Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 7-09-26 Hour 2 - College Football, Rockies
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, I just uh, hang on hand on hand.
- 0:02Speaker 2: Yeah, we've made a gigantic mistake, big time, Vick.
- 0:06Speaker 3: Vick is.
- 0:07Speaker 2: I just went to the Amhazoo for the first time
- 0:09Speaker 2: since I left last weekend with the baby Jamal King.
- 0:14Speaker 2: You know, the tigers just kind of walk along that
- 0:16Speaker 2: window staring at you. Vic is just pacing like a
- 0:21Speaker 2: caged animal.
- 0:23Speaker 3: The reason I screamed before, and.
- 0:25Speaker 1: Then he goes it makes me want to poop. Yeah,
- 0:28Speaker 1: he did say that, for those who don't know. I
- 0:32Speaker 1: just burst out.
- 0:34Speaker 4: He starts pacing, pacing, and then he starts sort of
- 0:36Speaker 4: trotting toward where I sit. And this is Bart before
- 0:40Speaker 4: Brett's commercial, and he goes, I feel like blanking running
- 0:44Speaker 4: and Bake goes Hi Brett Kane for fanatics, it was
- 0:47Speaker 4: the timing was exquisite. Anyway, I've got it worked out ready.
- 0:51Speaker 4: So Vic's on Monster for the rest of the show.
- 0:53Speaker 4: He's freaking out, but I got it worked out. I
- 0:56Speaker 4: just went and talked to the Queen Bee Tick Okay,
- 1:00Speaker 4: oh no, we may have to kick him out.
- 1:03Speaker 1: So officially, well, we're on the We're on the calendar
- 1:05Speaker 1: right now.
- 1:06Speaker 3: As a show.
- 1:07Speaker 4: We have six total tickets available to us, so US
- 1:11Speaker 4: four with Nelly.
- 1:12Speaker 3: Well, Nell, he's gonna be gone.
- 1:15Speaker 4: That's alan, get him out of here, baka. It is Tuesday,
- 1:19Speaker 4: the twenty first. Yeah, Nell, he's gonna be gone. Still,
- 1:22Speaker 4: he's in France right now.
- 1:25Speaker 3: So we have six total tickets. So maybe the three
- 1:27Speaker 3: of us and then.
- 1:28Speaker 2: Stop drinking it. You know what, I regret all of this.
- 1:30Speaker 2: Stop drinking that. The three of us and maybe three listeners.
- 1:34Speaker 2: I don't know, but we're gonna go to July twenty
- 1:36Speaker 2: first Rockies. It's a Tuesday, Tuesday, July twenty first Rockies
- 1:40Speaker 2: hosting the Nats. That'll be our our official okay, perfect
- 1:45Speaker 2: once a year show Rockies game.
- 1:47Speaker 4: So we got on the calendar the twenty first of July.
- 1:50Speaker 4: If you see us there, say hi, what.
- 1:51Speaker 2: Did you want to talk about? Vick forgot Argentina?
- 1:56Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
- 1:58Speaker 5: FIFA, by the way, suspend to two US Soccer officials
- 2:01Speaker 5: ahead of Monday Nights lost to Belgium. They quietly announced
- 2:05Speaker 5: that on their website. The officials were team manager Sam
- 2:09Speaker 5: Zabatka and US Soccer Vice President of Security Frank Panel.
- 2:14Speaker 5: For what, I don't know, Okay, FIFA announced it. My
- 2:21Speaker 5: neighbor and friend Jim, went to the Argentina game, the
- 2:26Speaker 5: victory over Egypt. It was just a game that they
- 2:29Speaker 5: picked on a whim. They didn't know that they were
- 2:31Speaker 5: going to play Egypt. They didn't know anything. They were
- 2:32Speaker 5: just going to go to Atlanta to go to that game.
- 2:34Speaker 5: His kid's a big Messi fan, huge Argentina Messi fool,
- 2:38Speaker 5: So they got to see it unfold.
- 2:39Speaker 1: The rally, they were down to nothing.
- 2:41Speaker 5: They were sitting in the Argentina section since ninety percent
- 2:44Speaker 5: of the stadium was all Argentina anyway, so it's white
- 2:47Speaker 5: and blue everywhere.
- 2:48Speaker 1: Unreal white and powder blue.
- 2:51Speaker 5: So anyway, he said it was crazy. The energy before
- 2:57Speaker 5: the game, during the game, during the rally was something
- 3:02Speaker 5: he's never been a part.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Well, you're you're watching the greatest player in the history
- 3:06Speaker 2: of the sport.
- 3:08Speaker 1: Single handedly lead the champions from two goals down.
- 3:12Speaker 3: Late, which is.
- 3:14Speaker 2: That's gonna have to stop.
- 3:17Speaker 1: You're gonna listen, You're gonna you're gonna put him down
- 3:20Speaker 1: and I'm gonna kick him till he's passes out.
- 3:22Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw some of your golf balls in some
- 3:24Speaker 2: orifice of his.
- 3:28Speaker 1: But you're watching the greatest player.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Ever make one of the greatest comebacks, at least in
- 3:32Speaker 2: recent memory in the World Cup to keep your team alive.
- 3:34Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure it was amazing.
- 3:35Speaker 5: But the energy, he said in the stadium, even when
- 3:39Speaker 5: they were down to nothing, people were crying, I know,
- 3:44Speaker 5: like the people next to him were crying, well, like tears.
- 3:48Speaker 2: This is what I wanted to get to, Like, this
- 3:49Speaker 2: is what I talked about with the US stuff, and
- 3:53Speaker 2: we don't have that reaction. I don't know how many
- 3:55Speaker 2: Americans were moved to tears when they lost that game,
- 3:59Speaker 2: but you know what I saw, and this actually bothered
- 4:01Speaker 2: me because I do think this is a step in
- 4:06Speaker 2: the right direction for US taking soccer a little bit
- 4:08Speaker 2: more seriously, at least on the world stage. I saw
- 4:11Speaker 2: an article from I forget who it was. It was
- 4:13Speaker 2: a it was a soccer reporter, somebody who covers the
- 4:17Speaker 2: US men's national team saying that we as American fans,
- 4:21Speaker 2: are being way too hard on Christian polisic, which I'm like,
- 4:24Speaker 2: absolutely not. I honestly don't think we'd been hard enough
- 4:29Speaker 2: on Christian policy. I and to react the way that
- 4:34Speaker 2: some have, which is like they're sort of disgusted, not
- 4:37Speaker 2: just with the way that he played, or the fact
- 4:39Speaker 2: that he misses games a lot.
- 4:40Speaker 3: Or so this guy is a leave Brittany alone kind
- 4:43Speaker 3: of guy.
- 4:43Speaker 2: Yes, Or or his comment after the game about the
- 4:46Speaker 2: good news is I can go rest now. It's like
- 4:48Speaker 2: nobody wants to hear that.
- 4:49Speaker 3: Dude.
- 4:51Speaker 2: This is how you treat superstars who fall short.
- 4:53Speaker 5: When you care about the sport, when you enter that realm.
- 4:57Speaker 5: And I think Tim Howard expressed this perfect. He did
- 5:00Speaker 5: a podcast with Landon Donovan and Tim Howard said, you know,
- 5:03Speaker 5: people want that mantle. They want the money, they want
- 5:05Speaker 5: the celebrity, they want the paycheck, they want everything.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Except the criticism. Yeah, when you enter that arena and.
- 5:12Speaker 5: You get to that level, you better be willing to
- 5:14Speaker 5: accept that criticism. Sure, that's just part of the deal.
- 5:18Speaker 5: And if you can't accept it, you don't belong there.
- 5:21Speaker 5: You just don't. He is the US's best player, he's
- 5:25Speaker 5: supposed to be the best player, and he was terrible
- 5:28Speaker 5: in that game.
- 5:28Speaker 2: If you don't think that, if Argentina ended up losing
- 5:31Speaker 2: that game two to nothing, who's going to catch Who's
- 5:32Speaker 2: going to catch the heat that MESSI wouldn't catch a
- 5:35Speaker 2: lot of grief from people you're crazy. So what he
- 5:38Speaker 2: makes is or if England loses, that it's not Harry
- 5:40Speaker 2: Kayane or France. If Embappe played poorly and they lost,
- 5:45Speaker 2: he's going to catch a bunch of criticism.
- 5:47Speaker 3: Here's what he makes.
- 5:48Speaker 4: He makes just over six million in fixed salary excluding bonus.
- 5:53Speaker 5: How about the endorsements. He's made just a Mish World
- 5:55Speaker 5: Cup alone, and.
- 5:57Speaker 4: Annually he makes twenty seven million in off the field endorsements.
- 6:01Speaker 4: In fact, I didn't I didn't know this, but neath.
- 6:02Speaker 2: A year, yes, not just this year, everywhere New.
- 6:06Speaker 4: York City FC apparently approached ac Milan and said we
- 6:11Speaker 4: want him. Okay, you know we're We're gonna give him
- 6:14Speaker 4: over ten million a year to play in MLS. Well,
- 6:16Speaker 4: let me tell you what Ac Milan goes. Eh, he's
- 6:18Speaker 4: like a cornerstone guy for us.
- 6:20Speaker 3: That's that the.
- 6:21Speaker 1: Folks in Italy think he's overrated.
- 6:23Speaker 3: Well he might be, he might be.
- 6:25Speaker 1: He's the American prodigy. Who's overright?
- 6:27Speaker 2: Who's he playing for? Right now?
- 6:27Speaker 3: A Milan?
- 6:29Speaker 5: Isaac on the text line rights and I am so
- 6:33Speaker 5: tired of seeing these bandwagon Argentina fans.
- 6:38Speaker 1: I want to bring up this topic. Alan Baca are
- 6:41Speaker 1: you ready for this, bring a vic Alan Baca.
- 6:46Speaker 5: You understand if the US were to play L Tree,
- 6:50Speaker 5: L Try is it L try er L Tree?
- 6:52Speaker 6: As three?
- 6:53Speaker 5: If the US were to play Mexico in the game
- 6:55Speaker 5: of soccer today, Alan Baca, which side would you root for?
- 7:00Speaker 6: It's the easiest question I've ever been asked. It would
- 7:02Speaker 6: be Mexico, all right?
- 7:05Speaker 1: So Allan, Allan.
- 7:06Speaker 5: The reason I bring this up is because I come
- 7:08Speaker 5: on the show every morning and these guys are.
- 7:10Speaker 1: Tired of me talking about Italy and Italy didn't make it.
- 7:13Speaker 5: But if you were to ask me that question, US
- 7:16Speaker 5: versus Italy, it would be USA all day long, all
- 7:18Speaker 5: day You know that, right?
- 7:19Speaker 1: You know that? So I'm asking you, how can you
- 7:23Speaker 1: say that? How can you do that?
- 7:26Speaker 2: I have a question? How dare you? Yeah?
- 7:27Speaker 3: What? Like?
- 7:28Speaker 6: I don't listening for Italy and USA is a little
- 7:33Speaker 6: different than me rooting for Mexico and USA because they're
- 7:37Speaker 6: direct rivals in sport and in I mean other places,
- 7:41Speaker 6: but in sports specifically, you rooting for Italy and US
- 7:46Speaker 6: doesn't They don't ever play each other.
- 7:49Speaker 5: Correct, They played each other in the World Cup, but rarely. Yeah,
- 7:54Speaker 5: you know, I think the common I guess Italy and France.
- 7:57Speaker 5: I hate France for that reason, right, Italy and Germany?
- 8:00Speaker 5: I hate Germany. I hate Germans and French.
- 8:03Speaker 6: People assume me go on, No, I mean, that's just
- 8:06Speaker 6: my point. Like the Dutch, these guys are rivals. I
- 8:09Speaker 6: had to pick one. When I was young, I used
- 8:12Speaker 6: to root for them both. Then they got I got
- 8:13Speaker 6: to a point that I was like, I can't root
- 8:15Speaker 6: for them both.
- 8:16Speaker 2: So were you Wait? Wait, so were you rooting for
- 8:19Speaker 2: the US to lose even when not playing Mexico?
- 8:22Speaker 1: All right, so you took joy.
- 8:24Speaker 2: In tweeted that.
- 8:25Speaker 6: I text Vic right after I tell he like rubbed
- 8:28Speaker 6: it in on me? I did. I also text I
- 8:31Speaker 6: was still in the group chat for PhD. I text
- 8:34Speaker 6: those guys. But still, that doesn't mean I don't care
- 8:38Speaker 6: about the team, the soccer team.
- 8:41Speaker 3: See I were you're rooting for Canada in the gold
- 8:44Speaker 3: medal game?
- 8:44Speaker 5: I didn't An.
- 8:46Speaker 1: I'm gonna break this down.
- 8:47Speaker 6: I don't care Allan.
- 8:48Speaker 1: Are your parents are they are? Are they born in Mexico? Yes?
- 8:51Speaker 5: Okay, so my parents were born in Italy. My parents
- 8:53Speaker 5: are immigrants from Italy. Your parents are immigrants from Mexico? Right, correct, Okay,
- 8:57Speaker 5: so I'm sure you bring a lot of that culture
- 8:58Speaker 5: with you like I do. Right, So, if the game
- 9:01Speaker 5: is on, your parents are going to root for their
- 9:02Speaker 5: home country.
- 9:03Speaker 1: Yes?
- 9:03Speaker 5: So my parents they didn't even watch sports at that point.
- 9:07Speaker 5: I don't even know what the hell they would root for.
- 9:09Speaker 5: But I was always the US because I'm an American. Yeah,
- 9:12Speaker 5: doesn't that ever strike you as Hey.
- 9:14Speaker 6: I live here now. I, like I said, I used
- 9:17Speaker 6: to be like that. I used to root for them both,
- 9:20Speaker 6: but then I got to a point. I think it
- 9:21Speaker 6: was the two thousand and two World Cup they played
- 9:23Speaker 6: each other, USA one in the round of sixteen, I
- 9:26Speaker 6: want to say, And then I was like, oh cool, what.
- 9:30Speaker 1: About the time the USA saved Mexico's but to get
- 9:34Speaker 1: them in?
- 9:35Speaker 3: We have the Do we still have the clip?
- 9:37Speaker 2: No, it's not damn it anymore.
- 9:38Speaker 6: I deleted it.
- 9:39Speaker 2: Wait.
- 9:40Speaker 5: Well, you know what, I'll give you credit for holding
- 9:42Speaker 5: true to your your virtues and your your fandom. I guess,
- 9:46Speaker 5: but I don't get it.
- 9:48Speaker 6: But ipect I'm just a petty sports fan. That's just
- 9:51Speaker 6: me with with any sports. Once my team is out, yeah,
- 9:55Speaker 6: I want everyone else to suffer.
- 9:57Speaker 1: You remind me a lot of Raider fans.
- 10:01Speaker 5: You remind me of the Raider fan who lives among
- 10:03Speaker 5: us in Denver who are Denver Natives. Because I grew
- 10:05Speaker 5: up with a bunch of them, Denver Natives who live
- 10:07Speaker 5: in Denver but purposely root for the Raiders because they
- 10:10Speaker 5: want to be the black sheep and the rebel.
- 10:12Speaker 1: And I used to always say to them, what is
- 10:13Speaker 1: wrong with you? Seriously?
- 10:15Speaker 5: What is there is a deep penetrating problem in your
- 10:19Speaker 5: in your family. If you're a Raiders fan, you remind
- 10:22Speaker 5: me of that kind of person.
- 10:23Speaker 6: I just can't be with you. I can't be a socer,
- 10:25Speaker 6: a US soccer fan.
- 10:26Speaker 1: You know.
- 10:26Speaker 6: You guys just come around every four years, pretend to
- 10:29Speaker 6: like it for three weeks, then you bow out.
- 10:32Speaker 2: Who did I threaten? Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait?
- 10:34Speaker 1: Did Us and Mexico bow out in the same.
- 10:38Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
- 10:38Speaker 1: In the round of thirty two, you lost an Azteca.
- 10:41Speaker 1: You lost, You lost with a man down on the other.
- 10:44Speaker 6: Side, Vick, you want to go that route.
- 10:46Speaker 5: You got to be your You had forty minutes to
- 10:49Speaker 5: play and and they were down a man and you
- 10:52Speaker 5: couldn't win that game.
- 10:53Speaker 6: Vic Harry Kane scored seventy goals for club and country.
- 10:58Speaker 6: This year he might win the blown door Jude Bellium.
- 11:02Speaker 6: These guys are world class, you know, on world class.
- 11:07Speaker 6: Mexico has guys all on Liga MX teams. All right,
- 11:10Speaker 6: let's relax a little bit on that whole game.
- 11:14Speaker 2: Second, Who did I threaten to hog tie and roll
- 11:17Speaker 2: over the Canadian border?
- 11:18Speaker 3: Johnny Mitchell?
- 11:19Speaker 4: John Mitchell, guess what, baka your next I'm gonna drive
- 11:22Speaker 4: to the northern border and now the southern border.
- 11:24Speaker 1: I'm gonna with people hog tied. I'm gonna roll them over,
- 11:26Speaker 1: hog tide and roll them over. Isn't that funny?
- 11:28Speaker 3: What sports?
- 11:29Speaker 1: Yeah? Because Johnny Mitchell was all all yeah, he's all
- 11:31Speaker 1: He was on our butts the entire time.
- 11:33Speaker 3: He was on our butts.
- 11:34Speaker 1: But Johnny's Canadian, Allen's American.
- 11:38Speaker 4: Yeah, Bacca, you've got, you've got.
- 11:41Speaker 3: What about what about the Dream Team?
- 11:43Speaker 2: I like them?
- 11:44Speaker 1: Yes you have dual citizenship. Yes, all right, I'll give
- 11:47Speaker 1: you some allowance. I'll give you some allow I still
- 11:50Speaker 1: don't understand it.
- 11:51Speaker 6: I mean, this has forgotten a lot of Spanish, but
- 11:53Speaker 6: I didn't know a lot at one point.
- 11:54Speaker 5: This is the greatest country in the world, all right,
- 11:57Speaker 5: And I don't care what anybody says now, but it's
- 12:00Speaker 5: not to say I'm not a jinguist. I'm not a xenophobe.
- 12:03Speaker 5: I've obviously traveled the world. I love going to different places.
- 12:06Speaker 5: By the way, I l and my my daughter just
- 12:08Speaker 5: finalized it last night. She's having a destination wedding in Mexico.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Nice. Yeah, we can't wait.
- 12:14Speaker 6: It's awesome, welcome.
- 12:16Speaker 5: But at the same time, if I'm down in Port
- 12:18Speaker 5: of Iarda, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be an American
- 12:22Speaker 5: soccer fan. I'm not gonna just all of a sudden
- 12:24Speaker 5: turn to the other side because I'm in Port of Iarda.
- 12:27Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 12:28Speaker 6: You're proving my point right now, but You'm not just
- 12:31Speaker 6: gonna be an American soccer man because I'm here in Colorado.
- 12:34Speaker 1: But you're American, okay.
- 12:35Speaker 6: But I don't need to be. I don't need to
- 12:37Speaker 6: root for that team, Listen. I was rooting for the
- 12:39Speaker 6: US baseball team I was, and the Mexico Soccer Era
- 12:42Speaker 6: baseball team. Actually, so that's that's a little different for
- 12:44Speaker 6: some reason for me.
- 12:46Speaker 1: So in the Olympics, you do you root for the Mexican.
- 12:49Speaker 6: I mean, they don't have a lot. Whenever they're in it,
- 12:53Speaker 6: they're not in it very much.
- 12:56Speaker 1: Guys, Am I the only one you see something here
- 12:58Speaker 1: to you?
- 13:00Speaker 6: Hey, listen, it makes sense in my head.
- 13:03Speaker 3: You got a weird head, bro.
- 13:05Speaker 6: They're direct rivals, Guys, I can't root for them both.
- 13:08Speaker 5: I know they are direct rivals. But even I all
- 13:11Speaker 5: right understanding the rivalry. Even I was pulling for Mexico
- 13:14Speaker 5: against England, I was pulling. Yeah, I'm not a jerk
- 13:20Speaker 5: to be rooting against the US when they're playing. You
- 13:23Speaker 5: should have been as soon as your team got ousted.
- 13:25Speaker 5: You should have turned to leegies as said. You know what,
- 13:27Speaker 5: I'm a dual citizen. I now root for the US.
- 13:30Speaker 5: That's the proper thing to do.
- 13:31Speaker 6: No, can't do that.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Get them off, get them off the controls. Well, then
- 13:36Speaker 1: nobody can run the controls. Get ticket here.
- 13:41Speaker 2: I just saw something. This is you want to talk
- 13:44Speaker 2: about being in a brand new world. Yahoo Sports just
- 13:47Speaker 2: launched something brand new, never been done before, never thought
- 13:52Speaker 2: it would ever be done, But it's here. We'll get
- 13:55Speaker 2: to it next. I guess we should have seen this coming.
- 13:59Speaker 2: But Yahoo's Sports has launched something new that will begin
- 14:05Speaker 2: in about a month and a half ish college fantasy football.
- 14:13Speaker 3: Wow, really.
- 14:18Speaker 2: Didn't think it would ever happen.
- 14:20Speaker 3: Look at the.
- 14:20Speaker 1: Banner right here on the Look at the banner on there.
- 14:22Speaker 1: Look Brett, Wow, wow, wow wow. College fantasy football.
- 14:30Speaker 5: I'm not surprised. You know, college football has been now
- 14:34Speaker 5: it's it's taking that turn. It's more about the player
- 14:36Speaker 5: than it is the team because the players churn teams
- 14:38Speaker 5: so many times. You know, you look at a collegiate
- 14:42Speaker 5: player who goes to the NFL, right and take it
- 14:45Speaker 5: like a collegiate basketball player.
- 14:47Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not hey he went to this college.
- 14:50Speaker 5: It's how many colleges, how many different trips, how many
- 14:54Speaker 5: different rides.
- 14:56Speaker 2: So, for those wondering, this is very similar in school
- 15:00Speaker 2: oring to the NFL fantasy system. You have a quarterback,
- 15:04Speaker 2: to running backs, two receivers, a tight end, they have
- 15:06Speaker 2: two flex spots, a defense. But what they have is
- 15:09Speaker 2: a team offense.
- 15:10Speaker 4: Correct, a team offense that where every touchdown, field goal,
- 15:14Speaker 4: every win you get.
- 15:15Speaker 2: So a touchdown is three points five hundred or sorry,
- 15:18Speaker 2: three hundred yards of offense is a point and a half,
- 15:21Speaker 2: So turnovers are minus two that sort of thing.
- 15:24Speaker 4: Yeah, But at the same time, do you take a
- 15:26Speaker 4: powerhouse SEC school that you know who's gonna win at
- 15:29Speaker 4: least ten games, like Georgia because you get points for
- 15:32Speaker 4: a win. Yeah, Or do you go to a power
- 15:36Speaker 4: the best team in a week er conference.
- 15:39Speaker 2: You like a back in the day, like a Timmy
- 15:41Speaker 2: Chang Hawaii football team to throw up like seven hundred yards?
- 15:45Speaker 1: Was it?
- 15:46Speaker 3: Who is it? Jones?
- 15:48Speaker 4: Uh?
- 15:49Speaker 2: The head coach for Hawaii?
- 15:52Speaker 1: Yeah? Which Jones?
- 15:54Speaker 3: No?
- 15:54Speaker 1: No, no, no, it was Jude June Jones.
- 15:57Speaker 3: June Jones.
- 15:58Speaker 2: Yes, it was Timmy chan Colt Brennan and June Jones.
- 16:02Speaker 4: He's on the sideline wearring a la and a Hawaiian
- 16:05Speaker 4: sure does. His team's going for six bills above, you know.
- 16:08Speaker 3: Over the top. It's crazy, So.
- 16:10Speaker 2: Texas says, college fantasy football has been a thing for
- 16:12Speaker 2: years now.
- 16:13Speaker 4: It's been in a shadow. It's been in the shadows.
- 16:15Speaker 4: It hasn't been a real real thing. But now it's
- 16:17Speaker 4: a real thing.
- 16:18Speaker 2: It's just funny. It's another sort of reminder. You know,
- 16:23Speaker 2: back in I don't know, twenty twelve, whatever, decade and
- 16:27Speaker 2: a half ago something like that, there was always a
- 16:30Speaker 2: because I lived in the all college football, all the
- 16:34Speaker 2: time world in sports radio. That's what Nebraska is. And
- 16:38Speaker 2: I always had a hard time because I struggled with
- 16:40Speaker 2: the idea of At that time, even though it was
- 16:44Speaker 2: starting to get blurred a little bit, those were just
- 16:46Speaker 2: college students playing a sport. And I'm like, how critical
- 16:51Speaker 2: should you be to a quarterback who's got to go
- 16:54Speaker 2: to his econ class tomorrow, who's just on scholarship? Right?
- 16:58Speaker 2: And I'm sure some guys are getting paid under the
- 17:01Speaker 2: table their kids, but at that time, it did feel
- 17:04Speaker 2: that way, like this kid's eighteen years old. He just
- 17:08Speaker 2: he just went to prom a few months ago, and
- 17:10Speaker 2: I'm like, this dude sucks, Like is that.
- 17:12Speaker 1: Fair to do? But now then everybody's getting money. It's like, yeah,
- 17:16Speaker 1: I guess who cares.
- 17:17Speaker 5: You're a professional athlete. Now now it's fair game. Like
- 17:20Speaker 5: it or not, it's fair game. You're a professional athlete.
- 17:22Speaker 1: You're making money. The money is coming from the free market. Correct.
- 17:26Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost like it's kind of it's kind of unfortunate.
- 17:29Speaker 4: We were talking about Juju Lewis the other day.
- 17:32Speaker 1: I don't want to hear. I don't want to hear. Oh,
- 17:34Speaker 1: you can't do that. He's just a kid.
- 17:35Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:35Speaker 1: See, that's the thing can't do that anymore. My kid't right,
- 17:39Speaker 1: are I just said, I can't do that? Vic I
- 17:41Speaker 1: just said when he's talking about the offense on me,
- 17:44Speaker 1: I said, he's the only way he was a freshman
- 17:47Speaker 1: last year.
- 17:48Speaker 4: Well, if you're getting paid money, I don't care. If
- 17:50Speaker 4: you're nineteen years old, man, you're gonna There was a
- 17:54Speaker 4: time when kids got the benefit of it out because
- 17:56Speaker 4: they're just amateur kids, you know, no, no, no, And they're
- 17:58Speaker 4: so young, their brains are developed, and well, now what
- 18:02Speaker 4: I mean now these now these kids are raking in
- 18:04Speaker 4: a couple million a year.
- 18:05Speaker 3: Well is it fair to get on their bake.
- 18:07Speaker 2: There was a difference between criticizing the freshman point guard
- 18:10Speaker 2: from Saint Bonaventure back in two thousand and three and
- 18:14Speaker 2: criticizing Lebron James who was drafted out of high school.
- 18:17Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like, he's a professional basketball player,
- 18:20Speaker 2: you're on the biggest stage, you're making a lot of money.
- 18:23Speaker 2: The criticism comes with it. The kid who literally had
- 18:27Speaker 2: to get his exam in before he hopped on the
- 18:30Speaker 2: team bus to play for you know, Gonzaga in two
- 18:33Speaker 2: thousand and one is a different story.
- 18:36Speaker 4: What's interesting, It's like they're They're the same with a
- 18:38Speaker 4: team offense position, never taking a playoff or getting substituted
- 18:42Speaker 4: out of a game. The truly dominant teams within their
- 18:44Speaker 4: conferences stand out when it comes to evaluating the position. Yeah, Vick,
- 18:48Speaker 4: here are this, Brett, everybody, here's a little trivia.
- 18:51Speaker 1: Don't look.
- 18:52Speaker 4: Here are the six teams to eclipse the two hundred
- 18:55Speaker 4: point mark during the twenty five regular season twelve games.
- 18:58Speaker 3: Name them?
- 19:00Speaker 2: Okay, this is.
- 19:01Speaker 3: This is team offense, which is a.
- 19:02Speaker 4: Category scored two hundred points or more in this new
- 19:05Speaker 4: cat Yeah, to score two hundred points or.
- 19:07Speaker 3: More for a season.
- 19:08Speaker 2: Okay, Indiana did it.
- 19:09Speaker 5: Absolutely they were number one. Miami Nope, Miami, Texas Tech
- 19:14Speaker 5: they were number two. Texas Texas offense was horrible.
- 19:17Speaker 4: In the CFP in the season. Would talk in regular season?
- 19:21Speaker 4: It's all regular season. Ohio State they were number six.
- 19:26Speaker 4: Oregon not there. So this is where this is where
- 19:30Speaker 4: if you're gonna play start thinking. Notre Dame they were
- 19:34Speaker 4: number three.
- 19:34Speaker 1: Excellent. I think I got a wild card. Notre Dame
- 19:37Speaker 1: was the number three offense. Correct and point five.
- 19:42Speaker 4: Okay, Like I told you, when I'm dead, this is
- 19:45Speaker 4: all I'm gonna think about.
- 19:47Speaker 2: I got a wild card. I think Diego Pavias scored
- 19:52Speaker 2: a lot of points. Vanderbilt was number five. Now thinking
- 19:56Speaker 2: to yourself, there's no way that Vandy. If you're gonna
- 19:59Speaker 2: play this and you have the mental capacity to deal
- 20:02Speaker 2: with pro and college football every week, than God bless
- 20:05Speaker 2: you because I don't.
- 20:06Speaker 3: But that's what you're gonna start thinking about.
- 20:08Speaker 4: Like who's the other team like Vandy sec It was
- 20:12Speaker 4: Utah Utah, So you got a dominant offense inside the
- 20:15Speaker 4: Big twelve. Vandy may be a bad football team overall,
- 20:19Speaker 4: or you know, not bad but with Pavia, but Pavia
- 20:23Speaker 4: and that offense, they racked up points and points and points.
- 20:26Speaker 5: You guys, it just it just it dawned on me
- 20:29Speaker 5: like an epiphany during this conversation. You know what college
- 20:32Speaker 5: sports has done now because we are not weighing as
- 20:36Speaker 5: much value in the association and the loyalty to the player,
- 20:39Speaker 5: because the players switch sides all the time, It's more
- 20:42Speaker 5: important than ever now to fall in love with the
- 20:45Speaker 5: brand the team. Now your loyalty lies simply with the
- 20:49Speaker 5: team more so than ever. Like if you have a team,
- 20:52Speaker 5: well before you'd be like, oh gotta love this guy
- 20:55Speaker 5: on this team. Now it's just the team because half
- 20:57Speaker 5: of us don't even know who the hell plays for
- 20:58Speaker 5: your team anymore year to year, Right, you don't even
- 21:01Speaker 5: know who played for your team year to year because
- 21:04Speaker 5: the roster turnover is immense.
- 21:05Speaker 4: I'm curious how many new players will be on Notre
- 21:08Speaker 4: Dame this year.
- 21:09Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that question.
- 21:11Speaker 5: They have some of the by the way, least turnover,
- 21:14Speaker 5: least turnover of most teams, but I still don't know
- 21:17Speaker 5: that they could.
- 21:17Speaker 4: But it could be. It could be. You could have
- 21:20Speaker 4: six new starters. But I would argue that college I mean,
- 21:23Speaker 4: I mean from outside, not on the team, taking a spot,
- 21:26Speaker 4: talking about coming in from the outside.
- 21:29Speaker 2: College sports has always been that because the turnover was
- 21:31Speaker 2: three years, four years anyway.
- 21:33Speaker 3: But yeah, but you had guys waiting in the wings.
- 21:35Speaker 5: You were getting as semblance. You had a semblance of
- 21:37Speaker 5: who to pull for.
- 21:38Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt, no doubt about.
- 21:41Speaker 5: Notre Dame of the nation and returning production, yes of
- 21:46Speaker 5: its previous run twenty fourteen. Okay, Yeah, and that's usually
- 21:49Speaker 5: the case for the school too. It's got the lowest
- 21:51Speaker 5: attrition rate in the country.
- 21:52Speaker 4: But that's what makes it so interesting Now, I guess
- 21:54Speaker 4: is that if you've got a lot of money, you
- 21:57Speaker 4: can clear guys out, bring a bunch of guys. You
- 21:59Speaker 4: can change the you can change the foundation of your team.
- 22:03Speaker 1: In a year.
- 22:04Speaker 5: Baka, do me a favorite? Can you throw that same
- 22:06Speaker 5: stat up at SEU? Because I have no outside of
- 22:10Speaker 5: the quarterback and a couple other players, I have no
- 22:12Speaker 5: idea who's on the team.
- 22:13Speaker 1: Do you guys? No, do you guys know who plays
- 22:16Speaker 1: for CU football? Not really, not like not like I
- 22:20Speaker 1: used to the turnovers.
- 22:22Speaker 5: Just so if you had ask me that question ten
- 22:24Speaker 5: years ago, I can give you half the team.
- 22:28Speaker 3: Yeah, sixty six new players?
- 22:30Speaker 1: All right, Now, you can throw any team in there.
- 22:32Speaker 1: I'm just curious. Let's just throw a random name of team.
- 22:36Speaker 4: How about let's go to Let's go to Wisconsin, Wisconsin,
- 22:39Speaker 4: go to Wisconsin, Boca Field, Wiconsin, Let's do the Badgers.
- 22:42Speaker 1: So easy this is you just put it in there
- 22:44Speaker 1: and Ai takes care of it.
- 22:45Speaker 5: Shout out to Ai, man, I know, massive roster turnover,
- 22:49Speaker 5: all right, So.
- 22:50Speaker 2: Thirty four recruiting class and thirty three transmits, that's sixty
- 22:54Speaker 2: seven new players.
- 22:55Speaker 1: It's just a.
- 22:56Speaker 4: Complete So in Wisconsin, there you are, Brett. Wisconsin has
- 22:59Speaker 4: been a good team in the Big Ten.
- 23:01Speaker 1: For a long time, I mean up until historically. Right.
- 23:03Speaker 5: Yeah, to Indiana the National Championship. Indiana, you would think
- 23:08Speaker 5: they'd have to keep a lot of No, they're losing
- 23:10Speaker 5: a lot of guys too. Yeah, I mean.
- 23:13Speaker 2: Quarterback I win google me uh near basketball, that's beast. Basketball.
- 23:20Speaker 1: Basketball is even worse than football. You guys know that,
- 23:22Speaker 1: right Basketball Kansas, they lose nine guys a.
- 23:26Speaker 5: Year, significant roster turnover for the football team. And it
- 23:32Speaker 5: looks like, Yeah, I mean, they b a lot of
- 23:35Speaker 5: dudes to the NFL, So.
- 23:38Speaker 2: Losing the NFL is different than four dudes to go
- 23:42Speaker 2: play somewhere else.
- 23:43Speaker 5: But dude, the point I'm getting at even like when
- 23:46Speaker 5: Mendoza was drafted, when everyone's drafted, they say, oh, yeah,
- 23:49Speaker 5: he went to Indiana. Well, don't forget he also went
- 23:52Speaker 5: to col Yeah, and so and so's drafted. The kid
- 23:55Speaker 5: that was drafted by the Nuggets out of Saint John's,
- 23:58Speaker 5: he went to two other schools before Saint Johns Hopkins.
- 24:01Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is how it is now. It's not
- 24:05Speaker 1: It's not a one school. Stop.
- 24:07Speaker 5: Well, great players, the very talented players make multiple stops.
- 24:11Speaker 4: Unless they're at Alabama and they're getting four mil per No.
- 24:15Speaker 1: Even they move. I'm Carson Beck was George R Championship.
- 24:20Speaker 1: They're more so to move for a grad grad year.
- 24:24Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's just part of the deal, now.
- 24:28Speaker 2: I uh see you. One is is tough because I
- 24:34Speaker 2: said this from the beginning, and this is why that
- 24:37Speaker 2: quote the other day from Juju lewis I think hit
- 24:40Speaker 2: people really oddly. And maybe he didn't mean it this way.
- 24:43Speaker 2: I don't know, but when he said that.
- 24:47Speaker 4: Was it.
- 24:47Speaker 2: We weren't looking at we weren't looking at defenses. We're
- 24:50Speaker 2: just playing high school free ball. Whatever said forever Like
- 24:55Speaker 2: from the day that Dion was hired here, Wow, I
- 24:59Speaker 2: don't know what kind of coach Dion is like actual
- 25:02Speaker 2: coach x's and o's drop a game plan, out scheme
- 25:05Speaker 2: the opposing team, Like I never knew if that would
- 25:07Speaker 2: be something that you would have the advantage in more
- 25:11Speaker 2: often than not. But I thought that Dion would do
- 25:16Speaker 2: one thing, which is bring in immense amounts of talent.
- 25:20Speaker 2: And I think that's maybe the most disappointing thing so
- 25:23Speaker 2: far is you haven't really seen it.
- 25:26Speaker 1: He got Travis Hunter and Schudoor from.
- 25:27Speaker 2: The very jump. Okay, that's great, but that was that
- 25:30Speaker 2: came with the package of Dion coming here. And what
- 25:33Speaker 2: I can't figure out is is it a lack of
- 25:36Speaker 2: money or is it that people used what Dion was
- 25:43Speaker 2: basically the innovator of which is I'm going to rehul
- 25:46Speaker 2: my roster every year through the transfer people, and then
- 25:48Speaker 2: everybody else everybody's doing it too. That sounds great.
- 25:51Speaker 4: Well, you remember the guy at Oregon what's his face, Lanning?
- 25:55Speaker 4: Dan Lanning getting on Primes Bacon about that. Yeah, well,
- 25:59Speaker 4: not mean everybody's doing I just showed you Wisconsin for
- 26:03Speaker 4: crying out loud. We just saw Indiana the national champs.
- 26:07Speaker 1: I didn't realize this. How about the CSU rams You
- 26:09Speaker 1: ready for this.
- 26:09Speaker 2: Brett, Alabama's only returning forty one percent of their snaps
- 26:14Speaker 2: from the freeze.
- 26:14Speaker 3: Do you see what? You see? What I mean?
- 26:15Speaker 2: But I think a lot of those are Alabama gets
- 26:17Speaker 2: guys drafted. I don't know how many guys leave.
- 26:20Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys they they well, yeah, it's
- 26:23Speaker 1: transfer portal.
- 26:24Speaker 4: Dude, right, dig this, I just noticed I just looked
- 26:27Speaker 4: this up.
- 26:28Speaker 1: Attrician rates going to be the next I'm telling you
- 26:30Speaker 1: right now, college football attrition.
- 26:32Speaker 5: Rates are going to be stats that we're going to
- 26:34Speaker 5: be paying attention. Greed, It's going to be a big deal.
- 26:37Speaker 5: Chemistry matters.
- 26:39Speaker 4: Rams new head coach Jim Moore Junior. Yeah, lost fifty
- 26:43Speaker 4: nine players to the transfer portal.
- 26:46Speaker 3: Fifty nine.
- 26:47Speaker 2: What happens when a new coach comes in? Agreed, But
- 26:49Speaker 2: that's a given with a new coach. Well now, but
- 26:51Speaker 2: it didn't used to be that. I mean fifty, I
- 26:53Speaker 2: mean it's.
- 26:53Speaker 1: About sixty guys out of the program.
- 26:55Speaker 4: If you imagine, if you're a guy who's stayed, You're
- 26:59Speaker 4: looking around, like, but all my buddies are gone, and
- 27:03Speaker 4: the buddy's coming.
- 27:04Speaker 3: It's just weird.
- 27:05Speaker 5: I'm going back. It's July ninth. College football is two
- 27:08Speaker 5: months away. You're a CU football fan. You're a CSU
- 27:13Speaker 5: football fan who.
- 27:15Speaker 1: Plays for the team. Think about this for a second.
- 27:20Speaker 5: When ten twenty years ago and you were two months
- 27:22Speaker 5: away from football, would you have an identity? Would you
- 27:25Speaker 5: be able to identify five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten
- 27:27Speaker 5: players on the team if I.
- 27:29Speaker 2: Was still doing a show on Nebraska, I don't know
- 27:30Speaker 2: how I'd do it.
- 27:31Speaker 5: Who plays football for the team.
- 27:36Speaker 3: It's gonna be.
- 27:37Speaker 1: And that's where we live now. We live in this
- 27:39Speaker 1: world where you have no idea.
- 27:41Speaker 5: Who even plays for your team, but you're supporting the brand,
- 27:45Speaker 5: the brand bockets that say.
- 27:46Speaker 2: The Organ Ducks had fifty nine guys just out of
- 27:49Speaker 2: the progress.
- 27:50Speaker 6: They had sixteen portal in and fifty nine portal aisle.
- 27:53Speaker 1: And that's the same coat. That's the Organ Ducks.
- 27:55Speaker 4: That's Landing and that's the same that's the guy that
- 27:57Speaker 4: was all over Primes Bacon about it.
- 27:59Speaker 1: Geeze, what a nightmare to be a college coach right now?
- 28:03Speaker 4: Like what an absolute I want to do that crap
- 28:06Speaker 4: because I look at our lads right now. I'm looking
- 28:07Speaker 4: at our lads. The current CU depth chart it says
- 28:12Speaker 4: wait wait.
- 28:12Speaker 2: Wait wait, it actually lists their nil that they got
- 28:15Speaker 2: for leaving too. Like this dude, Bryson Beaver went from
- 28:18Speaker 2: Oregon to Georgia. He's a quarterback seven hundred thousand dollars.
- 28:23Speaker 1: And by the way, those numbers.
- 28:24Speaker 5: I was talking to somebody who is, let's say, very
- 28:28Speaker 5: in the know. Oh Gray is going to Notre dame
- 28:31Speaker 5: this this nil stuff.
- 28:32Speaker 1: He's very in the know.
- 28:34Speaker 5: And the numbers that are given in nil, like Oh,
- 28:37Speaker 5: this program spends this much that's not there.
- 28:39Speaker 1: It's not even accurate. Yeah, it's not entirely accurate.
- 28:43Speaker 5: You know how much money that is not even accounted
- 28:46Speaker 5: for that is spent on some of these dudes.
- 28:48Speaker 2: Okay, you know what's blowing me away with this is
- 28:49Speaker 2: your scroll Scroll back up for me and let's see
- 28:52Speaker 2: the guys that have teams that are settled here. Usually
- 28:56Speaker 2: when you're transferring from Oregon back in the day, you
- 28:59Speaker 2: transferred because I got a guy in front of me,
- 29:01Speaker 2: it's really good, I'm probably not gonna play for a
- 29:03Speaker 2: couple of years. Let me go somewhere else to play, right,
- 29:05Speaker 2: And so you'd go to I don't know, you go
- 29:07Speaker 2: from Oregon to San Diego State, Oregon to Wazoo or
- 29:11Speaker 2: something like that. Correct, this is Oregon to Georgia, Oregon
- 29:16Speaker 2: to LSU Dame, Organ to Alabama.
- 29:20Speaker 1: That's crazy to me, Organ to Arkansas.
- 29:23Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. They're all multiple stops. And you
- 29:26Speaker 5: made mentioned that you know the big players don't move.
- 29:28Speaker 5: Yeah they do, Yeah, they do, because you know what moves,
- 29:31Speaker 5: the money every year moves and when you're being offered
- 29:34Speaker 5: that money, and it's a huge financial stake you're gonna move,
- 29:37Speaker 5: which is why, frankly, I'm impressed Notre Dame is able
- 29:41Speaker 5: to hold seventy two percent of their roster together. Yeah, hey,
- 29:43Speaker 5: they must have you know what, they must have drummed
- 29:45Speaker 5: up money.
- 29:46Speaker 4: They must have if I'm looking right now, I'm looking
- 29:48Speaker 4: right now, right here, it says, according to our lads,
- 29:52Speaker 4: that every single proposed starter on defense as a transfer
- 29:57Speaker 4: in on which team the Buffaloes.
- 30:00Speaker 1: Every single player, every single okay, every think about it.
- 30:03Speaker 4: So come around here, make sure I'm right about this. Okay,
- 30:06Speaker 4: these are twenty twenty six transfers. You've got one too.
- 30:10Speaker 4: You've got everybody gold is a transfer. You've got one, two, three, four,
- 30:13Speaker 4: five offensive players. And then look at the defense, all
- 30:18Speaker 4: gold transfer. Look at that. The entire starting defensive unit
- 30:21Speaker 4: is all new players.
- 30:23Speaker 1: Right, Look, how do you so? I will ask you?
- 30:25Speaker 1: Guild success off it? You can build it.
- 30:27Speaker 5: It's got to be microwaved. You have to microwave it. Now,
- 30:30Speaker 5: it's it's not sustainable. It's microwave.
- 30:32Speaker 3: I mean, did it so obviously, but but he also
- 30:35Speaker 3: did it.
- 30:35Speaker 1: He also did it in a two year span.
- 30:38Speaker 4: All right, So he goes he's going from Ohio State
- 30:41Speaker 4: to the Buffalo's Okay, yeah, joh John.
- 30:43Speaker 1: Boyd Yeah from Indiana. I will ask you guys again.
- 30:48Speaker 5: You're with your buddies, you're in the car, you're you're
- 30:51Speaker 5: on the way to the golf course, you're taking a
- 30:53Speaker 5: golf trip, and you're talking about your team this year,
- 30:57Speaker 5: and uh and you ask your buddy, hey, how's that
- 30:58Speaker 5: CU defense look.
- 31:00Speaker 3: With the linebackers.
- 31:01Speaker 1: You have no idea who plays for your team anymore?
- 31:03Speaker 1: I know you have no unless you really get down
- 31:06Speaker 1: and dirty like we are right now.
- 31:08Speaker 5: You have no idea who plays for your college football team.
- 31:13Speaker 5: This is what the nil and Transfer Portal is done.
- 31:17Speaker 5: It has made it a mishmash of names.
- 31:20Speaker 2: Well, BAKA just went through three guys in a row
- 31:22Speaker 2: that all had to use their third school the third one.
- 31:27Speaker 5: So I think we can all agree on one thing,
- 31:29Speaker 5: all right, it's gotten out.
- 31:33Speaker 2: Fourth school Stanford, Sanford or something.
- 31:40Speaker 3: Auburn, No Alabama, A and M. I'm sorry, I can't see Maryland.
- 31:45Speaker 4: Maryland buffs at Cedric Smith, Tennessee, guys, Notre Dame to
- 31:51Speaker 4: see you, Kree Thomas.
- 31:52Speaker 1: Guys.
- 31:53Speaker 5: I think we all agree. We can all agree. It's
- 31:57Speaker 5: great that these jen are making money. They're not kids, gentlemen,
- 32:03Speaker 5: they're professional athletes. Fine, make your money. There has to
- 32:08Speaker 5: be there has to be a restriction. There has to
- 32:12Speaker 5: be a rule. You can't hop scotch after one years.
- 32:16Speaker 2: I can't do this. The one thing that they could
- 32:19Speaker 2: do right now that I think most got to be
- 32:21Speaker 2: a contract most people would not balk at and it
- 32:25Speaker 2: would save things immediately. One transfer. You get one.
- 32:29Speaker 1: Free no matter what the circumstance is.
- 32:31Speaker 2: Coach leaves, you don't like your playing time, you don't
- 32:33Speaker 2: like the school, you miss your parents, you do it whatever.
- 32:35Speaker 2: You get one free transfer. If you want to transfer
- 32:37Speaker 2: again after that, who's going to enforce that. It's the
- 32:41Speaker 2: the NC double A can there's still eligibility requirements.
- 32:44Speaker 3: You're telling me.
- 32:44Speaker 4: That that the SEC and the Big ten aren't gonna
- 32:47Speaker 4: fight like hell for that.
- 32:48Speaker 2: But I'm saying for the good, I mean, for they
- 32:52Speaker 2: might support it. I don't think that they like trying
- 32:54Speaker 2: to keep their own guys every year either. All I'm
- 32:56Speaker 2: saying is, I think what's fair is you give them
- 32:58Speaker 2: one free transfer and say you got one shot to
- 33:01Speaker 2: go wherever you want, whenever you want. After that, if
- 33:04Speaker 2: you want to go again. There's no more. I'm going
- 33:06Speaker 2: to my fourth school in four years. If you're gonna
- 33:09Speaker 2: do that again afterwards, it's the old transfer rule. You
- 33:12Speaker 2: gotta sit out a year before you play again. And
- 33:14Speaker 2: I think that would curb a lot of this a lot,
- 33:17Speaker 2: because I'll tell you what the problem is. I don't
- 33:19Speaker 2: even know if it's necessarily the teams or anything. It's
- 33:21Speaker 2: somebody making a promise to them. I'll get you more
- 33:24Speaker 2: money over here. So three zo three five oh four
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- 33:31Speaker 2: in Lakewood. We invite you to watch a fief for
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- 33:51Speaker 4: You want a tease when we come back for Oh,
- 33:54Speaker 4: by the way, something in baseball that's changed so much
- 34:00Speaker 4: and it infuriates me and maybe you too.
- 34:03Speaker 2: Brett Okay, get to it next. Oh, by the way,
- 34:07Speaker 2: his stories around sports in the world, we feel like
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- 34:11Speaker 1: Hell of a read.
- 34:12Speaker 5: By the way, motion, Hey, great jobs.
- 34:17Speaker 2: Did you guys see Vaughn is now von Miller has
- 34:21Speaker 2: posted on Instagram. It's a a picture of him in
- 34:26Speaker 2: a Cowboys uniform. And I gonna say, Vaughn tweeting out
- 34:32Speaker 2: pictures of himself like a fan would of, like when
- 34:35Speaker 2: you hope you're player in free agency comes to your team,
- 34:39Speaker 2: like I want to see what this looks like. He's
- 34:41Speaker 2: just doing this with everybody.
- 34:42Speaker 4: Now.
- 34:42Speaker 2: I think this means that he's moved on from any
- 34:46Speaker 2: idea that he's going to be in Denver, right, I
- 34:48Speaker 2: mean we talked to him, what was that a month
- 34:51Speaker 2: and a half ago or something like that, and I
- 34:55Speaker 2: mean we asked him about, well, if you were to
- 34:57Speaker 2: come to Denver, like what's your role and he goes, yeah,
- 35:01Speaker 2: that's tricky because I'm gonna play. And it's like, well,
- 35:04Speaker 2: at the time they had two pretty good edge rushers
- 35:06Speaker 2: and now with Jonathan Cooper, who knows and so if
- 35:08Speaker 2: there was any opening for von Miller to come back,
- 35:10Speaker 2: you would think it would be now with the uncertainty
- 35:13Speaker 2: of Jonathan Cooper but still in the market.
- 35:15Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy. Listen, he's from Texas. Might makes sense
- 35:19Speaker 4: to finish up there. Hey, I've got one for you guys.
- 35:22Speaker 4: You know, we don't see hardly any more, no hitters,
- 35:26Speaker 4: but certainly perfect games in baseball. Right, Yeah, but do
- 35:29Speaker 4: you realize in the last four days we've had two
- 35:32Speaker 4: young pitchers pulled by their managers whilst in the midst
- 35:36Speaker 4: of a perfect.
- 35:37Speaker 3: Game late innings?
- 35:38Speaker 2: What's late innings?
- 35:40Speaker 3: Seventh?
- 35:41Speaker 2: Pretty late?
- 35:42Speaker 1: How many pitches thrown? This is what I'm getting at,
- 35:46Speaker 1: And this is what's gonna blow your mind about modern Major.
- 35:48Speaker 4: League base I know, I see the numbers. Hey guy,
- 35:51Speaker 4: they and it's been that way for a while. Pitch
- 35:54Speaker 4: counts kind of dictate everything, right. The two guys Uri
- 35:59Speaker 4: Perez of the Orleans and uh lake Bacher combined a
- 36:06Speaker 4: little bit.
- 36:06Speaker 3: There also Pirates right hander Jerry Jones.
- 36:09Speaker 4: On Wednesday night, he was there six perfect innings and
- 36:12Speaker 4: then he got pulled by Don Kelly. The reason is this,
- 36:17Speaker 4: these guys are twenty three and twenty.
- 36:18Speaker 3: Four years of age.
- 36:20Speaker 4: Okay, these are the numbers that are adding up. One's
- 36:22Speaker 4: twenty three one's twenty four. They each average with their
- 36:25Speaker 4: fastball ninety eight point one and ninety eight point six
- 36:28Speaker 4: miles per hour. Okay, and each has already had Tommy
- 36:34Speaker 4: John surgery. Okay, So now it doesn't matter if you
- 36:39Speaker 4: take a perfect game to the seventh or anything like that.
- 36:42Speaker 1: They are going to yank you. They are not going.
- 36:45Speaker 4: To risk with previous Tommy John surgery letting that guy
- 36:49Speaker 4: stay out there and getting above his pitch count. They
- 36:51Speaker 4: just don't do it anymore. To me that that's a
- 36:53Speaker 4: real bummer. It takes away from the game. But do
- 36:55Speaker 4: you know how many kids nowadays, in their late teens
- 36:58Speaker 4: early twenties are having time Tommy John surgery. It is insane.
- 37:03Speaker 4: I almost think these kids are throwing so hard now
- 37:05Speaker 4: Victor tearing their arms up, and once they're surgically repaired,
- 37:08Speaker 4: they're in better shape.
- 37:08Speaker 1: I almost feel as if it's it's not a matter of.
- 37:12Speaker 5: If, but when you have Tommy John surgery and if
- 37:16Speaker 5: you're gonna get it at some point, just get it over.
- 37:18Speaker 4: And it used to be incredibly rare, which is why
- 37:21Speaker 4: it's named after Tommy John.
- 37:23Speaker 2: Well, I'm trying to look this up because maybe I've
- 37:27Speaker 2: been thinking about this entirely wrong that I thought Tommy
- 37:31Speaker 2: John was kind of like chicken pox, that if you
- 37:34Speaker 2: get it once, there's a very low chance that it
- 37:36Speaker 2: happens again.
- 37:37Speaker 3: Correct because they repair it. So well, that's correct, but it's.
- 37:41Speaker 4: They take a ligament. Well, I guess they can do
- 37:44Speaker 4: it two ways. They can take what they did with
- 37:45Speaker 4: Tommy John. I think they took a dead guy, right,
- 37:47Speaker 4: and they put a dead guy in him. But they
- 37:49Speaker 4: can also take like something out of your leg and
- 37:51Speaker 4: put it in you, put it in your arm.
- 37:54Speaker 2: So, according to the Tommy John database, which is actually
- 37:59Speaker 2: out there, one hundred and sixty two major league pitchers
- 38:02Speaker 2: have undergone a second Tommy John surgery.
- 38:05Speaker 3: Jesus, it's a lot.
- 38:07Speaker 2: And once they do, only around fifty percent of them
- 38:11Speaker 2: pitch again.
- 38:12Speaker 1: Wow, in the majors.
- 38:13Speaker 3: So that's after two. Tommy John's after two.
- 38:17Speaker 2: But one hundred and sixty two doesn't I don't even
- 38:20Speaker 2: Is that a lot or that not a lot? Yeah?
- 38:22Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you if you've got a young stud
- 38:24Speaker 4: though Vickier, the asset is way too valuable to allow
- 38:27Speaker 4: them to try to get a perfect game or a
- 38:29Speaker 4: no hitter promise.
- 38:30Speaker 5: It's not even just pitchers who are getting Tommy John
- 38:32Speaker 5: it's field it's position players and now who are falling
- 38:35Speaker 5: prey to this. So on the ball as hard as
- 38:37Speaker 5: you possibly can across the diamond.
- 38:41Speaker 4: An arm.
- 38:41Speaker 2: Don't you ruin that arm?
- 38:42Speaker 4: Oh?
- 38:43Speaker 5: By the way, reports are out there that the LA
- 38:45Speaker 5: Clippers are going to go all in. Now, these are
- 38:48Speaker 5: just reports on Peyton Watson and make an offer that
- 38:52Speaker 5: will try to drown the Nuggets.
- 38:55Speaker 1: The Nuggets are in a they're in a spot right now.
- 38:58Speaker 5: They're in a spot financially right And if the offers
- 39:02Speaker 5: so imments so high that the Nuggets have no choice
- 39:05Speaker 5: but to balk at bringing back Peyton Watson, then you
- 39:09Speaker 5: could see what they're trying to do here. I don't
- 39:11Speaker 5: know how far that number goes. We'll see because they
- 39:15Speaker 5: have their own issues in LA.
- 39:17Speaker 3: This is like the Leo Carlson thing.
- 39:19Speaker 5: Yes, right, The only difference is you don't get four
- 39:22Speaker 5: first coming back.
- 39:23Speaker 4: That's crut You get nothing yet nothing, But vic don't
- 39:25Speaker 4: they have to match and then figure it out because
- 39:27Speaker 4: he's an asset. Yes, they have to match and figure
- 39:29Speaker 4: it out. And if the Clippers want him, then you
- 39:31Speaker 4: can trade him to the Clippers.
- 39:32Speaker 5: They're in lies the problem with the Nuggets right now
- 39:34Speaker 5: because I thought by now at this juncture, they would
- 39:37Speaker 5: have traded away one of their high price no players
- 39:41Speaker 5: to give them that flexibility.
- 39:43Speaker 1: But they haven't done that.
- 39:44Speaker 3: Now.
- 39:44Speaker 1: I thought that was the guys. Would you agree with me?
- 39:47Speaker 5: I thought going into this offseason, what we would see
- 39:50Speaker 5: out of the Nuggets is take one of those big
- 39:52Speaker 5: salaries they have, move it and allow yourself to be
- 39:56Speaker 5: flexible in this window.
- 39:58Speaker 1: Well, they haven't moved any of those salms, correct, are they?
- 40:04Speaker 2: Are they hanging on to Cam Johnson and guys like that?
- 40:07Speaker 2: Because mark Stein said they have rebuffed trade offers for
- 40:10Speaker 2: Cam Johnson. They've done that. Somebody said that the but
- 40:14Speaker 2: are they doing it because are they nervous that somebody's
- 40:17Speaker 2: gonna make such a high priced move for Peyton Watson
- 40:20Speaker 2: that they just don't want to match it.
- 40:23Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 40:23Speaker 5: And maybe maybe the Nuggets have intel, And this is
- 40:28Speaker 5: my suspicion, maybe the Nuggets know the market well enough
- 40:33Speaker 5: that all these people claiming that they're going to make
- 40:35Speaker 5: offers aren't and they're gonna stand pat with this, you know,
- 40:41Speaker 5: otherwise the offers would already be in I mean, look,
- 40:43Speaker 5: how look how quickly the Lakers moved on Walker Kessler,
- 40:47Speaker 5: right right? We are now approaching mid July, and no
- 40:51Speaker 5: one has made an offer on Peyton Watson, no one.
- 40:55Speaker 5: There's been whispers of it, but no one's done it, right,
- 40:58Speaker 5: So maybe the Nuggets know the market well enough so
- 41:01Speaker 5: to make that run.
- 41:02Speaker 4: What what Mark Stein is saying that it looks like
- 41:05Speaker 4: if the Nuggets are gonna match, it would be a
- 41:07Speaker 4: sign in trade.
- 41:10Speaker 3: They needed to quote.
- 41:11Speaker 4: They would need to assemble the sign and trade to
- 41:12Speaker 4: acquire Watson and overcome Denvers behind the scenes insistence that
- 41:15Speaker 4: will match any offer sheet for Watson.
- 41:17Speaker 2: As for the other letting him walk for free, that's
- 41:20Speaker 2: one thing.
- 41:20Speaker 4: As of Tuesday morning, it was difficult to pinpoint any
- 41:22Speaker 4: other credible contenders. So it looks like the Clippers are
- 41:24Speaker 4: bust for Peyton Watson. And then if you don't want
- 41:27Speaker 4: to keep him on your roster and you don't want
- 41:29Speaker 4: to trade somebody else, then it's going to be a
- 41:31Speaker 4: sign in trade.
- 41:32Speaker 3: But what are you going to get back in return?
- 41:36Speaker 5: All on the question I asked, here's the question I have,
- 41:38Speaker 5: and I know what we can jump into it. How
- 41:40Speaker 5: are the Nuggets going to be able to keep Peyton
- 41:43Speaker 5: Watson and all the other players that they're paying right
- 41:47Speaker 5: now the high price and stay and avoid the repeater.
- 41:49Speaker 3: You're gonna have to trade somebody, Vick.
- 41:51Speaker 2: You have to trade beyond that. They need to sign
- 41:53Speaker 2: like four or.
- 41:54Speaker 5: Five spots open, so I that's.
- 41:58Speaker 2: Included Spencer Jones and maybe Bruce Brown again and stuff
- 42:01Speaker 2: like that. I mean it's crazy. Oh, by the way,
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