Latest / Becker’s Healthcare Podcast / Christopher Newman, President and CEO of Mary Washington Healthcare
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- 0:32This is Laura Dirdo with the Becker's Healthcare
- 0:34podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by
- 0:36doctor Christopher Newman, president and chief executive officer
- 0:39at Mary Washington Healthcare.
- 0:41Doctor Newman, it's a pleasure to have you
- 0:42on the podcast today.
- 0:44Thank you. It's my pleasure to be here.
- 0:46Fantastic. Now I I'm excited to have you
- 0:49here because I know there's so much happening
- 0:51in health care today, and particularly, I'm looking
- 0:53forward to learning more about Mary Washington Healthcare.
- 0:55But before we dive in, can you please
- 0:57introduce yourself and tell us a little bit
- 0:58about your background?
- 1:00Yeah. So, I'm an internal medicine physician. I,
- 1:04went to medical medical school and trained at
- 1:06Georgetown University in Nation's Capital.
- 1:09And I started off my career as a
- 1:11small town primary care physician in rural Southern
- 1:14Illinois and did that for many years. It
- 1:17was really a a very rewarding part of
- 1:19my,
- 1:20career. And then I moved, east,
- 1:23working,
- 1:24at the Lehigh Valley,
- 1:25health network.
- 1:27And then I went out, got my MBA
- 1:29at University of Virginia and,
- 1:31started moving into,
- 1:33administrative roles, starting off as a chief medical
- 1:35officer within the Penn State Health System, and,
- 1:38I joined Mary Washington
- 1:40in 2019
- 1:42as a in a dual role as chief
- 1:43operating officer and chief medical officer of the
- 1:46health system.
- 1:47And then our, prior CEO, got an exciting
- 1:50opportunity in California this year, and that opened
- 1:53up the role for me. And I've been
- 1:55in the role of CEO since, March.
- 1:58So new to the CEO chair.
- 2:01Well, fantastic, and congratulations,
- 2:03you know, on taking that role. I know
- 2:04it's a huge responsibility, especially,
- 2:07given how dynamic the health care space has
- 2:09been today. So what's your first,
- 2:12I don't know,
- 2:13I guess, eight, nine months been like or
- 2:15so?
- 2:16Yeah. It's it's definitely been very challenging. And
- 2:18I you know, talking to other CEOs, I
- 2:20don't know that anything can can quite prepare
- 2:23you,
- 2:24for for the role. You know, being an
- 2:27an internal candidate and having been here for
- 2:29a number of years in the COO role,
- 2:31I think I underestimated
- 2:33the differences in the role and,
- 2:35how how really, big the CEO role can,
- 2:39can be. It's definitely much more external,
- 2:42as well. So there's a lot more external,
- 2:44components to it. And, really, everybody looks to
- 2:47you,
- 2:49as as
- 2:50for all the answers and for the direction
- 2:52of the organization. So it's really been interesting.
- 2:55I can imagine so. Well, you know, in
- 2:58thinking about the last year, what was one
- 2:59of the most important initiatives you led? What
- 3:02did you do, and what were the results?
- 3:04Yeah. So what we had many, many big
- 3:06initiatives last year, but one of the ones
- 3:08that I you know, with me coming into
- 3:10the role,
- 3:11was really cultural transformation.
- 3:14You know, we we have been on a
- 3:15journey to really not only improve our patient
- 3:18experience, but also improve,
- 3:20the experience of all our associates and and
- 3:23workforce.
- 3:24And I I think, you know, really coming
- 3:26out of the pandemic, I saw this, pretty
- 3:28profoundly,
- 3:29not just in health care, but all industries,
- 3:32really that move to a transactional
- 3:34relationship with work.
- 3:36And, you know, I think, remote work kinda
- 3:38maybe,
- 3:40accelerated some of, some of that. But,
- 3:43you know, and even in health care, you
- 3:44see people moving away from truly the the
- 3:47purpose it is of what we do and
- 3:49and, honestly, the privilege,
- 3:51of what we do in health care. So
- 3:53really using the opportunity
- 3:55to our tire teams back into mission,
- 3:59make sure our teams feel supported often in
- 4:01some very, very difficult and challenging roles that
- 4:03they have in in health care, and, really
- 4:06just elevate,
- 4:07the morale and the experience,
- 4:09of the whole organization.
- 4:11And really, that cultural transformation has to happen,
- 4:14at the top and then, really cascades through
- 4:17our our our whole leadership team. And as
- 4:20we hit into, you know, sort of the
- 4:22holidays here, it's not lost on me that
- 4:24as many, many people are home with their
- 4:26families and able to decompress.
- 4:28I literally have thousands of our associates and
- 4:31and caregivers and physicians
- 4:33who will be working,
- 4:35day and night through the holidays caring for
- 4:37our community. So,
- 4:38there's a challenge, but it's also a great
- 4:47result front,
- 4:48you know, pleased to say this year we've
- 4:50been certified as a great place to work
- 4:53for the fifth, year consecutively.
- 4:55And for the first time we were recognized
- 4:57by Forbes as a, as a top 200
- 5:00midsize employer in The US and that's of
- 5:02course all industries.
- 5:03So that, you know, it's really nice to
- 5:05get that,
- 5:06recognition.
- 5:08Some of our internal
- 5:09surveys showed that we had an in increased
- 5:12faith and leadership,
- 5:13of 9% year over year. So that's a
- 5:15huge,
- 5:16gain in a year.
- 5:18But really, you know, those are the some
- 5:20of the external,
- 5:21but I'm starting to feel it as I
- 5:23as I round, walk around. You can really
- 5:25see it in the expressions and the the
- 5:28demeanor of our of of our staff,
- 5:30as I as I hope,
- 5:32we've
- 5:33removed the distance between,
- 5:35leadership and our bedside,
- 5:37caregivers
- 5:38and, you know, really worked hard to create
- 5:41authentic relationships
- 5:42between,
- 5:43the leadership team as well as it to
- 5:45our our our frontline staff.
- 5:48Well, that's really cool to hear. And I
- 5:50know it's not easy to do to go
- 5:51through some of those cultural transformations, especially in
- 5:54trying to figure out how you can,
- 5:57elevate that morale and find those meaning, find
- 6:00the why in in the things that the
- 6:02team is doing on a daily basis, especially
- 6:04on the front line. It's just such critical
- 6:06work. When you're looking into the next year
- 6:09or so, what are the big priorities and
- 6:10headwinds that you're focused on?
- 6:13Yeah. So my my biggest priority is is
- 6:15really
- 6:17workforce.
- 6:18You know, I know everybody across the nation
- 6:20is, is struggling with, workforce. There just aren't
- 6:24enough licensed,
- 6:25healthcare professionals,
- 6:27to really care for our, our communities. But
- 6:30my particular community is,
- 6:32challenged even more than most.
- 6:34When we look at certain metrics like physicians
- 6:37per capita, physicians per 100,000
- 6:39population in our market, we rank in just
- 6:42the second percentile in the nation,
- 6:44in that metric to the bad,
- 6:46Meaning, we have less than half the the
- 6:49physicians per 100,000 than than an average community,
- 6:52and the average community is is,
- 6:54short on health care providers.
- 6:57And it's only, compounded by the rapid population
- 7:00growth that we're seeing in our region. I
- 7:03think a lot of people think about a
- 7:05physician shortage areas, maybe a rural county that
- 7:08needs five docs and only has one. We
- 7:10have a thousand, physicians, 100 medical staff, but
- 7:13we need 2,000.
- 7:14You know, we have a a large, region
- 7:17here,
- 7:18that's that's growing between Washington DC and Richmond
- 7:21right on the 95 Corridor, but, we just
- 7:24can't recruit fast enough to keep, on top
- 7:26of it. So,
- 7:28we are working very, very hard on all
- 7:30sorts of pipelines for all sorts of, licensed
- 7:32health healthcare professionals.
- 7:34And we're, transitioning from a community healthcare system,
- 7:38hopefully to an academic,
- 7:39healthcare system so that we can really become
- 7:42a destination for clinical education,
- 7:45here in in the Commonwealth Virginia.
- 7:47So we have, plans potentially
- 7:49of a medical school where we are working
- 7:51through processes with our local and state officials
- 7:54on,
- 7:55creating a medical school here regionally.
- 7:58We are working with our local community colleges
- 8:00and, four year university here on pipelines for
- 8:04other, licensed healthcare professionals. And we launched,
- 8:07graduate medical education for the first time in
- 8:10a large,
- 8:11fashion
- 8:12about three years ago, and we are building
- 8:14out all sorts of specialties.
- 8:16Next year we have cardiology and gastroenterology
- 8:19and psychiatry and rheumatology. We're we're looking to,
- 8:23start. We just did anesthesia and general surgery
- 8:26and primary care specialties. So,
- 8:28we are we're really looking to build out
- 8:30the full,
- 8:32host of,
- 8:34medical specialties
- 8:35to kind of, create our own and create
- 8:37a sustainable pipeline for the future.
- 8:40That's an amazing,
- 8:42goal. And especially when you think about, you
- 8:44know, as you mentioned, bringing in additional providers
- 8:47to more of a rural setting is not
- 8:49easy, by any stretch of the imagination. But
- 8:52then too, I know the health care,
- 8:54you know, professional landscape right now is just
- 8:57a very competitive space. And so I think
- 8:59it's really interesting to hear that you're looking
- 9:01at becoming an academic,
- 9:03health system and looking at the medical school
- 9:05as well. What does it take to stand
- 9:07up something like that? I I can imagine
- 9:09it's, you know, a lot of moving parts
- 9:12and and and takes a lot of planning,
- 9:13but, also, you know, it seems like you
- 9:15you're very execution oriented. So I'm curious. How
- 9:18do you,
- 9:19you know, decide to move forward with that?
- 9:21And and and, what does it take to
- 9:23to really make that transition?
- 9:26Yeah. It's it it definitely is a is
- 9:28a very, heavy lift.
- 9:31Although we could do it by ourselves, we
- 9:33are lucky to have,
- 9:35a four year university, a state university, University
- 9:38of Mary Washington, right here in our community.
- 9:40That's literally our campuses are adjacent.
- 9:43And we are looking to do this as
- 9:45a public private partnership really to, create a
- 9:48sustainable pipeline of physicians for our region, but
- 9:51as, as well as other areas that are
- 9:53challenged
- 9:54in the Commonwealth. So,
- 9:56you know, they, they've been a perfect partner
- 9:58to kind of help,
- 9:59stand this up.
- 10:01There's a lot of discussions with,
- 10:03state and local,
- 10:05officials because,
- 10:06there's many approvals needed, including,
- 10:10funding as well as licensing and, and approvals
- 10:13of, of this program. So,
- 10:15we've spent a lot of time with a
- 10:16lot of communication,
- 10:18with with our elected officials,
- 10:21so that, they understand the need and, can
- 10:23buy in,
- 10:24to to what we're trying to do here.
- 10:27Philanthropy will play a a huge component
- 10:30as well.
- 10:32So, we're really looking for,
- 10:34wealthy individuals or people of means, that really
- 10:37care about the community and, health care to
- 10:40help contribute,
- 10:41so that we can keep,
- 10:43the the tuition low enough that we can
- 10:45really attract, patients, not patient, students from our
- 10:49communities,
- 10:50to really, create this sustainable pipeline because,
- 10:54people are tend to be able to wanna
- 10:57practice,
- 10:58in the communities they grew up. If they
- 11:00have the opportunity to go to medical school,
- 11:02undergraduate,
- 11:03residencies,
- 11:05there's there's a strong retention,
- 11:07piece to that as well. So we're really
- 11:09looking to create a, a pipeline
- 11:12here in the Commonwealth for the Commonwealth.
- 11:14So we're trying to do something a little
- 11:15bit different,
- 11:17than some of our other great institutions we
- 11:19have in the state that,
- 11:21focus a lot on academics and research and
- 11:23some of those areas. We are gonna be,
- 11:25really focused on clinical education for those that
- 11:28are really wanting to, practice in our communities.
- 11:32That's great to hear. Thank you so much
- 11:34for digging a little bit deeper there. Now,
- 11:36I I know a lot of exciting things
- 11:38ahead, but I'm I'm curious. What do you
- 11:40think the hardest thing you'll have to do
- 11:42in the coming year will be?
- 11:44Well, on top of all the the exciting
- 11:46cultural transformation and, you know, and and the
- 11:48academics and all that,
- 11:50we're also, you know, facing a lot of
- 11:52financial challenges as I think many many health
- 11:55systems are.
- 11:56You know, we
- 11:58as our pair mix here locally has changed,
- 12:01we we've just lost three forty b, this
- 12:04year. So that has been, certainly,
- 12:06a challenge. And I know others in the
- 12:08Commonwealth are starting to talk about this as
- 12:10the big, beautiful bill rolls in and there
- 12:12may be, met people disenrolled for Medicaid that
- 12:15could change some of the ratios and, subsequently
- 12:19create challenges,
- 12:20for them as well. And that's a, you
- 12:22know, a very, very
- 12:23financial peace.
- 12:25And then we're we're really struggling with the
- 12:28cost of contract labor.
- 12:30Locums for physicians coverage. As I said, we
- 12:32have we are very
- 12:34short short staffed for what our region needs.
- 12:37So there we we really have to look
- 12:39ahead with a lot of cost containment
- 12:41and continuous financial improvement as we look at,
- 12:45you know, the headwinds,
- 12:46that our industry and our region have, ahead.
- 12:49So that's hard work to do, as you
- 12:52are also trying to increase the morale and
- 12:54the cultural experience of our associates,
- 12:57and and grow.
- 12:58So it's it's a challenge to do all
- 13:00three simultaneously.
- 13:03Absolutely. That that is definitely,
- 13:05a a huge, huge challenge, but it seems
- 13:07like,
- 13:08you know, you've got a a great foundation
- 13:10there.
- 13:11When you think about, you know, being able
- 13:13to do all of these things,
- 13:14how do you ensure that your leadership team
- 13:17is ready, and,
- 13:18you know, you're prepared to tackle,
- 13:20some of the challenges ahead?
- 13:22Well, as I, you know, as I moved
- 13:24into my role,
- 13:27you know, we had several very, very long
- 13:29standing,
- 13:30c suite members here at Mary Washington,
- 13:32retire simultaneously.
- 13:34So,
- 13:35I have an entire new team, here at
- 13:37Mary Washington and I had, the ability
- 13:40to, to select that team.
- 13:43So really,
- 13:44being able to bring in people that share,
- 13:47the vision and, and, the mission that we
- 13:50are trying to accomplish here,
- 13:52was, was definitely exciting. So I am, I'm
- 13:55really lucky to have a a fantastic team,
- 13:56and
- 13:58I think they're all up to the task,
- 14:00and and this is a team sport.
- 14:02We we need a lot of different people
- 14:04from a lot of different,
- 14:05disciplines to kinda,
- 14:07you know, bring these visions and these dreams
- 14:10to fruition and execute on them. So,
- 14:13got a great team.
- 14:14Communication is is big. You can't just,
- 14:17you know, say something once and those, messages
- 14:21need to be cascaded
- 14:22throughout the organization. As you can imagine, transitioning
- 14:25from a community health system to an academic
- 14:28health system is change for for everybody,
- 14:31because all of our caregivers are now having
- 14:34to do some education as well as they
- 14:35work with students and residents,
- 14:38here that we already have within the health
- 14:40system. So,
- 14:41really everybody understanding the why behind,
- 14:45the decisions we're making,
- 14:47getting everybody excited about the vision and and
- 14:50where the health system is going,
- 14:53is really a a big part of what
- 14:54I do, every day.
- 14:57I love that. I think, you know, it's
- 14:59definitely critical and great to, see you've been
- 15:02able to to compose that leadership team and
- 15:04and can move forward, as one voice. Now
- 15:07before we wrap up, where do you see
- 15:08some of the best opportunities for organizational growth
- 15:11coming down the pipe?
- 15:13Yeah. So we're we're a little different, I
- 15:14think, than a a lot of markets as
- 15:16well in that we're we're growing. The population
- 15:18is growing so rapidly here, and we are
- 15:21in a bit of a transformation. So we
- 15:23have a lot of opportunities
- 15:24ahead of us. And, you know, my challenge
- 15:27is where to deploy capital, what to prioritize
- 15:30because we could do so many things,
- 15:33here.
- 15:33But our our immediate population has just tipped
- 15:36over 500,000.
- 15:38So we are now starting to stand up
- 15:39some,
- 15:40higher tertiary and quaternary level services here at
- 15:43the health system. We just launched,
- 15:46for neurology and acute thrombectomy program. We're, making
- 15:49a lot of,
- 15:52investments in the neurosciences.
- 15:53We've recruited four new neurosurgeons to the health
- 15:56system. And, so we're really being able to
- 15:59advance the sophistication of care, so that people
- 16:02don't have to leave, this community to,
- 16:05to get care. And often
- 16:06historically, they've had to go to Washington DC
- 16:08or Richmond or others,
- 16:10for for those higher level care. So we're
- 16:13we're we're doing a lot of investments in
- 16:14in more sophisticated care and more tertiary and
- 16:17quaternary level care, which is kind of exciting.
- 16:20And then, just a lot of the,
- 16:22expansion that we need to keep up with
- 16:24the the growth of the community.
- 16:26So, a lot of investment in ambulatory new
- 16:29ambulatory sites,
- 16:31at primary care practices,
- 16:33etcetera so that we can make sure that
- 16:35we have access points for everyone.
- 16:38Absolutely. That makes a lot of sense, and
- 16:40it was just really helpful to know. Doctor
- 16:42Newman, thank you so much for joining us
- 16:44on the podcast today. This has been a
- 16:45really fun conversation, very inspiring,
- 16:48and I look forward to connecting with you
- 16:50again soon and seeing you in April at
- 16:52our annual meeting. I know you'll be speaking
- 16:53on a panel, and I'm sure we'll be
- 16:55digging deeper into some of the themes we
- 16:57talked about here. But, just will be really
- 16:59excited to see you then and, look forward
- 17:01to having a great, great meeting at that
- 17:04point too. Yeah. I'm looking forward to it.
- 17:06Thank you.