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Etienne, Herndon & more players to watch in week 8 | Jags Drive Time: Thursday, October 27 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Try chime with Ashlyn Sullimson with John
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Speaker 1: Oceans and Bryan sect Jangs try to starts right now
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Speaker 1: first and going from the seven yard line, dot gun
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Speaker 1: for Trevor inside hand off to try to cd N
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Speaker 1: into the end zone. Touchdown. They're gonna move it to
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Speaker 1: the one yard line and then the Jacks are gonna
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Speaker 1: go for two here, nice little gap right there. J T.
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Speaker 1: They handed to eat N. He is into the end
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Speaker 1: zone and the two point conversion is good. He walked
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Speaker 1: into the end. Don't say first of them. Congratulations to
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Speaker 1: Trava c Ets. After scoring seventy eight touchdowns at Flempson,
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Speaker 1: he finally gets his first career touchdown and bore than
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Speaker 1: they needed sounded the game from last week's game against
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Speaker 1: the Giants. You can check out the full episode right
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Speaker 1: now on Jaguars dot com and how topical that it
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Speaker 1: is about Travis E t N. Welcome into Jaguars Drive
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Speaker 1: time on a Thursday morning, Ashlen, Bryan and John here
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Speaker 1: with you as the team is getting ready to head
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Speaker 1: to London this afternoon. Taken off around five o'clock. But
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Speaker 1: a normal day, as normal as it can be, doesn't
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Speaker 1: feel normal, all the the construction projects around the Florida
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Speaker 1: Georgia game. Georgia Florida for those of you north of
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Speaker 1: the border. Um, well, I can't tell you how many
1:29
Speaker 1: times I've said Florida Georgia and had Georgia people going
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Speaker 1: on Georgia Florida. When is that ever? I went to Kansas, right,
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Speaker 1: Who cares? Um? But there's so much going on out
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Speaker 1: there in the Bowl, you know, I mean, they've been
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Speaker 1: so big on you know, don't turn the cameras on
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Speaker 1: the field during practice and don't walk around inside there.
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Speaker 1: And this week it's like the whole world's in that bowl.
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Speaker 1: So it's a huge distraction match. What's so much going
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Speaker 1: on and just the day to day life of building
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Speaker 1: a facility as well. Outside in this parking lot, there's
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Speaker 1: a lot going on at the stadium this week. That's
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Speaker 1: a crazy place. All right. Let's get into big things,
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Speaker 1: shall we. Big thing one is Trevor Lawrence. Back to
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Speaker 1: back productive weeks for the quarterback in the offense as
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Speaker 1: a whole the past couple of weeks, the quarterback going
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Speaker 1: forward looking for more consistency. So there's usually something that
2:15
Speaker 1: kind of tells the story. But when you look at
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Speaker 1: the way we've we've played obviously hasn't been good enough
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Speaker 1: to win more games, and that's that's the main goal.
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Speaker 1: So that's really all we're talking about. But you know,
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Speaker 1: we've been able to move to the ball and everybody
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Speaker 1: we've played, we've had a lot a lot of yards
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Speaker 1: pretty much in every game, and um, but just certain areas,
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Speaker 1: whether that's third down one week, red zone one week, um,
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Speaker 1: turnovers one week, whatever it is. We just gotta kind
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Speaker 1: of put together a complete game and do that more frequently,
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Speaker 1: you know, more consistently. So you know, we look at
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Speaker 1: all that and we know we're capable of and we've
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Speaker 1: shown when we when we're at our best, we're playing well,
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Speaker 1: we're in a great offense. So um, we gotta we
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Speaker 1: gotta get back to that and just being more consistent.
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Speaker 1: Big thing to Russell Wilson, the Broncos quarterback, limited at
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Speaker 1: practice yesterday. However, he did tell media after practice that
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Speaker 1: he will be playing on Sunday after not playing last week. Nonetheless,
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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson preparing just in case for the backup for
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Speaker 1: the Broncos. There's a ton of film with with Russell,
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Speaker 1: and now there's a game with with the backup with
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Speaker 1: Rippin and um, you know, we just we just go
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Speaker 1: we just go about it as business as usual. We
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Speaker 1: understand both, you know, Um, we understand what Russell brings
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Speaker 1: to that team. And he also has the ability to
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Speaker 1: run and use his legs and he's I've played against
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Speaker 1: him or coached against him many times and and he
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Speaker 1: can beat you doing that, and um, you know, and
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Speaker 1: so it just has to it has to be a
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of the every hand on deck, so
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Speaker 1: to speak, to exhaust the film, understand you know, kind
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Speaker 1: of what they're beginning of what our defense is getting into,
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Speaker 1: and be uh be prepared for both. And big thing
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Speaker 1: three that guy Doug Peterson his first trip to London
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Speaker 1: with the Jaguars and taking a really big picture look
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Speaker 1: of the season and where this franchise will be maybe
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Speaker 1: three years going forward. But the week to week is
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Speaker 1: still important and it's not the only story. I wish
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Speaker 1: we had a few more of these wins. You know
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Speaker 1: that there are the losses. There were wins, but we
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Speaker 1: are two and five and and I do believe this
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Speaker 1: if the team is in a really good place mentally,
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Speaker 1: they you know, this is a this is a it's
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Speaker 1: a good group to coach, you know, they're they're still hungry,
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Speaker 1: you know, and and still working working hard, you know,
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Speaker 1: and and doing the right things to try to get
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Speaker 1: the things looking up. And now you have it. Those
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Speaker 1: are big things. Going back to big thing LNG Trevor
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Speaker 1: Lawrence and his press conference yesterday, and we talked him
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Speaker 1: yesterday's show about the optimism in the building. And it's
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Speaker 1: not raw raw two and five, but Trevor and when
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Speaker 1: he spoke yesterday, you could sense he feels good about
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Speaker 1: where he's at. He feels good about where he's moving.
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Speaker 1: Does he want more wins? Yeah, but you sense this
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Speaker 1: excitement in his voice when he talks about the way
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Speaker 1: he's been playing lately. I thought about this because John,
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Speaker 1: we've been talking about, you know, six drives of over
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Speaker 1: sixty yards and you know, costing themselves with turnovers or
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Speaker 1: pen theser. You know what they are. They're incomplete and
5:02
Speaker 1: we all know that they don't have that game breaking,
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Speaker 1: um death defying kind of player that all of a
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Speaker 1: sudden can turn things over and change a game. But
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Speaker 1: they're competitive, right, That's where the optimism come from. They
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Speaker 1: know that they're incomplete, yet they're competitive, and so when
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Speaker 1: you've got that, it's like, look, we can still get
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Speaker 1: this done if we have, but we have to play
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Speaker 1: our best game. Right. Someday they won't. Someday they'll have
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Speaker 1: a Jamaar Chase kind of receiver that everybody has to
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Speaker 1: focus on, and then all of a sudden there's more
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Speaker 1: room for Travis E. T n and for the tight
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Speaker 1: end sliding underneath. I mean, it changes everything when you
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Speaker 1: have that kind of game changing player, which why they
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Speaker 1: call him a game changing player. Um, they're incomplete, but
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Speaker 1: they're competitive. That's a good thing. Sometimes when you think
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Speaker 1: about something and analyze it every day, you know, that
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Speaker 1: phrase the forest for the trees, uh comes in and
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Speaker 1: I think with Trevor, you know, every day in my inbox,
6:00
Speaker 1: I get four or five questions he's not this, or
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Speaker 1: he is this, or he's great. So we've avoided the
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Speaker 1: whole thing this year of saying, well, this is really
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Speaker 1: his rookie season, because I don't know what all that means.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how to define what it's supposed to be.
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Speaker 1: But if he was a rookie seven games in and
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Speaker 1: he was on pace for twenty one or twenty two
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Speaker 1: touchdowns with uh nine or ten interceptions with this around him.
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Speaker 1: If he was a rookie, you'd feel really good about it.
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Speaker 1: So forget the rookie everything. If you just take from
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Speaker 1: where he was at this point last year to where
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Speaker 1: he is right now, how can you not see dramatic improvement? Absolutely?
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Speaker 1: Who is to say that it's not going to continue
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Speaker 1: in that direction. So I think he's starting to feel
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Speaker 1: bad a little bit if you if you remember last year,
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Speaker 1: there was a time where all the madness was going
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Speaker 1: on where I don't say he went in the tank
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Speaker 1: a little bit, but it got really old. The seasons
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Speaker 1: sort of got old, which does for a rookie, it
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Speaker 1: would have for anybody. Last year. I don't sense that
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Speaker 1: this year. No sense that he's feeling that, Oh, I'm
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Speaker 1: figuring out and the things that people are criticizing me
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Speaker 1: for the end of game, and no comeback that will
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Speaker 1: come if I just stay true to what I'm doing.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to do because we're such a statistical, statistically
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Speaker 1: driven um sports culture, right with fantasy football and all that.
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Speaker 1: But if you just throw the stats away and let
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Speaker 1: your eyes tell you what's happening, right, trust that what
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Speaker 1: you see when you see him making plays down the
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Speaker 1: field the last couple of weeks is what this kid is.
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Speaker 1: Don't worry about whether he has, you know, ten more
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Speaker 1: touchdowns than interceptions or what his completion percentages. You'll know
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Speaker 1: at the end of this season if he's the guy,
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Speaker 1: because you'll be able to say I saw it through
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Speaker 1: the course of the year. That's what's happening now. Absolutely, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I think the conflict point is always going to be
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Speaker 1: you know, there there are still overthrows, There is some
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Speaker 1: touch stuff that you would like to see him work out.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what the endgame on that is. I
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Speaker 1: know he will continue to work on it. Of course,
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Speaker 1: every quarterback hasps and but most quarterbacks have that one
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Speaker 1: guy who goes above the xs and os and doesn't
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Speaker 1: make them stand out. So right, Jag Warson happened at
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Speaker 1: this moment. Who's to say somebody can't develop into that
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Speaker 1: or they go get that guy the game changer you mentioned.
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Speaker 1: You need to go get that guy and they will.
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Speaker 1: Hey real quick on Russell Wilson, since it appears that
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Speaker 1: he's going to play now, I talked to a scout
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Speaker 1: and a coach, guys who've been here about him who
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Speaker 1: are out in the NFC now and they said, the
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Speaker 1: most important thing to know about Wilson is that he
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Speaker 1: sees everything. Right. He's not the biggest, didn't have the
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Speaker 1: strongest arm, He's not gonna be really mobile with the hamstring,
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Speaker 1: but man, if you give him an inch, he will
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Speaker 1: find it. He just has this uncanny knack of seeing
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Speaker 1: the entire field. That's the key to beating him. And
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Speaker 1: just the veteran presence. Even when we talk about Matt
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Speaker 1: Ryan with the Colts and everyone was saying, oh, Matt Ryan,
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Speaker 1: isn't it he's not the future. Well, just the veteran
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Speaker 1: presence that you see on the field against a young
8:55
Speaker 1: Jaguars defense. You're so right. You can't give them anything
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Speaker 1: because they're going to point it out. Yeah, you can't.
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Speaker 1: It's hard to fool him, and if you make a mistake,
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Speaker 1: he'll fool you. Yeah. A major storyline though, is he
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Speaker 1: has not played like that guy? Uh So, will this
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Speaker 1: be the game that he turns it on? That's what
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Speaker 1: always scares you when you're playing. It's what scared you
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Speaker 1: about Matt Ryan. Is this the game you finally turn
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Speaker 1: it on? Because Russell Wilson has not played like Russell Wilson.
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Speaker 1: There are people who think he's not running as well,
9:26
Speaker 1: not as mobile has taken part of his game away.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes when guys here that, they get tired of hearing
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Speaker 1: it and they play very well. So that's what makes
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Speaker 1: Russell dangerous this weekend. He also has the pectoral injury.
9:35
Speaker 1: He flew out to l a and had a specialist
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Speaker 1: look at it and they haven't put him in a
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Speaker 1: harness or anything crazy like that. But he's not healthy.
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Speaker 1: And look they let him go. I mean Seattle traded him.
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Speaker 1: You have to ask yourself why, right, So I'm not
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Speaker 1: saying he's unbeatable. He's got two really good receivers. If
9:53
Speaker 1: you recall Courtland Sullivan or Courtland Sutton had seven for
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Speaker 1: one nine and a touchdown here last year. They got
9:59
Speaker 1: their hands full with him. Yeah, it's going to be
10:01
Speaker 1: a tough game for the Jaguars on Sunday against the
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Speaker 1: Broncos in London. When we come back, we go around
10:05
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10:25
Speaker 1: We are back Jaguars Drive Time. A major storyline this
10:28
Speaker 1: Thursday morning is a departure of jam Robinson's to the
10:31
Speaker 1: New York Jets and Travis E ten being the guy,
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Speaker 1: being the starting running back that we already knew he was,
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Speaker 1: but now with this trade, it's very clear. Travis E
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Speaker 1: t n yes day in the locker room, I thought
10:40
Speaker 1: was fantastic on balancing missing his teammate but appreciating that
10:45
Speaker 1: he is now the guy. As a competitors is what
10:48
Speaker 1: I wanted, and as a competitor, that's what he wanted.
10:50
Speaker 1: So now he has even going there and be the man.
10:53
Speaker 1: He gets the carriage that he wants that he needs,
10:55
Speaker 1: and uh, as you know, James get better at the
10:57
Speaker 1: game goes and I plays the same for me and
11:00
Speaker 1: we both wanta have a chance to showcase all the
11:01
Speaker 1: skills and the hell of players. I thought he was awesome.
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Speaker 1: He balanced it so well. James Robinson's comment yesterday, I
11:08
Speaker 1: did it, didn't It doesn't look like he's unhappy, right,
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Speaker 1: He's in New York and he's five and two. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: everyone wins, everyone wins, win win. No more drama. And
11:18
Speaker 1: then there wasn't really every drama, but I thought Travis,
11:21
Speaker 1: especially they were about thirty reporters around his locker and
11:23
Speaker 1: Travis this is kind of his first welcome to the
11:25
Speaker 1: NFL moment. They asked about when they tried to Livis
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Speaker 1: because it was kind of his first taste of this.
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Speaker 1: But this is a guy. They had lockers next to
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Speaker 1: each other and all of a sudden, he's just gone,
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Speaker 1: and he spoke about, Yeah, it's a little weird. It
11:36
Speaker 1: takes him getting used to You're not you know, accustomed
11:39
Speaker 1: to this. Yeah, and he, uh, we are seeing in
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Speaker 1: the last month. It's kind of self evident at this
11:47
Speaker 1: point him turned into one of the core players and
11:52
Speaker 1: the main guys on this team. This is his rookie
11:54
Speaker 1: season spokesman for the team. If you I mean it's
11:57
Speaker 1: it's Trevor Josh Allen, Uh, Travis c Tan. Guys like
12:02
Speaker 1: that because Travis is earning that on the field and
12:06
Speaker 1: he is a guy who is deciding the direction. When
12:10
Speaker 1: I say deciding, I mean he's making the decision for
12:12
Speaker 1: the franchise. But he's dictating how this franchise is going
12:16
Speaker 1: right now, and he's gonna handle it well. And uh,
12:19
Speaker 1: the issue is, uh, does he have the stamina to
12:24
Speaker 1: do it? And can he protect the ball to do it?
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Speaker 1: And that's what he's going to need to work on
12:28
Speaker 1: moving forward, but talent wise, he sure got it well.
12:31
Speaker 1: And I'm not surprised that he handled the media well.
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Speaker 1: He came from a Clemson program that was in the
12:36
Speaker 1: spotlight every year he was there. Of course, he was
12:39
Speaker 1: one of the best players, so he saw a lot
12:41
Speaker 1: of media action and he handled himself well. Good for him, absolutely,
12:44
Speaker 1: all right. We also spoke to Trey Herndon, who is
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Speaker 1: going to be the starting cornerback for at least the
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Speaker 1: next four weeks as Shaquille Griffin has been placed on
12:51
Speaker 1: injured reserve. Speaking about a week that's already kind of
12:54
Speaker 1: weird going to London now even weirder for Trey Herndon.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, after being here for while, you know, playing
13:01
Speaker 1: for a while kind of just been my role um
13:04
Speaker 1: being able to you know, play outside or inside whenever
13:07
Speaker 1: someone may go down or anything. So just having noticed
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Speaker 1: stack years of doing that, I'm very confident going in
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Speaker 1: and just believing that the coaches believing me to do so,
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Speaker 1: you know, that also gives me confidence and the team
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Speaker 1: as well, the guys on the defense offense believing in me.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, a good confidence coming there for sir. And
13:25
Speaker 1: never you guy's gonna say they have good confidence when
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Speaker 1: they get into the starting lineup. But I do believe
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Speaker 1: Trey Herndon because this isn't his first rodeo. He has
13:31
Speaker 1: done this countless times where he's had to step in
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Speaker 1: and play in a matter of five days. You know,
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Speaker 1: I god forbid that I quote Jalen Ramsey here um
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Speaker 1: because John might lose it. But Ramsey always used to
13:44
Speaker 1: say that he thought Tray Herndon could play, he wasn't
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Speaker 1: ready to play. And I don't think he's a front
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Speaker 1: line player. But John, maybe I'm wrong. I don't think
13:52
Speaker 1: we'll see Shat Griffin again. I not not the injuryything.
13:55
Speaker 1: I think what happens is you get you get four
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Speaker 1: more weeks down to this thing, and you're in week twelve,
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Speaker 1: week thirteen, and then why would you put him back
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Speaker 1: in when his salary cap figure next year says and
14:05
Speaker 1: his performance say it's time to move on? And then
14:07
Speaker 1: you put Monterek Brown in, who Doug told us on
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Speaker 1: Monday told us last week is a guy who's playing better,
14:12
Speaker 1: starting to make strides on the practice field. I think
14:15
Speaker 1: we've seen the end of Shack Griffin here, and so
14:17
Speaker 1: it's to Trey Herndon and you know, back to the
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Speaker 1: Ramsey thing. Let's see if he's evolved over the last
14:22
Speaker 1: couple of years since Ramsey made that comment in well,
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Speaker 1: I certainly think it's a good Possibly we won't see
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Speaker 1: Shack again, but for the reasons you site, by the
14:31
Speaker 1: time he gets back, you're gonna be what four or
14:34
Speaker 1: five games at the end of the season, contract situation.
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Speaker 1: I was watching Trey Herndon there and I was a
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Speaker 1: smile because I remember when he first got here he
14:41
Speaker 1: hated doing it, hated it. I'm sure he doesn't. I
14:43
Speaker 1: really enjoy it now. But he's a much different kid.
14:46
Speaker 1: And think, well, of course he's a different kid. He's
14:49
Speaker 1: seen some stuff around here, right. He was standing right
14:52
Speaker 1: in the middle of Jalen's explosion in Yeah. He he
14:56
Speaker 1: was in the same meeting room as Jalen Ramsey for years,
15:00
Speaker 1: was next to him. And then of course he was
15:02
Speaker 1: here last year, the year before, and he he did
15:05
Speaker 1: not expect this when he left Vanderbill. He is no
15:07
Speaker 1: longer a kid who he's no longer a kid. He's
15:10
Speaker 1: a man. You know, he's a guy who has evolved
15:12
Speaker 1: into a player. You know, he got beat early last week,
15:15
Speaker 1: which is not a surprise. He hasn't played a lot,
15:18
Speaker 1: but then he settled in and I'm told that he
15:20
Speaker 1: played okay. So let's see if he improves this week.
15:22
Speaker 1: It's a big challenge because Jerry Judy can really run
15:25
Speaker 1: in Courtland Sutton. You know, he's six ft four, he's
15:28
Speaker 1: got long arms. He's a Michael Pittman kind of guy
15:30
Speaker 1: who they he can make you look bad, so they've
15:32
Speaker 1: got to be ready. He's got to play better this week.
15:34
Speaker 1: Right out of the game. He doesn't you forget, He's
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Speaker 1: a guy that just almost like a shot Lee just
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Speaker 1: who is always here, always dependable, doesn't get enough credit
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Speaker 1: for being Yeah, but I'll never forget when Jalen paid
15:45
Speaker 1: him a compliment and I went, you're talking about another
15:47
Speaker 1: cornerback being nice? Exactly what's wrong with you? All Right's
15:52
Speaker 1: last locker room for us jo Wan Taylor talking about
15:55
Speaker 1: going to London. How this is kind of just another
15:57
Speaker 1: away game at this point. Oh, most definitely for the
16:01
Speaker 1: guys who've been here, they you know, they got to
16:03
Speaker 1: know how to operate and when going to London, it's
16:05
Speaker 1: not really that that hard. But at the same time,
16:07
Speaker 1: it's still kind of hard just getting your body adjusted
16:09
Speaker 1: because as soon as you get over there, you gotta
16:11
Speaker 1: get ready and prepare for practice, and your body is
16:13
Speaker 1: still on like a three thirty a young time frame,
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Speaker 1: so it's kind of it's kind of tough, but if
16:17
Speaker 1: you get used to it, you'll be all right. Pretty fascinating.
16:20
Speaker 1: I think that two teams that are playing the same
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Speaker 1: game on the same field are handling this week so
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Speaker 1: incredibly differently. The Broncos flying out on Monday night and
16:29
Speaker 1: have been there this entire week. Their whole life this
16:31
Speaker 1: week has been interrupted, where the Jaguars are sticking to
16:34
Speaker 1: their plan. It's a storyline, and I'm curious. You know
16:36
Speaker 1: how teams do this differently, and there's an adoption to it,
16:39
Speaker 1: but the Jaguars aren't shaking from the plan that's worked
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Speaker 1: for them for years. It's interesting because Nate Hackett, who's
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Speaker 1: who's the coach of the Broncos, was here most of
16:50
Speaker 1: the time he was here. This team went on on Thursday,
16:54
Speaker 1: by the way we're doing today, sixteen and seventeen, and
16:57
Speaker 1: I think they won every game. You usually you switch
17:00
Speaker 1: up when you haven't haven't had success. So here's what
17:04
Speaker 1: will happened, Brian, So in the last four or five years,
17:08
Speaker 1: I don't remember team really going this early since the
17:10
Speaker 1: Jaguars did it in twelve and thirteen. En they went
17:14
Speaker 1: out on on Monday and then they went on on Sunday.
17:16
Speaker 1: So now what will happen is if the Broncos win,
17:19
Speaker 1: every team will now go like four weeks early and
17:22
Speaker 1: this right, So I don't think this one will. But
17:25
Speaker 1: it's such a copycat lead that everybody will memic it now,
17:28
Speaker 1: and I don't know that has Sometimes the difference when
17:32
Speaker 1: you go play over there is which teams better. Guess what, Brian.
17:36
Speaker 1: Remember we're standing on the fielding and here come the
17:40
Speaker 1: defending uh NFC champion San Francisco forty niners and they
17:45
Speaker 1: ran by. I'm like, whoa, because they were big and athletic.
17:50
Speaker 1: I mean, if you go back and look at that team,
17:51
Speaker 1: they were huge and the Jaguars weren't. When the Jaguars
17:54
Speaker 1: walking there was a noticeable difference. You're like yeah. And
17:56
Speaker 1: then the Cowboys the next year is like okay, and
18:00
Speaker 1: all the London strategy goes out the way, well it
18:02
Speaker 1: does go out the window. You know, this team has
18:04
Speaker 1: gone from here on Monday from Cincinnati after a game
18:07
Speaker 1: teen we flew right over. Um. It's all about the
18:12
Speaker 1: program that works for you, because these guys talk about business.
18:15
Speaker 1: Remember we were there all week and I went with
18:18
Speaker 1: UM Sindric Mars and Mercedes Lewis to sell poppies, which
18:21
Speaker 1: is the the symbol of their remembrance day. And so
18:25
Speaker 1: it was a big community event right down in the midt,
18:28
Speaker 1: the heart of London. Well, they don't do that anymore, right,
18:30
Speaker 1: that's not how they market this team over there. Uh,
18:32
Speaker 1: they figured it out. They've got a group over there
18:35
Speaker 1: that handles that the football team comes in. They played
18:37
Speaker 1: the game, and then they go home. Right, it's about
18:40
Speaker 1: getting a win. And Doug told us yesterday because I
18:42
Speaker 1: asked him about the trip and having the game, because
18:45
Speaker 1: they asked for the bye. He goes, Look, this is
18:47
Speaker 1: supposed to be just like a West coast trip. It's
18:49
Speaker 1: really not that much different. So let's treat it like that,
18:52
Speaker 1: and let's get in, let's get out, let's come home.
18:54
Speaker 1: Let's get ready for the next game, all right. And
18:56
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19:33
Speaker 1: is time for he wills he won't, he mights Bryant. Yeah,
19:36
Speaker 1: I'm going with Josh Allen. I love finding him on
19:38
Speaker 1: Wednesdays after practice because still actually invite you to sit
19:42
Speaker 1: down next to him and just talk. Um. So I'm
19:45
Speaker 1: gonna say he will make a big play on Sunday.
19:47
Speaker 1: He kept talking about how the defense with just one
19:50
Speaker 1: play right, one tipball interception, one sack, strip fumble recovery,
19:55
Speaker 1: they feel like they're close and that will reignite the
19:59
Speaker 1: per sonality that we talked about early in the season
20:03
Speaker 1: but we haven't since. So he'll leave the guy to
20:05
Speaker 1: make the play because he knows that they're all kind
20:08
Speaker 1: of counting on him to be that guy and that
20:10
Speaker 1: we're expecting it from him. That's Josh Allen, seventh pick
20:13
Speaker 1: of the draft, you know, looking for the big contract.
20:16
Speaker 1: He knows it, um and and not in a put
20:18
Speaker 1: all the pressure on his shoulders kind of way. He
20:20
Speaker 1: wants to make the play. Um, he won't make mental
20:23
Speaker 1: mistakes this week. You know, he jumped off sides right
20:25
Speaker 1: then went and sacked the quarterback caused the fumble. Jags
20:28
Speaker 1: have it right, except he jumped off sides. Um. He
20:31
Speaker 1: was really he beat himself up for that play when
20:33
Speaker 1: we were sitting there talking um and and had some
20:37
Speaker 1: very strong words for his teammates about playing better football,
20:41
Speaker 1: um and doing the things that they have to do.
20:42
Speaker 1: So I think he'll lead the way by not making
20:45
Speaker 1: mental mistakes and costing himself and his team. Uh. And
20:48
Speaker 1: finally think that big play might be one in the
20:50
Speaker 1: fourth quarter this week that sets up a game winning
20:53
Speaker 1: field goal, sets up the close game win for the
20:55
Speaker 1: Jaguars this week, because you know, Josh is one of
20:58
Speaker 1: those longer tenured players around here and guy that we
21:00
Speaker 1: all expect to be that playmaker, and he knows it
21:04
Speaker 1: and he wants to do it, and I think this
21:06
Speaker 1: might be the week I like that. And you can
21:08
Speaker 1: so see just the personality of the defense. And I
21:10
Speaker 1: keep going back to Week three in Los Angeles, But
21:12
Speaker 1: you do you envision All they need is one because
21:15
Speaker 1: once they start believing, this is almost a false confident group.
21:18
Speaker 1: And once they start believing, I see it on the sidelines,
21:21
Speaker 1: they're going nuts. You can. So it's the momentum and
21:24
Speaker 1: they haven't had to play the last couple of weeks,
21:26
Speaker 1: and this is a group that I think needs to
21:28
Speaker 1: feed off momentum. They do. Um My, he will, he will?
21:32
Speaker 1: He might is Trey Herndon and we just talked about
21:36
Speaker 1: himsel I'll make it quick. He will be the guy
21:39
Speaker 1: for a while. If he says healthy, I think he's
21:41
Speaker 1: going to be the guy out there. Um. It's as
21:44
Speaker 1: a chance that he's waited for in this sort of
21:48
Speaker 1: environment for a long time. He's had chances before with
21:51
Speaker 1: the team really not in very good situations. So I
21:54
Speaker 1: think he's got his chance to sort of show that
21:58
Speaker 1: he can start and be a again. I don't know
22:01
Speaker 1: the stage of his career. He's gonna be a long
22:03
Speaker 1: term starter anywhere, but he get a chance to show
22:05
Speaker 1: he can do it. He won't be overwhelmed by it.
22:07
Speaker 1: As we saw in the clip and as you've seen
22:09
Speaker 1: from him so far this season, he's ready for this.
22:12
Speaker 1: He's comfortable with his role. He's fine with being a
22:17
Speaker 1: guy who comes in when he gets a chance, and
22:20
Speaker 1: he might be the guy. I don't want to overstate this,
22:24
Speaker 1: but with Shaqq Griffin against the Colts, the Colts saw
22:29
Speaker 1: something that they knew the Jaguars couldn't stop, and it
22:33
Speaker 1: was an ugly, ugly situation for the last quarter and
22:36
Speaker 1: a half where it took away any chance that defensive
22:39
Speaker 1: had of being effective. Trey Herndon might be able. He's
22:43
Speaker 1: not gonna be a Pro Bowl and he's not gonna
22:44
Speaker 1: be a lockdown guy, but he might be able to
22:47
Speaker 1: get that sorted out enough where he might be the
22:50
Speaker 1: guy to give the defense a chance to get back
22:52
Speaker 1: to what you were just talking about. Get enough good
22:55
Speaker 1: man coverage, disrupt enough near the lineout the past rush
22:59
Speaker 1: time get home. Last two weeks, the pass rush has
23:02
Speaker 1: not had time to get to the quarterback. If Trey
23:04
Speaker 1: Herning can be a little better than Shack, all of
23:07
Speaker 1: a sudden, maybe that pass rush gets a little better,
23:09
Speaker 1: so he might he might, in his way, be the
23:11
Speaker 1: key to this thing. Shelenne, Yeah, kind of just like
23:13
Speaker 1: neutralizing the situation. It sounds harsh, but not being a
23:16
Speaker 1: liability where you're hurting the defense, like you don't be great,
23:19
Speaker 1: just keep it even at this point, Well, he's going
23:21
Speaker 1: to be the bridge. They really like mon Tere Brown,
23:23
Speaker 1: Buster Brown. He's gonna be that bridge. He's gonna be
23:25
Speaker 1: that guy until Brown. If he can step in and
23:27
Speaker 1: play ten games, if that's what they need the rest
23:29
Speaker 1: of the year, or six games until he's ready to
23:31
Speaker 1: go late in the year. Uh, then he'll be a
23:34
Speaker 1: really important part in the in this franchise. Absolutely might,
23:36
Speaker 1: he will, he will, he might. It is Travis ey
23:38
Speaker 1: ten like John just said, Tray hern and being the
23:40
Speaker 1: guy on defense. This is now the guy on offense.
23:42
Speaker 1: He always was the guy. James Robinson's trade confirms this
23:45
Speaker 1: is the guy at running back in Yeah, he's a number.
23:47
Speaker 1: He's the first round draft pick. He was drafted to
23:50
Speaker 1: be the guy. I loved his honesty yesterday in the
23:53
Speaker 1: locker room. I loved how he was polite and said
23:55
Speaker 1: James as his friend. He wishes him well, but he
23:57
Speaker 1: does not want to eat off someone's play anymore. He
24:01
Speaker 1: is a competitor. He wants to be the guy. He
24:03
Speaker 1: will be the guy. He won't shock you now with
24:05
Speaker 1: the amounts of carries he gets in the game or
24:08
Speaker 1: the amount he is in the game. He is a
24:09
Speaker 1: guy that is there for key moments and no one
24:12
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say no when someone will now go count
24:15
Speaker 1: Travis E. Tns carries to Hastis carries to Snoo Connor's carries.
24:19
Speaker 1: We don't need to count carries anymore because he's not
24:22
Speaker 1: gonna shock you with the amount of carries he gets.
24:24
Speaker 1: This isn't that offense, and we have to stop counting carries.
24:27
Speaker 1: He might get a touchdown this week because I think
24:29
Speaker 1: this is just the week where Travis c t N.
24:31
Speaker 1: Everyone was so upset about the James Robinson departure. Fans
24:34
Speaker 1: were if Travis c t N gets a touchdown on Sunday,
24:37
Speaker 1: you're feeling much better about the trade and it's all
24:39
Speaker 1: going to make sense on Sunday. Yep. I don't think
24:42
Speaker 1: fans were mad at Travis necessary I know what you're saying.
24:45
Speaker 1: If he can score, if he can show that he's
24:49
Speaker 1: that reliable guy. Um yeah. I think I think fans
24:54
Speaker 1: overall will come to understand the trade over time as
24:58
Speaker 1: they see these two guys careers play out more than anything,
25:01
Speaker 1: and just this reminder that James Robinson's a nice player.
25:04
Speaker 1: He's not Fred Taylor. It's not like they traded a
25:05
Speaker 1: franchise player, right, They traded a guy who had been
25:09
Speaker 1: important around here. But now when you draft running back
25:12
Speaker 1: in the first round, it's his job. He needs to
25:14
Speaker 1: be the guy. Yeah, it's it's his job this week,
25:17
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars get ready to fly to London this afternoon,
25:44
Speaker 1: we are predicting the outcome of sunday Mornings game. Brian,
25:47
Speaker 1: what are you thinking? Johnny want to tell her who
25:48
Speaker 1: the Pet Shop Boys were? It's a band, right, yeah,
25:52
Speaker 1: trying to play off the show of West End Boys, right.
25:56
Speaker 1: Wembley is not in London's West End, but it's Western Facity,
25:59
Speaker 1: so it's kind of a playoff of uh and I
26:01
Speaker 1: say that the Jaguars, who are the team of record
26:04
Speaker 1: over there, they play a game every year. Um and
26:07
Speaker 1: And there's an interview in Sunday's third hour of pre
26:11
Speaker 1: game with Henry Hodgins, who's the new CEO of NFL Europe, UM,
26:16
Speaker 1: who talks about the Jaguars decision to play over there
26:18
Speaker 1: and how important it is. UM so that the West
26:21
Speaker 1: End Boys this week in the exclamation point meant yeah,
26:24
Speaker 1: I like it. It's thinking, uh, mine is actually uh
26:30
Speaker 1: not very London oriented close no more, because I think
26:33
Speaker 1: they do it this week and I'm not sure I've
26:36
Speaker 1: predicted them to win yet this year, just for different circumstances. Well,
26:42
Speaker 1: in the last two or three weeks, it's been because
26:44
Speaker 1: I had not seen them win a close game. You
26:45
Speaker 1: were right, and I thought they're gonna be close games.
26:46
Speaker 1: I was right. Um, But I think this week There's
26:52
Speaker 1: been years in London where all of a sudden they've
26:54
Speaker 1: come out and just played different in London. I think
26:57
Speaker 1: those weeks are over. I mean, I think those games
26:59
Speaker 1: are over. I don't think Lennon is going to be
27:00
Speaker 1: an advantage for this team anymore. Any teams are figuring,
27:04
Speaker 1: but I just feel like they've been close and this breakthrough.
27:09
Speaker 1: The Broncos are not playing particularly well. The Jaguars, I
27:12
Speaker 1: think they're going to get up and I think they're
27:14
Speaker 1: going to get a turnover early and get ahead. And
27:17
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure. I'm not picking a blowout. I
27:21
Speaker 1: think the Broncos are really good defensively, but I think
27:23
Speaker 1: the Jaguars can get up, can get an advantage and
27:26
Speaker 1: maintain it through the end and maybe maybe have it
27:29
Speaker 1: be a feel good margin eight four most of the
27:33
Speaker 1: game refect, they're in control, and if they do, we'll
27:36
Speaker 1: be talking about the defense because the offense will set
27:39
Speaker 1: the defense up right. They'll be able to be that attacking, uh,
27:43
Speaker 1: intercepting defense with a lead, but the team can sit
27:46
Speaker 1: and pound at him as we've seen the last couple
27:48
Speaker 1: of weeks. Yeah, that's not as good. I've been told.
27:51
Speaker 1: The song is West End Girls, right, so you understand
27:55
Speaker 1: why I changed their boys not girls. Interesting. No, it's
28:00
Speaker 1: not interesting their boards. My title is going to be
28:03
Speaker 1: made the play because I think, like we talked about
28:05
Speaker 1: on defense, it has to be the defense this week.
28:07
Speaker 1: They have not shown up. They have not made the
28:09
Speaker 1: key play when it matters. I believe they will on
28:12
Speaker 1: Sunday against the Broncos. It just it has to be
28:14
Speaker 1: the defense this week. Of course, you want the offense
28:16
Speaker 1: to do well with the way the defense has played
28:19
Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks. You need to see them
28:20
Speaker 1: show up and make a play when it matters most.
28:23
Speaker 1: You like it, I like it all right, let's do it.
28:25
Speaker 1: So the Jaguars playing against the Broncos Sunday morning in London.
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Speaker 1: We will be back next Wednesday. Cannot do a show
28:30
Speaker 1: Monday morning. We will be very sleepy coming back from London.
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