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Magic: The Gathering, Comfort Movies, and Puppy Monkey Baby with Sweet Bike · Rock For Initiative

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  What's up everybody? Welcome to another episode of
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  Rock for Initiative. My name is Phil and I am your
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  host. Today we're talking to Chris
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  from the band Sweet Bike. Chris is honestly one of the
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  most delightful people I think I've ever had a chance to talk
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  to. We talk about a lot of, I mean a
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  lot of different stuff. Chris has a theory about comfort
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  movies. We talk about Nirvana, the band,
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  the show. We talk about Magic the
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  Gathering. We even like talk for a long
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  time about Puppy Monkey Baby. I don't know if you guys
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  remember Puppy Monkey Baby, but we get into Puppy Monkey Baby.
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  I will preface this episode by saying that our interview got a
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  little messed up on the recording software that I used
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  and I was not able to get like the uploaded version.
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  So it's a little low quality, but it's still good.
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  But yeah, Sweet Bike's new album comes out tomorrow or is already
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  out depending on when you're listening to this and it is
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  called Get Off Your High Horses and Raise the roof.
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  And it's pretty phenomenal. I've had a chance to listen to
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  it. We should have a review up on
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  Never a phase Network, which we are a part of.
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  So make sure that you check that out tomorrow as well.
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  There's also a release show for the album next month on the 16th
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  of October and that has fantastic Chicago bands star
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  student and 10 month summer who spoiler alert is the next
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  episode. We talked to Nish, but it also
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  has a new album coming out tomorrow and an EP, an acoustic
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  EP, which I've also heard and which is also very good.
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  So check out Sweet bike, check out 10 Month summer and listen
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  to the episode. It's it's fantastic.
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  Also just want to plug Never Phase Network.
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  Of course, check out Never Phase Network.com.
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  You can read articles, you can read reviews such as the review
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  of the new Sweet Bike album. You can find new podcasts.
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  Listen to like the Dad podcast with Time podcast, Track Marks,
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  which is a brand new podcast by the Fangirls podcast, the Never
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  a Phase Network podcast, and that's all I got.
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  Enjoy the interview. It's kind of long, but you're
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  going to love it. All right, I am here with Chris
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  from Sweet Bike. Chris, how are you doing today?
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  Good. How about you, Phil?
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  I am really excited to talk to you, very excited to dive into
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  the topics that you sent me. So I always share the list of of
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  things that that people sent me. Your list is fantastic.
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  E-mail Music obviously Nirvana, the Band, the Show, Magic the
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  Gathering, comics, movies, D&D and then random pop culture
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  called Random pop culture stuff. Specifically, you called out
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  Puppy Monkey Baby from Mountain Dew.
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  Absolutely under underrated pop culture character that was maybe
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  ever created. I mean somewhat I would say
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  maybe a monstrosity, but I would also say a cultural icon.
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  I can say you know, both can be true.
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  When is puppy puppy monkey babies from 2016?
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  I was like, I've seen puppy monkey baby but it's been a long
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  time. Oh, yeah, it's it's in that it's
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  in that weird crux of time, you know, 2016, very weird time for
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  things, not even gonna lie. I mean, weird time all around,
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  but especially in pop culture and things they decided to do.
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  That was one of those things that I remember seeing when I
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  was younger and I was like, what am I seeing right now?
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  This is this is kind of awesome, but also I'd like so confused
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  like what does this have to do with Mountain Dew?
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  But I love it. So you listed that as like as
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  like a interest that you would geek out about.
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  Tell me more about puppy monkey baby.
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  Like is there a specific lore Is there like how does it relate to
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  to Chris? Well, you know, the thing about
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  puppy monkey baby that really kind of like struck struck a
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  chord with me was that like, First off, puppy monkey baby was
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  not in that many Mountain Dew commercials.
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  I'm talking like maybe like 3, maybe 2 tops.
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  And it was just like little appearances where the puppy
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  monkey baby would just like show up and then sort of like sort of
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  like moving around and dancing. And like, I don't even think the
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  puppy monkey could be baby talked or anything, but it like
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  literally it would just be like human people hanging out and
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  then puppy monkey baby shows up and then and then they're like,
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  yeah, get mad and do you should check it out.
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  It's so sick. And like, there was just
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  something about that to me that just really it it started
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  calling for me for a long time, but then it didn't really like
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  it. Actually, it laid dormant for a
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  hot minute up until, like, I want to say maybe it was 2023 or
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  2024 where Mountain Dew was starting to do some other
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  commercials with some weird stuff.
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  And they, I think they included, like, seal on a seal's body,
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  like a, like a, like a seal hybrid.
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  Yeah. And it got me thinking.
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  And it was like something that we talked about, like, on tour.
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  I was like, man, who do you think?
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  Who do you think would win in a fight?
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  Puppy, monkey, baby or or the seal Seal hybrid.
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  Who do you think would win and why?
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  I mean. You've obviously thought about
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  it. I'm I'm biased, I'm biased
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  because I love puppy monkey baby, but I would still pick
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  puppy monkey baby. That's that's really, that's
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  really what it comes down to. I, I was trying to, I was trying
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  to add some like gravity to that, but I no, it's, it's just,
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  it's just really, it's really what it comes down to is it's a,
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  it's a monkey that is, I mean, here's the thing has monkey
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  arms, but it has baby legs and, and the puppy head.
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  So what makes this really tough is that I do think that the seal
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  does have the strength to take down that puppy monkey baby.
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  But the problem is that it's the arms, it's the puppy bumpy,
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  bumpy baby arms. You know the the fact that it
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  can like it, it can like wrap around, wrap around, but I don't
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  know the second. But the only, the only
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  difference between seal like the seal seal is that it is a
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  complete seal. Otherwise having seals faced on
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  it. It's easy to Heidi Klum seal, I
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  would imagine. I would imagine, which also also
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  something about that company Mountain Dew really knows how to
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  make some like weird nightmare fuel for people.
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  I can't imagine. I can't imagine being like like
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  7 years old and seeing the commercial for seal like like
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  the seal with the fucking seal on the face.
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  Like I that would actually maybe haunt me for a little bit.
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  What I imagine is going on at the marketing department for
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  Mountain Dew is it's just a bunch of, like, late teenagers
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  drinking a disgusting amount of Mountain Dew and then waiting
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  around till like 3:00 in the morning and then writing the
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  commercial. Yeah.
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  Absolutely. It's it's, it's how it's, it's
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  how I feel about Taco Bell. I feel like they're willing the
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  same. I mean by.
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  The same marketing department, they're just drinking Baja blast
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  and Baja blasting out some commercials.
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  Wow, you know it's it's something else sometimes and the
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  funniest part about it is that like that puppy monkey baby
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  commercial came out in 2016. I was not like I wasn't that
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  young at that point. It was still just AI don't know.
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  It was just something impressible to me that I was
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  like what, but it just stuck to my brain.
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  I'd also. Be happy 10 year Happy 10 year
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  birthday to puppy Monkey Baby. I I hope they bring him back one
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  day. As puppy monkey young man now
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  yeah. Or dog monkey.
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  Yeah, puppy aged too. Maybe in this the.
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  Same. Yeah, I would imagine the puppy
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  part probably ages the same as as the baby part because I feel
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  like they're wanted the same, you know?
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  It's like, yeah, like was a puppy, was a baby.
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  They go hand to hand, right? Yeah, I think Mountain Dew
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  should probably pick that up and fill in some of the lore for the
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  10 for the 10 year anniversary of Puppy Monkey Baby now.
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  And start writing us checks. Right.
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  And start and start writing us checks right now.
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  Or just send us a bunch of Mountain Dew, that'd be fine
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  too. Yeah.
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  You know, honestly, I wouldn't mind that.
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  You know, there was one time we actually got like a, a
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  sponsorship where, well, we just like for, I would say maybe a
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  couple of months straight. We were just like drinking a lot
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  of poppy at the time when it just came out.
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  And I was just like, man, poppy, It would be so cool if you sent
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  over sweet bike the band, just a case of some poppy to fuel us
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  because let's, let's, let's face it, let's face it, we're great
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  for your brand. You're great for our brand.
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  We start getting branded. And ironically enough, they
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  actually did end up sending us a case.
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  We it didn't, it didn't do anything else other than just
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  give us some free poppy for a little bit.
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  And it did feel our band for it, but.
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  That's a win. But they had they had they had
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  bigger artists in mind now they they got like they got like
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  Charli XCX and stuff for poppy, like they're they they're fine.
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  They don't need sweet I'd. Say sweet bike is definitely the
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  win in that scenario. Let's.
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  Maybe not, maybe not like per capita followers, but you know,
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  cool factor. We thought about it before
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  Charlie did. Let's just say that, You know
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  what I mean? They, we, we, we threw it out
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  there. They.
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  Probably had to. They probably had to recruit
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  Charlie. You are a true fan and recruited
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  yourself. Right, exactly.
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  We're we were fueled by it. There you go.
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  All right, let's let's transition.
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  A smooth transition our way over to Nirvana the Band, the show.
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  I found out about Nirvana the band the show the way I would
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  assume a lot of people did when the movie Nirvana, the Band, the
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  Show, the Movie came out. But I know almost nothing about
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  it except that it is about a band called Nirvana the band.
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  So give me a give me and other listeners who may not know
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  anything about it, your rundown of of what the show is.
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  So this show is about two best friends that live in Toronto and
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  they have a band called Nirvana the band and they don't know
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  that Nirvana is a real band. They don't know they didn't know
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  they don't They have no clue that Nirvana even exists.
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  And what makes that so funny is that these two best friends have
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  such a best knowledge of like 90s and 2000's pop culture that
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  it's almost ridiculous to the fact that they don't that they
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  that they don't know that Nirvana's a real band.
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  And so their biggest like goal or like their biggest like
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  achievement, what they plan on wanting to do is they want to
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  play a venue in Toronto called the Rivoli.
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  And the Rivoli is a relatively, you know, mid size music venue
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  that has like it has food in the front and it has a stains in the
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  back. And definitely there's been some
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  notable acts that have played there, like, you know, like
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  Adele's played over there. Like there, there's definitely a
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  good amount of artists that have come through and played in that
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  spot. But The thing is that it's
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  almost a little ridiculous that they wanna like this is like
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  this is like their Madison Square Garden.
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  If they could play here, they're like, this is this is it.
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  We'll be. Famous for people who care about
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  this, it is a 230 cab venue. Yeah, no, it has a yeah, there's
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  a restaurant in the front and they even outside dining area,
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  you know, it's it, it, it's really funny because these two
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  friends, they they want to do, they want to try to do anything
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  they can to book a show at this place, but have no idea how to
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  book a show. Now, granted, that's totally
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  fine. I feel like most people, most
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  common people don't know how to book a show and that's totally
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  OK. But it's, it's the way that they
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  kind of go about it. It's almost like pinky and the
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  brain style where they're like where they're like we got to
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  come up with a new plan every time we we we got we we just
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  have to deal with this one plan and this this plan will get us
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  that show. And that can be anything from
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  putting a banner up across the street from it to, to like
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  trying to kidnap a kid to get a make a wish to, to trying to
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  build a holiday float to go across the street from the river
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  lead. And then the river lead will see
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  it. And then they'll be like, Oh my
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  God, But they have to get a show here.
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  We have to get them over here. And their mindset is almost like
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  they're almost like children in the way that they like, they
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  very much are just childlike in the way that they're just like,
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  there's no way that they would ever book us.
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  We have to do they, we have to do the craziest thing for, for
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  them to get their attention. And you kind of just see the
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  like the adventures of those two go through and like the push and
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  pull both of these characters have kind of also interacting
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  with real life people. Like so so for instance, you
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  know, they they play 2 characters of of themselves,
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  like characterized versions that would be out in public and
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  interact with real people in the sense where they don't
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  necessarily make people the butt of the joke or anything, but
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  it's really just how ridiculous they are in comparison to it, if
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  that makes sense. Like like, like, like kind of
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  like, you know, they'll go up to a person and they're just like,
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  hey, you know, they're like, oh, are you from around here?
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  And they're like, oh, no, I'm visiting from another state.
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  They're like, oh, that's great. We're about to climb up on top
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  of the CN Tower and jump off of it.
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  And then they'll just be like, what, you know what I mean?
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  And, and just the ridiculousness of that.
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  It sounds a little reminiscent to me of like Flight of the
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  Conchords. Like, like very like just two
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  guys playing themselves in a band and just putting themselves
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  in weird situations. Absolutely.
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  It it very much has that vibe it like, you know, it's, it's, it's
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  one of those shows that you can tell that it has it definitely
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  shares a lot of lineage with like things like fly the
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  Conchords or like or like. This is spinal tab, sort of,
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  yeah. Yeah, no, that's a really good
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  comparison. Or like What We Do in the
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  Shadows or like, you know, that kind of 'cause it's also shot
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  like in a documentary style. It it's like a crew of like
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  maybe six or eight people, including the two people who are
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  the main characters. Like the one thing that really
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  kind of drew me to that show, outside of like, it being just a
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  really hilarious show to watch, it kind of just reminded me a
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  lot of the aspect of DIY and like, the aspect of really just
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  like going out there and making your own stuff.
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  Because they're just like a small crew out in Toronto that
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  have been like, doing this since like, 2008.
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  Cool. And yeah.
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  And like, they had like a whole web series.
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  They made ATV show that was two seasons and then made this
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  movie. Where?
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  Where can one watch the TV show So?
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  It's actually all on Hulu and Disney plus now.
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  OK, not, not not the plug Hulu and Disney plus, but I'm also
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  I'm I'm big, I'm big, I'm big hype from my from my Bowie's,
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  Matt and Jay. They deserve they deserve the
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  the credit. They've been working really hard
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  at this and I don't even really know those dudes very well.
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  But like, honestly, from everything that I've like seen
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  about them or like interviews, they just seem like really
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  chilled down to earth people that like also want other people
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  to like try to go out and make their dreams in a way that's
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  even. Like, you know, they talk about
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  it more in the aspect of like filmmaking and doing scores and
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  stuff like that, which is definitely not my realm.
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  You know what I mean? That's, that's pretty outside of
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  my realm. But what I share, I think what,
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  what it shares a very similar DNA is that is that kind of love
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  for wanting to create something that's very uniquely yours and
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  being able to like do it in a way that you know, is on your
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  own terms, which is like, you know, I, I think some of the
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  most important part about like, you know, the DIY ethic of, of,
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  of creating things. And you know, it, it's, it's
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  been really cool to just get to see because like, for instance,
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  like I didn't really get into the show until about 20/17/2016.
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  That's, that's when the, the TV show came out and I got put onto
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  that show from a friend, from a really close friend of mine.
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  They showed me that show. They sat me down and they're
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  like they they had their laptop out.
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  They were sitting in their garage.
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  They were smoking their cigarette and and we were
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  sharing a bowl. They were just like, all right,
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  you gotta watch this show. It's the funniest thing that
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  I've ever seen. And I was like, OK, Matt, I'm
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  down and played the first episode hooked me in, hooked me
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  in immediately just because outside of it being hilarious
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  and then just working hard at it, it's an it's ridiculously
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  clever. It's like, it's like they do a
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  lot of things where they'll make a lot of references to a lot of
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  pop culture things or movies. Like for instance, for anyone
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  interested in the first episode, I won't ruin too much about it
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  for y'all, but I will tell you that you know one of the things
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  in that episode is. They talk about in the episode
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  getting a collection of videotapes and one of those
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  tapes is Jurassic Park and they end up watching Jurassic Park
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  and they they show in the episode them watching Jurassic
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  Park talking about Jurassic Park.
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  And it actually becomes like a pivotal part to the story
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  because like it's, it's like they do little things throughout
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  the episode that just make reference to it in little ways
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  that you don't expect. Like, for instance, there's
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  something really subtle in one of the scenes where like a
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  couple scenes back, they're watching the movie and you see
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  the scene of the of the doctor professor guy looking back at
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  Jurassic Park and he's all like stunned and, and you see Sam
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  Neil, like right behind him to like get get behind him and get
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  him to the like, you know, helicopter, you know what I
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  mean? Yeah, at the very end of the
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  movie, Jeff Goldblum and yeah. They they show you that scene
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  for a second in the TV show and then they do a shot for shot in
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  it in the episode. I love.
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  Later on in the episode, in a way that I was like, that's so
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  fucking funny. Like I in a way that I, I like,
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  I didn't even notice it the first time.
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  It took me a couple watches for me to be like, wait, they're
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  just, they're just literally doing that scene shot for shot.
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  I love, I love those kind of like throwbacks to especially
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  when they're very like subtle and not like overly in your face
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  about it. I I think that's fantastic.
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  Oh, honestly, it's, it's one of those shows this last like
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  things I could talk about probably for hours.
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  Also, because I do really love that that creator, that
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  director's like filmography too. Matt Matt Johnson.
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  He he's, he's one of the characters in that episode and,
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  and, or in the episodes and also like, you know, directs it,
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  directed the movie, directed some other things too that led
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  up before that. And, you know, just has a really
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  great creative mind in a way that I just have a lot of
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  respect for. I'm like, Dang.
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  And like, literally they just put out a movie recently.
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  It was the Anthea Bourdain biopic You Know Tony, which I
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  just saw recently. Wait, I'm sorry, I was thinking
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  Nirvana, the band, the the show, the movie.
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  There was another movie by Matt, is what you're saying?
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  That he just put out recently. And what was that one?
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  It's called Tony. It's the Anthony Bourdain
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  biopic. OK, yeah, I've heard of that.
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  Yeah, yeah, he. Like did it with day 24 like
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  literally has like Antonio Banderas in it and like and and
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  and and Stabi and like it it Oxley.
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  I watched the movie recently, it was great.
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  Yeah, I haven't. I haven't seen that one yet.
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  Is that stolen Peterson? I'm going to have to watch that.
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  That looks really good. Yeah, no, it's, it's it's worth
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  checking out. Plus especially it's because
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  it's like it's really targeting and like looking more into like
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  younger Bourdain life, which I kind of really like a little bit
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  more because to be honest, we all really we know the mythos of
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  Andy Bourdain, the person like they, you know, they were a
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  pretty public figure throughout life.
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  And I think I think the only great way to be able to capture
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  a person's even like slight biopic in that sense is to
• 23:53
  actually focus it on something that honestly not too many
• 23:56
  people know about. And that's a lot of like
• 23:58
  beginnings type things. Him as a like kid.
• 24:01
  Yeah, the synopsis that that comes up when you Google it's,
• 24:05
  it's 19 year old Anthony Bourdain stumbles into the
• 24:07
  chaotic world of a restaurant kitchen.
• 24:11
  So that sounds great. Yeah.
• 24:13
  Yeah, no, it's, it's it's worth the watch.
• 24:16
  I I saw it in theaters. I think it's still in theaters.
• 24:18
  It's about, I think it, yeah, it looks like it just came out
• 24:20
  earlier this month. So I would imagine that it is
• 24:23
  either still in theaters or not widely available yet just yet.
• 24:28
  But definitely, definitely worth the watch.
• 24:29
  Yeah, but outside of that too, just like filmography great.
• 24:34
  Did you watch the family show? Great and the movie just as
• 24:38
  great dude. Also one thing about the movie,
• 24:41
  you can watch the movie without watching the show.
• 24:45
  Yeah, I almost went, I, when it was in theaters, I, I was like
• 24:50
  looking for something to do and I was like, I this band, this
• 24:52
  show is called, or this movie is called Nirvana, the band, the
• 24:56
  show, the movie. And then that is like right up
• 24:59
  my alley when it comes to humor, that sort of sort of thing.
• 25:03
  So I did not get out to see it, but that's OK because now I can
• 25:07
  watch the whole show and then the movie.
• 25:09
  Yeah, yeah, it's all up on streaming now.
• 25:11
  Anyone can watch it, which is a beautiful thing because not
• 25:14
  going to lie, for like the last 10 years I've been using like a
• 25:18
  Google Drive to share the show with people.
• 25:21
  I'm like, oh, check out, check out the show.
• 25:22
  I got a Google Drive of it and they're like OK or, or, or like,
• 25:29
  or like some people will actually use it and, and it'd be
• 25:31
  chill. But it was like, I felt so dorky
• 25:34
  because like, you know, people would ask me when I talk about
• 25:36
  they're like, where can I stream it at?
• 25:38
  And I'm just like, you know, you could like you could like buy,
• 25:43
  you could like buy the first season everywhere kind of.
• 25:46
  But the second season isn't available anywhere.
• 25:49
  So you got to use a Google Drive.
• 25:56
  Well, normally I'm a big advocate for pirating things,
• 25:59
  but not this. Not in this case.
• 26:01
  Go support Matt and Jay, That's the other one.
• 26:04
  Absolutely, Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, go support them.
• 26:06
  I mean, back back in the day, it was a little bit more acceptable
• 26:09
  because it was, it was just harder to get things out and
• 26:12
  honestly. Sure, sure, sure, sure.
• 26:14
  They were pretty supportive of it, which was nice.
• 26:16
  But you know, once once everything kind of started
• 26:18
  coming to fruition and like, you know, everything's kind of going
• 26:23
  down to how it is now. I actually, I love supporting
• 26:27
  them a million times over. I like literally great people to
• 26:32
  support. So do you think that they will
• 26:35
  show up when Sweet Bike the band books the Rivoli?
• 26:41
  You know, I hope so because they they do, they do work across the
• 26:45
  street. From it.
• 26:46
  Do they really? They really do.
• 26:48
  That's that's another really funny goofy fact is like they're
• 26:52
  building is the building that's right across the street from the
• 26:56
  Rivoli. They work out of that building
• 26:58
  to left either editing all that stuff.
• 27:03
  Fantastic. Yeah, we'll just put that out
• 27:06
  into the universe. You know, Matt and Jay wince we
• 27:09
  bike books the Rivoli very in the very near future.
• 27:13
  Come on out. Right.
• 27:15
  We got to, we got to, we got to create a plan 1st to get there.
• 27:18
  It's a It's presents its play. It's not.
• 27:20
  It's not an easy to book I've I've heard so.
• 27:23
  You know, who knows? Maybe we'll try Flyers.
• 27:26
  We'll try Flyers first. Yeah, a banner perhaps.
• 27:33
  So another thing that you listed was just movies in general.
• 27:36
  And you, you specifically said comfort movies and I am curious
• 27:40
  about comfort movies. What is your, what is your
• 27:44
  definition of comfort movie? And then give us an example of
• 27:47
  some of your comfort movies. So what I would say like a good
• 27:51
  definition, in my opinion of a good comfort movie is a movie
• 27:56
  that like is a movie that you can put on at any point in time
• 28:02
  and it'll instantly transport you into a better mood because
• 28:05
  because of watching it. Like something like you could
• 28:08
  you could put on that movie. You could be having the worst
• 28:11
  day of your life, but you'd be putting you, you'd be putting on
• 28:13
  a movie on. And you're like, yeah, I like
• 28:16
  that. Yeah, that's you know what I'm
• 28:18
  like, you know what? Maybe everything is kind of OK
• 28:20
  for a second. The world's burning, you know,
• 28:24
  we've gas prices are insane, can't afford groceries.
• 28:29
  But this movie, yeah. Like if I if like if I found out
• 28:34
  that, like if I found out that there was like an asteroid
• 28:37
  coming to Earth and like there's nothing we could do, Like it's,
• 28:41
  it's just coming. Like, you know, we got like so
• 28:44
  and so many hours. I would at least plan some hours
• 28:48
  to dedicated to like my top three favorite comfort movies
• 28:51
  because I know that I would want to at least see those all three
• 28:55
  before I bowed. So what are your what are your
• 28:58
  top three? In in no particular order, my my
• 29:05
  top three are it's The Big Lebowski.
• 29:11
  Great movie. I I do really love that movie.
• 29:14
  I know some people will say, oh, man, but like, you know what
• 29:19
  about what happens at the end of the movie?
• 29:21
  And if I, you know, I'm not going to spoil the movie,
• 29:23
  everybody. It's been, it's been.
• 29:25
  I think it's been 30 years. It's it's past spoiling.
• 29:29
  Hi everybody, Toddy dies and I and I, I'm sorry.
• 29:32
  I'm sorry if you've never seen this movie and I'm breaking it
• 29:35
  to you now. I guess I might become your
• 29:38
  mortal enemy from this, but that's fine.
• 29:40
  I'll. Put up a I'll put up a spoiler
• 29:42
  alert right before, right before that place and people can tune
• 29:46
  away, no. No, no, I think that's perfect.
• 29:48
  I think that's perfect. I, you know, I mean, some people
• 29:55
  would be like, oh, man, but like Donnie dies at the end.
• 29:58
  And I'm like, you know, that is sad.
• 30:01
  But I will say it's kind of poetic.
• 30:04
  It's almost a poetic story in a way.
• 30:06
  I look at it. I'm like, yeah, no, I mean, even
• 30:09
  like, you hear, like the narrator being like, you know,
• 30:13
  no one wanted Donnie to die. Like no one wanted like Donnie
• 30:15
  to be passed. But like, you know, that's how
• 30:18
  things go sometimes. You can't, you can't blame those
• 30:20
  things. And made it almost like
• 30:22
  tragically, tragically beautiful in a way.
• 30:26
  So that one's a come for movie. What's What's another one of
• 30:30
  your 3? OK, so another one of the three
• 30:33
  comfort movies for me is absolutely it's gotta be Walk
• 30:41
  Hard, a Doobie Cox story. OK.
• 30:45
  That movie, man. I'll be honest, I don't think
• 30:49
  I've ever seen that movie. Phil, you gotta watch it.
• 30:52
  I'm telling you, Phil. I do love that like genre of
• 30:58
  like, fake biopics that especially John C Reilly, yeah.
• 31:08
  No, it's it's honestly cinematic masterpiece, that movie.
• 31:15
  That movie to me is like, you know how everyone really loves
• 31:23
  like Mel Brooks and like Mel Brooks's style of movies?
• 31:27
  Sure. To me, this movie felt like an
• 31:29
  homage to that in ways, while on top of making fun of biopics,
• 31:35
  right? And there's just something about
• 31:39
  that to me that it just made me lose it.
• 31:43
  Plus it's one of those movies that I could put on that movie
• 31:47
  and I would be laughing all the way through.
• 31:49
  If there's no, there's no point where I'm like, oh, I'm like,
• 31:54
  you know, I'm I'm waiting for the laugh to happen.
• 31:57
  No, no, no, they're, they're kicking right off.
• 31:59
  Like they, they start right from the get go.
• 32:03
  Like they show you, they show you Dewey and his brother and
• 32:07
  they show you how good his brother is and how like
• 32:09
  ridiculously talented he is and his paws just like, all right,
• 32:13
  you know, y'all could go go out and have fun today and he's
• 32:17
  like, all right, well, nothing bad is going to happen to me
• 32:19
  today. And then literally him and Dewey
• 32:21
  just start doing the craziest shit.
• 32:24
  Like they like, they're like riding, they're like riding
• 32:27
  tractors into each other trying to play like chicken.
• 32:31
  They're like, they're like playing with machetes.
• 32:34
  They're like, they're like using a blowtorch to like make
• 32:38
  classmates things. It's just like just it's it just
• 32:43
  felt like that kind of classic ridiculous style of like these
• 32:48
  are we just said all this wasn't going to happen.
• 32:50
  Here's all of the most ridiculous things on earth.
• 32:54
  Here you go and like it. It just doesn't stop from there.
• 32:58
  It just keeps going. That and the cast.
• 33:01
  Impeccable. That's to say the Jenna Fischer
• 33:05
  is his his, it says loyal backup singer.
• 33:09
  I imagine his love interest too, probably.
• 33:12
  Yes, yes, also second wife in the.
• 33:15
  Second wife, just like walk the line, right?
• 33:20
  There's definitely some parallels to that movie in it,
• 33:22
  but it's like it's like a weird almost parallel of that mixed
• 33:28
  with just the most ridiculous things.
• 33:32
  Like, for instance, they do some things where like they show a
• 33:35
  younger Dewey Cox where he's like about to be like a kid in a
• 33:42
  in a band with like his first band for the first time playing
• 33:45
  at a high school thing. And it's like all the bandmates
• 33:48
  are kids except for John C Reilly, who is just John C
• 33:52
  Reilly dressed up as like a child.
• 33:55
  And he's like, it's me, Dewey Cox, 15 year old boy.
• 34:00
  And they just, they do so much shit like that where I'm just
• 34:03
  like, I, I lose it. Like there's something about it
• 34:06
  to me that I'm like. Yeah, it's a Judd Apatow
• 34:11
  screenplay, it looks like, which is generally pretty good.
• 34:17
  Rare misses. Yeah, no.
• 34:20
  And also one of those rare moments where the movie perfect
• 34:25
  amount of time doesn't feel like it's too long.
• 34:30
  Just just just just got a problem with that sometimes.
• 34:33
  Right. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
• 34:36
  So that's two. What's your third comfort movie?
• 34:40
  1/3 comfort movie for me goes way back and it's because I kind
• 34:47
  of grew up watching this movie and I grew up watching this
• 34:50
  movie with like my dad, my sister, like we, we, we like
• 34:56
  rented it one day and it was the most ridiculous thing I ever
• 34:59
  saw. And it's called Kung Pao.
• 35:02
  Enter the 1st. That's a great movie.
• 35:06
  Kung Pao enter the 1st That movie to me is it's so it is so
• 35:14
  stupid. It is, it is.
• 35:17
  It is undeniably a dumb movie. Like there's, there's there's no
• 35:23
  like, you know how like the other two movies I listed, I'm
• 35:26
  like, those are comfort movies and those are legitimately both
• 35:29
  really good movies. This movie I would not say is a
• 35:34
  good movie, but I would say it brings much comfort to me in the
• 35:38
  sense that I'm like, I love how ridiculous this is.
• 35:42
  Right, I say it's a good movie, but I haven't watched it in over
• 35:45
  20 years. Oh yeah, I may feel different
• 35:48
  about it. Not in my life.
• 35:50
  I mean like honestly, the only part in that movie that ever
• 35:53
  that doesn't that doesn't aids up well is the scene with the is
• 35:59
  the scene with the CGI cow. Yeah, they try the bottom.
• 36:04
  When I when you Google it, that's like the the big
• 36:06
  screenshot. Is this the cow?
• 36:09
  Absolutely. It was like, I remember, I don't
• 36:12
  remember when they were promoting that movie, but I have
• 36:14
  a feeling that when they were trying to promote that movie,
• 36:16
  that was probably one of the big things they used.
• 36:18
  They were like, whoa, you remember that seed here, this
• 36:22
  crazy seed where this cow and they're doing Matrix moves.
• 36:24
  Do you remember the Matrix? That was pretty relevant for the
• 36:27
  time. That was crazy, right?
• 36:30
  And yeah, that was the only scene in the movie for me that I
• 36:34
  was like, OK, you know, it's OK It's just obviously a period of
• 36:37
  its time. It wasn't like it was anything
• 36:39
  offensive. It was just one of those things
• 36:41
  that I was like, yeah. Well, good to know that if if
• 36:47
  the world is ending, Chris from Sweet Bikes is going to set it
• 36:51
  aside at least six hours to watch Kung Pao enter the first
• 36:56
  Walk Hard and, Oh my gosh, the third one, The Big Lebowski.
• 37:02
  Most important, The Big Lebowski.
• 37:05
  Oh I'm absolutely. I'm dedicating those six hours,
• 37:08
  6 plus hours to watch the movies.
• 37:11
  You give very the dude vibes if and I mean that as a compliment
• 37:17
  for. Sure, but you.
• 37:18
  But I appreciate it. Seriously.
• 37:21
  I mean like it. It's one of those things that,
• 37:24
  you know, I, I, I will say that is one of the things about the
• 37:28
  dude that I really did like is just, even though the dude was a
• 37:33
  pretty self-centered person and kind of like kind of an asshole
• 37:37
  at times, at the end of the day, he just wanted everyone to just
• 37:41
  do their thing and be happy. And I, for me, I was like, you
• 37:45
  know, there's something I can relate to more than that.
• 37:47
  You know, I'm like, I just want people to do their thing and be
• 37:49
  happy. That's how I feel.
• 37:51
  I mean, that's kind of like that's kind of like almost the
• 37:54
  driving force behind this, this podcast as it has like evolved
• 38:00
  into really just being about like whatever people want to
• 38:03
  talk about. It's like, hey, you make really
• 38:05
  good music, but also like what kind of video games do you play?
• 38:09
  Like what are the things that make you happy?
• 38:11
  You know, like, I may not be super into the WNBA, but like, I
• 38:17
  think it's super cool that you are and I'd love to hear you
• 38:19
  talk about it. No, honestly, that was kind of
• 38:22
  what really drew me to the podcast.
• 38:24
  To be honest, though, it was like one of those things for me
• 38:27
  that, you know, when I saw you talking to some other people
• 38:29
  about like some of their interests, I mean, to me, I, I
• 38:34
  thought that was a great, like, I mean, I'm not even just trying
• 38:37
  to gas you up right now. I I personally I'm like, I feel
• 38:39
  gassed. It's in a good way.
• 38:42
  It's a. It's a great concept because
• 38:43
  like, you know, at the end of the day, like, yeah, I, I mean,
• 38:48
  like you said, like a lot of these people like make great
• 38:50
  music and are doing really awesome things.
• 38:53
  But like, it's kind of really great and really nice to see how
• 38:57
  down to earth people can be about just the things that they
• 38:59
  really love. Yeah, yeah, I love it.
• 39:02
  I think it's I, I love listening to people talk about this stuff.
• 39:05
  Like like you, I, I could just talk about some show that I've
• 39:10
  never watched, but like, hearing you talk about it is just a lot
• 39:14
  of fun. I appreciate that.
• 39:17
  So let's, let's do another smooth transition.
• 39:22
  Let's see, Magic the Gathering is one of the things that you
• 39:24
  listed. And I have not had someone on to
• 39:26
  talk about Magic the Gathering yet, at least not at least not
• 39:29
  in depth. But I would love to hear your
• 39:32
  Magic the gathering story. Like when?
• 39:34
  When did you enter the Magic gathering?
• 39:38
  Like bad habit slash addiction. So I'll paint, I'll paint a
• 39:44
  scene for you. The year year was the year was
• 39:48
  2007. And I, I got into Magic the
• 39:53
  Gathering like I imagine most people do in the way that you,
• 39:58
  you have some friends that start getting interested or you have
• 40:01
  some friends that you know, that start playing around you and
• 40:04
  you're like, oh, that's cool. This is a cool, it's a cool kind
• 40:07
  of concept. And then they start talking
• 40:09
  about it and they're like, we, you could build a zombie deck.
• 40:12
  You could build a deck that's just grasshoppers.
• 40:14
  You could build a deck that's that's like all.
• 40:17
  Squirrels. All squirrels.
• 40:19
  This deck just gets rid of everybody's cards.
• 40:22
  It pisses everybody off. You can you can do that if you
• 40:24
  want to. And I'm like, I'm like, whoa,
• 40:27
  that's so sick. So I mean, at the time I didn't
• 40:31
  have the words to intellectualize and like,
• 40:33
  intellectualize it like, you know what that kind of game is.
• 40:37
  But the best way I could ever describe that game to people is
• 40:41
  that to me, it's just customizable chess.
• 40:44
  Yeah, you know, you know what I mean?
• 40:45
  It's like, I mean, like, granted, you know, it's a game
• 40:50
  where you're versusing another person, but like ultimately you
• 40:54
  just have like a set amount of life, you have a set amount of
• 40:57
  cards. And you know, it's when when you
• 41:02
  dive into it more, it's, it becomes a little bit more
• 41:05
  complex because there is a lot more rules that have been put in
• 41:07
  over time. But like, right, overall, it was
• 41:11
  one of those things for me that just really hooked me in.
• 41:14
  I think one of the first things I built was I I made a bear deck
• 41:18
  that was a deck ball bears. It was a green bear deck.
• 41:22
  It like, you know, it didn't have anything that crazy in it.
• 41:24
  It just had like and granted for any of those MTG heads out
• 41:29
  there, I was playing, I was playing standard, which at the
• 41:34
  time for me, that's just kind of all I knew.
• 41:38
  What's standard for anyone else who doesn't there?
• 41:41
  Is a good entry point, right? It's limited the amount of cards
• 41:46
  that you have to have to be somewhat competitive.
• 41:49
  Like you don't have to go out and go back to the beginning of
• 41:53
  time to find cards that are that are good.
• 41:56
  Yeah, I think, I think it's standard is probably most
• 41:59
  people's entry point. That or commander.
• 42:02
  I think commander's also the the other like entry point that a
• 42:05
  lot of people pull into. No, that's definitely something
• 42:09
  I've seen kind of a shift. So like, I know for me when I
• 42:13
  was like getting started with that, like we started doing, we
• 42:16
  started doing standard and like our person of standard was just
• 42:19
  like a casual standard in the sense where it was like, it was
• 42:23
  like, we followed pretty much most of the rules of standard
• 42:26
  other than like the rules of like some cards like from the
• 42:31
  past are not allowed. Or like I'm just like, I'm just
• 42:34
  like, who cares? I'm not, I, I, I'm not, I'm not
• 42:38
  here in a tournament. I'm not, if we do a tournament,
• 42:41
  it's going to be a tournament. Our friends like I don't like
• 42:44
  for me, I was, I just wasn't about that, you know what I
• 42:47
  mean? And I and I get it, but I was
• 42:49
  just one of those people who was just like, get whatever cards
• 42:52
  you have access to. We'll just, we'll just make
• 42:53
  decks. We'll play, you know, and, and
• 42:58
  you know, so we never really, we never really put ourselves in a
• 43:01
  more professional setting or like trying to do anything more
• 43:06
  more intense like that. But I will say there was a point
• 43:11
  that I actually, I dropped off for a bit.
• 43:13
  I, I dropped off a playing around like I want to say 2017.
• 43:25
  And it was mostly just because I I ended up losing most of my
• 43:28
  cards in a move with Oh yeah. That'll.
• 43:31
  Do it. And it's I was just like, OK, it
• 43:33
  looks like I might just not play for a bit, you know, who knows?
• 43:38
  And it actually wasn't until like I want to say 2023, where
• 43:46
  my one of my friends, Simon Small, like he, like they got me
• 43:49
  back into playing Magic again like we were.
• 43:53
  Simon. Yeah, he, we were, we were
• 43:55
  recording with them and they like, they, they like told me
• 43:59
  about some of the decks they were working on.
• 44:00
  And I was like, wait, wait, people, people play Matt's The
• 44:04
  Gathering out here in Chicago. For some reason, for some reason
• 44:09
  that just blew my mind. Like, I don't know, like there's
• 44:11
  something in my brain that just told me.
• 44:12
  I was like, I don't know, maybe people just started to that game
• 44:16
  anymore. And that was a solid figment of
• 44:18
  my Matt Mason, because literally I came back and he's like, yeah,
• 44:22
  I'm, I'm playing commander and I'm like, oh shit, what's that?
• 44:26
  And then like, I'm like, you know, I, I, but I got, I got the
• 44:31
  edge. I ended up going to Facebook
• 44:32
  Marketplace. You know, I, you know, sat out
• 44:36
  Facebook marketplace. It's a.
• 44:38
  Facebook Marketplace. Sometimes.
• 44:40
  Suck if you want to give us a little kickback.
• 44:43
  Trying to get those Zuck bucks. Trying to.
• 44:46
  Get those Zuck bucks. I like that.
• 44:50
  I, I like, you know, I, I, I, I went to Facebook Marketplace.
• 44:57
  There's someone who was like selling like a box of like a
• 45:00
  whole bunch of cards for like 25 bucks and I was like banger,
• 45:05
  I'm, I'm, I'm there. I, I showed up.
• 45:09
  He like he gave me the box of cards and then also threw in
• 45:12
  like some sort of really special like, Oh my God.
• 45:16
  I forgot what kind of, it was like some sort of like
• 45:19
  anniversary card that was from like the Magic the Gathering con
• 45:23
  type situation. I had like a little, I had like
• 45:25
  a little pin. It looked really expensive.
• 45:27
  But he was like, this is a gift for you.
• 45:28
  And I was like, I really appreciate that man.
• 45:32
  But yeah, I from there I started like rebuilding again.
• 45:36
  And I actually, I reached out to a friend pretty recently because
• 45:41
  I he was just, he was just wild from talking.
• 45:44
  And they let me know that actually they had one of my
• 45:47
  decks from a long time ago and cool.
• 45:50
  And so I was able to get my bare deck back and.
• 45:53
  The original, the bare deck. Oh wow.
• 45:57
  Yep, the same bare deck from 2007.
• 45:59
  I was able to get that and acquire that back.
• 46:02
  Which was? I was looking at sets that came
• 46:05
  out in 2007. So were you like, was it like
• 46:08
  10th edition? Is that is that when you like
• 46:10
  started getting in or do you remember even?
• 46:13
  I, I, I think it was either 10th edition or it was, Oh my God.
• 46:21
  I also know, I'm, I'm trying to remember some of the other
• 46:23
  blocks around that time. I know.
• 46:24
  They had Planer. Planer Chaos came out in the
• 46:28
  beginning of that year. Future Site came out that year.
• 46:35
  They weren't doing as. They weren't doing as many sets
• 46:38
  a year as they do now, no. No, absolutely.
• 46:41
  They're doing they, I mean, like they're, they're in such crazier
• 46:44
  territories now. They're like, they're like,
• 46:46
  when's the SpongeBob set coming out?
• 46:49
  When's when's, when's the when's the Disney princesses set coming
• 46:53
  out? I swear Aspero.
• 46:54
  Really has like gotten. It has turned the game into very
• 47:00
  much like Fortnite, the card game.
• 47:03
  Yeah, yeah. And it's not, don't get me
• 47:05
  wrong, it hasn't necessarily turned me off of magic.
• 47:08
  And I know actually, ironically enough, I've seen that it's
• 47:11
  actually gotten some more people into it which like to be real,
• 47:15
  you know, granted, as much as I'm not as much into the whole
• 47:19
  IP of it all, I I also do like that it does bring newer people
• 47:25
  into magic and wanting to get into it.
• 47:27
  That that for. Me, yeah.
• 47:29
  Like I I it's I know there are some people who really hate the
• 47:33
  whole like universe beyond of it all, but I'm like, OK, but where
• 47:38
  else am I going to be able to play Bilbo and then also play
• 47:42
  Spider Man into my combo with ING the avatar and Steph Roth?
• 47:50
  Right, Like I mean, I'm not going to lie, like literally I
• 47:53
  got AI got a an avatar last I've been to a booster for a friend
• 48:00
  about that bad boy. I ended up getting APO and I was
• 48:05
  I was I was slutted. I was like, you know what, this
• 48:09
  is badass, This is badass. I don't care.
• 48:12
  Whatever. You know, it's it's like I'm
• 48:16
  also on the same boat of like, you know, I I'm on the boat of
• 48:21
  embrace the crowns. Maybe embrace, embrace the
• 48:24
  crowns. I.
• 48:25
  Want I want my Magic the Gathering with pizza and all
• 48:29
  four Ninja Turtles. What I'm talking about, that's
• 48:32
  what I'm talking about. And I want to use the one ring
• 48:34
  with them. And and also we're we're going
• 48:38
  to have April O'Neil show up and she's going to be kicking some
• 48:40
  ass and, and and we, we got one of the, we got one of the guys
• 48:45
  from Fallout, he'll be showing the armored guy.
• 48:47
  He's going to be showing up. Yeah.
• 48:49
  And then and then you're going to be.
• 48:51
  The like the Warhammer. Warhammer sets the Doctor Who
• 48:54
  stuff. It's a whole other world now.
• 48:58
  It's and I I kind of I love that, you know, as as someone
• 49:02
  who also just loves the nerd out about like it kind of also feeds
• 49:06
  into that whole pop culture. You know, that that cool idea of
• 49:09
  like other things. If they made if they made a
• 49:11
  Nirvana, the band, the show match card, I would buy that
• 49:16
  shit right now. Never know, they come out with
• 49:18
  some crazy stuff, especially on the the what is it the the
• 49:22
  secret, secret or hidden layer? The secret layer?
• 49:27
  Secret layer Yeah, yeah, I, I was I'm I'm a big Final Fantasy
• 49:32
  fan, as anyone who's listened to any of the other episodes of the
• 49:35
  show will will already know, but I loved the Final Fantasy set
• 49:39
  like I I yeah that that was the last time I bought paper cards.
• 49:44
  I'm pretty sure was was for that set and I and I really like I
• 49:47
  don't, I don't dive too deep except for sets that I'm like
• 49:54
  really interested in. I play.
• 49:55
  I like the animal one that came out.
• 49:57
  I can't remember what it what it's what.
• 49:58
  It's called I did it. Did it start with an MI forget?
• 50:04
  I'm like blinking so hard. Oh yeah, I'm blinking too.
• 50:11
  I think I remember seeing this though I really like.
• 50:13
  Bloomberg is is what it was. Bloomberg.
• 50:16
  I was really interested in that in that set too.
• 50:18
  It was just a really cool. I mean I it's just like dungeons
• 50:23
  and Dragons care classes assigned to animals like a
• 50:27
  raccoon Bard that is a necromancer love.
• 50:30
  Love see, it's like it's like stuff like that that really, you
• 50:34
  know like I said, still really drops me into it all like, you
• 50:38
  know even. The war is also so cool, and
• 50:41
  that's something I haven't talked to anybody about on this
• 50:43
  show, but like the lore of like the lore of magic be except
• 50:46
  beyond the universe is beyond of it all.
• 50:49
  It's like, really neat. Like, no.
• 50:52
  It absolutely is, yeah. And, and ironically enough that
• 50:57
  we speak about the lore and and all of that because they tie
• 51:01
  everything back to Nevada band. The show Matt Johnson is
• 51:06
  actually making is going to be making a Matt to the Gathering
• 51:09
  movie. Really.
• 51:11
  Yes, really. That's really cool.
• 51:12
  Which is kind of crazy to think about 'cause I'm like, you know,
• 51:16
  it makes me wonder. I'm like, how you even gonna?
• 51:19
  How are you even going to go down that route?
• 51:20
  There's like, I mean, I mean, granted it could do really
• 51:25
  badly, who knows? But also it's got a giant fan
• 51:30
  base. So I don't know if they'd be
• 51:31
  wanting to let that fan base down that hard.
• 51:34
  I mean, I I find that even movies that do let the fan base
• 51:40
  down are typically like for me, I think they're they're decent.
• 51:44
  Like I will here's my super hot take.
• 51:48
  Like I didn't think the World of Warcraft movie was that bad.
• 51:51
  Oh, you know, here's the thing. I never saw the World of
• 51:54
  Warcraft movie. I'm.
• 51:56
  Not going to go watch it for fun now probably, but like I've I've
• 52:00
  watched it since it came out and I've I I didn't think it was
• 52:03
  that bad you. Know that's my, that's how I
• 52:06
  feel about Pacific, That's how I feel about Pacific Rim.
• 52:09
  Actually think Pacific Rim is like an underrated movie.
• 52:12
  Kind of. Rules.
• 52:13
  It's kind of really good. I mean like, don't get me wrong,
• 52:17
  it's not the best movie ever written.
• 52:19
  It is not even it's not even I wouldn't I wouldn't even say
• 52:24
  it's close to like I, I don't, I don't know what its Rotten
• 52:29
  Tomatoes score is or like IMDb score right so. 72 on Rotten
• 52:33
  Tomatoes Hey. So not.
• 52:35
  Not bad. Actually, OK, the people, the
• 52:38
  people though, the people. The that's the thing.
• 52:42
  That's the thing, the people just wanted big monsters versus
• 52:45
  robots. That's all we wanted.
• 52:47
  And it's and it's Guillermo del Guillermo del Toro.
• 52:50
  Yeah. I mean, yeah, Charlie Day is in
• 52:54
  that movie, Yeah. I, I, I there's some other Idris
• 52:59
  Elba is in that movie. Idris Elba, Ron Perlman, Oh.
• 53:03
  Yeah, honestly pretty stack cast when you think about it.
• 53:06
  Yeah, and giant robots fighting monsters, I mean.
• 53:09
  Who doesn't love to win, right? Everyone loves it.
• 53:12
  It's. Just fun.
• 53:13
  If you say you don't love it, you're lying to yourself.
• 53:16
  Come on, let's be honest, yeah. Because you grow up.
• 53:20
  Except you love a Pacific Rim that you don't know that you
• 53:23
  have. It's, it's just like, it's just
• 53:27
  like, come on, y'all. We're, we're, we're at a point
• 53:29
  in time where sometimes you just want to watch a movie and you
• 53:33
  don't, you don't want to have to like, think about the giant plot
• 53:37
  of, you know, how the, how the robots are made and where the,
• 53:41
  where the aliens are coming from and all that.
• 53:43
  Sometimes you just want to watch them beat the shit out of each
• 53:46
  other and you're like, that's right.
• 53:48
  Yeah, actually this is what it's all about sometimes.
• 53:52
  I've been thinking about my comfort movie and we can get
• 53:54
  back to magic in a minute because I do have some more
• 53:56
  magic related. Questions.
• 53:57
  But I've been thinking about comfort movies.
• 53:59
  I would love to hear them, seriously.
• 54:01
  The the the one that really like tops the list and pops into my
• 54:05
  mind is Scott Pilgrim versus the World.
• 54:09
  I love it. One of my favorite movies.
• 54:12
  I saw that movie at midnight with like three other people.
• 54:16
  I bought the I bought the comic books as they came out like just
• 54:23
  great. I'm a big Scott Pilgrim fan.
• 54:26
  I can watch that movie anytime and I don't, you know, there
• 54:31
  have been other times in my life where there were other movies.
• 54:33
  I actually talked about The Life Aquatic with Steve Zisu with a
• 54:38
  with Turn 2 earlier in the podcast.
• 54:41
  I watched that movie like every day when it first came out.
• 54:44
  I loved that movie and I haven't seen it in years, but it was
• 54:48
  definitely, at that time in my life, was definitely a comfort
• 54:52
  movie for me. I I don't blame you.
• 54:55
  That movie, that movie in particular, I, I rewatched that
• 54:59
  movie recently. Also a movie I really love.
• 55:02
  It's it's, it's a beautiful movie, but also really
• 55:06
  hilarious. But what gets me every time is
• 55:09
  the ending of that movie. That shit makes me cry every
• 55:13
  single time. Every single.
• 55:15
  Another one where someone dies that shouldn't.
• 55:18
  Right, right. But it's like it doesn't take,
• 55:22
  it doesn't make the story worse. It just, and in fact, actually
• 55:25
  makes the story better in a way that like, you know, you really
• 55:28
  just see how these characters process that, that, that, that
• 55:33
  grief and how they process, you know, going on this expedition
• 55:38
  along with all these other things going on.
• 55:43
  Right. Could just so just so crazy.
• 55:47
  I forgot about, I forgot about the end of that movie until you
• 55:51
  brought it up just now. And I'm like, oh man, that's
• 55:53
  right. Yeah, you know, I'm, I'm not
• 55:57
  going to, I'm not going to give any more spoilers in this in
• 56:00
  this interview, just to just to avoid.
• 56:03
  Back to to to like a close up shot of me saying spoiler alert.
• 56:09
  No, I kind of I kind of love that, especially for movies that
• 56:11
  are like already like 20 plus years old.
• 56:13
  I'm like, I'm like, yeah, sorry guys, I'm trying.
• 56:16
  I'm. Trying.
• 56:17
  Did this movie come out? I think this was like 2004.
• 56:20
  Yep, 2004. It's you know, it's just I get
• 56:26
  it's just one of those movies, though.
• 56:28
  I like when you looked at that end, I it it's just, you know,
• 56:36
  you, you go through the whole movie because this is like the
• 56:39
  whole expedition, right? Like, you know, it gets
• 56:41
  everything up to that point and then it just getting to that
• 56:45
  point and just reminding him of his friend and and Oh my.
• 56:56
  I think I think I don't know I have a love hate relationship
• 57:01
  with with Wes Anderson for sure. Like like some of his movies
• 57:09
  really speak to me. Some of his movies are big
• 57:11
  stinkers in my opinion. I love like the fantastic Mr.
• 57:15
  Fox is like such a good movie, so many good easy things to
• 57:22
  quote. But like that he he does have
• 57:25
  like a really good way of like playing at emotions, I think in
• 57:30
  the most absurd ways. Yeah, no, absolutely.
• 57:36
  I mean, like, that is something I, I gotta give him a lot of
• 57:40
  credit for in the way that it's like, you know, for instance, I,
• 57:46
  I, I'm not sure how you felt about Royal Tenenbaums, but I.
• 57:51
  I enjoy that movie. I wouldn't I I don't think I
• 57:54
  could sit down and watch it more than once a great while for.
• 57:59
  Sure, for sure, But I I, I will say that movie still has a way
• 58:04
  of even when that movie and I would argue and say this is
• 58:07
  maybe one of their more his more ridiculous goofy movies, more
• 58:12
  eccentric movies. I mean, like Gene Hackman is
• 58:14
  just like a a ridiculous eccentric character throughout
• 58:17
  the whole movie. But even throughout that, they
• 58:22
  still find a moment to to show that vulnerability, even in that
• 58:29
  ridiculous character in Gene Hackman in that moment, you
• 58:32
  know, yeah, him wanting to have a genuine, genuine connection
• 58:36
  with his grandkids. And, and that like, like, for
• 58:40
  instance, the whole, the whole sequence, the whole sequence of
• 58:44
  when he he took the kids out like playing hooky and they were
• 58:49
  just like, and they were just like, you know, having a goofy
• 58:52
  adventure. And then literally he like
• 58:54
  brings the kids back gambling and like and it and it's like,
• 58:59
  it's all so ridiculous, but it's all also kind of heart warming
• 59:04
  in a way where you're like, this person has not been in these
• 59:07
  kids lives at all. These kids barely know this
• 59:09
  person and would like to have a connection with this person.
• 59:13
  And this is maybe the closest they'll probably get to that.
• 59:17
  What a great cast, too. I'm just so sorry.
• 59:20
  I'm like looking at the cast and I'm like, I forgot, like just a
• 59:26
  bunch of people who will like now are like huge names that
• 59:30
  everybody knows. Owen Wilson, Luke Wilson, Ben
• 59:32
  Stiller, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bill Murray, Danny Glover.
• 59:37
  Yep, Yep. Love me some Danny Glover.
• 59:41
  Same and you know, I I will say this was my this would have been
• 59:47
  my 4th pick for comfort movie. OK, my my 4th my 4th pick for
• 59:52
  comfort movie would have been would have been be kind rewind
• 59:57
  that movie. Yes.
• 1:00:00
  When I said Danny Glover just now, that popped into my head.
• 1:00:02
  I was like, oh, what a what a great Jack Black.
• 1:00:06
  Who's the Who's the other most deaf?
• 1:00:10
  Most deaf? It just that movie was another
• 1:00:14
  one of those movies for me that when I watch, if I put that
• 1:00:17
  movie on, I'm in a great mood and I like.
• 1:00:21
  It's a love letter to so many other movies too, right?
• 1:00:26
  And I, and I, I love things like that.
• 1:00:27
  Like I, I love stuff that's like, you know, feels like an
• 1:00:31
  homage to, to movies and also just like a movie about like a,
• 1:00:36
  a community and a community, a small community wanting to like
• 1:00:38
  stick together for like, you know, a, a, a local video store.
• 1:00:43
  And there's just something so like, even if you don't live in
• 1:00:49
  a day and age of video stores anymore, I still think that if
• 1:00:52
  you'd watch this movie, you would have a lot of love and
• 1:00:55
  care for these characters and and setting it's in and.
• 1:01:01
  Right around the time that this movie came out, I worked I
• 1:01:04
  worked at a video game store. I worked at game Crazy and I
• 1:01:07
  don't know, I don't know if kids these days aren't going to
• 1:01:10
  understand game crazy. Game Crazy was in, it was like a
• 1:01:13
  GameStop but inside of a Hollywood video.
• 1:01:16
  So all of my Co workers, all of my Co workers were video like
• 1:01:21
  worked at the video rental store and I just went into the back
• 1:01:23
  and sold video games and played video games all day.
• 1:01:26
  I've sold a few, played many. Nice.
• 1:01:31
  But yeah, definitely like a cool vibe to work at a movie rental
• 1:01:37
  place when when this movie came out.
• 1:01:39
  Oh absolutely. I remember when I was actually
• 1:01:43
  around this time too. I actually I worked at a local
• 1:01:46
  video store in my hometown. With the name then then
• 1:01:51
  Hollywood Video I'm sure. I don't know.
• 1:01:54
  I, you know, I, I definitely, it was one of those things when I
• 1:01:58
  worked there, I felt like I was in the movie Clerks, Yeah.
• 1:02:02
  Where I just was like, you know, I was working and everything
• 1:02:06
  was, I mean, I wasn't as bad as like Randall was, but like, I,
• 1:02:09
  I, I, I just genuinely, I did my job.
• 1:02:13
  It was a, it was a video store in a small town and it was just
• 1:02:18
  really silly to me sometimes. Like for instance, I had like AI
• 1:02:23
  had like a full punk band at the time and I like we, we all tried
• 1:02:27
  to fit ourselves. We, we had a big thing where we
• 1:02:30
  just want to practice in really weird places.
• 1:02:32
  And so since I worked at the video store, I was like, guys,
• 1:02:36
  let's all practice in in the porn section.
• 1:02:38
  It's a really small, it's a really small, really small box
• 1:02:43
  room with like western flat doors.
• 1:02:46
  I was going to relate to you because I worked at a Mexican
• 1:02:49
  restaurant for a long time and I was in a band and I would have
• 1:02:53
  my bandmates come after hours because I was I was like a shift
• 1:02:57
  manager and we would play in like the backroom of this
• 1:03:00
  Mexican restaurant. But the porn section of a video
• 1:03:03
  rental store is definitely a cooler story.
• 1:03:08
  It was just so silly because it was four of us.
• 1:03:11
  We were all playing acoustic instruments.
• 1:03:13
  One of us was a stand up bass player, the other one was
• 1:03:16
  playing violin. The other person was playing
• 1:03:19
  banjo and I was playing guitar. And we all tried to fit inside
• 1:03:22
  of this porn video section and we we knew.
• 1:03:27
  You had to try to fit a drum kit in there, right?
• 1:03:29
  No, exactly. And I will say, trying to fit
• 1:03:33
  the bass, the big stand up bass, the big.
• 1:03:35
  Stand up bass. It almost felt like a drum kit.
• 1:03:40
  Well, I want to, we're, we've been talking for, for a while
• 1:03:42
  now. This is how these episodes
• 1:03:44
  always go. I get to the end and I'm like
• 1:03:46
  now I still have so much more I want to talk about.
• 1:03:48
  I, I want to pivot back to, to magic real quickly.
• 1:03:53
  Are you still playing? Like, are you actively playing?
• 1:03:56
  Are you a blue player or are you a good person?
• 1:04:02
  You know, actually that might be one of the best questions I may
• 1:04:06
  have ever gotten about magic. I will say I, I, I am AII do
• 1:04:14
  like I, I'm I'm mostly like a 2 colored type deck person.
• 1:04:19
  I, I, I'm a really big fan of like, like a like a black and
• 1:04:24
  white deck. I love I and I I can't remember
• 1:04:28
  what the term is for it. Gosh, it's like on the tip of my
• 1:04:32
  tongue. I love black and white.
• 1:04:34
  That is my favorite way to play. I love the like give and take,
• 1:04:38
  the like in commander decks. A lot of times those like the
• 1:04:42
  prefabs commander decks are like if it's black and white it Orsov
• 1:04:49
  I think is what it's called. Yeah.
• 1:04:52
  If it's black and white, it is like a very much like a like
• 1:04:55
  political deck. Like you're going to like
• 1:04:57
  convince other players at your commander cube to attack other
• 1:05:02
  players and not you and we'll both benefit.
• 1:05:05
  Yep. Yep.
• 1:05:07
  It's like, I think what's so fun about the different play styles
• 1:05:11
  and especially like the different colors and
• 1:05:13
  combinations is that they're all so interchangeable and all in
• 1:05:17
  ways that you you can really do anything you want, which is so
• 1:05:22
  much fun. Like I like another color combo.
• 1:05:26
  I really love. I love a green and red deck, A
• 1:05:28
  green and red deck. Big monsters blow things up.
• 1:05:32
  Yeah, I love it. There's so much fun about it.
• 1:05:36
  They one of the things you you mentioned that it was kind of
• 1:05:40
  like like customizable chess and I think that that's a great
• 1:05:43
  analogy. I just my favorite thing about
• 1:05:47
  magic is playing with people who care less about winning and care
• 1:05:51
  more about doing cool stuff. And I think you find that in in
• 1:05:56
  commander a whole lot less in standard.
• 1:05:58
  But like people who just want to play these weird jank like I'm
• 1:06:03
  gonna I'm gonna find one way to meet my insane win condition or
• 1:06:07
  I don't care if I win. Yes.
• 1:06:10
  No, absolutely. Like, you know, that that was
• 1:06:13
  like when I started jumping into commander.
• 1:06:16
  And now granted, I only, I've only played commander a handful
• 1:06:19
  of times, you know, I'm still pretty fresh on that.
• 1:06:22
  But I, I, I, I can tell that it's definitely very much the
• 1:06:27
  vibe, especially with like playing with friends that love
• 1:06:29
  building up things like it. It was kind of like that.
• 1:06:32
  Like we were at a point in the game where we were like they
• 1:06:36
  were trying to build up stuff. I was at like a standstill with
• 1:06:39
  them. And, and like we've already been
• 1:06:42
  playing for like 2 hours and 30 minutes at this point.
• 1:06:45
  And now this is where it kind of like really threw me off because
• 1:06:50
  I was like, I've been so used to playing games that like only
• 1:06:53
  really ever last like maybe an hour, maybe an hour and a half
• 1:06:58
  hour 45 if you're really like building stuff up, you know, but
• 1:07:02
  like, you know, playing for that 2 1/2 hour mark, I was like,
• 1:07:07
  whoa, this is this is too long. Why are we, why this is take
• 1:07:12
  we're just taking too long. And that's, I mean, that's my
• 1:07:16
  maybe only controversial take about commander.
• 1:07:18
  But I will say also on a, on a, on a lighter note, I have not
• 1:07:25
  got to play it as much. So maybe I just need to give it
• 1:07:28
  a list of more time? I think another thing I'll say
• 1:07:31
  about Commander that I think is, is really good for the game in
• 1:07:34
  general is you can go to a local game shop, a local card store,
• 1:07:40
  whatever you want to call them. And you can at any given time,
• 1:07:46
  depending on what they've got going on, you can find like a
• 1:07:51
  commander pod to like sit in on. And people are very welcoming
• 1:07:55
  most of the time, like the community, you you're gonna run
• 1:07:58
  and see your bad eggs too for sure.
• 1:08:00
  But but generally speaking, I think people who are like
• 1:08:03
  playing commander at a, at a game shop are like, you know, be
• 1:08:06
  super patient if you don't know how to play.
• 1:08:08
  And it's, it's a, it's a like a fun entry point.
• 1:08:12
  Like you can buy, you spend 40 bucks or whatever, get your 100
• 1:08:16
  card deck if that's all prefabricated and then it's like
• 1:08:19
  good enough to play with yeah and learn even if you aren't a
• 1:08:23
  Magic player. But.
• 1:08:25
  Absolutely. I mean, like honestly, I'll
• 1:08:27
  recommend the precon decks every time to people.
• 1:08:30
  Like even still, like even if you've been playing for a while,
• 1:08:34
  those decks are fun and they're fun in a way that like, whether
• 1:08:38
  or not you've been playing like for your first time or you've
• 1:08:41
  been playing for a long time, they're great for both of those
• 1:08:44
  things. Like, yeah, they're, they're
• 1:08:46
  great for a jumping off point for anyone just wanting to get
• 1:08:49
  into it. But they're also great for,
• 1:08:50
  like, if you want to grab something that you kind of want,
• 1:08:53
  like you really like the idea, but you want to like, customize
• 1:08:55
  more. Yeah.
• 1:08:57
  It's a great starting point for sure if you like don't want want
• 1:09:00
  to venture out to build your own 100 card deck.
• 1:09:06
  So here's my, this is my, this is the part of the podcast where
• 1:09:10
  I content farm. I'm going to ask you a
• 1:09:13
  ridiculous question. I'm, I'm going to go through all
• 1:09:19
  5 magic colours and I want you to give me the Midwest emo band
• 1:09:25
  or just emo band in general that you feel fits that colour theme
• 1:09:30
  the best. You have to answer right away,
• 1:09:32
  but I, but I definitely need an answer.
• 1:09:34
  All right, we'll start. We'll start with let's start
• 1:09:39
  with green. You know, it's tough because
• 1:09:44
  there's actually a lot of emo bands that I would actually put
• 1:09:47
  in the green category, so it's a little bit tough to.
• 1:09:52
  You can you can name a couple. Why not?
• 1:09:55
  We make the rules. You know what?
• 1:09:57
  Hey, you know what? You're right.
• 1:09:58
  You're right. I I would put the band Swiss
• 1:10:02
  Army Wife in in the green category.
• 1:10:06
  Close Swiss army wife. Yep, same.
• 1:10:09
  What always in the They're green.
• 1:10:11
  I don't know, they just they give me that kind of vibe of
• 1:10:14
  like of like, you know how like in a green deck you you're like,
• 1:10:19
  it's usually people playing some crazy stuff and they're like, we
• 1:10:22
  don't give a we don't give a fuck.
• 1:10:23
  This is bad ass. Check check it out.
• 1:10:26
  And that's that's. Kind of like 251010 monsters
• 1:10:31
  that I'm going to now make 2525 monsters.
• 1:10:34
  Right, or or those or those or those mother fuckers who are
• 1:10:37
  like actually check out all of my 101 One Saperling tokens.
• 1:10:46
  Saplings, man. Were you like, were you like or
• 1:10:51
  like or like an elf deck? You know, and, and they're like,
• 1:10:54
  actually, I'm gonna use like all these elves to like tap some
• 1:10:58
  mana and then actually see like a whole bunch of more elves that
• 1:11:01
  do some other crazy things. Like there is something about
• 1:11:06
  the color green that I actually feel is severely underrated.
• 1:11:12
  And and the only reason I say that and it sounds silly.
• 1:11:15
  I feel like even saying that out loud because I'm also talking
• 1:11:17
  about the deck with the big crazy monsters.
• 1:11:20
  But also, I would say it's one of those decks that I think is
• 1:11:27
  known for its big crazy monsters, but I think isn't
• 1:11:31
  known for all the other things that it can do.
• 1:11:35
  Right. Like for instance, I think one
• 1:11:38
  of my favorite green decks that I've ever played with and I
• 1:11:41
  still miss it till this day. It was like a pre con deck.
• 1:11:44
  It was a tree folk deck. OK.
• 1:11:47
  I think it came out around maybe 2010.
• 1:11:51
  Maybe it was part of the Mirror Win series.
• 1:11:56
  OK. But that deck ruled that pre con
• 1:12:02
  deck it was maybe 1 of the coolest things I ever.
• 1:12:07
  Played with four. No, that's not the wrong.
• 1:12:11
  That's a different one. I love looking up old decks and
• 1:12:15
  seeing how expensive. Yeah.
• 1:12:17
  Yeah, absolutely, because some of them are crazy.
• 1:12:22
  I gotta move you just for a SEC because I gotta hook you up to a
• 1:12:24
  charger. Yeah.
• 1:12:28
  But. Swiss Army wife is your Is your
• 1:12:32
  green deck band OK? Yeah, I I would put, I would put
• 1:12:37
  Swiss Army wife in the green deck category.
• 1:12:40
  I would also put let me think, let me think.
• 1:12:49
  Oh, oh, oh, I would also put the band presses Little life in in
• 1:12:56
  in the green category. And also mostly because they're
• 1:13:01
  just one of those, they're one of those emo orchestra bands,
• 1:13:05
  you know what I mean? They they got they got the
• 1:13:06
  numbers, they got the numbers much like a green deck one.
• 1:13:12
  And then I think the third band I'd put in for the color green
• 1:13:17
  would be, oh, camping in Alaska. I think that makes a lot of
• 1:13:27
  sense. Yeah.
• 1:13:29
  Ways. Yeah, I, I just, I feel it.
• 1:13:33
  I don't know. I don't have my reasoning for
• 1:13:35
  them. I'm not even alive with you on
• 1:13:37
  that one. But I will tell you that's the
• 1:13:39
  energy. It's the energy they got green.
• 1:13:41
  Energy with Alaska, you guys are green deck.
• 1:13:43
  Yeah. You're giving green energy.
• 1:13:47
  You got you got green deck energy.
• 1:13:49
  Let's let's see. Let's go red next.
• 1:13:53
  OK, OK, Red. I would absolutely put, I mean,
• 1:13:58
  right off the bat, Harrison Gordon is red.
• 1:14:02
  All right. Harrison Gordon, Red Deck Band.
• 1:14:07
  They're they're they're they're throwing.
• 1:14:09
  They're stuff like you're. Blowing stuff up.
• 1:14:10
  Yeah, they're throwing lightning bolts.
• 1:14:12
  They're throwing fucking. They're, they're, they're,
• 1:14:16
  they're, they're doing all kinds of fucked up shit, and in the
• 1:14:20
  best ways, in the best. In the best ways, I love that we
• 1:14:24
  had Orpen on and I may get some more I may get some more members
• 1:14:28
  of Harrison Gordon on at some point, but I do I like I like
• 1:14:31
  red for them. That's that's that's great.
• 1:14:34
  Even like the haste, the haste side of things like double.
• 1:14:39
  Strike, you know, the the the I'm blanking on some of the
• 1:14:44
  other. There's there's some.
• 1:14:45
  Like the Harrison Gordon double strike aspect too.
• 1:14:48
  That's that's good. Absolutely, absolutely.
• 1:14:53
  Do you have other bands that are?
• 1:14:54
  Do you throw in red? You know, there would be maybe
• 1:14:57
  one other band I'd put in the red category, and I'd probably
• 1:15:02
  say that would also be the band Arcadia Grey.
• 1:15:06
  So, so great. I love Arcadia, OK?
• 1:15:09
  Yeah, no. Great band, definitely a red
• 1:15:12
  deck. They're, they're, they're,
• 1:15:15
  they're, I don't, I don't, you know, they're, they're playing
• 1:15:18
  like a goblin deck, you know what I mean?
• 1:15:20
  And they're, they're like, they're like they're throwing
• 1:15:22
  some crazy shit at you. Arcadia Gray is just out here
• 1:15:25
  playing Goblin tribal. All right, we're going Color
• 1:15:32
  Wheels, so Black is next. Who?
• 1:15:34
  Who are your Who are your black emo bands?
• 1:15:37
  I mean, right off the bat, I mean, and this is I feel like
• 1:15:41
  pretty easy picks, but I would put the band Dikembe.
• 1:15:46
  Dikembe is hands down. They're swamped.
• 1:15:50
  They're they they are a black deck band.
• 1:15:53
  They are a band that not only will like fuck you up by doing
• 1:16:00
  like crazy things with having death tuts and and and having
• 1:16:05
  and having creatures go in the graveyard and coming back to the
• 1:16:08
  back to the battlefield from that.
• 1:16:10
  Yeah, that's Dikembe all the way.
• 1:16:14
  And then the other band would also be, Excuse me, who are you?
• 1:16:17
  They would also. Yes.
• 1:16:20
  Emily is absolutely a black deck band.
• 1:16:25
  Like, you know, there's vampires in this in this deck.
• 1:16:28
  I'm sure that if they I'm sure if they added some of the
• 1:16:32
  characters that they've they've used from some of their imagery
• 1:16:35
  and some of their stuff, you know, I mean, honestly, hey,
• 1:16:40
  when when are we going to start getting some perfect blue cards?
• 1:16:44
  What are we going to start getting some perfect Blue Magic
• 1:16:46
  cards? Come on.
• 1:16:47
  I'm talking. I'm talking to you, Hasbro.
• 1:16:49
  Come on. Get out here.
• 1:16:52
  Well, Speaking of blue, well, who are your who are your blue
• 1:16:55
  bands? OK now by the way, when I when I
• 1:17:00
  preface preface this, when I talk about any of these bands
• 1:17:05
  and calling them blue, this is not hate.
• 1:17:07
  I'm not hating on y'all. I think, I think actually you
• 1:17:12
  could say someone is like a blue deck band and it's like a big
• 1:17:16
  compliment because it's very like blue is very cerebral, like
• 1:17:19
  very much like a thinker, a planner, strategizer, very much
• 1:17:26
  like in Control of What's Happening or mermaids.
• 1:17:31
  Yes, I mean honestly or or fairies.
• 1:17:34
  Or fairies, Sure. Flying, you know.
• 1:17:39
  Oh, oh, You know, I had to think on this one.
• 1:17:43
  I oh, actually, no, I don't have to think on this one that hard.
• 1:17:50
  We are amphibians. Army amphibians.
• 1:17:55
  Yeah, yeah. Army amphibians.
• 1:17:56
  I do that all the time. Don't tell them because Brandon
• 1:17:59
  was on the show. I do that all the time.
• 1:18:01
  I don't know. I'm like, I'm I'm aren't we
• 1:18:04
  amphibians dyslexic for some reason?
• 1:18:06
  You know, I I just regularly dyslexic and that is actually
• 1:18:10
  the reason for me. I'm like, no, it's, it's like
• 1:18:14
  one of those things where I'm like, damn it.
• 1:18:17
  But yeah, aren't we amphibians? Like literally that band?
• 1:18:22
  Absolutely. Blue deck band.
• 1:18:25
  I would also put the band Kerosene Heights in that in that
• 1:18:28
  category. I'm from North Carolina, they're
• 1:18:31
  from North Carolina. I just, I love kerosene heights
• 1:18:34
  and oh, I, I actually agree. Like I can see them being like
• 1:18:38
  the very like like thinkers like.
• 1:18:40
  Yes, yes. Chill, yeah?
• 1:18:44
  It's like they're the types that are like that are like thinking
• 1:18:48
  it. They're like thinking and
• 1:18:49
  planning. And then when they and then when
• 1:18:51
  they do, when they do like pounce, it's like one of those
• 1:18:55
  things that like almost sweep you up like a whirlwind.
• 1:18:57
  Like you're like, you're like, oh, fight, what the hell?
• 1:19:00
  Surprise you they come out of nowhere and you when you least
• 1:19:02
  expect it. Counter card.
• 1:19:06
  Seriously. I'm, I'm literally like, they're
• 1:19:09
  like. It they're great.
• 1:19:14
  I cast fireball. No, I cast new tattoo and that's
• 1:19:17
  countered. Yeah, that's good.
• 1:19:25
  All right, last color is white. And what I put in in the white
• 1:19:33
  category for bands, it's, it's a little tough, but I, I think I
• 1:19:40
  got it. I I think I would add the band
• 1:19:44
  Holidays in the United. States OK I'm not familiar with
• 1:19:47
  them but I will check them out now but.
• 1:19:50
  That band rules. They they are, I mean not not
• 1:19:54
  the not the hype them up to our, but like they they.
• 1:19:58
  Hype them up. Shout out Holidays in the United
• 1:20:01
  States Holidays in the United States.
• 1:20:03
  Yep, holidays in the United States.
• 1:20:04
  Yeah, they, they put out like 2 albums and both of those albums
• 1:20:10
  they're fucking baller. They're really good.
• 1:20:12
  They sound like they were made in 2016.
• 1:20:16
  And it's so strange for me to say something like that because
• 1:20:20
  I've, I've listened to things that have been recorded in that
• 1:20:23
  time, but this like literally sounds like it.
• 1:20:26
  But it was just recorded in like 2024.
• 1:20:28
  And I'm like, I'm like, to me it feels like listening to Snowing
• 1:20:32
  again for the first time. That's great, they're on my
• 1:20:37
  list. I just followed them on Spotify
• 1:20:38
  so I can check them out later. And then actually, ironically, I
• 1:20:45
  would also put Snowing the Band as a white deck, not going back.
• 1:20:53
  Going back to holidays in the United States.
• 1:20:56
  Why? Why are they the white band?
• 1:20:58
  What's what? What gives them that white white
• 1:21:00
  deck vibe? They like, you know, they got
• 1:21:03
  that kind of energy about them that like, you know how like
• 1:21:07
  when a white deck comes in, it feels kind of confident, you
• 1:21:12
  know what I mean? In a way where you're like, they
• 1:21:14
  feel protected, like there's something.
• 1:21:17
  Very protective, like kind of homey almost.
• 1:21:19
  Yes, yes, Homey has the ability of bouncing back really well
• 1:21:27
  they. Don't count them out, they can
• 1:21:29
  come right back and get ya. I think they're also one of
• 1:21:35
  those bands. And I would also say the same
• 1:21:37
  thing about white decks is underestimated.
• 1:21:42
  I, I, I kind of put white decks in that underestimated category
• 1:21:47
  because I know while they do have a lot of life gain
• 1:21:50
  abilities, they do have a lot of things like soldiers and, and
• 1:21:53
  other things of other natures like, you know, angels, stuff
• 1:21:56
  like that. But like, I don't know, I think
• 1:21:59
  they have a lot of really cool versatility in a way that some
• 1:22:03
  of the other colors don't like that.
• 1:22:08
  And then I'm sorry I interrupted you.
• 1:22:10
  You you said Snowing mostly because of the name Snowing.
• 1:22:14
  Well, not not just because of the name Snowing, but because
• 1:22:18
  also white to me is a little scrappy.
• 1:22:22
  Like, do you, you, you pull out a white deck, some people either
• 1:22:26
  dismiss you or they'll be like, they'll be like, all right, this
• 1:22:29
  guy's just going to gain a lot of life.
• 1:22:31
  This person's just going to this mission's just going to like
• 1:22:33
  make it a little annoying for me.
• 1:22:36
  Right. And now?
• 1:22:38
  You leave that, you leave that 1/2 soldier on the battlefield
• 1:22:42
  long enough and it will destroy you.
• 1:22:45
  Yep, Yep. It's going to come up with first
• 1:22:47
  strike and you're going to be like, oh man.
• 1:22:53
  All right, well, let's let's do our last pivot and talk about
• 1:22:57
  Sweet Bike. You guys have been releasing a
• 1:22:59
  bunch of singles, which is super exciting.
• 1:23:02
  I have I, I didn't know Sweet Bike very well before, before we
• 1:23:09
  met each other on Instagram a couple of weeks ago, but I have
• 1:23:12
  really enjoyed it. I definitely vibe with your
• 1:23:15
  music. Is there more coming?
• 1:23:17
  What do you guys have coming up? Yeah, yeah, actually we have a
• 1:23:22
  full album that's going to be coming out.
• 1:23:25
  It's called Get Off Your High Horses and Raise the Roof.
• 1:23:30
  It it it comes, it comes out September 11th.
• 1:23:33
  OK, that's. Very.
• 1:23:37
  Soon, Yeah. And, you know, we're trying to
• 1:23:39
  just give people a new reason to remember things, to remember our
• 1:23:43
  album in a way that only we can do it.
• 1:23:47
  And also this time around, it's, it's kind of a little bit
• 1:23:52
  different for us because we're going a little bit more of an
• 1:23:53
  evil route. We're we're going evil this
• 1:23:56
  year. Going black deck.
• 1:23:58
  Yeah, we're going black deck this year this this year, this
• 1:24:02
  year sweep like the band we're using we're zombie black deck.
• 1:24:07
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you better watch out too.
• 1:24:10
  It's. Watch out.
• 1:24:12
  Messed up you're. Going to get me cook massacre.
• 1:24:20
  I, I, you know, but besides the album coming out in September,
• 1:24:26
  we are also, along with that we have like, you know, vinyl and,
• 1:24:33
  and tapes and CDs, stuff like that.
• 1:24:34
  This will also be going along with the album and we also have
• 1:24:40
  an album release show that's going to be happening later in
• 1:24:42
  October. Cool, has that been announced
• 1:24:45
  already? Yes, yes, it's, it's going to be
• 1:24:48
  October 16th. Right on.
• 1:24:52
  Well, that's really cool and hopefully you guys get out on
• 1:24:55
  tour sometime in the near future too.
• 1:24:59
  It's definitely, it's definitely on our on our on our list to do.
• 1:25:03
  That's definitely what we plan on doing over in the springtime.
• 1:25:06
  We plan on taking the rest of the winter to kind of work on
• 1:25:09
  some writing some more and then kind of get back out there.
• 1:25:12
  Right on. Well, I'm excited for the new
• 1:25:15
  album. I'm, I'm.
• 1:25:17
  I'm writing down the date right now.
• 1:25:21
  Although it should be easy to remember. 911 can't forget.
• 1:25:25
  I'm old enough that it should be very easy for me to remember.
• 1:25:30
  You know, I, I've been, I've been, I've been hearing that
• 1:25:32
  it's a good year for 911. I don't know.
• 1:25:35
  It's a good year of the 25 year anniversary.
• 1:25:37
  Yeah, I I heard, I knew. It's a good year for it.
• 1:25:39
  I don't know. I'm not, I'm no, I'm no expert.
• 1:25:42
  Don't quote me on this. All right.
• 1:25:48
  Well, Chris, thank you again so much for coming on.
• 1:25:51
  I appreciate it. Everyone go check out Speed
• 1:25:53
  Fight and make sure you check out their album on the 11th.
• 1:25:57
  Thank. You.