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Parking wars in the complex… who does the visitors parking belong to? · Anele and the Club on 947

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  Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang. Hey, wake up! Anele and
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  Speaker 1: the club on 947.
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  Speaker 2: And if you've never been involved in something like this,
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  Speaker 2: you've at least been privy to, um, it's not a debate,
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  Speaker 2: an altercation.
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  Speaker 1: An altercation like this.
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  Speaker 2: Because not everybody lives in standalone houses.
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  Speaker 1: You live in a complex, Frankie?
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: I live in a complex. Tim McGillis, you live in
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  Speaker 2: a complex? Cindy's the only one amongst us who's just like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't have none of those problems.
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  Speaker 1: Because complex living is complex.
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  Speaker 2: There are three things that you will always get into
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  Speaker 2: a dispute about when it comes to shared spaces like
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  Speaker 2: an estate or a.
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  Speaker 1: Complex or whatever it is, right? One of them is noise.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Always.
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  Speaker 5: Everyone's got an issue.
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  Speaker 2: Always there's going to be a noise complaint. The other
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  Speaker 2: one is pets.
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  Speaker 4: Always.
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  Speaker 6: Even if the complex does allow pets, there's always someone's
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  Speaker 6: pets loose or it's in my garden or it's getting
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  Speaker 6: to my house at night if it's a cat, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: The third one, and I don't want to say it's
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  Speaker 2: the least mentioned one because it's definitely a vital dispute
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  Speaker 2: that happens in shared spaces, is parking.
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  Speaker 6: This is big. I've seen people get really, really angry
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  Speaker 6: about this. Really angry about this.
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  Speaker 1: Because there are some of us who are living amongst
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  Speaker 1: us who feel that the visitor's parking is theirs.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Well.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 2: Well.
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  Speaker 1: What do you mean well?
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  Speaker 6: What is your question about the visitor's parking?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so we intercepted a voice note, a tenant sending
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  Speaker 2: this to their landlord, very upset about the situation in
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  Speaker 2: her complex around the visitor's parking.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, I'm very f * * * ed off right now.
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  Speaker 3: Every Friday when we come home, the lady at number 10,
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  Speaker 3: her parking is empty, but she will park her vehicle
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  Speaker 3: in the visitor's parking where my husband parks.
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  Speaker 1: Every f * * *. weekend when her.
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  Speaker 3: Man is coming right now her parking.
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  Speaker 1: Is empty we must park.
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  Speaker 3: A company vehicle at the gate because she doesn't give
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  Speaker 3: a about anybody she's swearing at performing this is not
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  Speaker 3: what i paid rent for she's taking a visitor's parking
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  Speaker 3: so i have all the right not to go park
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  Speaker 3: in her pocket because her parking bay is empty but
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  Speaker 3: we won't do that.
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  Speaker 1: Because we know that you got to respect people.
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  Speaker 3: And the security guard is just casual about.
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  Speaker 1: It this is a Circus.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, she's hot. She's upset. But the thing is, they
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  Speaker 1: both wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: They're both wrong. Guys, no one is entitled to the
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  Speaker 1: visitor's parking. It's first come, first serve.
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  Speaker 2: And this lady, the reason she's blocking the visitor's parking
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  Speaker 2: and leaving hers open is because she knows that your
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  Speaker 2: husband is parking her company car, well, his company car
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  Speaker 2: in the visitor's parking. So game recognizes game. You can
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  Speaker 2: be hot and bothered all you like and throw all
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  Speaker 2: the swear words.
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  Speaker 1: You're wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, the visitor's parking belongs to the person who first
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  Speaker 2: gets there. And the thing is, when you get so
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  Speaker 2: used to being the only one who uses it, then
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  Speaker 2: you start thinking that it's yours.
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  Speaker 1: It's not yours. It belongs to the entire estate.
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  Speaker 6: I think you missed it there because the visitor's parking
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  Speaker 6: is in the name. Visitor. These are both tenants trying
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  Speaker 6: to park on the visitor's spot. That lady must park
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  Speaker 6: in her own house and both of them. Both of them.
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  Speaker 6: Park in your own house. If you have too many cars,
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  Speaker 6: that's your issue. The visitor's parking should be for visitors
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  Speaker 6: when they come during the weekend.
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  Speaker 4: So if I understood her frustration … She was saying
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  Speaker 4: that that lady is parking in the visitor's parking, but her.
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  Speaker 1: Own spot is open.
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  Speaker 7: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's the problem.
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  Speaker 4: So if her own spot was occupied and she was
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  Speaker 4: parking in the visitor's parking, I would say, okay, cool.
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  Speaker 4: But because she's using the visitor's parking and parking her
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  Speaker 4: car there, maybe it's closer to the apartment so that
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  Speaker 4: maybe her boyfriend can then park in her parking.
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  Speaker 1: She's reserving.
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  Speaker 4: Guys, visitors first come, first serve.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't belong to anybody.
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  Speaker 4: Even if it is at your front door, that visitor's
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  Speaker 4: parking doesn't belong to you. It belongs to your neighbor upstairs,
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  Speaker 4: whoever comes first.
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  Speaker 1: That's another thing.
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  Speaker 2: We used to have an issue when I stayed in
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  Speaker 2: a summer con. There was a lady because the visitor's
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  Speaker 2: parking was right in front of her gate. You know,
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  Speaker 2: like that set up where it's sort of your gate.
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  Speaker 2: It's the gate that goes into your garden, into your unit.
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  Speaker 2: Then she felt like that's her. So she would park
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  Speaker 2: there to take her groceries out and never move her car.
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  Speaker 1: So when we have visitors, now we have to go there. Coco,
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  Speaker 1: can you please move your car to your parking? And
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  Speaker 1: then she'd be like, no, just park in my parking.
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  Speaker 1: What's the problem? But also, you can't do that because
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  Speaker 1: that's an assumption on my part.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I mean, this is the issue with these
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  Speaker 6: complexes is that you have so many parkings assigned to
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  Speaker 6: each house, right? And then obviously the visitors parking. There's
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  Speaker 6: never enough visitors parking. There's no way for them to
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  Speaker 6: do that, right? Otherwise, you'd have one extra parking. But
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  Speaker 6: the issue is you pay for the– when you buy
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  Speaker 6: your flat or whatever, you buy the parking with it.
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  Speaker 1: No, but it– no.
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  Speaker 6: So many– I lived in Centurion, and that was our issue.
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  Speaker 6: We had one garage but two cars. And because there
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  Speaker 6: was only one garage for our little house. So then
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  Speaker 6: what must I do with my other vehicle? It parks
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  Speaker 6: in the– Visitors parking.
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  Speaker 4: But they don't specify which visitors parking. They say you
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  Speaker 4: are entitled. It comes with visitors parking.
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  Speaker 1: Whichever is available.
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  Speaker 6: It doesn't mean that it's right, the one outside your door.
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  Speaker 8: Because guys, unfortunately, I mean, raging Meryl, unless it's got
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  Speaker 8: your name on it, it's not yours.
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  Speaker 6: Do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 8: But also if you and your husband live together and
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  Speaker 8: you know you've got two cars, you're supposed to communicate
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  Speaker 8: this upfront moving in that we will need two bays.
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  Speaker 8: Because I don't see how two people who have two vehicles...
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  Speaker 8: would move into a place without a parking arrangement sorted out.
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  Speaker 8: It's on you, babes. I could park a Vespa there
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  Speaker 8: that I don't use. if I want to, just to
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  Speaker 8: mess with you because ultimately, visitors parking is for all
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  Speaker 8: of us.
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  Speaker 4: Imagine your little scooter taking up a whole space.
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  Speaker 1: Never.
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  Speaker 2: 011-8838-947, what are the parking wars currently happening in your estate?
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  Speaker 2: What are the parking wars that you have been part of?
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  Speaker 2: Because it's a.
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  Speaker 1: Slow cold war, hey? And it's like, it's passive aggressive.
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  Speaker 1: It's passive, it's slow. And then it erupts and then
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  Speaker 1: this happens.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, I'm very f * * * ed off right now.
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  Speaker 3: Every Friday when we come home, the lady at number 10,
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  Speaker 3: her parking is empty, but she will park her vehicle
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  Speaker 3: in the visitor's parking where my husband parks. Every f * * *
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  Speaker 3: ing weekend when her man is coming. Right now, her
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  Speaker 3: parking is empty. We must park a company vehicle at
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  Speaker 3: the gate because she doesn't give a f * * *
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  Speaker 3: about anybody. She's swearing and performing. This is not what
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  Speaker 3: I paid rent for.
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  Speaker 1: She's taken a visitor's parking.
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  Speaker 3: So I have all the right not to go park
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  Speaker 3: in her parking because her parking bay is empty. But
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  Speaker 3: we won't do that because we know that you've got
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  Speaker 3: to respect people. And the security guard is just casual
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  Speaker 3: about it.
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  Speaker 1: This is a circus.
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  Speaker 8: By the way, if you park in someone's assigned parking,
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  Speaker 8: they'll clamp you and that will really push you over
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  Speaker 8: the edge. The only thing I think should not be
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  Speaker 8: allowed in complexes is when your neighbor who's holding onto
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  Speaker 8: a car that hasn't moved in six months wants to
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  Speaker 8: use the visitor's parking as a scrapyard.
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  Speaker 2: That's where I draw the line.
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  Speaker 4: 011-8838-947.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking parking wars.
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  Speaker 2: You're more than welcome to bring the work parking wars
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  Speaker 2: into the situation as well here because y'all know, especially
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  Speaker 2: you bankers there in downtown Johannesburg, you guys know you're
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  Speaker 2: fighting each other for parking. Now you're there to work
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  Speaker 2: at four in the morning because you want to be
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  Speaker 2: there first.
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  Speaker 6: It's my right. It's my parking. It's this, it's this,
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  Speaker 6: it's this.
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  Speaker 1: Parking war galore. Let's talk about, ooh, I like that.
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  Speaker 1: Parking war galore. 084-00-00947 if you're sending us a voice note.
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  Speaker 2: Let us know, firstly, who's in the wrong in this
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  Speaker 2: voice note, this heated voice note that we're playing you.
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  Speaker 2: And then, if you've got any other parking stories about
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  Speaker 2: your life, teach us the parking lot warfare routine. At
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  Speaker 2: our estate, we have one apartment that has like seven vehicles, and.
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  Speaker 1: They take up all the visitors' parking, which is very frustrating.
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  Speaker 4: If her man is a visitor and is visiting on
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  Speaker 4: a Friday, then they are entitled to the visitors' parking.
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  Speaker 1: First come, first served. That lady is very upset.
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  Speaker 3: But also, how many visitors' parking does that complex have?
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  Speaker 3: Only one.
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  Speaker 9: I'm in perimenopause. I am too old for this. So
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  Speaker 9: let me just stay in my freestanding yard house. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 9: I will not be able to handle it, honestly.
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  Speaker 6: No complex has enough visitors parking.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, because it's impractical. How much visitors parking is too
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  Speaker 2: much or too little. Exactly. Because like that lady who
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  Speaker 2: says in our complex, there's a house that's got seven cars.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: I really believe that you should have moved on to
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  Speaker 2: the next level of life now. Maybe you're a standalone
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  Speaker 2: or in a state where there's a street where all
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  Speaker 2: of these cars can be parked. You can't be living
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  Speaker 2: in a two bedroom summer con with seven cars.
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  Speaker 1: I'm calling the cops. Running a dealership in a complex.
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  Speaker 8: No, no.
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  Speaker 1: I'm calling the cops.
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  Speaker 6: Well, that's why so many places require you to pay
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  Speaker 6: for your parking bay.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: For your cars. So that you don't have these issues.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to Jermiston. Ivy, good morning.
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  Speaker 5: Good morning.
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  Speaker 9: How are you guys?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, you're so well-spoken.
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  Speaker 1: So soft-spoken.
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  Speaker 4: Good morning.
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  Speaker 6: My neighbors disagree.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Ivy, let's hear your story before I tell people
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  Speaker 2: that you're such a sweet lady.
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  Speaker 1: What's your story?
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. So this bothered me enough to call into
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  Speaker 3: the radio for the very first time.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, Ivy, are we on speaker?
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  Speaker 3: I'm in the car.
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  Speaker 1: That's much better. Whatever you did there. That's nice. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So this bothered you enough for you to call into
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  Speaker 2: the radio for the very first time?
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  Speaker 5: For the very first time.
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  Speaker 7: I don't even live in a complex.
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  Speaker 3: But the lady who's angry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Why is she angry?
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  Speaker 3: The parking is not her husband's company parking.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So the lady at number 10 knows that there's somebody
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  Speaker 3: who decided there was a parking for her husband.
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  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 7: Actual visitor because now you know yeah no because now.
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  Speaker 3: Because now there's no business packing because it's now a
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  Speaker 3: company packing for her husband But.
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  Speaker 6: In the same vein, it is not that lady's parking
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  Speaker 6: is taking the visitor's parking. She is not a visitor.
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  Speaker 6: She has her own parking.
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  Speaker 2: No, but I'm on Ivy's side here. It's just that
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the complex is so used to you
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  Speaker 2: guys being entitled to the visitor's parking. And why is
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  Speaker 2: your husband's car more special? Because it's a company car.
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  Speaker 1: Not a company car. The company car can stay at
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  Speaker 1: the company.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: And you can Uber home. Yes.
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  Speaker 6: It's an unspoken rule, guys. That's where he parks. Now
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  Speaker 6: on the weekend because now you got a new man.
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  Speaker 2: So Tina, we can't have visitors, Tina, because when you
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  Speaker 2: guys took the company, the company car.
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  Speaker 1: Must use the parking.
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  Speaker 6: It's never been an issue.
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  Speaker 1: And now it must park at the gate. Yes, you're right.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that it's never been an issue doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: that it's never been wrong.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not saying that. I'm just saying it's never been
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  Speaker 6: an issue until you got a man.
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  Speaker 1: Frankie, you're defending the indefensible.
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  Speaker 6: No, I know what this is like because, like I said,
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  Speaker 6: I lived in a complex where this was a huge issue.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you were the one with the extra car.
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  Speaker 6: I was, but there were lots of people with extra cars.
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  Speaker 6: And then we sort of had an unspoken arrangement about
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  Speaker 6: who's parking where on the visitor's side.
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  Speaker 2: The thing about unspoken arrangements is they can change at
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  Speaker 2: any time because they're not law. Yeah. And now this
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  Speaker 2: is why this lady, just listen to how aggravated she is.
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  Speaker 2: This is a person who's used to getting her way
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  Speaker 2: and nobody questioning her about the visitor's parking.
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  Speaker 3: Hi, I'm very f * * * ed off right now.
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  Speaker 3: Every Friday when we come home, the lady at number 10,
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  Speaker 3: her parking is empty, but she will park her vehicle
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  Speaker 3: in the visitor's parking where my husband parks.
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  Speaker 1: Every f * * *. weekend when her.
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  Speaker 3: Man is coming right now her parking is empty we
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  Speaker 3: must park a company vehicle at the gate because she
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  Speaker 3: doesn't give a about anybody she's swearing at performing this
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  Speaker 3: is not what i paid rent for she's taking a
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  Speaker 3: visitor's parking so i have all the right now to
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  Speaker 3: go park in her parking because her parking bay is
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  Speaker 3: empty but we won't do that because we know that
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  Speaker 3: you got to respect people and the security guard is
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  Speaker 3: just casual about it this is a Circus.
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  Speaker 2: And she says every Friday, which means during the week,
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  Speaker 2: they let you and her park your company car there.
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  Speaker 1: That's the problem here.
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  Speaker 2: We got you used to you thinking that that's your parking.
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  Speaker 1: And then on Friday, when we have visitors, what do
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  Speaker 1: we do? We take the visitors parking. No, but this
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  Speaker 1: is the thing.
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  Speaker 6: We all live here.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. That's what we must all share.
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  Speaker 6: No, the man, he doesn't live here. He comes and
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  Speaker 6: visits on a Friday.
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  Speaker 1: The company car doesn't live here as well. The poor
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  Speaker 1: security guard. Poor Jabu.
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  Speaker 4: He's just sitting there like, I'm just supposed to watch
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  Speaker 4: the car there. I'm not supposed to actually monitor where
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  Speaker 4: they parked.
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  Speaker 2: He's casual about it.
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  Speaker 3: 011-8838-947.
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  Speaker 2: We're catching one side of the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: Here, obviously, right? And also, if you are the other
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  Speaker 1: lady and you're listening... call us and give us your.
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  Speaker 2: Side of the story we're dying to know 011-8838-947 or
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  Speaker 2: just be a nosy poker like we are okay and
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  Speaker 2: just stick your nose in the situation who do you
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  Speaker 2: think is right and have you had a parking war
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  Speaker 2: with someone.
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  Speaker 1: Around something similar to this, be it where you live,
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  Speaker 1: be it at your work.
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  Speaker 6: I'm telling you right now, right now there are a
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  Speaker 6: thousand visitor parking wars happening in complexes across this, across Scouting.
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  Speaker 6: I'm telling you right now.
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  Speaker 5: Everyone has a story.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, we want to know.
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  Speaker 2: 084-00-00947.
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  Speaker 1: Don't worry, we'll block the swear words out. Hi, I'm
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  Speaker 1: really f * * * ed off right now.
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  Speaker 3: Every Friday when we come home, the lady at number 10,
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  Speaker 3: her parking is empty, but she will park her vehicle
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  Speaker 3: in the visitor's parking where my husband parks.
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  Speaker 1: Every f * * * ing weekend when her man
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  Speaker 1: is coming. Right now, her parking is empty.
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  Speaker 3: We must park a company vehicle at the gate because
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  Speaker 3: she doesn't give a f * * * about anybody.
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  Speaker 3: She's swearing at performing. This is not what I paid
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  Speaker 3: rent for. She's taking a visitor's parking, so I have
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  Speaker 3: all the right now to go park in her parking
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  Speaker 3: because her parking bay is empty. But we won't do
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  Speaker 3: that because we know that you've got to respect people.
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  Speaker 3: And the security guard is just casual about it. This
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  Speaker 3: is a f * * * ing circus.
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  Speaker 8: My neighbor, for some reason, because I only drive one
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  Speaker 8: car and we've got two bays each, feels entitled from
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  Speaker 8: time to time to use my second bay for no reason.
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  Speaker 1: The voice not lady is wrong. She is wrong.
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  Speaker 9: Because maybe the other lady took that spot because when
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  Speaker 9: they have visitors, their business cars are always parked there.
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  Speaker 1: The lady on that voice note is actually the entitled one.
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  Speaker 3: Because what makes them so special that her husband's company's
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: vehicle must be parked on a visitor's parking, then anyone
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: else can use that parking.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: We're going to Randburg. Good morning, Wesley.
• 14:46
  Speaker 7: Good morning, how are you guys doing?
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: We are heated here on our side.
• 14:50
  Speaker 7: It's a bit hot and a little bit chilly in
• 14:53
  Speaker 7: Randberg right now. I see.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, so in Randberg, what do you guys do with
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: the parking laws?
• 14:59
  Speaker 7: Okay, so we had an incident at my complex. So
• 15:03
  Speaker 7: me and my girlfriend own the flat that we stay
• 15:06
  Speaker 7: in and it's a one and a half bedroom. So
• 15:11
  Speaker 7: each one and a half bedroom has one designated parking
• 15:14
  Speaker 7: bay and the two bedrooms has two designated parking bays.
• 15:18
  Speaker 7: But we had an incident where we suspected a tenant
• 15:24
  Speaker 7: that was complaining. So my girlfriend uses the designated parking
• 15:29
  Speaker 7: and I use one of the visitors. So in our
• 15:32
  Speaker 7: title deed, it says that we are allowed to have
• 15:34
  Speaker 7: two vehicles if you've got a one and a half bedroom.
• 15:38
  Speaker 7: You're allowed two vehicles. But when you use a parking
• 15:41
  Speaker 7: bay that's not assigned to you because you don't have
• 15:44
  Speaker 7: any other one, you get people complain about it. And
• 15:49
  Speaker 7: the landlord is on their side about it, which doesn't
• 15:53
  Speaker 7: make sense.
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: But you have this in your contract.
• 15:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's in our contract that we allow to use
• 16:00
  Speaker 7: any other bay as long as it's not one of
• 16:02
  Speaker 7: the other tenants. Oh, okay.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: This is now tricky. And when you've told.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: The other people who are complaining, maybe at the home
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: associations meeting, you bring it up and you bring your
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: title deed and say, guys, we are following what is
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: written down here.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: What do people say?
• 16:21
  Speaker 7: Honestly, we don't complain to the tenants. We associate straight
• 16:26
  Speaker 7: with the homeowners association. But she's just as useless because
• 16:30
  Speaker 7: she contradicts herself. In her emails, she fully contradicts herself.
• 16:35
  Speaker 7: So even my girlfriend would chat straight to her because
• 16:37
  Speaker 7: I have a bit of a short temper, I'll swear.
• 16:40
  Speaker 7: But it's a bit ridiculous because how can you tell
• 16:43
  Speaker 7: us that we allowed another vehicle, but we don't have
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: a designated bay? And you complain when we use a
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: different bay.
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: That's it.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: And is there only one parking bay? Are you not
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: doing like a round-robin?
• 16:55
  Speaker 7: No, just one.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I use one.
• 16:58
  Speaker 7: It's straight ahead from the flat where I stay, and
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: it's a visitor's. But they complain that I use it.
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: But you use it every day, right? So, I mean,
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: you're parking there every day.
• 17:09
  Speaker 7: Not every day. Sometimes I'll use a different parking, whichever
• 17:12
  Speaker 7: one is available. It got so bad that one of
• 17:15
  Speaker 7: my neighbors, he's also got two cars and he's got
• 17:18
  Speaker 7: two bays. But he usually doesn't have his other vehicle.
• 17:21
  Speaker 7: So he tells me I can just use his parking bay.
• 17:24
  Speaker 7: Just to avoid the drama.
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: And I was about to say, it just, it's not
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: nice living because now there's this like heavy tension that's
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: constantly hanging around you guys when it comes to that way.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: It's supposed to be a peaceful place. Do you know
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: what I would do?
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I would print the title deed that says that you
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: guys are allowed to.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Use it, right?
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: And then print, how many units are in your complex?
• 17:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, over 100. I think there's almost 200 units.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Take the money, print 200.
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Laminate it and then slip it under everyone's door and
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: just write that this is from unit number 11 regarding
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: the parking situation because everybody must read it because here's
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: the thing not everyone has all the information at hand
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: all they have is the emotion that makes them feel
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: like you are double dipping right so as long as
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: everyone reads it and then they've got all the information
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: on their side then you are no longer responsible for
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: how they feel about it afterwards but you have to
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: make sure that everybody knows what the deal was that
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: you signed up for Yeah, which.
• 18:23
  Speaker 7: Also doesn't make sense because there's like three vehicles that's
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: standing in visitors parking. And when I asked the security
• 18:29
  Speaker 7: about it, they said, no, those cars has been standing
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: there for years.
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you see.
• 18:33
  Speaker 7: Nobody's complained about it.
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: But this is the issue.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: That's the issue.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: And I feel sorry for you.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you always go for the moving bird. No
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: one cares for the thing that's standing still.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: It's the moving one.
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: I feel sorry for you, Wesley, because you have to
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: get home every day and drive around like you're at
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: the mall trying to find an open parking. That's terrible.
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: You have no idea because the flight of stairs, it's
• 18:54
  Speaker 7: also so high going up to where my unit is
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: and you get tired of it. Your legs are sore,
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: you come home, your back is sore, everything is just
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: sore because you have to walk all the way from
• 19:05
  Speaker 7: Durban back to Germany.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: You're fighting your boss, you're fighting your colleagues, you're fighting
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: your neighbours.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Let's speak to the chairperson of the Gauteng Rental Housing Tribunal.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: We've spoken to him before. He's helped us out in
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: situations like this. His name is advocate Emmanuel Masombu.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Welcome back, sir.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: Good morning, everyone. How is everyone doing?
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: We are fantastic. How are you?
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: I'm good.
• 19:26
  Speaker 8: I'm good.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: All right. Talk to us. In this situation, who's in
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: the right? Who's in the wrong? What's the way forward?
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: Look, as I always say, the starting point is to
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: always look at the guiding documents. Firstly, would be the
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: lease agreement in the case of tenants and landlord relationship.
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: And I'm alive to the fact that most lease agreements
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: don't even refer to the house rules or don't. even
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: incorporate the house rules. But by operation of law, the
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: house rules are incorporated into each and every single lease agreement.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: So for example, dealing with issues relating to noise, fires,
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: and also the issues of parking. Ordinarily, if there's a
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: dispute in relation to the issues of parking and house rules,
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: the proper forum to approach would be CSOS, which is
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: the Community Schemes Ombuds Services, which is basically similar to
• 20:26
  Speaker 5: the Rental Housing Tribunal, but within the context of homeowners
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: and the homeowners association rules. But not to say that
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: if a tenant has a dispute, they're not welcome to
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: approach the tribunal. I mean, in terms of the fairness
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: of the charge, the penalty, we do still have jurisdiction
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: to adjudicate over such disputes.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: This is a long story, Advocate Masomboga.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: From you personally, you listen to that voice, you listen
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: to the situation.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Who's in the right? Who's in the wrong?
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: No one is on the right side, no one is
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: on the wrong side. I can tell you because it
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: does appear that the person that's complaining, the lady that's complaining,
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: also seems to assert some form of entitlement towards a
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: visitor's parking pay, which she doesn't. Ultimately, it is the
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: visitor's parking pay and they just need to look at
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: what the house rules say. I mean, some house rules
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: will say that If you're entitled to park the visitors
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: for X amount of hours, if there's a breach, for example,
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: if they parked over seven hours, then you can refer
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: the dispute.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: And so what's happening here is because there's wrong behavior
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: being done by the lady in the voice note, this
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: other lady is responding with her own wrong behavior because
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: there's no ways you can go park your car in
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: visitors and leave your own parking bay open, saving it
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: for later, right?
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: Because it's a first-come, first-served thing.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: But because we're so used to you parking your husband's company.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Cars there, we now.
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: We have to.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Because now everything has been breached. You breached the rules,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: so therefore now there are no rules. So it's the wild,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: wild west.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: This is going to... It's going to come to a boil, basically.
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: Yes, of course, of course. I mean, it has already
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: come to a boil.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you can hear it.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, no.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I think my ladies are only just beginning.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I think my ladies are only just starting.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Advocate Emmanuel Masomboga, chairperson of the Gauteng Rental Housing Tribunal.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Guys, there are rules, hey?
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: There are rules that you can literally show people and
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: be like, well, this is the law.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: And these are the rules, okay?
• 22:32
  Speaker 6: And I like that he is the arbitrator. So if
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: you're having issues with your... Because a lot of people
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: will say my homeowners association... as against me. If you're
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: having issues there, you can go there.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: He's the ombudsman for it. There could be 228 units
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: against you and just one advocate Masomboga and you'll win.