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Charlie Kirk Mic Detail They Missed | Jay Weidner · Ryder Lee

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Speaker 2: with us about the strangeness around the Charlie Kirk assassination.
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Speaker 2: Jay Widner, welcome back to the show. It's good to
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Speaker 1: Hey, It's good to be here writer. How's it gone.
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Speaker 2: It's going well. We got a lot of craziness going on.
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Speaker 2: And really where I wanted to start this is back
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two with this suspicious death of Mark
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Speaker 2: Leedy in Pennsylvania, where Mark Leady worked as an oriel
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Speaker 2: driller and they would use this very powerful explosive material
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Speaker 2: called pet in, and Candice was the one that discovered this.
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Speaker 2: Now I don't know if she did or if her
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Speaker 2: followers did, but this is where I heard it. I
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Speaker 2: heard it from her, but it makes sense to me anyway.
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Speaker 2: Mark Leedy, this guy ends up dying from an explosion
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Speaker 2: from burning some papers at his house in a barrel.
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Speaker 2: The barrel exposed, the show upnol goes everywhere, and it
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Speaker 2: hits his neck and kills him. His family is really
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Speaker 2: shaken up. They don't really necessarily believe the official story.
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Speaker 2: They believe that there's more to it. But this is
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Speaker 2: where it gets weird because before his death, Mark Leady
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Speaker 2: had taken some pet in explosives from his job. He
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Speaker 2: stole some of the pet in and he had only
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Speaker 2: told one person that he had done this, and that
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Speaker 2: person was his best friend from high school. Then we
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Speaker 2: fast forward to twenty twenty four to the Butler, Pennsylvania
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Speaker 2: assassination attempt on Trump. So a man and his family
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Speaker 2: bought tickets, bought regular tickets to the Trump Butler rally,
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Speaker 2: just general admission tickets, and to their surprise, once they entered,
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Speaker 2: a lady approached them and asked them if they would
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Speaker 2: like front row seats. They were super excited about this.
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Speaker 2: The family gets out escorted to the front row of
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Speaker 2: the Trump rally. I mean, how many times has that
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Speaker 2: really happened? Jay? How many times do you walk into
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Speaker 2: an event that you bought general admission tickets for and
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Speaker 2: then you're asked if you want to be front row?
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Speaker 2: That really only happens in you know, a dream scenario
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Speaker 2: or it happens in the movies, right, you get upgraded
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Speaker 2: to the front row seats at the event. Now, this man,
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Speaker 2: his name was coreytor Yeah, and this was the only
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Speaker 2: person that was shot and killed that day by the
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Speaker 2: would be assassin Thomas Crooks at the Trump rally right,
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Speaker 2: and he was the best friend of Mark Leady that
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Speaker 2: he told his secret to about stealing the pet and
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Speaker 2: explosives from his job.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty damning.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what to think of it, right, because
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Speaker 2: it gets even more crazier because sixty six stay later, right,
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Speaker 2: the Israeli government packed thousands of pagers and walkie talkies
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Speaker 2: with guess what pet and explosives that explos exploded simultaneously
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Speaker 2: across Lebanon and Syria, that injured I believe around fifteen
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Speaker 2: hundred people and killed forty two people and injured around
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Speaker 2: four thousand civilians.
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Speaker 1: Then net Yahoo gave Trump a golden pager think about.
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Speaker 2: It, and he wasn't even president when that happened.
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Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, So that is very strange because you actually
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Speaker 1: found a link in a way between the Trump assassination
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Speaker 1: and the Charlie Kirk assassination. You think about it, and
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Speaker 1: then the factory in Tennessee that makes those things, those
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Speaker 1: pagers that it blew up, you killed like what seven
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Speaker 1: people something like that a few weeks after the Charlie
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Speaker 1: Kirk assassination. Yeah, it's like, you know, and you know,
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Speaker 1: we're really stuck here in the Charlie Kirk, although I'm
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Speaker 1: leaning one way now more, but you know, we have
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Speaker 1: two choices with it. Forget Tyler Robinson, he didn't do anything.
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Speaker 1: But Alex Jones was on Jesse on fire. Jesse on
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Speaker 1: Fire was on Alex Jones, and Alex Jones said to
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Speaker 1: Jesse that just days after Charlie Kirk got it, he's
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Speaker 1: being told by high ups in the military that it
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Speaker 1: was a squib, which is initially what I thought, because
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Speaker 1: the shirt goes up, you know, just like a squib
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Speaker 1: lit although you would normally in a boovie or whatever,
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Speaker 1: you take the shirt down so it doesn't fly all around. Clearly,
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Speaker 1: if it was a squib, it was an amateur working.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know what to do, and I got put
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Speaker 1: on put in wrong, and that's why it didn't work right.
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Speaker 1: And so or it was the Roadmike. It was the
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Speaker 1: explosive pt etn in it and and that was malfunctioned. Also,
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Speaker 1: whoever put that in it could be like Candae so
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Speaker 1: that Charlie was leaned over a little bit. I caused
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Speaker 1: it to go this way out the neck like that.
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Speaker 1: That could be because again I mean in movies, when
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Speaker 1: you use a squib, you do seven or eight takes.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like you're doing one take, so
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Speaker 1: it'll be off and you have to do it again,
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Speaker 1: change your shirt and put the new one on, and
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Speaker 1: try it until you got looking good. So when you're
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Speaker 1: doing like Charlie and you only got one chance. But
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Speaker 1: I don't think that it is faked. And the reason
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's faked is because if it was faked,
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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk would have contacted Candace by now and told
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Speaker 1: him told her to cool it, because she's blown apart
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Speaker 1: the whole organization right.
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Speaker 2: Pretty much ruined the entire thing.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's ruined, and of course all the people on
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Speaker 1: the right are all mad at Candace for doing that,
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Speaker 1: But Canna is just trying to find the truth about
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Speaker 1: her friend. I mean, you can't blame her. Those guys
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Speaker 1: at Tpusair acting so damn weird that, you know, like,
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Speaker 1: who wouldn't look into it the way they act. That's
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Speaker 1: why I thought it was faked, because I'm not looking
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Speaker 1: at these guys going, yeah, these are just a bunch
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Speaker 1: of nerds. I don't think they could kill anybody, and
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Speaker 1: I still, to a large degree think that. But I
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Speaker 1: just I'm leaning more towards the road microphone exploding and
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Speaker 1: fading away, especially the plastic and the glasses on the
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Speaker 1: floor of the car. Where's the blood though in the
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Speaker 1: car we got the pictures of seeing it all. How
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Speaker 1: could it not be any blood at all anywhere?
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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing that people are seeing is because
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Speaker 2: I did a video that there should have been some
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Speaker 2: kind of burn marks on Charlie from the mic exploding.
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Speaker 2: And as I was making that video, i'd woken up
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Speaker 2: that morning, I'd put it all together, and I'd woken
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Speaker 2: up and I worked on the video that entire morning
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Speaker 2: until around two pm, and then I released the video
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Speaker 2: on Instagram and all the social media platforms, and I
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Speaker 2: was like, there should be some kind of burnmarks on
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Speaker 2: Charlie if the exploding microphone theory is correct. And how
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Speaker 2: you would know that is if you had the autopsy photos.
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Speaker 2: If you couldn't get access to the autopsy photos, and
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Speaker 2: the next person that would be able to identify that
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Speaker 2: would be the doctor that was trying to save Charlie's life.
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Speaker 2: And if you remember, we talked about this a lotlast
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Speaker 2: time we did a show on Charlie Kirk. The doctor
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Speaker 2: was being blocked from returning back in to check on
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Speaker 2: Charlie right to clean him up, for Erica Kirk to
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Speaker 2: get there. And the reason that he would be blocked
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Speaker 2: and that didn't really make a lot of sense to me.
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Speaker 2: Why would they want to block the doctor from going
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Speaker 2: in and clean up Charlie. Well, the reason that they
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Speaker 2: would want to block him is because he could go
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Speaker 2: in there and identify that there was something else going
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Speaker 2: on with Charlie that could have led to his death.
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Speaker 2: And after he cleaned him up, then he would have
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Speaker 2: seen some kind of burdmark from an explosion somewhere around
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Speaker 2: his chest. And I was like, you would need to
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Speaker 2: talk to the doctor because he would be able to
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Speaker 2: confirm if he saw anything, or the nurses or anybody
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Speaker 2: that was there that day to saul Charlie's body, they
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Speaker 2: would be able to identify if there's something else going
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Speaker 2: on with his chest. Right. And then little did I
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Speaker 2: know that Baron Coleman had posted a photo that shows
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Speaker 2: some kind of markings on Charlie's chancel, like right underneath
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Speaker 2: his breast from his bright nipple there. Now people were
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Speaker 2: trying to say that that was blood, that that was
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Speaker 2: blood from people that were handling him and moving him,
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Speaker 2: which the way that they moved him to the vehicle
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Speaker 2: was criminal.
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Speaker 1: Criminal. I just watched it today where I got on
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Speaker 1: the show. I watched him carry his body. It was criminal.
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Speaker 1: Nobody's cradling his neck, there's nobody's tending to the wounds.
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Speaker 1: Nobody's doing anything actually except holding him wrong, holding in
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Speaker 1: a fashion that's going to actually exacerbate everything that's going on.
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Speaker 1: What they should have done, I said this before, is
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Speaker 1: they should have taken off their shirts, plugged all the
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Speaker 1: plugged the whole that was on Charlie, and called a
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Speaker 1: damn ambulance. That's what they should have done. But there
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Speaker 1: were e MT people there. They tried to give the
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Speaker 1: guy in the passenger seat of the van and EMP kit.
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Speaker 1: It was like that, yeah, we don't need that. We
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Speaker 1: cut slams the door on him. So you know, they
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Speaker 1: reject the e MT. They do not handle him in
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Speaker 1: any way, shape or form like you should handle somebody.
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Speaker 1: They it's just it's it's it's so weird and suspicious,
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Speaker 1: and you know, for sure all the suspicions is going
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Speaker 1: to fall onto uh, all those people that were supposedly
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Speaker 1: Charlie's friends, I mean, that's what's going to happen here,
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Speaker 1: and that's what is happening, and what else? Choice? What
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Speaker 1: the choice do you have except maybe he faked it.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, squibs do leave marks on your skin,
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Speaker 1: Yes they do. And James Kahn and The Godfather in
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Speaker 1: that famous scene where he's shot like twenty five times
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Speaker 1: on the bridge, that's all one take and he was
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Speaker 1: equipped with twenty five squibs and went off and he
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Speaker 1: had to go to the hospital. He was bruised so
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Speaker 1: badly that they had to do emergency run to the hospital.
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Speaker 1: So squibs do can't hurt you and leave marks on you.
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Speaker 1: But so again it's two different paths down two different roads,
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Speaker 1: with the evidence supporting both.
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Speaker 2: But again, what would you need to destroy the microphone
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Speaker 2: if it was a squib though exactly?
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Speaker 1: And why would you exactly why would you need to
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Speaker 1: destroy the microphone? Well, we don't know if they destroyed
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Speaker 1: the microphone, do we.
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Speaker 2: Well, I personally believe that the microphone is at the
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Speaker 2: bottom of the sug there's not really anything else that
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Speaker 2: can possibly be so exploded or someone that took Charlie
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Speaker 2: in the van destroyed it to cover up some kind
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Speaker 2: of evidence while they were in the van, because the
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Speaker 2: way that that microphone works is that it records the
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Speaker 2: entire time. I have the road I had the exact
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Speaker 2: same setup right here, the road Wireless Pro that I
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Speaker 2: I filmed a clockwork shining with them. We use them
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Speaker 2: whenever I filmed your part for a psychic Agent, the
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Speaker 2: gate program. You used it. I used it. Three other
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Speaker 2: people that were in the movie also used it, so
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Speaker 2: I know how these work. The actual microphone itself stays recording.
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Speaker 2: There's a setting that you can as soon as you
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Speaker 2: take it out of the case. It has this red
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Speaker 2: mark on it that means that it's recording. Now it
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Speaker 2: records directly to this. You don't need the receiver if
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Speaker 2: you're just doing audio. The receiver is a separate part.
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Speaker 2: And now I have the receiver hooked up to my
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Speaker 2: iHome because I'm using the Road Wireless Pro on me.
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Speaker 2: There's absolutely no reason that Charlie would ever need to
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Speaker 2: have the receiver on his body. And you know this,
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Speaker 2: even if it wasn't a microphone, and we'll never put
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Speaker 2: the receiver on his body along with the microphone. The
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Speaker 2: receiver is going to be hooked up to a camera or.
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Speaker 1: Computer exactly, and they put the microphone under the shirt,
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Speaker 1: which you would never do period. No one would ever
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Speaker 1: do that. Nobody in the world. Maybe a twelve year
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Speaker 1: old that doesn't know anything, but put the microphone under
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Speaker 1: the shirt because it's gonna rup all the audio is
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Speaker 1: going to have to be either thrown away or fixed.
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Speaker 1: Very difficult to fix that too, by the way, And
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Speaker 1: so that doesn't make any sense. So the only reason
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Speaker 1: you'd want to put the microphone under the shirt is
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Speaker 1: because it's an explosive. You're trying to hide it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only thing that makes sense. And if
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Speaker 2: you were, if you were using this, because there are
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Speaker 2: the ones that you know, you hook a microphone into
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Speaker 2: the actual top of the like the one that I'm
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Speaker 2: using right now. It's hidden because I'm using the cable
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Speaker 2: that has a little bush capacity and not capacitor, but
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Speaker 2: the spongy thing on the end of it that protects
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Speaker 2: you from all the noise of it under your.
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Speaker 1: Shirt, the sponge protector.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm using that, so it's hidden. But if
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Speaker 2: I was just using just the straight microphone, I would
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Speaker 2: never put it on the inside of my shirt. I
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Speaker 2: would just clip it to the outside. That's how everybody
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Speaker 2: wears these that uses just the road mic without the
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Speaker 2: attachment or without the cable. They put it on the
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Speaker 2: outside of their shirt.
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Speaker 1: It's amazing that almost nobody who has talked about this
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Speaker 1: that it's such an unprofessional mistake to make that you
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Speaker 1: would have to conclude that the person who put that
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Speaker 1: microphone on knew exactly what they were doing.
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Speaker 2: Well, there's another thing that people.
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Speaker 1: Was Fonsworth, the guy that put the microphone on him,
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Speaker 1: the guy that retrieved the SD card.
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Speaker 2: That I'm not too sure. I haven't know, Canda says,
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Speaker 2: talked about it, and she's named him a couple of times,
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Speaker 2: but it's call for me.
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Speaker 1: It might be worth looking at the footage before he
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Speaker 1: starts talking and see who the guy is that put
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Speaker 1: that mic on him, because that guy no, you know what.
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Speaker 1: There's another thing though. It could be I know this
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Speaker 1: sounds really crazy, but it could be that they switched
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Speaker 1: somebody on the inside switched the original road with the
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Speaker 1: one with the explosives, and nobody knew it but him.
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Speaker 1: It could be it could be like an agent for
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Speaker 1: another kind of tree right, trying to get Charlie off
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Speaker 1: and the rest of them can't figure out what's going on.
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Speaker 1: That actually is a very high possibility. And you know,
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Speaker 1: and like Tyler Robinson, what was he doing there? Who
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Speaker 1: invited him there? You know, he'd never been there before.
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Speaker 1: It's all very strange, you know, in going to a
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Speaker 1: place you've never been, roaming around with a high powered
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Speaker 1: rifle and on a campus with kids at it, people attending,
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Speaker 1: and then he throws the he somehow makes the gun
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Speaker 1: back together and throws it in the chicken coop when
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Speaker 1: the bomb dogs come by, and they don't smell it
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Speaker 1: even it just got fire, supposedly, and you know, yeah, so.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of inconsistencies, and there's a lot of
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Speaker 2: problems with the entire thing, I mean, from the destroying
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Speaker 2: of evidence, from the keeping of evidence to the paving
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Speaker 2: over of the crime scene, to the immediate cleaning and
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Speaker 2: selling of the SUV vehicle that should have remained in evidence,
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Speaker 2: to the destroying of Charlie Kirk's shirt that.
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Speaker 1: Would indicate the MIC is the explosive mic is the
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Speaker 1: answer says you would want you to because you would
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Speaker 1: have bomb residue on the ground, you'd have to clean
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Speaker 1: it all up, which they did, and paving it over,
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Speaker 1: make sure that no one you didn't miss anything, and
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Speaker 1: then cleaning up the van where there's gonna be bomb
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Speaker 1: residue in the van, and the T shirt which is gone,
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Speaker 1: and the necklace, and the concern for the necklace. Why
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Speaker 1: are they so concerned about that necklace because that had
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Speaker 1: bomb residue on it. They wanted to make sure they
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Speaker 1: got it. And like Candace showed several witnesses and said
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Speaker 1: they saw the assassination and Charlie got hit here. Oh,
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Speaker 1: we got hit right in the chest right, which is
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Speaker 1: really where you want to shoot somebody if you're doing assassination,
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Speaker 1: because the head's too small and dicey Sturnam is much
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Speaker 1: bigger and fatter and easier to hit. But and I
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Speaker 1: think that was where it was. The road mike was
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Speaker 1: supposed to do it, but somehow it got shifted or something,
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Speaker 1: and when it went off, it went off in the
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Speaker 1: wrong direction. And it's very likely nobody there even knew
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Speaker 1: that that road mike had explosives in it. And they're
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Speaker 1: just in a panic state ever since because the don't
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Speaker 1: understand what happened.
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up the necklace because I have
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Speaker 2: an entire theory about that that I'm going to get
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Speaker 2: into hearing just a little bit, but I do want
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Speaker 2: to play a montage of a lot of the first
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Speaker 2: hand eyewitnesses that were there, that gave reports to news
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Speaker 2: agencies at that time. And it's so odd because they
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Speaker 2: they seemed like so happy and cheerful. Yeah, they're like
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Speaker 2: smiling and like kind of like laughing. I'm like, this
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Speaker 2: is a very traumatic thing to have witness, no matter
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Speaker 2: if you hated the person or hated the individual, Like,
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Speaker 2: witnessing something like that firsthand is going to be very
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Speaker 2: damaging no matter who it is. So it's very suspicious
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Speaker 2: that these people are so happy, They're acting so happy
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Speaker 2: and smiling and like kind of like laughing and snickering.
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Speaker 2: Here where, let's watch this video. It's about a minute long,
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Speaker 2: pretty terrifying. Pably is scarius thing I've ever been a
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Speaker 2: part of.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, good question.
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Speaker 3: I'm definitely going to be seeing my counselor. I will
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Speaker 3: have a lot of therapy on.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, you know, this is crazy, I said.
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Speaker 1: I actually mentioned, like what if something really like crazy happened? Right,
22:48
Speaker 1: not what if he got shot? I said, that's crazy.
22:53
Speaker 2: That's crazy right there, This guy is saying, in the
22:57
Speaker 2: middle of this this event, what if Charlie got shot
23:01
Speaker 2: right now? Like, why would you think that?
23:06
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there's the problem of the last question
23:10
Speaker 1: that Charlie answered was about transgender violence. That's quite the
23:14
Speaker 1: coincidence since his shooter was designated as a transit not
23:19
Speaker 1: trans but a trans lover. So I don't know, it
23:24
Speaker 1: looks like, yeah, I don't know, man. So I mean
23:32
Speaker 1: with the FBI would have to be involved, right.
23:37
Speaker 2: Absolutely, they would would. I had to have been an entire
23:40
Speaker 2: plant thing. And these people seem like that they're what
23:43
Speaker 2: do those people called them insert themselves into an event actor.
23:49
Speaker 2: There's a different name for it, not honey pots, but
23:54
Speaker 2: crisis actors. Crisis actors.
23:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they're not very good actors, that's for sure. Yeah,
24:00
Speaker 1: it is strange the guy would be laughing like that,
24:04
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know.
24:06
Speaker 2: Here we goes finishing this real quick, yea, And.
24:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, well now a few hours later, how are you
24:14
Speaker 1: dealing with what you saw?
24:15
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean it was a pretty traumatic experience.
24:17
Speaker 1: But we've had friends around all day, which has really
24:19
Speaker 1: been helpful.
24:19
Speaker 3: But we're definitely getting flashbacks every once in a while
24:22
Speaker 3: from it, but we're just trying to deal with cope
24:23
Speaker 3: with it. Well, a sudden just tons of blood gushing
24:26
Speaker 3: right out where his heart is and then he like
24:28
Speaker 3: fell over and slumped down, and everybody got down and
24:31
Speaker 3: was screaming, and then we all ran out straight and
24:34
Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk and that was it. And I think they
24:36
Speaker 3: got him.
24:38
Speaker 2: And did you see the person who fired the shot
24:40
Speaker 2: or anything like that.
24:41
Speaker 3: No, I just knew that it came to the right
24:43
Speaker 3: of me and went just directly into his.
24:46
Speaker 2: Heart, directly into his heart.
24:51
Speaker 1: That's clearly that was part of the deal. It was
24:54
Speaker 1: supposed to come up off right here and it didn't.
24:58
Speaker 1: And and that person is a crisis actor, and they
25:02
Speaker 1: had their lines and they read their lines not realizing
25:05
Speaker 1: that they were wrong. I think she corrects herself later,
25:07
Speaker 1: by the way, like the next day she says, Oh,
25:10
Speaker 1: came out the next same girl, so you know, she
25:13
Speaker 1: got talked to her where she saw what she was
25:15
Speaker 1: doing wrong and fixed it. Yeah, there's there's the guy
25:19
Speaker 1: what's his name that said that he did it right.
25:23
Speaker 1: The older guy, how was he doing? And he threw
25:27
Speaker 1: all the cops off from chasing anybody, and so that
25:30
Speaker 1: has to be done on purpose. So yeah, to eliminate
25:35
Speaker 1: the the Tyler, Robinson and the squib theory, then there's
25:41
Speaker 1: only one theory left, and that has to be that
25:44
Speaker 1: this thing was planned way ahead of time as a
25:46
Speaker 1: precise military operation. Absolutely actors, crisis actors, people designed to
25:57
Speaker 1: push put you off the path of chasing things. Yeah.
26:02
Speaker 1: The only people that seem like they're honest in this
26:04
Speaker 1: whole thing are the local police. They actually look like
26:07
Speaker 1: they were trying to solve a crime. But then the
26:10
Speaker 1: FBI gets involved in Yeah, it's pretty damning. And I
26:18
Speaker 1: you ever see Trump at the press conference when he's
26:21
Speaker 1: asked about Charlie Kirk, he just ignored it question.
26:25
Speaker 2: No, I didn't see that.
26:26
Speaker 1: I completely ignores it, didn't say anything. There's like a
26:30
Speaker 1: couple of days after this assassination, very strange behavior by Trump.
26:36
Speaker 2: Well, I wanted to bring this up because no one's
26:39
Speaker 2: really talking about this. I think it's kind of kind
26:42
Speaker 2: of flew under the radar because there was so much
26:44
Speaker 2: stuff going on at the time, and looking back, I
26:47
Speaker 2: believe that this is very suspicious. Which is from the
26:54
Speaker 2: day of the assassination, when that assassination happened to Charlie
26:59
Speaker 2: kirk to Wing. Erica posted that video of her by
27:05
Speaker 2: the casket along with photos of Charlie, you know, in
27:09
Speaker 2: the casket, which everyone was kind of, you know, up
27:12
Speaker 2: in arms about, like why would you post that video?
27:14
Speaker 2: That's a really intimate time that you're supposed to have
27:18
Speaker 2: with your deceased husband. But no one talked about how
27:24
Speaker 2: short of amount of time that was from his assassination
27:29
Speaker 2: to her posting that video in that photo. Do you
27:35
Speaker 2: know how short of amount of time that was? That
27:39
Speaker 2: was two days. The assassination took place on a Wednesday
27:47
Speaker 2: on the tenth, and that video in photos of Erica
27:52
Speaker 2: next to Charlie was posted on September eleventh. I know
27:58
Speaker 2: about you, Jay, but that's suspiciously fast, Okay, With that
28:03
Speaker 2: amount of time, you were asking the public to believe
28:07
Speaker 2: that there was enough time for a thorough autopsy, cleaning
28:12
Speaker 2: of the body, embalming, and then preparation of the body
28:18
Speaker 2: for a casket reveal in just two days.
28:23
Speaker 1: That's pretty hard to believe. The thing about that video
28:27
Speaker 1: also that flips me out is how small Charlie's hands are.
28:31
Speaker 1: He was six foot five and his hands are like
28:35
Speaker 1: those like a five foot ten man's hands really small,
28:40
Speaker 1: I mean like unnaturally small. So Eric, his hands are
28:44
Speaker 1: bigger than his hands in that casket thing. And I
28:48
Speaker 1: can't understand that. I can't, I can't can't understand it,
28:51
Speaker 1: and I don't know why she even posted it. It
28:54
Speaker 1: was really strange. And you know that it's likely he
29:00
Speaker 1: hasn't even been buried yet.
29:03
Speaker 2: No one knows where he's buried.
29:05
Speaker 1: My Leianopolis said two months after it that he hadn't
29:08
Speaker 1: been buried yet. Why wouldn't you bury somebody who had
29:11
Speaker 1: been dead for two months? So that's very strange. And
29:16
Speaker 1: probably you don't want to tell anybody where he's buried
29:18
Speaker 1: because of all the crazy people go there and pee
29:21
Speaker 1: on his grave and all that. So I understand that far,
29:24
Speaker 1: but still it is strange.
29:28
Speaker 2: It's very strange for the most high profile political assassination
29:34
Speaker 2: since jfk Ye that two days after he has been assassinated,
29:43
Speaker 2: he's already ready and prepared in a tasket, and Eric
29:49
Speaker 2: is posting photos and videos.
29:52
Speaker 1: See sometimes you bring up evidence and it looks like
29:55
Speaker 1: he did fake it. You know that would be you know,
30:00
Speaker 1: that would be what you would do if you were
30:01
Speaker 1: faking it. You get something out right away as fast
30:04
Speaker 1: as you could to make everybody think he's dead. But
30:10
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like I said, if he was still alive,
30:12
Speaker 1: he would have called Candace or had an intermediary sent
30:16
Speaker 1: her a mess. He's telling her to cool it, and
30:19
Speaker 1: she would have done it because he was her friend.
30:21
Speaker 1: Now she would have known exactly why he faked it
30:24
Speaker 1: because of you know who our greatest ally, you know,
30:29
Speaker 1: and so to get away from them. But they also
30:33
Speaker 1: could be the ones and some other ones that are
30:34
Speaker 1: famous for creating explosive little devices.
30:38
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know.
30:40
Speaker 1: They very likely they're the ones who provided the road microphone,
30:45
Speaker 1: or at least help provide it. So I don't know.
30:53
Speaker 2: I think they see there's some things that make sense
30:56
Speaker 2: with that theory, and then there's some other things that
30:59
Speaker 2: mixed with the with the other theory. And you know,
31:04
Speaker 2: if if it was fake, then there's a lot of unknowns.
31:08
Speaker 2: There's a there's too many questions that come up that
31:12
Speaker 2: don't make any sense if it's fake. But if it
31:15
Speaker 2: was some kind of they.
31:17
Speaker 1: Wouldn't have ever had to clean the van or get
31:19
Speaker 1: rid of it. They wouldn't have had to they would
31:22
Speaker 1: have had to get rid of the shirt because it'd
31:24
Speaker 1: be fake blood. But uh yeah, there are some things
31:30
Speaker 1: that don't make sense. The biggest thing ab all in
31:35
Speaker 1: regard to Charlie faking it is there's no blood when
31:39
Speaker 1: they're carrying him. There's no blood dropping from them. The
31:42
Speaker 1: people handling him have hardly any blood on their hands
31:45
Speaker 1: or feet or shoes, and there's no blood in the van.
31:49
Speaker 1: So that so you see, there's like this incredible disychotomy
31:53
Speaker 1: going on here and probably never solve it.
32:00
Speaker 2: It is strange. But then it's like, well, why is
32:03
Speaker 2: the why is the microphone at the exploded at the
32:07
Speaker 2: bottom of the back of the suv? You know what
32:11
Speaker 2: I mean? Like it doesn't some things answer some things
32:16
Speaker 2: with one of the theories, and then I think that
32:20
Speaker 2: some kind of explosion makes the most sense that happened
32:26
Speaker 2: to it.
32:27
Speaker 1: But I can think of a reason why you would
32:30
Speaker 1: want to get rid of that microphone and break it
32:32
Speaker 1: up if it was a squib, because there'd be fake
32:35
Speaker 1: blood all over it. Corns are up blood, right, and
32:39
Speaker 1: so you know you might just thrown it down on
32:41
Speaker 1: the ground and smash it so that you know nobody
32:44
Speaker 1: will ever be able to find it again, but yeah,
32:49
Speaker 1: it does look like it exploded. I'm sixty percent in
32:53
Speaker 1: favor of exploding microphone, forty percent in favor of the squib,
32:57
Speaker 1: and zero percent favor that Tyler robin Uson had anything
33:01
Speaker 1: to do with being violent that day.
33:06
Speaker 2: And definitely zero percent on that one as well.
33:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, poor guy and Charlie did fake it and he's
33:13
Speaker 1: railroading Tyler Robinson and Charlie, you're ashmark. So you know,
33:19
Speaker 1: if you if you're railroading an innocent guy and you
33:22
Speaker 1: can stop it, then I don't know what kind of
33:25
Speaker 1: person you are. So again that favors that the exploding
33:28
Speaker 1: microphone theory, because I don't think Charlie's a guy that
33:32
Speaker 1: would let somebody, you know, take a hit like that.
33:35
Speaker 1: And he said, man, he just doesn't seem that kind
33:37
Speaker 1: of guy, So you know, I don't know. Definitely, the
33:41
Speaker 1: FBI is involved in this, and definitely JD. Vance is
33:46
Speaker 1: involved in this, and Erica knows what's going on, and
33:52
Speaker 1: she's definitely lying. She has been caught lying several times.
33:56
Speaker 1: Why lie if Charlie was still alive, I lie, right,
34:02
Speaker 1: But if you were involved in his death, then you
34:05
Speaker 1: would lie.
34:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, then when you think about the Butler Pennsylvania thing
34:14
Speaker 2: as well, and that investigation basically being shut down with
34:18
Speaker 2: Parker Carlson basically said that Trump was the one responsible
34:22
Speaker 2: for shutting down that investigation.
34:24
Speaker 1: Yep, that's what Joe Kent said. Yep. And yeah, so
34:31
Speaker 1: what is all all about? I mean, did Trump even
34:34
Speaker 1: get shot that day? You know, they got the Secret
34:39
Speaker 1: Service person moving the photographers in right at the right moment.
34:43
Speaker 1: Why would you be moving photographers into position to take
34:47
Speaker 1: a photo if you thought there was a shooter behind you,
34:51
Speaker 1: still active in shooting, you wouldn't You wouldn't think that.
34:57
Speaker 2: The Secret Service had already taken him out by that time.
35:00
Speaker 2: I think that they took him out as soon as
35:01
Speaker 2: the shot hit.
35:04
Speaker 1: Trumps off before the sniper hit him, So it was
35:12
Speaker 1: like about eight seconds or so he had to shoot
35:16
Speaker 1: eight shots. Why he was allowed to shoot eight shots,
35:19
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Since the sniper was clearly already
35:22
Speaker 1: on him, they could have stopped him at any point.
35:25
Speaker 1: That's another part of this. It doesn't make any sense.
35:29
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's pretty weird that that guy got asked
35:33
Speaker 1: to sit right behind Trump. And hmm, there's so many
35:40
Speaker 1: things about Butler. That don't make sense. The two guys
35:43
Speaker 1: that were supposed to be watching the roof where Crooks
35:45
Speaker 1: was at they both split from their position so they
35:49
Speaker 1: didn't see him. There's two snipers clearly saw him this
35:53
Speaker 1: film with them before he shot. They're looking at him
35:56
Speaker 1: through their scopes, but they didn't do anything. And other
36:02
Speaker 1: people say they heard shots coming from the water tower.
36:06
Speaker 1: The people in the audience. Crooks trained at the same
36:11
Speaker 1: facility as the FBI and the Secret Service train at
36:16
Speaker 1: for firearms, I mean, and they washed the roof off
36:21
Speaker 1: the next day. The FBI did wow. And there's another
36:28
Speaker 1: thing about that whole thing that I've looked into that
36:31
Speaker 1: I haven't really talked much about. But in Butler, there
36:35
Speaker 1: was a pro Ukrainian advocate, a person that was pro
36:40
Speaker 1: Ukrainian in the Ukraine War, about twenty two years old,
36:44
Speaker 1: really adamant about his support for Ukraine, very radical, radical leftists,
36:50
Speaker 1: and he had Facebook and ex account and all this,
36:56
Speaker 1: and they all went silent. On that day. I went
36:59
Speaker 1: on the Butler They've never gone back, and he was
37:03
Speaker 1: threatening Trump because Trump was going to get out of
37:06
Speaker 1: the Ukraine War. He was on social media threatening Trump.
37:10
Speaker 1: I've read the threats. He should have been visited by
37:13
Speaker 1: the Secret Service, but it doesn't look like he was,
37:16
Speaker 1: and he disappeared completely the same day that Trump got shot.
37:22
Speaker 1: And let's not forget the second assassination attempt on Trump
37:26
Speaker 1: and the golf course was also a Ukrainian activist, a
37:29
Speaker 1: person who wanted to kill Trump for his position on
37:32
Speaker 1: the Ukraine War. So you can see that there's just
37:37
Speaker 1: a lot going on there, and it's just like it's
37:39
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways similar to the Charlie Kirk assassination.
37:44
Speaker 1: You can't figure out if it's fake or real. A
37:46
Speaker 1: guy dies, so that immediately makes you think that it's real,
37:50
Speaker 1: But then you find out that the guy's probably a
37:53
Speaker 1: witness to some pretty horrendous crime in the past and
37:57
Speaker 1: maybe knows a lot of stuff that he shouldn't know,
38:01
Speaker 1: and then you know, you conveniently get rid of him,
38:04
Speaker 1: and the rest of it's all fake. It could be.
38:08
Speaker 1: It really could be, And Alex Jones and Jesse on
38:13
Speaker 1: Fire certainly think that, and they're not alone. There's a
38:15
Speaker 1: bunch of military guys on the Internet that are wondering
38:18
Speaker 1: what's really going on there. So I don't know.
38:23
Speaker 2: I think that it's more likely that it may have
38:28
Speaker 2: been a set up to kill this guy that was
38:33
Speaker 2: a witness to the guy that said that he was
38:36
Speaker 2: stealing all this explosive material, and it was set up
38:40
Speaker 2: to kill him, But it was also a set up
38:43
Speaker 2: to kill Trump. And they didn't kill Trump. They missed Trump,
38:47
Speaker 2: but they got him, and Trump wasn't supposed to survive,
38:51
Speaker 2: so then that became like a threat to him. And
38:57
Speaker 2: then since he survived, it's kind of like, hm, it's
39:03
Speaker 2: eyes White shot all over again. Right when when Tom
39:06
Speaker 2: Cruise enters into the Secret Society and then the hooker
39:10
Speaker 2: girl that he saved her life earlier in the movie
39:14
Speaker 2: from Odin up in Ziegler's apartment, right then sacrifices herself
39:21
Speaker 2: for Tom Cruise so that he can get out of
39:23
Speaker 2: the cult. Right, That's kind of like what And that
39:26
Speaker 2: person that sacrificed himself for Trump was Charlie Kirk. I
39:30
Speaker 2: know that sounds crazy, It sounds like a wild, made
39:34
Speaker 2: up thing, but it makes sense to me, like somebody
39:37
Speaker 2: has to die and Trump survived, and so therefore they
39:41
Speaker 2: switched it over to Charlie Kirk and someone had to
39:45
Speaker 2: get asked, and that person to get acted. Was Charlie Kirk.
39:50
Speaker 2: It was a ritual. It was a ritual sacrifice.
39:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna argue with you because it certainly
39:58
Speaker 1: looks like that, and and that would mean that the
40:02
Speaker 1: TPUSA is all in on it. And they got what
40:07
Speaker 1: how much money did they get like seven million dollars
40:10
Speaker 1: in donations right after Charlie died? I think it was
40:12
Speaker 1: worn't that Actually it was more like twenty million. So
40:15
Speaker 1: they had their sacrifice and they got their giant payoff.
40:21
Speaker 2: So it's like a double cross on Trump. Like Trump
40:24
Speaker 2: was supposed to die, they were supposed but he didn't
40:25
Speaker 2: know that, right He might have been involved and knew
40:30
Speaker 2: that something was going to happen and that somebody was
40:32
Speaker 2: going to you know, that's why they gave him the
40:35
Speaker 2: pager because that guy that died at Butler was connected
40:38
Speaker 2: to the guy that they got the explosives for for
40:41
Speaker 2: the Lebanon pagers, and they Trump was a part of
40:45
Speaker 2: this deal to get rid of him because he was
40:47
Speaker 2: a he knew more than what he was supposed to know,
40:51
Speaker 2: and little did he know that he was also great.
40:54
Speaker 2: It was like a double crossing thing. They were going
40:56
Speaker 2: to take out Trump and take out this guy, right.
41:00
Speaker 1: That makes total sense actually, and then and then that's
41:07
Speaker 1: did Trump pretty much, you know, change his positions on
41:11
Speaker 1: a lot of big subjects after that, after the shooting,
41:15
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, he wasn't for the
41:17
Speaker 1: Epstein file release, well before, he was, all of a
41:20
Speaker 1: sudden he wasn't didn't want to get involved in wars,
41:24
Speaker 1: but he allowed himself to get involved, really in two
41:27
Speaker 1: Iran wars, the Twelve Day War and the one that's
41:30
Speaker 1: going on right now. And he can't get out. He
41:33
Speaker 1: can't get out because if he tries to get out,
41:36
Speaker 1: Israel just start shooting at everybody again. They'll all start
41:40
Speaker 1: up again. So there's no way to get out of it.
41:42
Speaker 1: He knows there's no way to get out of it.
41:45
Speaker 1: You know, He's doing all sorts of desperate measures and
41:49
Speaker 1: none of them are working. Iran's laughing their ass off
41:52
Speaker 1: at us, and there's nothing we can do. And we
41:56
Speaker 1: got involved in all of this because our greatest ally,
42:00
Speaker 1: you know, forced our hands in it, and because they're
42:04
Speaker 1: actually not our greatest valet, there are our greatest enemy.
42:07
Speaker 1: And uh. And then Charlie was adamantly against the Iran war,
42:13
Speaker 1: argued successfully for it. Had Tucker argue with Trump about it.
42:20
Speaker 1: He argued with Trump about it. That kept us out
42:23
Speaker 1: of it. Uh. And then as soon as Charlie dies,
42:28
Speaker 1: now we're in a full scale war, which he would
42:30
Speaker 1: have been the largest opponent too, of everyone on earth.
42:35
Speaker 1: He would have been the large law, the loudest person
42:39
Speaker 1: speaking against it, cause it would have caused a big,
42:42
Speaker 1: huge drift between his wing of the party and Trump.
42:45
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think you might be right.
42:52
Speaker 2: So Charlie was the one that convinced him just to
42:54
Speaker 2: do that bombing of the nuclear facilities and Iran to
42:58
Speaker 2: begin with, and not turn it into the big, huge
43:01
Speaker 2: thing than after he was dead. It's like the Long War.
43:04
Speaker 1: Well, I ran every day because more and more obvious
43:08
Speaker 1: why he got killed, because he would have been the
43:10
Speaker 1: biggest opponent to this thing. But speaking out, I mean,
43:13
Speaker 1: I'm a big opponent, but I'm nobody, you know, but Shirely,
43:17
Speaker 1: he would have been on Fox everywhere and it would
43:20
Speaker 1: have been spectacular. Actually, I wish I could have seen it.
43:24
Speaker 1: They took that away from us, but we probably wouldn't
43:28
Speaker 1: have gotten in the Iran war Charlie had he got died,
43:32
Speaker 1: because he yeah, you know, and then look at TPUSA,
43:40
Speaker 1: it's completely destroyed. They have no they have a mission,
43:43
Speaker 1: but they can't do their mission. Why because their mission
43:45
Speaker 1: is to go out and talk to college students. If
43:48
Speaker 1: they go out and talk to college students, they're going
43:49
Speaker 1: to have to answer up a lot of questions that
43:51
Speaker 1: they refuse to answer about all of the Charlie kirk assassination.
43:56
Speaker 1: So they are essentially done. There's nothing they can do that.
44:01
Speaker 1: The whole mission is you go out and talk to
44:02
Speaker 1: people and try to create a you know, alliance between
44:08
Speaker 1: different groups, and they can't open themselves up to questions,
44:13
Speaker 1: so it's not going to happen. So it's over. There's
44:17
Speaker 1: like no point even giving any money to There's nothing
44:21
Speaker 1: they can do. I mean the fun elections, I guess
44:24
Speaker 1: with all that money, But other than that, I don't
44:27
Speaker 1: see what the whole point of it is, and they
44:31
Speaker 1: don't see the whole point. The radio show that Charlie Kirkshaw,
44:35
Speaker 1: I don't know why they keep naming it that. That's
44:37
Speaker 1: kind of weird. But the radio show isn't like any
44:40
Speaker 1: kind of spectacular cutting edge radio show either. Your show
44:44
Speaker 1: is more cutting edge. So I don't know what they're doing,
44:47
Speaker 1: and all they're going to do is agree with the
44:50
Speaker 1: official line that Tyler Robinson did it and not even
44:54
Speaker 1: have hours of curiosity about all the weirdness going on.
44:59
Speaker 1: Then I can only conclud that they're involved.
45:02
Speaker 2: I don't know what evidence they actually have that Tyler
45:06
Speaker 2: Robinson really did this. All of the evidence has been destroyed, Jay,
45:12
Speaker 2: all of it's been destroyed or is missing anything they
45:15
Speaker 2: can then to link Tyler Robinson they're actually doing this
45:20
Speaker 2: is gone?
45:21
Speaker 1: Do they do gun a gunpowder residue test on the guy?
45:26
Speaker 2: No? What?
45:29
Speaker 1: Oh, you probably took a shower or something and in
45:33
Speaker 1: the in between. But again, I have never seen any
45:37
Speaker 1: evidence and they seem like they're holding it from Tyler
45:40
Speaker 1: Robinson's attorneys what evidence they have so they want to
45:43
Speaker 1: arena'ty been showing it? And you know, outside of the
45:47
Speaker 1: ridiculous confession to his free lover over the text, which
45:52
Speaker 1: nobody would ever do. You just shot somebody and you're
45:55
Speaker 1: telling you everything on text about what you did. Nobody
45:59
Speaker 1: would do that, nobody. And I think that's all they
46:04
Speaker 1: got is the texting and just go to groc and
46:07
Speaker 1: ask if somebody can fake a text message on your
46:11
Speaker 1: phone and they'll tell you exactly how to do it.
46:15
Speaker 1: So you know, it's if that's all they got, they've
46:19
Speaker 1: got nothing. If they railroad that guy, that's a real tragedy.
46:26
Speaker 2: That's the first thing that they did with Oswald and
46:29
Speaker 2: the JFK assassination is they gave him a what is
46:32
Speaker 2: that called a paraffin yet yep.
46:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, we put a little bits of candle wax on
46:41
Speaker 1: you and they strip it off and they look at
46:42
Speaker 1: the microscope to see if there's any gunpowder residue on it.
46:47
Speaker 1: And they should have done that. They have a much
46:50
Speaker 1: more sophisticated test nowt it. That should have been the
46:52
Speaker 1: first thing because even if you take a shower, it's
46:55
Speaker 1: still like in your hair, and you know what I mean.
46:58
Speaker 1: So we shoot a gun like that, you're gonna get
47:02
Speaker 1: it in your hair. You know, there's no doubt about it.
47:05
Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's a It will never be solved,
47:12
Speaker 1: and we can bet cash Hotel is not gonna help
47:14
Speaker 1: at all. Anyway. He's already quit and so that the
47:18
Speaker 1: Utah law enforcement officers are in charge of this case.
47:21
Speaker 1: We're out of here, so they're already out of the case.
47:25
Speaker 1: You know, anything to do with it. He's giving it
47:27
Speaker 1: back to the law enforcement. And in Utah, who would
47:30
Speaker 1: probably you know, a bunch of corrupt Mormons, right, And
47:34
Speaker 1: let's not forget the number one religion that the CIA
47:37
Speaker 1: recruits from is the Mormon religion. Yeah, after the FBI
47:45
Speaker 1: goes in and screws everything up, destroys the evidence, doesn't
47:48
Speaker 1: put evidence into cassody, then they give it back to
47:52
Speaker 1: the police.
47:53
Speaker 2: Here you go, screw all this up. Here, you can
47:55
Speaker 2: have this shut show.
47:56
Speaker 1: And of course we can figure out anything on the
47:59
Speaker 1: Utah lawnforcement side anymore. And they screwed it all up.
48:02
Speaker 1: And they're probably perfectly meaningful people be If you're get
48:06
Speaker 1: in bad evidence, it's not going to work. So that's how. Yeah,
48:12
Speaker 1: I'd believe that there is a serious connection between Butler
48:17
Speaker 1: and the Charlie Kirk assassination. I don't know what it is.
48:20
Speaker 1: I think you found part of it with the fact
48:23
Speaker 1: that that guy knew the other guy, and with the
48:26
Speaker 1: explosives and the destruction of the explosive factory in Tennessee
48:33
Speaker 1: also leads me to believe that there's some kind of
48:35
Speaker 1: massive cover up. And the other thing I can't figure
48:41
Speaker 1: out is why the video of Tyler Robinson coming into
48:48
Speaker 1: the police station is missing. I don't understand that part.
48:52
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Why would they not want that
48:56
Speaker 1: to be seen? And can't figure it out. But it
49:01
Speaker 1: would indicate that the Utah that Sheriff's Department is part
49:06
Speaker 1: of it. Something shady as hell.
49:12
Speaker 2: It's kind of like with the moon landing. It's kind
49:14
Speaker 2: of like with you know a lot of other things.
49:17
Speaker 2: The footage just goes missing. We don't know where it is.
49:19
Speaker 2: It was destroyed, you know what I mean. Like it's
49:22
Speaker 2: it's just a coincidence that the exact thing that we
49:27
Speaker 2: need to prove something is now missing or has been destroyed.
49:30
Speaker 1: Yep, I agree. And all the moon landing video is gone.
49:36
Speaker 1: All it's telematory data that the NASA guy has gone.
49:40
Speaker 1: Why would they do that because it's not real and
49:44
Speaker 1: somebody in the future will look at it and say
49:46
Speaker 1: this is real. You're trying to say here, boy, By
49:51
Speaker 1: the way, I'm going to be probably in a new
49:55
Speaker 1: TV show that it's going to do a trial of
50:00
Speaker 1: moon landings. It's gonna be a trial. The guy that
50:03
Speaker 1: is directing it, he did the O. J. Simpson trial.
50:06
Speaker 1: He's a guy that ran out all the cameras and
50:09
Speaker 1: everything and is financed by some wealthy guy in Chicago.
50:14
Speaker 1: And the first episode is gonna be did the moon
50:18
Speaker 1: landings really happen? And I'm gonna be on the side
50:21
Speaker 1: of course that they didn't happen, and then there's gonna
50:24
Speaker 1: be two other experts on the other side that says
50:26
Speaker 1: it does happen. It's going to go before a jury.
50:29
Speaker 1: They're going to show the jury deliberating, and then the
50:32
Speaker 1: judge is going to make a ruling. It's a real judge.
50:37
Speaker 2: Oh, that's going to be super interesting. I'm excited for that.
50:40
Speaker 2: That's going to be really awesome because, like we were
50:43
Speaker 2: mentioned mentioning before, I was like, you know, I don't
50:45
Speaker 2: know who they're going to get to argue on before
50:49
Speaker 2: the four the four that we went, because I mean,
50:52
Speaker 2: if you look into the evidence of the alternative theories,
50:57
Speaker 2: then can't walk away still believing that we went.
51:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be an interesting thing because both sides
51:07
Speaker 1: are gonna get equal time. I don't think that's ever
51:09
Speaker 1: happened before. When is that supposed to be shooting in August?
51:18
Speaker 2: Perfect?
51:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it probably be out this fall. I think
51:21
Speaker 1: they said Netflix is interested. We're gonna do everything, do
51:26
Speaker 1: global warming, They're gonna do climate change, They're gonna do
51:30
Speaker 1: all these subjects and have experts on both sides. So
51:34
Speaker 1: I think it's time for a show like that because
51:36
Speaker 1: we're all kind of talking past each other right now, right,
51:40
Speaker 1: and to have a show that forces everybody to have
51:44
Speaker 1: to listen to the other side. You know. My theory
51:46
Speaker 1: about where America is watching two movies right now, you know,
51:51
Speaker 1: and one movie is going and half the people are
51:54
Speaker 1: watching it, and the other movie is going half to
51:56
Speaker 1: watching it, and this half will never watch this movie,
51:59
Speaker 1: and people will never watch this movie. So nobody's watching
52:02
Speaker 1: the other side movies. So everybody's caught in little their
52:06
Speaker 1: own little world. And I think it's time now for
52:09
Speaker 1: us to, you know, start talking to each other.
52:12
Speaker 2: I think it's a good thing, absolutely, I agree. Well,
52:17
Speaker 2: to wrap up here, I want to present a different
52:24
Speaker 2: type of theory that I think makes a lot of sense,
52:27
Speaker 2: and it involves Charlie Kirk's necklace.
52:31
Speaker 1: Right.
52:33
Speaker 2: So, Charlie Kirk's necklace was reportedly given to Charlie by
52:39
Speaker 2: Erica while they were dating, likely sometime between twenty nineteen
52:44
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty before they married in twenty twenty one. Now,
52:49
Speaker 2: what's interesting about the necklace that you brought up earlier
52:52
Speaker 2: in the conversation was the FBI's interest in the necklace, right,
53:00
Speaker 2: I was very concerned after Charlie had been killed about
53:04
Speaker 2: the necklace and they were looking for it. Now, why
53:07
Speaker 2: would the FBI care so much about the necklace? To
53:12
Speaker 2: Charlie was wearing under his shirt. This was never outside
53:15
Speaker 2: of his shirt. He always wore it on the inside
53:18
Speaker 2: of his shirt, which I find very odd. I mean,
53:20
Speaker 2: I wear a necklace on the inside of my shirt too.
53:23
Speaker 2: It's actually made of shung guy that nobody knows about.
53:27
Speaker 2: But the strange thing is is the FBI knew about
53:32
Speaker 2: the necklace. Right. That would be like if something happened
53:35
Speaker 2: to me Jay, And then then the FBI said, where's
53:38
Speaker 2: Ryder's necklace? You know, first off, how do you know
53:42
Speaker 2: about the necklace? Secondly, what does the necklace have to
53:46
Speaker 2: do with anything? And I'm going to give you my theory,
53:51
Speaker 2: but I want to get your thoughts first on what
53:54
Speaker 2: the deal is with the necklace and why the FBI
53:57
Speaker 2: was so concerned with the.
53:59
Speaker 1: Neck outside of a bomb residue. I can't think of
54:04
Speaker 1: any reason why they would give the crap about the necklace.
54:07
Speaker 1: They even sent what's his name, Frank Turk back to
54:10
Speaker 1: the van that's where he found it. Why did that?
54:15
Speaker 1: I mean just a necklace, you know. So I don't know.
54:19
Speaker 1: I really don't outside of the bomber residue. What's your theory.
54:25
Speaker 2: Well, Erica Kirk is now in possession of the necklace.
54:29
Speaker 2: She now has a necklace and reportedly wears it every day,
54:33
Speaker 2: just like Charlie Kirk award every day. So I'm gonna
54:39
Speaker 2: play the video in slow motion of what was going
54:42
Speaker 2: on underneath Charlie Kirk's shirt at the moment of the assassination. Here,
54:51
Speaker 2: and you've seen this a lot. Everyone has seen this.
54:55
Speaker 2: His shirt lifts up, looks like the necklace is lifting
55:01
Speaker 2: up out of his shirt from underneath his shirt. It
55:04
Speaker 2: doesn't look like that. It doesn't look like the microphone, right,
55:08
Speaker 2: the microphone isn't lifting. It's the necklace that's lifting under
55:13
Speaker 2: his shirt. And the FBI wasn't after the after the microphone, right,
55:19
Speaker 2: They didn't say where's the microphone at we need Charlie's microphone. No,
55:25
Speaker 2: it was his necklace. They wanted to know where his
55:28
Speaker 2: necklace was. Okay, so what's the chances that it wasn't
55:35
Speaker 2: the microphone that exploded. The explosive device was inside of
55:40
Speaker 2: Charlie's necklace.
55:43
Speaker 1: And it blew the mic up, and it blew.
55:47
Speaker 2: The mic up, that's why the mic was destroyed. Yes, boom.
55:52
Speaker 1: Well that is a really good way to cause a distraction,
55:56
Speaker 1: isn't it, because everyone would think it would be in
56:00
Speaker 1: the mic right or well then wowike, I don't know
56:12
Speaker 1: what to think about that theory. But if you are right,
56:15
Speaker 1: because isn't there a shot of the of the necklace,
56:18
Speaker 1: like coming out the back of the neck underneath the shure.
56:22
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is is that if it was the
56:24
Speaker 2: mic explosion that's on his right side. Well, what's the
56:30
Speaker 2: chances that that's not close to his heart that's going
56:33
Speaker 2: to hit him in the right side where the mic is.
56:35
Speaker 2: That's not going to be a fatal woe. I mean,
56:37
Speaker 2: it's going to hurt him. If that was their goal
56:39
Speaker 2: was to explode the mic that's on the right side.
56:42
Speaker 2: You would want the mic in the center or to
56:45
Speaker 2: the left by his heart, right, but it's on the right.
56:49
Speaker 2: So if you have the necklace, the necklace that hangs
56:51
Speaker 2: down into the center of his chest, right where his
56:54
Speaker 2: heart is. If you explode the necklace, the necklace lifts up, turns,
56:58
Speaker 2: shoots out the side, hits him right up the.
57:00
Speaker 1: Neck, and then Charlie like he might have leaned over
57:06
Speaker 1: and it was like slipped this way a little bit
57:08
Speaker 1: or something right and then went out through the neck,
57:12
Speaker 1: which is quite possible. Actually, you wouldn't want to do
57:16
Speaker 1: that with the squib, that's for sure. So you couldn't
57:19
Speaker 1: fake the squib with a necklace. It's impossible, But you
57:23
Speaker 1: could put a bomb in the necklace, which means that. Yeah, Eric,
57:33
Speaker 1: have you seen the video of the palm pistol Pete,
57:38
Speaker 1: You know the guy every way says it shot the
57:40
Speaker 1: palm pistol. You know that right five minutes before he
57:44
Speaker 1: does this. Yeah, he goes like that, puts hand up.
57:49
Speaker 1: Four minutes, he does this, three minutes, he does this,
57:53
Speaker 1: two minutes, one minute. I think he's the guy that
57:57
Speaker 1: ignites the explosion. I think that's what he's doing. It's
58:01
Speaker 1: not a polem pistol, it's the ignition switch.
58:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, And everybody that's running towards Charlie after it happens
58:09
Speaker 2: is putting stuff in their pockets like they're they're more
58:12
Speaker 2: concerned with grabbing things off the table and putting them
58:14
Speaker 2: in their pockets instead of like checking on Charlie.
58:20
Speaker 1: What is doing to Charlie? And then his hands stands up.
58:25
Speaker 1: You see that one. Charlie's hand goes up? What are
58:30
Speaker 1: we doing here? Right? And that must be what it is?
58:35
Speaker 1: Didn't they necklace break? Did the chain break? Is that?
58:42
Speaker 1: Did I hear that? Right?
58:44
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that there was that it either broke
58:49
Speaker 2: off in the car or somehow got out from around
58:53
Speaker 2: Charlie's knakin was in the vehicle, because that's where they
58:55
Speaker 2: found it was in the vehicle and they retrieved it.
58:57
Speaker 2: And then Erica is the one that ended up getting
59:01
Speaker 2: the necklace. But it's the only thing.
59:04
Speaker 1: The bottom of his shirt or out completely.
59:08
Speaker 2: So the necklace would have been the thing that calls
59:11
Speaker 2: the explosion. And when you look at the necklace it
59:13
Speaker 2: has it's like the circular type of necklace that comes
59:18
Speaker 2: out at four sides, right, so one side this way,
59:21
Speaker 2: one side down. It's a cross. It's across the necklace
59:24
Speaker 2: and the one side could have shot to the right,
59:29
Speaker 2: hit the microphone exploded the microphone, but not to the
59:33
Speaker 2: point that it would like that it was in that
59:36
Speaker 2: it would fall out of his shirt or whatever. But
59:38
Speaker 2: whenever they're lifting them into the van, they're carrying him
59:41
Speaker 2: by his legs, so they're carrying him like flat into
59:44
Speaker 2: the suv, so there wouldn't have been much time for
59:47
Speaker 2: it to actually slip out of his shirt. And then
59:49
Speaker 2: that's what is because I had this theory and I
59:53
Speaker 2: was watching it and then I was like, well, it
59:54
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense because how did the microphone get
59:57
Speaker 2: exploded at the bottom of the floorboard on the suv?
1:00:00
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, well, if it was the necklace,
1:00:03
Speaker 2: the next necklace calls the explosion and hit the mic,
1:00:06
Speaker 2: and that's why it's lay And that's why the FBI
1:00:09
Speaker 2: is so concerned with the necklace. If there was the
1:00:12
Speaker 2: microphone that exploded, there would be more concerned with where's
1:00:17
Speaker 2: the microphone. Let's get up all the microphone pieces. But
1:00:20
Speaker 2: the microphone was the symptom of the necklace exploding.
1:00:26
Speaker 1: Well, that's a pretty good explanation for it because it
1:00:31
Speaker 1: doesn't look like it could be the mic when the
1:00:33
Speaker 1: mic is up here, I mean, yeah, well, definitely something
1:00:40
Speaker 1: happened underneath that shirt, and and it was enough to
1:00:46
Speaker 1: break the necklace, which is pretty weird to break the
1:00:49
Speaker 1: chain of a necklace. How could that happen? A gun certainly,
1:00:52
Speaker 1: but shot couldn't do that. It hit the necklace. And
1:00:56
Speaker 1: the concern about the necklace is concerning candasis and asked
1:01:01
Speaker 1: herself this, how come Canada sized and said, wait a minute,
1:01:05
Speaker 1: if the microphone's up here, how do you get shot
1:01:08
Speaker 1: over here? Right?
1:01:11
Speaker 2: I think she's got so much stuff going on that
1:01:13
Speaker 2: it's hard for her to keep track of everything. People
1:01:16
Speaker 2: are emailing her all the time with saying things, and
1:01:19
Speaker 2: she's just trying to, you know, do the best that
1:01:22
Speaker 2: she can. She's got so much information going on. But
1:01:25
Speaker 2: it's the only thing that makes sense, because you wouldn't
1:01:27
Speaker 2: plant an explosive planning on hitting somebody in the chest,
1:01:31
Speaker 2: because that's all that was obviously the goal.
1:01:35
Speaker 1: Of the plant.
1:01:36
Speaker 2: We just listened to the lady that was a witness
1:01:39
Speaker 2: there on the news station that it hit him in
1:01:41
Speaker 2: the chest, and then a couple of hours later she's like, no,
1:01:43
Speaker 2: I hit him in the neck. So you would never
1:01:45
Speaker 2: plant the explosive on a non fatal side of the
1:01:49
Speaker 2: body that you're planning on hitting them in the chest
1:01:52
Speaker 2: because this is a non fatal side. The right side
1:01:55
Speaker 2: is a non fatal side. I mean, it's going to
1:01:58
Speaker 2: be damaging and if you're don't get to the hospital
1:02:02
Speaker 2: in time, then you're probably going to bleed out, but
1:02:04
Speaker 2: it's not going to be vital, like the thing is
1:02:08
Speaker 2: hanging in the center of your chest.
1:02:11
Speaker 1: Damn, Charlie got killed by his wife's president and it's
1:02:19
Speaker 1: a crucifix. He was a devout Christian. Wow, So I
1:02:28
Speaker 1: don't know enough about it, but the if it was
1:02:32
Speaker 1: a shape charge at the back of the crucifix, I
1:02:37
Speaker 1: guess yeah, it would work, and then it would spring
1:02:39
Speaker 1: up from doing that, just like it does in the shirt.
1:02:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, springs up, twist, twists a little bit from the explosion,
1:02:50
Speaker 2: and then because right as it happens, the shirt lifts up,
1:02:55
Speaker 2: and then I would imagine that the necklace inside of
1:02:58
Speaker 2: his shirt turns just a little bit, and it doesn't
1:03:03
Speaker 2: the explosion that's coming out the It would be the
1:03:06
Speaker 2: left side of the necklace in it. It explodes out,
1:03:11
Speaker 2: twists a little bit, and then boom hits them right
1:03:13
Speaker 2: in the side of the neck.
1:03:16
Speaker 1: Yeah. There is a video of the necklace, the chain
1:03:20
Speaker 1: coming out of the neck of the top of his shirt.
1:03:25
Speaker 1: So whatever the force was, it was enough to push
1:03:27
Speaker 1: that necklace chain like out out the back of the
1:03:31
Speaker 1: shirt for a second.
1:03:34
Speaker 2: And you know, that's what I think. Nothing that that's
1:03:37
Speaker 2: the most plausible explanation of what happened.
1:03:40
Speaker 1: And tips at candas dot com write her and tell her.
1:03:48
Speaker 2: Tips the candles.
1:03:49
Speaker 1: You should tell her because I mean, it's it actually
1:03:53
Speaker 1: helps her theory make more sense.
1:03:58
Speaker 2: Oh maybe sure, watch this go to of us talking
1:04:02
Speaker 2: about it. And I think she's on break right now.
1:04:05
Speaker 2: I think she'll be back for a couple of weeks
1:04:07
Speaker 2: or so, so maybe she'll get time to watch it.
1:04:10
Speaker 2: When I'm sure she gets so many theories and so
1:04:14
Speaker 2: many people talking that it becomes a blur. But I
1:04:17
Speaker 2: think it's very plausible and it really makes a lot
1:04:22
Speaker 2: of sense when you think about it.
1:04:26
Speaker 1: It's the only thing that makes sense when you think
1:04:28
Speaker 1: about it. Actually, the microphone theory doesn't really hold water
1:04:33
Speaker 1: at this point because it's not anywhere near the wood,
1:04:37
Speaker 1: so how could it even be happening. It has to
1:04:40
Speaker 1: be the necklace. It has to be, and that would
1:04:44
Speaker 1: explain why they're in such a rush. And of course
1:04:50
Speaker 1: the necklace must have some damage to it too.
1:04:57
Speaker 2: Let's see that necklace.
1:05:04
Speaker 1: It could be a completely different necklace by now.
1:05:06
Speaker 2: So oh yeah, I would definitely be fixed and repaired
1:05:09
Speaker 2: and all that by now for sure.
1:05:12
Speaker 1: Well that's a wild one, super wild one.
1:05:16
Speaker 2: But that's what I think happened. And I think it's
1:05:20
Speaker 2: highly palmusible when you think about it, when you look
1:05:22
Speaker 2: at the footage, how it happens. Something's going on underneath
1:05:25
Speaker 2: the shirt makes sense that it exploded outward, and I
1:05:30
Speaker 2: don't believe. And of course I'm not a ballistics expert
1:05:33
Speaker 2: like people that you know talk about. You're not a
1:05:37
Speaker 2: ballistic expert, so you can't talk about this stuff. Yeah
1:05:40
Speaker 2: we can. We can all put two and two together
1:05:42
Speaker 2: here when things don't make sense. I don't need to
1:05:44
Speaker 2: be a freaking ballistics expert to put two and two
1:05:47
Speaker 2: together to realize exactly what's going on. Okay, nobody does so,
1:05:55
Speaker 2: But a thirty odd six is I don't think it's
1:05:57
Speaker 2: going to create that much wain and from a singular
1:06:02
Speaker 2: bullet to lift his shirt all the way up like that,
1:06:05
Speaker 2: in his necklace out the back and his necklace up
1:06:08
Speaker 2: like that. It's just not.
1:06:10
Speaker 1: I'm not a ballistic expert, but I know it ain't
1:06:12
Speaker 1: gonna do that. It's not it's no anything. If anything,
1:06:19
Speaker 1: that shirt's going to go inward, not outward. So it's
1:06:23
Speaker 1: going to push in so no, no, no, no, no, no.
1:06:29
Speaker 1: The shirt is the secret to the whole entire crime.
1:06:35
Speaker 2: It's good. It's a good thing he's wearing a white
1:06:37
Speaker 2: shirt too, because if it would have been a black shirt,
1:06:40
Speaker 2: we know that they love doing the black shirt thing.
1:06:42
Speaker 2: They did the same thing with Oswald. They switched him
1:06:44
Speaker 2: into a black shirt so whenever he was shot, you
1:06:48
Speaker 2: couldn't see any blood.
1:06:50
Speaker 1: No blood. No, it's curious that he's wearing a white
1:06:55
Speaker 1: shirt that day.
1:06:57
Speaker 2: Hmmm, because it would have been very it would have
1:07:01
Speaker 2: been a lot more difficult to see exactly what was
1:07:05
Speaker 2: going on in the movement of the shirt.
1:07:07
Speaker 1: If it was a black shirt, yeah you would. Yeah.
1:07:14
Speaker 2: Well, well that's a thing's going on.
1:07:18
Speaker 1: Pardon me.
1:07:19
Speaker 2: So that's what I think is going on. I think
1:07:21
Speaker 2: it's solid to.
1:07:24
Speaker 1: Put it up in a video. Put it on, let's
1:07:26
Speaker 1: let the world see it.
1:07:29
Speaker 2: Absolutely well, Jay, thanks so much for coming on and
1:07:32
Speaker 2: talking with me about this. Can you let people know
1:07:34
Speaker 2: where they can find you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got My new film will be coming out soon,
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Speaker 1: Invisible Universe. You can find me on YouTube, reality check
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Speaker 2: Bye bye
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Speaker 1: Hmm