Latest / Cats & Pudding with Jennifer Dilandro / Rossella Rago - Cuisine, Culture, and Ketamine with Kathrine Narducci
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This summer, bring your family on holiday to Ireland's ancient East.
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- 0:29Speaker 3: E God, kathe Well filming. Yeah, look into the camera.
- 0:35Speaker 3: Come on, I'm just happing.
- 0:37Speaker 4: I'm just wanting how to do this. I gotta look
- 0:39Speaker 4: at a camera. Jen, teach me. You have to look
- 0:42Speaker 4: into the camera and say.
- 0:44Speaker 2: This is the Cats and Footing podcast. I'm melting pot
- 0:50Speaker 2: of and now here's Jen.
- 0:54Speaker 5: Hi, everybody, this is Kats and Pudding and Kitty. I'm
- 0:57Speaker 5: so happy to be back and really am really happy
- 1:00Speaker 5: today for my next guest. Our next guest, who is
- 1:05Speaker 5: my favorite most sexiest Italian woman on social media? She
- 1:10Speaker 5: is She really is funny and I love you and
- 1:14Speaker 5: so write it down.
- 1:16Speaker 4: Is her saying, we have Rosella.
- 1:20Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Rosella, I'm so happy you're here. I
- 1:24Speaker 3: didn't know if you were coming or not because we
- 1:26Speaker 3: didn't get a response back and I.
- 1:28Speaker 6: Jeff does not copy my assistant friends Jeff to the box, Jeff,
- 1:32Speaker 6: I have a lot going on.
- 1:34Speaker 2: I would really appreciate if you let Franny.
- 1:36Speaker 6: No, don't, don't ask me anything because I don't know
- 1:39Speaker 6: where I'm going. I don't know where I'm doing. I
- 1:41Speaker 6: always have a Francesca for that.
- 1:43Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I have a couple of people for that.
- 1:45Speaker 3: For me, I need a few. I had anxiety list
- 1:50Speaker 3: eleven o'clock. I'm like, did I reply to this email?
- 1:52Speaker 3: I didn't reply to this email. I'm an idiot, Like what.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Don't I don't.
- 1:55Speaker 4: I'm not.
- 1:56Speaker 2: I'm not equipped to reply to emails anymore.
- 1:59Speaker 4: Like I hate emails.
- 2:00Speaker 2: I can't.
- 2:02Speaker 4: I never answer emails.
- 2:03Speaker 6: I hate that.
- 2:04Speaker 2: I don't need that.
- 2:06Speaker 4: They text me. I don't even answer text messages. You
- 2:09Speaker 4: answer mine.
- 2:10Speaker 3: I do answer yours, but I don't. But when I'm
- 2:12Speaker 3: at work, especially to I don't answer anybody.
- 2:14Speaker 4: I can't.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you have to hold the needle, you know.
- 2:17Speaker 4: I have to be I have to be yes. I
- 2:19Speaker 4: have to be I have to be in the zone one.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't you know if you were on your
- 2:23Speaker 2: phone with like the.
- 2:24Speaker 4: Hey question, let me let me inject you. Hey, what's
- 2:28Speaker 4: going on?
- 2:28Speaker 6: But hey, Joe Ann, No, I'm not coming, thank you
- 2:31Speaker 6: the whole still.
- 2:32Speaker 3: I'd be like that time me, I'll be right back
- 2:34Speaker 3: when I call you back later.
- 2:35Speaker 4: Yeah, I can.
- 2:35Speaker 5: I feel like I'm a little privileged over here because
- 2:38Speaker 5: you do answer me when you're at work.
- 2:39Speaker 4: I do, I answer you? Am I supposed to say
- 2:42Speaker 4: that to your other friends? They're gonna do you under
- 2:44Speaker 4: the bus now?
- 2:45Speaker 3: But she never answers me when she's at work. I
- 2:48Speaker 3: I it depends on what I'm doing. Let's put it
- 2:51Speaker 3: that way. If I'm at work, No.
- 2:52Speaker 2: That's fair.
- 2:53Speaker 6: If I'm cooking, Like, I can't fry chicken cutlets and
- 2:56Speaker 6: like talk the same time, only if it's my mother,
- 2:58Speaker 6: because like I'm on order. But I can't like think
- 3:01Speaker 6: anything that requires thought. It's not I'll burn the cutlet that.
- 3:05Speaker 4: No, you can't. You can't do that.
- 3:07Speaker 2: No, I like to. I like to streamline my life. Now.
- 3:11Speaker 5: This is a good segue into what we were talking about.
- 3:13Speaker 4: And I want to talk about something.
- 3:16Speaker 5: A year, I noticed that she slowed down on her
- 3:19Speaker 5: social media and you weren't around as much. You took
- 3:22Speaker 5: a break, and for me to notice that, I'm gonna
- 3:27Speaker 5: I'm in a in a bog, I'm in a bubble,
- 3:29Speaker 5: I'm gonna clouds.
- 3:30Speaker 4: My head's in the clouds.
- 3:32Speaker 5: I really that means I really like you, and I
- 3:35Speaker 5: follow you, and I noticed you with God and I
- 3:37Speaker 5: DMed you and I said, how's everything going?
- 3:39Speaker 4: Are you okay?
- 3:41Speaker 5: You told me something out in the waiting room about
- 3:44Speaker 5: taking the break and what you discovered for your Uh,
- 3:49Speaker 5: I don't even want to say, tell us why you
- 3:50Speaker 5: took a break in what was happening, and then the
- 3:53Speaker 5: whole therapy that you just told me about, which is
- 3:55Speaker 5: so interesting.
- 3:57Speaker 6: So I think I struggled with anxiety and depression since
- 4:02Speaker 6: I was a kid, I mean, you know, not just
- 4:04Speaker 6: the kind that comes with being raised in an Italian
- 4:06Speaker 6: American household, which is very bad, which is you know,
- 4:10Speaker 6: its own niche Yeah, you know brands. But I think
- 4:15Speaker 6: I had some issues that I didn't know how to
- 4:18Speaker 6: deal with. I mean, I did therapy since I was
- 4:21Speaker 6: I don't even know sixteen, like on and off but
- 4:25Speaker 6: talk therapy. The more I was researching, it was only
- 4:28Speaker 6: going to deal with you know, ten percent of our
- 4:30Speaker 6: conscious minds. The ninety percent of our subconscious minds is
- 4:34Speaker 6: not really used. So I was trying to find a
- 4:38Speaker 6: way to help myself because I hit a wall. You know,
- 4:42Speaker 6: at one point, things feel like too much. And a
- 4:45Speaker 6: lot of things happened in quick succession. My father got sick,
- 4:50Speaker 6: my father got diagnosed with non Hoskins lampoma last year.
- 4:54Speaker 6: My grandmother's ninety one. She suffers from dementia. I went
- 4:59Speaker 6: through a bad break up. I went through a bad
- 5:00Speaker 6: friend breakup that was worse than like that's worse, and
- 5:04Speaker 6: worse is breakup.
- 5:05Speaker 4: It's friends. Breakup is friends. Breakup is worse.
- 5:08Speaker 6: So you know, it started to feel oh so yeah,
- 5:12Speaker 6: a lot of old friends. It was like, you know,
- 5:14Speaker 6: total it felt like everything started like crumbling all around me,
- 5:18Speaker 6: and I didn't know what to do and I and
- 5:20Speaker 6: I you know, almost wanted to like give up on everything.
- 5:24Speaker 6: I just got into a place that was so sad
- 5:28Speaker 6: and I couldn't be excited about life anymore.
- 5:31Speaker 4: And you know it, sir, yeah broken.
- 5:34Speaker 6: And you know I would talk to my friends and
- 5:36Speaker 6: your friends always trying to uplift you, and they say,
- 5:37Speaker 6: you have this wonderful life, you're not living it.
- 5:39Speaker 2: Yeah, And I that's exactly what I was doing. I
- 5:42Speaker 2: wasn't living my life.
- 5:44Speaker 6: I like stopped living my life and it just didn't
- 5:47Speaker 6: feel good to show myself anyway. You know, I've been
- 5:50Speaker 6: sharing my life on social media since two thousand and nine,
- 5:53Speaker 6: and it all takes a toll. It's hard to go
- 5:56Speaker 6: through private things publicly. And I just stopped. And while
- 6:02Speaker 6: I was, you know, taking a break, I think there
- 6:06Speaker 6: was still part of me that was trying to hold
- 6:08Speaker 6: on and was still like willing to go on. And
- 6:10Speaker 6: I think that's the most important thing. And I started
- 6:13Speaker 6: researching ketamine therapy.
- 6:16Speaker 4: Which I find fascinating.
- 6:18Speaker 3: You know, I've I've heard of the kind listen to this.
- 6:22Speaker 6: Does I mean ketamine is a is a psychedelic, it's
- 6:25Speaker 6: an anesthetic. It's actually used in anesthesia for children.
- 6:29Speaker 4: Well, they called it special K in the club.
- 6:30Speaker 6: They do in the club, So everybody asks me that
- 6:32Speaker 6: is it like tripping in a club?
- 6:34Speaker 2: No, it is nothing like that.
- 6:36Speaker 6: When ketamine is used to treat treatment resistant depression or
- 6:40Speaker 6: PTSD or so many other things that it's used for
- 6:45Speaker 6: it's you. I did it in a clinical setting with
- 6:47Speaker 6: an integrationist with with a lot of support and you know,
- 6:53Speaker 6: a zero gravity recliner and a weighted blanket and the
- 6:56Speaker 6: headphones and I'm bougie.
- 6:58Speaker 2: Okay, I did I did it?
- 7:00Speaker 6: You know it's very the I'm as Yeah, there's medical doctors.
- 7:06Speaker 6: You listen to meditation music throughout. You know, there's medical doctors.
- 7:09Speaker 2: They weigh you. It's a very specific dose.
- 7:12Speaker 6: It's not you know, you're not just left to your
- 7:14Speaker 6: own devices.
- 7:15Speaker 4: Is it almost?
- 7:17Speaker 6: It's no, it's it's a pretty to get you in
- 7:20Speaker 6: the dissociative state. So what what I mean by a
- 7:23Speaker 6: dissociative state is ketamine is a dissociative So it dissociates
- 7:27Speaker 6: you from your body, and it will dissolve your your ego,
- 7:31Speaker 6: your thinking mind. So you're able to view your traumas,
- 7:35Speaker 6: your memories.
- 7:36Speaker 2: As an observer.
- 7:37Speaker 6: So even if you're revisiting trauma or uncomfortable situations in it,
- 7:41Speaker 6: it's not scary.
- 7:42Speaker 4: You're just kind of watching it.
- 7:44Speaker 6: Yes, it's kind of like you're walking through a museum
- 7:47Speaker 6: of your thoughts and trauma and memories and things and.
- 7:50Speaker 4: How did that feel.
- 7:52Speaker 2: I mean, it was it.
- 7:54Speaker 6: It was probably the single most profound experience of my
- 7:57Speaker 6: entire life.
- 7:58Speaker 4: Did it open the third eye?
- 8:00Speaker 2: It opened everything?
- 8:02Speaker 5: I mean they say that Ayawashka opens the third eye,
- 8:07Speaker 5: and you could like see your future.
- 8:09Speaker 4: You can people see so many.
- 8:10Speaker 6: Crazy you can see it, you know, some people, whatever
- 8:13Speaker 6: you want to call it. You can connect to your
- 8:15Speaker 6: higher self, to your soul because you really there's a
- 8:19Speaker 6: moment where you forget you have like a body and
- 8:21Speaker 6: you're just kind of floating and you're like, is this
- 8:24Speaker 6: what it's like to be like?
- 8:26Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 8:27Speaker 5: I was just going to ask that she saw a
- 8:29Speaker 5: vision of the Madonna.
- 8:31Speaker 6: I saw, like, you know, it's very kind of Meine
- 8:35Speaker 6: is very Morpheus. So with the music, it kind of
- 8:38Speaker 6: everything kind of moves through like these different galaxies, and
- 8:42Speaker 6: I think everybody's representations are different in there, but you
- 8:46Speaker 6: can see things in very fine details. So every time
- 8:51Speaker 6: I do it, everything's kind of like a mosaic. So yeah,
- 8:54Speaker 6: I did see like a mosaic of like a Madonna
- 8:57Speaker 6: and child and it was like me and my mother.
- 9:00Speaker 2: I was the mother and she was the child, and
- 9:02Speaker 2: it was very it was very very.
- 9:06Speaker 3: And then could I ask you other people in the
- 9:08Speaker 3: room with you when you go for this treatment.
- 9:10Speaker 6: So the way I did it, I did it at
- 9:12Speaker 6: a fantastic clinic in the city called New Shama, and
- 9:15Speaker 6: I researched.
- 9:16Speaker 2: I always re n U, s H A, M A.
- 9:20Speaker 6: And I do my research with everything, whether it's lip filler.
- 9:24Speaker 2: Or akademy therapy. I do very exp.
- 9:28Speaker 6: And I just found that the way that they treat
- 9:31Speaker 6: with ketemine is so different. It's three hours long. There's
- 9:34Speaker 6: integration therapy before. With an integration an integrationist, you set
- 9:39Speaker 6: an intention, then you know they they give you the medicine.
- 9:43Speaker 6: Then the integrationist comes back. You process everything you know.
- 9:46Speaker 6: And it's something that I am really passionate about now
- 9:52Speaker 6: because it literally gave me my life back in so
- 9:55Speaker 6: many ways.
- 9:56Speaker 2: I mean, the.
- 9:57Speaker 6: Within hours it felt better. Physical depression was gone the
- 10:01Speaker 6: first for me. Yes for me, yes, and and I
- 10:06Speaker 6: remember calling my friend that night.
- 10:07Speaker 2: And saying, I just feel so rational.
- 10:11Speaker 6: Like perspectives that never felt available to me. But like
- 10:15Speaker 6: when you're in that bad place and you just can't,
- 10:17Speaker 6: I need to do everything is gone. The tunnel vision.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, all of a sudden, it was like opened
- 10:23Speaker 2: up I can see this differently. Now, wait a.
- 10:25Speaker 3: Minute, but don't you find that that happens to most people.
- 10:28Speaker 3: We tunnel I think we apartmentalize a lot of things
- 10:33Speaker 3: and we do a tunnel vision because maybe we just
- 10:36Speaker 3: can't what the outer as part of everything.
- 10:39Speaker 4: So it's easier for us to deal with doing that
- 10:42Speaker 4: and that to have the tunnel vision.
- 10:45Speaker 6: Yeah, that's exactly it. I think we feel safe in
- 10:48Speaker 6: whatever we're holding on to somehow, where if you complain
- 10:52Speaker 6: about things, you have something to complain. All those people
- 10:54Speaker 6: that just want to complain about feel safe in that
- 10:57Speaker 6: in some way. Because if you didn't feel safe in
- 10:59Speaker 6: it and you realize that it's not helping you.
- 11:02Speaker 2: You have no problem letting it go.
- 11:03Speaker 5: Can you got for the ketymine treatment if you just
- 11:07Speaker 5: want to experience it out a body thing and tap
- 11:10Speaker 5: into your creativity and go, you know, be or you
- 11:13Speaker 5: have to go there with a prescription for depression.
- 11:16Speaker 6: No, no, you don't need a prescript. You don't need
- 11:18Speaker 6: a prescription I think there. So the way ketamine works
- 11:21Speaker 6: is that it can rewire the brain the way thing
- 11:26Speaker 6: the way it is. I'm sorry, but you know by
- 11:28Speaker 6: the time you're eight years old, most of your that's
- 11:30Speaker 6: when by the time sorry, by the time we're eight
- 11:33Speaker 6: years old, most of our trauma has already happened. Yes,
- 11:36Speaker 6: And the neural pathways get formed incorrectly in a certain way.
- 11:40Speaker 6: That's why it's like, you know, you should do things
- 11:42Speaker 6: one way, but you just do them a different way
- 11:44Speaker 6: that isn't necessarily great.
- 11:47Speaker 2: So the thing is the brain can change.
- 11:50Speaker 6: The brain has something called neuroplasticity, and that means that
- 11:53Speaker 6: we can form new neural pathways.
- 11:55Speaker 2: So after you do ketamine, like we're.
- 11:57Speaker 6: Wiring your brain, there's there's a period after words where
- 12:00Speaker 6: you're like a sponge again and you can form brand
- 12:03Speaker 6: new neural pathways.
- 12:04Speaker 2: That makes it easier to stop doing.
- 12:06Speaker 6: Or old behaviors start doing new ones that are better.
- 12:10Speaker 5: But I mean, does no shauma? Does new shauma? Can
- 12:15Speaker 5: I just walk in there and get a kenemine treatment?
- 12:17Speaker 2: I think you you do a consultation, but the treatment that.
- 12:21Speaker 3: Well, how do they evaluate you to say, hey you
- 12:23Speaker 3: need That's what I mean, Hey, I want to do
- 12:27Speaker 3: it today.
- 12:28Speaker 4: I just want to today.
- 12:30Speaker 3: Can I come in you want to hook me up
- 12:32Speaker 3: to some you know, because I want to.
- 12:33Speaker 4: Have an out of body Yeah.
- 12:34Speaker 2: No, no, you know, no, you can't just go.
- 12:38Speaker 4: Can I just cot?
- 12:39Speaker 3: No?
- 12:40Speaker 4: They have prescription to get there.
- 12:42Speaker 2: You you do an evaluation with the team. Yeah, and
- 12:45Speaker 2: they have they evaluate.
- 12:46Speaker 4: So they have nothing to do with the medical world.
- 12:48Speaker 2: They are their medical there.
- 12:50Speaker 4: Their doctors, doctor, give me a prescription.
- 12:53Speaker 2: It's no.
- 12:54Speaker 6: You can call them and their medical team will evaluate you.
- 12:57Speaker 3: Is it under medical care it's not covered? Probably, it's probably,
- 13:02Speaker 3: it's probably out of Is it expensive?
- 13:04Speaker 2: They bring you snacks when you wake up, you think
- 13:06Speaker 2: that's covered?
- 13:07Speaker 4: Not Is it expensive? What kind of snacks like pine bars?
- 13:13Speaker 2: Personally?
- 13:13Speaker 4: But you know.
- 13:16Speaker 2: What, is it expensive? It's not cheap.
- 13:18Speaker 6: It's certainly not uh, not affordable for everyone, which makes
- 13:23Speaker 6: me very sad because I feel like there's so many
- 13:24Speaker 6: people suffering.
- 13:26Speaker 4: Well, you know that that always happens.
- 13:28Speaker 3: The medical community or the cycle psyche community is not
- 13:31Speaker 3: going to give it to everybody because guess what, it's
- 13:34Speaker 3: not effective to cure people.
- 13:36Speaker 4: Right, That's what happens.
- 13:38Speaker 3: You're rare to keep people on these they don't exactly exactly.
- 13:43Speaker 2: I wasn't interested in going on long term medication.
- 13:46Speaker 6: Not no shame to anyone that's on it, but you know,
- 13:50Speaker 6: I wanted to find a solution that was a little
- 13:53Speaker 6: bit more natural but was actually going to get to
- 13:57Speaker 6: the root of the problem.
- 13:59Speaker 3: And you and and you can fix it or try
- 14:02Speaker 3: to fix it or try to deal with it, you know,
- 14:05Speaker 3: because it's more like you're not going to fix it
- 14:07Speaker 3: because there's always going to be something there, and it's
- 14:09Speaker 3: going to be a scar there. It's just now learned
- 14:12Speaker 3: how to deal with it in a more rational way
- 14:15Speaker 3: or more or a different way. That's better for you
- 14:18Speaker 3: to go through life with. Right, because the way we
- 14:20Speaker 3: deal with things, what happens with most people, they deal
- 14:22Speaker 3: with things. They abuse alcohol, they abuse eating, they abuse drugs. Right,
- 14:26Speaker 3: these are all things that are that we're going to
- 14:29Speaker 3: run to to help fill the hole and fill the hole.
- 14:32Speaker 3: And then what happens to film, you're just filling the doctors.
- 14:35Speaker 3: You're feeling that demon and the demon. You're not getting
- 14:38Speaker 3: rid of the demon. You're just kind of keeping it
- 14:40Speaker 3: there and just keep feeding.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Demon in check, right, because you're not dealing with yourself.
- 14:44Speaker 6: Right, Everything in the world, everything that every people, every
- 14:48Speaker 6: person we meet is a reflection.
- 14:50Speaker 2: Of us, is a reflection. Oh my god, I can't
- 14:53Speaker 2: talk today.
- 14:54Speaker 6: Every person we meet in the world, every situation where
- 14:57Speaker 6: is a reflection of how we feel about ourselves.
- 15:00Speaker 2: That's what I that's the biggest thing that I think the.
- 15:02Speaker 5: Best thing that happened to you was being broken and
- 15:05Speaker 5: going as every person should be broken in life and
- 15:09Speaker 5: then build back up because you become so much more stronger,
- 15:12Speaker 5: so much more aware. My spirit was broken in like
- 15:15Speaker 5: two thousand and two. Literally I felt something break inside
- 15:19Speaker 5: me and I went rock bottom in not as oppression,
- 15:24Speaker 5: in a weird finding out who I was a search
- 15:27Speaker 5: along a journey to finding out and I feel so
- 15:31Speaker 5: much better.
- 15:32Speaker 4: Such a learning experience to find out who you are.
- 15:36Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I'm actually talk about a shift in perspective.
- 15:40Speaker 6: Like you know, I spent months going why me? Like
- 15:43Speaker 6: why did this happen to like why is this all happening?
- 15:45Speaker 4: To victim mentality.
- 15:47Speaker 6: I'm so grateful that it did because it all brought
- 15:50Speaker 6: me home to myself. You know, I wouldn't trade the
- 15:54Speaker 6: way I feel now for any friends, any lover, any
- 15:58Speaker 6: any amount of you know, the health and what in
- 16:01Speaker 6: my family would.
- 16:02Speaker 2: Be I would be more appreciable.
- 16:03Speaker 6: But no, I'm grateful for the situation because it also
- 16:07Speaker 6: taught me so much about loving my parents differently, accepting
- 16:11Speaker 6: my parents different accepting everything differently.
- 16:15Speaker 3: Oh wow, ahead do you feel do you feel now
- 16:18Speaker 3: that looking back that you that you got rid of sod?
- 16:21Speaker 3: They're losing these these these relationships. So that's what triggered
- 16:25Speaker 3: all this basically.
- 16:27Speaker 6: I think it was like, you know, first my father
- 16:29Speaker 6: got sick, I broke up with someone, then I broke
- 16:31Speaker 6: up with my friends that you know, it was like
- 16:33Speaker 6: a domino.
- 16:34Speaker 4: So I was looking back.
- 16:35Speaker 3: Does that make you do you realize that maybe that
- 16:37Speaker 3: had to happen for you.
- 16:38Speaker 6: To absolutely It's like it's like, you know that there's
- 16:42Speaker 6: like a meme of like Jesus with there's like a
- 16:46Speaker 6: little girl.
- 16:47Speaker 2: There's this meme with like there's a little girl and.
- 16:51Speaker 6: Like Jesus is taking the little teddy bear away from her,
- 16:54Speaker 6: but he's got like a bigger one behind his back.
- 16:57Speaker 6: And it's like, we don't know how good life can
- 17:01Speaker 6: actually get unless we're willing to hold on to unless
- 17:05Speaker 6: we're willing to let go of the past. It's like,
- 17:08Speaker 6: you can't discover a new world if your ship is
- 17:11Speaker 6: still docked at the old shorts.
- 17:13Speaker 2: You have to let go.
- 17:14Speaker 4: I love that you have to go of the past.
- 17:17Speaker 2: Of the people.
- 17:17Speaker 6: You can't because, like I always say, healing isn't linear,
- 17:21Speaker 6: and my healing was not linear. There was a lot
- 17:23Speaker 6: of expansion and contraction and up and down.
- 17:25Speaker 2: In the process of it. But growth is linear.
- 17:28Speaker 6: You cannot ungrow, You cannot return to the places and
- 17:32Speaker 6: the relationships that you've grown out of. They can't contain
- 17:36Speaker 6: you anymore. And that's okay. You know, that's okay. Whether
- 17:39Speaker 6: that's a marriage, whether that's a friendship, whether that's a job.
- 17:42Speaker 6: You know, you have to accept that sometimes you are
- 17:46Speaker 6: meant to grow in a different direction.
- 17:48Speaker 3: Yeah, and you, I mean you you feel better now,
- 17:51Speaker 3: I mean.
- 17:52Speaker 4: You look great, like you look like thank you, You're glowing.
- 17:55Speaker 4: Thank you.
- 17:56Speaker 6: No, I feel wonderful. I really do. I you know,
- 17:59Speaker 6: I ever I used to meet people like this. I
- 18:01Speaker 6: have one friend. She's fantastic. She does this company challenge.
- 18:05Speaker 2: The Challenge Girl.
- 18:07Speaker 4: She's coming on my show next month.
- 18:09Speaker 6: Of course she has to be I'm like, what pills
- 18:11Speaker 6: do you say? She does these fantastic Lee Mancello events.
- 18:14Speaker 6: But she's the happiest goddamn person on the planet.
- 18:16Speaker 2: It's amazing, It's very.
- 18:17Speaker 4: Sweet social media.
- 18:19Speaker 3: I just loved her. I said, I love this girl's energy. Yeah,
- 18:22Speaker 3: and you know Lucia too from Howard.
- 18:24Speaker 2: Beach, Lucia what's her name?
- 18:26Speaker 6: Who?
- 18:27Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Lega Lia? Yeah, store, my daughter is from
- 18:32Speaker 3: my neighborhood. So that's that's how I network. I saw
- 18:36Speaker 3: you and I thought of following you, and then I
- 18:38Speaker 3: saw you following Amanda's so I was like, oh, I said,
- 18:40Speaker 3: I love you whole energy.
- 18:42Speaker 4: I said, that's why I said, I had to get
- 18:44Speaker 4: her on here to talk to you. And now she
- 18:46Speaker 4: has a shop online.
- 18:48Speaker 6: So yeah, I have a run an online store called
- 18:50Speaker 6: Baa with my father. My dad and I run it
- 18:54Speaker 6: together and we import things from Italy.
- 18:57Speaker 4: Uh.
- 18:57Speaker 6: We really started it with the idea that there weren't
- 19:01Speaker 6: a lot of things that catered to Italian Americans, you know.
- 19:06Speaker 6: So I started making t shirts that said like Balletza
- 19:09Speaker 6: or bed du like things even in like Sicilian or
- 19:12Speaker 6: something because I wanted to feel represented. Yeah, you know,
- 19:15Speaker 6: I wanted I wanted it to Sometimes you go somewhere
- 19:18Speaker 6: you got a shirt that says that somebody sees it,
- 19:19Speaker 6: They're like, you're Italian, and you start talking and it's
- 19:22Speaker 6: a relationship, you know, a connection form. So I wanted
- 19:26Speaker 6: to create things that I wanted to wear myself also,
- 19:30Speaker 6: but that could make people feel a connection to you know,
- 19:33Speaker 6: the Italian American heritage and your books.
- 19:36Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I did books, my cookbooks. I did.
- 19:39Speaker 6: I'm like the model that got discovered at McDonald's with
- 19:43Speaker 6: in publishing. I swear to god, this does not happen
- 19:45Speaker 6: to anybody. I started Cooking with Nona my my YouTube
- 19:49Speaker 6: show in two thousand and nine, so, like, I've been
- 19:51Speaker 6: around a long time. And in twenty sixteen, I got
- 19:56Speaker 6: a Facebook message from an editor at a publishing company
- 20:00Speaker 6: and she's like, I thought you already had a book out.
- 20:02Speaker 2: Do you want to write a book? That was the offer?
- 20:05Speaker 4: Could you think it was fake? Yes? And no?
- 20:09Speaker 6: I mean she seemed le, she seemed to know really
- 20:12Speaker 6: did follow me and liked what I did.
- 20:14Speaker 2: And I was like, you want me to write a book.
- 20:16Speaker 2: I didn't think I was ever going to get into college.
- 20:18Speaker 6: I didn't really, I didn't, you know, I didn't think
- 20:21Speaker 6: that I could do things like that back then.
- 20:23Speaker 2: I think I had a little bit of like.
- 20:25Speaker 6: Imposter syndrome when I saw I was twenty two years
- 20:27Speaker 6: old when I started this, you know, I was like
- 20:30Speaker 6: I'm not a chef. I'm not anything, you know, and
- 20:32Speaker 6: over the years you learn nobody knows what the help's
- 20:36Speaker 6: don't worry like it's fine, you know nobody ever, everyone's
- 20:39Speaker 6: just winging it, you know, a little.
- 20:41Speaker 4: Good books you have?
- 20:42Speaker 2: I wrote read book. Sorry, I wrote three books in
- 20:46Speaker 2: six years.
- 20:47Speaker 4: That's amazing. Yeah, so did you write them yourself? I
- 20:50Speaker 4: had to.
- 20:51Speaker 6: Write them myself because only the Real Housewives get ghost writers.
- 20:56Speaker 4: Oh shit, house.
- 21:00Speaker 2: To actually write the books.
- 21:01Speaker 3: You know, my Real Housewives friends, they didn't write books.
- 21:04Speaker 2: So that's upday.
- 21:06Speaker 4: You didn't write them? No, they didn't, I know. Don't
- 21:08Speaker 4: you say you didn't write the books?
- 21:09Speaker 5: In other words, on the Real Housewives, they're given the
- 21:12Speaker 5: recipes and now they're given ghosts.
- 21:14Speaker 4: Writers' given ghostwriters.
- 21:15Speaker 2: So Real Housewives, if you would like me to write their.
- 21:17Speaker 4: Books and didn't write their book? No, maybe they didn't
- 21:19Speaker 4: write it. But are there is it their recipes?
- 21:22Speaker 3: Well, Teresa's a good cook, I mean, it's so, I mean,
- 21:25Speaker 3: but I don't know she. I don't think Theresa sat
- 21:28Speaker 3: down and wrote her book.
- 21:29Speaker 6: Well, they probably give them a recipe developer, you know,
- 21:32Speaker 6: like a like. You also can have to pay someone
- 21:35Speaker 6: to test the recipes. In most cases, that was not
- 21:39Speaker 6: my case. I worked with the small publisher for my
- 21:41Speaker 6: first two books. So my first book, I tested one
- 21:43Speaker 6: hundred and forty recipes in thirty days.
- 21:45Speaker 4: Wow.
- 21:47Speaker 2: And by the end of it I looked like I
- 21:48Speaker 2: made meth in a garage. Whoa, it was just me.
- 21:51Speaker 6: And a gallon of cars, little rosty wrong wine and
- 21:53Speaker 6: my father and a truth that like but you know,
- 21:57Speaker 6: like those experiences, I wouldn't read for anything because that was,
- 22:01Speaker 6: you know, a culinary education.
- 22:03Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a boot camp.
- 22:04Speaker 3: That's amazing when you say testing, you have to measure
- 22:07Speaker 3: everything so that you can put it in the book.
- 22:09Speaker 4: With the measures you have to give somebody.
- 22:10Speaker 3: You writing a cookbook, it can't be like the way
- 22:12Speaker 3: we Italian cook. I'll do a little bit of this,
- 22:14Speaker 3: still a little bit like we know, like when we cook,
- 22:16Speaker 3: when you cook right as us as the time. Yeah,
- 22:18Speaker 3: I don't even think about it half the time.
- 22:20Speaker 4: I'm just doing it.
- 22:21Speaker 2: You're looking at it.
- 22:21Speaker 4: You when I have a measure, No, I don't. When somebody's
- 22:24Speaker 4: asking me, how do I do that?
- 22:25Speaker 3: Like I'll give you a perfect of my sister Mary
- 22:27Speaker 3: out of us does not cook thele my whole fam.
- 22:30Speaker 4: The allest woman in my family cook. My sister Mary
- 22:32Speaker 4: was not a cook. She married a chef. She needed
- 22:34Speaker 4: to because the woman wore so she moved to foreigner
- 22:38Speaker 4: called me, and my sister asked us how to make stuffing.
- 22:42Speaker 3: For the amount of time that she called us, called
- 22:44Speaker 3: us from the park store, how much shall we mean?
- 22:47Speaker 3: I don't know what fucking so we just put a
- 22:49Speaker 3: fucking handle it because I could have made for her
- 22:51Speaker 3: and sent the toll with all this phone calls, twenty
- 22:55Speaker 3: seven messages back and forth, ask us what to do
- 22:58Speaker 3: to make this stuffing like it would have been cheap, right,
- 23:00Speaker 3: we have to do it. So when you're saying that, like,
- 23:03Speaker 3: we don't really write down like what we're doing. So
- 23:06Speaker 3: she has to be able to for someone to follow
- 23:08Speaker 3: her recipe, you had to measure it, has to measure
- 23:10Speaker 3: it out to follow it in some points at some
- 23:12Speaker 3: point of origin.
- 23:13Speaker 5: So did you have to in the thirty days every
- 23:16Speaker 5: recipe you made, you even if you were just making
- 23:19Speaker 5: your everyday sauce, you had to.
- 23:21Speaker 4: You had to measure it all.
- 23:22Speaker 6: Absolutely, I mean yeah, and if it didn't work, like
- 23:25Speaker 6: if the recipe doesn't work, I had to make it work,
- 23:28Speaker 6: you know. But the thing was is that all the
- 23:29Speaker 6: recipes that were given to me for those books came
- 23:32Speaker 6: from Italian grandmothers.
- 23:34Speaker 2: It came from the not.
- 23:35Speaker 4: And that's hard.
- 23:38Speaker 6: You know. My books are all recipes and stories from Italian,
- 23:43Speaker 6: from Italian grandmothers. Yeah, and sometimes they lie, oh yeah,
- 23:47Speaker 6: but they're like grandmother would have give us a freaking cookies.
- 23:50Speaker 3: She took that ship to her grave because nobody could
- 23:52Speaker 3: duplicate them. She didn't tell us of the ingredient for
- 23:56Speaker 3: her mamaly cookies.
- 23:57Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe.
- 23:58Speaker 4: I know that and has it. Oh, she wrote it
- 24:00Speaker 4: for us before she died.
- 24:01Speaker 3: But she didn't write everything in there because she didn't
- 24:03Speaker 3: want us to have the rest. I got very few,
- 24:06Speaker 3: and she's liftings out of her rescue. Why she didn't
- 24:10Speaker 3: want anybody to make it better than hum Absolutely that
- 24:13Speaker 3: she didn't.
- 24:14Speaker 2: I don't let those people in my books.
- 24:16Speaker 6: I spot those right away, and I'm like, there's something missing, Lucia,
- 24:21Speaker 6: where is it? Like?
- 24:22Speaker 2: I get? I get yeah, because I'm trying to do
- 24:24Speaker 2: something here.
- 24:25Speaker 6: And if they wrote a recipe down for me, it
- 24:27Speaker 6: was measured in like espresso cups.
- 24:29Speaker 4: So I have to test it yeah.
- 24:32Speaker 3: You know, so you don't any time use it measuring
- 24:34Speaker 3: cups and weightles and ships and everybody's espresso cups.
- 24:38Speaker 2: So I'm looking at it, I'm like, how much is it?
- 24:40Speaker 6: How much does this hold? I did a lot of
- 24:42Speaker 6: things by waight. I'm a master at weight, metric, imperial.
- 24:45Speaker 6: I could convert everything at math and the school these
- 24:51Speaker 6: people math amazing.
- 24:53Speaker 1: You know.
- 24:53Speaker 2: I know I have a PhD in no nan nomics.
- 24:57Speaker 4: Yes, you know. I love that. I love that. And
- 25:00Speaker 4: she teaches Italian, right, I was gonna teach. Oh my god,
- 25:04Speaker 4: would you teach me Italian? I really want to learn.
- 25:06Speaker 4: I want to learn.
- 25:07Speaker 6: That is on My Boys another show.
- 25:11Speaker 4: I've never been to Italy.
- 25:12Speaker 2: I want to learn how to go to Italy.
- 25:15Speaker 4: I know she has to go to Italy. I've been
- 25:16Speaker 4: to Italy and.
- 25:17Speaker 3: Learn how to speak Italian, but I have to live
- 25:19Speaker 3: there for a start time.
- 25:20Speaker 4: You can't go.
- 25:21Speaker 3: You have to stay there for like a month and
- 25:23Speaker 3: like six month, and let's go a villa.
- 25:26Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love to.
- 25:28Speaker 6: You should stay there from May to October and you
- 25:30Speaker 6: should come with us.
- 25:31Speaker 2: I would love to.
- 25:31Speaker 6: I actually used to run three months, stay there six months,
- 25:35Speaker 6: It'll be.
- 25:36Speaker 4: Try a month for you'll be off the ground.
- 25:38Speaker 2: Month in Italy is like fifteen seconds.
- 25:42Speaker 6: You you think I'm crazy saying this, but I swear
- 25:45Speaker 6: to God in my life, a month and I don't
- 25:47Speaker 6: know what it is.
- 25:48Speaker 2: A month in Italy feels like a day.
- 25:51Speaker 4: Really, Yes, I don't know. When I was there where
- 25:54Speaker 4: I kissed the ground.
- 25:54Speaker 3: When I came home, I swear I listen, I loved
- 25:57Speaker 3: it there, maybe.
- 25:58Speaker 4: Because I'm such a New Yorker, like I speed, but
- 26:00Speaker 4: like I was there and like I loved it. But
- 26:04Speaker 4: after the.
- 26:06Speaker 3: Probably about a week, it's fine for me to come home.
- 26:12Speaker 3: I heard that table. No, but about showers.
- 26:15Speaker 4: Do you have pressure water pressure?
- 26:17Speaker 6: No?
- 26:17Speaker 4: That was okay.
- 26:18Speaker 3: Put the air conditioning, Yeah, nobody has air conditioning.
- 26:22Speaker 4: Villains don't have It's.
- 26:25Speaker 2: Like blowing on you. It's really not strong.
- 26:27Speaker 6: They don't have ice, and they don't have air conditioning.
- 26:29Speaker 6: And they don't have toilet paper or toilet seats.
- 26:31Speaker 5: Wait, what do you mean don't what do you wipe
- 26:33Speaker 5: your hand with your you asked you the day.
- 26:35Speaker 6: A lot of them have no some like if you
- 26:37Speaker 6: go to like a restaurant, If you go to a restaurant.
- 26:39Speaker 2: This is mostly in the South.
- 26:41Speaker 6: Okay, if you go to a restaurant in the South
- 26:43Speaker 6: or a cafe or whatever, ninety percent of the time
- 26:46Speaker 6: there's no toilet seat and there's you know, how do
- 26:50Speaker 6: I really.
- 26:50Speaker 4: Want to have?
- 26:51Speaker 2: You got to like bring it with you. You gotta
- 26:53Speaker 2: be created, you.
- 26:53Speaker 3: Gotta What do you mean that they're disregarding toilet paper.
- 26:56Speaker 6: I'm not in the service. They're not on top of
- 27:00Speaker 6: like hiji.
- 27:02Speaker 2: No, it's servant.
- 27:04Speaker 4: Sound like the gene.
- 27:09Speaker 6: The bidet is very hygienic, Yes, it is. They do
- 27:12Speaker 6: like their bidets. The bidet is very hygienic. I mean,
- 27:15Speaker 6: I'd appreciate knowing that a guy's washing his brazole like
- 27:20Speaker 6: time goes to the bed.
- 27:20Speaker 3: No, but I don't appreciate the fact that there's no toilet.
- 27:24Speaker 4: You're coming out, What did you do with your hands?
- 27:26Speaker 4: What are you wiping?
- 27:27Speaker 3: Well? Like you did not just pulling walking.
- 27:32Speaker 6: With shit on your ass. No, you think, oh, I
- 27:34Speaker 6: gotta go to the bathroom. Let me grab the napkins.
- 27:36Speaker 4: They make it.
- 27:37Speaker 3: You have to make sure you take it with you.
- 27:39Speaker 3: I mean I didn't have that experience.
- 27:40Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five Get with the program Italy. In Northern Italy,
- 27:44Speaker 4: I didn't have that experience.
- 27:45Speaker 3: No, they don't in northern Italy. They're a little they're
- 27:48Speaker 3: different in you. I would pack toilet paper with me.
- 27:51Speaker 3: Then now I not have to bring the wipes. Bring
- 27:54Speaker 3: the wipe.
- 27:55Speaker 2: You'll be fine.
- 27:55Speaker 4: You'll bring pipes, we'll in hygiene.
- 28:00Speaker 3: Well, the country is so beautiful that you forget that.
- 28:04Speaker 2: You like, you're not worried about it.
- 28:06Speaker 4: It is. It's breathtaking. You're gotta go to diables. I
- 28:09Speaker 4: gotta go to just just smells everything. It's just so beautiful, the.
- 28:12Speaker 2: Air, the sounds and everything. It's a different environment.
- 28:17Speaker 4: Yeah, it's beautiful. We should come up with an idea.
- 28:21Speaker 5: Well, we have Italian girls, a big bunch of us,
- 28:25Speaker 5: go to a villa for a month and create something.
- 28:29Speaker 4: I create something. We should do that. Do we leave?
- 28:34Speaker 3: Can we go tomorrow, Let's go right after, Let's let's
- 28:38Speaker 3: go right after.
- 28:39Speaker 4: I love to do that.
- 28:40Speaker 2: Don't threaten me with a good time.
- 28:41Speaker 4: Let's do it. I think we should. I'm ready to go.
- 28:43Speaker 4: I need to meet my family in Naples.
- 28:45Speaker 6: I'm like uncomfortable with the fact that you haven't been.
- 28:48Speaker 3: Saiducci's and say the hygiene.
- 28:52Speaker 2: But there's Ducci in her town. And she has never
- 28:58Speaker 2: been there.
- 28:58Speaker 5: I know, I feel like I would me the person
- 29:00Speaker 5: that would buy something there and stay there and never
- 29:02Speaker 5: want to leave. I do feel like that, I think
- 29:06Speaker 5: now and the position I am now, I'm that I
- 29:10Speaker 5: could stay there for a much longer time.
- 29:12Speaker 2: Really.
- 29:12Speaker 3: Yeah, I think when I went back then and I
- 29:14Speaker 3: was with my daughter and she was driving me crazy,
- 29:17Speaker 3: That's probably why I wanted to go home, because Shent
- 29:19Speaker 3: have cable and you know, everything is white Wi Fi
- 29:24Speaker 3: al other. Yeah, so that was probably the issue. Was
- 29:26Speaker 3: probably more nervous that I was there with her. But
- 29:29Speaker 3: I think when i'm when I'm there the last well,
- 29:32Speaker 3: I was in Northern nearly the last couple of times.
- 29:34Speaker 3: But I loved it death, I mean it was it's breathtaking.
- 29:38Speaker 3: Florence is breathtaking, port A Fino's breathtaking. I mean it's
- 29:43Speaker 3: just it's just a beautiful, beautiful atmosphere and the people
- 29:46Speaker 3: are amazing.
- 29:47Speaker 2: I'm from a little town.
- 29:48Speaker 6: Both my parents are actually from the same town on
- 29:51Speaker 6: the Adriatic coast, on Bodies, so it's yeah, in Pulia.
- 29:54Speaker 6: There's a little town called Moladi Body and my whole
- 29:57Speaker 6: family came from there. So I grew up up, going
- 30:00Speaker 6: there for three months a year every summer. Because Italian
- 30:03Speaker 6: was my first language. I went to school. I didn't
- 30:07Speaker 6: learn English until I was five.
- 30:09Speaker 4: We weren't you were born in Italy?
- 30:10Speaker 2: No, I was born in Brooklyn. But oh shit, in
- 30:13Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven. Yeah, Brooklyn was you know, it was
- 30:17Speaker 2: Italy back then.
- 30:18Speaker 4: It was like that for us too when I was
- 30:20Speaker 4: growing up.
- 30:20Speaker 3: I mean a lot of people who came to this country,
- 30:23Speaker 3: they didn't learn their first lang. My nephew, my nephew,
- 30:26Speaker 3: my son in law's first language was Italian and he
- 30:28Speaker 3: was born here. I mean his first language was Italian.
- 30:31Speaker 6: Yeah. We My mother and I still pretty much only
- 30:34Speaker 6: speak to each other in Italian.
- 30:37Speaker 4: It's just still all I was gonna change.
- 30:40Speaker 6: My mom has lived with us growing up, so you know,
- 30:42Speaker 6: she only spoke Italian. She didn't speak English. She still
- 30:45Speaker 6: doesn't speak English. She's been here sixty years. She doesn't
- 30:47Speaker 6: speak English.
- 30:48Speaker 4: Can you say something in Italian?
- 30:49Speaker 5: Say, couldn't we take a trip to Italy after New Year's.
- 30:53Speaker 6: But sama far and viagania?
- 30:56Speaker 4: See I love it?
- 30:57Speaker 3: See see yes tonight, let's go. No hygiene, nogene, But
- 31:03Speaker 3: by the hygiene by.
- 31:05Speaker 6: The time I was seven, I didn't want to speak
- 31:07Speaker 6: Italian anymore because I was in school and you know,
- 31:10Speaker 6: how to make fun of you. My parents went, uh oh,
- 31:13Speaker 6: so what like the solution to this is mail heart
- 31:16Speaker 6: to Italy with Nonna for the whole summer without my parents,
- 31:20Speaker 6: and that started our process of spending the summers in
- 31:24Speaker 6: Italy like a student school would end.
- 31:25Speaker 2: It was like go to the airport and you know.
- 31:27Speaker 3: And that now it was probably the best of both
- 31:33Speaker 3: world I did.
- 31:34Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm I'm great. You know, I always say God
- 31:36Speaker 6: could have made me absolutely anybody. He could have made
- 31:41Speaker 6: me like starving in the Sudan. Why did he make
- 31:45Speaker 6: me Rosella from benson Hurst, Italian American from this from
- 31:51Speaker 6: where I'm from, with these skills, you know, he could
- 31:54Speaker 6: have made me completely talentless. He could have made me
- 31:58Speaker 6: such an idiot, and he made me exactly the way
- 32:02Speaker 6: that I am.
- 32:02Speaker 2: And I'm like so grateful for everywhere I've come.
- 32:06Speaker 4: From, such a great energy.
- 32:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so glad that like I finally met you
- 32:10Speaker 3: in person, because we would we would you know, I
- 32:12Speaker 3: would like her staff. I would listen and she would like,
- 32:14Speaker 3: you know, i'd see you like my stuff and I
- 32:16Speaker 3: mean just never met you when you just got a
- 32:19Speaker 3: great energy.
- 32:20Speaker 4: You guys wonderful.
- 32:21Speaker 2: I feel like my girlfriends, Oh well you were Italy.
- 32:24Speaker 4: I mean were it next month?
- 32:26Speaker 3: So that like, yeah, we have to thank god we
- 32:28Speaker 3: like each other because you can't make it and with
- 32:31Speaker 3: you know, going on vacation unless you like the people.
- 32:33Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's my ex husband will prove that
- 32:36Speaker 6: Italy didn't fix that.
- 32:38Speaker 4: Oh shit, I'm kidding.
- 32:43Speaker 3: So tell us tell everybody where they could find you,
- 32:46Speaker 3: and give them and let them know where they could
- 32:48Speaker 3: purchase your cookbooks. And I hope I want to get
- 32:51Speaker 3: a copy of one.
- 32:52Speaker 4: I know.
- 32:52Speaker 2: I'm sorry I'm such a strut that didn't bring one today.
- 32:55Speaker 4: You could visit me. I'm in I'm in the neighborhood.
- 32:59Speaker 4: Visit me, un we'll go have lunch.
- 33:01Speaker 5: I do a really good accent and fake Italian like
- 33:04Speaker 5: I could do an Italian accent.
- 33:05Speaker 4: I want to hear it. Yes, uh, let me see.
- 33:10Speaker 5: Well English Italian accent, but I do it different than
- 33:13Speaker 5: people go.
- 33:13Speaker 4: What's to do?
- 33:15Speaker 2: No, that's not real.
- 33:16Speaker 4: I don't do that. So what could I say? Give
- 33:19Speaker 4: me something to say? Tell us where to find you?
- 33:23Speaker 5: Oh, let me I gotta do. I gotta hold on.
- 33:28Speaker 5: You see, wait, wait hold on, let me you find me.
- 33:33Speaker 5: You know, I gotta be in a little bit of talk.
- 33:35Speaker 2: Say I want to go to the restaurant.
- 33:37Speaker 4: I want I want to go to the restaurant. It's
- 33:40Speaker 4: not bad. I want to restaurant.
- 33:43Speaker 2: It's really not bad.
- 33:44Speaker 4: I do that. Okay, I want to go to the restaurant.
- 33:46Speaker 2: You should go out and meet a guy.
- 33:48Speaker 4: And they don't say h. My husband H Yeah.
- 33:55Speaker 6: No, my mother started trying to say H. And what
- 33:58Speaker 6: she loves to say when someone's you know, a little slow.
- 34:00Speaker 2: She goes through said that guy the elevata does not go.
- 34:03Speaker 3: To the car, the elevator, the elevator on the elevator.
- 34:09Speaker 4: I love the elevator.
- 34:10Speaker 2: So funny because I was like, no, you gotta say h.
- 34:13Speaker 2: She's like, so now she's very aware of it.
- 34:15Speaker 4: So now she's saying it.
- 34:16Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 34:17Speaker 3: I love to get you mother on the show with us.
- 34:19Speaker 3: That would be fun all I would love to have.
- 34:24Speaker 3: That would be great hour show.
- 34:26Speaker 4: I don't care.
- 34:28Speaker 3: I'll make the whole the whole time I'm here.
- 34:31Speaker 4: I love that.
- 34:32Speaker 6: Yeah, she's she's a lot of things, my mother. You know,
- 34:34Speaker 6: she's very she's wonderful, she's you'd love her. Everybody loves her.
- 34:37Speaker 4: Well, I would love to meet her.
- 34:39Speaker 2: She can, I'll bring her all right, problem.
- 34:42Speaker 4: I don't care. We're exchanging numbers. You and I were friends. Now,
- 34:45Speaker 4: that's it. That's that's it. That's it. Forget about it.
- 34:50Speaker 4: That's it. That's it. I e spread I expect to
- 34:52Speaker 4: forget about it.
- 34:54Speaker 2: Says that's it.
- 34:55Speaker 4: That's it. That's that's it. So let everybody know what
- 34:59Speaker 4: they could mind you because we wanna. I wanna. I'm
- 35:01Speaker 4: gonna tag it on my YouTube channel too.
- 35:04Speaker 2: So you can find me at Rossella Rago.
- 35:07Speaker 6: My online shop is Bottega Della dot com. I know
- 35:10Speaker 6: it's a really tough name, but Botega was already.
- 35:12Speaker 2: Taken and it was I'm trying.
- 35:16Speaker 6: And my books are available wherever books are sold, or
- 35:19Speaker 6: on my website for autograph copies.
- 35:22Speaker 3: Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. Thank you so much for coming
- 35:29Speaker 3: in and a and it was such a pleasure to
- 35:32Speaker 3: finally meet you in person. I love you, and you're
- 35:34Speaker 3: coming back and we'll go in to Italy.
- 35:36Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm with my mother and your grandmother.
- 35:39Speaker 4: No not let it come to we love it. Yes,
- 35:42Speaker 4: I'm excited to so.
- 35:44Speaker 3: If you are interested in old school Italian express so
- 35:50Speaker 3: a lot, take cappuccino or Pannini's pastries.
- 35:53Speaker 4: Dolti.
- 35:53Speaker 3: Being cafe in the heart of Ridgewal, Queens is where
- 35:56Speaker 3: you have to try it. Everybody tell them that Jen
- 35:59Speaker 3: sent you there, Dulce Bean Cafe Helm Jen sent you.
- 36:02Speaker 3: Have a wonderful day and I'm so glad we had
- 36:04Speaker 3: a great show today.
- 36:05Speaker 4: Thank you for coming with the best. Thank you, Thank
- 36:09Speaker 4: you ladies. That was so great.