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INTERVIEW: Lil Jon Opens Up About Mental & Physical Transformation, Origins Of Crunk, Meditation Album + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day up we click up the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Finish y'all done morning, everybody is the j n V.
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  Speaker 2: Just hilarious, Charlamagne to gud we are the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Law La Rosa is here as well, and we got
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  Speaker 2: a special guest in the.
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  Speaker 1: Building, a motherfucking icon.
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  Speaker 3: I thought he was up here, this is his first time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's that's what I seen you on the road.
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  Speaker 2: I know, but I thought you've been up here.
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  Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Hey many, thank y'all for having me.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, it's about time.
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  Speaker 4: And everybody, we don't say good morning enough to our
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  Speaker 4: fellow brothers and sisters.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 4: I was a victim of that until I started to
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  Speaker 4: change my mindset. Sometimes I would come down, get in
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  Speaker 4: the car going, you know, on the road, I didn't
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  Speaker 4: say good morning. And once I started to change my mindset,
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  Speaker 4: I realized that's a good way to start your day.
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  Speaker 4: In a gesture to someone whoever you're riding with, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the driver, whoever, that's.
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  Speaker 1: How they feeling, and then that's how they're feeling.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes that's also the case. Sometimes just say how
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  Speaker 4: is your day gone?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 4: I found myself sometimes I'm a I'm a I'm really
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  Speaker 4: in tune to my spiritual side.
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  Speaker 3: I've been for a long time.
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  Speaker 4: Sometimes I might just be I remember being in the
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  Speaker 4: club and I might walk by a random person and
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  Speaker 4: I can feel that energy and.
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  Speaker 3: I'd be like, let me just give you a hug,
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  Speaker 3: And sometimes that just changes somebody's life absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: What about that?
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  Speaker 5: What about when you were the person that might have
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  Speaker 5: been creating energy though, Like if you felt like some
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  Speaker 5: aggressive angriness from this person, but it was your fault
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  Speaker 5: because it was.
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm gonna tell you. One time I
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  Speaker 4: was in South Carolina, a and a Hole in the
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  Speaker 4: Wall club way back in the day, and it was
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  Speaker 4: supposed to be a night where cash money was supposed
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  Speaker 4: to be there, and they called me because cash money
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  Speaker 4: couldn't come. So these folks in South Carolina was mad
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  Speaker 4: than a motherfucker was not cash money. Little johnn Eastside
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  Speaker 4: Boys show up and so I understand it's a hostile situation,
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  Speaker 4: but I said, I looked out on that crowd and
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  Speaker 4: I said, the biggest dude in this crowd, I'm about
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  Speaker 4: to make him my best friend.
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  Speaker 3: And I made him my best friend during the show,
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  Speaker 3: like playing to.
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  Speaker 4: Him, giving him drinks and hyping them up, and then
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  Speaker 4: he turned.
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  Speaker 3: Like it turned the whole crowd around, and then they
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  Speaker 3: were fans of us after that.
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  Speaker 4: But it was it was a way you can always
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  Speaker 4: change the energy of a situation if you approach with
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  Speaker 4: a calm manner. That's why good security don't go and
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  Speaker 4: try to fight somebody. They try to defuse the situation.
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  Speaker 4: That's the first rule is diffuse it, not be the aggressor.
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  Speaker 4: Lok John, I want to go back.
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  Speaker 5: So this is your first time, real quick, what is
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  Speaker 5: a little John morning routine?
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  Speaker 4: Like I knew you were going to ask me that morning,
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  Speaker 4: So this morning I woke up, had a little water
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  Speaker 4: because you know, I do my I do this Korean
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  Speaker 4: facial stuff, so I do skin.
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  Speaker 3: You know my skin is very important to my skin.
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  Speaker 4: Look, ladies, one rule for that is positivity, positive energy,
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  Speaker 4: positive thoughts, because if you're a negative person in all
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  Speaker 4: this negativity, it's gonna wear the flesh down. So get
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  Speaker 4: up in the morning and do my skincare routine, burst
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  Speaker 4: my teeth, all that good stuff. And then since I'm
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  Speaker 4: on the road, a nice healthy breakfast for me was
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  Speaker 4: two hard boiled eggs, some yogurt, some berries and a grapefruit. Wow,
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  Speaker 4: that's simple, easy and start with a positive mindset. It's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be a great day. I'm always in my mind
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  Speaker 4: saying affirmations for the day, even before I go to bed,
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  Speaker 4: in my dreams, Like last night, I was like, it's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be a great interview. This is I look at
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  Speaker 4: this as one of the biggest interviews I've ever done
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  Speaker 4: in my life because it's like, it's some fifty minutes,
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  Speaker 4: forty five minutes, fifty minutes a long interview. It's a
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  Speaker 4: lot to talk about. Charlot Man, you see me grow from.
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  Speaker 4: I think we one time we taught you were like
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  Speaker 4: you came to the radio station and in South Carolina
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  Speaker 4: one time that was early on.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't even on air yet, right.
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  Speaker 5: I think it was a phone or you called in.
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  Speaker 5: You had just put out I think you had just
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  Speaker 5: put out be a beer.
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  Speaker 3: Wow. So twenty years ago.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, So we were talking about you having the Confederate
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  Speaker 5: flag in the in the video.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't care about that. So that's what you know.
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  Speaker 4: You've seen the growth, and it's I think it's important
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  Speaker 4: because yeah, you've seen the growth. You've seen it from
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  Speaker 4: a different angle. You've seen it from a different angle.
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  Speaker 4: You've seen it from a different angle, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: you guys moved the needle of culture and you had
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  Speaker 4: everybody and their grandmama on this show. So I think
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  Speaker 4: it's one of the most important and you know, best
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  Speaker 4: interviews I think I'm going to have because because of
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  Speaker 4: all of that.
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  Speaker 1: Let's claim it. Let's claim it.
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  Speaker 3: I want to go back.
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  Speaker 2: I want to start from the beginning of these are
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  Speaker 2: the interviews I love because for some reason I thought
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  Speaker 2: you've been up here before. So I want to start
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  Speaker 2: when you first got into the music industry, right, let's
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  Speaker 2: start with you started working with your main Dupris yep
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  Speaker 2: ninety three. Let's start from there. So how did you
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  Speaker 2: hook up a Jamain dupri and what did you do
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  Speaker 2: for Jamaine Duprix.
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  Speaker 4: So I used to be in Atlanta in the nineties.
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  Speaker 4: I was like the hottest DJ in the city.
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  Speaker 3: I was the demand.
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  Speaker 4: I did all the parties and I would see Jermaine
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  Speaker 4: all the time at the clubs. And then I did
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  Speaker 4: this one club called the Phoenix night Club, which was
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  Speaker 4: the hottest nightclub in Atlanta at the time.
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  Speaker 3: We brought Biggie we brought Biggie.
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  Speaker 4: I got Biggie and Craig Mac together when they did
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  Speaker 4: the Big Mac Tour, so I got them.
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  Speaker 3: That's an interesting story because we.
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  Speaker 4: Got we we I worked on the radio station, but
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't the PD. And you know how back then
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  Speaker 4: you had to go through the PD because you wanted
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  Speaker 4: to get the spins for your artists. So Diddy, you know,
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  Speaker 4: he let us get Biggie and Craig because he thought
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  Speaker 4: I was like the PD. And he get there and
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  Speaker 4: the club is slammed like a million people and he's like, Yo,
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  Speaker 4: what the heck, Yo, we need some more money because
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  Speaker 4: this thing is packed. And then he found out that
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't the PD, and so he was extra pist.
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  Speaker 4: And then he even tried to get the rep that
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  Speaker 4: worked for BMG at the time fired because she got
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  Speaker 4: because we got Craig and Biggie for free.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, that was normal back then when artists are
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  Speaker 1: on promo.
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  Speaker 3: Tall like, yeah, but you had you wanted to go
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  Speaker 3: through the station so you can make sure.
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  Speaker 4: You get to spend get your look. And we wasn't that,
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  Speaker 4: but we were high promoters. So I was doing all
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  Speaker 4: the hot parties and I would just see Jamaine all
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  Speaker 4: the time. But like even if I wasn't DJing, I
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  Speaker 4: was everywhere, Like I had a thing where I was
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to be from.
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  Speaker 3: I called it from Bankhead to Buckhead.
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  Speaker 4: That was from the boogie spots to the the most
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  Speaker 4: hood you can get in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 3: So I was literally everywhere. And Jermaine came to me.
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  Speaker 4: Well, for one thing, people don't really know, Dallas Austin's
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  Speaker 4: brother came to me first, so his name was Claude Austin.
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  Speaker 4: He passed away, but Claude Austin came to me first
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  Speaker 4: and wanted me to work for Rowley. But then Jamaine
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  Speaker 4: came to me around the same time, and Claude ended
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  Speaker 4: up passing and so and Jamaine came because I was
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  Speaker 4: just everywhere, and he was like, I need you, someone
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  Speaker 4: like you to represent, you know, my label, because you everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: So he hired me.
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  Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety three, I started working at Social Death
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  Speaker 4: and I was hired to do A and R and
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  Speaker 4: street promotions because I was everywhere, right, so he wanted
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  Speaker 4: he wanted someone that had respecting the city, that could
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  Speaker 4: go anywhere, and someone like me that I was always out,
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  Speaker 4: so that was represent Social Death from Bankhead.
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  Speaker 3: Like I said to Buckheat.
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  Speaker 2: And what artist did you have being in a and
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  Speaker 2: off for Social Death at that time.
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  Speaker 4: I had I put together all of the Social Death
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  Speaker 4: based all stars and at night.
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  Speaker 3: I think yeah. And that changed.
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  Speaker 4: That changed music too, like it gave us a whole
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  Speaker 4: genre that had never been created, like had never been
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  Speaker 4: done before. And that all started because in Atlanta we
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  Speaker 4: used to do like it was DJ Jelly shout Out,
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  Speaker 4: DJ Jelly shout Out Uh, the j Team, DJ Smurf
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  Speaker 4: and all of those guys.
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  Speaker 3: They would take.
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  Speaker 4: Like slow jam acapellas, like say, one famous mix was
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  Speaker 4: U can You Stand the Rain? New Edition and put
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  Speaker 4: it over a base beat. So they used to do
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  Speaker 4: all of these mixes like that. They would just do
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  Speaker 4: a whole mixtape. It'll be all bass beats and then
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  Speaker 4: these R and B A cappellas, and so I was like,
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  Speaker 4: we love this so much in the city, let's take
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  Speaker 4: that and make a record from that.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody made an actual song.
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  Speaker 4: So I came up with that concept and I went
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  Speaker 4: to my boy DJ Cool Collie aka Rodney, and then
• 8:45
  Speaker 4: at the same time I met carlmo Uh. He used
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  Speaker 4: to call the phone that Social Death and play his
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  Speaker 4: tracks on the phone. Interesting story about that. So one
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  Speaker 4: day I'm like, these tracks are dope. So I called
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  Speaker 4: him to the to the office and he comes up
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  Speaker 4: there with a freaking keyboard and plays the keyboard like
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  Speaker 4: just playing the keyboard, not like no CDs, no cassette tape,
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  Speaker 4: just playing the keyboard. And I'm like, this is crazy.
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  Speaker 4: So I ended up using him and we did my
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  Speaker 4: Boo and so yeah, I did all of the Soco
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  Speaker 4: Death Base All Stars, and then out of that we
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  Speaker 4: had play a Pancho.
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  Speaker 3: He got signed and we did a couple of records
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  Speaker 3: with Player Pancho.
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  Speaker 4: And Player Pancho is actually how I met the East
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  Speaker 4: Side Boys, Wow, Because Player Pancho would always when he
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  Speaker 4: would go out, he would have a whole like.
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  Speaker 3: Twenty ten twenty guys with him, and.
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  Speaker 4: The East Side Boys was always with him, even if
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  Speaker 4: it was just like two or three guys. And so
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  Speaker 4: I was always with Pancho because he was my artist,
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  Speaker 4: you know. And so me and the East Side Boys
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  Speaker 4: just one day we were in the club and I
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  Speaker 4: think we were in the club five five nine, and
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  Speaker 4: we just start chatting this.
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  Speaker 3: Chant who who you with? Get with and then everybody in.
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  Speaker 4: The club start chatting and then I look at Big Sam.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, we need to turn this into a song.
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  Speaker 4: And so I know I have access to people with
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  Speaker 4: labels and stuff, so I called somebody I knew. Actually
• 10:09
  Speaker 4: I called kol Ace. Uh, this guy named kol Ace
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  Speaker 4: and kol A's connected me with this guy named Carlos
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  Speaker 4: Glover and we ended up going in the studio and
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  Speaker 4: we made the song who You With? And that started
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  Speaker 4: everything for a little John as an artist.
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  Speaker 2: When did you start producing? When did did the production
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  Speaker 2: bug coming?
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  Speaker 3: Uh? Probably like ninety two.
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  Speaker 2: And you never you never made beats at that time.
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  Speaker 2: You just bought a machine and said I'm on.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 4: It started off where me and my partner I used
• 10:35
  Speaker 4: to do a show in Atlanta called Reggae Jammin on
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  Speaker 4: the like main station in Atlanta, B one O three and.
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: Me and Paul I was in.
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: The sound system with Paul Lewis called four Seasons. So
• 10:48
  Speaker 4: I was like a selector like the Jamaican sound did.
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  Speaker 2: Jamaican music did every time of gen music.
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  Speaker 4: We had a we had a dance hall, We had
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  Speaker 4: a reggae show on Friday nights on the station, and
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  Speaker 4: what we would do is I would take hip hop
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  Speaker 4: a cappellas and put them over dance all beats and
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  Speaker 4: dance all a cappellas, put them over hip hop beats.
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  Speaker 4: Through that, we got linked up with Signette Records and
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  Speaker 4: we got we convinced them to give us the Cableton
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  Speaker 4: Tour a cappella. That's how I got to do the
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  Speaker 4: Cableton Tour remix. Like when I did Verses, I remember
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  Speaker 4: playing it and people were like, you ain't do that,
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  Speaker 4: like and I remember, like in real time, DJ Scratch
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  Speaker 4: pulled the vinyl out and he put in the chat
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  Speaker 4: like I'm looking at the credits.
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  Speaker 3: He actually did produce it.
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  Speaker 4: So what we did at that time we would kind
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  Speaker 4: of tell somebody how we wanted to produce the records,
• 11:35
  Speaker 4: and later on we bought a drum machine. I learned
• 11:38
  Speaker 4: how to produce by the time we got to Who
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  Speaker 4: You Wit, which was ninety five ninety six, But before
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  Speaker 4: that we kind of just told somebody like, yo, chop this,
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  Speaker 4: chop that, do this da da.
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  Speaker 3: Da d d yo.
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  Speaker 1: Did you have product your credits on my boot as well?
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  Speaker 3: I did not.
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  Speaker 4: I should have gotten some because I really co produced
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  Speaker 4: the song with them. But I thought, as part of
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  Speaker 4: my descript job description as an RS, the first project
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing that that was just part of the job.
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  Speaker 4: But I was really there every step of the way
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  Speaker 4: of inception of putting that song together.
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  Speaker 5: I'm glad you mentioned Sam and Bolt too, because people
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  Speaker 5: always seem to forget about the East Side Boys.
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  Speaker 1: What did they bring to the table?
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  Speaker 5: What made Little John and the East Side Boys such
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  Speaker 5: an amazing group?
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  Speaker 4: We were just like because we were We were the
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  Speaker 4: sound of the rowdy guys in the back of the club.
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  Speaker 3: That's where we were.
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  Speaker 4: We were them niggas that were turned up in the
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  Speaker 4: back that you just be looking back like, make sure
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  Speaker 4: they ain't coming over here with that.
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  Speaker 3: So we were that.
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  Speaker 4: And what people don't understand about krunk music. I know
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  Speaker 4: some people are like, why was it? Why did it
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  Speaker 4: do what it do? Why did it spread? Why did
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: it become big? Because it was an outlet of energy.
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  Speaker 3: For black youth. Yes, when you.
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  Speaker 4: Went to the club, you had a hard ass week,
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  Speaker 4: you had a hard life, whatever the fuck was going
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  Speaker 4: on in your life. You hear that fucking krunk music
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  Speaker 4: and you get in that damn mind and you let
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: all of that out and you feel amazing, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean. So that's why krunk music was able
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  Speaker 4: to reach so many people.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I still like going.
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  Speaker 4: Like I see you talking of all the time about
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  Speaker 4: knuck as you Buckets the Negro, and it is like
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  Speaker 4: it touches your soul in a certain way.
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  Speaker 3: And I think we do. And and like krunk.
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  Speaker 4: Music tap into music to their ancestors because they were
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: channing and so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 2: What did you do when you were a band from clubs?
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  Speaker 2: I remember in college there was some clubs that like,
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  Speaker 2: you cannot play none of that in this club, put
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  Speaker 2: your hood.
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  Speaker 3: Up and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: We just kept going because when you when you tell
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  Speaker 4: somebody can't have it, they wanted more, you know. But
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  Speaker 4: it was crazy that the music got people so rowdy
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  Speaker 4: that they were like losing.
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  Speaker 3: I've seen people.
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  Speaker 4: I was in Louisiana one time we did a show
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  Speaker 4: and it got so turned up they start fighting the
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  Speaker 4: police in the club.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy.
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  Speaker 4: I want to just talk about one thing real quick
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  Speaker 4: that it's been going viral. It's the video of the
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  Speaker 4: two dollars bill concert that we did in Atlanta. It's
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  Speaker 4: a viral video of be performing Get Crunk and that
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  Speaker 4: whole concert, and you can see the energy on each
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  Speaker 4: and if y'all look at the video, each and everybody
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  Speaker 4: in there's face is turned up. It ain't nobody, not
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  Speaker 4: one fucking cell phone in the air. Everybody's enjoying the moment.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody is energized. And even you can see that the
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: ground was shaking because the camera when it's.
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  Speaker 3: Steady, it is like moving.
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  Speaker 4: That's how much energy was in that place. And I
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  Speaker 4: think it's just a testament.
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  Speaker 3: To like.
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  Speaker 4: We just brought something different, you know, And like the
• 14:54
  Speaker 4: kids now think they are turning up, but they have
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: no idea what a real hurnt up time was from
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: the two thousand.
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  Speaker 5: And get crunked with such a great record, because I
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: didn't think you could get crunker than Kings of Crunk,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I didn't think you could get.
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  Speaker 1: Crunkd in that. But as soon as you hear who
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: in my Beohagen being me? Motherfuck you?
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  Speaker 3: Like God killed that salute Bohagen out there?
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  Speaker 5: How did you how did you even have the mindset
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  Speaker 5: to take that to another level? How did you take
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: that energy to another level?
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  Speaker 4: That beat was produced by Little j who produced Knock
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: If You Buck. So it was time to you know,
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: come and work on the album, and you know, everybody
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: down with be and me. Of course people that don't
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: know Crime Mob. Part of that was through being me,
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: so we are part of putting them out there. So
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: of course I called all of the squad, you know,
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: Trillville helped me write some of the songs, and yeah,
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Little Jay sent me. I think he sent me some
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: beats and that was one of the beats and I
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: was like, this is insane.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: I thought it was one of the crukest beats ever too.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: I think my favorite beats that I've produced are co
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: produced are been on this get crunk and what You're
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: Gonna Do and what You're Gonna Do is unique. I
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: was in New York when I did that beat. I
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: remember I was on TVT and Steve Gottlieb and shout
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: out to Brian Leach, my boy, Brian Leach. She was
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: the an R at the time. He was like Brian Leach.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: Brian Leash was like, Yo, you gotta go in and
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: knock out this song for this. I think it was
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: like a Christmas album or some Christmas crunk album that
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: Steve Gottlie wanted to put out and I'm like, he
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: can't put no fucking album out called Crump without me,
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: So like, fuck this guy. And so I was in
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: the New I was in New York and Brian was like,
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: you gotta go in and record this song. So I
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: was angry when I made that beat. I'm never mad
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: when I make tracks, but that's one of the only
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: beats I've ever made when I was angry, And that's
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: why it sounds so aggressive, because I was mad that
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: I had to go in the studio and record this.
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: I wanted to just go out like I was like,
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: I'm going on to the club. He was like, no,
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: you gotta go and do this song. And so that's
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: my anger coming out through the drummers.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Did you have a trademark the word crunk?
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I can't remember. Probably did all my ad libs.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I know that because you're the face of crunk.
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: But to me, I would have to give I would
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: take three six Mafia probably the.
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: So that's another argument going around. It's an argument that
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: says Memphis started crunk. Here's here's my Here's what I
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: will say. We in Atlanta. You couldn't be Atlanta in
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: the nineties and not be listening to eight ball MJG.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: You couldn't be riding around not listening to master P.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Master P.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: Master P changed the landscape of the South, the South period.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: He was the first one that really got us rowdy.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: I would say it was master P, but we was
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: listening to Balling G. And of course three six Mafia
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: came around that.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Do you think he got us roody before three to six?
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I think about it, about.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: It, about it, yeah, but the club Up.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Club was ninety seven? What yet about about it come out?
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I was in college.
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: I think it was like ninety five. I remember what
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: happened was in the club in Atlanta. It was playing
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: bass music and then when master P came that was.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Over about about that was ninety five, definitely. That was
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: a freshman of college.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: That was the record.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Motherfuckers in the hood was getting no limit tattoos.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: That's what changes for us. So I will say Memphis
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: is part of the influence, but our sound is different.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: Memphis was getting Bucks.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: It was ninety seven. That's even late though.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: No, No, when we got when we got Terry Club
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: was when they redid it.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: That was ninety seven.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Because I remember it says on the Vinyl Tarrtor Club
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: up ninety seven. So but it started for us with
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Master p Master about it about it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Ship just changed it.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: But we are influenced. But it's all different sounds, but
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: it all intertwined and works together.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: So what would you call what three six was doing?
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: They called it in Memphis Memphis buck, but three six
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: was doing it even we weuldn't even buck music.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: I think it was just three six created the three
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: six created their own lane of Memphis music, and then
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: they changed the landscape of what Memphis music is. So
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: salute Paul Juicy and the whole squad. That's family too.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: You know, you know what the word ask too when
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: you made when you were making these tracks, did you
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: try to make it your business not to sound the same,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: because you know, when you look at your desiography to
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: see some of the records that you did, like, I'm
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: so amazed because they don't sound the same. Right, you
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: can go to the window, to the wall, you could
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: blow your whistle over here and then you can like
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: the ship is amazing.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well it depends, well a lot of it. So
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: so let's talk Get Low. Interesting story of Get Low
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: get Load became because I was trying to make Party Up.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I was inspired by part I love dmxa's Party Up
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: so much.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I was like, I want to make something like that.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Let me go in the studio. This was like ninety nine,
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: and so I go in and I come out with
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: get Low. If you listen to it, it's got the
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: whistle like Party Up. It's some similarities. I'm inspired by it.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: But I sat on the beat. I couldn't really.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Come up with nothing.
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: And then I had a session with Yin Yang and
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: I pulled that beat out and we may get Low.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: So it comes out like that just came like I said,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: because I was trying to do something different, but it
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: turned from like a rowdy party up type song to
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: a tork song.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: But then like say tell me when to go E forty.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: We were in the studio together, and that's the energy
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: of what he's giving me and his squad is giving me, and.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: It comes out into the drummer shot.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: So every time I make the best stuff when I'm
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: in the studio, young bloods.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: We were in the studio together and it took two
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: days for us to get that song done. Like I
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: did the beat the first day. We had the verses
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: the first day, but we did not have the hook.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: And then the second day we just threw a party
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: in the studio and then Bohagen again shout out Bohagen.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: He was like everybody was throwing hooks out and then.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: He was just kind of mumbling something.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: I was like, what you got, because I'm shooting everybody
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: shit down like that shits trash, and then he's just
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: mumbling son.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: I was like, what's that? That?
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: That's it, that's it, go lay that and then I
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: got the second part, you know, And sometimes that's how
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: some of the records happened to, like you just stumble
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: onto it. The whistle blow the whistle. I did that
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: bat that. I did that beat the same week that
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: I did tell me when to go Damn.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: So I was working on E forty's album and I
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: think we had done muscle Cars that day. So too Short,
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Too Short had came to the studio a couple of
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: days after that.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: So before, like earlier in the.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Week, I was making beats and I was going through
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: sounds and I found that sound and I was like, ooh,
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: this sounded like can tails baseline, Like this is a
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: base like that. I was like, let me make some
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: with that, and I don't know what made me instead
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: of making it slow, make it fast.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Because I like to do stuff different.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: I don't like to be expected, so I was like,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: let me make it one hundred whatever bpms. So I
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: put it to the side, and when too Short came
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: to the studio a couple of days later, I was like,
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: here you go. You know I got something for you,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: But first forty turned it down to forty Forty had
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: to remind me of this the other day. He was like,
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: you know, you gave me that beat first, and I
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: was like, this sounded like Todd, so give it to Todd.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: So that's what happened.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Basically, he should get corproduction credits.
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: You didn't want it.
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: What moment made you realize Crump had officially crossed from
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: suvering energy to a global.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Move coming up doing MTV.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: They let me get in Times Square on a double
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: deckord bus with a little scrappy on tr doing what
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: you gonna do?
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Bruh MTV.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: I was gonna say MTV too, because I remember watching
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: the Video Music Awards.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: I forgot what year it was.
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: They played get Low going in the commercial break and
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: the audience went crazy, and Justin Timberlake was wilent and
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: I just remember thinking to myself, Oh, get Lowers out
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: of here.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we end up performing get Low at
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: the MTV Video Music Awards.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Get Low, Yeah, Lean Back.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: And what else we did that year, I can't remember,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: but that was that was a big time and Dave
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Chappelle was the host, So that was pretty insane.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: That was a pretty insane year for me.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: And when when you touched when you started doing R
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: and B, did you think you could do R and B?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Or was one of the things. How did you get
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: introduced to say, let me try to make R and
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: B records for doing all already doing them with the also.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Well that was different. So here's what happened.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: So Sean Garrett shout out Sean Garrett, incredible songwriter. He
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: reached out to I guess he was trying to get
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: in touch with me and he couldn't get in touch
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: with me, so he knew somebody that worked with me.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: Her name was Delicia.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Delicia had all my beats, so she gave him a
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: beat CD and that's how he got the beat Basically,
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: the freaka Eite beat.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Which turned into yeah, So she gave him the beat.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: So thank you Delicia forgiving Sean those beats, and Sean
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: wrote yeah to.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: That Freakaak beat. So crazy thing about that is that
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: beat was for mystical. Freaka League's beat was for mystical.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: So I did though.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: I used to like have labels booked me in Circle
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: House shout out be bat Circle House in Miami, and
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: I like, take a week and I just go and
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: do as many beasts as possible, and the label could
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: take all the beats put them on whatever artists they want.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: So these particular sessions was for mystical.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: That beat was in there.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: He passed on it, and so I think CEO shout
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: out Coo. He got the beat and he wrote freakalyk
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: my I don't even know, but he wrote that and
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: submitted it to the label Pete Pablo. He ended up recording.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: But I don't even know this. So Sean Garrett has
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: the beat. He writes, yeah, Usher don't want to record
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: no more songs. He done with the damn out. He's like,
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: I'm good, I got burned, I got all these other songs.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: I'm good, We're good.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: LA reads like no go record the damn song. So
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: he goes to record the song and.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: We come out with it.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: I remember going into doing the session too, like we
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: I think we recording La and we were like, this
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: is a smash, right, and so the song is in
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: the can and then I remember it was around Christmas
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: time the album was done. La Reid is in Miami
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: and he calls JD going insane, and JD called me
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: on three Way and La Reid is like.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Why am I hearing this Usher record on the.
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: Radio And basically it was the freakingly instrumental plan as
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: a bed. They had released the song as a single,
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Freaka Leak, and we didn't even know.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: I didn't even know they had used to beat.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: So La Red is going crazy and then we're like,
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: all right, we're just gonna go in and do a
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: new beat.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: Thank god we.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Did, because yeah over Freaka Leak is not as good
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: as yeah as Yeah.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: Now that's how God worked.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: And crazy story is when I went into the studio
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: to like redo the beat, I'm like, how that Pete Poplo.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: Record ain't gonna be that big. Just take all the
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: keys off, let's just play a new STI because it's Usher.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean, and I don't, you know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: I just didn't think it was gonna be that big.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: It could have been a cool record, but I didn't
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: think it was gonna be a number one song.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: Like it was.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: So that's why the beats sound similar, is because I
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: just used the same exact drums, but I played a
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: different synth line. So well, it got my boy a rock.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: My boy Rock played the scynth line, so we just
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: played a new synth line and here we are with
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: two monsters.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: It probably helped frequently though, because.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, make them together lover and friends, so that I was.
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: Going to get to that that origin story tell them.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: So when we when I can't.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: We were working on my album Crunk Juice, right, So uh,
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: instead of going with another up tempo I like to
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: be different. I could have certainly went to Usher, John
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: and Luda with another fast song. I said, let's do
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: something different. And at at in Atlanta, we go to
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Strip club for everything, so we always in you know.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: I was in the Strip club one day and the
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: DJ played the Michael Sterling Lovers.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: And Friends, and I was like, huh, that.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Could be pretty cool for Usher to do. So let's
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: let's back up. So this is before Usher's album is done.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: I give Usher the Michael STERR on the City, like
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: check this out. We should do this over this nigga
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: don't listen to it.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: He don't listen to it. So we on my album.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: So I'm like, I'm gonna take that Lovers and Friends
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: I did and do it from my album.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: So I do the beat over and I let Usher
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: know yo, I got this joint for us, like, come
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Let's do it.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: So he flies in, he records it and he's out
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: and after he does his part, so I'm just like, wow,
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: this is a smash.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: So I called Luda.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, we got another one, like I need
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: you on his asap, saying it to Luda. He did
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: his part and then I go in last because I'm
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: not the rapper, and so I was like, I need
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: to take my time to make sure my verse is
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: as catchy as possible because I can't compete against Luda Chris.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: And then it's Usher like come on. So I was like,
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: let me take something from this record. We had a
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: record called It's a record we did with Ubi.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: I forgot the name of it.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Nothing Free, Nothing Free, you forget that that's a classic.
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: Nothing's free.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: So we did nothing free like in the nineties, and
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: so I was like, that shady part was really catchy
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: on that song, but it was regional. Nobody really heard
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: it out of the South. So it's like, let me
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: take that same little thing and put that in Lovers
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: and Friends, and that will be the little catch for
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: my verse to make it catchier and a little Did
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: I know that that was gonna be.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Like people's favorite verses because it's so simple.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: It's so simple and it's catchy, and yeah, that's one
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: of That song went number one without.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: A video.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: Because it was the labels and Superstartists and Superstar.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Ad and Da Da Da Da Da.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: But number one song rap song of the year without
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: a video in the two thousands is impossible.
• 29:47
  Speaker 5: You got three of and you made me think of
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: it when you said nothing for You got three artists
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: that I feel like should have been way yeah, China White, yeah,
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Oubie and Bull Hagen Yeah what you What do you think?
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Was why did I didn't connect?
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: We worked hard, like UBI was with me for a
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: long time. We did a lot of records, but we
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: just never got the right one. Just how It just
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: happens like that sometimes with artists. Uh, China went to
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: jail right when we shot the video for Bea Bea
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: and me and my boy Rob Mac left the video
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: at the end of the video shoot.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: We drove her to prison after the video shoot, all
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: the way in Louisiana. So she did. I don't remember
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: how much time it was. It was at least five years.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: That sound mixed deliriously.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: She went to fan time for gun Running Damn yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: So she she didn't even get to perform the song
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: at his peak at all, so that that messed her
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: window up. And then bo Haggen the same thing. We
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: were just trying to get the records. We just never
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: got the records.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: We said, I set them up nicely and get crunk
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: and you know he did the hook on Dan, but
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: we just never.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Was able to translate.
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: Those are things that you know, hurt me to this
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: day because those were people that.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: Are down with me for a long time and I.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Was pushing, pushing, pushing and working they make the record,
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: but sometimes they just it just don't come out.
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 31:15
  Speaker 7: I was going to say with the Lovers and Friends
• 31:17
  Speaker 7: video when I when I watched you tell the story
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: you talked about. I know you mentioned labels loosely, but
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: you said that the labels didn't look at you as
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: a comparable artist too. Yeah, which when I heard, like,
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: I just I mean, I don't know, it made me
• 31:30
  Speaker 7: upset when I heard you say.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: Well, you gotta think Ludacris is a rapper death Jam.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: In the two thousands, Usher is fucking Usher at Monster,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: biggest guy in R and B. And I'm this guy
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: doing krunk music. You got it.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: It's not the time, it's not the same times.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Now as I'm I'm known, I'm established, I've proven myself
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: over and over again. But early in those in those days,
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: it hadn't happened yet.
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: So really, yeah, they feel like you helped the I
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: ain't that whole sound of the early.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Dude, but they didn't. I don't feel like, you know,
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: death jam, you know what I mean? Oh sure, I
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: don't think nobody got it back then. No, Yeah, lou
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: John was it was.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: He wasn't looked at as an artist per se like
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Luda or exactly Usher. He was a host, DJ production.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's what it was, hype man, producer. Yeah, you know,
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: that's the.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: Clubs without you know, what was.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: The clubs without crunk music? Little John back then like no.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: A lot less energy.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Was it ever a low period for Little John?
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: I got burnt out probably after after the forties album,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: and I think I tried, we tried to do a
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: second Trillville and Scrappy album, and I just was.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Fried from all.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: You know, you got to think about I was going
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: since the nineties, ninety three, you know, producing to was
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: that two thousand and eight or nine two thousand and eight,
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: and I'm I'm just depleted. I have no creative juices left.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: I go in the studio, I'm trying to produce and
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: trying to make stuff. I think, yet nothing's coming out.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: I think that's also what happened with two of those
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: artists too, because I might have gotten to the point
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: where I was.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Just had nothing left. I couldn't I couldn't create it.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: And then so what I started to do was just
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: go back to the foundation DJ, go back to the clubs.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: And what happened was Reggie Bush invited me out to
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: the first game in the super Dome after Katrina.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: So I went there and that night he had an
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: after party.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Went to the after party and it was a DJ
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: DJ and I was just like, this dude is freaking dope.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: So I met the dude and he was cool and
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: so the next day his.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Name is DJ Spider.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: So the next day we were I was in the
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: airport and this nerdy white dude come up to me like,
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: hey remember me? Like who the He was like, oh, Spider,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: I was DJing last night. I was like, oh shit,
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: So what happened was he really inspired me to get
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: back into DJing by the way he was mixing. So
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: me and Spider linked up. He like got me on Serado,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: he started like gave me, helped me get my music
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: library up, and we started DJing together. So I started
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: to kind of get back into DJing. And so DJing
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: brought my producer creative energy back.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Is that when the records like Shot Shot Shots and
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: all that stuff came.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: That came just by me being out and meeting people
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: and and you know learning this you know, Open Format
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: World and EDM World, and yeah, I ended up meeting lmfao.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: I was kind of following their story and uh a
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: mutual friend of ours named Eric Deluxe who kind of
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: he wrote shots too. U. He reached out to me
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: and sent me to record. I was like, this record
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: is a smash. But around that time, I think I
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: first met them when we did a pit Bull video.
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: We were on like I think it was crazy. I
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: think they were in that video. So I was kind of.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Working with Pittbull because we did the anthem we did Crazy.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Then Yeah shots came so I was still I started
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: to move into another world because I saw that EDM world.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: I kind of jumped in right at just starting to
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: get crazy, and I ended up getting a DJ residency
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: in eight in Vegas. So I've been in Vegas doing
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: a DJ residency since eight and I'm still there now.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: So that was a place where I could really, you know,
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: learn a different style, this open format world, and just
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: get my energy back from just being in the midst
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: of the people and understanding what makes people move and
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: groove again.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Because DJing is the foundation of my production.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Like I think I started playing the drums when I
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: was in elementary school, So drums and DJing are the
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: two key elements to my production style. That's why it's
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: more beat driven, and that's why they're all club records.
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: DJ side when you choose the pivot because you know
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: you've pivoted a lot. When you choose the pivot, is
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: it because of where music is going or where you're
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: going as a person?
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Where my spirit leaves me? My spirit?
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: You know, when I started to get back into djaying,
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: God put these people in my path to say, okay,
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: you should now start moving over here. And I remember
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: like telling my manager and my lawyer, I want to
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: go over here and do this DJ stuff. They like, bro,
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: you making one hundred grand or beat? What the hell
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: is wrong with you? I was like, I can't do
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: it no more.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: But I saw the future and I just trust. I
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: always trust my spirit.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, don't listen to your mind, listen to
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: your spirit. And you got to learn the difference between
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: the two. And when you learn the difference, your spirit
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: is never gonna lead you wrong. Trust it and it's
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: gonna be fine. And that's what I've been doing, you know,
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: pretty much my whole life, and everything's been okay, you
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like I've been able to now
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: have a number one dium song, hip hop song, R
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: and B song, AC song. How many people you know
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: had a hit song in every in four decades?
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: Right? You know?
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: We had a hit with even the usher Glue song.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: I think it was an AC hit number one, I
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: take it. And then I had a song with Pitt
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: Bull that came out two years ago called Jumping that
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: was like number one on some Charge. So yeah, since
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: the nineties, I've been doing this and I'm just thankful
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: every day to wake up and to still be able
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: to do this, and to also like, right now is
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: the time where the two thousands is on fire? Yeah, Like, yes,
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: it's on Like I'm doing so many shows that and
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: and for crowds that I haven't seen and you know,
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: or maybe not have done.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: It's a headline.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: I have never headlined for ten thousand people until like
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: the last couple of years Tackles. Yeah, So it's like,
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: it's amazing that that people the memories that people have
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: from that era, the fun time they had. It's making
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: this music you know now come back and it's in
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: a major.
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: Way made you what made you do the meditation?
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: So that's totally far the other end of the spectrum.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, turning fifty, turn fifty, a lot of things started
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: to happen in my life. First thing I it hit
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: me was like I asked myself what makes you happy?
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: And I said, damn, only.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: Making sure everybody else good, but that's not what makes me.
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: Like what makes me happy?
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: I couldn't really tell myself, and so I was like,
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: you know what, I need to kind of put myself first.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Like I'm not happy in this marriage. Like, so I said,
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: I want to do divorce.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: And I was around the same time, me and my
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: my good friend Doug Davis. We talked like every year
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: because he calls and gives me shit because he's he's
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: like a couple months younger than me, so he's like, oh,
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: you're old man.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: So we're talking and.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: He was telling me he wanted to introduce me to
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: somebody that was in this space and I was like, oh,
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: that's interesting because I've been listening to like all of this.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Like by neural beats to sleep.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: And relax and ocean and rain and all of this
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: type of stuff. So me and this guy kuld Bear,
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: his name is caber Sego, we connected. And so I'm
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: going through the divorce and like I didn't like where
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: my mental state was at because I'm angry. I'm like, ah,
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: why can't she just do this and that? And so
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: I'm like mad, and I don't like, that's not me.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: I'm a positive at all times person. I don't think negatively.
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: So I'm like, I started to like meditate. I started
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: to say affirmations every day, and it helped me to
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: be in a better mental state, as well as having
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: good people in my corner, like my queen.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Her name is Jamila. She was there for me at
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: that time, and she would give me.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: Like also like just positive. She would just keep me,
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: try to keep me in a positive mindset. And she
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: had been through a rough divorce too, so she can
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: give me some insight and just you know, help me
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: keep my head up. So the affirmations every day, I
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: would literally get a cup of tea and I had
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: a copper pyramid on my deck. I'll drink, get my tea,
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: go sit in this copper pyramid and meditate and just
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: say these affirmations. I'm happy, I'm healthy, I'm at peace
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: every single day and throughout the day. And so all
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: of this happened at the same time I meet Caber
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: and me and Caber are talking. He's like, let's do
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: we should do meditation. I was like, yeah, let's do that.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: I'm down with that.
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: I think that's great. Because I was saying these affirmations
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: I meditated. So we went in, we recorded a bunch
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: of stuff. But yeah, it was because I needed it
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: was time for a change in my life. I needed
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: to be in more positive mindset. One thing that I
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: also did was I was like, I would say, affirmations
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: of negativity can live inside of me.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: I like, I don't. I try to get rid of
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: all negative thoughts.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: And when I did that, when I really got rid
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: of the negative thoughts, I ain't not even saying the
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: word hate, I didn't even use that word. So I'm
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: always trying to change anything that happens to me. In
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: any negative situation, it's some positivity you can pull out
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: of that you focus on that. So I would always
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: pull that positivity out. And I've learned if you pull
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: that out, pull pull a positivity out of any negative situation,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: and you let God drive, don't try to drive and
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: trust God, everything ain't gonna always be all right. And
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: so we went in, we recorded these albums, and you know,
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: this time of my life is feeling like I'm doing
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: what God intended me to do. But what's amazing is
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: everything that got me here. I was supposed to do.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: And even like all of the music that I've.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: Given people gave people positivity. So it's always been positivity,
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: but it's meaning more now when someone tells me I
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: never meditated, you helped me meditate. I was having trouble
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: getting over this grief of losing someone.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Your meditation about grief helped me. I'm inspired to do.
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: You know how many people have called me about getting
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: in the gym. It's insane, Like celebrities, all kind of
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: people are like, you inspired me to get healthy. So
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: I feel now like I'm doing what God intended me
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: to do. It took me a long time to get here,
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: but this is the time it's supposed to be and crazy.
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: I was thinking about this the other day. I met
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: mister Farrakhan at the Source Awards and he basically told me,
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: he said, you got power, you got a voice, and
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: he basically was kind of trying to tell me, like
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: use it and that like that stuck with me, Like
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, but now I'm using my voice and
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: my power in a good way to push positivity into
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: the world.
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: So that is what makes you happy.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: That's what that's what you know. Yeah, it makes me
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: happy that just to be just to do good, you know,
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: just to do good because all that comes back.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: And when you.
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Like, a guy came to me, I did the col
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: of Guard thing, right, A guy came to me in
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: the club one night in the club and was like,
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: I did that col of Guard test because of you,
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: and it came back positive, and he did he didn't
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: have hold and cancer, but he had polyps. So just
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: stuff like that, it just makes me feel like I'm
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: doing good in the workpirate people and being a good
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: role model to my son.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: I have a daughter now, you know, she's ten months old. Congratulation.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: I look at life like with health like I got
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: to be here for her, you know what I'm saying.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: I gotta be here for her first day of school.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: I gotta be here for high school graduation, walk her
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: down the aisle. So health is even more important than me.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: It was something I was doing to just you know,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: live a long, full life. But even more so now
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: I have even more motivation because of my daughter.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: And her mother. I got to be here for them,
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: So it's crazy to see you cry because a lot
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: of people who never even thought you had ice.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: No, you know what, black man, we need to cry.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: So we need to cry.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: When you get more in tune to your higher self
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: and you stop vibrating at these low frequencies, you can.
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: Let yourself, let the energy flow. We should. We don't
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: have to be tough all the time. And you're an.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: Advocate for therapy. I push all brothers. We don't have
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: to suffer in silence. We suffer in freaking silence. Call
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: your homie sometime to just be like, my nigga, you good?
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: How you doing? Not just period, but how you mentally doing? Bro,
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Because that one.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: Little conversation could make him not go do some stupid
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: shit or take his life or whatever.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: So I started doing therapy. I push anything, any knowledge
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: that I got, I try to share with everybody because
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: we got to help each other.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: We all we got what's the gym? What's the gymy?
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: This is a trying, This is positivity abundance and it's
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: also my daughter's birthstone.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: I want to ask you a question about about marriage.
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: Like you never hear men say they were tired of
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: the marriage, like they wanted to walk away.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: What happens is when you start to walk on those eggshells.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: It's just not it's just not a positive environment. And
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: then when you get to the point where a lot
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: of times in marriage, we're just there making sure everything's good,
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: and who the hell checking on us, who's making sure
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: we okay? Who's making who's coming to us and saying
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: what do you need today?
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: What can I do for you to make you happy?
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: You know? I know we're the providers and all of that,
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: but we need that love too. We need that assurance.
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: Sometimes women go to your men and just make them
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: feel like, appreciate it because to live in today's society,
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: to go out and make that money and all of
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: the things a husband and a father has to worry
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: about every single day, Like I said, suffering in silence
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: that y'all have no clue about. Just be that positive light,
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: make that house a home, make it radiate positivity.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: You know. So yeah, man, y'all got me up here crime.
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: You might have needed to release you know.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: You know what I wanted to know when when Dave
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Chappelle was doing the skits at first, did you take
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: it as disrespectful? Did you always was like, oh this
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: is great?
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: No, A cipher sounds called me and he was like
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: when he did the first one, and he was like, Yo, Dave.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: Chappelle did this skit on you, Bro, It's crazy, it's hilarious.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: I was like, on me, I'm like, why are you
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: doing sketch on me? Like I ain't nobody.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: And he's like, bro, trust me. And so when I
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: saw it, I was like, that's really me.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: That is really me.
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: And I got on this show because I went one
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: day to just tell Dave thank you for doing the sketches,
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: because we have a mutual a friend's named Corey Smith,
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: and Cory is the reason Dave is part of the
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: reason Dave does the sketch too, because I think they
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: might have heard this song, like what song was it?
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: I don't give Yeah, I don't give him. He might
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: have heard it, and he probably was like this would
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: be interesting if that's all he says. But he's actually intelligent.
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: And then Corey was like, yeah, John, Corey thought I
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: went to morehouse. I just was always hanging out in
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: the AUC because back in the nineties, if you're from Atlanta,
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: you went to the AUC, Clark, all of that to
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: just get girls, you know what I mean. So you
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: just used to go holler at the girls. So I
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: used to be always up there. So Corey was like, no,
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: he's smart, he come from this and that. So Dave
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: ran with it, and so I went to the show
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: to thank Dave and Day was like, man, hang out,
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: I want you to.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Let's do a sketch.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: Like he didn't even have it, he didn't even know
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: I was coming, and so we was just we did
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: one sketch and then he had an idea to do
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: another one, so he just had me on camera and
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: he was off camera, and we was improving back and forth,
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: and that's how.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: We got the Little John and Little John sketch.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: And to think that I was able to improv with
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: one of the greatest comedians of our time. How many
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: people get to do that? Not many, you know, So
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: that was that was amazing. And Dave took me places
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: that music would never ever be able to take me.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: How did that change everything for you? Just that sketch.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: It just opened me up to more people that didn't
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: get it or didn't would have never listened to the music.
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: I remember just being in the airport and like all
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: kinds of white people coming to me, like the whole
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: families and all just all types of people because he
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: was moving the needle at that time for the culture.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: So and it just yeah, it just opened up a
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: lot more doors.
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: And that's when they started putting the t's in the name.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: Little John.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: That yeah so and shout out to Cat Williams too,
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: because he he co signed me too when he did
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: his Pimp Chronicles.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: I think that's his greatest special to. I'm going on
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: record saying that.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: And you know, we he brought me out and let
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: me do my catchphrases and we ended up going in
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: the studio working on some songs together. He come by
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: the house, shout out the cat. I need to get
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: you in the gym with me. Cat, you can go
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: work out, you can run, but can you push them
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: wight up?
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Do that to do?
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: People come up to you all the time like come
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: on one time, Oh.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: My god, could be yeah. Man, they don't do it
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: as much as they used to.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: But like people that used to hang out with me,
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: like say too early two thousands are you know twenty
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: tens used to be like, bro, you don't get tired
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: of that?
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: And I'm like I don't even hear it no more.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: I zone them people out but like, yeah, I used
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: to be a like TSA a grocery store exactly, and
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: they do it, so they they expect me to do it,
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: so they keep doing it and I might just.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Be like, what's up, bro, meditation album?
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: You do it's a soft yeah, but you yeah, yeah.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: So that's the new the new meditation album. So when
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: we did the first, we recorded a bunch of stuff.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: When we you know, early too well. Sorry.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: When I did the first meditation album, I recorded a
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: couple other projects. So one of the projects was something
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: that my my god, Doug Davis came up with. He
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: was like, you should take your songs and remix them
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: into meditations, and I was like okay, So we recorded it,
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: but I was like, this don't need to come out
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: first because nobody's gonna take me serious.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna like, yeah, get low and ground, you know.
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: So I was like, we're not gonna do that first,
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: So now the time we're gonna drop that. I think
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: it's a fun project, but it's real meditations, but it's
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: just a playoff of the songs that you know and love.
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: I just got a couple of questions, you know, the
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: industry rewards constant energy, right, like you gotta always be on.
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: How did you learn the difference between performance energy and
• 51:43
  Speaker 5: just personal peace?
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: I just in myself it's spiritual again, Like I'm just
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: I just know when to be crazy little John, I know,
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: be going to be.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Just cool, chill.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: It's just just.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Let my spirit got me everywhere, you know what I'm saying.
• 51:58
  Speaker 5: So and you talking about the meditation and the mindful
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: this like what I would ask when you at the
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: height of crump. Did you even have the language for
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: like stress and anxiety and burnout back then?
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: No, I didn't.
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: I was just go go go go, go, go, go, go, go,
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: go go go. It was all just cause I don't
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know where the peak is, you know what
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: I mean? And I don't even expect to get where
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: I got, you know, because I just started off me
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: and the East Side Boys. We did that first song
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: who You With, just to make something for the clubs
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: of Atlanta, and then that turned into Okay, now you
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: gotta do an album, and then that turned into being
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: on Anger Management tour with Eminem and fifty cent, and
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: then fifty cent even took me to Australia.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: I went on tour with fifty in Australia, you know
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So it's like I'm just happy to
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: be here.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: I'm just gonna keep going because and that's how I am, Like,
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: I just I gotta work. I gotta keep working, you know,
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: because these are opportunities that are coming to me. So
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: I don't want to you know, somebody sitting at home
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: right now wishing they could be out or somebody else
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: could take this opportunity and use it if I don't
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: use it.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take advantage of all of that.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: You are a big drink at one time and totally
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: stopped Yes, yeah, what made you stop that drinking?
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Turning fifty.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: To fifty to stop drinking?
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: Ye, judge, judgment, you still.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: So I turned fifty and for a while, like a
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: year or two, I had this constant like discomfort, excuse me,
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: discomfort in my side and I didn't know what it was.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: So fifty like I.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: Need to go get a I need to go to
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: a doctor, right, So I went to the doctor and
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: the doctor is like, okay, for one is I thought
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: it was my liver because I'm like, I drink too much.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: It's got to be my liver, and I'm scared. So
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: he's like, your liver's on the other side.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: It's not your li.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: And then he's like, it's probably inflammation in your gut.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: He's like, you're you're fifty years old. You need a
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: colonoscopy anyway to check for polyps. So when I'm in there,
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: I can check. I can do an endoscopy and check
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: your gut. So comes back and I have inflammation in
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: my gut. So I had stopped drinking because I was
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: scared of deliver. So I had already stopped. So by
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: the time I had the colonoscoy, it had been like
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: six months, and I was like, I'm good, I'm just.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Gonna not drink no more. So I think I was
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: going like three months and I was like six months.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: I was like nah.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: Then I was like maybe I go nine months. Then
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: I went to a year, and I was like when
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: I got to the year mark, I was like, I'm good,
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: I don't even need to drink no more, you know.
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: And I think one thing that kind of that that
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: like brought some insight to me, like health has been
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: like important me for a while because I knew like
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: a guy that had a triple bypass.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: He was like thirty five.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: So that started me first on my like I need
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: to start correcting stuff with myself before it's too late,
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: because the older you get, the harder it is to
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: reverse what's going on. So that's that started. And then
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: when I was dating my partner Jamila, she really pushed
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: me into I think she saved my life because she
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: pushed me into getting my blood work done and getting
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: lab work done.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: I found out I had inflammation in my gut.
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: Like I knew I had inflammation in my gut, but
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: I candida gut is the key to a lot of
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: problems in your body, so you got to get the
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: I saw the rock talking and he said his gut
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: was messed up too, So no healthy bacteria in my gut,
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: Candida inflammation. And then I found other markers in my
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: blood work that I was like, oh, I gotta change
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: this or take this out of my diet. So all
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: of that helped me to like hone in on exactly
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: what I needed to do also to get my health
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: like more.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: Tuned tuned in too.
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: I saw you say it was like it came out
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: of a like a a haze.
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: Stop drinking because if you think about it, I was
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: drinking every weekend, so I never fully got over the drinking.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: Like I would drink a bottle of forty two a night, Jesus, Jesus,
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: Like so Friday, Saturday a bottle of forty two.
• 56:11
  Speaker 7: Acoholic drinking, but all the lights, a whole bottle every.
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: Because I'm doing shots.
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: We might do a couple of shots, but we ain't
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: doing a whole bottle.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: I'm the party guy.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: We don't want to drink with me, and I got
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: to drink with everybody. When I turned down the shot,
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: they were like, bro, come on, man, yeah, so I
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: gotta damn near a bottle of night.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: So I'm always constantly.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: Getting over the hangover or the getting My body is
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: still trying to recover, so I never am recovering. So
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: when you lay off the alcohol, you come out of
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: that fog and it's like it's like everything is clearer, everything,
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: you know. So I just I like the way that felt.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: And then you know, when I started working out, it's
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: like I can work out like you can't work out
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: when you hungover. And then you put an alcohol in
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: your body. That's sugar, that's that's not gonna help you
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: get the goals.
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: So if you write a book, you know it should
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: be to have a chapter turned down for what and
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: you talk about exactly all the reasons why you ask
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: you turn down.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, especially especially when you get in your up there
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: in the years, you know, because right I'm fifty three,
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: I'm going down the hill, you know what I mean.
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: I want to have That's another thing. At my fifties,
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: I was like, I'm over that top. I don't know
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: how much time I got. I want to enjoy my life.
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: I want to enjoy my life. I want to do
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: stuff that makes me happy.
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: Do you think people truly understand the loneliness that can
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: come with success and entertainment.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: No, because they just see the private jets and the
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: trips and all that.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: They don't realize.
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you can't go nowhere because people bugging you.
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: You can't spend time with your loved ones without people
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: bugging you, or the the I gotta make another hit record,
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like or even when you
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: start to go down, you're not as hot as you were,
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: people not picking up the phone and all that.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: Lot of most people couldn't deal with this life. It
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: could not deal with it because it's too much pressure.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: Then people on the internet with all their opinions and
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: all of this and that, and it's a lot of
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: pressure that you cannot be built weak to be in
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: entertainment industry.
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: So yes, sir, when you my last question, when you
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: think about legacy, now, how much of it is about
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: peace and purpose.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Rather than I guess the plaques and the parties and
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: all that.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: I think my legacy is going to be all about
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: positivity because every step of the way it's been crunk
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: was positive. It was a positive release. Then EDM stuff
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: was positive, positive part It was all partying based initially.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: But it wasn't like I was saying go do a
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: drive by on the ops, you know what I mean.
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: It was just like, hey go release, turn up, you know.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: And then you know, now in my latter years, it's meditation, mindfulness,
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: get therapy, fellas I'm gonna tell everybody out there, get therapy,
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: get a therapy. If it's going through it. You should
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: not be left to your own devices to deal with
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: some serious issues. Sometimes you need to talk to someone
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: that's a qualified person. And I did em dr.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: Did you ever do Mdr?
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: EMDR is amazing because it taps into your subconscious. When
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: I did em DR, stuff came out that I didn't
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: even really didn't know what's there. So it can tap
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: to the it can find the root of why you
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: got that trauma.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: And then like, so, yeah, I have not done any
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: of that yet.
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: I don't want to do it. I'm thinking about it,
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: but I don't want to. I don't want it to
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: change me. It won't because I just feel like I'm
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: already at a certain place. But I do want to
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: go tap into those things that I have locked deep
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: deep depail.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: A lot of people who've done D and MAR tell
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: me that the experience is pretty similar because it's just
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 5: everything that is in your subconscious that you suppressed.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: God is like, no, look at it. Yeah, it's all
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: on the table.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: A scary feeling that stuff.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: No, it's just it's profound.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: Em DR is profound because it's like that's why I
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: act like that, or that's why my mother treated me
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: that way, or this is why that happened. It helps
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: you and then like em DR, like when I did
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: it recently, I was able to go to my childhood
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: self and say it's okay, I'm here, it's fine, You're
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: you're loved, you're appreciated, you know, all of that, and
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: it helped me to get.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Past whatever that was.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: So that's why I like it, because it's stuff that,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: you know, because I was kind of not forced, but
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: I was like, someone was like, you should, you know, go,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: you should try it, you know, because it helped them.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: And I did it and I was like, man, I'm good.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: I don't need this.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: And then I was like, damn, it's like I did
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: not know that.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: And the more you do it, the more stuff comes
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: to you and you just realize this is.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: Why I'm the way I am.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: I can now get past this and I can change
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: these habits, you know, and I.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: Can be living more. I can live a better life. Wow.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: Man, little John, you are an icon, living living and
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: one of the greatest producers of all time.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: You bought people so much joy.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: In this next chapter of your life where you are
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: helping people heal, I think it's gonna be your best
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: work yet.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: But brother, I do too. I do to.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: It feels so good when people come to me and
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: say you help me, you know, without me even directly
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: doing anything for them, I'm helping so many people and
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: inspiring people like with the with the fitness journey, with
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: the you know, the bodybuilding thing, coming in third in
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: this competition. I it was just it was hard, hard
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: to just do it period. It was hard to just
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: even get there. And I was just happy to be
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: a part of it. And I just want to inspire
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: people to say that that say I can't work out,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: I don't have time. I'm on the road, i'm a
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: new father, I'm in the studio, I'm doing a million things,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: and I'm able to go to the gym and transform
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: my body, eat right, do all these things.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: So you can do it too.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: Blanks Man, you can do.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: You can training hit training with It's your music playlist,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: all the crunk music going body by John.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: I love it, Okay, help me out with it. Solon
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: Man happy though, Oh no, I love it. Inspire. There
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: you go.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Well, Little John, we appreciate you for joining us. And
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: also December eighteenth, you're performing for our sister station.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: Shingle jingle Ball.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: So what what should the people expect for Little John
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: and that show Crunk period? They want it because it
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: says Little John in Friends, It's.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Krunk, Crunk and Friends.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: Crunk, crunk, you know, commercial just it's Atlanta and I
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: gotta hit them hard, you know, Jermaine talking crap like
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: but Jamaine my best family. Jermaine actually called me, was like,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: who you're bringing out?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I got friends friends.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: So but I'm just gonna bring the crunk. That's what
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: That's what they want. That's what I'm gona give them.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: That's what they ain't seen in the whild So that's
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: what I'm giving them. I ain't trying to do nothing
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: crazy crunk excited.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: Could that error ever come back? Like the way metro
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: Booman just did futuristic someer? Could that crunk era ever
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: come back?
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 3: If it did, it'll I don't know if people can
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: handle it.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: I think we need like grown people who don't get
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: the release.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe you have something you put everybody. Everybody put their
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: phones up, but.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: You don't heal the same way.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: You can't bebody.
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  Speaker 7: And I don't know how to sprinkle down to the yns,
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 7: Like how would they don't need sprinkle. I don't think
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 7: that krunk could be recreated, but I'm glad that we
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 7: do have these crunk classics.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 6: That will never die.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: So I don't think it could come back.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: Maybe I do something next year, Maybe I do, Like
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: why not you know Metro did?
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Maybe why not? I was talking about it. But it's
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: got to be the right Everything with me is the
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: right time.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 4: You know, when the universe tell me it's time for it,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: that's when it happens.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: All right, Well ninety six point one, get your tickets.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: He will be performing at the Atlanti's Jingle Ball. Can't
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: wait to see you guys. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: Every day. I waiting up the Breakfast Club. Finish, y'all
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: done