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Angels/Anthony Rendon early divorce, Brewers payroll dilemma, Reds flex options, Yankees 2026 WS odds · Foul Territory

0:04
Speaker 1: We've got some breaking news, Alden Gonzalez reporting that the
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Speaker 1: Angels and Anthony Rendon are and talks about buying out
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Speaker 1: the final year of his contract. This according to one
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Speaker 1: of Alden's sources, and the expectation is that Anthony Rendon
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Speaker 1: will retire. What an era this one has been. This
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Speaker 1: would have been the last year of a seven year,
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Speaker 1: two hundred and forty five million dollar contract. It is
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Speaker 1: easily one of the worst contracts in Major League Baseball history.
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Speaker 1: He didn't play much, he didn't contribute much. Kevin Polar
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Speaker 1: played with him for a season with the Angels. What
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Speaker 1: do you think about this? Dude, you experienced Anthony Rendon,
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Speaker 1: who I think is somewhat misunderstood. I covered him for
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Speaker 1: years when he was with the Nationals. I mean, the
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Speaker 1: easy way to put it is, doesn't love baseball. Nice,
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Speaker 1: chill guy to be around your thoughts.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was his teammate in Anaheim. I didn't really
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Speaker 2: get a chance to be on the field them very
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Speaker 2: much because he was also hurt that year. But yeah,
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Speaker 2: I think Anthony Rendon is one of the most misunderstood players,
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Speaker 2: maybe of all time. And he's very outspoken in his beliefs.
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Speaker 2: But he's not saying anything that most I wouldn't say
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Speaker 2: most that some other players aren't saying. People forget that baseball.
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Speaker 2: To a lot of us, yes, we do love it
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Speaker 2: and it's and we're passionate about it. But at the
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Speaker 2: end of the day, it is a job and the
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Speaker 2: joy for a lot of people. When you get to
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Speaker 2: the major league some of it is taken away from you.
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Speaker 2: I felt it towards the end of my career. I
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Speaker 2: was very passionate about being a baseball player. I love
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Speaker 2: the game of baseball. Part of the reason I'm still
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Speaker 2: sitting here talking baseball is because I do love it.
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Speaker 2: But does some of the joy get taken away from
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Speaker 2: you when you get into the business side of baseball,
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Speaker 2: and at any given day you can be released or
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Speaker 2: you can be traded, and you feel like you have
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Speaker 2: a value and it's not reached that So, yes, it
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Speaker 2: is a job, and not all of us loves show
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Speaker 2: going up to our job every day. And Anthony Rendon
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Speaker 2: just happened to be one of those guys who was
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Speaker 2: super super talented at baseball, and probably early on in
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Speaker 2: his life in order to get to Rice University and
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Speaker 2: through his time at Rice, university, worked extremely hard to
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Speaker 2: be one of the best players in baseball, was drafted
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Speaker 2: second overall. You know, won a World Series with the Nationals.
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Speaker 2: You know, jumped on the scene as one of the
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Speaker 2: best right handed hitters in baseball. And it's very unfortunate that,
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Speaker 2: you know, his time with the Angels was not good.
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Speaker 2: Like you said, to put it bluntly, it's going to
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Speaker 2: go down as one of the worst contracts of all time.
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Speaker 2: And you know, we are in the season of the
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Speaker 2: holiday season, and I think we talked about on the
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Speaker 2: show earlier, you know what we're thankful for, and I
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Speaker 2: think both sides are very thankful for this to happen.
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Speaker 2: The Angels are thankful to finally move on from Anthony Rendon,
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Speaker 2: hopefully get a little bit of payroll flexibility, and Anthony
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Speaker 2: Rendon is just very thankful that the Angels are willing
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Speaker 2: to do this where he no longer has to show
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Speaker 2: up to a place that he doesn't want to be anymore.
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Speaker 2: He wants to be at home with his family, donate
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Speaker 2: to his church, and go out and farm, because that's
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Speaker 2: really what he's passionate about.
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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of people that can associate
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Speaker 3: with Anthony Rendon in the sense that you know what,
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Speaker 3: they might not like their job, it's not an excuse
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Speaker 3: to not go out and do it.
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Speaker 4: I don't care what your job is. Like.
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Speaker 3: The biggest thing that an employer, because he's an employee,
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Speaker 3: needs needs to expect from his employees is good effort
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Speaker 3: and a good attitude. Now, if you don't have those things,
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Speaker 3: I don't care. If you're the best at your job,
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Speaker 3: no matter what the job is, employer is not going
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Speaker 3: to be too pleased.
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Speaker 4: And I think if.
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Speaker 3: He would have gone out and played to his fullest extent,
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Speaker 3: in the sense of he's out there every day, he's
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Speaker 3: playing through injuries, then I think we could get him
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Speaker 3: a little bit of a break. But when when somebody
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Speaker 3: says they don't enjoy baseball, or they don't they don't
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Speaker 3: enjoy being they would rather do other things, I get that.
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Speaker 3: But it's afforded him the opportunity to be able to
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Speaker 3: do those other things, to be able to farm, to
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Speaker 3: be able to like nobody's holding a gun to your
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Speaker 3: head to play baseball. You don't have to play baseball.
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Speaker 3: You can go and find a different job. And I
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Speaker 3: think I think the fact that his career will be
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Speaker 3: marred by the fact that he signed this contract and
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Speaker 3: people don't feel like he gave his best effort. I
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Speaker 3: think it is going to completely overshadow what an incredibly
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Speaker 3: talented player. He was home hit an opposite field home
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Speaker 3: run against US in spring training when I was at
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Speaker 3: the Phillies, So it had to be somewhere in like
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Speaker 3: twenty eleven, twelve thirteen, somewhere in there, right out of Rice,
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Speaker 3: and I was like, Wow, how that.
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Speaker 4: Guy hit an opposite field home run?
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Speaker 3: And Joe Savory went to and he knew about Anthony
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Speaker 3: Rendon and this guy is He goes, this guy is
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Speaker 3: the one of the most unassuming opposite field power bats
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Speaker 3: that you will ever see, And I was like, whoa relax, Joe,
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Speaker 3: like that is That's well? He was spot on. He
5:14
Speaker 3: couldn't have been more spot on, and it's a shame
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Speaker 3: that his career ended this way, especially when he signed
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Speaker 3: over at the Angels. Twenty twenty was the COVID year.
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Speaker 3: I think he was tenth in MVP voting, so it
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Speaker 3: was coming off and after that. Before that, he was
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Speaker 3: third in MVP voting in twenty nineteen for the World
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Speaker 3: Champion National, so there's extreme levels of talent in there,
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Speaker 3: and it just it sucks that these last you know,
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Speaker 3: this contract ended the way that he did. And maybe
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Speaker 3: he'll say it was injuries. People from the outside would say,
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Speaker 3: maybe it wasn't all the injuries. Maybe it was more
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Speaker 3: the you know, lack of desire to show up every
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Speaker 3: single day, which you have to do in the sport
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Speaker 3: of baseball.
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Speaker 1: If you spent any semblance of time with him or
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Speaker 1: around those that know him well, you would know from
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Speaker 1: a very early time in his major league career that
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Speaker 1: he did not like the major league life. That is
7:12
Speaker 1: a fact, right. You guys were players. I was a
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Speaker 1: reporter back then. I would cover like him and others
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Speaker 1: in the postseason, and you would hear that from him.
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Speaker 1: He was pretty open about it, right, I Mean, he
7:22
Speaker 1: wasn't walking around like fuck this, fuck that, but it
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Speaker 1: was more just like, yeah, like and I don't care,
7:27
Speaker 1: this is not that important to me, And I think
7:29
Speaker 1: KP that is part of what made him so incredible
7:32
Speaker 1: early in his career, Like he'd step up there the
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Speaker 1: ultimate low heartbeat. I truly don't care what happens here.
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Speaker 1: I just know that I'm really good and I'm going
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Speaker 1: to do my work. What changed is he signs the
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Speaker 1: big contract and just really said I'm not into this.
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Speaker 1: Body breaks down a little bit too. And he's always
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Speaker 1: had injuries. I mean that was part of what didn't
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Speaker 1: make him say a number one pick. I think he
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Speaker 1: was a little lower, like six or something like that
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Speaker 1: out of Rice because he had injuries there too. But
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Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is this is a guy
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Speaker 1: that did sign a big deal and then you basically
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Speaker 1: never heard from him again.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean I played with him a long time ago.
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Speaker 2: He hasn't really changed to who he was as a
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Speaker 2: person and how he felt about baseball. I honestly was
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Speaker 2: really shocked when he became a free agent and he
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Speaker 2: signed the seven year deal. I thought he would be
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Speaker 2: a guy that would front load the heck out of
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Speaker 2: his contract, maybe sign a three or four year deal,
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Speaker 2: maybe five at the moke so he can get his
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Speaker 2: ten years. I don't really know how important that was
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Speaker 2: to him, but I saw him frontloading a deal for
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Speaker 2: like two or three years, make it a ton of money,
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Speaker 2: riding off in the sunset. But to Crassey's point, you know,
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Speaker 2: when you go out and you sign a big deal
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Speaker 2: and a lengthy deal for an organization, you owe it
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Speaker 2: to them to put your best foot forward. And I
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Speaker 2: don't believe people inside of that clubhouse, people in that
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Speaker 2: front office ownership group, believe that Anthony Rendome put his
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Speaker 2: best effort every single day when he shut up. You know,
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Speaker 2: none more evident than last year. Yes, did he have
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Speaker 2: a hip surgery. Yes, you can look at medical records
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Speaker 2: and stuff. Did he actually have a surgery. But the
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Speaker 2: fact that he never showed up at spring training at
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Speaker 2: the Angels Complex, never really checked in in Anaheim with
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Speaker 2: the medical staff, kind of stayed at home and kind
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Speaker 2: of did his own rehab, And maybe because of his
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Speaker 2: lengthy injury history, he felt like, I need to get
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Speaker 2: away from the team. I need to do what's best
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Speaker 2: for me. Anthony Rendon rehab with my own people. But
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Speaker 2: if I'm an employer and this is one of my employees,
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Speaker 2: I'd like him to be around the team. I'd like
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Speaker 2: to check in with him, make sure he's doing everything
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Speaker 2: in his power to get back on the field, because
9:36
Speaker 2: we gave him a large investment to be part of
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Speaker 2: our organization and help turn things around. So you know,
9:43
Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying Cratsey, like, you gave this
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Speaker 2: guy a ton of money to kind of go side
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Speaker 2: by side with Trout and try to take this organization
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Speaker 2: to places you thought that they can get to with
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Speaker 2: these two guys kind of anchoring the middle of your lineup.
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Speaker 2: No one says these things about Trout by the way.
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Speaker 2: He's had injuries over the last couple of years, but
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Speaker 2: he's passionate, he cares, he's around the team. I was
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Speaker 2: with him during his injury. I saw how hard he
10:08
Speaker 2: worked to try to come back. So I think when
10:10
Speaker 2: you were very vocal about not wanting to play and
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Speaker 2: not loving the sport, taking all this money and then
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Speaker 2: not really putting your best foot forward to at least
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Speaker 2: go out there and try to post. People are gonna
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Speaker 2: have a problem with.
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Speaker 3: It, and physically sometimes you can't be on the field.
10:25
Speaker 3: Adam Wainwright said, one of the one of the toughest
10:29
Speaker 3: years for Hims but for him, but also one of
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Speaker 3: the one of the most rewarding years was the year
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Speaker 3: he had Tommy John surgery. He had to get the surgery,
10:39
Speaker 3: and then every day after he was done his rehab,
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Speaker 3: he was able to invest in his teammates. He was
10:44
Speaker 3: able to invest in those relationships. When you pay a
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Speaker 3: guy two hundred million dollars, When you pay a guy
10:50
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty million dollars, she probably when you
10:52
Speaker 3: pay a guy thirty million dollars, your expectation is, yes,
10:56
Speaker 3: they're gonna be able to do some things on the field,
10:58
Speaker 3: but the impact that they have on the entire roster,
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Speaker 3: the entire organization is going to come back to that
11:05
Speaker 3: team four fold. And that's how and that's how you
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Speaker 3: prove your worth in a contract. Sometimes physically you just
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Speaker 3: can't do it. Sometimes you can't even get on the field.
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Speaker 3: But man, you can show up every day with a
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Speaker 3: great attitude and really lift up your teammates and really
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Speaker 3: lift up those people. And so for me to hear
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Speaker 3: that he was hurt and didn't show up to spring
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Speaker 3: training feelings hurt or not, like.
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Speaker 4: There's there's a value.
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Speaker 3: There's a value add there when you're a person that
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Speaker 3: wants to be around other people and help lift them up.
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Speaker 4: And it's tough. It's tough when you hear when you
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Speaker 4: hear stories like that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember the discrepancy and the team never
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Speaker 1: backed down saying that he had a shin bruise. I
11:46
Speaker 1: think this was twenty twenty three and rind O inside
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Speaker 1: said it was a fracture. I mean, that gets a
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Speaker 1: little crazy. There's not a lot we can do on
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Speaker 1: the commenting front. We're not privy to that medical information.
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Speaker 1: But when the team's coming out that steadfatt, it does
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Speaker 1: get interesting. You don't see that very often.
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Speaker 2: And hey, I.
12:04
Speaker 1: Mean I have quotes. I'm looking back at Perrimanas the
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Speaker 1: GM years back saying I think he's gonna win comeback
12:10
Speaker 1: player the year after one of his years. So it
12:11
Speaker 1: was a last season. Ron Washington, when he first got
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Speaker 1: the job, spoke on our show and said one of
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Speaker 1: his first phone calls is to rend own. It's not
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Speaker 1: like the Angels gave up on him right away, and
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Speaker 1: they backed him publicly quite a bit. So this finally
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Speaker 1: gets to the divorce phase with one year to spare,
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Speaker 1: and I think we should end it this way, KP,
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Speaker 1: because you spent time with the Angels. How valuable is
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Speaker 1: it for them to get the closure here a year early?
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Speaker 1: It did feel like it was a dark cloud over
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Speaker 1: the team in a certain aspect, right, and it could
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Speaker 1: have gotten ugly this year where he doesn't want to
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Speaker 1: play clearly, and he would have to just kind of
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Speaker 1: be there and show up and do his thing. And
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Speaker 1: it's just I don't know if you want to call
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Speaker 1: it dead weight, but thirty eight million dollars oh this season,
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Speaker 1: thirty five years old, doesn't want to play the game.
12:53
Speaker 1: They probably will do some deferrals that'll open up a
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Speaker 1: little bit of payroll for this season. So this is
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Speaker 1: a huge win for Angels and for Angels players, right.
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Speaker 2: It's a huge win. And honestly, I think it's potentially
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Speaker 2: a year too late. You know, when he had that
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Speaker 2: hip surgery and potentially he was going to miss the
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Speaker 2: entire year. And sometimes you don't know until you know,
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Speaker 2: because you know, I was there the year before and
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Speaker 2: even though Anthony Rendon was hurt, he was around. Like
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Speaker 2: I said, you don't know until you know. And then
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Speaker 2: an entire year where he's not around, and then he
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Speaker 2: has no reason not to be there next year because
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Speaker 2: he is healthy. Maybe you learn from his absence this
13:31
Speaker 2: year that maybe it was this dark cloud that they
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Speaker 2: needed to get rid of. Maybe there's if he shows up,
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Speaker 2: you know, what kind of player is he going to be?
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Speaker 2: Does he even want to be there? What kind of
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Speaker 2: work ethic he's going to be. The Angels are trying
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Speaker 2: to change their culture a little bit. You know. They
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Speaker 2: brought in a young manager, Kurt Suzuki, who probably just
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Speaker 2: doesn't want to have to deal with this sort of
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Speaker 2: thing his first time being a manager. It's long overdue.
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Speaker 2: Good for the Angels, you know, whether they get some
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Speaker 2: financial flexibility, that's one thing. Guess that would help their
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Speaker 2: organization go out and get some better players. But did
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Speaker 2: not have to deal with him being in spring training,
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Speaker 2: maybe potentially influencing some of the younger players to know,
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Speaker 2: not go hard in drills, or not take ground balls,
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Speaker 2: or not do certain things, or learn from him in
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Speaker 2: maybe a negative way. It's long overdue, and hopefully it's
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Speaker 2: something that the Angels do have a dark pass of
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Speaker 2: having signings not work out. It goes way beyond Anthony Rendon,
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Speaker 2: So hopefully this is somewhere where they could kind of
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Speaker 2: just move forward and not be a little gun shy
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Speaker 2: when it signing some guys to long term deals in
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Speaker 2: the future.
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Speaker 1: Last note here in spring training, when it was announced
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Speaker 1: that he was getting hip surgery, Ken Rosenthal did report
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Speaker 1: there was no insurance on that contract ever, and that
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Speaker 1: owner Ardi Morino does not do that for his players
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Speaker 1: because of the cost of that insurance, and he ends
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Speaker 1: up at about twenty five percent of games played over
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Speaker 1: over five years now six years, I guess, and really
14:55
Speaker 1: the seven that is getting bought out. One estimate that
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Speaker 1: rosenth I've got was about fifty million dollars to benefit
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Speaker 1: back if they did have insurance, so it would have
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Speaker 1: covered some but nothing close to the two forty five
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Speaker 1: mill that was essentially a waste for the Angels during
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Speaker 1: this time period. So anyway, the relationship seems to finally
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Speaker 1: be over and Anthony Rendon will probably be retiring from
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Speaker 3: The Astros are running a two major league pitching coordination,
17:52
Speaker 3: and I don't know how that works for hitting, Like
17:56
Speaker 3: I don't think it works for hitting. You need somebody
17:58
Speaker 3: that's always like the top guy. So I don't know
18:00
Speaker 3: how they're doing it at the Astros, but they're doing
18:03
Speaker 3: it successfully.
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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal put out a notes column. He also put
18:08
Speaker 1: out a second Fair Territory this week a day early,
18:11
Speaker 1: so you can check that out. It was live before
18:13
Speaker 1: the show. If you want to catch it. After foul territory,
18:16
Speaker 1: we'll get to at least one of the notes here
18:17
Speaker 1: to start. This is an Eric Kratz special for your
18:20
Speaker 1: former team. Ken wrote, the Brewers are fretting over their payroll.
18:23
Speaker 1: According to people briefed on their plans, there's possibility that
18:26
Speaker 1: they'll need to subtract in order to add, and that
18:29
Speaker 1: again brings up the Freddy Peralta question. The only problem
18:33
Speaker 1: I keep having with this, Kratz is from a payroll perspective.
18:36
Speaker 1: Eight million bucks for Freddy P. Eight million bucks. I
18:39
Speaker 1: know that the Brewers have to be tight, but eight
18:41
Speaker 1: million bucks for a starter, and they have plenty of
18:43
Speaker 1: league minimum or early arbitration guys, that doesn't seem to
18:46
Speaker 1: be the problem spot.
18:49
Speaker 3: Not the problem spot. I mean, I get it. They
18:51
Speaker 3: probably didn't think Big WU was going to accept it.
18:53
Speaker 3: But I know the Brewers are definitely thinking we extend this.
18:57
Speaker 3: We would like to have him in twenty two millions,
18:59
Speaker 3: not a big Does that inhibit them from doing another
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Speaker 3: twenty million dollars one year deal? Yes, but Freddy P
19:06
Speaker 3: ain't the answer. And I mean twenty million for Freddy
19:10
Speaker 3: P wouldn't be that big a deal, but it's only
19:12
Speaker 3: eight million. If you're looking to cut payroll, you have
19:15
Speaker 3: to be more creative than getting rid of Freddy p
19:18
Speaker 3: unless you get a return that immediately puts your team
19:21
Speaker 3: right back in a ninety seven wins season again, and
19:24
Speaker 3: that's going to be a tough return.
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Speaker 1: Woodrif's making three times what Freddy Peralta is making. Hey,
19:30
Speaker 1: I agreed with the decision. If you think he looks
19:33
Speaker 1: like the big wou of old, then you do it.
19:35
Speaker 1: But if you really were concerned, you don't offer that.
19:39
Speaker 4: Yep.
19:41
Speaker 1: Two Orioles hirings per source telling Rock Obacco, who covers
19:45
Speaker 1: the Orioles for Mass and he said Mike Shilt will
19:47
Speaker 1: be upper level coordinator of instruction and Samuel Vega will
19:50
Speaker 1: be lower level coordinator of instruction. Shilt's the name that
19:54
Speaker 1: stands out. He retired as a manager. But you wanted
19:57
Speaker 1: to get the schedule reconfigured. So this does make sense,
20:01
Speaker 1: And then we can show the next one too before
20:03
Speaker 1: we get a quick reaction. This coming from Robert Murray.
20:06
Speaker 1: Brandon Hyde is in talks to join the Rais in
20:08
Speaker 1: an undisclosed role. Nothing done, but he's expected to land
20:12
Speaker 1: in Tampa. There were some people pretty surprised that Hye
20:14
Speaker 1: didn't get deeper into an interview process with any teams
20:17
Speaker 1: for a manager role. Maybe that happens next year. Any
20:21
Speaker 1: thoughts from each of you got a quick hit.
20:26
Speaker 5: Cool.
20:27
Speaker 2: The Mike Schuld thing's a little bit interesting to me too,
20:29
Speaker 2: I mean from everything we had heard, and I was
20:32
Speaker 2: on the show the day that he retired or was
20:36
Speaker 2: relieved of his duties, and it seemed like his health
20:38
Speaker 2: was in Jepardy. But for him to kind of jump
20:40
Speaker 2: back into a baseball role seems a little bit odd
20:43
Speaker 2: to me. Maybe we don't know the entirety of the
20:44
Speaker 2: story in San Diego, or maybe he just loves baseball
20:48
Speaker 2: so much and just couldn't be in the fight every
20:50
Speaker 2: single day. But I found that a little bit interesting
20:52
Speaker 2: that he would leave the padres and then take on
20:55
Speaker 2: another role.
20:57
Speaker 1: That's a lesser. I mean, this is probably a that
21:00
Speaker 1: requires less time, though, right, because I know that was
21:02
Speaker 1: a big thing for him.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't mean he's he has no
21:08
Speaker 2: he's not married, he has no kids. Like I get
21:10
Speaker 2: the time. He probably wants some time to himself, But
21:13
Speaker 2: I don't think the time was the thing that was
21:16
Speaker 2: the reason he left San Diego.
21:17
Speaker 4: I think it was the stress, the drama.
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Speaker 1: Hey, one more little nibble from Ken Rosenthal's notes column
21:26
Speaker 1: which came out recently, and then he hit on most
21:28
Speaker 1: of these topics on fair territory, which is out there.
21:31
Speaker 1: He said the Reds versatility will keep them active on
21:34
Speaker 1: numerous fronts because many of their players can play multiple
21:38
Speaker 1: positions and it gives them flexibility to make moves that
21:41
Speaker 1: fit their needs. Here are some examples, according to people
21:45
Speaker 1: familiar with their thinking who spoke to Ken. He said
21:49
Speaker 1: they could add a first baseman and they could put
21:51
Speaker 1: Spencer Steer in left field. They could add a center
21:54
Speaker 1: fielder and move TJ. Friedel to left field. They could
21:58
Speaker 1: also add a right handed hitting outfielder to a platoon
22:02
Speaker 1: with Will Benson, who's a left handed bat. What do
22:05
Speaker 1: you think, Kratz?
22:06
Speaker 3: Stop stop, you've been doing this. You've been doing this.
22:10
Speaker 3: You have all these guys.
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Speaker 4: You have TJ.
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Speaker 3: Friedel, you have you have Spencer Steer, you have Matt McClain,
22:17
Speaker 3: you have La de la Cruz. Like, stop, go get
22:21
Speaker 3: somebody that is going to be one position, solidifies that spot,
22:26
Speaker 3: and stop going out and getting the GMR Candelario. When
22:30
Speaker 3: you already have utility infielders. Stop going out and getting
22:35
Speaker 3: like guys who like you watch them go play really
22:38
Speaker 3: well somewhere and then you're like, oh we want that.
22:40
Speaker 3: Oh it didn't work out. We're the Reds. We can't
22:42
Speaker 3: afford to make mistakes. Stop go make one solidified spot
22:47
Speaker 3: add to your bullpen and your starting rotation is already boss,
22:51
Speaker 3: So stop doing this. Stop like going around, like touching
22:56
Speaker 3: the edge of the pool, like jump in swim. Make
22:59
Speaker 3: the playoffs and a deep run in the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: So you want one big star, You want one or
23:05
Speaker 1: I would say mid.
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Speaker 2: Range to high level I play, I got the I
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Speaker 2: want Pete Alonzo. I want to watch him hit seventy
23:15
Speaker 2: five homers that's just at the home games.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's a good fit for them.
23:24
Speaker 2: Could you imagine watching him hit there for eighty one
23:27
Speaker 2: games a year. He would make that place look so
23:30
Speaker 2: small it would be unbelievable. He would hit sixty You
23:33
Speaker 2: would hit sixty plus homers playing in.
23:35
Speaker 4: That ball play.
23:36
Speaker 3: I wanted them to get Anthony Santander last year to
23:38
Speaker 3: be that Latin player who will help Elie de la
23:42
Speaker 3: Cruz make that next step. Sometimes you need stars that
23:46
Speaker 3: look up to older stars, you know from where you
23:49
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23:51
Speaker 3: That's the kind of thing that I wanted because Ellie
23:53
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25:02
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Speaker 2: I mean you got Aaron Judge to win bet against you?
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Speaker 3: Colet Garrett Cole, he's coming back to They're gonna add
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Speaker 1: Anyone else that you think should be higher than the
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Speaker 1: Yanks as of right now?
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Speaker 3: Phillies possibly, but I don't think they've done enough yet.
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27:22
Speaker 1: So John in the chat said, can you ask Evan
27:24
Speaker 1: Grant if he thinks there's going to be a lockout
27:25
Speaker 1: next year? And I was like, I feel like that's
27:27
Speaker 1: more of an Evan relic or a Ken Rosenthal question.
27:31
Speaker 1: My guest to him was, there's one thousand percent going
27:34
Speaker 1: to be a lockout. But I think it's important for
27:35
Speaker 1: people to understand that doesn't mean you'll miss games. It
27:37
Speaker 1: just means that the sport will shut down for several
27:39
Speaker 1: months in the offseason. For sure, that's a lock My
27:42
Speaker 1: guess right now, gun to my head, KP, is that
27:45
Speaker 1: we actually will miss games, but a very small amount
27:49
Speaker 1: a week or two, to just make make the players
27:53
Speaker 1: feel a little bit, make the owners field a little bit,
27:55
Speaker 1: and then the two sides will say, Okay, enough of this,
27:57
Speaker 1: We've got way too much momentum. What's your quick thought.
28:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think they tipped their hand. And
28:03
Speaker 2: during the last kind of mini lockout we had is
28:05
Speaker 2: that they didn't make players, you know, sweat it out
28:08
Speaker 2: long enough. So I wouldn't be surprised if if owners
28:11
Speaker 2: did it. I think it's really sad that it's going
28:13
Speaker 2: to come to that point because you look at the
28:16
Speaker 2: ratings of the World Series, they were unbelievable. I think
28:19
Speaker 2: the game's in a great place. We have a lot
28:21
Speaker 2: of young stars, we have a lot of older stars.
28:24
Speaker 2: You know, let's just continue to kind of ride this
28:26
Speaker 2: momentum that baseball has right now. But I wouldn't be
28:29
Speaker 2: surprised there's definitely gonna be a lockout because, as you
28:33
Speaker 2: see everything in life, there has to be a deadline.
28:35
Speaker 2: You know, we could come to terms right now on
28:37
Speaker 2: a new CBA, but we're not going to, so there
28:39
Speaker 2: has to be a deadline. We're going to cross that line.
28:42
Speaker 2: There's gonna be a lockout, and no matter what the
28:45
Speaker 2: players do in our union does try to get a
28:47
Speaker 2: deal done. I think owners are going to send a
28:50
Speaker 2: message this time that they want what they want and
28:53
Speaker 2: they're willing to miss games to do it.
28:54
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tiptoe the line Herecrafts because it is
28:56
Speaker 1: still like kind of far away, but it's not. We're
28:59
Speaker 1: approaching the year we actually will have a lockout. It'll
29:02
Speaker 1: just be at the end of twenty twenty six. But
29:04
Speaker 1: the questions do keep flooding in we're one of the
29:07
Speaker 1: only spots that actually covers this. So what are your thoughts.
29:10
Speaker 3: That's it right there, that's my answer. No, there will
29:13
Speaker 3: not be a lockout. I mean there will not be
29:14
Speaker 3: any games missed. There might be a little bit of
29:17
Speaker 3: a lockout. Owners don't want to miss any games. Every
29:19
Speaker 3: game they're like, oh, man, that's how much attendance all
29:22
Speaker 3: this stuff. And I think our show has been around
29:25
Speaker 3: for long enough that the narrative is changing. Is it
29:30
Speaker 3: changed enough yet? I don't think so. But the narrative
29:33
Speaker 3: is changing in the fans mindset that has always been
29:36
Speaker 3: for years. Players greedy, millionaires, greedy, greedy, greedy, and people
29:42
Speaker 3: are saying, oh, that's why ticket prices are going up. No,
29:45
Speaker 3: that's not it at all. It's because the owners, the billionaires,
29:49
Speaker 3: the people who are holding your game hostage, don't have
29:54
Speaker 3: all the don't have all the leverage. Right now, you
29:57
Speaker 3: know what, You fans are closer to the players than you.
30:01
Speaker 3: Fans are close to the owners for the most part.
30:03
Speaker 3: For the greedy owners, and to me, I don't think that.
30:07
Speaker 3: I think the game is in a great place. Like
30:08
Speaker 3: KP said, I don't think we miss any games. I
30:11
Speaker 3: think there will be a lockout. But I think owners
30:13
Speaker 3: are going to start to see the fans are on
30:16
Speaker 3: the player's side more than they were in the past
30:18
Speaker 3: twenty five thirty five years.
30:21
Speaker 1: For me, I was good up until like forty eight
30:24
Speaker 1: hours ago when hal stein Berner tried to tell everyone
30:26
Speaker 1: that the Yankees aren't profitable, and then I had to
30:29
Speaker 1: rethink life for a while. I was like, hold up,
30:33
Speaker 1: so the Yankees don't make money. They get no checks
30:37
Speaker 1: for owning that team, no checks, And I understand how
30:40
Speaker 1: the business works, just.
30:42
Speaker 3: Thinner, not as many. I'm not getting big checks. It's
30:46
Speaker 3: just a bunch of little checks that are handed out,
30:49
Speaker 3: which makes one big.
30:51
Speaker 1: Do you think he's going to clarify and be liked?
30:53
Speaker 1: Did I say profit? I meant I meant just a
30:55
Speaker 1: little less profit because we split it with more people.
30:59
Speaker 1: My bad clarification.
31:01
Speaker 2: He will never because they'll never have to really show
31:04
Speaker 2: it or approve it, so they're gonna cry wolf. And
31:08
Speaker 2: I think the biggest problem is I think there's just
31:10
Speaker 2: as much as there's a big disparity amongst players salaries,
31:14
Speaker 2: I think there's a greater disparity when it comes to
31:17
Speaker 2: owners and what they really truly want in terms of
31:21
Speaker 2: revenue they make, you know, valuations of their franchise, and
31:24
Speaker 2: how they believe that they can be competitive. So I
31:27
Speaker 2: think to disagree with Krats, I do think there are
31:30
Speaker 2: gonna be some owners that really hold the line this time.
31:33
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, the Braves are profitable. The Yankees are profitable.
31:38
Speaker 1: We see the books for the Brave. All right, let's slap.
31:54
Speaker 1: Kevin Polar sent out a tweet asking for an early
31:59
Speaker 1: wish list for the Black Friday shoppers that love him
32:02
Speaker 1: very much. What would you like from them?
32:05
Speaker 2: Well, all of the above, to be honest with you,
32:08
Speaker 2: you know, I was, you know, was just talking to
32:09
Speaker 2: the kids about, you know, making sure they put their
32:12
Speaker 2: list out there. So I wanted to prove to them
32:14
Speaker 2: that even at the age of thirty six, I still
32:16
Speaker 2: have a Christmas list, and I wanted to put it
32:18
Speaker 2: out there. And you know, my wife does receive you know,
32:22
Speaker 2: my notifications when I tweet as well too, So part
32:26
Speaker 2: of it's for Santa, part of it's for my wife
32:27
Speaker 2: as well too. So these are the things that I
32:30
Speaker 2: would love to have. I will probably get none of them,
32:32
Speaker 2: but you know, it's it's fun to dream.
32:35
Speaker 4: No, no, no, you got one of them.
32:37
Speaker 3: You said you wanted a goat, You got one goat
32:40
Speaker 3: here the whole day you got to work with me.
32:42
Speaker 2: That's true. Two goats. Actually, that's all I'm really looking
32:45
Speaker 2: for is two goats, and I get to spend the
32:48
Speaker 2: last two hours with two of them. So check.
32:51
Speaker 1: I consider myself more of a barrel sauna, which was
32:54
Speaker 1: on your.
32:54
Speaker 3: List, barrelalation, Hepy Thanksgiving.
33:01
Speaker 4: I'm thankful for all you guys. M.