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A journey of love and recovery as America gives thanks · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  Hello, hello, hello, our wonderful, wonderful audience, each and every one of you on this Thanksgiving Day.
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  This is Dr.
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  Peter Bregen.
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  And this is Ginger Briggan.
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  And we're coming to you actually on Thanksgiving Day.
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  We ended up staying at home today.
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  We're in Florida, and we've got temperatures of around 70 degrees, which is amazing because I understand there's more snow coming to our home town up in New York State in the Finger Lakes.
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  And we thought we would do a show, just the two of us together today about Thanksgiving and its beginnings and what it means to us and about our blessings, because oh my, we have blessings, galore, to be thankful for this Thanksgiving.
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  So I'm going to ask Peter to begin.
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  I'd like to begin with the idea of what is Thanksgiving Day for.
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  It has a specific purpose.
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  Is it to thank the Indians who were helping the pilgrims survive through the winter by bringing them food and uh instructions on growing things for the following year?
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  Um was it to celebrate the um success and surviving of the pilgrims?
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  Um what was it about?
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  Well, it was a very official day, at least it became a very official day with a very specific reason for celebrating.
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  In October of 1789, many things were unfolding that would change the United States and the world forever.
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  Um, and George Washington, the newly elected president unanimously by the college, Electoral College, um, was trying to explain to the world his feelings and thoughts, and for his new proclamation on October 3rd, 1789 for Thanksgiving Day.
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  And what he had to say, I'm going to read to you the first of three paragraphs by the President of the United States of America, a proclamation, New York, October 3rd, 1789.
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  And he starts whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor.
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  And whereas both houses of Congress have by their joint committee requested me to quote to recommend to the people of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness.
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  Remember now, this is 1789 that this proclamation is issued in late in the year in October.
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  In 1781, the uh combined armies in the US on the North American continent of George Washington, the revolutionary army, the army of American independence, met with a French army that had been landed, and um awaited the arrival of the French Navy from the Caribbean, which blocked the British army under Colonel of more than 7,000 British soldiers, invincible army in Yorktown.
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  That's the key word, Yorktown, which was a relatively small town on the York River near the Chesapeake Bay, which was huge mouth opening into the Atlantic Ocean.
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  The British were our Navy was further north of Chesapeake Bay, and the presence of the French outside the Jamestown, outside of Jamestown, prevented the soldiers there, and the citizens from re-establishing their uh stores of food or ammunition, whatever else they needed.
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  So Washington was in the tremendous position of having blockaded Cornwallis.
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  How they managed to arrange this must be an interesting story.
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  Imagine without cell phones or email or anything of that kind, all messages being carried by hand and boats.
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  They managed to coordinate the arrival of the French with their own arrival with French soldiers under Lafayette and Richambu.
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  Now coming under George Washington and one combined army, blockading and bombarding, and cutting off the supplies to the great British army.
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  It was so bizarre to the British that I think they played a song as they came to surrender about uh the song was about the world upside down, turned upside down.
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  So it was for them.
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  And um then in 1783, not long after we get the Jay Treaty, named after the first um man who would become the first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court John Jay, who had made a treaty satisfactory to the U.S.
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  with the British.
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  And um the uh in 1789 itself treaty was in 83, and in 1789, the US government was actually set up for the first time as an independent internationally recognized new country.
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  And um Congress had uh actually passed legislation for 12 amendments, which became the Ten Amendments of the Bill of Rights, which enabled some of the country, some of the states who were afraid of this powerful new government to join in because the Bill of Rights provided protections to the states and to individuals.
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  Thank God for the Bill of Rights, Peter.
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  Yeah.
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  That's just amazing because we're the only country, a lot of countries have constitutions, and some of them are kind of sort of patterned after ours, although I think there are really important differences that curb freedoms in other places.
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  But wow, the Bill of Rights is just absolutely unique to America, and thank God that we have it when you think of all of the times that the Bill of Rights has stood between uh government overreach of some sort or another, and uh and citizen freedom.
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  Yes, absolutely, honey.
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  It's my understanding too.
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  And by contrast, in 1789, the French began their revolution in some ways at least trying to pattern it after the U.S.
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  revolution, but there were vast differences.
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  One difference was one man, George Washington.
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  I think that instead of the minimum minimizing him, his heroism and importance, we need to keep growing it.
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  That one man, George Washington, who was one of the few people in history who ever had an army, a successful army at the end of a revolution, or any situation where a single man controlled the army and the affection of the people, but that man didn't become a king and establish his own family line of a monarchy.
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  And Washington refused to go in that direction.
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  He went and retired back down to his um uh plantation at Mount Vernon.
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  And he said about figuring out how best to liberate his slaves, which was very unusual for anyone to do, because they were the wealth.
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  It would be like our freeing up all of our rental properties that we own, which is our source of income and future sustenance.
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  Um let's let them all go and just
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  Be on their own and take care of themselves.
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  No, I don't think so, honey.
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  Um course, this is not a very good analogy, because just occurred to me here on the radio, and I am in recovery from a stroke, but I'm getting bolder, my voice is stronger.
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  People everywhere are telling me, my gosh, you're improving.
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  I'd never have guessed you got a stroke.
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  I found out from MRI that I actually had a stroke on uh August 11 of this past year.
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  2025, just months ago.
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  And we are down in Florida in an area called the Villages, which is actually a series of villages, all originated by one wealthy family around Florida, with similar format of catering to older people, providing regular entertainment every weekend, providing many other services and newspapers and other ways of staying abreast of local information.
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  Um they're quite unique, I think.
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  And we've been enjoying it down here, and we are at the Aviv Clinic.
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  Aviv Clinic.com.
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  There it's this is a clinic that specializes in full analysis evaluation and treatment of the individual.
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  It actually for neurological injury.
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  Partly that specifically.
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  And also for just uh staying young.
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  Oh, optimized aging.
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  Optimized aging for for these older Florida residents.
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  And uh the program I'm in is especially uh tailored to uh stroke recovery of stroke victims.
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  I'm here because my wife Ginger Breggen.
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  Please don't get tired or resentful.
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  I'm asking people of my talking about ginger so much.
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  Um we do get a lot of compliments for talking about each other and just being together holding hands.
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  People would come up and say, you know what inspires us to see you two walking around holding hands and we heard that about being in love, a 25-year-old the other day who commented to his parents how sweet we were walking down the hall.
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  Inspired him about marriage, which is a big deal nowadays.
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  That's a big deal for a 25-year-old, actually.
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  And I remember one day we were walking down, I think we were on our way here, and we were walking in a convenience store, holding hands, and some gentleman on a on a motorized wheelchair came by and said, I just love to see that with married couples, etc.
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  etc.
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  He was very sweet.
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  They made a whole story about us.
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  We are a married couple, although I got very, very confused during recovery from stroke.
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  Well, actually, as you're coming out of a stroke, it can be just profoundly, profoundly disorienting to the point that that, and this was right after Peter stroked, even while we were still in the hospital.
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  He didn't recognize me.
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  Are you my ginger, the girl that I fell in love with all those years ago?
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  Actually, that wasn't what you said.
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  What did I say?
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  That is what you said when we re-found each other in 83.
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  But after your stroke, you you were afraid that I was somebody else and that you were cheating on your wife.
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  I didn't know you wanted to get that deep into I guess not.
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  You generally are more shy about it.
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  Do you want me to edit that out?
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  No.
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  Okay.
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  No.
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  And I was confused, not just from having a stroke, which was in the thalamus.
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  The thalamus lies just below the flowering of the frontal lobes and just above the spinal column.
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  It's kind of the traffic cop for the brain.
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  Well, premier is prime minister.
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  Prime Minister when one neurologist wrote about it.
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  So injury there can interfere with all kinds of various levels of instincts.
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  And also of front of the frontal lobes.
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  And memories.
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  And memory.
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  And relationship.
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  And the temporal lobe.
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  So by the way, folks, it only took a few days for Peter to really begin to re-integrate into our marriage.
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  And thank God he was thrilled to be with me, even when he didn't recognize me.
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  He said he couldn't believe his good fortune.
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  So I felt sure that the spirit is mightier than the brain.
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  Yeah, I felt very blessed because the love of my life still wanted to be with me.
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  All the other stuff could get worked out.
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  I'm just glad I was alive.
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  So glad you were alive, honey.
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  I am so blessed with you, dear.
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  And um again, this is not to boast in some way, but to encourage all of you.
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  And uh to really believe in love.
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  I think that believing in God and believing in love are very similar.
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  And that's actually you can find that in the Bible.
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  And um, and certainly discussions about what the geniuses mean about loving one another.
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  Um so uh I was reinspired coming out of this awful experience and the hospital experience was just dreadful, as it had been for my mother-in-law Jean, it was for me too.
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  And um I didn't know I'd had a stroke, they didn't tell me, but they put me on extreme under extreme control as soon as I had the stroke at night, as soon as they saw that I had had it, and um saw it confirmed on the MRI, and I had I was supposed to be bedridden and not allowed out of bed for fear that I would fall because I was confused from drugs they'd given me without my permission.
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  And uh I uh, as we have a lot often now happening on our shows.
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  Well, I challenge you to find a broader array of great voices, a deeper bench of experience or a more dedicated collection of passionate patriots than here on America Outloud.
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  Now is our time.
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  My fellow Americans, America Outlaw.news, Liberty and Justice for all.
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  And we're back with the Bregan hour with Ginger Breggan and Dr.
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  Peter Breggan.
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  Uh Peter quickly came out of the primary confusion, and we got home safely, finally, after that very difficult hospital experience.
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  We talked in last week's show when our guest was Dr.
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  Francis Christian about hospitals and how better to survive them.
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  Excuse me.
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  And that was a terrific show, which I think any of you who are tuning in and missed last week, you would enjoy it very much.
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  Now, Peter's going to return to another topic.
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  Well, I want to return to the topic of what did George Washington, why did George Washington declare a Thanksgiving proclamation on October 3rd, 1789?
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  And it was simply and straightforwardly to thank God for saving the Republic of the United States, and for helping it through so many difficult times in such remarkable ways.
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  So let me read that to you.
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  Now, therefore, I, George Washington, do recommend an assigned Thursday, the 26th day of November, to be next, to be devoted by the people of these states to the service of that great and glorious being who is the beneficent author of all those good, all that all the good that was that is and that will be that it may then all unite in that we may all in unite.
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  In rendering unto him our sincere and humble thanks for his kind care and protection of the people of this country previous to the becoming a nation for the signal and manifest mercies and the favorable interpositions of his providence, by which I think he means his influence, which we experienced in the course and conclusion of the late war, for the great degree of tranquility, union, plenty which we have since enjoyed, for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enabled to establish institutions of government for our safety, happiness, and particularly the national one now lately and able to establish institutes of government for our safety and happiness for the civil and religious liberty for which we are blessed.
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  And the means he goes on, he says, after a call semi-com and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge in general for all the great and various phases of favors which he has been pleased to confer upon us.
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  And then he has another separate paragraph, and also that we may then unite most humbly, offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and ruler of nations, and beseech him to pardon our national and other transgressions, dash to enable us all, whether in public or private situations to perform our several and relative duties properly and punction punctually to render our national government a blessing to all the people by constantly being a government of wise, just and constitutional laws, discreetfully and faithful, faithfully executed and obeyed, to protect and guide.
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  Now, and this is interesting.
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  This is a real switch.
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  This is where we he wants us to become the shining city on a hill that Reagan spoke about by constantly being a government of wise and just and constitutional laws, discreetly and favorably executed and obeyed, and this is the part I want you to really think about to protect and guide all sovereigns and nations, especially such as have shown kindness unto us, and to bless them with good government, peace and concord.
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  This is America with its own style of imperial ambition to make the world a better place, which is always very dangerous because it is an empirical ambition, which much more can be said.
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  And the goal of Thanksgiving then becomes to promote the knowledge and practice, because this is the goal of our good government that he's being thanking God for, to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increase of science among them and us, and generally to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as he alone knows to be best.
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  Given under my hand at the city of New York, where Congress was meeting, and where the government was.
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  It was New York and then Philadelphia, and then Washington.
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  So given under my hand at the city of New York, the third day of October in the year of our Lord, 1789, George Washington.
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  Now, this was then printed as huge posters and distributed around the country and mailed to every governor as a letter from the president, declaring Thanksgiving Day.
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  And it's a treasure owned by numerous different groups and libraries around the country who have you mean the broad sheets that were printed up.
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  Yeah, they call them broad sheets because of their size.
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  Well, I'd love to have one of those, honey, on our wall.
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  I mean, this says so much about we still have another paragraph or two, but I think um well, not much more.
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  No, you don't.
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  You just read George Washington, that's the end, Peter.
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  That's the end of it.
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  Yep.
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  And um I've just been looking at this for a couple of hours.
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  I've seen it a long time ago.
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  Now actually, you talked about this years and years ago in Michael Savage.
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  Those were an interesting time when I was on Michael Savage.
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  Like 2008, 2009, around that time.
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  We should we should send him a note at some point and say, by the way, remember when I was a kind of left wing confused.
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  No, no, but not by that time, Peter.
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  You were reading about the founders, and you were I was writing You were very conservative by then.
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  You were reading voraciously about the founders.
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  Um I was writing while I'm an American.
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  That's right.
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  You were writing while I'm an American.
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  If I'm gonna push a book right now, that's what it would be, folks.
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  It's on Amazon.
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  Peter wrote the book, Wow I'm an American.
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  How to live like our heroic founders.
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  That's right.
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  And it was the uh idea of what we can surmise about their mindsets and their values, and how we can emulate the very best of what they brought to America and to civilization.
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  And uh from that I developed the five principles, which should probably be my next book now.
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  And the first of the principles uh was to take responsibility at all times, and um I have another new principle that I was too shy to to introduce back then, and the first principle now is dare to trust in a loving God, and it's so appropriate to Thanksgiving and to George Washington.
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  Um Washington was most remarkable in this regard, and he was treated most remarkably in the world by reality.
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  It's like he created his own reality with his trust and a loving God.
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  It was it proved that sharp shooters and groups of shooters alike were unable to shoot George Washington repeatedly.
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  This occurred, um, to the bafflement of Native American Indian chiefs and soldiers on the opposite side of Washington and the French and Indian War.
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  Peter and how old was he in the French and Indian War?
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  Wasn't he just practically a teenager?
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  He was early 20s.
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  And he was already a commanding officer of some rank, wasn't he?
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  Yeah, I think he was maybe a colonel in the um Holy Crow in the uh Virginia um militia, and um the head of the militia was shot down, and I think his horse shot from under him, and Washington on his big white horse took over.
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  And he was very tall, he really stood out on a battlefield very much.
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  And then he had a white horse that was like illuminating where he was.
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  And just to add to the drama of it all, with a black man beside him on his own large horse.
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  That's right, who is his best friend and his keeper of his letters and his important communications, um he later freed in his will.
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  Um they must have been quite a sight that would go to that one point.
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  There was a rebellion within these troops, where the northerners were actually fighting the southerners and the uh Washington's army, and he and his slave went down and broke the fight up individually, um and uh something else I talk about in while I'm an American this relationship, which doesn't appear in most of our early history teachings, um that the person he was closest to during the war was an African American, his own slave, crazy kinds of relationships of slavery created, that make no sense by any human value.
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  Human beings create attachment with each other, Peter, yeah.
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  Under the strangest of circumstances, sometimes.
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  A lot of the or some, I should say, but some of the great Greek philosophers and um and um Roman ones were slaves too, who brought up the children really and taught them in some cases, um Epictetus, who was uh you know, you're gonna lose a lot of us who never finished college.
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  Or never never were told much truth about things.
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  I didn't get it.
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  I'm afraid I never got into the Greeks and the Romans.
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  Well, I got I got into this uh by the way, I was referring to myself, folks, not our wonderful audience.
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  Um I got into this all on my own when uh I
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  I was told by some republicans that I was working with in uh fighting psychosurgery all these years ago.
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  And they asked me about my politics, and I told them that I thought I was a liberal, or I was a liberal.
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  I must have said I was a liberal.
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  And well, what do you define a liberal?
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  And I talked about human rights, and they said you're a conservative and not a liberal.
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  Wow.
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  But how does that relate to the um philosophers?
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  I started reading about the ancient philosophers.
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  That's when you started reading about them.
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  Yeah, when I started reading about history in the new way.
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  Wow.
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  But I'd had the advantage of some introduction to American history and literature that, however.
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  Well, I did too in high school in the 60s, which was still really good back then in the 60s, folks, high school in Indiana, anyway.
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  There was good high school education back then.
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  I bumped into other people my age who uh are from heartland regions, and they feel they received really excellent education too.
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  It's um unfortunate how education has devolved, and we hope to see that get turned around mightily in this country because it helps to make the best kinds of citizens who can evaluate and not be frightened of what they see as life travels on.
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  And who can actually join in Thanksgiving for what it was intended, which was thanking God for allowing the United States of America to survive.
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  And to do it and to survive everything since then, too.
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  Yeah.
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  When we think about what this country has been um challenged by.
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  Absolutely.
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  I mean, I think we're actually barely surviving a lot right now.
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  And we still have a long way to go.
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  We've we've got a lot of dissension and uh I think a lot of uh hidden hidden mal um uh malevolence toward the constitutional country that we need to be on guard.
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  Just today is news brought broke about John Brennan, the former head of the CIA, who was so important in um enabling um Russia Gate and uh these violent really vicious and unfair attacks on the president.
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  Intelligence community attacks against President Trump.
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  That there he's being accused of inspiring revolution now, and um he may be doing it to try to head off indictments against him for some of these criminal activities against the president.
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  So the long knives are still out, folks.
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  Yeah, lots up in the air.
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  But that's the kind of times that call on special individuals to come forth.
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  And one of the things that I'm most thankful for is how many times I believe God has brought out special individuals like George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King, and others to really help our country survive her crises at that moment.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  I get quiet thinking about it.
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  Those are my heroes, folks, and of course they were all assassinated.
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  Um yeah, I made me think about what would be the second tier of those kinds of individuals.
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  And I I think in our own freedom move health freedom movement.
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  Oh my gosh.
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  Who have become heroic, all the doctors who resisted being forced to or just being just being told to uh give vaccinations and earlier to shut up about criticizing them, and and to shut up about criticizing all of the uh uh the oppressive COVID measures that were being brought into place as a fear campaign.
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  We have we have so much to be thankful for just in the last five or six years, and it's been such an honor and a privilege to get to know uh the doctors that we've been able to uh meet at least via Zoom and to work with and to interview on our radio show and the other professionals also and thinkers whom um we've just for years now, uh, since 2020 talked with and talked with about COVID and freedom and all of that.
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  Well, in the Aviv Clinic, we're meeting um such great professionals down here.
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  And Aviv itself is very well revolutionary, it's uh uh really looking in a whole different way of helping to heal brain injury because it historically it was thought if a brain injury occurred, you couldn't get any better from it.
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  But what the premise is and what the uh researchers have found is that you can't necessarily bring back cells that have actually died, but all those little cells around them that are injured by that death of its fellows, all those other cells that are injured, can stop their death spirals, which they go into and reverse and start to improve.
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  And this does bring about uh miracle recoveries.
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  Uh this is this is in uh using hyper hyperbaric pressure treatment, which is in this case, they they uh began their pioneers in large rooms for doing this to with large numbers of people.
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  So every day I go into what looks exactly oh, not exactly, but very much like the interior of the fusilars of an airplane.
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  I often look up, and it seems like this lights showing through the windows, and I'm wondering where the airplane is now.
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  That's also probably part of my damage.
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• 38:31
  And we're back with Bregan Hour with Dr.
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  Peter Briggan and Ginger Bregan, uh airing on America Outloud.news, airing later as a podcast, airing also on Progressive Radio PRN.fm and going to podcast platforms everywhere.
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  So Peter.
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  I think we should count our blessings.
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  It's Thanksgiving.
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  That's that's what to do, and to thank God for our blessings.
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  Dare to believe in a loving God, it will change your life, folks.
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  Why do I say dare?
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  Because there's so many internal blocks that I had to overcome to make that one of my primary principles, like the ridicule of people on the left being one of them.
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  My own um the ridicule from the whole intellectual community, Peter, really.
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  I mean, uh, I never ran into intellectuals in the upper education that I did have that at all affirmed God in any way.
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  So it takes a courage, a daring for me in ginger, it's taken a courage.
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  And daring to see what happens when we turn to and believe in a loving God.
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  And I mean a loving God.
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  I mean a God who takes joy in our being happy and successful.
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  And I don't mean the old testament God.
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  Um who is a very angry, punishing, controlling figure, as was the model for a father in those years.
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  Patriarchy.
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  I don't mean that kind of a God.
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  But an empathic God.
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  Caring God.
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  Um and um I find it incredibly helpful.
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  Um I realized I was coming out of a brain injury that had profoundly confused me.
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  I set my priority on loving Ginger more than ever after all this confusion about who she even was.
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  I suddenly was like when I first met her, it was like remeeting her.
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  Amazing story.
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  And all of a sudden, uh the love I felt for her was larger than I even remembered being so overwhelmed by when I was young.
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  And then I got a new insight when I realized that she had just set aside the rest of her life to get me proper help and found some really good help down here.
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  Um and I realized what a blessing and that probably what I was so stunned by when I first met her.
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  I've always talked until this day on the air about how much I loved her and it freaked me out, and I didn't see her again for 10 years, and it was as if God just put us together 10 years later, because we met on the opposite sides of the country from where we were.
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  We met when I went to Los Angeles to go on a local LA TV show, 10 years after we first met, and uh on the East Coast, and um I tried to kind of prepare myself by saying that I would just never be an angry, injured old man, I would just never do that to her, and boom, I was like, it was like meeting her all over again and coming out of the confusion and just loving her and feeling so grateful that she or anyone under God's hand would give her the job of taking care of me as she has done so very well since the stroke, and thank you for that as I do every day, honey.
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  You're very welcome, Peter.
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  You're not an angry frustrated old man at all.
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  You're just a miracle.
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  He's um Peter is really exemplified the principles that he's lived by even after such a severe injury because he is very patient with me and patient with his condition, and again and again I see moments that would that could just so frustrate a human being, and he just sets it aside and sets it aside, and you're just amazing, Peter.
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  Thank you, honey.
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  Well, I'm so grateful to be with you every day, and you're my biggest blessing too, sweetheart.
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  And then I think after that, our family and friends are the people that we know all over the world who have loved us and appreciated our work and appreciated your work for 60 plus years, and have um lifted you up and supported you in rough times, and all of you whom we've never met who have found Peter's books or one of the books that we wrote together, or and those of you who bought our COVID book, COVID-19 and the Global Predators, We Are the Prey, which is so much more than just the COVID years, it's really uh the attempt to take over the world in uh in this new century, and what we can all do about it, how we need to recognize it, and then what we can do to um back the world off from some sort of monstrous uh domination, and we're just I'm just grateful, and I know Peter is too for every single person who's written to us and appreciates our work and listens to our radio shows.
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  It's we're we're just blessed.
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  I think also we're blessed, Peter, and I have found after COVID, we ended up, I ended up staying inside a lot more.
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  I didn't get out with nature, and I've been thinking again about nature, and we were talking the other night about all the nature stories that you have to share, and I am finding myself newly appreciative of every little bird and every little lizard.
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  There are lizards in Florida, folks.
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  They're little teeny tiny things, some of them aren't even two inches long, tiny little graceful creatures sitting on a rock or running across a porch, and they all scare Bella, my Yorkie, who's six pounds.
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  She sees a lizard and she jumps.
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  She's very uh nervous about them.
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  But uh they're they're very cute, actually.
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  We used to have skinks in our uh at our cabin up in Lake Anna when we were in Virginia years ago, decades ago.
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  So they're they're very cute too, but we've had amazing experiences with the almost like the humanity of animals over the decades, and when I say that, what I guess I mean is the scent the sentience, the awareness of other that animals can express, and I find that endlessly charming to see that in our dogs, in our sweet dogs, or in other creatures.
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  I think that's one of the biggest positive draws of social media, like TikTok or Instagram are these or you know, X are these sweet little videos of animals responding positively in one way or another to human beings, and to each other, and to each other, yeah.
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  Yeah, Ginger regales me almost every evening with uh downloads from TikToks that she saved up to show me.
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  Um last night, uh one of them was a video of a woman saying hello to her mule, and was it a mule?
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  Is that what that is, or is that that's I think larger animal it was a mule or a donkey, and I'm not sure I know the difference.
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  I think it was a mule, Peter.
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  I think it was a mule, big with a big mouth and a big laugh.
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  She says hello to the to the mule, and the mule gives out a large, large laugh, sort of a hee-how laugh.
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  Yeah.
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  That goes on and on, recognizing her.
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  And there's a whole series you showed me of people saying hi to their buffalo or their cows or whoever.
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  Turkeys.
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  Yeah, he says hello to the turkeys, and they all gobble back.
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  This is like huge flock of turkeys, and then there was a tiny little clip of a woman walking along with about 50 ducks running behind her, following following her, yeah.
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  Imprinted on her.
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  And um the final one of my five principles.
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  Um, the first one was take responsibility at all times.
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  Second was uh to be grateful for your gifts and opportunities, and um the number one now at the top of my website, our website, pregnan.com, is uh you know, dare to believe in a loving God.
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  That's what I was talking about with this train of thought.
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  I do get off and lose track of the solid logical machinery of speaking on a coherent subject unwinding it through themes.
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  It makes life very interesting, honey.
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  You never know what I'm gonna talk about next.
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  It makes radio shows very interesting, folks.
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  I hope.
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  But now I've lost uh that sense of what I wanted to say.
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  You were talking about the five principles and how they relate to the love of nature, yeah.
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  And then nature is onto that subject, and the final one of the principles is become a source of love.
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  I think the single most important thing I've learned as a therapist is to open your heart to loving.
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  And by loving, I mean experiencing the world and its people and animals and.
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  Plants and trees.
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  I love trees.
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  Um, I actually grow trees and plume them and watch them get bigger and bigger than me and take great great pride and joy in it.
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  People tease me about it.
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  My house is surrounded by seedlings.
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  Trees that once were seedlings.
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  Oh my god, and I'm blocking on the name of it.
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  Red buds.
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  Red bud trees, which have heart-shaped leaves that are blood red, heart shaped leaves when they're young.
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  When they first when they first sprout.
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  Open up on the trunk.
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  And uh then their buds are really unique in that they're red, very bright red and they come out on the uh actual bark of the tree rather than hanging as traditional blossoms, too.
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  And if you're driving along in DC or anywhere there were the weather's summer warmer, and you'll see these red bud trees, and you won't know without looking up close that they have heart-shaped leaves, and that the buds are all coming out off the bark directly.
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  Very different.
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  And um, I have a hedge of them that I've groomed over the years down the driveway, and there are probably dozens of them that were seedlings from it.
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  A couple of old, old, old wonderful trees around our neighborhood, and I've let them grow up in ideal spots they took naturally too, and pruned them, and they're six to fifteen feet, twenty feet tall now.
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  He has about 50 red bud trees on our property now.
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  It's really beautiful.
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  I'm glad you enjoy them.
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  So our lives are going well, and um then plenty of reasons to sort of you know get discouraged.
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  Getting uh having a stroke is discouraging, but when we when Ginger looked at ginger without initially sharing it with me, Lent and looked up the kind of stroke I have, which is to this area called the thalamus, and you can get almost anything from being paralyzed completely on one side to having a lobotomy like syndrome to having problems over eating and over with any instinct, and um it's uh infamous for the variety of problems, serious problems it causes.
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  It's sort of mucking up a center of the brain, a major center, and uh I have some of everything, but it's none of it is uh overwhelming, it's all handleable with ginger's home and the therapist, physical therapist I work with on the physical issues.
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  Um the uh so open your heart to taking joy in the people around you and the life around you, and start believing that there is a loving God who is interested in being there for people, and um try that as an experiment.
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  I mean, for me, it's been an experiment because my rational mind doesn't like this kind of idea.
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  People have trouble with it.
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  I just started reading a book about that one of my clients, Patience was reading about um the subconscious, and this author, psychologist, treated the subconscious like God, but wouldn't see it.
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  Obviously, he wanted to stay with the secular life and viewpoint, but he viewed the unconscious as something you could appeal to and you know give your affirmations to.
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  I want to be this way or that way, being very careful, what you wish for because you really might get it, and it might come in a strange way because it is your subconscious, not your consciousness work, and I realized that he was treating without having any any awareness of it, his subconscious as a loving God, which is an interesting psychological approach.
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  The subconscious is God's back door to our hearts.
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  Well, that is amazing.
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  Thank you.
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  Just like uh hackers build back doors into computers and servers and so forth.
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  God has a back door into us.
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  The subconscious.
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  Don't be afraid to be with a woman who's smarter than you, pure guy or more creative than you in some ways, or more ethical than you in a lot of ways.
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  Um I think that was probably what I had to overcome.
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  But the main thing I realized, I was always proud and prided myself in how much I love ginger from the beginning.
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  But what I realized that what really scared me was being loved by ginger because I had no such experience is to meet this.
• 55:42
  Oh, yeah, that's actually where you got where you started, and we've got 40 seconds left, but you changed your story after your stroke about your reaction to our very initial meeting.
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  Yeah.
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  You thought that it was because you were afraid of how much you actually love me because that was coming across to me post-stroke, the way you were taking care of me and talking about how much you love me.
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  I'd say thank you for loving me, and you say, Oh no, no.
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  Don't thank me for that.
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  Things like that.
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  Yeah.
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  And it would be uh I'm just thankful you're here, Peter.
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  And boy, are you here?
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  It's amazing.
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  You may be Peter Briggan 2.0, but you're worth every minute.
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  And we are out of time.
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  God bless us all.
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  God bless us all.
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  Happy Thanksgiving week.
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  Happy Thanksgiving week and try a little loving and a little as they all songs.
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  Trying.
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  It's a miracle worker.
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  Good night, folks.