, stop you you're a complete
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nutcase, if you know, if you've stopped telling people things like that,
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So I just stopped. It just made me think I can't tell anyone,
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I'm going to have to hide this. And that was so hard and traumatizing
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in and of itself, because not only could I not articulate what was happening
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to me, because I couldn't understand it in the early seventies because there were
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no books on it, but there was just nowhere to go with it.
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It was something I had to carry around inside me for a long long time,
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you know, without any feedback from anyone or contacting anyone that had experienced
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similar things. So it was very hard. I had shared with you offline,
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and I've shared on this program before a similar reaction to those I reported
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my experiences to as a child being told I had an overactive imagination when I
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had taken a book from school called You Will Go to the Moon and wouldn't
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return it and was asked by the teacher why and I said it's wrong,
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and you said, how do you know what's wrong? And I said I've
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been there. Well, needless to say, the counselors were called, my
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parents were called, and so on. But for those who are listening to
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us right now, for parents of young children who start reporting these experiences to
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their parents, what would you offer What advice would you offer to those parents?
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I would say, whatever you do, you must not invalidate their experiences
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by either saying it's just your imagination or you know you've just this hasn't happened,
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or don't talk about this, or people think you're in no case any
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of those reactions, or I'm going to take you to see a a docts.
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You don't want to be doing any of that. What you need to
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do is listen, which is can be a hard skill. Actually surprisingly listen
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to what they've got to say. Don't interrupt, don't tell them that hasn't
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happened, or react by ridiculing them. That would be the worst thing you
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could do. And try and validate, you know, listen to what they're
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telling you and validate if you know, no matter what it is. And
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try and have a more enlightened attitude than maybe our parents did, because there's
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so much more out there now than they used to be. As well that
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there are people you can talk to there abductee groups on Facebook, and you
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know, I would direct parents to things like that as well, and the
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work of Mary Rodwell. There's a lot of work with start what we call
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star seed, because it could very well be that you might have a star
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I see child as well. You know, because my own children have come
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to me with experiences, and of course I immediately understood. But if you
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haven't encountered it before, try not to react badly to it, I would
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say, absolutely. Now you also share that you were openly psychic and a
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gift that was shared by another one of your relatives. Please tell us about
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this well, my great I think it was great grandmother and grandmother both had
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psychic abilities. My grandmother, my grandmother, Annie could read tea leaves and
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she could read She was a bit of a spirit medium apparently as well,
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and also her sister. I didn't actually have a meet my mother's mother because
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she died when I was a baby, but her sister had the same abilities,
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and she actually told me that I had four spirit guides, which I
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found a bit of a surprise. When I was a teen, I used
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to call her Auntie Rainhard because she always knew when it was going to rain.
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I don't know, this sounds funny. She wouldn't tell me you need
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to get an umbrella, you need to put a court on, and it
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might be a really lovely sunny day and she was always right infuriatingly and so
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I just nicknamed her Anti rainhard behind her back. But yeah, but yes,
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it was in the family. Yeah, So I sometimes wonder if there
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was something in me? Is that what attracted the eaties to me? You
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know what happened in the late nineteen seventies, they changed everything for you.
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The most frightening thing that happened that made me think, this can't be demons
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after all. I actually found two of my plastic you know, the black
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plastic court hangers. Yes, well, I found them in my world or
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after I had been I felt I'd been taken or whatever it was that I
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understood it at the time as and they'd been literally fused together, so that
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they had melted together inside my wardrobe, and that above everything, you know,
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even being locked out made me think, what on earth is going on?
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This must be something more tangible than spiritual persecution, because and I was
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so frightened by this that I just put them in the bin. I should
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have kept them, I should have kept them for evidence, but I was
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so frightened I just wanted to get rid of them. I didn't want to
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face up to it. That really shocked me into thinking there's something more to
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this, you know, than just me a dip demoney or whatever I persecution.
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Yeah, now you're reading of Whitley Streaber's ground breaking book, Communion was
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for you, so oh, it was absolutely I couldn't put it down when
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I saw it, because the first thing that struck me was the face on
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the front, the original, first first edition, And I looked at the
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face on the front and I saw it in a book shop, and I
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couldn't take my eyes away because I thought, I know, that face was
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the first thing that went through my mind. And what I've been ascribing to
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be demons. Once I read this book, and I read it twice all
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the way through, I had to then accept was not demons at all.
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It was some kind of et And I was absolutely amazed and traumatized all at
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the same time by this, and reading that book actually freshly gave me another
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bout of what I called PTSD. I think you call it the same in
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the States, and I was so shocked and shaken up by it, I
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had to take time off work at the time, and I ended up being
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put on anti depressant therapy for a while because I had to face the reality
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that I had been interacting with ets at that point, and that book really
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did wipen me up big time, you know, to the fact that it
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wasn't demons at all, it was eating absolutely. And then what strange event
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did you experience in nineteen eighty six while in Cyprus? Now that was interactions
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with the Nordics, and I believe a gray Elder for one of a better
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way of saying it. What happened was I got chronic food poisoning. I
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was a nurse at the time and were taken two patients out there for holiday.
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I'd gone with a nursing assistance while I was in charge, which made
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it even worse. And I was only newly qualified, really, And the
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first night we arrived, I had some kind of salad and I immediately started
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with really bad vomiting and food poisoning and nausea. I was really really ill,
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quite badly fruit poisoned. And by the time I was taking to hospital
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in the early hours, I was passing out in the ambulance and they had
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to give me oxygen and that sort of thing, you know, And I
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remember just passing in and out of conscious, really in feeling very weak,
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and when I woke up. By the time I came to it was daytime,
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and I think they'd put an intravenous sale and dripp into me, because
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I could feel my hand hurting. And I looked across at the bed next
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to mine, and there was I was disconcerted to see because I was a
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vain teenager at the time still, because you trained, you did nurse training
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at seventeen, so I would just sort of come out of teenager dumb,
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so to speak. I was disconcerted to see there was this handsome young what
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I took to be a Swedish boy, a Swedish man, and there were
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four really equally but all blonde, pale skinned people, very good looking,
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all of them visiting him. So there were two men and two women visiting
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him similar age, looked in the early twenties like I was at the time.
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And I looked and I thought, oh, how embarrassing. I'm I'm
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in a right state here. I probably looked like death warmed up and I'm
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just my look, I meet this handsome guy in this hospital bed, you
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know. And I was feeling very miffed about it. And one of them,
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I was actually itching to go to the loo, and there was I
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couldn't. I don't know why, but I couldn't locate Maybe it was because
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I was so poorly. I couldn't locate my cold belt button for the nurse.
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So I asked one of them if she would just help me get to
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the loo, which was just off the ward. It wasn't very far at
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all, and she went and physically got me a wheelchair and physically put me
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in it and physically wheeled me to this a short distance to the loo,
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which I used, and then came back to put me back in bed.
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She just seemed to me to be a very caring Swedish lady at the time,
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is what I wrote her off as. And anyway, I got back
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in bed promptly fell asleep because I was so weak. And I came too
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later on and it was dark, and I looked across fully expecting to see
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this chap gone, and the bed was all completely made up, nice and
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neatly made up. And you'd think, wouldn't you, that if somebody moved,
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of course they would. They would disturb you when you would hear the
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noise of them moving, nothing, nothing at all. And then the nurse
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came through to reattach my s lin drip because it had come out, and
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I asked her, I said, where's that young man gone that was in
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the bed next to me? And she just replied it shocked me, She
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said, what young man? There's never been a young man next to you.
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You've been in here on your own all this time. There's never been
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anyone except you in here. So how do you think that made me feel?
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I just felt like, oh my God. I wonder if it was
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angels and disguise, because of course I was still a Christian and Jesus taught
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us that not to be afraid when we're in terrible situations, which I felt
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I was because I was in a strange country and I was seriously ill.
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I just put it down to angela intervention at a time when I was really
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very ill in a foreign country, but fascinating. Sharing of the experiences of
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Lorraine McAdam in her new book Fantoms in the Night or Ets My Lifelong Experience
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of Contact with the paranormal. Lorraine, please tell our listeners where they can
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get your fabulous book and learn more about you. They can get my book
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on Amazon UK and Amazon USA. They can also get it at six Books
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if they just put Lorraine McAdam. If you go to Amazon, either Amazon
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and put Lorrain mccadem l O double R A I N and it's M small
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C capital adam into the search engine of Amazon, then it will bring my
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book up automatically. But you've given them the title as well, so I'm
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sure absolutely. And you're also on Facebook, and on Facebook there's a link
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to my book on there. I have a book page that people are welcome
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to come and ask me questions. Also, if you do get a copy,
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either electronic copy or a physical copy, I have put my email address
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at the back of my book because I'm quite open to talking with other people
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or speaking with them on Facebook at any time. You know, I don't
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mind. The reason, pot of the reason I wrote the book was because
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I want to try and contact other people of a like mind that have been
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through similar things under struggling with it for whatever reason like I did. That
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was the main reason I feel how to come out about this. So any
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of those you can contact me on by any of those means. Yeah,
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co creating a more conscious lifestyle. Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this
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week Lorraine McAdam her book Phantoms in the Night or Ets My Lifelong Experience of
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Contact with the paranormal. Lorraine, in the early nineteen nineties, you had
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a strange interview in the city of Manchester. What was strange about it?
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It was very strange early because what happened was I thought I was going for
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a sales job in Manchester and I caught the train from Manchester Piccadilly kind of
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just stressed. So but before this happened, I did have a sighting of
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a red UFO and my now well he's my excessband now, but at my
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first husband naturally witnesses with me and it was it was in the sky and
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it stopped and then it kind of He was saying, no, no,
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it's got to be a plane that and I said, no, that's not
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a plane, because a plane car hover like that. And it just whizzed
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off eventually, and I said, to see, it's not a plane,
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and you know, And then after that happened, this strange interview came up,
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so I wonder sometimes there was a connection. But anyway, I got
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on the train and I got off at Manchester Piccadilly, and I can't actually
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even remember how I got there, which in and of itself is weird.
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I remember I went in a taxi because I had no idea where it was,
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and just gave him the address on the little box thing, and it
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was like a sort of box the office building, and I remember going up
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some stairs and I went in. But the weird thing was about this office
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and the receptionist behind the desk. She was blonde and blue eyed. She
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looked like you'd imagine a Swedish lady might look. But when I look back
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now, I have my suspicions about her being maybe a Nordic kyte. Because
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the funny thing was there was nothing on the walls. They were completely bare.
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They were yellow, and I was asked to sit on a plain red
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plastic chair. There was nothing on a desk, and even for the nineties,
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that strange because you would expect at the very least an electronic typewriter and
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a dial phone, you know, as it was back then, but there
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was nothing at all. This desk was just bare, and I thought that
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was weird. And then I asked her, well, I was waiting if
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I could go and use the loo, and this seemed to fluster her a
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lot. She just couldn't cope with the fact that I was asking the loo.
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And I said, well, surely you must have a toilet or something,
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and she said she said they didn't have a toilet available for me,
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and I said, what not even a staff toilet, No, no,
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nothing, And she really seemed to get flustered about this, which I think
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looking back, was very weird. And I did have this. I do
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have this psychometric gift of being able to read objects and things, as I
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said earlier, that I've had since the age of twelve, which is relevant
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to this, as you'll see as a carry on. But as I was
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sat there waiting, there were things going past cars going past outside. I
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could see because it was summer on the door was kind of propped open,
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and all these cars were blue, with all these kind of handsome blonde medium
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lamp hair they had, and they all looked identical, these handsome, long
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guys in these cars, and I thought, what the heck is going on
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here? Was what went through my head. Not only did it strike me
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as being a bit bare, you know, very bare. There were no
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pictures, no no data on the walls or anything that you'd expect to find
27:44
in an office, and I just accepted it. At the time. I
27:48
didn't, you know, although I thought this is a bit odd, like
27:52
you might think, I didn't think anything of it until I was ushered in.
27:55
And the man that was ushered in to see eventually looked to be of
27:59
a fricking extraction to me. He didn't look at all Nordic. He looked
28:03
very African in his looks, and he was very broad built man. And
28:07
he was sat also behind a completely bad ask and rather than telling me about
28:14
the job, which is what I was fully expected, as I sat down,
28:17
he offered me his wrist watch and asked me if I could read it.
28:19
I believe you're psychimetric. And I thought, and it was only afterwards
28:23
that I thought, how did he know? How did he know I was
28:27
psychimetric? How could he possibly have no one? He didn't tell him,
28:32
But at the time I just reacted by saying, yes, I'll have a
28:34
goat. I'm trying to read it. And I held it for a while,
28:38
but I couldn't get anything off it. And he seemed to be very
28:41
pleased about this, you know, and he took it back and put it
28:45
back on his wrist, and then he said, there's no job. I'm
28:48
sorry we trailed you all this way. And he said, but if you
28:51
go downstairs, there's a taxi waiting for you at the bottom of the steps,
28:55
you know, if you go the same way you've come. And it
28:57
was only afterwards that I thought, wait a minute, When I look back
29:02
on this, I think there were no mobile phones that just were invented at
29:06
that point. And I thought, our on Earth. As he got a
29:08
taxi waiting for me, there's no phone in front of him. I didn't
29:11
see him phone form and that. And then moreover, when I got in
29:15
this taxing, the guy that was driving it was also blonde and blue eyed
29:22
and did not say a thing to me, just indicated for me. And
29:26
when I tried to pay him, when he got me back to Piccadilly Station,
29:30
he wouldn't accept the pay and just weighed me away, never spoke to
29:34
me once, And it only struck me as being extremely weird. After I
29:40
came out of that, and I look back on that now and I think,
29:42
what on earth was that all about? That sounds like you were tested
29:47
in some way. I think so. I think I was tested. It
29:52
was testing my psychometric ability. And I don't know why. I postulated that
29:59
this could be have been because he felt a bit threatened in some I wonder
30:04
if they felt threatened, because quite often, and I've done this so many
30:10
times, I believe they walk amongst us, the Nordics, and I can
30:15
always I always know. I don't know how I know. I even encountered
30:22
a girl in the schoolyard once and I knew right away. And I know
30:26
this sounds funny, but I said to it in my mind, I often
30:30
try telepathic contact with them if I feel their energy, and I said to
30:34
her, if you're not from here, scratchy nose, I actually sent her
30:40
that telepathic message. I know that sounds really silly, but that's what I
30:42
told her, and she immediately put her finger up to her nose and drew
30:45
it down her nose as soon as I sent that message to it. And
30:51
I just thought, you know, I'm not a threat, but there's something
30:55
on some spiritual level where I connect with them immediately, and I know i've
31:00
I'm in the presence of an order gut and it's happened more than once that
31:06
well, I'll say you're not from me, or are you in my mind?
31:11
And I'll get some kind of indication. And I wonder if they were
31:17
just seeing if I was a threat or something, or another suggestion that another
31:22
friend of mine who's been through similar things said to me, maybe they were
31:27
just wanting to connect with you at that time and show you they're around you.
31:32
Because at the time, I was going through a terrible time with my
31:37
then who was then my first husband, because I was in an abusive marriage
31:41
and I was trying to finish my bachelor's degree and I was really struggling with
31:48
it, and also I was in the process of thinking about getting a divorce.
31:56
So I think with all that going on, it was very difficult and
32:00
I was actually very worried I wouldn't even get my dissertation completed on time.
32:07
So there was a lot of pressure on me at that time. And I
32:09
just wonder if that was why, you know, because my dissertation had gone
32:14
in, but I wasn't sure whether it would pass or not, and I
32:17
was really worrying about quite a lot of things. And I wonder if,
32:22
again, if it was just family connecting up with me in some way or
32:25
form. In the summer of nineteen ninety five, you were called to the
32:31
garden of your home and what you described as a frightening experience. What happened,
32:37
It was very frightening at the time, but when I look back on
32:39
it, I don't think the guy meant me any harm that I encountered,
32:43
But I'll come to that. What happened was my husband. At that time,
32:46
I was a junior doctor and he was still doing his registrar. I
32:50
don't know whether they do similar in the USA, but here you have to
32:53
registrar year and train in several areas. And he was on a and E
32:58
on casualty and it was away all night, and I hated it. I
33:00
always felt a little bit vulnerable on my own as a woman anyway. But
33:07
what happened was it was away all night and i'd just spoken to him,
33:08
put the phone down on him, and suddenly there was a total blackout because
33:12
it was a wind. I think it was winter or it was coming nearer
33:16
to Autum. I can't remember now fully. Anyway, there was there was
33:21
a I think it was coming towards the end of the summer anyway, you
33:23
know, and we're starting to go into Autum, and it was starting the
33:27
nights were drawing in because they did do come in quicker in England. I
33:30
don't know about New York and the total blackout. And you'll laugh at this,
33:34
but I actually was downstairs and I saw myself in my long white nighty
33:38
and I frightened myself, thinking that's a ghost in the window. And I
33:45
went to bed and bought up in on it after giving myself a big fright,
33:49
and then I woke up and I heard like a voice in my head.
33:52
It was in my head, and they said come to the garden now.
33:55
And I was frightened because I hate the dark. I hate the dark
33:59
at the best of times. I had no candles or any torches or anything,
34:02
and I thought, no way am I coming to the garden. Whoever
34:06
you are. You can just get lost, is what I thought. You
34:09
know, especially given my history with the you know, with the previous,
34:15
with what I knew now to be the Grays, I just assumed it was
34:19
them, to be honest, and I thought, there's no way I'm coming
34:22
to the garden. You can get lost. And anyway, a few seconds
34:25
later, as I was thinking this, I got the buzzing feeling going through
34:30
my body that I usually get price being paralyzed, and it sounds like these,
34:35
for want of a better way of putting it is, I would describe
34:38
it. And it seems to hum through your whole body. I don't know
34:42
whether you've experienced similar. And I got completely paralyzed, couldn't move, and
34:46
of course I blacked out, and the usual things happened where I moved quickly.
34:52
From nighttime it was pitch black, and then suddenly it was early morning.
34:55
And then I thought, I don't know what's going on here, but
35:00
I'm going to go back to sleep. And when I fell back to sleep,
35:05
I had this really lucid dream that I was I was in my actual
35:08
house where I was, and I went down the stairs, and to me,
35:12
this was this was not a dream, This was me remembering what had
35:15
happened during the abduction, because right at the bottom of the stairs, and
35:19
I remember his face for the rest of my life, for as long as
35:22
I live, there was this guy and he was stood there and he was
35:25
masked. His nose was covered. He was in a kind of navy blue
35:30
tight fitting what appeared to be like a diver suit, and he had wrap
35:35
around eyes bigger than a human's eyes, and the irises were narrower, and
35:43
they were blue, very very vivid sea blue color, like you know,
35:46
very stiking eyes. And his hair was covered. But he seemed to be
35:52
waiting for me at the bottom of the stairs. So I went to him
35:54
quite happily. I went down the stairs, and he seemed to greet me,
36:00
seemed to greet each other as if we were all friends or something.
36:02
And I didn't feel at all threatened by him. And as this happened,
36:07
my dining room ceiling, because we had it was an open plan house,
36:10
the dining room ceiling opened up and I could see lined up. It was
36:15
like I was in going from one dimension to another. In the process of
36:21
doing that, and there were all these craft lined up. They were parked
36:25
for one for better way putting it, and there were black shiny craft and
36:30
the floor and the walls around them were all smooth, shiny black. I've
36:34
never seen anything like it on Earth ever. And they significantly were tick tack
36:39
shaped as well, and I've never forgotten that. And then after that happened,
36:45
I had, like for one to a better word, a series of
36:50
stills coming into my head, and it was like I was remembering parts of
36:53
where I'd been taken, and I was walking down a long corridor and I
36:58
was being saluted at these guards. They were dressed very similarly to him.
37:02
I was holding or he was holding me so I couldn't escape. And as
37:07
he went past, he must have been someone important because they were putting.
37:10
They were saluting him by pressing the fist to the chest. And on the
37:15
walls, I could see the flo de Lee symbol and I could see the
37:21
Celtic cross along the corridor walls, carved into these walls, into these highly
37:27
polished black walls. I remember seeing all these this Celtic symbolism and I recognized
37:34
it because we have the Flood de Leon or in our family crest, the
37:37
McAdam Crest, and it's also on the crest of the Dagrdon family who we've
37:44
come from. So I don't understand where the link might be there, But
37:49
that kind of goes back to what I was saying about. We may be
37:52
related, or there maybe DNA things going on here that I'm not aware of.
37:58
I don't know absolutely. You also share that during pregnancy with your two
38:02
sons, you were visited. What were these visitations like and how did they
38:07
affect your pregnancy. I was very frightened with my first child. With my
38:15
first son, it was I think it was the well, I know it
38:17
was the Grace because they would come and I bought one of them. I
38:22
was having a nap in my middle trimester and he came and he had this
38:28
sort of iron shaped object pointed at me and I swore profusely at him,
38:32
and I was so annoyed, and I said, leave me alone and leave
38:37
my baby alone. Because of course, by then I'd started to read things
38:39
and read that people had phantom pregnancies and they would they would find that they
38:45
were no longer pregnant, and I was terrified that they would take the thetus
38:51
as it was then growing inside me because I knew I had had a pregnancy
38:55
testament. It had all been confirmed, and I was absolutely terrified that they
39:00
were going to take my baby away. And it really upset me, you
39:05
know, I thought, what on earth they up to? But they didn't.
39:08
But I wonder if they were just checking he was okay or something.
39:12
I have no idea, but obviously they didn't take him because he's around.
39:17
He's actually around now and he's twenty five. But I was very frightened,
39:22
and the same thing happened with my second son. I was actually when I
39:29
was carrying him in my final time messed. I remember being put back in
39:34
my home we'd moved to Cumbry and by them and our first house that we
39:38
lived in when we moved up here, and they put me back in the
39:42
kitchen and I woke up under the table and I had a recall at the
39:46
beginning of the abduction were it wasn't the Grace. I feel it was the
39:52
Nordics, because his hands looked human, they look perfectly human. And I
39:55
could see the blue uniform. He was wearing a sort of navy blue type
40:00
fits in uniform, and I was I woke up in the kitchen. I
40:05
remember so vividly. You know, that was put back there when I was
40:10
carrying my second son, So I feel I was tightened with both of them.
40:15
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book Phantoms in the Night or Ets My lifelong experience of Contact with the paranormal.
42:58
Lorraine, you write about a series of contacts between March twenty twenty and
43:04
twenty twenty one. What were those like and was there a specific connection to
43:08
that time frame. I think that there was, because you know, COVID
43:15
was a massive threat and my husband was on the front line as a doctor,
43:21
a senior doctor, and could have brought that home at any time.
43:24
So I believe that first and foremost, I was told I was going to
43:28
go through a very difficult time, but that they would protect me. And
43:32
I saw a figure, at tall figure in my room during the early hours.
43:38
I caught him and he looked like an audic male in silhouette. He
43:43
had shoulder lamp hair and he was worrying. What looked like the uniform to
43:47
me is that they were a kind of curtili thing, not like the trousers
43:52
that our men were. It comes down it's a little more kind of like
43:57
men of Indian ethnicity. And I could see it was very tall and he
44:00
gave me this message, but when I reached to put the light on,
44:06
completely vanished and I actually doubted my own eyes and began to wonder if I
44:09
was going mad. And then later at the beginning of it kind of started
44:15
in April, and later at the beginning of May, I kind of encountered
44:19
that again, and they said that I was going to be taken to have
44:23
a necessary medical procedure done at that point, and I just thought I just
44:29
wrote it off. But then the usual kind of experience happened where I got
44:36
paralyzed and blacked out, and when I feel when I was returned that I
44:40
found this triangular shape on my arm, and it was it made an exact
44:45
triangle. And you could say, yes, you do get things like that
44:47
naturally with the sun and things, but not that forms a perfect triangle with
44:52
the dots, and that's what it formed, a perfect triangle. So that
44:58
happened fairly soon after to that. And then we were going to Folkston when
45:02
we were allowed to travel in the UK, and as we were going down
45:08
a black lamb rover past us and it was blacked out windows and everything,
45:14
and it made our radio fizzle out altogether, and my husband even said,
45:17
that's weird. I think he just made our radio pizzle out for some reason.
45:22
And what should have taken eight hours an eight hour journey down to Kent
45:25
from where we are in Cumbria only took six hours, and my husband just
45:30
wrote it off. But I think there was something strange there. And also
45:35
when we stopped at the London service station, I encountered a blonde male.
45:40
I felt he was some kind of nordkyty because we seemed to make contact.
45:45
Even though we didn't say anything to each other, our eyes just met and
45:51
it really stirred me out. When we're in the services and then coming back,
45:57
I was actually taken from a home tell that we stopped up midway coming
46:01
back, I was actually taken. Somebody ran at me from behind. I
46:06
could hear them, and then the buzzing started and I said, oh God,
46:10
help me, and they said the reply was your God can't help you
46:14
now, we need to take you. And that happened to me as well.
46:20
And incidentally, after I saw the man in my room, I pointed
46:23
my camera into the darkness, hoping because I could feel it his presence,
46:27
still hoping I could capture him, and I think he might have allowed me
46:30
to capture a picture of him, because I actually captured a picture of this
46:35
what I believe was an audic male. There's definitely definitely a man on there,
46:39
and he was at least seven feet tall, because you can see my
46:44
dressing table mirror comes early up to his waist. I didn't put that in
46:50
my book because when I tried to, they said that it was so dark
46:53
that it didn't come up on the print. So I said, if anybody
46:58
wants to see that, I could email to them. But I think I'm
47:02
almost I'm convinced that he allowed me to see to take that photograph because you
47:07
can definitely make out that he's there. And I sent it to a friend
47:12
of mine that's a ufologist and he said that he looks like a Nordic.
47:16
That was the first thing he said, and I didn't prompt him his face.
47:21
Yeah. Or other experiencers and abduct keyes, you share a number of
47:27
what you call long term effects of your own experiences. What are some of
47:31
those effects and why do you think they are related to the contact or abduction
47:36
experience. Some long term effects that you get are I set equipment offer airports,
47:44
some force automatic forcet taps don't work for me, and I also set
47:49
alarms off in shops and things like that, and it's very embarrassing. And
47:52
I think it's to do with some of the implants that they put in you.
47:57
And I suspect I might have one in my knee because the put people
48:00
always seem to focus on that part of me and cat and get very perplexed
48:05
when there's nothing about my person that's metal in there that I know of.
48:10
Also, you will probably become traumatized, initially mentally and possibly physically. You
48:19
may get marks upon you person. You'll be returned, you may be put
48:23
back outside or in the wrong place. I have been put back on occasion
48:28
with my clothes manity on the wrong way around or inside out that can happen
48:32
to or with marks on your clause. I've been returned with strange marks that
48:38
just will not come out with any amount of washing. Black marks on my
48:43
underwear and on my nightwere as well. I think you will get your consciousness
48:49
raised, and more importantly, I feel that your set religious beliefs will be
48:54
challenged, not that you will lose them, but they will be expanded upon.
49:00
And what I mean by that is with me certainly. I've come to
49:02
believe now that we are all one, and that we're all part of Source,
49:07
and that God isn't some man sat in the sky on a cloud.
49:13
God is in and through everything and all around us. And that's the difference,
49:16
I think, since encountering the ets, and also your consciousness is wide
49:23
and wide and in as much as you realize this Earth is just one planet
49:30
amongst many, that there are lots of et races out there, and that's
49:36
going to be a big shock, I think to a lot of people who
49:39
are still in the narrow or have a narrow idea that it's just us,
49:44
so that will get challenged as well. I've become more eco conscious. I'm
49:50
definitely more green as a result. I think I'm a more compassionate person and
49:54
that I've chosen deliberately chosen jobs that serve people, serve humanity because I wanted
50:02
to be a nurse so much, and then when I hurt my back and
50:06
couldn't be a nurse anymore, I went back to doing my teacher training,
50:08
which again is really serving humanity. And there's a shortage of teachers currently in
50:13
the UK, which is another reason I now feel that I'm being called to
50:19
do therapy canceling because of such a shortage of counselors in the UK that understand
50:24
about abductees and what we go through. So I'm thinking of doing some counseling
50:30
diplomas as we speak. You will probably see more things in the sky,
50:37
or you may see UFOs even on the ground. More. You'll have more
50:42
than your fair share of that than the average citizen. And you may have
50:46
a big dreams or look what I call lucid dreams where you are in fact,
50:52
they're not dreams at all. You're actually recovering what's happened to you during
50:57
I believe abductions. And you may react with depression towards some of it because
51:02
it can make you feel very helpless initially, but I feel now it's a
51:07
very positive thing after coming through that. So what you've described about opening and
51:14
becoming a more compassionate and serving person is something that I can identify with completely.
51:20
Oh yes, I think so definitely. Yeah. Have you had a
51:23
recent experience, Well, I had one yesterday, funny lyonel, just yesterday.
51:31
It's quite your laugh actually, because I was laughing at the irony of
51:37
it. What happened was that my son, we've gone. We lived near
51:40
the lake districts and we climb up the mountains a lot, and we because
51:45
it was such a lovely day yesterday, we climbed up a medium in size
51:47
one of Wayne right they called them the Wayne Rights, and we called to
51:52
the top and me and my son were behind my husband and we were coming
51:58
down and my son was We were talking about my experiences and for some reason,
52:02
after the awakening thing, my son came with me and he's fixed it.
52:07
He's fixated about the Plaadians and them not showing the technology. And he
52:12
was going on. He was saying, why do you always see them?
52:14
Why do I not get to see them? And why do you always encounter
52:17
these people? And I said, I don't know. One must be wired
52:21
right or something. I said, I have no idea. I said,
52:22
but if you keep moaning on, you'll never encounter them. And it was
52:25
so funny because I got a little bit fed up of him because it was
52:30
moaning along, and I went a bit in front of him, back ten
52:32
yards in front of him, and I went over a horizon. There was
52:36
this man coming towards me that this is how I perceived it anyway, and
52:42
it was very tall of what you're at all. He was at least six
52:45
foot seven. And he looked at me and he smiled at me, and
52:47
he had these piercing, slow shaped types like they have. I just got
52:54
this energy off him right away. Yeah, you're not from here. But
53:00
he smiled at me almost like he was winking at me, almost, and
53:05
then off he went past me. We got to the bottom of the hill
53:07
yesterday and I said to Adam, I said, did you say loh to
53:12
that man? He said, Mum. I said, did you see that
53:16
man in the blue shorts and the blue T shirt, the man, you
53:20
know, the man with the short gray hair and blue eye. Mum,
53:24
I've been following you all this time and there was no man. There's never
53:28
been a man. What's wrong with you? He said? Well. I
53:31
just burst out laughing, you know, because I just thought, well,
53:35
I could see him, but you couldn't. And it just it was like
53:39
yet another thing, you know, another affirmation of you will that you know
53:45
what I was saying about being wired right or something. But yeah, and
53:51
the funny thing is, and you probably laugh at this, I've had several
53:54
sightings of them around that area where I feel I've resonated, you know,
54:01
with one of them, and I think I wonder if it's something to do
54:06
with ley lines or something around that area. I don't know, you know,
54:10
why would they be there. I just don't know. So my guest
54:15
is Lorraine McAdam. Her book Phantoms in the Night or Ets my lifelong experience
54:22
of contact with the paranormal. Loraine, please tell our listeners one more time
54:25
where they can get your book and find out more about you. Well,
54:30
they can get it on Amazon USA or Amazon UK. It's also available on
54:36
six Books. And if you just google six Books and Lorraine McAdam, you
54:40
spell my name l O, dooble, r AI n E and M small
54:45
C capitual adam. If you just put that into any Amazon search engine,
54:50
it would bring my book up anyway. So I hope you will buy it
54:55
and read it, and I hope you enjoy reading it. And you're also
54:59
UNFA book. Yes, I'm on Facebook. I have a book link on
55:02
there. People can contact me on there. And I also have my email
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in the back of my book. If you get either an electronic copy or
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a physical copy, my email is in there right at the back and by
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all means do contact me and ask me questions about anything in the book.
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Lorraine, thank you so much for joining us and sharing your story and also
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confirming and acknowledging for so many of us that we are not crazy. Yeah.
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I know, it's awful, isn't it, Because this is how it
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makes you feel, and this is the reason I found the courage to come
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out and thank you for joining us on Destination Unlimited. I'm a victor the
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voice perman Have a wonderful week.