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Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s Royal Wedding, Cardi B’s CNN Moment, & a Wild Fourth of July · Two Personal with Joy Taylor

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  Speaker 1: I don't think that we should only look to celebrities
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  Speaker 1: for political opinions or for truth. But hey, guys, welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Personal. I'm Joy Taylor. Thanks so much for joining me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so used to saying that every day on my
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  Speaker 1: show that now like my bits are mixed up. Hope
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  Speaker 1: you guys had a fun White Man Independence Day weekend.
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  Speaker 1: I went to a couple cookouts, watched some soccer, went
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  Speaker 1: to a Dodgers game.
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  Speaker 2: I had a cute too little weekend.
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  Speaker 1: It was I also, if you can hear if I
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  Speaker 1: sound a little funny, I came from the dentist this
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  Speaker 1: morning because I am on round three of in bizzi Line.
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  Speaker 3: Round three.
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  Speaker 2: Why so, Mimi, Well, the first one wasn't in Biziligne.
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  Speaker 2: The first one was.
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  Speaker 3: The the one at Macy's.
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  Speaker 1: I forget the other one, yeah, the purple one. So
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  Speaker 1: the first one was the purple one and it helped,
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  Speaker 1: but it didn't fix it because it wasn't with a dentist.
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  Speaker 1: So it didn't fix exactly what I wanted to fix.
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  Speaker 1: The second one was with the dentist, but I didn't
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  Speaker 1: get the permanent retainer in and so my teeth just
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  Speaker 1: like to wiggle mine too. And so this is the
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  Speaker 1: third time, and the third time we're gonna get it right.
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  Speaker 1: But you guys are gonna have to deal with a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a lip because I'm wearing these all right. Also,
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  Speaker 1: the last time I got it, I was still doing heard,
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  Speaker 1: so I was on air for three hours a day
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  Speaker 1: when I wasn't wearing it. And I also, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you don't wear it when you eat or drink, so
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  Speaker 1: basically four hours of the day I wasn't wearing it,
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  Speaker 1: so I had to wear it for longer, which was
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  Speaker 1: such a pain in the ass. So sorry, if I
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  Speaker 1: sound a little weird, I'll get used to it.
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  Speaker 2: And I have the like extendos too, you got the
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  Speaker 2: full package. They're called attachments.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, so that's why I sound a little funny
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  Speaker 1: and look a little funny probably too. But thanks for
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  Speaker 1: hanging out with us. Hope you enjoyed the holiday weekends.
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  Speaker 1: What did you get into, Hayley.
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  Speaker 3: I was camping. Well, I like to consider it glamping.
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  Speaker 3: I was not in attent, okay, I was not among dirt.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So you went in a very furnished you went to
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  Speaker 3: a cabin, was an RV, there were cabins. It was
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  Speaker 3: like a resort, honestly, Like there was a water park,
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  Speaker 3: you could launch your jet skis, your boats, restaurant, barn,
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  Speaker 3: all the things. So I'm very Americana, you will speaking
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  Speaker 3: of on fourth of July. So on Saturday, there was
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  Speaker 3: this woman interrogating everybody in their camp site. So how
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  Speaker 3: it's set up is you have like a little it's
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  Speaker 3: like a little driveway. So if that's your RV space,
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  Speaker 3: you have your RV and then you've got like a
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  Speaker 3: little patio area, or if that's your cabin, you've got
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  Speaker 3: your cabin in a patio. But everyone has a sight, okay.
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  Speaker 3: So she's going up to people on their sites who
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  Speaker 3: are playing music, mining their business and cussing them out
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  Speaker 3: about the music that they're playing and saying they're not American. Like.
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  Speaker 3: So she started with the Spanish family that was playing bad.
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  Speaker 3: Bunny said that this is effing America. The hell are
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  Speaker 3: they doing here? They need to leave? Why are they
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  Speaker 3: playing bad? Bunny he's a communist. Did you see a
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl performance? I have a black daughter in law.
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  Speaker 3: He's racist, not a.
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  Speaker 2: Black daughter in law.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, all these things, cussing them out, yes, right, Karen.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't witness the conversation. I heard screaming, couldn't figure
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  Speaker 3: out who she was yelling at, like during the entail
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  Speaker 3: end of it, right, talk to the people. A couple
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  Speaker 3: hours later, well, a few hours after that, I'm in
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  Speaker 3: the shower. She's now messing with the family next to us,
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  Speaker 3: who's an Indian family, and they were playing Indian music,
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  Speaker 3: which I thought was lovely. It was upbeat, it felt
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  Speaker 3: like hip hop. It just was the different language, right,
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  Speaker 3: same thing. F you, this is America, you're not American. Like,
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  Speaker 3: get the f out of this is camp site, all
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  Speaker 3: of these things, and I like run out in my towel,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like hitting my family, like yo, like, go
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  Speaker 3: see what's going on. Go see what's going on. Because
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  Speaker 3: I'm the type of person I pray that these situations
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  Speaker 3: happen to me.
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  Speaker 2: I do not because I like my freedom.
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  Speaker 3: And these people were turning off their music. No, they
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  Speaker 3: were letting they were being bullied by this woman. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: turning the music off, abiding by her made up rules.
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  Speaker 3: And first of all, what do you mean not American
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  Speaker 3: like people minding their business, enjoying their family, being safe.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean the goal of a Karen really the
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  Speaker 1: purpose is to be in other people's business, like to
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  Speaker 1: be in business that is not yours, which is something
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  Speaker 1: I personally have never understood because I have enough on
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  Speaker 1: my hands with my own business to be in other
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  Speaker 1: people's business.
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  Speaker 2: It's just not interesting to me.
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  Speaker 1: And if this, if this situation is not impeding on
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  Speaker 1: your experience, like if they're not playing music so loud
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  Speaker 1: no one else can hear their music, then why are
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  Speaker 1: you bothering them?
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  Speaker 2: Also, both of her.
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  Speaker 1: To assume in America that this is not going to
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  Speaker 1: be considered a threat, because that's that's what I would assume,
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  Speaker 1: is that I'm being threatened. I'm not turning off anybody's music.
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  Speaker 2: I think that.
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  Speaker 1: The conversation about who is was I'm ssuming this is
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  Speaker 1: a white woman?
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  Speaker 3: No, who's hispanic? Yep, I don't know the origin, but
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  Speaker 3: she was not white?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? Well right?
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  Speaker 1: The ones that think that they're white are beyond my comprehension,
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  Speaker 1: Like you got you're finding out that you're not slowly
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  Speaker 1: but surely the whites are letting you know you're not
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  Speaker 1: one of them. I do not understand the obsession with
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  Speaker 1: the proximity to whiteness.
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  Speaker 2: It's very very weird to me.
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  Speaker 1: It's very dangerous, and it's it's felt so very silly,
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  Speaker 1: because a big part of what's happening in the US,
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  Speaker 1: particularly with Ice, is.
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  Speaker 2: Very should be very much let you know that they
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  Speaker 2: don't think that you're white.
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  Speaker 1: I mean beyond that though, while she's costplaying white and
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  Speaker 1: participating in Karen activity, the idea that.
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  Speaker 2: One anybody owes you anything on any.
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  Speaker 1: Particular day, like the fourth of July, you can play
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  Speaker 1: like there's not some law that you.
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  Speaker 2: What is American music anyway? What is American music? Urban?
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  Speaker 3: I huh, I was playing spin that, I was playing
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  Speaker 3: me some coy La ray. I had some kindred going
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  Speaker 3: with right, Like what.
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  Speaker 2: Is American music?
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  Speaker 1: First of all, that they can't be playing bad bunny
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  Speaker 1: in Indian music and America is about being a melting
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  Speaker 1: pot like that is the entire points of the country.
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  Speaker 1: And this constant conversation about who is American and who
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  Speaker 1: is an American and acting American and being proud of
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  Speaker 1: being American is exhausting.
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  Speaker 2: Again. I don't have these conversations with human beings in real.
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  Speaker 1: Life because I have thankfully curated a group of humans
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  Speaker 1: around me that can read books. So I really don't
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  Speaker 1: ever have to have these conversations. And I would absolutely
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  Speaker 1: obserate anyone who bothered to try and come up to
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  Speaker 1: me and have this conversation. But I have a very
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  Speaker 1: good fuck off face. It's very effective. I exude fuck
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  Speaker 1: off energy when I don't want to interact with someone
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  Speaker 1: or when I want something to happen, like I'm a witch.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think people know who to mess with and
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  Speaker 3: who not to mess with.
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  Speaker 1: They do, but I don't like that because that's me.
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  Speaker 1: That's bully behavior. And the way that these people get
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  Speaker 1: away with it is by targeting people who they know
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  Speaker 1: don't want any problems and will submit to their ridiculous,
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  Speaker 1: absurd demands. Like I'm the If she came over, I
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  Speaker 1: would turn the music up louder. I would turn it
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  Speaker 1: up so loud to drown her out. At the very least,
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  Speaker 1: what is she going to do? At the very least,
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  Speaker 1: what are you going to do? What are you going
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  Speaker 1: to do?
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  Speaker 3: I was praying she was gonna come up to me.
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  Speaker 2: She didn't know we are nons.
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  Speaker 3: It may not been a physical lesson, but she needed
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  Speaker 3: to learn, like, you can't just control everything.
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  Speaker 1: But when people submit to people like that, they empower
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  Speaker 1: them to continue that behavior, which is sad.
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  Speaker 2: But fuck that lady. I hope she sounded a terrible dare.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was wild. Also on the campsite, when did
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  Speaker 3: parents stop supervising their children? Like it's still the nineties
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  Speaker 3: and everything is aokay? Because when I tell you there
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  Speaker 3: were two and three and one year old little toddlers
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  Speaker 3: on their little toddler scooters just roam in the campsite
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  Speaker 3: and their parents were nowhere to be found.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that what you're supposed to be doing at camp?
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  Speaker 3: Here's the thing. When you drive into this campsite, it's
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  Speaker 3: not like security, like anyone can drive it. You don't
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  Speaker 3: know what's in their car. I don't know if you're
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  Speaker 3: a predator. I don't know if you're just a regular camper.
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  Speaker 3: My kid is not running off alone.
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  Speaker 2: I think, But your kid isn't with other kids? Right?
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  Speaker 3: True? But okay, then he made friends with the kids
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  Speaker 3: next door, right, And I still was behind the scooters.
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  Speaker 2: See, I don't know. Hey, I don't to them on
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  Speaker 2: the other side on this.
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  Speaker 1: I think them on the other side on this, you
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six parents, you do too much, okay.
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  Speaker 3: If as a predator on the other side plan like there.
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  Speaker 1: Camping there, probably is. The odds are not in our favor, okay,
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  Speaker 1: And we're learning more and more every day that they're
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  Speaker 1: not in our favorite. Are our kids our when we
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  Speaker 1: when I was.
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  Speaker 2: A kid, I.
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  Speaker 1: Was given very clear instructions on if I valued my life,
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  Speaker 1: how to behave and not from other people, from what
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  Speaker 1: would happened to me in my own home.
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  Speaker 2: But misbehaved, we were.
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  Speaker 1: Left alone at home, We roamed the streets, We did
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  Speaker 1: all types of dangerous shit all day long, and some
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  Speaker 1: of us made it and some of us did it, okay,
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  Speaker 1: but nothing has changed. I think twenty twenty six parents
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  Speaker 1: know too much and they researched too much. Like I
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  Speaker 1: have friends who have had babies recently, and I've straight
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  Speaker 1: up told him, like, I'm not going on this anti
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  Speaker 1: vax raw milk.
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  Speaker 3: I I went down that hall.
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  Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck what you are. Not a doctor,
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Give a fuck what you think about anything. You don't
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  Speaker 1: know shit. You don't know more shit than the last
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  Speaker 1: generation knew. Just stop it, Stop it, you guys overwhelm
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  Speaker 1: yourself with information. The kids have to skin their knees, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: they've got to climb a tree, They've got to get
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  Speaker 1: in some dirt.
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  Speaker 2: That's the problem.
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  Speaker 1: They're all insulated and like, listen, I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 1: you should let your kids go play by a lake
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  Speaker 1: if they can't swim or not. Keep an eye on them, right, like,
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  Speaker 1: you keep an eye on them, but man like, well.
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  Speaker 3: When he hit that corner with them kids on the
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  Speaker 3: electric scooters and Aiden's trying to and I could no
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  Speaker 3: longer see him the way my track ears came, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 1: You guys did not make it seem like it's fun
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  Speaker 1: experience because kids, kids are constant like, they are constantly watched.
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  Speaker 1: They can't have red dye, right, they can't have a
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  Speaker 1: Sodie pop.
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  Speaker 2: It's too much.
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  Speaker 3: When you guys get rest, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Our parents didn't give a fuck. They were like, get
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  Speaker 1: out of the house, don't come back until it's dark out.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care what you do.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that was me, That was me, But I
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  Speaker 3: knew the shit I got into. And Aiden is square
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  Speaker 3: you cause he's a child.
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  Speaker 2: That's what You were a.
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  Speaker 1: Square once and then you got unsquared by going out
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  Speaker 1: and doing unsquare stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I was a little less square at six.
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  Speaker 2: He's sick.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean you were less square. We're not
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  Speaker 1: talking about a sixteen year old. Also, that doesn't even matter.
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  Speaker 1: Like you have to you have to be able to
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  Speaker 1: make mistakes. You've got to be able to consume something.
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  Speaker 1: Drink out of a hose, drink some hose water. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: eat some mud pie. They'll be fine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I brought suitcases to the campsite. I had two suitcases.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: See, you're the problem. I'm just saying, keep an eye
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  Speaker 1: on your kids. I think he should keep eye on
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  Speaker 1: your kids. But I do think that twenty twenty six
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  Speaker 1: parents are doing too much. We have a mutual friend
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  Speaker 1: who has a child who is six feet tall.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that man.
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  Speaker 1: Can stay at home by himself. Don't touch the stove. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you got a cell phone, you got cameras, you got
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  Speaker 1: a fucking alarm system, you got a dog. The fuck
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  Speaker 1: he's just gonna sit there and play video games. Damn
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  Speaker 1: you can't go to dinner for three hours.
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  Speaker 3: I'll ease up at twelve, but right now, well he's six.
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  Speaker 2: You shouldn't ease up at six. But I'm just saying,
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  Speaker 2: like he can go out.
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  Speaker 1: The point of going to a campsite is so he
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  Speaker 1: can go do camp shit.
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  Speaker 3: No, yeah, I was just with him.
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  Speaker 2: I was a baking.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you should leave your child alone in
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  Speaker 1: the woods. Okay, that's not what I'm suggesting. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: suggesting keeping an eye on them while allowing them.
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  Speaker 2: To you know, like we went to we went to
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  Speaker 2: the woods and just ran. I mean, I had poison
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  Speaker 2: ivy every.
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  Speaker 1: Like clockwork. I got poison Sumac once. I don't remember.
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  Speaker 1: I don't recommend that you had. You had a yeah, awful,
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: what is that? It's a step up from uh, poison ivy.
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  Speaker 1: I looked like the guy from the Goonies for real,
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: you guys, that's what I look like. My whole face
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  Speaker 1: was like like hitch to insert a right, I have
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  Speaker 1: a photo summer.
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  Speaker 2: It was literally insane.
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  Speaker 1: But you need that, you need to you need to
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  Speaker 1: go outside in the woods, not too far from your parents. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything crazy. I'm just saying, like, man,
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  Speaker 1: there are some things from the old school that we
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: could We could run, we could run back, we could
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  Speaker 1: spin the block on. And like we constantly complained about
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  Speaker 1: screen time and them getting sucked into AI and not
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  Speaker 1: being able to interact with other humans. Like part of
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  Speaker 1: that was like going camping and meeting some kids and
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  Speaker 1: like you know, building a dirt fort or whatever. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know they need to do that. Yeah, without worrying
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  Speaker 1: about their cuticles. They'll be fine. And maybe they eat
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: like a you know, a popsicle that isn't organic.
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  Speaker 3: I'll do uh, I'll try it out.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not parents shaming you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying I get pitched on a child at
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  Speaker 1: least once a week, and like it doesn't sound appealing,
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  Speaker 1: sounds like sounds like double a work.
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  Speaker 3: It's stressful, it's stressful.
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  Speaker 2: What else is gonna Uh?
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  Speaker 3: Did you see Cardi B's interview with CNN?
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  Speaker 2: I did I did our good cis first of.
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  Speaker 3: All, love Cardi. She love Cardi no wrong in my eyes.
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  Speaker 3: I love that she said that she wanted to give
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  Speaker 3: Black Americans their flowers, especially this weekend, because she feels
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  Speaker 3: that they've paved the way for her family. And many
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  Speaker 3: Caribbean immigrants to succeed in the US. She did also
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  Speaker 3: express her concern about efforts to erase history, then stopped
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  Speaker 3: herself because she didn't want to get in trouble and
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  Speaker 3: get too political, which I'm my girl, like it's.
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  Speaker 2: Fine, everything is political.
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  Speaker 3: I just love that she stands on business and she
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  Speaker 3: says what people don't say out loud, and she said
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  Speaker 3: it at Essence Fest fourth of July weekend. I feel
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  Speaker 3: it's important for people to remember that. I think people
• 15:18
  Speaker 3: get confused with like African American, Afro latinaban.
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  Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean, there's there's a very large, untold,
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  Speaker 1: to her point, untold history about the slave trade where
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  Speaker 1: slaves were taken.
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  Speaker 2: We never talk about Brazil.
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  Speaker 1: We don't talk a lot about the slave trade into
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  Speaker 1: the Caribbean. We don't talk about, uh, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: Haitian Revolution like that. We don't we don't talk about
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  Speaker 1: the relationship between all of these countries, between the transatlantic
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  Speaker 1: slave trade and how that in colonialism shifted the entire world.
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  Speaker 2: But like most people aren't really interested in that.
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  Speaker 1: And when it comes to the states, particularly like the
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  Speaker 1: United States and not all of the Americas, which is
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  Speaker 1: I think something that has been exciting for people to
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  Speaker 1: learn that there are some other places in the Americas,
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  Speaker 1: not just the United States of America. If you've been
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: following any of the World Cup, I feel like people
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  Speaker 1: got a little education on that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean history is important to her point.
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  Speaker 1: What I love that CARTI remains steadfast in talking about
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  Speaker 1: these things. Is part of the reason why they're racing
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  Speaker 1: history outside of education in general, is because if you
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  Speaker 1: know history, if you study history, if you're interested in
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: history and learning it.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: It opens your eyes to a lot of different.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Reasons why the way things are the way that they are.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I love history. I love learning about history. The more
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: you learn about history, sometimes the anger the more angry
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: you become, the more aware you become, the more questions
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: you ask. An uneducated population is an easier population to control.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: It's an easier population.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: To gaslight, it's an easier population to manipulate because if
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: you aren't asking questions, if you don't know the truth,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: if you don't know how things were and how things
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: came to be, then it's very easy for them to
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: say brown people are the reason why you don't have jobs.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: It's very easy for them to say that there is.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: There's a difference in the way that Latinas matter or
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Latinos matter in the United.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: States from the way that black people do. I mean the.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Story that you're telling earlier about this Mexican or likely
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Mexican woman running around at a campsite telling people they're
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: not American, like Mitch, don't let I show up, We'll
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: send them right to you. So the lack of awareness,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: the manipulation to this sort of like nationalists mentality that
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: somehow we are all each other's enemy and the elites
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: are not is very easy to pitch because people don't
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: want to know the truth.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: It's easy.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: It's like when people complain about politics and they're like, oh,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: like I just don't want to talk about.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Politics, like maybe everything is political.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And in these times, sitting back and saying that
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: you're not political is either saying that you are complicit,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: which is not something to be proud of, or that
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: you're benefiting from everything that's happening, which usually it's pretty
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: obvious in most cases from people that say things like that, Yeah,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: it can be exhausting, Yes you should tap out sometimes,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: but it's also important that if you are a person
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: that has any kind of education or interest in it
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: in the way that Cardi does. Because I don't think
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: that we should only look to celebrities for political opinions
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: or for truth. But if you are a celebrity, or
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: you're someone with a platform that feels passionate about it,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: then you should use it. I mean, I don't pretend
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: to know everything that's going on at all times, but
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I certainly care.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: A lot about it.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: And when I'm educated or when I feel passionate about something,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I talk about it.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: And I think that's important.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I think so too, And I don't think you should stop.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: Uh speaking of American did you hear about the American
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Royal wedding?
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Is that what they're calling this?
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, which is we'll get there. But so Taylor Swift
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: and Travis Kelce, for those of you who may not know,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: we're married over the weekend at about a thousand guests
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: at Madison Square Garden, insane phones were taken, obviously. So
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: I'm sure we will see this televis somewhere in the future,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: is my prediction. I'm sure it's going to be in
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: a documentary that.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Hasn't even occurred to me.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: That was my first thought. When they said they took
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: their phones. Oh they're filming, she records everything.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: A documentary about the wedding.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: It's got to be in.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think taking the phones is fair. Most
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: celebrities either cover people's phones or ask them not to
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: take photos, which in this case, like asking is is
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: not enough, Like you do have to take people's phones,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: especially what do they have a thousand people there? Yeah,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: that's too many people to trust that they're some leaked footage. Yeah,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: so they were right to take their phones. But wow,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: it hadn't occurred to me that they might be.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: That's my prediction. I will see what happens, will follow up. Okay,
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: My thing is, since when did they become the American
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: royal couple to have an American royal wedding, Like, we
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: don't even have royals here.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: We don't have royals here, no kings, no kings allowed. Yeah,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: I didn't. I did not agree to this. I did not.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: I did not agree to the to the royal title.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I will say I've thought a lot about this wedding,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: obviously because it's been absolutely everywhere.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: It's not what I would have done.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: I am a pretty private person and I did have
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: a big wedding when I was married two hundred and fifty,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: which is a lot.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: It's a lot, it's a lot, it's a big wedding.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Having done that, I would not want to have a
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: big wedding again. If I got remarried and the person
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I was marrying wanted to have a big wedding, I.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Would try to talk to the about a bit. If
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent, I would alope. Yeah, yeah, if it's
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: up to me, I'm eloping one hundred percent.
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Would you elope and then have like a party after
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: or just a lope?
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: No, just a lobek. Yeah, it's no, no party, no
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: need for all that. I'm celebrated quite a bit.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't need that. But but I I
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: thought about it because.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I'm like, is it unfair that I am judging this,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: you know choice when I.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Had a big wedding, because I had.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: With the equivalent for me being Swift and Travis Kelcey
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: of a big wedding, you know what I mean?
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Like I had the equivalent of that.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: A ton of people aout it, posted pictures. I think
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the location is weird, Like I gotta I have to
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: say that, Like I can't.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: I can't front. The location is odd. I do get it.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: From a security standpoint, it.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Makes a lot of sense because if you have that
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: many people and they're that famous and you want them
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: to get in and out and be able to like
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: secure the perimeter, so to speak, having it in an
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: enclosed space makes sense.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: But like, what's romantic about MSG, I don't know.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I mean they say her, uh one of her first
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: performs that a performance or are some competition. She was
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: twelve or thirteen there, so there was like a little
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: nostalgic situation going on. But still, I mean it's very still,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: very intense.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: I don't like the location, but.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: Their relationship is intense. Oh it's been America story.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: You know. I don't care about celebrity relationships, Like I
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: can't pretend like I do.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know these people, so I don't.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I can't pretend to like be involved in what is
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: shown publicly, Like I know too much about how people
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: move in private in these public relationships to like buy
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: into the lore of it all. I know, people get
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: super interested and super invested, especially when they're fans of
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: these people. So I get it, Like I one hundred
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: percent understand why people are following this to me, Like,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: if you're asking my opinion, I would not have gotten
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: married to MSG. I think there are more romantic, more
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: beautiful places that you could have massive weddings at. I mean,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: famous billionaire people have incredibly private weddings all over the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: world at beautiful places, like they're able to secure who
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: gets in and out, whether there's photos taken, whether there's
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: drones over it. Like beyond saying Jays got married, right,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: famous people get married. Zenda and Tom Holland just got married,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: we have not seen a single photo from that wedding,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: so like you can do it, So I am, I
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: do want to know, Like I don't. I haven't seen
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: anyone from their camp, like explain why it's there. But yeah,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I the guests looks beautiful. I have
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: had the soul search though, because I'm like, I had
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: a big wedding, and I would advise anyone who's getting
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: married not big wedding.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Yet, well probably because you did it, because.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I did it, And I just think, like it's a
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: beautiful moment and it's fun and you have your people
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: there and you're dancing and it's like this thing. But
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: it's one day, and I just like, now, I guess
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I just feel differently like, but I did it, So
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I think it's unfair of me to be like, don't
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: do it because I did it.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: You know, I haven't done it yet, and I'm conflicted
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: about having a big wedding. Here's my thing. I just
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not paying for food for that many people.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I'm just that's a lot. It is wildly, wildly And
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: then we want to open bar to you have to.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Have an open bar. I'm not coming to your wedding
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: if you don't have.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: One hundred thousand dollars. I would assume.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you that right now.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I love you, but coming to the wedding, I have
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: to what are we gonna do?
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: What are we gonna do? We're you gonna hang out?
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Oh if it's not open bar, No, I don't have
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: to be open bar.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Has to be open bar.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: But I don't think it's gonna be two hundred fifty people.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: Well, so here's here. Okay, So here's my thing about.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Because I don't want to sound like a hater, because
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I am experienced in this.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: This is the thing about big weddings.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: It sounds like a great idea, right, Like you have
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: all these people and it's like the big flowers and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: the big church and the big reception, but like you
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: don't get to spend any time with anyone like you
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: just you do not it's impossible. You have the day
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: before and like sometimes you can hang out with people
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: a little bit there, or like you'll have like a
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Thursday dinner. And weddings have also become like a four
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: or five day thing, which I know in some cultures
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: is very normal, but not for us. Okay, not for America.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: It's supposed to be a rehearsal dinner with your family
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: and then a wedding, and it's become like this whole
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: you know, festival. But yeah, like, if you really want
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: to be able to spend time with people that you
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: care about, my advice is this, invite people that you know,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you know, we'll have your back in ten years. If
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: they don't make that cut, they don't need to be
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: at your wedding, cause it's like it's the most important
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: day of your life. It's supposed to be about love
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: and you are if you have a massive wedding, you're
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: just inevitably going to have people there that like just
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: don't need to be there. And to your point, you're
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: feeding them and you're giving them drinks and you're paying
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: for like extra space and but do what you want,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean Again, like I am absolutely
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: being a hypocrite. I did that so and I had
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: a great wedding. It was beautiful and had the best time.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: So I mean, I'm like I.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Feel this way now that the that the wedding is over,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: that I would Elope and I can't have a small wedding.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I have too big of a family to have a
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: small wedding, so it's just impossible.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: And like if my partner has a big family, it's cooked.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Like there's just we either have a big wedding or
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: like a like a big ish wedding or Elope.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: And for me, like I just I mean, I just
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: have to ask too many people.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: That's just family, like I can't friends like and then
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: they have their partners. Like that's how it goes and
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: girls and grows.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: When I think about it, it adds up quick when
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: I think about.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: It, It really does. When you sit down there and
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: make the list, it adds up quick. And you want
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: to be able to spend time with these people and
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: you're not going to get to spend time with them,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: and everyone's going to be asking.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: You for a picture and a selfie and.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: You know what it is, I, as an adult, have
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: not been to a wedding. The last wedding I went
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: to I was like thirteen. I to do gasp, I was.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: I was invited to one, but it was it was
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: my girl from high school. But it was like three
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: weeks after I had Aiden. So I was like, I'm sorry, girl,
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: I can't I can't make this.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Wait. You haven't been to a wedding as.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: An adult, No, But I don't know when I know
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: is getting married.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I've been to four weddings since year.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: I need some new friends. No one's no one's married
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: or they just have really long engagements. We got to
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: get you to a wedding, girl, Yeah, because maybe I'll
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: have a different opinion.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, you're gonna need to get to a wedding.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: I need to.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to get to a wedding for sure. Also,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: bachelorette culture is like a whole thing too. Yeah.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: I haven't been to one of them either.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: I've been to a couple bachelorettes. Ben I've been. Yeah,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I've been. I've been to a decent amount of bacherettes.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: I gotta go.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah you have, you have a lot of experiences.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Still to just all of my opinions because no, no, no,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: but like we do have to get we do have
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: to get you to a wedding, though, we do, we
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: definitely have to do that.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, So it's time for never Too Personal. Yes, all right,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: it's time for never too Personal. If you want to
• 28:47
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• 28:49
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• 28:52
  Speaker 1: personal show this one is you mentioned twenty year old
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Joy a lot and all of her crazy.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: What do you think she would think of Joy today?
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I was a wild woman at twenty Actually, I would
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: say from nineteen eighteen ish.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: To twenty five, I was pretty unhinged. I think I
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: hit adulthood and all of the like.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Suppressed trauma for my childhood, all of the having to
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: be buttoned up and not cause my mom anymore headache
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: than she already had on her plate. Not wanting to
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: get in trouble so that I could get to college,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: you know, trying to avoid extra stress at home by
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: talking back, Like all of those things. I think it
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: all just kind of poured out of me daddy issues,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: so to speak, and I really kind of went on
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: a rebellious I'm going to find myself journey. Oh also
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: pour in there all of the church guilt and church
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: trauma as well, which I talk about quite often and
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: piss everybody off with. But you know, I think it
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: when I look back on those years, which i'm really
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: as many stupid fucking things as I did, and as
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: many poor decisions as I've made as I made during
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: that time, I'm really grateful I had that time because
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I do not miss my twenties at all. I'm on
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the cusp of forty and I feel like someone who
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: has really lived life fully in each chapter, except for
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: my childhood because it wasn't available to me. But I
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: feel like I've had every year like I have had
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: so many experiences.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I've been in so many different places.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I've lived in different cities, I've had different relationships, I've
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: had different friendships, I've had different jobs, I've been at
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: different schools like I've I've had so many different experiences
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: in life that I feel like I've had such a
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: full life that even though those times were just beyond
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: my comprehension to even imagine behaving like that anymore. I
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: am grateful for them because they shaped so much of
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: who I am and how I see the world now.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: And I haven't lived perfectly. I've made a lot of
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: really poor decisions. And I don't like to look at
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: the world through a lens of regret. I don't like
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: saying like, oh, I don't regret anything, like everyone regrets
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: things that they do. That's a very silly like no
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: regrets thing. But what I will say is, when it
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: comes to regret, I think you have to repurpose.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: That feeling into.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Lessons and growth and a have it be a part
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: of your story. And I feel like that time was
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: just it was insane. But some of the stories are
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: funny and some of them are tragic.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: But what I think.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: My twenty year old self would think of me today,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I guess there's two ways of looking at it. Like
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: if I saw myself today, what my twenty year old
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: self think, I would be so relieved that I survived
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: and that I accomplished my dreams and that I am,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Independent, and I have this full life.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: There's another way of asking this question of like, what
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: would twenty year old self Joy think of a woman
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: like me, like passing her by? I think I would
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: think nothing of it. I was a completely selfish asshole,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: so like I don't know I was, I would not
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: be paying attention steady of those things. My focus on
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: success was really centered on school, and you know, that
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: was like where I poured my success energy, and the
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: rest of it was, you know, just thinking that I
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: knew everything. And the reason I mentioned twenty four and
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: twenty five as sort of the year where I got
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: out of that is because I find broke down at
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: that time and accepted that I needed to start taking
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: advice and I needed to change I was living and
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I needed to grow up and I needed to be
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: more serious about my future and stop thinking that I
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: knew everything.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: And now I'm really grateful to say that I know.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: A whole lot about a very very very very little
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: amount of things, and I always want to learn more,
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: and that I think is a real grown up shift
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: that happens. So yeah, I'm twenty year old Joy was
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: a nut. The thirty nine year old joys a nut,
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