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- 0:00Speaker 1: I heard we got good times going on in the building.
- 0:01Speaker 1: Is that right? Power situation is not resolved, is that right?
- 0:05Speaker 2: Yes, the generator is very loud and we have a
- 0:08Speaker 2: very strong one which allows us to be on the
- 0:10Speaker 2: air right now.
- 0:11Speaker 1: But so I picked a good day to be on
- 0:13Speaker 1: a remote at the thirty two.
- 0:16Speaker 2: It helps, It helps, and you're gonna get Kenny's going
- 0:18Speaker 2: to give you a great lunch too, and I'm very jealous.
- 0:21Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to that. We'll see what,
- 0:24Speaker 1: we'll see what Kenny's going to fire on our way
- 0:26Speaker 1: in a little bit. We'll get some food going on,
- 0:28Speaker 1: so which I love. And then tomorrow, the next two
- 0:30Speaker 1: days will be the Virginia Mason Athletics Center, So I'll
- 0:33Speaker 1: see maybe by next Monday the building will be fixed. Maybe.
- 0:37Speaker 3: No, that's above our pay grades. So yeah, we are.
- 0:42Speaker 2: We are very much hoping that it will be and
- 0:45Speaker 2: you know, place to go to a show man. We're
- 0:47Speaker 2: going to be at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center the
- 0:49Speaker 2: next few days anyway, because we got drafted.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Well listen, if it's not fixed by monday, Kenny, can
- 0:54Speaker 1: I come back your Monday. Our building's got issues. Can
- 0:57Speaker 1: I come back your Monday. Nothing can I come back.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Our building's got power issues. Okay, I'll just be back here.
- 1:05Speaker 4: He's completely serious to he doesn't know that, like you're
- 1:08Speaker 4: kind of just playing it off, right.
- 1:09Speaker 1: No, he's because I'll come out here, tell people to
- 1:11Speaker 1: come out to hit me out thirty two try the
- 1:13Speaker 1: pizza fantastic. By the way, they got good specials during
- 1:15Speaker 1: the NHL playoff game. So yeah, all right, well I
- 1:17Speaker 1: got a home you guys, sorry, I'd bring you with me,
- 1:20Speaker 1: but someone's got to be back there Tor on the show,
- 1:21Speaker 1: So yeah, where you go. All right, let's touch in
- 1:24Speaker 1: our baseball team real fast? Shall we? Shall we do that?
- 1:26Speaker 1: Why I thought the highlight for me was seeing the
- 1:32Speaker 1: story this morning Adam Jude did on Ryan Healy and
- 1:36Speaker 1: I and I say that with all sincerity because we've
- 1:38Speaker 1: had Ryan on not we He's been in the morning
- 1:42Speaker 1: morning show for a while now, towards the end of
- 1:45Speaker 1: last season, going through the playoffs, right, and remember the
- 1:47Speaker 1: first time I heard his voice, and with Bucky and
- 1:50Speaker 1: with Chuck, I'm like, Damn, this guy's good. He's really good,
- 1:53Speaker 1: like really good. And then I'm like, I wonder how
- 1:55Speaker 1: he's gonna sound on. You know if he did, like
- 1:57Speaker 1: actual brock up really good, really good, like has a
- 2:02Speaker 1: great rapport with Goldie. I like that. That to me
- 2:06Speaker 1: has been the highlight the last two nights. Yeah, because
- 2:09Speaker 1: the baseball has not been a highlight. I and and
- 2:11Speaker 1: good for Ryan, good for the Marris. I mean, I
- 2:13Speaker 1: think it's gotta be be honest with you. It's probably
- 2:15Speaker 1: a little hard on Goldie. He's got how many they have,
- 2:18Speaker 1: They've got Valley, Angie, Ryan, Roland Smith, Healey and occasionally,
- 2:26Speaker 1: well they're all occasionally. Yeah, one's so five different. That's
- 2:30Speaker 1: a lot, man, that's hard. Yeah, Goldie is a pro though.
- 2:33Speaker 1: That's why he's a Sportscaster of the Year. The guy's
- 2:35Speaker 1: an absolute pro. He's just a great job. But Ryan Heally, man,
- 2:37Speaker 1: I note to the Mariners, use him more, use him more.
- 2:40Speaker 1: And that's not it. That's not a slight on anybody
- 2:42Speaker 1: else on the broadcast at all. I'm not I'm not
- 2:44Speaker 1: trying to do that by any means. I'm just saying
- 2:46Speaker 1: that Ryan Healey is really good and I'm glad he's
- 2:48Speaker 1: part of our station doing stuff with with our morning show.
- 2:50Speaker 1: So that's the highlight. The low light is the fact
- 2:53Speaker 1: that you just lost a series of the a's. And
- 2:56Speaker 1: I thought Goldie last night, oh my god, he was Yeah, like,
- 3:02Speaker 1: he's been there long enough now and has established himself
- 3:07Speaker 1: well enough now that he can kind of pull off
- 3:10Speaker 1: the Dave Knee house. Foresland does this as well. You
- 3:15Speaker 1: got like you can say what you really think, and honestly,
- 3:18Speaker 1: what you can say is also what fans are thinking exactly.
- 3:21Speaker 1: And they lost to a guy last night that throws
- 3:24Speaker 1: about as fast as Benton's kid does up in the
- 3:26Speaker 1: Evert Little League. Okay, so like and and how do
- 3:31Speaker 1: I know that? Because Goldie said it about one hundred times. Yeah,
- 3:35Speaker 1: that they lost to that guy was.
- 3:37Speaker 4: One of the highest walk rates in baseball and has
- 3:39Speaker 4: not had a start this year. That that where he
- 3:42Speaker 4: gave up less than three walks and he gave up
- 3:44Speaker 4: to yesterday.
- 3:45Speaker 1: Is that bad?
- 3:46Speaker 4: That's pretty bad, I'd say, I'm just checking.
- 3:48Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just I'm That's why I'm asking
- 3:50Speaker 1: the question, because it just doesn't seem optimum at all. Listen,
- 3:55Speaker 1: it's a frustrating start. Ten to fifteen is what it is.
- 3:58Speaker 1: It just it's at some point, though, you got to
- 4:02Speaker 1: turn this damn thing around and and if and I
- 4:05Speaker 1: guess maybe at some point what you've got to do
- 4:08Speaker 1: is you've got to show something and a little sign
- 4:11Speaker 1: of life. I think they I don't know if they
- 4:14Speaker 1: fall into a trap of this or not, but I'm
- 4:16Speaker 1: gonna just throw out a general assessment. It doesn't feel
- 4:20Speaker 1: if because they go through this every year. It feels
- 4:24Speaker 1: like there's like no sense of urgency. It's like, oh,
- 4:27Speaker 1: here we go again. We're fine, We've don this before, right,
- 4:30Speaker 1: and you you should win this division going away. And
- 4:36Speaker 1: if you you know, if if I had to bet
- 4:38Speaker 1: a mortgage on it right now, mortgage payment on it
- 4:41Speaker 1: right now, I'd say that they're gonna. I would put
- 4:43Speaker 1: money on them winning the division. In fact, I would
- 4:45Speaker 1: put them versus the field. I would put big money
- 4:48Speaker 1: on to win the Ale West. I think that's how
- 4:51Speaker 1: that's how good they are. But I think what we
- 4:53Speaker 1: got to get to the point of remembering is it's
- 4:55Speaker 1: not just about that. It's also about like, if you
- 4:59Speaker 1: are who you think you are, and that's a really
- 5:01Speaker 1: good team that is going to compete at a very
- 5:06Speaker 1: high level and get deep into the playoffs and all
- 5:08Speaker 1: those things, you still want to have home field advantage, right, like,
- 5:12Speaker 1: you still want to have that. You still want to
- 5:14Speaker 1: have that home end. Last year they did not for
- 5:16Speaker 1: Game seven in Toronto and they missed it by four games.
- 5:20Speaker 1: So yeah, every game still matters. The nailor thing has
- 5:24Speaker 1: to be a concern, just has to be. We've talked
- 5:28Speaker 1: about it on Mollywop over and over again and I
- 5:31Speaker 1: don't know, Andrews, if you hit this on the postcast
- 5:33Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, but the nailor thing, it has to
- 5:37Speaker 1: be a concern, does it not?
- 5:38Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 5:38Speaker 1: And one hundred percent does.
- 5:39Speaker 4: And it just because you have a game last night
- 5:43Speaker 4: where Cal and Julio both get on base three times.
- 5:45Speaker 4: So that was kind of the main issue for the
- 5:47Speaker 4: first part of the season. Oh, we got to get Cal,
- 5:49Speaker 4: Julio and Naylor going right and the last two games
- 5:51Speaker 4: callin Julia have been doing just fine on the offensive
- 5:54Speaker 4: side of the ball, and Josh Nayler's still just I
- 5:57Speaker 4: don't know, Man's it's a bad ap pro it's it's
- 6:01Speaker 4: You're right about the no urgency thing, because I get
- 6:03Speaker 4: the same vibe and unfortunately I don't think they have
- 6:06Speaker 4: the manager like for good or for for better or
- 6:09Speaker 4: for worse, they don't have the manager that's going to
- 6:11Speaker 4: be the kick and the butt type of manager there.
- 6:12Speaker 4: They have the hey, we're playing the long game, get
- 6:14Speaker 4: your head down, go to work, all that kind of stuff.
- 6:17Speaker 4: So I don't know, I don't know what the where
- 6:19Speaker 4: the fix is on this. I don't know if it's
- 6:20Speaker 4: a trade, but it just it just seems like they
- 6:24Speaker 4: need some sort of change. And maybe that's Emerson getting
- 6:26Speaker 4: called up.
- 6:26Speaker 1: Who knows, At the risk of pissing off our afternoon show.
- 6:32Speaker 3: Oh wait, you want to put a b in that pony.
- 6:34Speaker 1: I already did that yesterday. It's okay, No, I yeah
- 6:38Speaker 1: that No, I'm going a different route. Oh okay, okay,
- 6:40Speaker 1: because and I heard Chuck this morning talking about it too,
- 6:44Speaker 1: and I think he's one hundred percent right like casey
- 6:47Speaker 1: uh leg, I mean ends up being kind of a scapegoat.
- 6:51Speaker 1: And yes, I think Chuck's words where he didn't deserve
- 6:54Speaker 1: to be DF eight, but he should never have been
- 6:57Speaker 1: in all the high leverage situations he was this season,
- 7:01Speaker 1: and the rules that they put in place, whether it's
- 7:03Speaker 1: Dan or management or what have you, or the decisions
- 7:06Speaker 1: that are made that have put him in that position.
- 7:08Speaker 1: To all of a sudden you know, kind of be
- 7:09Speaker 1: the guy while it's his fault, and there's refreshed everyone's
- 7:13Speaker 1: memory about Game seven and Edward Bizarre.
- 7:17Speaker 4: Do I need to please I think no, but I
- 7:21Speaker 4: think it's needed.
- 7:22Speaker 1: What happened in that.
- 7:24Speaker 4: You're you're against You have the lead in Game seven
- 7:27Speaker 4: to alcs for a chance to go to the World Series.
- 7:29Speaker 4: Eight outs left, everyone knows, and you have the most
- 7:33Speaker 4: the highest leverage part of the order. It's not the
- 7:36Speaker 4: highest leverage moment in the game, per se, but the
- 7:39Speaker 4: most dangerous part of the Blue Jays order, including George Springer,
- 7:43Speaker 4: and that's yeah, that's who ended up killing you. You go,
- 7:47Speaker 4: you have Moonnos available, but you're trying to save him
- 7:49Speaker 4: for the ninth inning, and you go to Edward Bizardo
- 7:52Speaker 4: and he you know, we all know the ending of
- 7:54Speaker 4: that story. So that's why the frustration was there.
- 7:57Speaker 1: So that decision, which will haunt Dan Wilson forever, is
- 8:02Speaker 1: one of many that we look at with Wilson, the
- 8:06Speaker 1: Ryan Heay decision, or Healey, the Luke Rayley decision, their buddies. Actually, yeah,
- 8:11Speaker 1: as I read today, decision to pinch it for him
- 8:14Speaker 1: with a career, well not a career, but basically a
- 8:17Speaker 1: four A guy in Connor, Joe and just pitching decision
- 8:21Speaker 1: after pitching decision. There's a reason that Dan Wilson is
- 8:25Speaker 1: under a lot of chrism. There's a reason that Joe,
- 8:27Speaker 1: she and and other guys that know the game far
- 8:29Speaker 1: better than all of us are coming on our show
- 8:31Speaker 1: and saying, yeah, I think I have a concern about
- 8:33Speaker 1: Dan Wilson, not just Nate and Chris and Anders, but others.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Here's here's my concern. And it's hard because I think
- 8:46Speaker 1: none of us are buddies with them, or not drinking
- 8:48Speaker 1: with them and hanging out with off with them. But
- 8:50Speaker 1: Dan Wilson, for any interaction anybody's ever happens a really
- 8:53Speaker 1: good news of Mariner, Hall of Famer and all those things,
- 8:55Speaker 1: there's a nice guy. My concern is this, and I
- 8:59Speaker 1: think it's a legit them at. Concern that a lot
- 9:01Speaker 1: of fans would share is that there are enough decisions
- 9:05Speaker 1: that are critical. Not just a Game seven decision, but
- 9:08Speaker 1: in twenty five games this season, there's probably been a
- 9:11Speaker 1: dozen that we could critique from Dan Wilson.
- 9:15Speaker 4: You you may.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Not get to the heights you need to get to
- 9:20Speaker 1: with this guy as your manager. With this roster, this
- 9:25Speaker 1: pitching staff, specifically the starting pitching, but even the back
- 9:28Speaker 1: end of that rote of the bullpen, you may not
- 9:31Speaker 1: reach the capabilities of this team with him managing. We
- 9:38Speaker 1: don't know yet. Time will tell. But remember why they
- 9:43Speaker 1: got rid of why they got rid of Scott Service? Yeah,
- 9:47Speaker 1: because they wanted to take that next step. And in
- 9:50Speaker 1: a sense they did playoffs, seven games all that. But
- 9:56Speaker 1: would Service have got him there too? Maybe? I don't know.
- 10:00Speaker 4: There's a lot there's a lot of speculation there, but
- 10:03Speaker 4: I would even say this about Dan Wilson, you could
- 10:05Speaker 4: take a step further. I think Casey Legemina situation is
- 10:08Speaker 4: actually a microcosm of the Dan Wilson situation. He was
- 10:10Speaker 4: put He was put in a position not to succeed, right,
- 10:15Speaker 4: and it's just it's not a good spot to be.
- 10:18Speaker 4: And he had never been a manager before, let alone
- 10:21Speaker 4: at any level, not not in the major leagues, not
- 10:24Speaker 4: in the minor leagues. He had not been a manager before,
- 10:27Speaker 4: and he's expected to kind of lead this team in
- 10:29Speaker 4: their self proclaimed World Series window and you take him
- 10:34Speaker 4: over the over the hump, and I don't like you said,
- 10:37Speaker 4: he's a great guy. I think he eventually could be
- 10:40Speaker 4: a good manager, but you're not setting him up for
- 10:42Speaker 4: success in this situation.
- 10:44Speaker 1: No, And I think that's the concern. And I just
- 10:46Speaker 1: it was weird, Lessen. It's so weird because I'm watching
- 10:49Speaker 1: the contract the contrast on like NHL playoff games back
- 10:52Speaker 1: and forth, Mariner game and it's April marinor game what
- 10:57Speaker 1: have you, right, c as with you know, five thousand
- 11:00Speaker 1: people in the building and what have you. I get that,
- 11:03Speaker 1: but it just you're kind of watching the a's and
- 11:06Speaker 1: their body language and watching the Mariners and it's just like, yeah,
- 11:09Speaker 1: we'll COASTU. We'll turn it around. We always do. We
- 11:11Speaker 1: always start slow and we'll turn it around.
- 11:14Speaker 6: Uh.
- 11:15Speaker 1: And I just think there has to be more of Hey,
- 11:18Speaker 1: games in April matter more or matter as much as
- 11:20Speaker 1: games in May, June, July, and August and September, right
- 11:23Speaker 1: like they just do. But I thought what Chuck said
- 11:25Speaker 1: this morning was banging on as I'm taking my two
- 11:28Speaker 1: hour commute out here, was he was a fact that
- 11:31Speaker 1: you know, Aga Mina was put in a position to
- 11:36Speaker 1: swift to fail, and like you said, maybe Dan was
- 11:39Speaker 1: putting that same position. Time will tell maybe it'll do it.
- 11:41Speaker 1: They always do. Hit a switch, turn it around and
- 11:43Speaker 1: have these great maize and June's and away you go.
- 11:45Speaker 1: But right now it's not not too promising. All right,
- 11:48Speaker 1: NFL Draft, Eve, We'll take a break. Come back, Steve
- 11:50Speaker 1: Powe's will check the Mike thirty thirteen, he'll join us.
- 11:52Speaker 6: Coming up next, we're diving into the numbers and the
- 11:58Speaker 6: grades around the NFL with Steve Felazolo from the thirty
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- 12:21Speaker 1: All right, Steve Pelozolo joined us thirty thirteen. Check the
- 12:24Speaker 1: Mic podcast on this twenty twenty six NFL Draft Eve. Steve,
- 12:31Speaker 1: how are you, buddy?
- 12:33Speaker 5: Doing great? We're just about there, just about there right now.
- 12:37Speaker 5: Feel good.
- 12:38Speaker 1: Good time of the year, buddy. Good to listen. We've
- 12:40Speaker 1: been talking a lot of Seahawks specific stuff for a while.
- 12:43Speaker 1: Now I want to do something little different today because
- 12:46Speaker 1: I frankly have been guilty of this, of just kind
- 12:50Speaker 1: of ignoring the first round, to be honest with you,
- 12:52Speaker 1: because our local team, Steve, I don't know if you
- 12:55Speaker 1: know this, they won the Super.
- 12:56Speaker 7: Bowl this year.
- 12:57Speaker 1: That gives them the thirty second pick in the draft.
- 13:01Speaker 1: So we've been kind of but I know people have
- 13:04Speaker 1: a massive interest in the draft as a whole. So
- 13:05Speaker 1: I want to kind of bounce around the first round
- 13:07Speaker 1: and gets some thoughts from you on maybe some players
- 13:10Speaker 1: and specific teams and what you kind of see they
- 13:12Speaker 1: might do before I do that. Let me take one
- 13:14Speaker 1: step back. We had Monday, we had the John Schneider
- 13:18Speaker 1: Mike McDonald news conference. We were out there doing the
- 13:20Speaker 1: show out there and Schneider was massively open Morse and
- 13:25Speaker 1: we all know his history. He likes to trade down.
- 13:27Speaker 1: That's how he does it. I think it's fourteen times
- 13:30Speaker 1: he's done so since coming to Seattle in the first round.
- 13:32Speaker 1: He loves to trade down. I don't ever remember him
- 13:35Speaker 1: coming out point blank and saying, hey, we're open for business.
- 13:38Speaker 1: We want to move down. He said, Steve, basically, Hey,
- 13:42Speaker 1: it's no secret we want to move down. That thirty
- 13:45Speaker 1: second pick because of the fifth year option, probably has
- 13:47Speaker 1: more value to somebody than it does to us, But
- 13:49Speaker 1: I think other team's going to want to do the
- 13:51Speaker 1: same thing. How challenging do you think it will be
- 13:54Speaker 1: for John Schneider to move down out of that first,
- 13:56Speaker 1: that thirty second pick and do what he wants to do,
- 13:59Speaker 1: and that's accumulate more picks, especially on Day three.
- 14:03Speaker 8: I think it'll be easier at thirty two maybe than
- 14:06Speaker 8: at the top of the draft. I think the top
- 14:07Speaker 8: of the draft is challenging because there's so you know,
- 14:11Speaker 8: there's only so many blue chip players to go around,
- 14:13Speaker 8: and you have to give up a lot. I think,
- 14:15Speaker 8: you know, now, the decision I think John might have
- 14:18Speaker 8: to make is do I help a team in the
- 14:20Speaker 8: division like Arizona who might want Ty Simpson and maybe
- 14:24Speaker 8: they're the team that wants to come up and get
- 14:26Speaker 8: the quarterback and make sure that they get them ahead
- 14:28Speaker 8: of the Jets again and make sure that they walk
- 14:30Speaker 8: in the fifth year. That's more I think maybe one
- 14:32Speaker 8: of the decisions John Schneider has to make there. But
- 14:36Speaker 8: I think there'll be some opportunities there at the back
- 14:39Speaker 8: end of the first Like that's every part of the draft.
- 14:42Speaker 8: Every draft, there's a point where the boards diverge and
- 14:45Speaker 8: opinions change, and I think in this draft it's earlier
- 14:48Speaker 8: than ever. It's early in the top ten, maybe at
- 14:50Speaker 8: two or three, where it's usually six or seven, eight,
- 14:53Speaker 8: And I think sometimes it's the middle of the second
- 14:56Speaker 8: where opinions diverge. It might be the late first where
- 14:59Speaker 8: teams are just like, look, i don't care where everyone
- 15:01Speaker 8: else values this player. I'm taking him at twenty five,
- 15:03Speaker 8: or I'm taking him at thirty, or I'm going to
- 15:05Speaker 8: get my guy, because I think opinions on this draft
- 15:08Speaker 8: are going to be all over the place.
- 15:10Speaker 1: Well, and I think one of the things that he
- 15:12Speaker 1: did say that he goes, hey, we have great relationships
- 15:14Speaker 1: with the other teams in our division. I'm not adverse
- 15:15Speaker 1: to trading in our own division with somebody as well,
- 15:18Speaker 1: which I thought was also an interesting dynamics. I hadn't heard,
- 15:21Speaker 1: you know, a guy actually say that before. But the
- 15:23Speaker 1: ty Simpson one seems to be the logical run, right
- 15:26Speaker 1: if if you have the ability to draft a quarterback
- 15:29Speaker 1: later in the first round, so the salary goes down
- 15:31Speaker 1: obviously with every pick, but you still if you like him,
- 15:34Speaker 1: you have that fifty year option available for a quarterback
- 15:37Speaker 1: that would be ideal. I would assume that's probably what
- 15:39Speaker 1: in some ways they're rooting to see ty Simpson keep
- 15:42Speaker 1: dropping in this draft.
- 15:44Speaker 5: Oh yeah, for sure.
- 15:45Speaker 8: I mean I think he's the he's the player to
- 15:48Speaker 8: keep an eye on, because it'll look a lot like
- 15:49Speaker 8: Jackson Dark potentially last year. Yeah, you know, you hear
- 15:53Speaker 8: people say all the time, Well, if Arizona loves ty
- 15:55Speaker 8: Simpson that much, why not take him at three? Well,
- 15:57Speaker 8: there's a there's not a lot of teams looking for qbs,
- 16:00Speaker 8: and ty Simpson's not a slam dunk top ten player,
- 16:03Speaker 8: and I think Arizona has a chance to either pick
- 16:05Speaker 8: somebody at three, trade down, pick someone else, but also
- 16:09Speaker 8: maneuver back up to get ty Simpson, or just wait
- 16:12Speaker 8: and get them early second.
- 16:13Speaker 5: That's just where his value is.
- 16:14Speaker 8: So yeah, I think that's that's the most likely play
- 16:18Speaker 8: and where a lot of the smoke is in part
- 16:20Speaker 8: because where the Jets also need a QB, but they
- 16:23Speaker 8: have all their picks for next year. They're not I
- 16:25Speaker 8: don't think, in a hurry right now to find their
- 16:28Speaker 8: quarterback or force it if they don't have to. So
- 16:30Speaker 8: Arizona does feel like the most logical spot for Ty
- 16:33Speaker 8: Simpson for sure.
- 16:35Speaker 1: I love talking to you about team, about roster building,
- 16:37Speaker 1: because you love talking. That's kind of your thing. We're
- 16:41Speaker 1: out here at the Hockey Arena, the practice facility for
- 16:44Speaker 1: our NHL team for the cracking today and where the
- 16:46Speaker 1: word rebuild gets brought up all the time, right, And
- 16:50Speaker 1: it's one of those it's not a four letter word,
- 16:52Speaker 1: but it is a four letter word because you hear
- 16:54Speaker 1: it tossed around a lot. And I was just talking
- 16:56Speaker 1: to the GM Jason Bottroll about this and we got
- 16:59Speaker 1: an interview coming up with later. It's not something you
- 17:02Speaker 1: see truly in a lot of sports, a quote unquote
- 17:05Speaker 1: true rebuilt, right, because usually you have guys on contract,
- 17:08Speaker 1: they're harder to move. I think the NFL might be
- 17:10Speaker 1: the exception. Is the NFL a league where you truly
- 17:13Speaker 1: can't rebuild, and the Jets are doing that right now.
- 17:16Speaker 5: You could.
- 17:17Speaker 8: You could spend a couple of years now. It can't
- 17:18Speaker 8: take forever, you know. I mean, it's not like you can't.
- 17:21Speaker 8: You don't have time to do the five year deal,
- 17:24Speaker 8: but you can do it pretty quickly and you can,
- 17:27Speaker 8: you know, tear it down a little bit to build
- 17:29Speaker 8: it back up. I'll say this though, I think it's
- 17:30Speaker 8: I think it's becoming tougher because you know, it's tough
- 17:34Speaker 8: to you got to hit on your draft picks, and
- 17:37Speaker 8: then I think it's tough to sprinkle in free agents. Now,
- 17:40Speaker 8: I said, look, here's where the NFL is unique. The
- 17:44Speaker 8: individual player, the quarterback changes everything, and that's where you
- 17:48Speaker 8: accelerate it. So if you're the Bears, you know, getting
- 17:50Speaker 8: Kayleb Williams, or you're the Patriots getting Drake may or
- 17:52Speaker 8: the Commanders getting Jadeen Daniels, that changes everything.
- 17:55Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's why in.
- 17:57Speaker 8: The NFL it could happen quickly if you find the quarterback,
- 18:01Speaker 8: but also to turnover the roster might still take three
- 18:04Speaker 8: years to fully you know, a team like the Titans
- 18:06Speaker 8: who found the quarterback, or even the Commanders who found
- 18:10Speaker 8: jade and Daniels. They had the one year of success,
- 18:12Speaker 8: but it takes a couple of years to really turn
- 18:14Speaker 8: the roster over. Even what John's done in Seattle, you know,
- 18:17Speaker 8: it takes a couple of years to get everybody in
- 18:20Speaker 8: and to build off that foundation. And you know, Seattle
- 18:23Speaker 8: at least had a better base. Tennessee is really starting
- 18:25Speaker 8: from a tough spot, and some of these teams just
- 18:27Speaker 8: don't have a ton of talent right now. So yeah,
- 18:31Speaker 8: it's like it could be quick if you find the quarterback.
- 18:33Speaker 8: It could be a little bit longer if the if
- 18:35Speaker 8: the quarterback takes a while like it has maybe for
- 18:37Speaker 8: a team like the Jets right.
- 18:38Speaker 1: Now and see pellas will to check the Mike Podcast
- 18:40Speaker 1: thirty third team. All right, let's get to it. Raiders.
- 18:44Speaker 1: We I assume there's no drama expected tomorrow It'll be
- 18:47Speaker 1: for Banana Mendoza and away we go.
- 18:50Speaker 8: Yeah, for Nanda Mendoza and then moving on, he'll be
- 18:53Speaker 8: the QB of the future for the for the Raiders.
- 18:56Speaker 1: So then we get to the Jets. The aforementioned Jets,
- 18:58Speaker 1: Cardinals have two and three, Titans four, and Giants five.
- 19:05Speaker 1: A lot of different places we could go Reese the
- 19:08Speaker 1: edge rusher out of Ohio State, the running back Jeremiah Love. Obviously,
- 19:12Speaker 1: people like sunny styles, Caleb Downs. How do you kind
- 19:15Speaker 1: of see the next few picks going in that draft
- 19:18Speaker 1: in that order? And do you think we'll see any
- 19:20Speaker 1: movement with Jets, Cardinals, Titans, Giants in that top five?
- 19:24Speaker 8: So from what there was originally a point where I
- 19:27Speaker 8: thought the Cardinals might be able to trade down. Maybe
- 19:30Speaker 8: Tennessee could trade down from four. It sounds like a
- 19:32Speaker 8: lot of the movement might not start until six, maybe
- 19:34Speaker 8: with the Browns, and so I think they're gonna end
- 19:37Speaker 8: up making the picks at the top, the Jets and Cardinals.
- 19:40Speaker 8: The Jets might still be undecided from what the rumors
- 19:44Speaker 8: are at pick two, and like they've basically been on
- 19:47Speaker 8: the clock for four months now. Height everybody's known it's Mendoza.
- 19:52Speaker 8: The Jets have pretty much been on the clock since
- 19:54Speaker 8: the season end. It's a three months and I think
- 19:56Speaker 8: they might still be undecided. I think ultimately it comes
- 19:59Speaker 8: down to r Bel Reese versus David Bailey. Maybe there's
- 20:01Speaker 8: a wild card in there, but I would say it's
- 20:04Speaker 8: r Bel Reese at two. Would be the my final
- 20:06Speaker 8: answer if you had to ask me today what you are,
- 20:09Speaker 8: it's tomorrow the draft, so I'd say it's r Bel Reese.
- 20:12Speaker 1: So they're gonna go. They're gonna probably go edge because Bailey,
- 20:15Speaker 1: Bailey and Reese are the two top edge players.
- 20:18Speaker 8: Yeah, and the Jets they brought in a lot of
- 20:20Speaker 8: defensive line help this offseason, but more second tier type
- 20:24Speaker 8: of players. They still need impact players on the defensive
- 20:26Speaker 8: side of the ball. They were offul last year, and
- 20:28Speaker 8: so I think it's one of those guys at two
- 20:30Speaker 8: for sure.
- 20:32Speaker 1: Caleb Downs, the safety out of Ohio State, was a
- 20:35Speaker 1: player that we have talked about. Everyone had talked about
- 20:37Speaker 1: It's for all season long as being like a top
- 20:40Speaker 1: two or three pick.
- 20:42Speaker 9: I don't know.
- 20:43Speaker 1: I don't want to say he slipped, because you know
- 20:45Speaker 1: who who's to decide, right, But where would you where
- 20:48Speaker 1: would you see Caleb Downs going? How high should he go?
- 20:51Speaker 1: And where's the fit for Caleb Downs?
- 20:55Speaker 5: I mean, he's the type of safety that should go
- 20:57Speaker 5: in the top ten.
- 20:58Speaker 8: And then in a draft where there's not a clean
- 21:00Speaker 8: group of wide receivers, tackles, even pass rushers, it makes
- 21:03Speaker 8: even more sense for Downs to go in the top ten.
- 21:06Speaker 8: I think a team like the Saints would make a
- 21:08Speaker 8: lot of sense at eight. The Commanders could use the
- 21:10Speaker 8: defensive help at seven, but they might have some better
- 21:13Speaker 8: options on the defensive line if a Ruben Bain falls,
- 21:16Speaker 8: But I mean if he gets past Dallas at twelve,
- 21:20Speaker 8: I would be really surprised Downs, because it's just I
- 21:24Speaker 8: think people are getting bored of the process. He's a
- 21:26Speaker 8: great football player. He was a great football player for
- 21:28Speaker 8: three straight years, one at Alabama, two in Ohio State.
- 21:31Speaker 8: He could play all over the secondary. He doesn't have
- 21:35Speaker 8: the freak athleticism that Nicki Manwari has or even Derwin
- 21:39Speaker 8: James and some of these other safeties who have been
- 21:41Speaker 8: first rounders or in even Warri's case, early second rounder
- 21:44Speaker 8: and have made an impact. Doesn't have the size of
- 21:47Speaker 8: a Kyle Hamilton. But he's a lot like Brian Branch
- 21:51Speaker 8: from the Detroit Lions, who is a second rounder but
- 21:54Speaker 8: has been an impact player, was a first round talent.
- 21:57Speaker 8: And I think, look, somebody's gonna say, just give me
- 21:59Speaker 8: the football player. He's you know, football iq.
- 22:01Speaker 5: Off the charts.
- 22:02Speaker 8: I think downs at least goes in the top twelve.
- 22:04Speaker 8: You gotta plug and play high end safety right away.
- 22:08Speaker 1: Even worry, And I don't know if I asked you this
- 22:09Speaker 1: last week or and I know I'm discussing with one
- 22:12Speaker 1: with one of the guys we're talking to draft with
- 22:13Speaker 1: along the way coast Sell maybe, but Nick, Nick even
- 22:17Speaker 1: worry if he was in if we knew what we
- 22:20Speaker 1: knew about him, right and he was in this year's draft,
- 22:23Speaker 1: how high would he go? Or maybe even this is
- 22:25Speaker 1: a better question, a better way to phrase it, Steve,
- 22:27Speaker 1: are people looking for that type of guy that like, Okay,
- 22:30Speaker 1: he doesn't really fit the trip to typical safety role.
- 22:33Speaker 1: He's more of a big nickel play that what have you.
- 22:36Speaker 1: But you just mentioned with Caleb Downs, like, Caleb Down's
- 22:39Speaker 1: really good, but he's not Nick even Worry, right, So
- 22:42Speaker 1: where would he even Worry fit into this year's drafter
- 22:44Speaker 1: or has he changed the way some teams think and like, Hey,
- 22:47Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a take a guy that that I
- 22:48Speaker 1: think can have this massive upside that doesn't fit into
- 22:51Speaker 1: the typical box of This is what a free safety
- 22:53Speaker 1: looks like, This is what a strong safety looks like.
- 22:56Speaker 1: This is what a nickelback looks like.
- 22:58Speaker 5: Yeah, so I think it depends on the scheme.
- 23:00Speaker 8: I mean, even Downs isn't Emon Warri physically, but he
- 23:03Speaker 8: could be a better football player than him. It certainly
- 23:05Speaker 8: was in college and wouldn't be surprised if he's a
- 23:07Speaker 8: better all around safety at the next level. But if
- 23:10Speaker 8: you have a plan like Seattle did for Emon Warre
- 23:12Speaker 8: and say, look, yeah he is our big nickel, He's
- 23:14Speaker 8: gonna play over the slot. He can cover tight ends,
- 23:17Speaker 8: he can cover slot receivers, he can make an impact
- 23:19Speaker 8: against the run as a as a blitzer. He can
- 23:21Speaker 8: do it all, and we're going to use him in
- 23:23Speaker 8: that capacity. Then you say, okay, he's a top ten
- 23:26Speaker 8: to fifteen pick. Now if you're saying if you're just
- 23:29Speaker 8: a normal team that's just gonna play, you know, split safeties,
- 23:33Speaker 8: and say, oh, even Warre is our safety, I don't
- 23:35Speaker 8: know if he's a top twenty pick in this draft,
- 23:37Speaker 8: you know, so, I mean it depends on usage and
- 23:40Speaker 8: where you know where you're gonna put him. You know,
- 23:42Speaker 8: if Caleb Downs becomes the next day, you know, like
- 23:44Speaker 8: I said Brian branch Or Antoine Winfield, even who's just
- 23:47Speaker 8: a traditional free safety, you could still justify that pick
- 23:51Speaker 8: in the top ten to fifteen, but it's it's a
- 23:53Speaker 8: different role. So safety of all positions, I think you
- 23:57Speaker 8: really have to have a plan, especially when he had
- 23:59Speaker 8: unique skill set. It's like Iman Wari, like Kyle Hamilton
- 24:02Speaker 8: in this case, like a Caleb Downs.
- 24:04Speaker 1: It is as Steve Pallasila joining us Check to Mike
- 24:06Speaker 1: Podcast thirty thirteen, what's the run going to be in
- 24:09Speaker 1: the early or mid first rounds? What position are we
- 24:13Speaker 1: going to see a run on at East? And I'll
- 24:15Speaker 1: throw a couple at you. Is it cornerback? Is it edge?
- 24:18Speaker 1: We just talked about a couple edge, you know, re Spailey,
- 24:21Speaker 1: they go Ruben Baynes. Maybe it comes a like like,
- 24:24Speaker 1: where is the run going to be? What position group?
- 24:26Speaker 1: All of a sudden is going to start the typical
- 24:28Speaker 1: like we see every year in the NFL Draft, a
- 24:30Speaker 1: first round run.
- 24:32Speaker 8: So I think there'll be some add rushers at the top,
- 24:35Speaker 8: but I think the actual run is going to be
- 24:37Speaker 8: offensive tackle.
- 24:39Speaker 5: You know, receivers interesting as well.
- 24:40Speaker 8: But if you look at the tackles, you have Spencer
- 24:43Speaker 8: Fano from Utah, you have Francis Maley, Noa from Miami,
- 24:46Speaker 8: you have Caden Proctor from Alabama. Depending on who you
- 24:49Speaker 8: talk to, any of those three, and I'll throw Monroe
- 24:52Speaker 8: Freeling from Georgia in there. Any I've heard any of
- 24:54Speaker 8: those four as tackle one tackle two types, depending on
- 24:58Speaker 8: either the analyst you're talking about or you know what
- 25:01Speaker 8: teams are coveting. So Fano from Utah, Maui Noah from Miami,
- 25:05Speaker 8: Proctor from Alabama, Monroe Freelink from Georgia. I think they
- 25:09Speaker 8: could all go top fifteen. You have Blake Miller from Clemson,
- 25:12Speaker 8: and then you have Caleb low Move from Utah the
- 25:15Speaker 8: other on the other side, and then maxa Honaker from
- 25:18Speaker 8: Arizona State. So those are just that's seven tackles right there. Wow,
- 25:22Speaker 8: who I think could all go in the first round
- 25:24Speaker 8: before you even get to some of the guards. And
- 25:26Speaker 8: again in this type of draft where you say, okay,
- 25:28Speaker 8: there's not you know, there might not be some superstars here,
- 25:32Speaker 8: the idea of getting a starting tackle in this draft
- 25:35Speaker 8: I think is gonna be coveted by a lot of teams. Now,
- 25:38Speaker 8: the tricky part is the teams who really need tackles.
- 25:41Speaker 8: It doesn't start until the teams. So I don't know
- 25:44Speaker 8: that the run is like in the top ten or
- 25:46Speaker 8: anythink there's a couple teams that need tackles, but there's
- 25:48Speaker 8: also a bunch that are set. And so I think
- 25:50Speaker 8: in the teams and into the twenties, you start to
- 25:52Speaker 8: see some movement for the offensive tackles.
- 25:55Speaker 1: It so maybe it's maybe this you're gonna wreck me
- 26:00Speaker 1: and say it's been not that long. But remember back
- 26:04Speaker 1: in the day, Steve, when the top offensive tackle was
- 26:06Speaker 1: an obvious number one overall pick. That doesn't seem to
- 26:10Speaker 1: be the case anymore.
- 26:12Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I think you still if you had
- 26:16Speaker 8: if you had the blue chip guy, like if Piney
- 26:18Speaker 8: Sool came out right now, or like if Pine School
- 26:21Speaker 8: was in this class, you'd have some discussions about that
- 26:24Speaker 8: and fin a school at the top or Joe wallt
- 26:26Speaker 8: a couple of years ago from the Chargers.
- 26:28Speaker 5: I mean, that's the thing.
- 26:28Speaker 8: Like the the it does feel like, you know, School
- 26:31Speaker 8: came out the same year as Jamar Chase, and you
- 26:33Speaker 8: debate and there's a heavy debate about those two players.
- 26:35Speaker 8: For say the Cincinnati Bengals at five, Joe Waltz came
- 26:38Speaker 8: out with Malik Neighbors. You know, two elite players at
- 26:41Speaker 8: valuable positions that there's a debate there for the Chargers
- 26:44Speaker 8: that year.
- 26:44Speaker 5: So it seems like in next year's going to be
- 26:47Speaker 5: the same thing.
- 26:48Speaker 8: We might have what the best wide receiver prospect in
- 26:51Speaker 8: Jeremiah Smith and the best cornerback prospect in Leonard Moore. Uh,
- 26:55Speaker 8: you know, in a decade or more coming out at
- 26:56Speaker 8: the same time. It does feel like a lot of
- 26:58Speaker 8: the elite players are coming in the same draft clock
- 27:00Speaker 8: In recent years.
- 27:01Speaker 1: Here is Caden Proctor, the Alabama tackle. Is he really
- 27:05Speaker 1: a tackle or is he a guard?
- 27:08Speaker 5: I think teams see him as both.
- 27:09Speaker 8: I mean, you could definitely justify putting the three hundred
- 27:12Speaker 8: and fifty pounder at guard.
- 27:13Speaker 5: He actually moves really well.
- 27:14Speaker 8: If you watched any college football, you saw Alabama feeding
- 27:17Speaker 8: him screens and him looking pretty good with the ball
- 27:19Speaker 8: in his hands. He doesn't always show up, yeah, I mean,
- 27:22Speaker 8: he was great running the ball. He doesn't always doesn't
- 27:24Speaker 8: always show up in his pass sets. But I think
- 27:25Speaker 8: he got better as this year year went on. So
- 27:27Speaker 8: I think there are definitely teams who say he's so
- 27:30Speaker 8: big he is tough for rushers to even get around him.
- 27:34Speaker 8: He's athletic enough keep him at tackle. But I think
- 27:37Speaker 8: if say the Chargers at twenty two had an opportunity
- 27:39Speaker 8: at Cayden Proctor and they have their two tackles all set,
- 27:42Speaker 8: they would love to plug him in right at right
- 27:45Speaker 8: guard and say, hey, go mall some people in the
- 27:47Speaker 8: run game. So I could see teams looking at Proctor
- 27:49Speaker 8: in both positions.
- 27:50Speaker 1: What's the guard class look like to you? I mean,
- 27:53Speaker 1: it feels like we're not going to see a guard
- 27:55Speaker 1: go until maybe later in the first round. What does
- 27:57Speaker 1: the guard class look like?
- 28:00Speaker 8: So Venga Yuana from Penn State seems to be the
- 28:03Speaker 8: consensus top guy.
- 28:04Speaker 5: You know, Francis Maunoa from Miami.
- 28:06Speaker 8: I know a lot of the people I like to
- 28:08Speaker 8: talk to really like him as a guard. So he's
- 28:11Speaker 8: another hybrid player, depends on the team. But Youana is
- 28:14Speaker 8: the best pure guard by the consensus. I think he
- 28:17Speaker 8: could go as high as maybe fourteen with the Ravens.
- 28:20Speaker 8: I'm interested to see maybe the Rams at thirteen if
- 28:23Speaker 8: they wanted to future proof that position because of the
- 28:26Speaker 8: power that he brings to the table. But I think
- 28:29Speaker 8: so Yoana could go top fifteen, and then I think
- 28:31Speaker 8: you have perhaps a couple guards sneaking into the late twenties.
- 28:34Speaker 8: Emmanuel Pregnan from Oregon. He could be of interest to
- 28:38Speaker 8: the Chargers if they really want to fill that need.
- 28:41Speaker 8: And then we're in this season where there's about ninety
- 28:43Speaker 8: players who have heard their name as potential, you know,
- 28:46Speaker 8: potential first rounders. Never know if this guy could sneak
- 28:49Speaker 8: into the first round. So the Chase Basontis from Texas
- 28:53Speaker 8: A and m and Keelan Rutledge from Georgia Tech have
- 28:56Speaker 8: been in first round mock drafts toward the end. So
- 28:59Speaker 8: that's four guards plus whatever you think of Maui Noah,
- 29:02Speaker 8: you know, who have at least had their had their
- 29:05Speaker 8: name written down in some prominent first round mock drafts
- 29:08Speaker 8: over the last few weeks. So there there could be
- 29:10Speaker 8: some movement there in the in the twenties.
- 29:12Speaker 1: Jadarium Price running back too, He's what do you think
- 29:16Speaker 1: in terms of grades? Is he a mid second round guy,
- 29:19Speaker 1: high second round guy? Where would you put Jadarian Price?
- 29:23Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 29:23Speaker 8: I think I think he's a second rounder. I mean,
- 29:25Speaker 8: if you look at him, he's a good player. He's
- 29:26Speaker 8: got some burst, you know, I think he's good up
- 29:29Speaker 8: to twenty yards. I think he's got some questions as
- 29:31Speaker 8: far as overall past game goes. But even you know,
- 29:34Speaker 8: a couple of years ago when when Ken Walker and
- 29:36Speaker 8: Breece Hall went early second round, they felt like better
- 29:40Speaker 8: prospects than Price. You know, those were the top two
- 29:43Speaker 8: running backs off the board that year. Of course, in
- 29:45Speaker 8: recent years we've had Jon Robinson, Jamiir Gibbs, We've had
- 29:48Speaker 8: a few more of these, you know, Ashton genties, a
- 29:50Speaker 8: few more of these clean first round types. I think
- 29:53Speaker 8: Price feels more like in a normal year, I think
- 29:56Speaker 8: he's like running back five to six, maybe seven, you know,
- 29:59Speaker 8: in in a deeper year, and he's got and he's
- 30:02Speaker 8: running back too. For a lot of people, I think
- 30:03Speaker 8: that ends up being the second round. If a team
- 30:05Speaker 8: has a desperate need, maybe they end up taking them,
- 30:08Speaker 8: you know, high second or you know, I know Seattle
- 30:10Speaker 8: gets mocked, uh you know for him and at thirty two.
- 30:13Speaker 8: I don't know if I see that happening necessarily with
- 30:15Speaker 8: their few draft picks, yeah, yeah, I wouldn't do it,
- 30:20Speaker 8: but yeah, they feel much better take it. If they
- 30:21Speaker 8: could trade down, pick up an extra couple of picks,
- 30:23Speaker 8: they feel much better about taking them. With so few picks,
- 30:26Speaker 8: you don't want to use one of them on a
- 30:27Speaker 8: running back. But I think he's a mid second round
- 30:29Speaker 8: type of player.
- 30:30Speaker 1: Overall. It's just such a need for Seattle, right, Like
- 30:33Speaker 1: I just I know, even on Monday when we're listening
- 30:36Speaker 1: to these guys Schneider and mcdonnald and they're like, oh,
- 30:39Speaker 1: you know, we feel good about a running back room,
- 30:40Speaker 1: and I'm like really, and like Emmanuel Wilson, like really, I.
- 30:45Speaker 8: Mean, yeah, w Wilson's been a good occational guy. But yeah,
- 30:48Speaker 8: you I'm sure they want the big playability of Kenneth
- 30:52Speaker 8: Walker is going to be really tough to replace, but
- 30:54Speaker 8: I'm sure they want at least something more dependable there
- 30:57Speaker 8: that they can have here in the draft if possible.
- 30:58Speaker 1: All right, last thing, Steve, what's a wildcard here is
- 31:02Speaker 1: whether it's a player that all of a sudden drops
- 31:05Speaker 1: where we didn't think he would drop. Maybe I'll have
- 31:08Speaker 1: to throw a name out there, like could ruben Bain
- 31:10Speaker 1: Junior drop all of a sudden short arms, maybe a
- 31:13Speaker 1: question about the car accident, whatever it might be. Is
- 31:15Speaker 1: he is he a guy that drops? Or what's a
- 31:18Speaker 1: wildcard that you can see happening tomorrow?
- 31:21Speaker 5: Well, there's been multiple mocks.
- 31:23Speaker 8: Peter Schrager, my friend Ari Meyrov from the thirty thirteen
- 31:27Speaker 8: both have ruben Bain at twelve thirteen fourteen range. Yeah,
- 31:30Speaker 8: which was really surprising to me. I've just seen him
- 31:34Speaker 8: as you know, if the Chiefs have an opportunity to
- 31:36Speaker 8: get him at nine, I just figured that was a
- 31:38Speaker 8: slam dunk. But if he gets past ten, I'd be surprised.
- 31:40Speaker 8: But that's happening more and more as we get closer
- 31:43Speaker 8: to the draft. The other name to keep an eye
- 31:45Speaker 8: on that's pretty big right now is Jermad McCoy, the
- 31:48Speaker 8: cornerback from Tennessee.
- 31:48Speaker 5: He's got some maybe long term knee injuries.
- 31:51Speaker 8: He was thought of as a top fifteen player, missed
- 31:53Speaker 8: all of last year with an acl but even unrelated
- 31:55Speaker 8: to that could have the long term injury implications. I
- 31:58Speaker 8: think teams lay first or into the second have to
- 32:02Speaker 8: weigh that.
- 32:02Speaker 1: Especially.
- 32:02Speaker 8: You know, a team like the Jets that has four
- 32:04Speaker 8: picks in the top forty four would make a ton
- 32:06Speaker 8: of sense to try for that. You know, big swing
- 32:08Speaker 8: on Jamal McCoy, So keep an eye on him. And
- 32:11Speaker 8: then the other player that I just love who I'm
- 32:14Speaker 8: really interested in is Eli Stowers from Vanderbilt as a
- 32:18Speaker 8: tight end who really can't block, so has a big
- 32:21Speaker 8: bodied receiver type. I want to see how the league
- 32:24Speaker 8: values him because I think he could be a really
- 32:25Speaker 8: good second round player, But I don't really know where
- 32:28Speaker 8: the league's going to value that as far as his
- 32:31Speaker 8: inability to you know, line up in line as a
- 32:33Speaker 8: tight end. But he's he's a really good pass catcher.
- 32:35Speaker 1: Hello, Carlos Arroyo, Carlos Right, Elijah Elijah Eli. Yeah, Elijah Royal,
- 32:43Speaker 1: I should know that he plays here similar all right, exactly,
- 32:47Speaker 1: all right? What are you guys up to with with
- 32:48Speaker 1: the draft? Check the mic?
- 32:52Speaker 5: Yep, check the mic.
- 32:53Speaker 8: We're gonna be live on YouTube starting a half hour
- 32:55Speaker 8: before the draft.
- 32:56Speaker 5: We'll be there for every first round pick.
- 32:58Speaker 8: We'll be there on day two for every second and
- 33:00Speaker 8: a third round pick, then recapping everything right after. It'll
- 33:03Speaker 8: probably be about twenty five hours of content throughout this weekend,
- 33:05Speaker 8: so be sure to join us.
- 33:07Speaker 1: You guys will be doing great as always. Man, thank
- 33:08Speaker 1: you so much. We'll talk to you. We'll put a
- 33:10Speaker 1: rap on our visits with a rap on the draft
- 33:12Speaker 1: next week.
- 33:12Speaker 5: All right, sounds great, appreciate it. Happy draft Dve.
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- 34:31Speaker 1: from Sea Palozolo. On the eve of the NFL Draft,
- 34:33Speaker 1: I should point out we will be of course live
- 34:34Speaker 1: out of the Virginia Mason Athletics Center really for the
- 34:38Speaker 1: next three days morning, noon and night, well not morning
- 34:41Speaker 1: but noon to night and going on the air like
- 34:44Speaker 1: we I do like to think that we do a
- 34:47Speaker 1: hell of a job with our draft coverage, and if
- 34:49Speaker 1: nothing else, maybe we don't do a great job. But
- 34:51Speaker 1: we're on more than anybody, so we don't have other
- 34:54Speaker 1: things to worry about, no baseball, anything like that. So
- 34:56Speaker 1: we will be on until more than likely nine o'clock
- 35:00Speaker 1: each of the next two nights, Thursday and Friday, depending
- 35:02Speaker 1: on what happens tomorrow. We always will wait for John
- 35:05Speaker 1: Schneider and Mike McDonald to come out after the rounds
- 35:07Speaker 1: are over and they do the post draft news conference,
- 35:11Speaker 1: and we'll carry those and react to that. Rob Wrang
- 35:14Speaker 1: will be with us. Hugh Millen will be with us
- 35:16Speaker 1: out there. I say with us, because once Softy signs
- 35:19Speaker 1: off at seven, I'll jump back on from seven until
- 35:22Speaker 1: whenever we need to go both Thursday and Friday for
- 35:25Speaker 1: for our draft coverage, of course, first round on Friday
- 35:27Speaker 1: on Thursday, second and third rounds coming up on Friday,
- 35:32Speaker 1: and then back with you at nine a m early
- 35:37Speaker 1: nine am on Saturday. And all I can tell you
- 35:39Speaker 1: is this, I am hoping, praying that they make some trades,
- 35:44Speaker 1: so we're not waiting until round six on Saturday, which
- 35:47Speaker 1: would be about the time Anders comes.
- 35:48Speaker 5: On the air.
- 35:49Speaker 1: Yes around to Oli kid, let's go. Yes, you guys
- 35:52Speaker 1: are doing the wrap up show again right three to five.
- 35:54Speaker 4: I'll be right after my marriage postcast, so I'll be
- 35:57Speaker 4: kind of rolling into vMac right around that time.
- 36:00Speaker 1: So we'll be doing that. It'll be Rang and I
- 36:02Speaker 1: noon nine to noon on Saturday, and then Chuck Powell,
- 36:05Speaker 1: mister Draft miss himself will roll in there at noon
- 36:09Speaker 1: and then away we go. Be interesting to see we
- 36:12Speaker 1: have not again paid a lot of attention at least
- 36:14Speaker 1: on this show to the first round. I'm glad to
- 36:17Speaker 1: get Steve on a moment ago to kind of get
- 36:19Speaker 1: his thoughts. Raiders, Jets, Cardinals, Titans, Giants are the top
- 36:23Speaker 1: five picks Brown's commander, Saints, Chiefs and Giants again are
- 36:28Speaker 1: the next five. That's your top ten, Like we're talking
- 36:31Speaker 1: with him a moment ago with Steve, the question is
- 36:33Speaker 1: like who drops? When do they drop? What happens along
- 36:37Speaker 1: the way? The Rubin Bain things an interesting one. Still,
- 36:42Speaker 1: you don't want to pass on the guy that could
- 36:44Speaker 1: be an impact player. Are there concerns about the car accident?
- 36:48Speaker 1: Are the concerns about the short arm. I'm not sure.
- 36:51Speaker 1: I did think it was interesting when he talked about
- 36:53Speaker 1: the run on offensive tackles. That always is like, I
- 36:57Speaker 1: think corners could also. We've talked about that with Coselle.
- 36:59Speaker 1: We could have a corner run as well. Uh And
- 37:01Speaker 1: how does that affect Seattle? I don't know, man. I
- 37:04Speaker 1: think the only thing that's going to really affect Seattle
- 37:06Speaker 1: is finding that dance partner for thirty two. And Steve
- 37:08Speaker 1: says he thinks it might be a little easier than
- 37:11Speaker 1: some others to move that pick because they want to
- 37:14Speaker 1: move that pick. There ain't no doubt about it. They
- 37:18Speaker 1: need to move that they have. Now they have a
- 37:20Speaker 1: lot of picks. Next year, they can do some things
- 37:22Speaker 1: to try to get accumulate more picks. On Day three,
- 37:24Speaker 1: there's there's probably zero percent chances are going to end
- 37:27Speaker 1: up with just the one pick, the round six pick
- 37:29Speaker 1: on Saturday as well. I say that wishing it out loud,
- 37:33Speaker 1: because if Rob and I are there for three hours
- 37:35Speaker 1: and no picks, what the hell we talk about it?
- 37:37Speaker 3: That makes something happen.
- 37:39Speaker 4: React to day too, he and react to day too
- 37:41Speaker 4: for the whole Day three, you.
- 37:41Speaker 1: Know, yeah, we will well because and they will be
- 37:44Speaker 1: busy on day two. Right now, they have the two
- 37:45Speaker 1: picks on day two, and that's probably where you find
- 37:49Speaker 1: your running back. Yeap, that's probably where you find your cornerback.
- 37:54Speaker 1: Schneider said something interesting on Monday about he did. He said,
- 37:58Speaker 1: you don't draft in terms of need. You draft in
- 38:01Speaker 1: terms of roster need. You know, like everyone needs like
- 38:06Speaker 1: a great edge rusher or a great whatever, Right, but
- 38:09Speaker 1: what's your roster need? Well, their roster need is really simple.
- 38:12Speaker 1: It's their roster need. Top of the list, with I mean,
- 38:16Speaker 1: without a question, top of the list is a running
- 38:19Speaker 1: back in my opinion. Number two on that list is
- 38:23Speaker 1: probably a cornerback, and number three is an edge rusher.
- 38:26Speaker 4: And that doesn't mean they're picking or running back with
- 38:27Speaker 4: their first.
- 38:28Speaker 1: Pick, no, but those are your roster needs going into
- 38:33Speaker 1: going into training camp, going into mini camp, going alls.
- 38:36Speaker 1: Those are your roster needs. All right, we'll take a break.
- 38:38Speaker 1: We'll come back much more to come two o'clock hour
- 38:41Speaker 1: or one o'clock hour. We'll check in with Jason Bottroll,
- 38:43Speaker 1: the crack and general manager. He's coming up on nine
- 38:45Speaker 1: three point three KJR FM.
- 38:49Speaker 6: Now from the Star Rentals Sports to us Jordan ninety
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- 38:59Speaker 6: Mariners lose again last night the A's of Sacramento, Vegas,
- 39:04Speaker 6: wherever the hell they're from.
- 39:05Speaker 1: They do lose a series. That's not good, ten to
- 39:08Speaker 1: fifteen on the season. It's also that's a typical Mariner start.
- 39:11Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken along the way Andrews am I
- 39:13Speaker 1: correct in that regard.
- 39:14Speaker 4: Honestly, probably a little bit worse than a typical Mariner start.
- 39:17Speaker 1: So hey right, hey, Ryan, heleys on TV again? Ah see,
- 39:22Speaker 1: oh he is. It's good on TV. I like the
- 39:24Speaker 1: he does, like the beard. I like the beard. Yeah,
- 39:27Speaker 1: pick crowd on him?
- 39:28Speaker 4: Okay, Ah?
- 39:30Speaker 1: What else going on? NBA HL playoffs get you to night.
- 39:34Speaker 1: Too many games to talk about. Although I don't know
- 39:36Speaker 1: if you know this, The Utah Mammoth won their first
- 39:39Speaker 1: ever playoff game last night, first ever in so the
- 39:42Speaker 1: expansion teams in the in the playoffs before the expanish
- 39:45Speaker 1: the Expansion Utah Mammoth, yes, yes, in their second year
- 39:48Speaker 1: of existence. Where do they get all those good players?
- 39:51Speaker 1: It's weird. I don't know how they got those guys
- 39:53Speaker 1: in there for just two years. Why can't the krack
- 39:55Speaker 1: and do that? They should, They should try to do that,
- 39:57Speaker 1: get good players like that. You know, God, I am,
- 40:00Speaker 1: I am gonna I'm gonna blow my gas. I know
- 40:02Speaker 1: you are.
- 40:02Speaker 4: That's why I did it.
- 40:04Speaker 1: But it's like, seriously, like we what are we talking
- 40:06Speaker 1: about here? These gays, all their good players came from
- 40:10Speaker 1: Arizona with a couple of trade exceptions. By the way,
- 40:12Speaker 1: I did enjoy Brandon Tanna getting all of six minutes
- 40:14Speaker 1: of ice timeline. Yes, yeah, they're realizing that. Meanwhile, color
- 40:19Speaker 1: you have a Moto getting like double that. So all right,
- 40:22Speaker 1: we move on. Blazers did get a win last night
- 40:24Speaker 1: over San Antonio and the NBA playoffs. Wemby's hurt got
- 40:28Speaker 1: a concussion that might change that series. Yeah, Blazers are
- 40:32Speaker 1: kind of battling there. Wonder how fast I can get
- 40:36Speaker 1: to the snow call Me Casino today and the specifically
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- 40:44Speaker 1: I'll be curious to see concussion out of Colongison. I'm
- 40:46Speaker 1: gonna touch it on those guys in just a couple
- 40:48Speaker 1: of seconds as well. Jess, do you want to wait
- 40:50Speaker 1: for a minute before we get to the word of
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- 40:52Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll do it before we get to Bottleilla at
- 40:55Speaker 2: one twenty, but it'll be in this segment.
- 40:57Speaker 3: We'll give it just all right, give it a little time.
- 40:59Speaker 1: All right, let's go to alert number two.
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- 41:22Speaker 1: All right, second out of the show. Welcome back. Four
- 41:24Speaker 1: nine four to five one. That is the to Covida's text.
- 41:26Speaker 4: Line four nine four five one.
- 41:29Speaker 1: Thoughts, comments, questions, concerns, fire away four nine four five one.
- 41:36Speaker 6: Uh.
- 41:38Speaker 1: I read the story this morning. Finally, I don't know
- 41:42Speaker 1: if you guys have read it for the app from
- 41:44Speaker 1: the Athletic on Tom on Tom Condon the new uh,
- 41:50Speaker 1: the owner of the U of the Blazers. Blazers went
- 41:55Speaker 1: last night one six one o three over the San
- 41:58Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs. Like San Antonio many, they messed that game up,
- 42:04Speaker 1: something fierce foul early get a chance instead they don't.
- 42:07Speaker 1: But that's beside the point Blazers win. But that's not
- 42:10Speaker 1: the talk. The talk in that game was on around
- 42:15Speaker 1: this series actually is one hundred percent new ownership there.
- 42:21Speaker 1: And it's a cautionary tale, I think for all of
- 42:24Speaker 1: us here. Sometimes you can hear like, hey, how much
- 42:28Speaker 1: does ownership matter?
- 42:30Speaker 5: Right?
- 42:30Speaker 1: How much does it matter with ownership? How much does
- 42:33Speaker 1: it matter for the fan? Well? I think it matters
- 42:36Speaker 1: a lot, not just if you have a guy that
- 42:38Speaker 1: may move a team, i e. Quainton Bennett, or we
- 42:42Speaker 1: have history here, not just with him but with Ken Barring.
- 42:46Speaker 1: It matters as well in terms of how an organization
- 42:49Speaker 1: is run. Because when Tom Dundan basically doesn't says I
- 42:53Speaker 1: don't care that people say I'm cheap, which he is,
- 42:56Speaker 1: that's great. It affects your front office and the quality
- 42:59Speaker 1: people in your front office. This it affects your game
- 43:00Speaker 1: night production, and it affects the on court performance because
- 43:05Speaker 1: when you want to lowball people. And the story is
- 43:08Speaker 1: that Tiago Splitter, who's his head coach, is intrim head coach.
- 43:11Speaker 1: He took over in really hard circumstances. You think about
- 43:14Speaker 1: what he did this year. He took over a couple
- 43:17Speaker 1: of games into the season when Chauncey Billups got indicted
- 43:20Speaker 1: by a federal grand.
- 43:20Speaker 4: Jury for.
- 43:23Speaker 1: Gambling and money laundering and everything else, basically hanging out
- 43:28Speaker 1: with the mob in a gambling thing. And so Chauncey's out.
- 43:31Speaker 1: They make this guy the new the introim coach. They
- 43:34Speaker 1: kind of thinking, well, maybe we'll this mail this season
- 43:36Speaker 1: in they make the playoffs, they win their first playing game,
- 43:40Speaker 1: get the seventh seed. Of all things. Now they're taking
- 43:43Speaker 1: on a team in San Antonio. This is a two seed,
- 43:45Speaker 1: but their best player may be missing multiple games in Wemby.
- 43:50Speaker 1: But all this is going on, Splitter doesn't know if
- 43:53Speaker 1: he's going to be the coach next year. The players
- 43:55Speaker 1: are all pushing for him. Most of the media that
- 43:58Speaker 1: covers the team thinks that the guy should get the job.
- 44:01Speaker 1: He's kind of thought to be an up and coming coach.
- 44:03Speaker 1: When he got the job, he got a slight bump
- 44:06Speaker 1: in pay on the interrom level. He's making less than
- 44:10Speaker 1: a million dollars a year by NBA coaches standards. That's
- 44:13Speaker 1: about one fifth to one sixth of the average coach
- 44:16Speaker 1: in the league. Now, again, interroim guy, you wouldn't expect
- 44:18Speaker 1: him to make that kind of money, but you may
- 44:21Speaker 1: expect him to make I don't know more than more
- 44:24Speaker 1: than eight hundred grand. Tom Dundon is bad for business.
- 44:29Speaker 1: He's bad for the NBA. I bring that up for
- 44:33Speaker 1: this reason. The Seahawks are for sale. Please please, NFL
- 44:40Speaker 1: make sure we don't have a Tom Dundon or another
- 44:42Speaker 1: Ken bearing. I trust the NFL a little bit more
- 44:45Speaker 1: than I trust Adam Silver. But I'm telling you right now,
- 44:50Speaker 1: it's a concern. It is one hundred percent of concern
- 44:54Speaker 1: with this or with with ownership in in sports Dundon.
- 45:00Speaker 1: There's a big Now, I think this part of it's silly.
- 45:02Speaker 1: One of the big things that they're talking about and
- 45:04Speaker 1: kind of losing their mind about right now is whether
- 45:08Speaker 1: or not they're gonna have T shirts on on the
- 45:12Speaker 1: seats in the in the Modus Center on Friday. And
- 45:15Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do towels or actually they're gonna
- 45:17Speaker 1: do towels. Now. They're doing like like noise makers right
- 45:20Speaker 1: for the atmosphere. Fans are mad they're not getting a
- 45:23Speaker 1: T shirt. First of all, a one size all fits
- 45:26Speaker 1: T shirt does not one size fit all right, right,
- 45:29Speaker 1: It's I.
- 45:29Speaker 3: Think sleep shirt for some people and.
- 45:32Speaker 1: Or something that you can fit over one arm right right,
- 45:36Speaker 1: the size medium medium. You know the terrible towel, which
- 45:41Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we did here with the cracking right
- 45:43Speaker 1: didn't they do towels in their playoff appearance? I still
- 45:46Speaker 1: have one too.
- 45:47Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 45:48Speaker 1: I like the towels. I think it makes makes it
- 45:50Speaker 1: look cool. Uh they it makes it really look cool
- 45:52Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Wow, legends are here, Like I
- 45:56Speaker 1: do like that. But people are losing their mind. They're
- 45:59Speaker 1: fighting it reason to say this guy is cheap and
- 46:01Speaker 1: we don't want him here. The NFL when they do
- 46:04Speaker 1: figure out who's going to own the Seahawks moving ahead,
- 46:06Speaker 1: please do not go down that road. Because the one
- 46:09Speaker 1: thing about the Seahawks since Paul Allen bought the team
- 46:13Speaker 1: is since JODI's been running it, it has been one
- 46:15Speaker 1: hundred percent first class. Everything they do is first class.
- 46:20Speaker 1: It's the same thing out here. I I kind of
- 46:23Speaker 1: I bristled, not bristol. I laughed a little bit when
- 46:25Speaker 1: Todd you say, a couple weeks ago or the press
- 46:28Speaker 1: conference last week, he was like, oh, you know, I'm
- 46:29Speaker 1: gonna make sure that players are treated right. You talk
- 46:32Speaker 1: to players here, they are treated right and then some
- 46:37Speaker 1: even some things behind the scenes, so I we'll get
- 46:39Speaker 1: into with families that were ill or players that had
- 46:43Speaker 1: to go home or what have you. It's all taken
- 46:45Speaker 1: care of. Dundin doesn't want to have the three guys
- 46:49Speaker 1: at the end of the bench that are on two
- 46:51Speaker 1: way contracts. Caleb loves one of them, who's a former
- 46:55Speaker 1: Arizona star if you remember him from the G League team.
- 46:57Speaker 1: But theyve got three guys that are on two way contracts.
- 46:59Speaker 1: Doesn't even have those guys traveling to practice with the
- 47:01Speaker 1: team to save money, just like this is the NBA.
- 47:08Speaker 6: Man.
- 47:08Speaker 1: I've worked in minor league sports a lot. I can't
- 47:11Speaker 1: even fathom that happening at that level. So it's a
- 47:15Speaker 1: cautionary tale. Guys like it's a cautionary tale, And I think,
- 47:18Speaker 1: you know, we want to rip on and say negative things,
- 47:21Speaker 1: and sometimes rightfully so about John Stanton the Mariner's ownership.
- 47:25Speaker 1: They're not that bad.
- 47:26Speaker 4: No, they're not not.
- 47:27Speaker 1: Compared to the like this guy sits the bar and
- 47:31Speaker 1: people will bring up the Carolina Hurricanes, the great success
- 47:33Speaker 1: they've had on the ice. They've got a brilliant general
- 47:36Speaker 1: manager and they've got a great coach. Really good coach
- 47:40Speaker 1: that makes up for all the flaws off the ice,
- 47:43Speaker 1: that makes up for the cheap tightening up of things
- 47:46Speaker 1: off the ice. The Blazers think about this, They didn't
- 47:50Speaker 1: even send their digital reporter for their dot com site
- 47:54Speaker 1: and their photographer in today's world, like.
- 47:58Speaker 4: Like that's insane, brook Coles.
- 48:00Speaker 3: Why would you buy a team?
- 48:02Speaker 1: Brooke Oles? And they're doing local TV by the way,
- 48:04Speaker 1: first round? Right, ye are they They're not? Are they not?
- 48:08Speaker 1: I think the NBA is not right. The NBA got
- 48:10Speaker 1: out of that business.
- 48:10Speaker 4: But I know they have national broadcasts for the first round,
- 48:13Speaker 4: but I don't know.
- 48:14Speaker 1: If they're not even traveling. You know, their reporter in
- 48:17Speaker 1: brook Olsen, which is like our version of Piper Show, right,
- 48:20Speaker 1: like what are we doing?
- 48:22Speaker 2: So?
- 48:22Speaker 1: You know? I I it's a great article. Jason Quick
- 48:25Speaker 1: wrote it in the Athletic. I would urge people to
- 48:27Speaker 1: read it. Anytime you say I really care about ownership.
- 48:31Speaker 1: Ownership doesn't matter, read that, do me a favor. Read
- 48:33Speaker 1: that article matter.
- 48:34Speaker 4: And take away all the take away all the cheap
- 48:36Speaker 4: stuff for just the cost cutting measures, which is gross anyway,
- 48:39Speaker 4: like the whole what the way he's going about the
- 48:42Speaker 4: the head coaching stuff with Tiago Splitter, a guy who's
- 48:44Speaker 4: in the midst of their first playoff appearance in what
- 48:47Speaker 4: five years?
- 48:48Speaker 1: Six years? Five years?
- 48:49Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're undermining him by having all this stuff
- 48:53Speaker 4: come out about how you're looking for his replacement while
- 48:55Speaker 4: you're literally in the playoffs trying to compete and doing.
- 48:59Speaker 1: Having to answer questions about that, I know. And then
- 49:02Speaker 1: the story comes out he's talked to all these other coaches.
- 49:04Speaker 1: He's low balled all these guys. Yeah, Michael Malone. Michael
- 49:09Speaker 1: Malone who's got fired by it, was doing TV but
- 49:11Speaker 1: obviously got fired by the Nuggets, who also won a
- 49:14Speaker 1: title with the Nuggets now at North Carolina. He offered
- 49:17Speaker 1: him four million less than North Carolina paid him. What
- 49:20Speaker 1: the coach of the NBA. I think about that, Yeah,
- 49:23Speaker 1: that's it's It's bad. The other part of it that
- 49:27Speaker 1: comes into play for me. Honestly, he's got no ties
- 49:30Speaker 1: and no loyalty of that city. And there is a
- 49:34Speaker 1: really distinct Clayton Bennett Field of this.
- 49:38Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah.
- 49:39Speaker 4: Very like a very it smells.
- 49:43Speaker 1: Now. They do have one local investor, but he's not
- 49:46Speaker 1: the majority owner. He's a minority owner. It has a
- 49:49Speaker 1: very smelly Clayton Bennett Field to it.
- 49:51Speaker 3: It's like a Major League script and.
- 49:53Speaker 1: You know what. We all know how that turned out?
- 49:55Speaker 1: Not well. Jess, do you have a cash on?
- 49:58Speaker 3: I sure do contest.
- 50:00Speaker 2: Remember it's a Grand Slam cash contest for your chance
- 50:04Speaker 2: at one thousand dollars every single hour, every single weekday
- 50:07Speaker 2: between nine am till or sorry, six am to six pm,
- 50:11Speaker 2: and that is now through May twenty second. And we'll
- 50:15Speaker 2: have a word for you every single hour. And oddly enough,
- 50:19Speaker 2: this hour's word is media.
- 50:21Speaker 1: A how about that? Media? All right? Go to nine
- 50:23Speaker 1: three three KJR dot com and get that in. We'll
- 50:25Speaker 1: take a break. Come back Jason Bottroll, the GM of
- 50:27Speaker 1: the Seattle Kraken. We'll sit down with him. What's next
- 50:30Speaker 1: for this franchise rebuild? Is that a word that's uh
- 50:35Speaker 1: that's being thrown out there? We'll find out we're the
- 50:37Speaker 1: thirty two bar and grill and uh let's uh. Let's
- 50:40Speaker 1: take a break and hear from Jason Botrol coming up next.
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- 51:31Speaker 1: All right, welcome back in Sports Radio ninety three point
- 51:34Speaker 1: three kJ RFM. We are on Draft E for the
- 51:37Speaker 1: NFL Draft. We're checks date, what about two weeks away
- 51:42Speaker 1: from the NHL Draft lottery, NHL Draft weekend last weekend
- 51:46Speaker 1: in June. Lots of draft talk, lots of off season
- 51:49Speaker 1: talk for a lot of teams in town. Enjoining me
- 51:52Speaker 1: right now, Jason Bottroll, the GM Executive Vice president GM.
- 51:55Speaker 1: I think that's the title now, right of the Seattle Kraken.
- 51:57Speaker 1: He's the guy in charge, and he's enough to sit
- 52:00Speaker 1: down with us here at the thirty two Bar and
- 52:01Speaker 1: Grill Cracking Community ice Plex. Had his news conference this morning,
- 52:04Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, We're the crack and
- 52:06Speaker 1: flagship station. Damn it. We're gonna have them on one
- 52:08Speaker 1: on one afterwards and just give them the real hard
- 52:10Speaker 1: hitting questions. But they'll follow up on a lot of
- 52:12Speaker 1: stuff we had today. How are I man?
- 52:14Speaker 4: Very good?
- 52:14Speaker 11: Thank you, Thank you for having me.
- 52:15Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on. We you and I have
- 52:17Speaker 1: done this a couple of times here we did. We
- 52:19Speaker 1: did a couple of season ticket things this year.
- 52:21Speaker 7: Yep.
- 52:22Speaker 1: This is an ongoing process in terms of putting this
- 52:24Speaker 1: hockey team together, and we're gonna get to that in
- 52:26Speaker 1: a second. Let's take a step back. For folks that
- 52:29Speaker 1: maybe didn't hear it live this morning, and cracking fans
- 52:31Speaker 1: didn't hear it, let's just get your thirty thousand foot view,
- 52:34Speaker 1: although you're far from that, but just your overall view
- 52:36Speaker 1: of this past season.
- 52:37Speaker 7: Past season. Let's let's go with us start.
- 52:40Speaker 11: You know, we brought in, we made a lot of
- 52:42Speaker 11: changes both on the ice and off the ice. New
- 52:44Speaker 11: coaches brought in, some new players, wanted to work with
- 52:48Speaker 11: some of our younger players, such as the Berkmancatton. You know,
- 52:51Speaker 11: I was happy at where our group was going. If
- 52:55Speaker 11: you said at the Olympic break, I really happy how
- 52:58Speaker 11: we performed in January. I think we had seventeen games
- 53:01Speaker 11: in the month of January, really tough stretch. I want
- 53:03Speaker 11: to say we went ten to five and two. Proud
- 53:06Speaker 11: of you know, how we handled it there, Proud of
- 53:08Speaker 11: the adversity that we'd already gone through in the season.
- 53:11Speaker 11: It wasn't just all smooth sailing. We obviously we had
- 53:14Speaker 11: some injuries at the start of December, went through a
- 53:16Speaker 11: one to nine and one stretch. And the fact that
- 53:18Speaker 11: we had that one nine to one stretch and then
- 53:20Speaker 11: turned that right into I think it was an eight
- 53:21Speaker 11: oho to two stretch to me shows you know, leadership
- 53:25Speaker 11: showed you know, drive from the group type of thing
- 53:28Speaker 11: for sure, and put it on the right track. And uh,
- 53:30Speaker 11: you know, we got to the Olympic break. You know,
- 53:33Speaker 11: I liked how we played it in January. I think
- 53:34Speaker 11: we won something, you know, our last four or five
- 53:37Speaker 11: home games, uh there, and then went in you know,
- 53:40Speaker 11: went into Vegas, Anaheim, LA won two out of three.
- 53:44Speaker 11: So it was feeling good about being in a playoff
- 53:46Speaker 11: spot at the Olympic break, in a playoff spot the
- 53:49Speaker 11: trade deadline. At the end of the day, we didn't
- 53:51Speaker 11: get it done.
- 53:52Speaker 1: Uh.
- 53:53Speaker 7: It was.
- 53:54Speaker 11: It was a frustrating month of March and April. Not
- 53:57Speaker 11: finding enough wins to find a way to get into
- 54:00Speaker 11: the playoffs, you know, is disappointing that, you know, we
- 54:05Speaker 11: had some key wins against Carolina, Vegas, Tampa Bay, but
- 54:10Speaker 11: playing against some of the teams that we were really
- 54:12Speaker 11: battling for a position, whether it was Nashville, Utah, Saint Louis,
- 54:15Speaker 11: those games really hurt us from that standpoint. So overall,
- 54:18Speaker 11: the way we look at it, there's frustration, there's disappointment
- 54:22Speaker 11: because in our eyes, it's a missed opportunity just the
- 54:25Speaker 11: way our division set up this year, it was a
- 54:27Speaker 11: missed opportunity for capitalizing on getting in the playoffs.
- 54:30Speaker 1: Bots was this So along those lines, I look, you
- 54:34Speaker 1: know in the month by month was a fascinating study, right,
- 54:37Speaker 1: You're looking what this team did five two and three
- 54:39Speaker 1: out of the gate, ten five and five to start
- 54:41Speaker 1: the season, really rough December at times, and then you
- 54:45Speaker 1: mentioned it January ten five and two and strong heading
- 54:49Speaker 1: into the Olympic break, solving in third place in the
- 54:51Speaker 1: Pacific and then just seven wins after the Olympic break. Yep.
- 54:54Speaker 1: So with that as context, did this team overachieve in
- 54:59Speaker 1: month it's like January? Or did they were they kind
- 55:03Speaker 1: of over there? Did they just underachieve at the end?
- 55:05Speaker 1: Like what who were who were the krakend this year?
- 55:08Speaker 11: Well, probably a little bit of both in that regards
- 55:10Speaker 11: for sure, right Like you look at some of our
- 55:13Speaker 11: numbers and stuff, like we had outstanding goaltending in January,
- 55:17Speaker 11: we had exceptional power play in January, and that sort
- 55:21Speaker 11: of helped us carry along. I think at the start
- 55:22Speaker 11: of the year we were a little bit more balanced,
- 55:24Speaker 11: doing a better job at five on five.
- 55:27Speaker 5: You know.
- 55:27Speaker 11: And I think it's just it's the situation of you know,
- 55:30Speaker 11: you've heard it from some other teams in the league too,
- 55:32Speaker 11: just how much things ramp up heading into the playoffs.
- 55:35Speaker 11: And I think there was a clear you know, in
- 55:37Speaker 11: most years, you just don't know when does the really
- 55:39Speaker 11: the big playoff push start. Well, it was very clear
- 55:42Speaker 11: this year because of Olympic break as soon as that
- 55:44Speaker 11: Olympic grant that the playoff push was going on. And
- 55:47Speaker 11: it's something that we have.
- 55:48Speaker 4: To review moving forward here.
- 55:50Speaker 11: We felt we did things the right way coming out
- 55:52Speaker 11: of the Olympic break, but clearly, you know, our record
- 55:56Speaker 11: after that wasn't good enough. It's something that we will
- 55:58Speaker 11: have to dig into a little bit more on just
- 56:00Speaker 11: what we did from a practice standpoint, what did our
- 56:02Speaker 11: players do during that break just to put them in
- 56:04Speaker 11: a better opportunity for success moving forward.
- 56:06Speaker 1: I was I was a little surprised a couple times
- 56:10Speaker 1: when I heard Lane mention things like, yeah, guys are
- 56:14Speaker 1: trying to get used to what you just said. Like
- 56:17Speaker 1: after the Olympic break, it was like everyone's full throttle,
- 56:20Speaker 1: and you gave this team an opportunity. You went out
- 56:22Speaker 1: and picked up a thirty goal scorer Bobby McMahon and
- 56:24Speaker 1: did all that. But he said, you know, we're not
- 56:27Speaker 1: matching the intensity level on paraphrasing or some of the
- 56:29Speaker 1: other teams. You just kind of alluded to that as well.
- 56:31Speaker 1: I'm thinking, yeah, well, there's a team here that's got
- 56:33Speaker 1: a bunch of guys that were on that playoff team
- 56:35Speaker 1: and have playoff experience. I mean, your core guys have
- 56:38Speaker 1: been there. Was that all on the young guys because
- 56:41Speaker 1: Jared McCann almost kind of insinuated that in his press conference,
- 56:43Speaker 1: So I was kind of trying to figure that one out.
- 56:45Speaker 11: No, what I would say too is, look, we did
- 56:47Speaker 11: have run into some injuries with Schwartz and mccannn not
- 56:49Speaker 11: being in our lineup, and that really hurt us and stuff.
- 56:51Speaker 11: For sure. We've talked about it all year, Right, how
- 56:54Speaker 11: do we win? We win with our depth, you know,
- 56:57Speaker 11: there's some teams in the league with star power. They
- 57:00Speaker 11: have an injury or two in their second line or
- 57:01Speaker 11: third line, it doesn't even impact them that much because
- 57:04Speaker 11: of their star power. I think throughout our season this year,
- 57:08Speaker 11: you notice whenever a couple players were out because we
- 57:11Speaker 11: had to utilize on our depth so much. From that standpoint,
- 57:14Speaker 11: we have some veteran players. I think it's a learning
- 57:18Speaker 11: experience for our younger players to be a part of it.
- 57:21Speaker 11: You know, what I would say is there's a challenge
- 57:23Speaker 11: to our veteran players because a lot of our veteran
- 57:25Speaker 11: players are on say the power playing stuff too. In
- 57:27Speaker 11: the power play which was clicking so well at top
- 57:29Speaker 11: ten pretty much in the league until Limprigage went quiet.
- 57:32Speaker 11: That's something that we have to improve on for March
- 57:34Speaker 11: and April. I think with their young players, there's a
- 57:36Speaker 11: reason why these young players are in the NHL at
- 57:38Speaker 11: such a young age. They are driven, like there's an
- 57:41Speaker 11: edge to them. They are wanting to be in the
- 57:43Speaker 11: National Hoccha League. You know Berkeley cat And may have
- 57:46Speaker 11: a big smile on his face most time, but he's
- 57:48Speaker 11: a driven young man and stuff. These players such as
- 57:51Speaker 11: you know Jacob Malants and Ryan Wintern and have played
- 57:54Speaker 11: ahl playoff games. They know they're ready to play in
- 57:57Speaker 11: the National Hockeleague. Now, you know, you can always say, oh,
- 57:59Speaker 11: let's just play the young kids. It takes time for them.
- 58:01Speaker 11: And then this year was the first year where we
- 58:03Speaker 11: felt those two players especially were ready to play at
- 58:05Speaker 11: the national league. They get here, but it's always in
- 58:08Speaker 11: a unique situation, and that was at least a positive
- 58:11Speaker 11: on the team is that we were in the playoff
- 58:13Speaker 11: hot hunt to about the week to go in the season.
- 58:15Speaker 11: They were playing important games, finding out how strong the
- 58:19Speaker 11: one to one battle while a battle it is, how
- 58:21Speaker 11: difficult is get to the front at how you know,
- 58:24Speaker 11: in so many of these games against say Saint Louis
- 58:26Speaker 11: or Nashville, it wasn't a big difference, but it's just
- 58:30Speaker 11: that one goal that won play. And I think that
- 58:33Speaker 11: experience is so valuable for our young younger players and understanding, hey,
- 58:37Speaker 11: how much stronger they have to get in the offseason
- 58:39Speaker 11: and just what the intensity has to be every game,
- 58:42Speaker 11: because I do think, you know, I always referenced the
- 58:45Speaker 11: game in Tampa Bay. You know, that was a game
- 58:47Speaker 11: where they were very physical against us at the end
- 58:50Speaker 11: of March there. We got the lead early. They wanted
- 58:52Speaker 11: to push it to get the victory. They were battling
- 58:55Speaker 11: for playoff position at the time, and we stood up
- 58:58Speaker 11: to it and we pushed back and we handled it
- 58:59Speaker 11: very well, and that was it was a proud game.
- 59:01Speaker 11: But that's what we have to do over a course
- 59:03Speaker 11: of eighty.
- 59:03Speaker 1: Two games, and that's the challenge. Yeah, that's that was
- 59:06Speaker 1: the mind boggling part at times. And I'm sure for
- 59:08Speaker 1: you the frustrating part is you'd see, I mean, the
- 59:11Speaker 1: Carolina home game was an incredible hockey game.
- 59:13Speaker 5: Yep.
- 59:14Speaker 1: That team came in here, they had the best record
- 59:15Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference. They are rolling, They play a hard,
- 59:18Speaker 1: heavy game. You guys matched it and then someone got
- 59:20Speaker 1: that win Tampa, Florida. Obviously Florida was down this season,
- 59:24Speaker 1: but going down, there's no joke the Buffalo that that
- 59:27Speaker 1: little trip was. You get some points out of those
- 59:29Speaker 1: final three games and you're thinking, Okay, they've they've turned
- 59:31Speaker 1: the corner. But you mentioned it. Injuries are one thing. Special.
- 59:34Speaker 1: Teams faulting, you know, kind of falling apart did another thing.
- 59:37Speaker 1: Let me take one other step back before we look
- 59:39Speaker 1: ahead of the future. And what's gonna happen in this offseason? Jason,
- 59:42Speaker 1: And that would be this, Uh, when you were hired
- 59:44Speaker 1: last year or not hire? Promoted from within and you've
- 59:47Speaker 1: been here since day one, but you were pumped up
- 59:49Speaker 1: and Ron was also bumped up as well. Remember you
- 59:51Speaker 1: and I sat here and talked about it, and and
- 59:52Speaker 1: Todd told us like, hey, this is your team. Then
- 59:56Speaker 1: Ron leaves and there's like the mixed message. How did
- 59:58Speaker 1: it work this year in terms so who had the
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: final say, who would making the player moves, who were
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: doing who was doing everything? Yeah, and then how does
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: that change this offseason? Or does it? It really doesn't
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: look at the day. I utilize Ron as a resource
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: all the time. You know, he's a mentor of mine. Uh,
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: He's the reason I'm at in the organization. He's the
- 1:00:16Speaker 1: reason why our entire Hockey Ups organization is here.
- 1:00:19Speaker 5: For sure.
- 1:00:21Speaker 11: Ron also was a former GM, and he made it
- 1:00:23Speaker 11: clear at the press conference last year and and and
- 1:00:26Speaker 11: just our discussion. You know, you can't be a general
- 1:00:28Speaker 11: manager without having that final say in his mind, and
- 1:00:31Speaker 11: that's how you have to have success. And look, I
- 1:00:34Speaker 11: utilize him as a resource for sure in our organization
- 1:00:37Speaker 11: We have a lot of collaboration, whether it's it's with ownership,
- 1:00:40Speaker 11: whether it's with our you know, our scouts, with our
- 1:00:43Speaker 11: with our staff. There's always collaboration from that standpoint, But
- 1:00:47Speaker 11: as a general manager, I have to make the final
- 1:00:48Speaker 11: decision on that, and that's certainly what what materialized moving
- 1:00:51Speaker 11: forward here. You know, it's certainly it's emotional and it's
- 1:00:56Speaker 11: tough not having run around every day, just being blunt
- 1:00:58Speaker 11: with you from that standpoint, but I'm also I trust
- 1:01:01Speaker 11: our staff. I trust that we have some people with
- 1:01:05Speaker 11: some great ideas that can handle more of a role.
- 1:01:08Speaker 11: Last year we brought in Ryan Jankowski to help from
- 1:01:12Speaker 11: player development standpoint and amateur scouting, and his sort of
- 1:01:14Speaker 11: new ideas and fresh ideas I think have been very
- 1:01:16Speaker 11: helpful not only in those departments, but hey, when we're
- 1:01:20Speaker 11: starting starting to talk about players that he has a
- 1:01:22Speaker 11: rolodex on, you know, these players from other organizations and
- 1:01:26Speaker 11: stuff that he's seen over the years. Over the next
- 1:01:28Speaker 11: couple of months here will continue to look at different
- 1:01:31Speaker 11: people to possibly bring into our organization to make it stronger,
- 1:01:34Speaker 11: to make sure that we have the right people in
- 1:01:36Speaker 11: place to make the right decisions.
- 1:01:37Speaker 1: Next year, the Yeah, that's an interesting dynamic too because
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: there have been very few changes in the hockey ops department.
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: I mean, Tampa goes to Tampa, you bring Ryan in,
- 1:01:46Speaker 1: But I mean really, for the most part, it's kind
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: of been intact along the way, and you're building this
- 1:01:50Speaker 1: thing up. What do you hear from ownership? What's Because
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: we heard Todd today in the disk conference, and I
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: mean if I if I when I listen toddlight Wiki,
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: I hear a guy that is he's been in pro
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: sports for wherever he wants to win. I think he
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: probably is parroting what Sam and the ownership group think
- 1:02:05Speaker 1: is Well, what's there, what's their message to you? What
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: is their directive to you in terms of getting this
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: thing back into the postseason, whether it's next year or
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: is it five years down the road.
- 1:02:14Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's built.
- 1:02:16Speaker 11: Let's let's keep building, right Like a big part of development,
- 1:02:19Speaker 11: big part of it is winning. So keep working on.
- 1:02:21Speaker 11: From that standpoint, we understand that there needs to be changes,
- 1:02:24Speaker 11: there needs to be additions to this group, but we
- 1:02:27Speaker 11: also are very excited about where this group's going, and
- 1:02:30Speaker 11: we have to make some adjustments and different things. We
- 1:02:32Speaker 11: have younger players coming up who are going to be
- 1:02:34Speaker 11: ready to hind If we can find some more players,
- 1:02:36Speaker 11: especially at the Ford group, that have sort of a
- 1:02:39Speaker 11: history of scoring in this league, I think that will
- 1:02:41Speaker 11: help out a lot from that standpoint. But no, we
- 1:02:44Speaker 11: feel that there's a lot of things in place, correct,
- 1:02:47Speaker 11: so we want to build off of that.
- 1:02:48Speaker 1: Do they put pressure on you to win right away?
- 1:02:50Speaker 1: I mean, and I say that not in a negative way,
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: but I mean, is there pressure that, hey, this thing
- 1:02:56Speaker 1: has to get back into the postseason?
- 1:02:57Speaker 11: Asa they don't look the conversations and like it's not like, hey,
- 1:03:02Speaker 11: you have to be in the playoffs next year. You
- 1:03:04Speaker 11: want growth, you want it's what we all want to be.
- 1:03:07Speaker 11: Who doesn't want to be You've watched NHL Hockey last
- 1:03:09Speaker 11: couple of nights, Like, who doesn't want to be a
- 1:03:11Speaker 11: part of that environment right now?
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: Stuff? Right?
- 1:03:13Speaker 11: You know you're jis you go through you know, the
- 1:03:16Speaker 11: player exit meetings last week. That's part of the reason
- 1:03:18Speaker 11: why there's such a depression and disappointment is because like,
- 1:03:21Speaker 11: you want to be a part of that energy, that excitement,
- 1:03:24Speaker 11: and to put bluntly, like our coaches and our players
- 1:03:26Speaker 11: the hours that they put in during the year you
- 1:03:29Speaker 11: can say, which is that like, yes, we're disappointing it,
- 1:03:31Speaker 11: but like they want to that's ultimately as the Stanley Cup.
- 1:03:36Speaker 11: But a big part of it is to be in
- 1:03:38Speaker 11: part of those environments where you have a billing just
- 1:03:40Speaker 11: packed and there's an energy and intensity that's just through
- 1:03:43Speaker 11: the roof. So yes, that's where we want to get
- 1:03:46Speaker 11: back to. It's you know, we want to make sure
- 1:03:49Speaker 11: that we continue to build it the right way for
- 1:03:51Speaker 11: success of getting into the playoffs and then eventually after
- 1:03:54Speaker 11: years experience, to really push through to be a national
- 1:03:57Speaker 11: you know, to be a Stanley Cup champion and stuff
- 1:03:59Speaker 11: that's going to take time. From that bit, they understand
- 1:04:01Speaker 11: that bit. So it's always that balance of hey, how
- 1:04:04Speaker 11: do we help the group right now while continue to build.
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: I always Jason Bondervill joining us. I've and not just
- 1:04:12Speaker 1: because you're sitting across from me. This is one of
- 1:04:14Speaker 1: those things in sports media that drives me nuts. I
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: hear rebuild all the time. Are you rebuilding a retooling,
- 1:04:18Speaker 1: you're reimagining or whatever, And there's people say the krack
- 1:04:23Speaker 1: and need to tear it down and rebuild it back up,
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: and I counter with, well, like define what that is yep.
- 1:04:29Speaker 1: So I'll ask you what is this organization in. Is
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: it a rebuild you need to rebuild? Is there such
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: a thing as a rebuild? Is it a retool? Is
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: a reimagination? What is where is this franchise right now?
- 1:04:39Speaker 11: I'll go back to what I said before. We're building.
- 1:04:41Speaker 11: We're building it right. And look to me, it's not
- 1:04:44Speaker 11: always just going to all young players. There's two different
- 1:04:47Speaker 11: things here. If you go all young players, a lot
- 1:04:49Speaker 11: of times they're not ready for it, you know, and
- 1:04:51Speaker 11: it's why we.
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: May take a step back at that point.
- 1:04:54Speaker 11: If you put it, put them in too many different roles,
- 1:04:56Speaker 11: and it's a losing environment NonStop. That doesn't is not
- 1:04:59Speaker 11: successful either, you know. It's Hey, we saw it with
- 1:05:02Speaker 11: Brooken Katton this year. You want to make sure he's
- 1:05:03Speaker 11: in roles that he can have some success, but at times,
- 1:05:06Speaker 11: you know, you have to be patient with him from
- 1:05:08Speaker 11: that standpoint. Look at the two players that we brought
- 1:05:10Speaker 11: up we mentioned earlier, Ryan Winterton Jacob Malonson. I thought
- 1:05:13Speaker 11: both those players helped our group out a lot. Jacob
- 1:05:17Speaker 11: brought a physicality our group that was great. You know,
- 1:05:20Speaker 11: Ryan brought us speed and four check ability that was
- 1:05:23Speaker 11: really good. Whenever he wasn't in the lineup, I think
- 1:05:25Speaker 11: we really missed his speed. From that standpoint, as much
- 1:05:27Speaker 11: as you want to say, like they weren't ready until
- 1:05:29Speaker 11: this year to help our team at the National Hockeygue level.
- 1:05:33Speaker 11: So that's why you know they were part of our
- 1:05:35Speaker 11: first draft in twenty one, I believe it was so. Yes,
- 1:05:38Speaker 11: as much as coming out of that draft, you know,
- 1:05:40Speaker 11: I think we have five players from that draft who
- 1:05:42Speaker 11: played in the National hoche League. Four of them are
- 1:05:44Speaker 11: now almost regular in the National Hockey League. Yeah, Matty
- 1:05:46Speaker 11: Beniers is there in year one right away, but most
- 1:05:49Speaker 11: of them take this long to get there. From that standpoint,
- 1:05:52Speaker 11: you know, we're excited about the twenty two draft. You know,
- 1:05:54Speaker 11: you have players such as Yanny Newman, Furkus, Coco jug
- 1:05:59Speaker 11: Nath Nelson, these players, they're not all of them are
- 1:06:02Speaker 11: ready for the National Hockeleague this year, but next year
- 1:06:04Speaker 11: and the year afterwards, they're gonna be ready for the
- 1:06:05Speaker 11: National Hockey League and add more to our competition and
- 1:06:07Speaker 11: drive From that bit. So to me, it's constantly adding
- 1:06:11Speaker 11: these young players to the mix, but it's also constantly
- 1:06:13Speaker 11: adding veteran players that we know can help.
- 1:06:16Speaker 1: This group moving forward.
- 1:06:17Speaker 11: Getting Jordan Eberley signed at the trade downline was huge
- 1:06:21Speaker 11: just because one he's he's a great leader for our
- 1:06:24Speaker 11: group and two he contributes on the ice and take
- 1:06:27Speaker 11: some of the pressure off some of.
- 1:06:28Speaker 4: Our younger players.
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: So the foundation's in place, okay. So if they built
- 1:06:32Speaker 1: from there, built from within, and away you go, does
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: this team need to be heavier, a little tougher, and
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: I say even bigger. Like I just talking to Lane
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: on Friday, and I just kind of got the impression
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: that he'd like to see like the game is changed,
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: it's evolved, yep. I mean I always joke and I
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: worked in the WHL back in the wild West days
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: and it was a different game in the in the
- 1:06:51Speaker 1: nineties and early two things. But there's still an element
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: out there. Hell we saw at Montreal and Tampa last night, yep,
- 1:06:57Speaker 1: is that one of the things you need to do
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: in the off season. Get a little bit.
- 1:06:59Speaker 11: Bigger, heavy, you know, you know, we want to always
- 1:07:02Speaker 11: want bigger, heavier, more skilled players, right, you always want
- 1:07:05Speaker 11: the perfect well rounded things. And that had of Conor McDavid.
- 1:07:08Speaker 11: While you're out of it exactly, you know, keep keep
- 1:07:10Speaker 11: them going for that staff. But so there's always that balance, right,
- 1:07:13Speaker 11: Like I do think, like you know, for us to
- 1:07:16Speaker 11: be successful, we have to continue to improve our speed.
- 1:07:18Speaker 11: That's it's when you don't have that elite player on
- 1:07:22Speaker 11: your team. To me, when we're successful, we're utilizing our
- 1:07:25Speaker 11: depth and we're having the waves and we're really pressuring
- 1:07:27Speaker 11: play you know, an opposition all over the ice. That's
- 1:07:30Speaker 11: the key element for us to have success. So speed
- 1:07:33Speaker 11: continues to be something that we have to right It's
- 1:07:36Speaker 11: to me, it's our challenge to our strength staff is
- 1:07:38Speaker 11: younger players just trying to get them physically stronger. You know,
- 1:07:42Speaker 11: there's there's so much growth with all these players that
- 1:07:44Speaker 11: we just talked about Malanson Winter to Moule Guard, you
- 1:07:50Speaker 11: know obviously Berkeley, Shane Wright, Maddy Benier's like they're all
- 1:07:54Speaker 11: twenty three and Understill they're still physically growing. And to me,
- 1:07:58Speaker 11: it's it's continuing in the summer, having strong summers where
- 1:08:01Speaker 11: they can add more weight, they can add more strength
- 1:08:04Speaker 11: to handle those those those games. Because you know, to
- 1:08:07Speaker 11: Lane's point and to what you see with your own eyes,
- 1:08:10Speaker 11: there is a difference in the National League in October
- 1:08:13Speaker 11: versus April and you know that's what I think. You know,
- 1:08:17Speaker 11: it's great that our players were at least a part
- 1:08:19Speaker 11: of some of those big games in March and April
- 1:08:21Speaker 11: to see where where the league goes.
- 1:08:23Speaker 1: Can you win in this league without a high end
- 1:08:27Speaker 1: offensive player? And I'll just I mean, everly was your
- 1:08:29Speaker 1: leading score yep, goals and points taking McMahon out of it,
- 1:08:32Speaker 1: sixty fifth in goals, I think it was or one
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: hundred and twentieth in points, And those are rough numbers.
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: Can you win with with those types of numbers? If
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: I know they did three years ago? Yep?
- 1:08:42Speaker 4: But can you still do that? Do you need a
- 1:08:44Speaker 4: high end guy?
- 1:08:44Speaker 11: Look, high end guys certainly help things a little bit.
- 1:08:46Speaker 11: They hid a lot of problems and a lot of
- 1:08:49Speaker 11: mistakes and stuff for sure. It's why we'll continue to
- 1:08:52Speaker 11: look for that type of player if available, right, But
- 1:08:55Speaker 11: in the meantime we'll continue to develop. We truly believe.
- 1:08:58Speaker 11: I believe that when you have strong depth and more
- 1:09:03Speaker 11: throughout your entire lineup, that's what you can help. But
- 1:09:05Speaker 11: I think where this year when we played very well,
- 1:09:07Speaker 11: it was because our power play was going. If you're
- 1:09:09Speaker 11: not going to have that elite player, having a power
- 1:09:11Speaker 11: play that can help you and sort of put you
- 1:09:13Speaker 11: give you that your team, that extra boost that really
- 1:09:15Speaker 11: helped us in the first part of the season is
- 1:09:17Speaker 11: something that we're gonna have to continue to work on,
- 1:09:18Speaker 11: to continue to develop.
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: What kind of step can a guy, what can we
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: expect to see from say a Berkeley Cat next year.
- 1:09:25Speaker 11: Well, I think this guy's the limit for Berkeley just
- 1:09:27Speaker 11: because he hit his hockey sense, his knowledge. He takes
- 1:09:30Speaker 11: so much out of every situation, learns from it. You know,
- 1:09:34Speaker 11: he's a dedicated player off the ice from that standpoint too,
- 1:09:38Speaker 11: on getting strong or getting faster, and you know, it's
- 1:09:40Speaker 11: something that we touched on there. Like you know players,
- 1:09:43Speaker 11: he has speed now showing that speed every day, you know,
- 1:09:47Speaker 11: on every shift. That's where the next thing is is
- 1:09:50Speaker 11: to oh, it's a coff thing. I just understand the game.
- 1:09:54Speaker 11: You know, these kids come from junior where they're playing
- 1:09:56Speaker 11: you know sometimes twenty five to thirty minutes a night.
- 1:10:00Speaker 11: They're almost pacing themselves a little bit outside, you know,
- 1:10:03Speaker 11: or on the game type of thing. You come to
- 1:10:04Speaker 11: the Nation Hockey League and your mints drop from twenty
- 1:10:06Speaker 11: five down to say twelve or thirteen. Hey, you realize like, hey,
- 1:10:10Speaker 11: the game is just that much faster. And I think
- 1:10:12Speaker 11: it's just utilizing, you know, knowing when to utilize your speed,
- 1:10:15Speaker 11: when to continue to attack. And those are the big
- 1:10:17Speaker 11: things that we're gonna work with him on an offseason.
- 1:10:20Speaker 11: And to me, that's where we think there's we know
- 1:10:22Speaker 11: the hockey senses there, we know that the skill is there.
- 1:10:25Speaker 11: It's now just put him in the right positions there.
- 1:10:26Speaker 1: I think it goes without saying I'd be a fool
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: to say that Bobby McMahon wouldn't be a high priority
- 1:10:31Speaker 1: for the off season. He's gonna have a market. We
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: all know that. Having a conversation with him sitting in
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: that same chair last week, he sounded really plausitive about Seattle.
- 1:10:38Speaker 1: I think he's on a golf trip with a bunch
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: of guys right now. I think Cale Flurry, I think
- 1:10:42Speaker 1: is in charge of recruitment right now, giving him some
- 1:10:46Speaker 1: strokes or however it's gonna work out. But is there
- 1:10:50Speaker 1: a chance you could get him done if he does
- 1:10:52Speaker 1: want to stay before the draft or before the free agency?
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: Do you think that's going to go all the way
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: into July.
- 1:10:56Speaker 11: Look, it's something in there. We've stayed in touch with
- 1:10:59Speaker 11: his agent and the communication it's and from our standpoint
- 1:11:02Speaker 11: was a great fit. I think from Bobby's standpoint was
- 1:11:04Speaker 11: a great fit to Just the fact that he's sticking
- 1:11:06Speaker 11: around a little bit longer, I think is a good
- 1:11:08Speaker 11: sign for from that bit. Look, he's worked hard to
- 1:11:11Speaker 11: he's got he's a player that's gone from the EHL
- 1:11:13Speaker 11: to the HL to the AHL. It's a great story
- 1:11:16Speaker 11: behind the scenes with us. It was great to see
- 1:11:17Speaker 11: just his professionalism, how he's always working on his craft too,
- 1:11:21Speaker 11: and just get to know him a little bit more.
- 1:11:23Speaker 11: I think he think the fact that he had a
- 1:11:24Speaker 11: relationship with Lane from Toronto last year was very helpful
- 1:11:27Speaker 11: in making the mix. The connection over here got to
- 1:11:30Speaker 11: play a little bit more than and had a bigger
- 1:11:32Speaker 11: role here than in Toronto and stuff too, So I
- 1:11:34Speaker 11: felt it went very well. Just his interaction with our organization,
- 1:11:38Speaker 11: interaction with the city, the fact that he's staying around
- 1:11:40Speaker 11: a little bit longer too, just to see the environment
- 1:11:42Speaker 11: is a good sign. And you know, this is where
- 1:11:44Speaker 11: we'll have to push things with this agent for sure.
- 1:11:46Speaker 11: At the end of day, you know he's gonna have options.
- 1:11:49Speaker 11: This is a unique environment for him from that standpoint,
- 1:11:51Speaker 11: But no, we were we were glad to get him
- 1:11:54Speaker 11: at the trade deadline, and uh no, we'ld certainly do
- 1:11:57Speaker 11: that over again for sure.
- 1:11:58Speaker 1: Uh And Boss, before I let you go, I just
- 1:12:01Speaker 1: kind of look at the the overall off season. There's
- 1:12:03Speaker 1: gonna be changes. It's that's just the way the NHL works. Yep,
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: what's the easiest that's the wrong word. What's the best
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: way to do it? And you kind of alluded to
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: this in the news conference, But I mean it's like, hey,
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: go out and everyone's got salary cap room right attracting
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: free agents and you can address it if it's a
- 1:12:18Speaker 1: challenge here or not. You talked to Stevenson and Monty
- 1:12:21Speaker 1: and guys like that, Ebbs are stuck around. It feels
- 1:12:23Speaker 1: like if you get people here, you're good. It's just
- 1:12:26Speaker 1: like trying to convince them that's not somewhere out in
- 1:12:28Speaker 1: Alaska or something like that. And but but what's the
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: what's the best way to try to build that? And
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: add to what you just said earlier, Yep, there's a foundation.
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: How do you add to that?
- 1:12:38Speaker 11: So from a free agent market, we'll certainly be engaged
- 1:12:40Speaker 11: with them, but you just look at it right like,
- 1:12:42Speaker 11: it's not a It's not a monster year this year
- 1:12:44Speaker 11: because of the extra cap space and the cap continue
- 1:12:46Speaker 11: to go up, most teams have r av signed their players.
- 1:12:49Speaker 11: So are we going to be engaged? Are we going
- 1:12:51Speaker 11: to be looking at that? Yes, but it can't be
- 1:12:53Speaker 11: your only model in improving your team. I think the
- 1:12:56Speaker 11: bigger area is continuing to find creative ways of developing
- 1:12:58Speaker 11: our own players. That's what we're on too. And hey,
- 1:13:01Speaker 11: it's the trade market. I think that's the way to
- 1:13:03Speaker 11: go it. Looking at different teams that hey, are in
- 1:13:06Speaker 11: similar boat, USTs that maybe just missed the playoffs or
- 1:13:09Speaker 11: wanted to make adjustments to their group. That's what you
- 1:13:12Speaker 11: have to focus in on and stuff a lot.
- 1:13:13Speaker 1: So the word aggressive off season has been used a lot.
- 1:13:17Speaker 1: So aggressive probably means whether it's and you said earlier, yeah, no,
- 1:13:21Speaker 1: I mean this is you're open for business, right like,
- 1:13:24Speaker 1: like you know or would you be open to trading
- 1:13:25Speaker 1: a young guys? I think you said yes, a ton
- 1:13:28Speaker 1: of draft picks as equity and that's probably a really
- 1:13:30Speaker 1: good place to be, right. So to find aggressive off season.
- 1:13:35Speaker 11: Hey, it's our team has to take a step next year, right,
- 1:13:38Speaker 11: we have to continue to go from there. We're going
- 1:13:40Speaker 11: to make changes from that bit and we're going to
- 1:13:42Speaker 11: be involved in Look, trade discussions are always interesting. Sometimes
- 1:13:45Speaker 11: it happens right away, sometimes it takes time. And I
- 1:13:48Speaker 11: can't sit here and say that it's going to happen
- 1:13:49Speaker 11: on you know, June fifteenth or June twenty fifth or
- 1:13:52Speaker 11: July fifteenth, but I can just assure you that, you know,
- 1:13:55Speaker 11: throughout the summer, throughout the fall, we're going to be
- 1:13:58Speaker 11: aggressive and trying to add to our group here and
- 1:14:00Speaker 11: stuff from that standpoint, because we have pieces that we're
- 1:14:02Speaker 11: very proud about. We're excited about some of these pieces,
- 1:14:05Speaker 11: how much they want to be here in Seattle and
- 1:14:07Speaker 11: their growth. Now it's imperative that we find some pieces
- 1:14:10Speaker 11: to support them, to help them and take the nextcept
- 1:14:12Speaker 11: next year.
- 1:14:13Speaker 1: And I know that there's discussions taking place with assistant coaches,
- 1:14:15Speaker 1: So that's still up in the air right with it
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: with Lane's staff, But Lane is back. Correct.
- 1:14:19Speaker 11: Yes, I've enjoyed working with Lane. It's as I said
- 1:14:22Speaker 11: in my press conference, he came as advertised, was very
- 1:14:25Speaker 11: direct with our players, brought the intensity, brought accountability, brought
- 1:14:29Speaker 11: structure to our group, which I like to see and hey, look,
- 1:14:33Speaker 11: I enjoyed having that partnership with him. Over the next
- 1:14:35Speaker 11: couple of weeks here, his staff our players will continue
- 1:14:39Speaker 11: to those that dialogue, then roll into pro scouting medians
- 1:14:42Speaker 11: and amateur scouted meetings, and then obviously the combine at
- 1:14:46Speaker 11: the sort of end of May.
- 1:14:47Speaker 1: Starters June decent chance, I'll leave you alone and tell
- 1:14:50Speaker 1: a lot of June. All right, sounds good, Thanks Spots,
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: I appreciate you.
- 1:14:53Speaker 11: Have a great day.
- 1:14:53Speaker 1: All right, jas bontroll joining us Crack and GM. We'll
- 1:14:56Speaker 1: take a break, come back with more for the thirty
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- 1:15:23Speaker 1: Community ice boys today you infness with you cruising along.
- 1:15:27Speaker 1: The captain is here, Mike Benton, Bobby McMahon coming up.
- 1:15:30Speaker 1: In about fifteen minutes or so, we'll hear from the
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: free agent to b is he coming back to Seattle
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: is he thinking about coming back to Seattle? Is Seattle
- 1:15:39Speaker 1: even a consideration for him? We'll find that out. We
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: heard just now from Jason Bottrel and if you miss
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: the interview, we'll have a podcast. We'll probably throw some
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: stuff up on social media as well. Anderson Hurst had
- 1:15:50Speaker 1: a question I did fire away. Yeah, I want to
- 1:15:52Speaker 1: know because we got Mike Benton with you.
- 1:15:54Speaker 4: So the captain is here?
- 1:15:56Speaker 7: Can I have us here? The mayor's here, Andrews is here.
- 1:15:58Speaker 4: I don't have a name, so that's fine, Lord Duke
- 1:16:00Speaker 4: of Hurst. I like that, Lord Duke of Hurst. All right,
- 1:16:07Speaker 4: all right for both of you guys. What does this
- 1:16:09Speaker 4: successful off season look like for the Seattle Crack.
- 1:16:11Speaker 12: Mikey, I'll go first, extend Bobby McMahon. Find a top
- 1:16:18Speaker 12: line guy. Be prepared to say goodbye to some individuals who.
- 1:16:24Speaker 7: Have been here from the beginning. Change is coming, culture thing.
- 1:16:28Speaker 1: Okay, So so all right, so let me just read
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: this correctly, So McMahon get him back. Yes, add another
- 1:16:35Speaker 1: top six guy, Yes, top, top top three, top three,
- 1:16:39Speaker 1: top And if I'm reading this correctly, you're saying, move
- 1:16:46Speaker 1: some guys that have been here for a while to
- 1:16:48Speaker 1: change the climate and the culture of the lock.
- 1:16:51Speaker 12: Let's raid the tea leaves here. Todd light Wiki about
- 1:16:54Speaker 12: a week and a half ago, said most players have
- 1:16:56Speaker 12: been proud to put on this jersey from this dressing room.
- 1:17:00Speaker 12: Jason Bottral today said change is coming. Lane Lambert said
- 1:17:03Speaker 12: this room was way too quiet. I'd be seeing some
- 1:17:07Speaker 12: change there.
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: Yeah, okay for me successful offseason, I'll start with what
- 1:17:11Speaker 1: Mikey said. I think Bobby McMahon is a must. I
- 1:17:14Speaker 1: just do. I think they got it. You you made
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: a trade that looks eerily similar to Leonard Williams, Ernest Jones,
- 1:17:22Speaker 1: Rashid Shaheat. You gave up draft capital for short term.
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: I'm assuming with the assumption that you're gonna sign said
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: player long term, which is what the actually with all
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: three of those guys.
- 1:17:33Speaker 11: Yep.
- 1:17:34Speaker 1: And it wasn't and it wasn't easy. Like remember, I
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: mean they didn't think they're get rehid. I mean there's
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: a lot of talk about, oh, she he's not going
- 1:17:39Speaker 1: to come back, and you know, people were like people
- 1:17:41Speaker 1: were down on Leonard Williams.
- 1:17:43Speaker 7: And then back back up the breaks truck.
- 1:17:45Speaker 1: People were down on Leonard Williams on our station. People
- 1:17:47Speaker 1: were down on.
- 1:17:48Speaker 11: That first year.
- 1:17:49Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:17:49Speaker 1: I was like, ah, I want to give up too much?
- 1:17:50Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, I don't know.
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: Do you just watched the Super Bowl? Okay, so but
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: that's I think that's number one. McMahon fallows into that
- 1:17:56Speaker 1: same seahawk category of that.
- 1:17:58Speaker 2: Uh.
- 1:17:59Speaker 1: And I think number uber two has to be that
- 1:18:02Speaker 1: you make an impact edition. I don't necessarily say top
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: three or I think top six guy, but make an
- 1:18:08Speaker 1: impact addition, a guy that can finish, not from Finland,
- 1:18:14Speaker 1: but can finish. So we're kind of on the same
- 1:18:16Speaker 1: page because I think and I think you're going to
- 1:18:18Speaker 1: have to do that via trade. A successful off season
- 1:18:21Speaker 1: to me is using some of your draft capital. All
- 1:18:24Speaker 1: these draft picks you have, move them and get a player,
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: get a warm body that can help you right away. Today.
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: Here's the thing. They didn't miss the playoffs by much.
- 1:18:34Speaker 1: They just didn't. And I think the one thing you'll
- 1:18:36Speaker 1: see in the NHL playoffs that we have seen in
- 1:18:39Speaker 1: the NHL playoffs. Yes, are you a Stanley Cup contender?
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: Are you thought to be a Stanley Cup contender? Yes?
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: And no. Right, but the way Stanley Cup playoffs work,
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: we've seen this already. Upsets happen, hot goaltending can carry you.
- 1:18:57Speaker 1: The pressure of being that team can get to some teams,
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: right and I just get into the dance, And I
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: thought Bot said it, Well, if not, you want to
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: be a part of it, that's your goal. It's almost
- 1:19:08Speaker 1: like March madness, like just getting in is the first goal.
- 1:19:11Speaker 1: Once you're in, who knows what can happen. I think
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: it's also imperative that and I asked him this, Mikey,
- 1:19:19Speaker 1: I think it's imperative that you get those playoff games
- 1:19:22Speaker 1: in that atmosphere because you keep talking about the young guys.
- 1:19:27Speaker 1: Those guys haven't been a part of it. The Calder
- 1:19:29Speaker 1: Cup playoffs in the AHL are not close to that.
- 1:19:33Speaker 1: If you play high level college hockey Final four or
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: something like that Rosen four, that's close. That has pressure.
- 1:19:38Speaker 1: I would tell you the WHL playoffs, guys that have
- 1:19:40Speaker 1: played in those championship series, you've been a part of that.
- 1:19:43Speaker 1: You've seen that. Yeah, but it's not the NHL. So
- 1:19:46Speaker 1: I think it's important to get those guys there. My
- 1:19:48Speaker 1: frustration would be when they fall fall apart in the
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: second half or the last part of the season. They
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: had a bunch of guys, a core group of guys
- 1:19:56Speaker 1: that had been there and nobody handled it well.
- 1:19:59Speaker 12: See, and that's a as a culture thing because it's
- 1:20:01Speaker 12: not just how quiet was the room. But something that
- 1:20:05Speaker 12: stood out to me from Lane Lambert was we gave
- 1:20:08Speaker 12: the guy as a blueprint. We gave the guy as
- 1:20:11Speaker 12: a plan before in one of their break games in March,
- 1:20:13Speaker 12: and they just went up and did their own thing. Yep,
- 1:20:16Speaker 12: you're needing to find a change in culture with guys
- 1:20:19Speaker 12: who are going to be a line now with the
- 1:20:21Speaker 12: current coach. To me, Brandon Montour is a Lane Lambert guy.
- 1:20:24Speaker 12: Madd even hears it seems as if he is a
- 1:20:27Speaker 12: Laine Lambert guy. Is you've got to find more Lane
- 1:20:30Speaker 12: lambertin mc mahon's also one too.
- 1:20:32Speaker 1: Yeah. I like, I'll just say it right now. I
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: think that you need to say goodbye to Schwartz and
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: Alexiak period undrapted or unrestricted free agents. I think you
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: just have to. I think that's where it starts. What
- 1:20:43Speaker 1: did it say that twenty four was scratch last game
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: of the season and I don't buy seventeen was hurt.
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: So I think that I think that that's what you start.
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: I just that's how I mean that's just that's that's
- 1:20:54Speaker 1: how strong I feel. And do we answer the question, Yeah,
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: he did.
- 1:20:57Speaker 4: Absolutely, It's a lot of the same lines as mine.
- 1:20:59Speaker 4: I would say, Number one, if you are going to
- 1:21:03Speaker 4: go the route of you think you can compete next year,
- 1:21:04Speaker 4: Bobby McMahon's the way to go. Number two, I still
- 1:21:09Speaker 4: think the most important thing for this franchise is finding
- 1:21:11Speaker 4: a way to note not necessarily get one of those
- 1:21:15Speaker 4: top line guys, because I don't think they're that easy
- 1:21:17Speaker 4: to find. It's either a luck into the one of
- 1:21:20Speaker 4: the top four picks in the draft, or b find
- 1:21:23Speaker 4: a way to develop, whether it's Matt e Beneer's Berkeley
- 1:21:26Speaker 4: Catten into one of those guys, because that's the most
- 1:21:29Speaker 4: likely route forward that this team is going to take
- 1:21:31Speaker 4: that next step. As someone that's already.
- 1:21:33Speaker 12: Here, do I have time to lob one question out
- 1:21:35Speaker 12: here very quick? If there is a top line guy available,
- 1:21:39Speaker 12: a guy that can get you eighty ninety points, is
- 1:21:42Speaker 12: any prospect untouchable?
- 1:21:45Speaker 1: No?
- 1:21:46Speaker 4: No, no, no, I agree, yeah, no, I agree.
- 1:21:48Speaker 9: No.
- 1:21:49Speaker 1: We had this conversation as zillion times with the Mariners,
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: like it's listen, Jcobrien's really intriguing, really exciting, but he's
- 1:21:58Speaker 1: seventeen and he needs to put about forty pounds on.
- 1:22:00Speaker 12: This is how you use bring in the big trade pieces.
- 1:22:04Speaker 12: Now you've got to have something. Look at what we
- 1:22:07Speaker 12: got for Quinn.
- 1:22:08Speaker 1: Hughes and and O'Brien's would net you something? Yeah for
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: sure the year he had, Yeah, totally net you something.
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: So yes, I think the guy. If you're talking about
- 1:22:19Speaker 1: who's off limits, I think it's for I think Berkeley
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: is for anybody. Yeah, well, I mean anybody's big, but
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: it's a yeah. I think if we're just being let's
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: be realistic. Yeah, they're not gonna get them. Yeah, if
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: you're being realistic, Berkeley the coord probably Maddie, but not necessarily.
- 1:22:39Speaker 1: Uh not for me. I right, but I said I
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: said probably, but not. I don't think he's one hundred
- 1:22:44Speaker 1: percent right, Uh you know, I think, but I think
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: those are that that kind of ends right there. I
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: think you could listen if you want to have the
- 1:22:50Speaker 1: hard conversation, you can move Vince Dunn for a lot. Yeah,
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: you got replicated with sixty two. So all right, we
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: got to take break. Mikey. What you got coming up?
- 1:22:56Speaker 1: You got you've got podcasts coming crack.
- 1:22:58Speaker 7: In weekly two nights.
- 1:22:59Speaker 12: We are gonna have a lot to break down here
- 1:23:02Speaker 12: from the Jason bottlerel Press or else of got Jordan
- 1:23:04Speaker 12: Ebery one on one Compo Cocko one on one, by
- 1:23:06Speaker 12: the way, leading score for the cracking out of the
- 1:23:09Speaker 12: Olympic break.
- 1:23:10Speaker 7: Yeah, conversation.
- 1:23:11Speaker 1: They just need to find a way every year to
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: have a break So Coppo come back if it did
- 1:23:14Speaker 1: not have enough.
- 1:23:15Speaker 12: Time here to get this all within like one hour,
- 1:23:17Speaker 12: so have a length of your podcast version also up
- 1:23:19Speaker 12: once the show is all done after this evening.
- 1:23:20Speaker 1: All right, Bobby McMahon will join us. Coming up next.
- 1:23:25Speaker 6: Now from the Starrunnels Sports Desks Jordan ninety three point
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- 1:23:38Speaker 4: Uh.
- 1:23:38Speaker 1: Mariners lose yesterday again to the A's. They lose the
- 1:23:41Speaker 1: series of the A's. They'll head to Saint Louis later
- 1:23:44Speaker 1: this afternoon to start a series against Cardinals coming up
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: on Friday. Excuse me, we got for a club there
- 1:23:50Speaker 1: but again losing the last night five to two, ten
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: fifteen on the season. Spurs star Victor wembin Yama, who
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: was the unanimous defensive Player of the Year in the
- 1:24:01Speaker 1: National Basketball Association, sustain a concussion on a hard fall
- 1:24:05Speaker 1: during a second quarter of Tuesday night's game to playoff
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: loss to the Portland Trailblazers. Speaking of the Blazers, interim head
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: coach Diego Splitter says he's focusing on the team's first
- 1:24:13Speaker 1: playoff appearance in five years, as reports swirl about new
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: owner Tom Dunnan talking, I was like candidates to replace him.
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: That's fun. Uh, we have Premier League news in our
- 1:24:25Speaker 1: headlines today, Yes we do. Don't blame me.
- 1:24:27Speaker 4: It's a slow news day, it is, and.
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: I'm all good with that. Chelsea has sacked head coach.
- 1:24:32Speaker 1: Say his name, Liam Rossen. You are after less than
- 1:24:35Speaker 1: four months and charge five straight losses, zero goals, apparently
- 1:24:38Speaker 1: like the fire coaches at Chelsea. Right, Yeah, that's true.
- 1:24:41Speaker 4: That's their second coach fired in the last four months.
- 1:24:45Speaker 1: And today is the day before, not the day before,
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: the day before. Oh, today is just the day four.
- 1:24:54Speaker 1: We will we will touch it on that as we
- 1:24:56Speaker 1: start our number.
- 1:24:58Speaker 10: Three from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio
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- 1:25:10Speaker 6: On Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ R f.
- 1:25:14Speaker 1: M Yes, sir, yes, sir. Uh jeff'smin McIntyre. Do we
- 1:25:22Speaker 1: have a word for the hour so people can win
- 1:25:24Speaker 1: money or do?
- 1:25:26Speaker 3: Thanks, homie. This hour's word is win and.
- 1:25:30Speaker 2: Uh yeah, just you have to enter that at ninety
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: three three KJR dot com. Again it's the Grand Slam
- 1:25:36Speaker 2: cash contest shot at one thousand bucks win.
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: So who couldn't use a thousand American dollars?
- 1:25:44Speaker 4: A lot of them?
- 1:25:44Speaker 1: Who couldn't use a thousand American dollars?
- 1:25:46Speaker 4: As long as it's not Canadian dollars?
- 1:25:48Speaker 1: I'm good. What's the Canadian dollar worth these days? We
- 1:25:50Speaker 1: know that's a good point. The loon the looney, well
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: they you know what they have the coins, aren't they?
- 1:25:56Speaker 4: Yeah, the the loonies and the townies.
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: Hang on the second. Oh that said, but they got
- 1:26:01Speaker 1: rid of those like a dollars.
- 1:26:03Speaker 4: Hang on, hang on one seven that's what.
- 1:26:06Speaker 1: So it's sixty three cents? Correct? Yeah, sixty three cents
- 1:26:10Speaker 1: is the Canadian dollar right now?
- 1:26:14Speaker 3: Nice math on the fly there.
- 1:26:15Speaker 1: Well, listen, I'm known for my math. I really am.
- 1:26:19Speaker 1: Of all the things, I'm known for math at the topless.
- 1:26:22Speaker 1: Somebody who went to ODA with me right now is
- 1:26:23Speaker 1: laughing driving around going yeah, like my buddy bags or something.
- 1:26:27Speaker 4: Like really, yeah, no, no, I.
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: Did take I did take four years of math in
- 1:26:32Speaker 1: high school.
- 1:26:33Speaker 5: Though.
- 1:26:33Speaker 1: You know why I got it out of the way
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: for heist for college? Yeah, because I got that out
- 1:26:37Speaker 1: of the wave.
- 1:26:38Speaker 4: It was I took take calculus in high school.
- 1:26:40Speaker 1: Uh No, I didn't have to do that. I took
- 1:26:42Speaker 1: college algebra though, nice my senior year, which I'm not
- 1:26:46Speaker 1: sure why outside of the fact that I didn't have
- 1:26:48Speaker 1: to take it in college. But it was damn hard.
- 1:26:50Speaker 1: The late mister Fortune was our teacher. He used to
- 1:26:54Speaker 1: kick you out of class for farting. Oh what do
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: you got on that notes? Yeah, good story coming.
- 1:27:00Speaker 2: Yay.
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: It's better be good.
- 1:27:02Speaker 4: It's better be good, not super I mean, I think
- 1:27:04Speaker 4: this is breaking news worthy. The Alabama Crimson ti and
- 1:27:07Speaker 4: have extended head coach Kaitlin de Boor to a new seven.
- 1:27:10Speaker 1: Year, twelve and a half million dollar aa V deal. Okay,
- 1:27:14Speaker 1: how much twelve and a half million dollar? Like per
- 1:27:17Speaker 1: year twelve and a half million year, So what is
- 1:27:20Speaker 1: that time? Seven?
- 1:27:20Speaker 4: All right, matthean twelve and a half times seven.
- 1:27:22Speaker 5: Let's go.
- 1:27:24Speaker 1: That would be fifty sixty one sixty. I don't know
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: if someone so the calculator, I have no idea. What
- 1:27:31Speaker 1: is that? I don't know. Are you sure that's a
- 1:27:34Speaker 1: better story than me getting kicked out of for FARTI ga.
- 1:27:37Speaker 4: Yeah, continue that place.
- 1:27:38Speaker 3: I really wish we had more.
- 1:27:39Speaker 1: So mister Fortie would sit there forty eight he'd say,
- 1:27:43Speaker 1: I smell that smell? Who did that smell? And everyone
- 1:27:47Speaker 1: knew that, Like he was like adverse to anybody having
- 1:27:51Speaker 1: that come out of their back end. And now let's
- 1:27:54Speaker 1: remember a couple of things. All boys school. Uh yeah,
- 1:27:57Speaker 1: so you're not worried about such a thing because because
- 1:28:00Speaker 1: there's no girl, you know, you don't. I didn't care
- 1:28:02Speaker 1: about impressing Brett Vaalist next to me, right like whatever, dude? Uh?
- 1:28:06Speaker 1: And so like if you did it, if you had to,
- 1:28:08Speaker 1: you just let her rip. That was fine. He would
- 1:28:11Speaker 1: go sideways. This dude would go sideways. And by the way,
- 1:28:15Speaker 1: he looked like a math teacher except for one thing.
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: What y'll explain. He had so this dude had like
- 1:28:20Speaker 1: the glasses, like the black like the Eugene Levy kind
- 1:28:23Speaker 1: of black class black riom glasses. Yeah, the Chris Berman
- 1:28:28Speaker 1: short sleeve dress shirt from the Chris Berman collection. Polyester pants,
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: but the short sleeve dress shirt and the pocket protector.
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: He had. He had it all going on as far
- 1:28:38Speaker 1: as school there, what's that? What era are we talking
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: about here? This is this was the eighties. This was
- 1:28:45Speaker 1: the eighties. So but yeah, fortunately he would he would
- 1:28:49Speaker 1: now where he didn't look like the normal guy.
- 1:28:51Speaker 4: He's a former hockey player. Really, he had forearms that
- 1:28:54Speaker 4: looked like Popeye.
- 1:28:55Speaker 1: Wow, Like, so the dude, the dude looked like he
- 1:28:58Speaker 1: just looked at his face and how he'd like, this
- 1:29:00Speaker 1: is the biggest nerd I've ever seen. He is. This
- 1:29:02Speaker 1: is this is like if you're going to design, what
- 1:29:04Speaker 1: a math teacher looks like? This is what he looks like.
- 1:29:06Speaker 1: That'll kick your ass. But yeah, there's a potentially kick
- 1:29:09Speaker 1: your ass, yeah, because the dude played hockey back in
- 1:29:11Speaker 1: the day where that's what you did. Yeah. Yeah, he
- 1:29:14Speaker 1: was an interesting cat. I liked the guy in retrospect.
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: I remember seeing him after I graduated, and I wasn't
- 1:29:19Speaker 1: bothering Himore. But yeah, we would get you get kicked
- 1:29:21Speaker 1: out of class, which resulted in detension all the time
- 1:29:23Speaker 1: for for such things, for such acts coming out of
- 1:29:27Speaker 1: a human human body.
- 1:29:28Speaker 2: So was he quoting that song can't you smell that smell?
- 1:29:32Speaker 7: Uh?
- 1:29:34Speaker 3: Or that oh that smell?
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: Well, that was that's uh Leonard Skinner?
- 1:29:40Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's what I was wondering.
- 1:29:43Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been. It would have been Leonard
- 1:29:44Speaker 1: Skinner was yeah, no, he that God, I didn't think
- 1:29:47Speaker 1: about that.
- 1:29:48Speaker 3: As soon as you said it. I was like always
- 1:29:49Speaker 3: quoting that song. That smell is the name of the song.
- 1:29:52Speaker 1: That is a Leonard Skinner song, right, it is, yes,
- 1:29:55Speaker 1: And Leonard Skinner was popular in the.
- 1:29:56Speaker 3: Seventies seventy seven that song came out.
- 1:29:59Speaker 1: Okay, there there you go. That's I never thought of
- 1:30:01Speaker 1: it that way. And now see we've learned something today.
- 1:30:02Speaker 1: This is good. This is good. This is really a
- 1:30:05Speaker 1: good thing. On the day before the draft, we've learned something.
- 1:30:08Speaker 1: We have learned something here today which we're very excited about.
- 1:30:10Speaker 1: All right, listen, we're out here at Cracking Community, ice Plex,
- 1:30:13Speaker 1: thirty two, Bar and Grill on the eve of NFL Draft.
- 1:30:15Speaker 1: We will be all over that tomorrow. Will tell you
- 1:30:17Speaker 1: about that. Check the text four nine four to five
- 1:30:19Speaker 1: one at the bottom of the hour on the Tukmadage
- 1:30:21Speaker 1: text line. But earlier today I got a chance to
- 1:30:23Speaker 1: catch up with Bobby McMahon, pending free agent thirty gold
- 1:30:27Speaker 1: guy almost twenty nine for the Kraken after you get
- 1:30:30Speaker 1: traded over from the Toronto Maple Leafs, and we started
- 1:30:33Speaker 1: up by just saying, hey man, how you doing great?
- 1:30:35Speaker 7: Thanks for having me.
- 1:30:36Speaker 1: You'd rather be.
- 1:30:37Speaker 7: Playing, of course.
- 1:30:38Speaker 1: How frustrating is that? I know when you came here,
- 1:30:40Speaker 1: this team was kind of on the verge. One of
- 1:30:42Speaker 1: the reasons they traded for you is this team was
- 1:30:44Speaker 1: thinking about the postseason. You put up your numbers, you
- 1:30:46Speaker 1: did your job, but the team fell a little short.
- 1:30:48Speaker 1: What how frustrating is How would you describe that feeling
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: when you fall short of the postseason.
- 1:30:53Speaker 7: Yeah, it's hard.
- 1:30:55Speaker 13: It's something that I definitely wanted to come in make
- 1:30:58Speaker 13: an impact, be a part of this.
- 1:31:00Speaker 7: They had some good success. They're leading into the.
- 1:31:02Speaker 13: Break not paying a ton of attention to this team,
- 1:31:06Speaker 13: obviously being on the East Coast, so it was kind
- 1:31:09Speaker 13: of like a bit of a fresh start, kind of
- 1:31:11Speaker 13: just coming in, getting to check out a new place
- 1:31:14Speaker 13: and trying to bring some energy. So it's been it
- 1:31:17Speaker 13: was hard. It's been hard. I guess kind of know
- 1:31:20Speaker 13: when we're out of it for the last few games there.
- 1:31:23Speaker 13: But definitely an organization that I've been happy to be
- 1:31:26Speaker 13: a part of, and after kind of the dust settled
- 1:31:28Speaker 13: from the trade, was super excited to be here down
- 1:31:31Speaker 13: the stretch.
- 1:31:31Speaker 4: How hard is it to get traded in the middle
- 1:31:33Speaker 4: of the season.
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: Yeah, And I asked it because it's just I think
- 1:31:35Speaker 1: we all think sports fans media is like, uh, you know,
- 1:31:38Speaker 1: these guys make a lot of money, They're fine, They're
- 1:31:39Speaker 1: just up. How hard is it though, And what are
- 1:31:41Speaker 1: the challenges of moving, especially from a place like Toronto
- 1:31:44Speaker 1: to here, because that's a whole different world.
- 1:31:46Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's difficult.
- 1:31:48Speaker 13: I think it's exactly what you say, Like guys or
- 1:31:52Speaker 13: people think and fans think, you make a lot of money,
- 1:31:54Speaker 13: it's you'll be fine. It's kind of your job, and
- 1:31:57Speaker 13: it is your job, so you have to be ready
- 1:31:59Speaker 13: to go and be ready to play, but it's also
- 1:32:02Speaker 13: you're a human being. You kind of grow some roots
- 1:32:05Speaker 13: in a certain city. I was there for a while.
- 1:32:08Speaker 13: You get to know the streets, you get to know
- 1:32:11Speaker 13: the restaurants, you get to know all those things, or
- 1:32:12Speaker 13: you get to find your favorite spots all those things,
- 1:32:15Speaker 13: so just to be uprooted like that. Luckily I had
- 1:32:18Speaker 13: my girlfriend come with me. That was kind of part
- 1:32:21Speaker 13: of the comforting side of it, but also like tough
- 1:32:23Speaker 13: for her as well. Coming over here and changing time zones,
- 1:32:28Speaker 13: all of that is a big battle and part of
- 1:32:32Speaker 13: something that you just got to get over. And luckily,
- 1:32:35Speaker 13: once you get playing on the ice that's familiar for me,
- 1:32:38Speaker 13: and once I was able to get into.
- 1:32:39Speaker 7: Games, I was super nice.
- 1:32:41Speaker 13: But yeah, it's definitely difficult trying to figure out the
- 1:32:44Speaker 13: smallest things like how to get into the rink, what
- 1:32:45Speaker 13: door to go in. All those things that are minor
- 1:32:49Speaker 13: inconveniences add up to be a lot when you come
- 1:32:51Speaker 13: to a new organization and things that you take for
- 1:32:53Speaker 13: granted when you're at your place you've been at.
- 1:32:56Speaker 7: For five years or whatever it is.
- 1:32:59Speaker 13: All those things add up to take a lot of
- 1:33:00Speaker 13: energy from you, So it takes that much more focus
- 1:33:02Speaker 13: to kind of switch teams like that.
- 1:33:03Speaker 1: I think everybody can relate to that in whatever world
- 1:33:05Speaker 1: you live in, right Like you're working in a job
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: or in a city and you move and it's like
- 1:33:11Speaker 1: the unknown is kind of frustrating at times, but you
- 1:33:13Speaker 1: seem to acclimate yourself quite well. The chemistry you had,
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: especially with Maddie, it didn't take long. Why do you
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: think that is?
- 1:33:22Speaker 7: Uh? I think uh.
- 1:33:25Speaker 13: I think he's so dynamic in the way that he
- 1:33:27Speaker 13: plays east west, and I think he that's kind of
- 1:33:30Speaker 13: the strength of his game in the way that he's in.
- 1:33:32Speaker 1: You're north south guy's that's the thing covered all the geography, right,
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: And I think when you cover the whole map like that,
- 1:33:37Speaker 1: I think it works out well so and I think
- 1:33:39Speaker 1: we neither of us try to deviate from that.
- 1:33:41Speaker 13: Obviously, he's a super dynamic player. He can do almost
- 1:33:44Speaker 13: anything on the ice, so he plays north south as well,
- 1:33:46Speaker 13: but like he can, he can play that east west,
- 1:33:48Speaker 13: and I think that because I was more north south,
- 1:33:51Speaker 13: I kind of created more space. Try to get the
- 1:33:53Speaker 13: puck to him, let him carry it in zone entries
- 1:33:55Speaker 13: things like that, and then just try and find open ice.
- 1:33:58Speaker 13: And he knows I like to shoot the puk and
- 1:34:00Speaker 13: seems like he's a bit more of a past first guy.
- 1:34:02Speaker 13: He's got a great shot as well, but he was
- 1:34:04Speaker 13: definitely looking for me, which I appreciate.
- 1:34:05Speaker 1: Every fan listening right now, Bobby McMahon is like, Okay,
- 1:34:07Speaker 1: that's great. What does he think of this place? So,
- 1:34:09Speaker 1: I mean, you've got you put yourself in a great position.
- 1:34:11Speaker 1: Twenty nine goals, You're right there. You have a chance
- 1:34:13Speaker 1: to make life changing money first time is a like
- 1:34:16Speaker 1: real big time free agent, a lot of market for you.
- 1:34:19Speaker 1: First of all, congratulations, that's gotta be nice. Like you know,
- 1:34:21Speaker 1: you've you work your whole life to get to this point, right,
- 1:34:24Speaker 1: to get to this point of having those opportunities as
- 1:34:27Speaker 1: a free agent, So how do you approach it?
- 1:34:30Speaker 13: Yeah, it's weird because I've always been my whole life
- 1:34:34Speaker 13: on that side of working towards something, and now that
- 1:34:38Speaker 13: the season's over, it's kind of like you transition to
- 1:34:43Speaker 13: maybe looking at the contract side of it, and it's
- 1:34:46Speaker 13: a weird thing that I haven't really had a chance
- 1:34:48Speaker 13: to do yet. But this is definitely an organization that
- 1:34:52Speaker 13: has treated me well, coming in, super super warm, welcome,
- 1:34:56Speaker 13: enjoyed the time with the guys, as the coaches, the
- 1:34:59Speaker 13: management have all been super nice. So it's something that
- 1:35:03Speaker 13: I'm gonna have to look at really seriously. Obviously it's
- 1:35:07Speaker 13: a point in my career where I want to make.
- 1:35:10Speaker 13: It's gonna be some big decisions. Obviously I want to
- 1:35:12Speaker 13: make the right one. So it's a city that I've
- 1:35:16Speaker 13: got to know a little bit, didn't know what time
- 1:35:18Speaker 13: coming in. Enjoyed my time here, and I feel like
- 1:35:21Speaker 13: it's it's definitely spot that I could see myself ending
- 1:35:23Speaker 13: up at.
- 1:35:24Speaker 1: Where does Lane fit into that Lane Lambert.
- 1:35:26Speaker 13: Yeah, he's a big part. He's a big part in
- 1:35:28Speaker 13: me coming here and feeling comfortable. I think because having
- 1:35:32Speaker 13: him for a year in Toronto as an assistant, I
- 1:35:35Speaker 13: got to know him, so we kind of skipped the
- 1:35:37Speaker 13: get to know each other part and just jump right
- 1:35:38Speaker 13: into the hockey. And then he also was super confident
- 1:35:42Speaker 13: in my abilities and super excited to have me here,
- 1:35:44Speaker 13: and I think that that helped kind of solidify my
- 1:35:49Speaker 13: game and kind of the confidence of my game to
- 1:35:51Speaker 13: try and play to my strength and play to an
- 1:35:54Speaker 13: ability that could contribute to this team. And he was
- 1:35:58Speaker 13: really forward with that and understand, I mean that we're
- 1:36:00Speaker 13: just gonna get right down to it and try and
- 1:36:02Speaker 13: put you to work here. And that was helpful and
- 1:36:04Speaker 13: get me acclimated.
- 1:36:05Speaker 1: You when you come here and you're and he puts
- 1:36:10Speaker 1: you on the top line. Not always PP one, but
- 1:36:12Speaker 1: you were on the top line. And I mean that's
- 1:36:15Speaker 1: in this situation, and maybe I guess the question would
- 1:36:17Speaker 1: be how much do things like that way into what
- 1:36:20Speaker 1: you want to do or what you will do, because
- 1:36:22Speaker 1: you know, in Seattle you're a top three guy, You're
- 1:36:25Speaker 1: gonna get top line minutes, You're gonna get opportunities with
- 1:36:28Speaker 1: Mattie or whoever like that. The hockey part of it.
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: They're not a playoff team this year. Hopefully next year
- 1:36:34Speaker 1: gets back to that and there's a contender like what
- 1:36:36Speaker 1: goes into the hockey side of things because from a
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: hockey standpoint, these guys are gonna give you opportunities and
- 1:36:42Speaker 1: not every team would give you.
- 1:36:44Speaker 13: Yeah, I think that's a factor in it. I think
- 1:36:46Speaker 13: the biggest factor is obviously winning. I think that's that's
- 1:36:50Speaker 13: the biggest thing. And then some of the best feelings
- 1:36:52Speaker 13: you get in hockey is when you contribute and you're winning.
- 1:36:54Speaker 13: So if I'm in a role where I can contribute
- 1:36:57Speaker 13: every night and have that opportunity, I think that that's
- 1:36:59Speaker 13: a massive factor as well. Because I love playing this game,
- 1:37:03Speaker 13: and I love being a piece of a puzzle that
- 1:37:07Speaker 13: has success and a piece of a puzzle that gets
- 1:37:08Speaker 13: completed and reaches an ultimate goal at the end of
- 1:37:10Speaker 13: the season. So I'd love to be a part of
- 1:37:13Speaker 13: that and be a big piece of that for sure.
- 1:37:15Speaker 1: Is this team on the right path in your mind?
- 1:37:18Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 1:37:18Speaker 13: I think there's a lot of details and small habits
- 1:37:22Speaker 13: that are being instilled here that can pay dividends in
- 1:37:25Speaker 13: the long run, and not just in one year, but
- 1:37:27Speaker 13: in several years.
- 1:37:28Speaker 1: Is that a lame thing?
- 1:37:29Speaker 3: Like?
- 1:37:29Speaker 13: I think Laane's been trying to establish at like a
- 1:37:31Speaker 13: lot of teaching, a lot of understanding that this is
- 1:37:34Speaker 13: a younger group, that there is a lot to be learned,
- 1:37:37Speaker 13: even for veteran guys. I think guys that see the
- 1:37:39Speaker 13: game maybe like not many other players in the league,
- 1:37:42Speaker 13: like Abs, like he sees the game so well.
- 1:37:43Speaker 7: I think they're still learning and growing.
- 1:37:44Speaker 13: And he's still such a competitor that he still wants
- 1:37:47Speaker 13: to be so much better. And I think that that
- 1:37:49Speaker 13: carries all the way down in the group from Lane
- 1:37:50Speaker 13: and Ebbs and then all the way down that everybody
- 1:37:52Speaker 13: wants to grow and learn those details and be better
- 1:37:55Speaker 13: with their habits, and all those things pay off come
- 1:37:57Speaker 13: the end of the season and several seasons.
- 1:37:59Speaker 1: Forward, Bbby McMahon for a couple more moments with us,
- 1:38:03Speaker 1: all those things kind of come into play. The city
- 1:38:05Speaker 1: you mentioned, And I talked to Brennam on tour and
- 1:38:08Speaker 1: and just asked him about this, because he obviously came
- 1:38:10Speaker 1: here with Chandler and they signed some pretty healthy contracts,
- 1:38:13Speaker 1: and they came here and didn't know a lot.
- 1:38:16Speaker 7: About the city Seattle.
- 1:38:18Speaker 1: The city of Seattle, the fan base has had a
- 1:38:20Speaker 1: chance to recruit you for the last you know, a
- 1:38:21Speaker 1: couple of months, which is good, but again, you didn't
- 1:38:24Speaker 1: know much about it. What about this city is enticing?
- 1:38:27Speaker 1: And can this franchise and more specifically, because the facilities
- 1:38:31Speaker 1: are great, can this city attract NHL free agents and
- 1:38:35Speaker 1: top players?
- 1:38:36Speaker 13: Yeah, I think it's hard to get your name out
- 1:38:39Speaker 13: there as a new organization.
- 1:38:41Speaker 7: Vegas had some success.
- 1:38:43Speaker 13: Luckily right off the bat, so that kind of draws
- 1:38:45Speaker 13: guys in and Seattle's Vegas seeing that it's a winning team.
- 1:38:47Speaker 7: It also helps us Vegas. But I think yeah, with
- 1:38:49Speaker 7: the with.
- 1:38:51Speaker 13: The word and the buzz that the city gets, with
- 1:38:54Speaker 13: how pretty it is, I didn't know that there's mountains
- 1:38:57Speaker 13: coming in. I really didn't know how visually only the
- 1:39:00Speaker 13: city was coming in with the water in the mountains
- 1:39:02Speaker 13: and everything. I think that's a draw for guys. But
- 1:39:04Speaker 13: also seeing how invested the fan base is here, how
- 1:39:08Speaker 13: loud they are games, how much they care and want
- 1:39:12Speaker 13: to see us win, I think that's a huge factor
- 1:39:14Speaker 13: in getting guys here and getting guys to stick around
- 1:39:17Speaker 13: for longer deals. And then I also think this organization
- 1:39:20Speaker 13: is gaining a bit of a reputation for treating guys well,
- 1:39:23Speaker 13: and I think that that's another way that you can
- 1:39:26Speaker 13: pull guys in. And ownership and management has been trying
- 1:39:29Speaker 13: to do a good job since I've been here, and
- 1:39:31Speaker 13: I've noticed that and making sure that guys are treated well,
- 1:39:34Speaker 13: making sure they're taken care of, making sure families are
- 1:39:36Speaker 13: taken care of, and that all goes a long way.
- 1:39:38Speaker 11: And recruiting, Yeah, how is the locker room?
- 1:39:40Speaker 1: How many guys are recruiting you right now? Because that's
- 1:39:42Speaker 1: how it works as well. I know MANI and other
- 1:39:44Speaker 1: guys are like, what's the Listen. Everyone understands, because in
- 1:39:48Speaker 1: every business you want to separate business from that. But
- 1:39:50Speaker 1: the reality is these guys want to win. They know
- 1:39:52Speaker 1: you help them win. So do you have that like guys, Okay, Bobby,
- 1:39:55Speaker 1: come on now, let's go.
- 1:39:57Speaker 7: How does that work?
- 1:39:58Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, definitely, they've been They've been giving me a
- 1:40:01Speaker 13: nudge here and there, trying to give me a stay.
- 1:40:04Speaker 13: Looks like I'm getting out on the course of with
- 1:40:06Speaker 13: some guys. I'm sure they'll be playing some negotiations there.
- 1:40:10Speaker 13: We're going on a bit of a trip. Nice good
- 1:40:12Speaker 13: with some guys Northern Washington. I think, what do you
- 1:40:15Speaker 13: play out right now?
- 1:40:16Speaker 11: I don't know.
- 1:40:17Speaker 7: I don't play enough. It's been the hockey season.
- 1:40:19Speaker 13: But screamed sambag or screaming sandbag, I usually say at ten,
- 1:40:23Speaker 13: that's usually what I'm going with.
- 1:40:24Speaker 1: All right, that's see, that's that's there's people are gonna
- 1:40:27Speaker 1: be wanting strokes, right, That's how it's gonna be. You're
- 1:40:30Speaker 1: gonna try to grobble some strokes for somebody. Who's a stick?
- 1:40:32Speaker 1: Do you think out there?
- 1:40:34Speaker 13: I think flour is a stick. He was trying to
- 1:40:36Speaker 13: tell me he is a three point four. So anytime
- 1:40:37Speaker 13: you're getting into the point, so.
- 1:40:39Speaker 1: Your single digit and you're throwing a point in. Yeah,
- 1:40:42Speaker 1: because I know what I am. I'm a point, but
- 1:40:44Speaker 1: it ain't single digits.
- 1:40:45Speaker 7: Yeah, that's right.
- 1:40:48Speaker 5: Oh, I like it.
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: Some cheese and some strokes along the way. Well, finally,
- 1:40:52Speaker 1: it's been great to see you here. Do you expect
- 1:40:53Speaker 1: to make a decision at all before free agency? You
- 1:40:56Speaker 1: didn't try to hit the market.
- 1:40:58Speaker 13: I mean, I don't really have an answer for that.
- 1:41:00Speaker 13: It's it all depends on kind of where we can
- 1:41:04Speaker 13: get here. Hopefully we could get something done that would
- 1:41:07Speaker 13: be great. Yeah, definitely nice to be somewhere that I'm
- 1:41:10Speaker 13: familiar with. But yeah, I'm not really taking any negotiations
- 1:41:15Speaker 13: right now. I think we'll kind of wait a little
- 1:41:17Speaker 13: bit and get into it later.
- 1:41:18Speaker 1: Go play some golf, get some strokes, especially from Fleury.
- 1:41:21Speaker 4: Get some strokes exactly.
- 1:41:23Speaker 1: Yeah, don't let them cheese you out of those things,
- 1:41:24Speaker 1: and and enjoy your time. Great watching you play here
- 1:41:26Speaker 1: this year. I know fans enjoyed really watching you play
- 1:41:28Speaker 1: as well. Hopefully you found a home here, but if not,
- 1:41:31Speaker 1: congratulations on a hell of the season and whatever happens next,
- 1:41:34Speaker 1: best to luck to you.
- 1:41:35Speaker 7: Thank you so much.
- 1:41:35Speaker 1: That is Bobby mcmanneill, take a break, come back more.
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- 1:42:00Speaker 1: All right, uh, that is the Tacoma Dodge textan. By
- 1:42:05Speaker 1: the way of this reminder, if you're out and about
- 1:42:06Speaker 1: heading around you want to do something this afternoon, It's
- 1:42:08Speaker 1: kind of fun.
- 1:42:08Speaker 4: Have a couple of pops, have some good food. Uh
- 1:42:11Speaker 4: Dino's Pub.
- 1:42:12Speaker 1: In Rent told, told they got the uh Millan mall
- 1:42:15Speaker 1: or mall or Millan mock draft coming up at three
- 1:42:17Speaker 1: o'clock today.
- 1:42:18Speaker 3: All right, Oh, it's a fabulous time.
- 1:42:22Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, I'm looking to text you guys. Anything
- 1:42:25Speaker 1: jump out at you before I start. Anybody, anybody, anybody
- 1:42:30Speaker 1: verification code?
- 1:42:31Speaker 4: So hold on?
- 1:42:32Speaker 1: Got I know?
- 1:42:34Speaker 2: Uh, well, here there are some that are slightly critical
- 1:42:38Speaker 2: after listening to the Gtailla interview far away here we
- 1:42:42Speaker 2: go building. It's been five years and I see zero improvement.
- 1:42:49Speaker 4: Records speak for themselves.
- 1:42:53Speaker 1: They're better. Oh I don't want to put this. I
- 1:42:58Speaker 1: mean here, you one in year two, you had nobody
- 1:43:01Speaker 1: in your system because you were two drafts in and
- 1:43:03Speaker 1: kids were still eighteen nineteen. You've got more depth in
- 1:43:07Speaker 1: your system, you're a better I mean, the first year
- 1:43:10Speaker 1: that team wasn't very good. Second year they I still
- 1:43:15Speaker 1: can't really sit outside. They had this crazy high shooting percentage,
- 1:43:18Speaker 1: which is a stat we don't always use in hockey.
- 1:43:21Speaker 1: That was kind of lightning in a bottle, and then
- 1:43:23Speaker 1: they regressed. They're a better hockey team today this year,
- 1:43:27Speaker 1: and they're better rostered this year than they were the
- 1:43:30Speaker 1: last two years. Do you think that we got and
- 1:43:31Speaker 1: they're better coached and they're better coach.
- 1:43:34Speaker 3: We got spoiled right with their playoff push.
- 1:43:37Speaker 1: I think there's other expectations that are Vegas doesn't help.
- 1:43:42Speaker 4: And that in that that playoff in twenty three. That
- 1:43:45Speaker 4: is what I want to It's gonna weird be saying this.
- 1:43:48Speaker 4: That's what I want to avoid, is where you just
- 1:43:50Speaker 4: have a one off like, oh, this is where we
- 1:43:53Speaker 4: are now.
- 1:43:53Speaker 1: I want to because because there's a president for that.
- 1:43:55Speaker 1: It's three hours north. Vancouver had that a few years ago,
- 1:43:57Speaker 1: right exactly. It's a great comparison and they came away.
- 1:44:02Speaker 4: The other part you're gonna hear and this is where I.
- 1:44:03Speaker 1: Think fans sometimes get confused, and it just weird talking
- 1:44:06Speaker 1: about talking about it here today. Like Utah is non
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: expansion team, but everyone every time you watch a Utab
- 1:44:13Speaker 1: Mammoth playoff game right now, they're being portrayed as an
- 1:44:15Speaker 1: expansion team. Right. All their great draft picks came courtesy
- 1:44:18Speaker 1: of wait for it, tanking years in Arizona. So it's
- 1:44:23Speaker 1: it's yes, that's that's you gotta kind of you know,
- 1:44:27Speaker 1: Dylan Gunther's one of their best players. He was, He
- 1:44:29Speaker 1: was Maddie van Ear's draft.
- 1:44:31Speaker 4: He was drafted.
- 1:44:32Speaker 1: Eleventh, ninth, ninth, Yeah, yeah, by the Arizona Coyotes, not
- 1:44:37Speaker 1: the Utah Mammoth. The Utah Mammoth. I'm telling you right now. God,
- 1:44:41Speaker 1: I was just torn last night.
- 1:44:42Speaker 7: Yeah, I was like all over the place.
- 1:44:45Speaker 1: I know, you just feel to me. They feel to
- 1:44:49Speaker 1: me too much. Do the Utah Mammoth like the Oklahoma
- 1:44:52Speaker 1: City Thunder just drive me nuts?
- 1:44:54Speaker 4: I bet if you were in Arizona you would feel
- 1:44:56Speaker 4: that way for me, because it does.
- 1:44:58Speaker 1: All kind of I kind of feel that way not
- 1:45:00Speaker 1: being in Arizona, because I went through the sonic stuff
- 1:45:02Speaker 1: and I it's I'm looking at Cooley Gunther and these
- 1:45:05Speaker 1: guys going oh, that feels a lot like Durant and
- 1:45:08Speaker 1: Westbrook and you know Sergebaka, Sergebaka and Jeff Green and
- 1:45:12Speaker 1: all the way we go. Right, Yeah, I mean, I
- 1:45:17Speaker 1: do you realize west Russell Westbrook, Russell Westbrook and Sirgebaca
- 1:45:20Speaker 1: the last two first round picks by the Seattle super Sonics.
- 1:45:24Speaker 1: That is correct. We had a draft. We did a
- 1:45:26Speaker 1: draft press conference and shows at the Frankfurt Toddle Center,
- 1:45:32Speaker 1: which is now longer with us. It's now the Bill
- 1:45:35Speaker 1: Gates Foundation. Is that that's that location, and we were
- 1:45:39Speaker 1: there and those guys got drafted that day. I remember
- 1:45:42Speaker 1: arguing with Percy Allen from the Times, I don't think
- 1:45:44Speaker 1: I don't think Westbrook's any good. Oh boy, you said
- 1:45:48Speaker 1: you said that? Or okay Oka's good? Argument we had Yeah,
- 1:45:52Speaker 1: I was right, he was wrong. But and listen, I
- 1:45:56Speaker 1: can't say that all that often. But the point is
- 1:45:59Speaker 1: is that we had debate, and we would have been
- 1:46:00Speaker 1: fun to actually talk.
- 1:46:01Speaker 2: What.
- 1:46:01Speaker 1: No, they never played in Seattle because a week later,
- 1:46:04Speaker 1: not even a week later, the team was gone. Anyway,
- 1:46:07Speaker 1: continue what else we got?
- 1:46:08Speaker 2: All right, Well, some corrections on our Canadian dollar. It's
- 1:46:12Speaker 2: seventy three cents.
- 1:46:14Speaker 4: Actually it's thirty seven, Well it should be sixty three?
- 1:46:18Speaker 1: Is not wrong? Am I wrong?
- 1:46:20Speaker 3: I said it was a dollar? Yeah, no, I thought
- 1:46:22Speaker 3: you were correct?
- 1:46:23Speaker 1: Wow yeah soon mouth and it was actually really bad mouth?
- 1:46:27Speaker 1: Is what you're telling me?
- 1:46:28Speaker 3: Well, I think I didn't. I googled the conversion rate
- 1:46:31Speaker 3: and not actually, uh that.
- 1:46:34Speaker 1: Was point seventy three US. Yeah, I just checked. Yeah,
- 1:46:38Speaker 1: Tom Condon Dundon, I didn't.
- 1:46:40Speaker 4: I wait, content, Tom Condon?
- 1:46:43Speaker 1: Did I call him Dundon? What I call him?
- 1:46:44Speaker 4: His name is Tom Dundon.
- 1:46:46Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about Dundon.
- 1:46:47Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I thought.
- 1:46:48Speaker 4: Yeah, that's his name. I responded to that texter that
- 1:46:51Speaker 4: is literally his name.
- 1:46:52Speaker 1: Yeah, what the hell?
- 1:46:53Speaker 3: Yeah, Tom, I.
- 1:46:55Speaker 1: Just confused me. Did I get that wrong?
- 1:46:59Speaker 4: Oh? Ian, we got a text eight four three?
- 1:47:02Speaker 1: Okay?
- 1:47:03Speaker 4: See lives rent free on kJ R. I wonder where
- 1:47:05Speaker 4: that ARIA code's from? Block him?
- 1:47:11Speaker 14: What?
- 1:47:12Speaker 4: Oh South Carolina? Actually interesting?
- 1:47:14Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 1:47:15Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, Tom Condon was a former football players, like
- 1:47:18Speaker 2: an offensive lineman and yeah for a long time.
- 1:47:20Speaker 1: No, don't don't listen. Don't try to correct me. When
- 1:47:24Speaker 1: you're the one that he's corrected. I'll make listen. I
- 1:47:27Speaker 1: will make enough mistakes on my own. I don't need help.
- 1:47:30Speaker 9: Don't try to.
- 1:47:31Speaker 1: Confuse me, all right, don't try to confuse me. The
- 1:47:35Speaker 1: thirty two bar and grill uh building, and I see
- 1:47:39Speaker 1: zero improvement? Was he talking about the crack of the building?
- 1:47:42Speaker 1: KJR building? Although do we have power back?
- 1:47:44Speaker 4: We do?
- 1:47:44Speaker 3: We do, we do.
- 1:47:47Speaker 2: Although the sales team rightfully so bounced as soon as
- 1:47:52Speaker 2: their laptops were going to die.
- 1:47:54Speaker 3: They couldn't plug them in anywhere.
- 1:47:56Speaker 4: I have to leave before you get the power back. Also,
- 1:47:58Speaker 4: you can't have an excuse to leave.
- 1:48:00Speaker 1: Yeah, John Percival, nice thing. We don't have to recap
- 1:48:04Speaker 1: the interview. He got that way out in front of
- 1:48:06Speaker 1: that I did. That was last Friday. I did, thank you,
- 1:48:07Speaker 1: well done, well done.
- 1:48:08Speaker 4: Yeah, Tom Sa Speaking of pushing on bruises, did you
- 1:48:12Speaker 4: see how the m E. T A's Mets Mets Mets
- 1:48:14Speaker 4: lost their twelve straight game.
- 1:48:16Speaker 1: I just saw they lost their twelve straight I don't know.
- 1:48:20Speaker 3: Well, here we go the same person.
- 1:48:21Speaker 2: How do Mets manage to snatch defeat from the jaws
- 1:48:24Speaker 2: of victory?
- 1:48:25Speaker 3: What's their mantra? Refused to win? Or maybe two outs?
- 1:48:28Speaker 3: Give up?
- 1:48:30Speaker 1: Yes? All those things?
- 1:48:32Speaker 3: Yeah, Ken confirmed.
- 1:48:34Speaker 1: Two five three after hearing that interview, watching him play
- 1:48:36Speaker 1: Bobby McMahon is a must have. Yeah, he's a fun
- 1:48:38Speaker 1: guy to talk to you. Definitely very honest. Like I said,
- 1:48:41Speaker 1: hopefully cal Fury gives him some strokes and he's happy
- 1:48:43Speaker 1: about Seattle and comes back. So come on, good honestly,
- 1:48:47Speaker 1: team here, come on if you're just looking a pretty
- 1:48:49Speaker 1: good sign that he's been here for what a month
- 1:48:51Speaker 1: and a half, yep, and he's on a golf trip
- 1:48:53Speaker 1: with a bunch of guys from the cracket. Yeah.
- 1:48:55Speaker 4: But by the way, definitely did not pre record that
- 1:48:57Speaker 4: interview last week and thought we played it live, but
- 1:49:00Speaker 4: we didn't.
- 1:49:01Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, definitely didn't record it on Friday and recap
- 1:49:04Speaker 1: it on Friday when I forgot that we played it that.
- 1:49:06Speaker 4: We Sorry, I just had to get I had to
- 1:49:09Speaker 4: give that one. I just.
- 1:49:13Speaker 1: God, that was that was like that was like an
- 1:49:15Speaker 1: all time old man moment when I started doing that
- 1:49:17Speaker 1: with Andrews. What do you think about it?
- 1:49:19Speaker 3: You had just talked to him like it makes sense
- 1:49:22Speaker 3: from some of.
- 1:49:23Speaker 1: Them sometimes sometimes it does. Just so you know, the
- 1:49:26Speaker 1: murders suck. Okay, are we sure?
- 1:49:30Speaker 9: We sure?
- 1:49:30Speaker 1: Are we sure?
- 1:49:32Speaker 3: Mode yet?
- 1:49:38Speaker 1: Speaking of your school days. I wish you would have
- 1:49:39Speaker 1: beat up Bobby a couple of times. He'd be better
- 1:49:41Speaker 1: for it. Uh, Bobby Ferguson, I only went to school
- 1:49:44Speaker 1: with Ferguson twice. I wasn't the beat up kind of guy.
- 1:49:46Speaker 4: No, No, I was a nice guy. I'm a very
- 1:49:49Speaker 4: nice guy.
- 1:49:52Speaker 1: Listen, I tell you this. I I listen Bobby Ferguson
- 1:49:56Speaker 1: being in power. He had four years at Blanchet. I
- 1:49:58Speaker 1: blame all those people Blanchet.
- 1:50:00Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, I see how it is.
- 1:50:02Speaker 1: And again we just point out he's a Blanchet guy.
- 1:50:05Speaker 1: So you want to compet it on the state. This
- 1:50:07Speaker 1: is a Blanchet all right. This is not an O
- 1:50:09Speaker 1: Day issue. This is not a cap issue. This is
- 1:50:12Speaker 1: one hundred percent not a st AND's issues, undred percent
- 1:50:15Speaker 1: a Blanchet issue. Yes, student Bonnie president Blanchet, you know,
- 1:50:20Speaker 1: student body president? You do, Bobby Ferguson, I wonder if
- 1:50:23Speaker 1: he tried to implement like a school sales tax.
- 1:50:26Speaker 4: See that's why I think it's more of a you
- 1:50:28Speaker 4: dub issue than a Blanchet.
- 1:50:29Speaker 1: You think so I like that. I like agree on that.
- 1:50:32Speaker 1: I'm gonna see how to you guy, I can. Yeah,
- 1:50:34Speaker 1: I'll agree upon that. You know what, Robert Ferguson is
- 1:50:38Speaker 1: Udub's fault problem. Yeah, you guys do you guys deserve
- 1:50:41Speaker 1: all the blame for that? Gosh? Oh lord, all right?
- 1:50:46Speaker 1: Anything else here? Do we have a Keith Keith Miller today?
- 1:50:49Speaker 5: Oh?
- 1:50:49Speaker 1: No, we have a couple.
- 1:50:50Speaker 3: Yeah, there's always a Keith Miller.
- 1:50:52Speaker 1: Keith Miller will find me a Keith.
- 1:50:54Speaker 4: I'll do one of them, justing to the other one
- 1:50:56Speaker 4: two five three, Keith. If the masses think Arizona wants
- 1:50:59Speaker 4: to hop the Jets to get a QB, why not
- 1:51:02Speaker 4: squeeze the Jets from more draft capital. Those os for
- 1:51:07Speaker 4: the Jamal Adams deal.
- 1:51:08Speaker 1: They do always for Jamal they really do, they do?
- 1:51:12Speaker 1: They true? That is true?
- 1:51:14Speaker 4: Uh?
- 1:51:15Speaker 2: Keith also also wondering did you ever get a penance
- 1:51:19Speaker 2: for the sinners yesterday? I think he should have to
- 1:51:21Speaker 2: listen to a Nicaraguan pickleball podcast. Paul and Andrews gets
- 1:51:28Speaker 2: oiler fan Kate as his phone screensaver for a month
- 1:51:32Speaker 2: and for their transgression.
- 1:51:34Speaker 1: Kate the one that got naked, Yes, that took her
- 1:51:36Speaker 1: shirt off. Yes, yes, it's not a bad punishment, was it?
- 1:51:42Speaker 2: Nicaraguan pickleball podcast? I think he's making fun of basketball
- 1:51:45Speaker 2: in the Philippines.
- 1:51:46Speaker 1: Well, here's a funny thing. I know a guy that
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: I'm going to see in about an hour and a half.
- 1:51:52Speaker 1: I played golf with that. He wagers on table tennis
- 1:51:56Speaker 1: out of Pakistan.
- 1:51:57Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, Yes.
- 1:51:58Speaker 4: You can do that. You can have should do that.
- 1:52:00Speaker 1: That is, can you make a podcast about it? He's
- 1:52:04Speaker 1: not well spoken, but and I just think that's I
- 1:52:09Speaker 1: try to point out to my I said, listen, I
- 1:52:11Speaker 1: know there's nothing to bet on that day when you're
- 1:52:13Speaker 1: going to the casino, but I think you got a problem,
- 1:52:18Speaker 1: if you got a massive problem, to be honest with you, fella.
- 1:52:20Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna head over to Dinos in a
- 1:52:23Speaker 1: second check in with the the pregame show for the
- 1:52:25Speaker 1: Mallar Millan Millon Maller Mock Draft. Next, ladies and gentlemen,
- 1:52:36Speaker 1: this is the first time you're gonna hear from Dino's
- 1:52:39Speaker 1: Pub for the twenty eighth annual Mauler Millon Millon Maller
- 1:52:47Speaker 1: Mock Draft. I think he may not be on Mike
- 1:52:49Speaker 1: just yet. Oh my god. That's great.
- 1:52:50Speaker 4: He asked me how much time I was left in
- 1:52:52Speaker 4: the break About a minute a half go, I said
- 1:52:53Speaker 4: about a minute and half.
- 1:52:54Speaker 1: He's a productshit all for not.
- 1:52:56Speaker 3: I mean he'd be socializing at Dino's.
- 1:52:58Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'll probably getting himself on Tito's and SODA's
- 1:53:02Speaker 1: what he's doing.
- 1:53:04Speaker 4: Oh, he wouldn't do that.
- 1:53:05Speaker 1: There's no chance a true professional like that guy. Yeah, right,
- 1:53:08Speaker 1: there's no chance he'd be doing that. So the the
- 1:53:12Speaker 1: the draft mock draft coming up in just a couple
- 1:53:14Speaker 1: of minutes at three o'clock day, twenty eighth time that
- 1:53:17Speaker 1: they've done. This is what I heard. I guess there
- 1:53:19Speaker 1: was a there's a there's always a controversy of his
- 1:53:22Speaker 1: Is it twenty seven is a twenty eight? I remember
- 1:53:23Speaker 1: having this conversation last year. Yeah, is it twenty six?
- 1:53:26Speaker 1: Is it twenty seven? Is twenty eight years? And are you?
- 1:53:29Speaker 4: I am twenty eight years old? Wow, nineteen ninety seven.
- 1:53:34Speaker 3: Maybe his birth was the inspiration.
- 1:53:37Speaker 1: Think about that? Anderson, what do we call it? Would
- 1:53:40Speaker 1: you call him earlier? Jess?
- 1:53:43Speaker 11: Uh?
- 1:53:43Speaker 4: The first bell it was Ben What do they call you,
- 1:53:47Speaker 4: the Duke of Hurst or something like that?
- 1:53:48Speaker 1: Duke of Hurst? Yes, I like that.
- 1:53:52Speaker 3: I like that, Sir Andrew duer Hurst or something.
- 1:53:54Speaker 1: You were born the first year. What's your when's your birthday?
- 1:53:57Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety seven?
- 1:53:58Speaker 1: No, I know what's what's the birth third? June?
- 1:54:00Speaker 11: Third?
- 1:54:00Speaker 1: Okay, so you had not even been born yet when
- 1:54:04Speaker 1: they had this for the first time at Ozzie's. I
- 1:54:06Speaker 1: think he said it was Ozzie's the first time they
- 1:54:07Speaker 1: had that SOFTI there, I'm here. So did you hear
- 1:54:11Speaker 1: that the first I didn't hear any of it?
- 1:54:13Speaker 9: Okay, so are you?
- 1:54:15Speaker 1: My name is Hugh Millin.
- 1:54:16Speaker 4: How are check check check?
- 1:54:17Speaker 1: SAFTI there? We can't hear you?
- 1:54:18Speaker 5: What two one?
- 1:54:20Speaker 1: So if I get nobody to plays that game better
- 1:54:23Speaker 1: than me, Now, nobody plays it better than You're not
- 1:54:24Speaker 1: going to trick me into that game. Well, if I
- 1:54:27Speaker 1: get this correct, If I get this correct, yes, the
- 1:54:30Speaker 1: first one was twenty eight years ago at Ozzie's.
- 1:54:32Speaker 9: I think it was Ozzie's first one at Ozzie's.
- 1:54:35Speaker 15: You think over Queen Anne, Hugh, you remember where it
- 1:54:37Speaker 15: was twenty eight years ago?
- 1:54:39Speaker 9: Where was our first draft?
- 1:54:40Speaker 5: Any idea?
- 1:54:40Speaker 9: Yeah, go ahead and jump on the heads.
- 1:54:42Speaker 1: Jump on the hell what am I brought you for?
- 1:54:43Speaker 1: I brought that up for this reason. I thought our
- 1:54:46Speaker 1: producer Anderson Hurst was not even born yet.
- 1:54:49Speaker 9: That's right. That's right. Well, when you're fifteen years old,
- 1:54:51Speaker 9: a lot of stuff happened.
- 1:54:52Speaker 1: That's that's true.
- 1:54:53Speaker 9: I think you may be right here.
- 1:54:55Speaker 15: The first one of this that we ever did happened
- 1:54:57Speaker 15: in the studio way back in the day. Was that
- 1:55:00Speaker 15: would have been that would have been three point fifty. No,
- 1:55:02Speaker 15: that would have been h one ninety Queen Anne, right,
- 1:55:05Speaker 15: the old Bunker. Yeah, yeah, because you never worked at
- 1:55:08Speaker 15: the old Bunker?
- 1:55:09Speaker 1: Did you eat?
- 1:55:09Speaker 5: You know?
- 1:55:10Speaker 1: I was, I came to three. I I waited till
- 1:55:12Speaker 1: you guys got the three fifty one. Yeah.
- 1:55:14Speaker 15: That that that that was the bomb shelter we ever
- 1:55:16Speaker 15: got attacked. That's where we were all going one, Queen Anne,
- 1:55:20Speaker 15: that thing was bulletproof, man. But I think he was
- 1:55:23Speaker 15: right the first one we ever did, and I think
- 1:55:26Speaker 15: we had did we have media people join us for
- 1:55:29Speaker 15: that one? I think we had media people all over yea,
- 1:55:32Speaker 15: all over the country. And then nobody would call in
- 1:55:35Speaker 15: and Sam Meyer would have to go on the air
- 1:55:37Speaker 15: and just impersonate these guys.
- 1:55:39Speaker 1: Hey, it's a mic from Arizona.
- 1:55:41Speaker 15: Hey, I'm all take I'm gonna go with Donovan mcnaem,
- 1:55:46Speaker 15: Sarahcuse quarterback.
- 1:55:47Speaker 9: I mean that's who it was.
- 1:55:48Speaker 1: Did you actually do a show? Did you do a
- 1:55:50Speaker 1: draft at Aussie's or not?
- 1:55:51Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 1:55:52Speaker 9: We did, we did.
- 1:55:52Speaker 15: We did a couple of drafts to Ausi's. We've done
- 1:55:55Speaker 15: car We've done Ausi's, We've done the Queen Ann Beer Hall,
- 1:55:58Speaker 15: We've done Dino's.
- 1:55:59Speaker 9: A bunch. I don't know, man, I lose track.
- 1:56:01Speaker 1: I was asked.
- 1:56:02Speaker 15: I was a It's like it's like the PGA Championship
- 1:56:05Speaker 15: just floating around the forever courses around the country.
- 1:56:08Speaker 1: I remember when I was new guy KJR doing a
- 1:56:10Speaker 1: night show and you asked me to be the commissioner,
- 1:56:13Speaker 1: which Dick Fan will fill in be fantastic at today.
- 1:56:17Speaker 1: And we did it at a bar in Fremont that
- 1:56:19Speaker 1: no longer exists. It was like some yes, yes, I
- 1:56:23Speaker 1: don't know if I think it's the name of the bar. Yeah. Yeah,
- 1:56:25Speaker 1: we've been all over the place, man. But anyway, Yeah,
- 1:56:27Speaker 1: it was a great honor. By the way, I took
- 1:56:29Speaker 1: it as a great honor that day. You shouldn't have,
- 1:56:31Speaker 1: really I did.
- 1:56:32Speaker 9: I thought it was pretty cool.
- 1:56:34Speaker 1: A new guy, and you know, so think about that.
- 1:56:37Speaker 1: That was nineteen years ago.
- 1:56:38Speaker 5: The right.
- 1:56:39Speaker 15: Yeah, well, we Uh, we've decided you and I that
- 1:56:43Speaker 15: we're gonna do two more years of this and then
- 1:56:44Speaker 15: we're done.
- 1:56:45Speaker 1: Really, yeah, We're going to thirty and we're finished. I'm
- 1:56:49Speaker 1: sick of him, he's sick of me. Enough enough of Listen.
- 1:56:52Speaker 1: First of all, right, that can't happen. And here's why
- 1:56:55Speaker 1: I got the divorce lawyer on light. That can't happen,
- 1:56:58Speaker 1: because if that does happen, Yeah, then what's going to
- 1:57:00Speaker 1: happen is Purple Sheet is going to make somebody else
- 1:57:02Speaker 1: do it.
- 1:57:04Speaker 2: And.
- 1:57:05Speaker 1: I really don't want to be that guy. You know,
- 1:57:08Speaker 1: there's no work involved in this at all. Listen, I
- 1:57:11Speaker 1: know it what fall in line with how you do
- 1:57:13Speaker 1: things anyway. So we know why I'm telling you I
- 1:57:16Speaker 1: don't want that to happen is because I know I
- 1:57:18Speaker 1: know the amount of work you put into it, and
- 1:57:19Speaker 1: that's part of the situation. So, uh, you guys do
- 1:57:23Speaker 1: do a ton of work, are you good? Yeah?
- 1:57:28Speaker 15: The worst thing about this is coming down for the
- 1:57:30Speaker 15: pregame for the mock draft, which is about two hours long.
- 1:57:33Speaker 9: Yeah, and uh, you know, yeah, we've already had.
- 1:57:36Speaker 1: A couple Oh really, it's weird what they're doing out
- 1:57:39Speaker 1: here at the bar we're all we're all in a
- 1:57:42Speaker 1: good mood.
- 1:57:43Speaker 9: Man, Well right, we're all in a good mood.
- 1:57:45Speaker 1: Really. The only people that kind of have to keep
- 1:57:49Speaker 1: it in check would be Faine when he announces the
- 1:57:51Speaker 1: picks and Hugh when he destroys the picks that are making,
- 1:57:55Speaker 1: which will.
- 1:57:56Speaker 15: He'll destroy somebody and then that team will take that
- 1:57:58Speaker 15: guy tomorrow.
- 1:58:00Speaker 9: Billy Price drafted.
- 1:58:02Speaker 15: What year was Billy Price drafted by the Bengals, whatever
- 1:58:04Speaker 15: year it was, twenty twenty maybe I don't know, but
- 1:58:07Speaker 15: we had a guy, some poor bastard came down here
- 1:58:10Speaker 15: to a Dinos and selected Billy Price to the Bengals.
- 1:58:13Speaker 5: And I think you made him.
- 1:58:14Speaker 11: Cry ruin from you, Jesse, you weigh in as well.
- 1:58:19Speaker 4: Yes, And I don't know if anders can.
- 1:58:21Speaker 9: I need a rule in that music, by the way,
- 1:58:23Speaker 9: that says that we gotta go over. So if a
- 1:58:24Speaker 9: guy comes in.
- 1:58:25Speaker 7: Any and he with the tenth pick, he picks the
- 1:58:30Speaker 7: Cardinals to take.
- 1:58:31Speaker 16: Josh Rosen right right, and I killed the guy right right? Okay,
- 1:58:36Speaker 16: because what do you take Josh right? And then the
- 1:58:39Speaker 16: next day the Cardinals take Josh Rosen?
- 1:58:42Speaker 1: Correct?
- 1:58:42Speaker 2: Yes?
- 1:58:43Speaker 7: Who's right?
- 1:58:44Speaker 4: Well, I've got an answer in retrospect.
- 1:58:47Speaker 1: In retrospect, it was you to criticize it because Josh
- 1:58:50Speaker 1: Rosen was a horrible pick.
- 1:58:51Speaker 14: My answer would be you could say they're both right, right,
- 1:58:53Speaker 14: because wait, we don't give the prize out like who
- 1:58:58Speaker 14: we think the guy is most closely?
- 1:59:00Speaker 1: Uh hit, what the team's gonna do.
- 1:59:03Speaker 9: We give the prize out for what's the best pick?
- 1:59:05Speaker 1: Okay, here's what's fair.
- 1:59:09Speaker 9: You know what, you know. It's not your turn to
- 1:59:11Speaker 9: talk yet. All right, just wait until three o'clock.
- 1:59:13Speaker 15: All right, the headset people come down here, they make selections,
- 1:59:17Speaker 15: and we rip them.
- 1:59:18Speaker 9: That's not gonna happen. There's no way in hell now
- 1:59:20Speaker 9: you can.
- 1:59:20Speaker 15: Say, like, hey, that's a horrible pick, and if that
- 1:59:22Speaker 15: happens tomorrow, I'm gonna rip the team for doing it.
- 1:59:25Speaker 9: But you fried the guy.
- 1:59:27Speaker 15: For like you you you you acted like the guy
- 1:59:29Speaker 15: was dead forgotten.
- 1:59:30Speaker 11: No, no, I acted like it was.
- 1:59:32Speaker 14: And by the way, the Billy Price that you're talking
- 1:59:34Speaker 14: about five years in the league, four teams with a
- 1:59:37Speaker 14: terrible it was in the bottom ten percent of PFF
- 1:59:39Speaker 14: grades every time.
- 1:59:40Speaker 1: So guess what.
- 1:59:41Speaker 14: But the Bengals if they knew what what we know now,
- 1:59:45Speaker 14: do you think they would to take him.
- 1:59:46Speaker 9: Hell no, knowing them, they probably would be you know.
- 1:59:49Speaker 16: Yes, I know somebody like like, this is got to
- 1:59:52Speaker 16: make sense to somebody.
- 1:59:54Speaker 1: All I know is this. I've got from from North
- 1:59:56Speaker 1: Gates to Maple Valley. I got a long ass commute. Yeah,
- 1:59:59Speaker 1: and I'm excited because I believe that you guys will
- 2:00:03Speaker 1: be this way for the next Here's the thing we
- 2:00:05Speaker 1: just for segment.
- 2:00:07Speaker 15: We got nothing left to talk about. This is all
- 2:00:09Speaker 15: we were going to talk about at three o'clock. So
- 2:00:11Speaker 15: let's just get right to the pics. Raiders on the
- 2:00:13Speaker 15: clock next.
- 2:00:13Speaker 1: All right, the raiders are the clock. The Maller millon
- 2:00:16Speaker 1: million Maller mock draft coming up standby.
- 2:00:18Speaker 3: For the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness.
- 2:00:22Speaker 9: This is Paddled Day saying so long everyone,