Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / FJ Campbell, Chief Medical Officer at Ardent Health Services
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- 0:00-
- 0:02- Nuance is a pioneer
- 0:03and a leading provider of conversational AI
- 0:06and cloud-based, ambient clinical intelligence
- 0:09for healthcare providers used by 77% of hospitals
- 0:12and 10,000 healthcare organizations worldwide.
- 0:16Our AI powered solutions capture 300 million patient
- 0:19stories each year.
- 0:21We help unburdened clinicians, radiologists,
- 0:24and care teams with efficient new ways
- 0:26to capture clinical information,
- 0:28applying real time intelligence
- 0:30for better decision making across the continuum of care.
- 0:33Now a Microsoft company Nuance brings industry leading
- 0:36generative AI and deep vertical expertise.
- 0:39To address your biggest challenges
- 0:41and accelerate healthcare outcomes, visit
- 0:45www.nuance.com/healthcare for more information.
- 0:49- Welcome everyone
- 0:50to the Becker's Healthcare podcast series.
- 0:52I'm Mariah Mohammed, writer
- 0:53and moderator with Becker's Healthcare,
- 0:55and I'm absolutely thrilled to have with me today Dr.
- 0:58FJ Campbell, chief Medical Officer at Arden Health Services.
- 1:01Doctor, it's very nice to have you on the podcast.
- 1:04To get us started, would you mind please introducing
- 1:06yourself and telling us a bit about your background?
- 1:09- Sure. FJ Campbell, again,
- 1:11I'm the Chief Medical Officer of Arden Health Services.
- 1:14I'm an emergency medicine p by training
- 1:17and effectively guided to administration along the way
- 1:21to improve throughput.
- 1:23Um, that started off with VIR Health, then I went on to HCA
- 1:27and CHS, uh,
- 1:29and now I'm at Arden Health Services, where I'm responsible
- 1:32for our clinical initiatives.
- 1:35- Wonderful. Thank you so much
- 1:36for giving us that background.
- 1:38So to jump right into our conversation today,
- 1:40can you tell me about your most successful project
- 1:43or initiative from the last year?
- 1:45What issues were you trying to solve
- 1:47and also what drove the success?
- 1:50- Sure, no question about it.
- 1:52As we have been coming out of covid, um,
- 1:57and really thinking about workforce demands, uh,
- 2:02it really demonstrated to us
- 2:03that there has become an untenable amount of work
- 2:07for our nursing staff.
- 2:09And we began to really question what are the elements
- 2:12of nursing workflow that we could literally automate?
- 2:16And that work has taken place in our Amarillo market at BSA,
- 2:21where we have endeavored
- 2:22to automate the collection of vital signs.
- 2:25Uh, our partner in that is a company
- 2:26called Bio Intelligence.
- 2:28Their product is bio button.
- 2:32Uh, we've also done that in conjunction with Medtronic.
- 2:35And uh, the bio button is placed on patients
- 2:39and we have the automated collection of heart rates,
- 2:41respiratory rates, and temperature.
- 2:44Um, two success stories come out of this.
- 2:47Number one, it's reducing some of the tasks,
- 2:52the mundane tasks at the bedside that occupy workflow
- 2:56for our nurses and our patient care technicians.
- 2:59Uh, but with 1,440 measurements per day per patient, it has
- 3:04provided a profound amount of data that is now going into
- 3:08our deterioration index called Alert Watch,
- 3:11which is much more effectively identifying
- 3:14patients who are deteriorating.
- 3:16And we have seen as a result, uh, a reduction in length
- 3:19of stay and a reduction in mortality major success for us.
- 3:23So that was the last year,
- 3:25and we're in the process of rolling that out to
- 3:28further facilities.
- 3:29We've completed it in our Tulsa market,
- 3:31and we'll be going to East Texas next.
- 3:37- Wonderful, wonderful.
- 3:38Thank you so much for giving us, uh, that insight.
- 3:41And the next question I wanted to ask you is, as you know,
- 3:44the clinical workforce has changed a lot in the last few
- 3:47years for obvious reasons.
- 3:49Uh, what challenges are you still facing
- 3:51and how do you see the clinical workforce evolving?
- 3:55- We're gonna have a virtual workforce working alongside
- 3:59an onsite workforce.
- 4:01Um, we've been talking about telehealth for decades now,
- 4:05and it's been very much focused on physicians.
- 4:08Um, again, a byproduct of our experience coming out
- 4:11of Covid, uh, was reflecting on the bedside care
- 4:17paradigm for both nurses and for patient care technicians.
- 4:21Um, we've been working with a company called Care ai.
- 4:25Um, we're in the midst of deploying 400 plus, um,
- 4:30telehealth sensors per, um,
- 4:32room across our East Texas market.
- 4:35And the goal there is to actually drive virtual nurses,
- 4:39virtual techs and virtual attendings.
- 4:43Uh, this is about load balancing workflow for nurses,
- 4:47but also load, uh, balancing acuity
- 4:51and patient volumes across, uh, a whole market.
- 4:56And our hub and spoke model.
- 4:59When we look at the virtual nurses,
- 5:01we are specifically thinking again, what can we do
- 5:05to improve the workflows for our nurses
- 5:08and technicians working in the hospital?
- 5:11And we thought we could deploy virtual nurses
- 5:14who could take care of elements of the admission process,
- 5:17medication reconciliation, rounding the discharge process,
- 5:23creating an environment where the nurses
- 5:26who are now present on site are not going to have to be
- 5:30so profoundly task focused
- 5:32that they can concentrate more on critical thinking.
- 5:36And that's what we think is going to lead
- 5:38to a safer environment, both for our patients, our nurses,
- 5:42and our techs as they're trying
- 5:44to execute on their patient care.
- 5:46When we realized that we could do that for nurses, we began
- 5:49to realize we could also extend this to bringing
- 5:54attendings from our tertiary care centers
- 5:57to our secondary hospitals for a multitude
- 6:00of clinical service lines to
- 6:02therefore increase the capability of our secondary hospitals
- 6:05and open up capacity to our tertiary care centers
- 6:08to take more patients in from the community.
- 6:11- Wonderful, wonderful.
- 6:12Thank you so much for giving us that insight.
- 6:14And Doctor, before I let you go, what is your best advice
- 6:19for aspiring physician and nurse leaders?
- 6:23- We have become nearly
- 6:27symbiotic with technology.
- 6:30I know that's a dramatic statement.
- 6:32We no longer look at things like Epic as an EMR.
- 6:35It really has become our clinical operating system.
- 6:38Um, and there are increasingly will be tools that are going
- 6:43to allow us to go through a tremendous amount
- 6:46of patient data and really bring us down
- 6:49to the pertinent positives and the pertinent negatives.
- 6:51And that's gonna be happening in the nursing front.
- 6:54That's gonna be happening in the physician front.
- 6:58There's a new skillset that people are going to have
- 7:01to really embrace.
- 7:03It's not just how well you take a history.
- 7:05It's not just how well you come up
- 7:06with differential diagnosis
- 7:08or how well you do a physical exam.
- 7:11There's also going to be a skill
- 7:13and people are really gonna have to commit to learning
- 7:16the new skills around how do I leverage the tech,
- 7:19leverage the technology around me to most effectively
- 7:23and efficiently take care of the patients that I have.
- 7:26So that is something that people associate with, Hey,
- 7:30you're going to be able
- 7:31to more effectively do your workflows if you gain
- 7:33mastery over EMR.
- 7:35But there are gonna be new systems
- 7:36that are gonna be driving this clinical decision support
- 7:39systems, artificial intelligence systems,
- 7:42and having that comfort level
- 7:45and having that understanding of necessity
- 7:48to gain mastery over these new technology systems,
- 7:52information systems coming in.
- 7:54I think people are gonna have to really know
- 7:56that their success
- 7:58and their happiness in this work
- 8:00will involve embracing these technologies.
- 8:04- Yes. Thank you so much for those final thoughts, doctor.
- 8:06This has definitely been an amazing
- 8:08and informative discussion.
- 8:09So again, I wanna thank you so much
- 8:11for coming on Becker's Healthcare
- 8:12and I look forward to connecting with you again soon.
- 8:15- My pleasure. Take care.
- 8:17- Nuance is a pioneer
- 8:19and a leading provider of conversational AI in cloud-based,
- 8:22ambient clinical intelligence for healthcare providers used
- 8:26by 77% of hospitals
- 8:27and 10,000 healthcare organizations worldwide.
- 8:31Our AI powered solutions capture 300 million patient
- 8:34stories each year.
- 8:36We help unburdened clinicians, radiologists,
- 8:39and care teams with efficient new ways
- 8:41to capture clinical information,
- 8:43applying real time intelligence
- 8:45for better decision making across the continuum of care.
- 8:48Now a Microsoft company Nuance brings industry leading
- 8:52generative AI and deep vertical expertise.
- 8:54To address your biggest challenges
- 8:56and accelerate healthcare outcomes, visit
- 9:00www.nuance.com/healthcare for more information.