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Episode 80 WrestleMania 41 Night 1 Review · Podcast Championship Wrestling

• 0:12
  Speaker 1: Every legendary story has heroes.
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  Speaker 2: And villains.
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  Speaker 3: In this game, it could be hard to tell which
• 0:31
  Speaker 3: is which.
• 0:32
  Speaker 4: I think the fans can expect the unpredictable.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: You think by now you'd know the whole story.
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  Speaker 3: This is just the beginning. All the history.
• 1:00
  Speaker 4: You've done, sucking special, all.
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: The legends, This time right here, it's the realist it's
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  Speaker 1: ever been.
• 1:20
  Speaker 5: Look around, we're everywhere.
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: The growth of professional wrestling.
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  Speaker 5: The institution is stunning.
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  Speaker 6: Whatever you say, Austin, that's the belts. You brought the belts,
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  Speaker 6: the power of WrestleMania.
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  Speaker 7: Magical time for the ww right now, yes, get them
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  Speaker 7: in Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: Vegas is about to find out how real this can get.
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: All are off there. It's gonna get nasty.
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  Speaker 8: And the stakes quite simply can't get any higher.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I like about legendary stories.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes they're true.
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  Speaker 3: This is mine.
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  Speaker 8: Triple threat man, talk about a big fight.
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  Speaker 5: So tonight, who's it gonna be?
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  Speaker 3: This is what's your dame?
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  Speaker 5: For heroes.
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  Speaker 4: Or killains? Oh Gas, no breaks here we go see
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  Speaker 4: him both in our tribal chief the all the tribal chiefly.
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  Speaker 8: It's sacred because of measure. In the main event, I
• 3:00
  Speaker 8: cannot wait wait.
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  Speaker 6: And now w w E presents the Global Entertainment Spectacular WrestleMania.
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  Speaker 9: The question is, oh, you.
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  Speaker 4: like you have never discovered.
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  Speaker 8: Stream the pot a live.
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  Speaker 4: Live. What do you guys want.
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  Speaker 2: To talk about?
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  Speaker 3: A big patty.
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  Speaker 10: And the colored red in the world with a black
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  Speaker 10: and white cat.
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  Speaker 7: You eat a world?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, let's got something.
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  Speaker 5: L there's nothing you see the child?
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  Speaker 4: What's that big of mad?
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  Speaker 8: You got a bigger bad?
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  Speaker 3: What I say?
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  Speaker 7: Whoa why it?
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  Speaker 11: Hey?
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  Speaker 8: You know some back there red co back the one
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  Speaker 8: got down?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, turnlin vall ages.
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of PCW podcast Championship Wrestling.
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  Speaker 2: I am your host, Wayne also known as Semi Dry Chicken,
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  Speaker 2: and we are going to cover WrestleMania post show. We're
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  Speaker 2: gonna touch lightly on the Hall of Fame, We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: touch a little bit on NXT stand Deliver, but we
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: are going to dig into the results of WrestleMania Night one,
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: in Night two and we are going to chat it
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: up about the raw after Mania. Why because it is
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  Speaker 2: way more interesting than what actually happened at WrestleMania. So
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  Speaker 2: with that said, let me bring them on out the
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  Speaker 2: co host.
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  Speaker 12: Rocky O Rockyo. Where far art foul? Rockyo?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I I did see that there were shirts at
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  Speaker 2: the convention center for sale there said finally returned to
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  Speaker 2: Las Vegas, And my favorite comment on that was the
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  Speaker 2: funk he did.
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  Speaker 7: Notable in his absence.
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  Speaker 2: No, yeah, exactly all right. I saved the I saved
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  Speaker 2: the best theme for last Man.
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  Speaker 12: Here we go.
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  Speaker 8: Oh hey, hey, it might have been telling you.
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  Speaker 4: It's just me. Okay, dang, it's just me.
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  Speaker 3: Dang chuck me.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm like, dang this down lot of number knock.
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  Speaker 3: Of Dawn like man I did.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, it's on me now, it's.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, I'm gonna get him all.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna get him all.
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  Speaker 8: I'm jet.
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  Speaker 11: I you.
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  Speaker 4: Dre yo yo, what it do? Pc W crew your
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  Speaker 4: pc W World Heavy Yeat Champion Maine event. Dre Uso
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  Speaker 4: is now on your podcast.
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  Speaker 8: Huh.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, at least once.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he's all about.
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  Speaker 4: Man, I mean, nobody don't have eating.
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  Speaker 7: My intro was it was the raw after somebody had
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  Speaker 7: a sign and said, I just yeaated.
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  Speaker 4: Just yet.
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  Speaker 7: It was I can't remember. It was one one of
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  Speaker 7: the nights wrestleman or it was the raw after I
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  Speaker 7: can't remember which, but somebody on the.
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  Speaker 9: Hardcamp side pretty prominently had a sign and just said
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  Speaker 9: I just yeated.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they always talk about it on commentary, how they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna yeat all over everybody. It's like, oh, yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: was yeating before I got here.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is weird. That is basically a.
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  Speaker 9: Joke, and it gives Michael called the opportunity to prove
• 8:41
  Speaker 9: that he is the most Caucasian human being that has.
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  Speaker 7: Ever lived, exactly Jesus Christ.
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  Speaker 2: But he doesn't deal with it.
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  Speaker 7: But they're like, Michael, you don't look like enough of
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  Speaker 7: a dor Let's try something new.
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they always they always find a way to make
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: Michael Cole look even worse more of a All right,
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: did you guys catch the entire Hall of Fame at all?
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  Speaker 4: I actually did watch that whole damn thing live because
• 9:23
  Speaker 4: for some reason, Yeah, I watched it live, like I
• 9:27
  Speaker 4: was up the entire four and a half fucking hours
• 9:30
  Speaker 4: that Friday because I did not have to well, mostly
• 9:36
  Speaker 4: because one I did not have. It was in the
• 9:38
  Speaker 4: middle of my three day weekend, so I didn't have
• 9:40
  Speaker 4: to work the next day, and I was already up
• 9:43
  Speaker 4: at midnight, so I went to bed and I put
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: it on because I was like, I want to at
• 9:48
  Speaker 4: least see Lex Luger's part, and I did want to
• 9:51
  Speaker 4: see his, And then for some reason I just wound
• 9:54
  Speaker 4: up being into bed up for the next fucking four
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  Speaker 4: and a half hours watching that ship.
• 10:01
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: I saw the clip of Alex Luger standing at the
• 10:05
  Speaker 9: beginning of the speech, and that's.
• 10:08
  Speaker 11: All I saw.
• 10:09
  Speaker 7: And boy, am I glad that's all I saw. I
• 10:13
  Speaker 7: heard trips. He talked longer than any match he ever had.
• 10:19
  Speaker 4: And he's been in an Irish speech was so fucking long, Jesus,
• 10:25
  Speaker 4: it was over an hour.
• 10:29
  Speaker 7: You need to take Tiffany and then beautiful daughters. Yeah,
• 10:33
  Speaker 7: I don't need to hear that for an hour.
• 10:35
  Speaker 4: And it wasn't like everyone think, yeah, I'll say the
• 10:37
  Speaker 4: thing about his is It wasn't like it was an
• 10:40
  Speaker 4: hour from you know, the start of his whole segment. No,
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: literally just his speech from the moment he got on
• 10:47
  Speaker 4: stage and got on the mic. So when he finally
• 10:50
  Speaker 4: shut the hell up and left, it was over an hour.
• 10:54
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: I think I saw that he talked for like an
• 10:56
  Speaker 9: hour and six minutes or something. In his longest match
• 10:58
  Speaker 9: ever was an hour and three minutes.
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: It's funny. Yeah, It's like, who's gonna tell him to like, hey, trips,
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: you gotta you gotta wrap it up. Yeah right, that's
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: like us as like at a business, at like a
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  Speaker 2: meeting at my work, if we're having a plant meeting,
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: my guys, the supervisor just talking forever and ever. It's like,
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm not gonna tell him to fucking wrap
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: it up. But if I say something, you know, we're
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: on the clock, you know. But I yeah, I watched
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: the little promo videos, which I thought was cool. I
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: forget a theme song they played for his promo. It
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: was pretty good though, Uh yeah, he just spent too
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: much time thinking way too many people.
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  Speaker 7: Still.
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  Speaker 2: The highlight of it who ended.
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  Speaker 9: Up inducting the natural disasters because they because they made
• 11:43
  Speaker 9: a big deal about everybody else's uh who was inducting
• 11:47
  Speaker 9: them and didn't say was it just Typhoon's kid?
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: That's why I thought it was. It was like just
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: you know, direct family. That's how I figured it was
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: like Michelle mccool's speech. I almost fell asleep, I guess
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: I I almost felt I was like, oh my god,
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: this is early too. But yeah, after the Hall of Fame,
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: did anybody catch any of n XT Stand and Deliver anyway?
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: I actually caught. I actually caught it. I watched it.
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: It was pretty good.
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  Speaker 13: I would go to the women's championship match, but yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 12:30
  Speaker 13: if there's anything to go back, go back and watch
• 12:32
  Speaker 13: like the Ricky Saints, you know, wrestle ethan Page for
• 12:36
  Speaker 13: the North American title, Hank and Tank what a tag
• 12:41
  Speaker 13: team name Hank and Tank defeated.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, so that that was a pretty good match.
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: Go back and watch that. Uh yeah, the women's Fatal
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: four away for the NXT Championship. You know guys who
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: really enjoyed that match was Booker T. If you may, Booker,
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: Let's see it's.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Booker T m HM.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: And likes, uh Stephanie's finisher pretty pretty pretty much, and we've.
• 13:23
  Speaker 7: Seen it's a cool move and looks great. I don't
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  Speaker 7: know that it warrants that type of turning oneself into
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  Speaker 7: a frog.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: Oh well, how does it warn't? Maybe this one?
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  Speaker 11: Baby, Yeah, that's a little much.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, no, no, Doyle, this this is a little much.
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: Here we go, baby, Yes, yeah, he let that one marinate.
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: I want to let everybody know I did not alter
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: those at all. I was dying because I was like,
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Damn Bookert commentary making me fucking laugh. That's what made
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: I feel like. That's what drew my attention more to
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: the fucking TV. See what he was fucking doing that over.
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: But that's dying.
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: He was doing it over somebody who deserved it, Yeah,
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: opposed to somebody else in the threat. That's the same thing.
• 14:50
  Speaker 7: And he's still less annoying than Pat Maga.
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: The main event for the NXC title with Trick Williams,
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Javon Evans, and oba Uh. This dude, this guy's fucking huge.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: This guy's three pounds. He's a big boy, six foot six.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: So hopefully this man gets built well and we see
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: him on the main roster soon. But he's a big
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: sum bitch.
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Oba femmy. He's got all the main roster
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: star power. He can Yeah, he can go in the ring.
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: He's good on the mic. He clearly has the presence
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: built like a brick shit house.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interest music, like it's just it just it
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: goes well.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: Like, Yeah, he's built me. I kind of don't like
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: the fact that he kind of walks to the beat
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: of it, almost like he's kind of strutting. I kind
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: of wish he would be a little bit more serious
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: about when he walks and just be more you know,
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: stone faced with it. But that's a minor, minor knit, right.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: That's something that like the as a character you can develop,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: I guess. But yeah, straight to the guy.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: That's the one match I did not see on this
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: pl though by that point I left went to go
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: to the gym because I wanted to stick around to
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: at least see the women's match, and every match on
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: that show on that card that I saw cooked like
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: the tag team match was probably the best tag team
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  Speaker 4: match of the entire weekend between NXT and both nights
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: of WrestleMania. That tag title match was a great match.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: The Women's Triple Threat cooked hell every Triple Threat. This
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: weekend cooked. Honestly, the one thing you can say about
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: this weekend. This was the weekend of the Triple Threat matches, well.
• 16:45
  Speaker 7: Multi van matches in general. I mean, the farway for
• 16:48
  Speaker 7: the IC title was pretty good too, yea.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: Even the ladder match for the women's uh North American
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: title was pretty damn good as well.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Right, just getting everybody on that card today, you know,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: or for that payday. H Yeah, all right, let's uh,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: let's get this ball rolling. We got a lot of
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: shit to.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Cover, and.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Let's get right into Night one day. Do you want
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: to you wanna take over for Night one?
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Yep, yep, we can take over Night one within alleged
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: and I stress the word alleged attendance of what did
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: they say, sixty something thousand Night one sixty one? Yeah,
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: I'm seeing reported numbers of like fifty seven thousands.
• 17:40
  Speaker 9: So well, what they're doing is they're counting all the
• 17:44
  Speaker 9: you know, production assistance and the people selling popcorn and
• 17:48
  Speaker 9: probably yeah, and I mean there's gonna be hundreds, if
• 17:51
  Speaker 9: not thousands, of the people at the at the stadium bathrooms.
• 17:57
  Speaker 9: They count if you were if you were there with
• 17:59
  Speaker 9: a pulse counted yet he counted pregnantities as two people.
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: Sixty one thousand people at the at the Allegiance Stadium,
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: fifty seven thousand pay for tickets, so somewhere in the middle.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: But either way, Night one kicked off with Gunter defending
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: his World Heavyweight Championship against main event Jay Usso, which
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: saw suit my surprise, gun through tap the fuck out.
• 18:35
  Speaker 9: Yeah that was I mean, I think we all picked
• 18:37
  Speaker 9: Jay to win, right, I don't know that anybody picked
• 18:42
  Speaker 9: gun through the tap.
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: And just how fast he tap too was kind of
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: crazy to me.
• 18:48
  Speaker 9: I thought they would at least do the you know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 9: he almost gets to the ropes and then Jay Paulson'm
• 18:53
  Speaker 9: back and then he almost gets.
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: To the ropes, you know something.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Yep, that was my one break with the match.
• 19:00
  Speaker 7: As boom, He's tap, you know, seemed very ungunter.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Like, Yeah, that was my one gripe with the match.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: Like overall, I thought it was a really good match.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: I thought it was great storytelling as far as Gunter
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: being dominant, but still couldn't completely dominate j Uso because
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Jay had pretty much switched up his game, even playing
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: a little bit with the audience and the fact that
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: you know, Jay only has four moves. He can't do this,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: and you saw j pulling out all kinds of moves
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: in this match that he normally doesn't do. Yeah, And
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: Glad it didn't didn't turn into a chop versus.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Super chopping superkick. Yeah, because I think I mentioned that.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: You know, whoever bet the over on Jay's superkicks was
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: mad as a motherfucker because he only did two in
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: the whole match. Yeah, Whereas Gunter was kind of more
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: reduced to his usual repertoire of moves where you know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: anytime Jay got some offense, go to hit him with
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: a chop. You know, his typical t Rex dropkick is
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: power chopped.
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: When he was sitting on the top rope and he
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: chopped him and he fell to the floor, that was pretty.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that one was pretty gnarly. But overall, the magic
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: exceeded my expectations. Again, my only gripe with it is
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: that when he put him in the sleep or gun
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: the tap too fast.
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: It wouldn't bother me. If after he hit the what
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: did he hit two or three?
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 20:23
  Speaker 9: Just pinned him there, I would have that would have
• 20:24
  Speaker 9: been a fine. And then I thought, and and a
• 20:28
  Speaker 9: prolonged sequence of him.
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: Uh, you know, because he's not like a submission expert
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: or anything.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Immediately you know, like that, but you know some repertory.
• 20:44
  Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, Like so that's why it's so surprising that
• 20:47
  Speaker 9: he tapped out so quickly.
• 20:48
  Speaker 11: To that.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that would have built that would have
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: built up the finish a little bit more if he'd
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: have really sensed it in and had gone through their
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: struggling and you could.
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: Have their passes out in the sleeper, you know, something.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: Like maybe if you want to protect gun Through, like
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: he passes out. But I would have been okay with
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: gun Through tapping if they'd have drawn it out a
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: little bit more, like you said, going through the struggle,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: try to get to the ropes, and Jay is just
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: so he putting everything he has into it. You know,
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: you could they play up the emotion of it all,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: like Jay has just look on the face like you know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I'm getting you back for what you did to my brother,
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: the way you put my brother's move, feel what it
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: feels like, and he's just wrenching on him until gun
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: Through finally taps. I think that would have really, you know,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: put a nice bow on this match or what was
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: otherwise a really good match, but.
• 21:33
  Speaker 9: You knew we were in trouble when, uh, for the
• 21:37
  Speaker 9: for the weekend, when during the entrance, when there's you know,
• 21:40
  Speaker 9: all the announcers are yeting and whatever, do you see
• 21:42
  Speaker 9: one of the Spanish announcers knocked the other one's headphones off.
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and then when Jay and then when they were
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: introducing Jay, it said challengers with an S.
• 21:56
  Speaker 9: That challenger No, I didn't stand in for a bag
• 22:02
  Speaker 9: Field weekend and boy were waiting right.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Not only was I surprised that like Jay got the win,
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: he got to win submission and the fact that they
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: used Jay and Good to open the show like main event,
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Jay USO is still not main event.
• 22:20
  Speaker 9: I mean yeah, I mean, if you're not gonna put
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: you on last, going on first is often they say
• 22:26
  Speaker 9: the second best bottle of the card.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I never would expect such a huge win for somebody
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: like Jay would be you know, in the opening card.
• 22:37
  Speaker 11: Like, but.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: This is definitely different than what we're used to. This
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: this WrestleMania felt very different. And this is besides last year.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: This is like the full fledged storylines played out like
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: for Triple H. I mean, this is Triple h's you know, Era,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: we're not longer getting vinced stuff. Maybe we're just so
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: used to and catered by what we expect from you know. Oh,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Vince would never allow this. Vince would never allow another
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: wrestler from another company on the biggest, grandest stage of
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: them all.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Never.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm shocked by a lot of results on
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: this card in general, but uh, the way that ended, Yeah,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: very shocked.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I would have preferred for me if
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: it had Maine have been at Night one. But I
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: understand why, given the level of star power that they
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: had obviously in the Triple Threat match. But even then,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: and I mean that match delivered. It is absolutely if
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: they went out and laid a fucking egg. You know,
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: I think there's a there's a legitimate ripe there, like
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: why why not put uh one of one of a
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: couple matches.
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: And that's a lot instead?
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: But uh, yeah, absolutely it did obviously an absence of that, though,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: I probably would have at least made it the penultimate match,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: just so that you know, the just so the the
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: fact that you won the World Rumble and the fact
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: that this is a World Tide match can still carry
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: some weight. I still feel like putting it on at
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: the very beginning to kick offf WRESTLEMANI yes, you get
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: the hype moment of obviously kicking off WrestleMania with jay
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: USO's entrance and the title win, but I still feel
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: like it kind of diminished both the Royal Rumble win
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: and the World Heavyweight Championship the fact that it started WrestleMania.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: I would have made it the second to last match
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: of Night one, but that's neither here nor there. So
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: obviously our champion made event so and I did. I
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: did get a little misty id when Jimmy uh met
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: him in the ring celebrate. That was a beautif football
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: absolutely second match h War Raiders Eric and Ivar defending
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: their World Tag Team Championship against the New Day Goffi
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: and Xavier. Why the fuck this match was on WrestleMania,
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know, because there was nothing about this There
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: was nothing about this match that could not have happened
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: all Raw. It's like we needed a title work, we
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: needed a tag title match, and they decided for this one.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: Kofee and Xavier cheated, got to win. They're the new
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: World Tag Team Champions. Cool, but as a match there
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: was really nothing about this match that said WrestleMania. In
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: my opinion.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Is this would have been cool on just Monday Night Raw.
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: Actually, uh, a lot of production errors. They're in one
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: I can't remember whose entrance, either New Days or the
• 26:06
  Speaker 7: war Raiders.
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: They didn't went to a wide shot and you could
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: see people like, you know how like sometimes in a
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: late football game, like you know, the team the home team,
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: if the home team's driving and they fumble with you know,
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: in the thirty seconds left and the game is essentially over,
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: and you just see the people pouring out like that's
• 26:25
  Speaker 9: what was happening, Like like so many empty seats and
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: people actively walking away from this match.
• 26:32
  Speaker 11: It's just like, whoa, it was a look, we got.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: A great idea to thrown to the wide.
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: Shot of the crowd right then.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: Hell and the second match is the early bathroom break match.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah that's not a good signs not a good sign
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: No, yeah, no, I mean it is just a video
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: game commercial. Really. That's why I was on pay per
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: view because because I keep on the Viking Raiders.
• 26:57
  Speaker 9: The war Raiders, uh look like the guys from that
• 27:01
  Speaker 9: video and they can address them, and they looked like
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: they look like they got they didn't even place in
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: a cosplay contest, Like they looked ridiculous outfits.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah I didn't. I didn't. I thought we were
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: watching How To Train Your Dragon with Yeah.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: It was bad. Yeah, and that's all. That's almost It
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: makes you seem makes you given that that was the
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: case and that's how they looked and all that, it
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: makes you feel like that this was a business decision
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: to put this match on the show compared to especially
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: when you compare it to what the SmackDown Tag Division
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: is doing and how they've been the ones cooking for
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: the last couple of months and how they're about to
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: have a freaking TLC match for their titles. Yeah, why
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: couldn't That wasn't Wrestle Media because some video game company
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: ponied up enough cash, We're gonna shoehorn this little bullshit
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: in here.
• 28:02
  Speaker 7: And there's so much of that, Oh my god.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's definitely.
• 28:06
  Speaker 9: Obviously it's been getting a little worse and a little worse,
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: but this one just seemed like a big isalation, Like
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: so much shit on the mat, not just the one
• 28:15
  Speaker 9: logo in the middle.
• 28:16
  Speaker 7: There was like a dozen of them, and every fucking
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: Turnbuckle had a different logo on it.
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: It's just like Jesus, if there if there's a running
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: theme for the if there's a theme for this WrestleMania
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: or something that's going to be part of this WrestleMania's legacy,
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: I think it's definitely gonna be This is the this
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: is the WrestleMania that that we're Wwe put money above
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: the show. Yes, this is a lot of a lot
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: of aspects of this felt like money decisions versus good
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: of the show decisions, from the ticketing prices to the
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: way they laid out all this extra stuff for the weekend.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: So a lot of it just we're making money more, man,
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: we're setting records more.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: Great, you just gave you just gave us a so
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: so WrestleMania. Like very good, very nice that you are
• 29:14
  Speaker 9: all stuff in your pockets. That's all well and good,
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: you know, but it's like, I don't want to hear
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: about that when you just gave me this dog shit
• 29:22
  Speaker 9: made effect. Yeah, I don't want to hear about how
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: many how many bonuses Triple.
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: H is gonna be able to get this?
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know exactly.
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah, did anyone watch the WrestleMania nine documentary, which I
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: have the recommended, was very like they make a big
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: point about like we wanted to make sure we always
• 29:43
  Speaker 9: had a twenty five dollar ticket, you know, and it
• 29:47
  Speaker 9: was like you couldn't get an obstructed view seat for
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: under two hundred dollars.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah you couldn't.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: You probably couldn't park at that fucking stadium for twenty
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: five dollars.
• 29:56
  Speaker 11: You know. It's just like.
• 29:59
  Speaker 7: It's at a certain point it's gonna get where.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: It weren't like the floor seats for WrestleMania nine like
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: just four hundred something like that. Yeah, the most expensive.
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: I don't think there was a single seat that was
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: over one thousand dollars for the WrestleMania and nine.
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: I don't think there was a seat over five hundred.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: And now you can't even get in the fucking building
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: for less than that.
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's crazy.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Inflation one thing. Sure, growth of the business, sure, I
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: mean the massive you know, growth of the event itself.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Sure, which took place in nineteen ninety three, the price
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: of a ticket was twenty five dollars. Wow, that's just
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: a common Google knowledge, I guess.
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: In the documentary, like the cheapest seats were twenty five dollars,
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: and they made us I forgot who it was. That
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: was somebody I guess logistics or whatever said acting made
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: the comment that they wanted to actively make a point
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: you have twenty five dollars tickets. No, it was it
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: was a point that they wanted to make that show
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: affordable to anyone.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Here's this, I had the screenshot. So if you wanted
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: to sit ringside ringside wrestmating nine two fifty dollars, that's
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: the most expensive ticket.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: That's crazy.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Where we sat like well, you know, like kind of
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: roughly like where we sat like you know, far back
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: and whatever, we would have been fifty bucks to twenty
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: five dollars. Oh my god, Oh my god, that's crazy.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I guess you think twice when you're paying that much
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: money now and then you're getting like The New Day
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: versus the war Raiders.
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: Mm hmm right yeah yeah.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: So moving on. The next match was Jade Cargill versus Naomi,
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: which was a good match. Also the first single, first
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: ever single non title women's match without a gimmick in
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: WrestleMania history. Kind of wild that it took all the
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: way up to forty one, but again we mentioned that
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: in the pre show, but the match itself was a
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: really good match, like Naomi was storyline part aspects of
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: it aside. Naomi was a good opponent for j Cargill
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: to be pitted against that WrestleMania, because she has that
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: veteran experience and Naomi can work with anybody in the ring.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: And she sold her ass off for Jay Cargill and
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: made her look like a million bucks while also not
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: completely diminishing herself, like she got her offense and she
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: showed her repertoire moves and the whole match looked good
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: and Jade hit that gnarly freaking power bomb. She powered
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: her up on her shoulders and then tossed her spun
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: around and thrilled ass. Yeah, yeah, I.
• 33:10
  Speaker 7: Mostly agree with you.
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: If they hadn't had Naomi cheat to win and they
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: had Jade win, which is what they did, I wish
• 33:17
  Speaker 9: it had maybe been a little shorter, a little more
• 33:19
  Speaker 9: Jade dominant.
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: And yeah, that power bomb was sick. And she does
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: the moves well, it's to get in.
• 33:27
  Speaker 9: From one move to the next move, that's her problem.
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: Everything still looks so deliberate, like she like it's not
• 33:34
  Speaker 9: second nature to her.
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: Maybe it never will be.
• 33:37
  Speaker 9: I don't know, but a lot of the really good
• 33:41
  Speaker 9: ones I could said it really good in the ring,
• 33:42
  Speaker 9: just it looks like they're not even thinking about it,
• 33:45
  Speaker 9: they're just doing it. And her it looks like she's
• 33:47
  Speaker 9: like saying, Okay, now I need to move five feet
• 33:51
  Speaker 9: to my left and wait for Naomi to grab my
• 33:56
  Speaker 9: left arm, and you know, like it looks like the
• 33:59
  Speaker 9: wheels are really slowly slow to turn for her. And
• 34:02
  Speaker 9: I hope she gets it, because I mean, nobody looks
• 34:05
  Speaker 9: like her. She looks great, unfortunately plagued by wardrobe map
• 34:10
  Speaker 9: functions throughout.
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: The whole match.
• 34:13
  Speaker 9: But it's just the she has a charisma and everything,
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: but it's just like to put in the air. She
• 34:19
  Speaker 9: does the moves, well, it's just getting from move one
• 34:22
  Speaker 9: to move two to move three.
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: That I think is her problem.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: Still, Like you were just saying, yeah, stringing it together
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: and making it feel like natural, a natural wrestling match
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: as opposed to practice where you're going like this the
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: next moment something like that. With time, Yeah, she.
• 34:39
  Speaker 9: Caught Naomi coming off the top rope twice, but the
• 34:42
  Speaker 9: second time she just she like had the awkwardly. I
• 34:45
  Speaker 9: don't know if she was early or if Naomi was late,
• 34:48
  Speaker 9: or a little bit of both. But she stood there
• 34:51
  Speaker 9: like hunched over for what seemed like forever, waiting for
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: Naomi to come, you know, and it just like just
• 35:00
  Speaker 9: little things like that, and it's just a couple of
• 35:02
  Speaker 9: seconds here and there, really, you know, but it just
• 35:07
  Speaker 9: stands out, you know, especially, you know, especially when you've
• 35:13
  Speaker 9: got all these other matches that people aren't you know,
• 35:18
  Speaker 9: even even in the new day more rader match, like,
• 35:20
  Speaker 9: I didn't think anybody was having to think about what
• 35:22
  Speaker 9: they were doing.
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: They were just doing it. You know.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: That is very true. That is true, very true. But
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: I will say to a certain say, in Jay's defense,
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: She's not the only one that I see that from.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: There are a number of women on the roster where
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: you can see that at points in certain matches where
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: you can see them like going through the step by
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: step process of this. That may just be a limitation.
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: I guess I shouldn't. I shouldn't specifically pick on Jays.
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: She's not the only person that I have this criticism of.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: Sure, you're not wrong, Yeah, I think it's it may
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: just be a limitation of the women's a vision or
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: just some of the talent that's there where you know,
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: it doesn't maybe they don't quite have the same number
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: of years in it like some of the older vets
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: that can pull that stuff off seamlessly, like a Bailey
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: or a Becky or you know, there are few who
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: are who I see that are relatively young. It can
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: seem to do that seamlessly, maybe like Tiffany Stratton's probably
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: one Biaka can do it for her relatively few years
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: of experience.
• 36:32
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: I think Rox and Perez I think can do that.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: But other than that, yeah, I think a lot of them.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: J J does seem to stick out a little bit more.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's because she's in such a prominent feature position.
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that certainly could be a too m h.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: But and also I think it is partially her lack
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: of experience as well. I do hope, like you said,
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: with time, I think she'll get better at that and
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: learn how to thread the thin thread moments to get
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: her together a little bit better.
• 37:06
  Speaker 9: I hope so, because I mean, like you figure, she
• 37:09
  Speaker 9: should she ought to be, or at least based purely
• 37:13
  Speaker 9: on how she looks ought to be in the world,
• 37:16
  Speaker 9: titles picture, right, But I can't picture her having a
• 37:21
  Speaker 9: decent enough match for me to believably think that she
• 37:24
  Speaker 9: could beat it, even EO, you know, even even being
• 37:27
  Speaker 9: as physically more imposing than EO with you know, I
• 37:32
  Speaker 9: wonder if it's just a matter of kind of changing
• 37:34
  Speaker 9: her style a little bit and maybe trying to make
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: her more of a like brawler type. I wonder if
• 37:40
  Speaker 9: that would, you know, kind of limiting the move set
• 37:43
  Speaker 9: doesn't have to be that fancy.
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: Look at Gunter.
• 37:45
  Speaker 9: He's just round and pound and he's you know, he
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: doesn't do anything super crazy.
• 37:52
  Speaker 7: I don't know, I don't know what.
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: The fix is with her that could potentially help. I
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: think a lot of people look at her just and
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: see her physique and automatically assume power game, and that's
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: kind of what they've built her ass so she seemingly
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: has to pull off these power moves all the time.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I think of NAILI was a great
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: choice though, for especially for her first singles match at WrestleMania.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I was kind of hoping for like a bigger entrance,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: kind of hoping for some snow from the ceiling. But
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: if we didn't get none.
• 38:23
  Speaker 7: Of that we got a Jade's entrance is fucking cringey?
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: Was that Jim Cantory from Weather Channel? I thought I
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: heard somebody mention that. I don't know if it really
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: was him or if it was just some random Vegas
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: reporter because I when I was watching, I thought they.
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: What the fuck is?
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I thought they had gone to commercials. So my
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: back was turned to the TV and I'm just hearing
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: somebody talking about whether. I'm like, Okay, this must be
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: a commercial, but alsoden I hear Jade's entrance, A storm
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: is coming, I'm like, wait, what the fuck? And I
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: look back and I see that bullshit that they had.
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, that was supposed to be part of her.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: Oh my god.
• 39:06
  Speaker 7: I'm glad they switched up naomisance.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Isn't it Moose?
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah that was.
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: It wasn't working for a heel?
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: Hell no?
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: Right?
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Still good match for her.
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: I think she.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: I think she did. Alright, uh Doyle, Now that you
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: point out some of those things with the way she wrestles,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: I'm now I'm gonna be looking for it, and it's
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: gonna probably bother me ship out of me. Now, I
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: guess I don't. I don't look at her like that.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Just look at this big powerhouse girl and just has
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: this different style. Maybe it's the style that they had
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: over an a w and she's just not quite used
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: to it here.
• 39:48
  Speaker 9: Whatever it is, like the specific move she did like
• 39:52
  Speaker 9: a tilted world backbreaker in Naomi and just like she's
• 39:57
  Speaker 9: setting up for it, just like way too early, if
• 40:00
  Speaker 9: that makes any sense, Like like she I think she
• 40:04
  Speaker 9: did an Irish whip and waited for but she's sitting
• 40:06
  Speaker 9: there like with her body contorted, waiting for the move
• 40:10
  Speaker 9: instead of like waiting until Naomi is like a step
• 40:13
  Speaker 9: away and then kind of doing it in one fluid motion.
• 40:16
  Speaker 7: I don't know, and I hope I'm describing this.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: Makes sense because it tells you that the move is coming.
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: Like she if she throws her into the rope and
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: then contorts herself like she's waiting to catch and nail me,
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: it looks awkward. Yeah, natural, you're throwing the person into
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: the rope and maybe like a normal wrestler with dow
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: me into the rope, let them come back and then
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: when they're close thing, yeah, grab them and put them
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: into the move so that naturally versus you're sitting there,
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: got to the side, like arm up here, left, arm
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: this way, right, arm down here, exactly this way. She
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: naturally runs into the position and now execute the move. Then,
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: yet it doesn't look nat she did the.
• 40:58
  Speaker 7: Move very well, I'm not.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I hate when people wait for moves and it's too obvious.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: It's a little too much of the sausage making process, right,
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: You know who's done that recently, Austin Theory and Grayson
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: Waller have been doing it with chair shots. They bend
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: over way too early, and they like stand there and
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: wait and wait and wait and then get the chair shot.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: And it's driving me nuts because they do it every
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: fucking time.
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: But yeah, and they hit the chairs a lot, Yeah, exactly.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: That's what happens when you can't crack somebody in the
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: dome no more. Back in the day, you needs to
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: be able to set up a headshot a lot better
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: because all you have to do is just turn your
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: back to the person, turn around, boom headshot. When you
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: when all chair shots have to be on the back,
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you're if somebody's supposed to deliver the
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: chair shot at support and time and say that person
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: who's delivering the shot is late. What are you left
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: to do? Oh my god, I'm struggling to get up.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Hang here, Oh I got hit. Like I think that's
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: the part of it. I think is just a problem
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: back chair shots period. There's only one real There's only
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: two ways you can take him, either hunched over or
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: standing up slightly hunched over. There's no way. It's hard
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: to make that look natural.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Speaking to somebody's not fucking natural. Let's talk about Jacob fat.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: Jacob fa tou.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about the Jacob and the next match.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: L A Knight. Yeah, in the US Championship match, which
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: saw La Knight lose again his United States Championship. That
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: motherfucker can't keep this damn title for ship. They are
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: so committed to keeping him champion, and then like they
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: put the bells on him and it's like they remember,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: oh that's right, this shit didn't work. Get it off
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: the get it off of him?
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean thinking about he's held he's held in
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: multiple times already, and he's only he got it.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: He's a two time champion over Yeah, but he wanted
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: off Logan Paul lost it to shint Skat Knockingmora, won
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: it backt Knocking Moor, and now he's lost it to
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Jacob Plottu.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: He racked up those accolades right now now he's but yeah,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: you're absolutely right. Uh, this man cannot hold onto that
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: United States title. It is the soap that he cannot grasp.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: He keeps strugging and fucking now. You know what though, like, uh,
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I guess if we had to have one of the
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: two titles the mad Car titles swapping hands currently, I
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: think it would be the United States. I like the
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Icy having like, uh, a longer, healthier run, you know,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: after after going through. That's how I see the Icy
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: title having longer runs.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: But anyway, any either belt can have a long run
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: if they just put it on the right person. Like,
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: I don't think Jacob Patsu is gonna be dropping this
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: belt anytime soon. I don't agree, man, I.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Think, yeah, I think we all kind of saw this
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: happen in the squash of Jacob fa To, you know,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: squashing you know, l A Knight here. But I'm happy
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: with the result as much as I like Ella Knight.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: H'm so you know over Jacob fa To, Like this
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: man is going straight to the fucking top. Like, like
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: I said, let this man have a long title run
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: with this, with this United States Championship. Let him bring
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: back the inaugural Open Challenge match. Every week, just see
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: him squashing motherfuckers. That's what I want to see. I
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: want to see him out there running his mouth. Who's next?
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: You know this?
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Every week somebody else comes out and just gets fucking squashed.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Do it, don't care who. You don't need the bloodline involved.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: You don't need Solo there. You don't need you know,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: people keep getting injured anyway from the blood line, but
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: we don't. You don't even need him involved. This is
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: something he can do on his own, on his own.
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: He really speaking of Solo. Jacob I too really fucking
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: stole his lunch. Huh right, Like this was supposed to
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: be what Solo was gonna be.
• 45:09
  Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, but jacob I two is just I mean,
• 45:14
  Speaker 9: this match over delivered, uh in spades.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: I thought.
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: I can't remember enjoying an l A night match as
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: much as I enjoyed this one.
• 45:23
  Speaker 11: Uh.
• 45:23
  Speaker 9: He hit all his jump up try You know, I've
• 45:26
  Speaker 9: off complained about his uh inability to hit those moves
• 45:30
  Speaker 9: where he's jumping up to the top rope, but I
• 45:32
  Speaker 9: think he did it two or three times and nailed
• 45:35
  Speaker 9: it each time.
• 45:36
  Speaker 7: Uh that one, uh moon Salt into the.
• 45:41
  Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I mean they didn't they, as Michaels always say,
• 45:45
  Speaker 9: didn't get all of it.
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: But uh, I think the camera work actually covered it
• 45:49
  Speaker 7: up well enough.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: I was just about to say, yeah, the camera saved
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: that one because I was seeing it from other angles in.
• 45:55
  Speaker 7: And the crowd popped.
• 45:56
  Speaker 9: So, I mean live it must have looked pretty good, right,
• 46:00
  Speaker 9: But uh, yeah, I mean Jacob undeniable.
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: I mean it's kind of it's not in a different
• 46:07
  Speaker 7: way than Jay, but it's just like you have to.
• 46:09
  Speaker 9: You can't not put this title on him at this time,
• 46:12
  Speaker 9: like right now, because it's just undeniable.
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: I don't know how they're gonna keep.
• 46:17
  Speaker 9: Him as a fucking heel if that's what they're gonna do.
• 46:21
  Speaker 7: Uh, it's just the crowd really really wants to cheer
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: for him.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: The thing I don't think. I don't think they're gonna
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: keep him as a heel. He still has unfinished bloodline business.
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: It hasn't been it has been, you know, just touched
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: on briefly in the lead up to WrestleMania obviously dissension
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: between him and Solo, and now with uh Tomatonga injured
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: as well, the only thing that's left is really Solo
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: and Jacob and that's probably might be a good thing
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: because then it can just be them to one on
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: one one and sort out their differences and whatever it is.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: That's how they're gonna get Jacob Fatu turning face is
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: he's eventually just gonna He's gonna be the one to
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: break away from Solo and Solo won't have anybody else
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: to help him beat down Uh Jacob Fasu week on,
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: week weekend and week out. And if they play it right,
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: that can work the Solo's advetage. Maybe that can help
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: build Solo back up as opposed.
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: To huh would you describe him as so ini.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: In a manner of speaking. But yet if he can,
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: if he can sit there and go toe to toe
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: with Jacob by himself and be the one, you know,
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: really giving Jacob a run for the money by himself,
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: that can maybe help Solo look like what he was
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: when he first debuted, back when he was just a
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: silent guy with the thumb and heal and he had
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: that presence about him because that's really what kind of
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: hurts Solo more than anything. He started talking. Yeah, right,
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: when he was just quiet with the hoodie and the
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: thumb and laying motherfuckers down, everybody thought Solo was that dude.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: Everybody thought he was a beast. Then he started talking,
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: and we realized that puberty never kicked in for his
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: vocal cords, and he ain't have the same aura like
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: Jay or Roman or the same mic skills as Jimmy.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: And that's what it kind of fell apart for. But
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: if he can at least go back to being that
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: beast dude in the ring and he's out there, you know,
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: giving Solo that work, maybe even take the title off
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: of one time before Jacob went to back or something
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: like that, that can maybe help rehabilitate Solo a bit.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, pretty fucking right there. Clean with
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: all the movies. I'm watching La nk off the top
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Rope and I'm watching Solo do the the.
• 49:00
  Speaker 11: Moon sow.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: He does, like just clean. It's great. Yeah, you know,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: what a great stage to do it on. Because we've
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: seen Lae Knight two especially fucking up on stuff time
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: after time. Again, We're just like, if you can't do it,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: stop doing it. Well, you're lucky man, you did it here.
• 49:19
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 49:19
  Speaker 9: I don't know when it became such a trend to
• 49:22
  Speaker 9: get a mask made for WrestleMania and come wear it
• 49:26
  Speaker 9: for ten seconds and then take it off at the beginning,
• 49:29
  Speaker 9: but Jacobatus Werewolf mask was pretty fucking cool, apparently, as
• 49:35
  Speaker 9: all of these masks are made by the guy that
• 49:37
  Speaker 9: was doing the Bray Wyatt masks.
• 49:40
  Speaker 7: But I thought that Werewolf mask was kind of It's just.
• 49:42
  Speaker 9: Like, if you're gonna do go, if you're gonna get
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: it made, keep it on a little longer at least,
• 49:46
  Speaker 9: you know, Like they come out with these masks and
• 49:49
  Speaker 9: they wear it for five seconds and they take it
• 49:51
  Speaker 9: off immediately.
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: It's like what.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: I was thinking this. Yeah, I was thinking to.
• 50:00
  Speaker 9: Tom does it, Ronny does It's?
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: Who else?
• 50:05
  Speaker 7: Cod Cody uh fex had a mask on top of
• 50:10
  Speaker 7: his mask.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Especially Cody Cody had like this fucking iron Man type
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: fucking we'll get to that later, fucking guy. Anyway, I
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: wanted to bring up, like, I know I should have
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: brought this up in the beginning, but did you guys
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: know that green Shirt guy got his own fucking entrance yep, no, fuck,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: I'm because I'm rewatching it now and I'm just seeing
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Green Shirt Guy and just like thinking about Hi. I'm like,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: what the fuck, man, how much money do you have
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: to pay get your own fucking entrance? What the hell
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: with Wade whoever.
• 50:45
  Speaker 11: He came out?
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: Why the hell did he get his own entrance? But
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: not Trinidad Flag Guy?
• 50:50
  Speaker 9: Really, well, he may have, He's just not as recognizable,
• 50:55
  Speaker 9: so nobody cared.
• 50:57
  Speaker 7: Did Lad get his own entrance? I didn't know. I
• 50:59
  Speaker 7: don't think I saw Lad.
• 51:03
  Speaker 11: That.
• 51:03
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 51:05
  Speaker 7: I don't think I saw vladim Yeah. I think I
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: saw people with posting pictures with him though, so it
• 51:12
  Speaker 7: must have been there.
• 51:14
  Speaker 9: Green guy has Green Shirt Guy is like a cousin
• 51:17
  Speaker 9: who's like a producer or something.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: I heard rumor that he like a sort of Reddit
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: post that he's related to one of the referees.
• 51:26
  Speaker 7: But okay, there, Yeah, I believe anything every on the internet,
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: So I don't know. Well, yeah, it's usually true.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I want to I want somebody to get an interview
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: with them. I think they'd be cool, Like, how's nobody
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: got their hands on this guy for fucking interview?
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: I'm sure that I'm sure that somebody's got an interview
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: out there if you look hard enough. I just don't
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: think anybody cares enough about green Shirt guy in search.
• 51:52
  Speaker 7: H documentary about Vladimir.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: I just wonder what the fuck green Shirt God does
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: for a living to attend all this shit, like even
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: if if he, even if he's related to somebody in
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: w w E, they're not breaking them off free tickets
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: every damn week, ain't no way, especially not no WrestleMania
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: or nothing. Maybe every once in a while, your your
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: cousin who's the referee, can hit you up with a ticket,
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: maybe in a small town venue or something like that,
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: but front row every week, Nah, he coming out pocket
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: for that, and travel expenses and all that. What could
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: she ask work from home job does he have?
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Anyway?
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: Where we were onto the next match, which was supposed
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: to have been but there ain't my Sterio versus El
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: Greene a medicano, but instead due to a last minute
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: injury legit injury to Ray mysterio apparently towards growing muscle
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: or injured or growing injury or some sort.
• 53:07
  Speaker 7: That's gotta hurt. I don't care where are you're from.
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Ray, myss Stereo was replaced with Ray Phoenix and
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: in this match, which was relatively short but still good.
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: Oh this is so much.
• 53:24
  Speaker 7: This is this is the most fun thing on the
• 53:26
  Speaker 7: whole week.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a it was a great match, showed out.
• 53:32
  Speaker 7: It was kind of devoid of.
• 53:33
  Speaker 9: Fun outside of this, there really wasn't a whole There's
• 53:36
  Speaker 9: you know, there's some goofy backstage segment anything.
• 53:40
  Speaker 7: There was nothing. This is the only fun.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, true, dude, Oh my god, Like on Raw this week,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: the video package of him like like like being Mexican,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: Mexico's like greatest like hero or whatever, like the people
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: just the Ai. What you can do with AI?
• 54:01
  Speaker 11: Now?
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: I was dying the video package that they showed just
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: him like digitally being put in like these famous events
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: and like this crowds like surrounding him like flags and like,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: oh I love it. How about Ray Phoenix? Dude, this
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: guy just recently signed with w w E. Right, this
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: is the third match, third match? Yeah on the rest
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: Mania card. You know, I mean his brother got is it?
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Are they really brothers? Him and Penta? Okay, Okay, so
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know a lot too much about
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: these guys from a w I assume that's where they
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: came from, right.
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: Owner.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, but yeah, yeah, w W is just the
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: last stop.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: Their latest stop. Yeah, I mean before this, they were
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: last n a W and there was a whole saga
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: with them getting out and ray Phoenix was supposed to
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: leave AW around the same time as Pensa and they
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: were both supposed to come to WWE together, but ray
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: Phoenix was injured, so Tony added more time onto his
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: contract and wouldn't let him leave around the same time.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: And it was whole little pettiness and back and forth
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: and YadA YadA, and they eventually finally worked it out,
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: and the second he was out of AW he was
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: on the next thing, smoking the Connecticut.
• 55:28
  Speaker 9: Well, you know, it worked out good, I think because
• 55:30
  Speaker 9: if they had gone at the same time, they would
• 55:33
  Speaker 9: have been a tag team, which would have been fun,
• 55:35
  Speaker 9: don't get me wrong, But for them, I think what
• 55:40
  Speaker 9: they probably want, at least for a little while, is
• 55:42
  Speaker 9: to be singles.
• 55:45
  Speaker 7: I'm sure that they would have turned them into the
• 55:46
  Speaker 7: Lucha Brothers and stuck them into tag rags, which would
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: have been.
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: That is drop. That was probably the original plan, was
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: to bring them into the Luca brothers. But yeah, this
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: did you know, wind up working to both of their benefits.
• 56:00
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and I mean you can that's always there. You
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: can always do that, you know, whenever.
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: And when they do it, it's gonna be a it's
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: gonna be a major thing. It's gonna get a huge pop.
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: They now have this one extra special thing that in
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: their bag they can pull out when they want to. Yeah.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true because you know what, now you got
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: somebody like me who has not seen them on a
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: w so you know, these guys are new to me,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: and the way they're being built separately, you know, I
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: kind of rather enjoy it. I enjoy Yeah, I enjoyed
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: this match, dude. I mean it wasn't just uh, the
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: whole gimmick of Medicano, it was the whole match was
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: really well, like you know, El Grande, he's a fucking
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: great wrestler, And for the spectacular and for Ray Phoenix
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: being put in at the last minute and being able
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: to you know, pull off a pretty damn good match,
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: I was. I honestly, I was like, I kinda like
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: this better than I probably would have gone with Ray Mysterio.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: Oh definitely, yeah, I was.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: I was I was pretty happy with the result.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: I got m h. I think I said in the
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: pre show that, yeah, him and Ray would have had
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: to been some sort of shenanigans. There's something else involved
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: to make it really worthwhile. Yeah, because Ray is pretty
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: much a paint by numbers at this point in his career.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's there, you know, there's a lot of
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: spots in this that I you know, it's just fucking great.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Definitely a different style of wrestling we won't we don't
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: normally see from him. Uh, and you know what this
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: story Oh, I got a note going by my house. Wonderful.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: The storyline isn't over like, it's just I love it.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: How he didn't get unmasked like we all thought he
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: was going to the most obvious right, we thought he was,
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: but he fucking.
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: He didn't get him. Yeah, he actually won over Ray.
• 58:00
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: I did not see that.
• 58:03
  Speaker 14: Coming, right, Like the band hasn't been unmasked. He get
• 58:09
  Speaker 14: you know, he gets the win, and and the continues.
• 58:12
  Speaker 14: I mean it's like, hey, struck strike with the Irons, Like,
• 58:16
  Speaker 14: let's not unmasking me. I still people were still enjoying this,
• 58:18
  Speaker 14: and you know what, like the video package, I got
• 58:21
  Speaker 14: this week on Raw confirms it.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: I still love this gimmick and I went to go
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: for a little bit longer.
• 58:28
  Speaker 7: Like the entrance. His entrance is great with the mariatis.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: From the Gulf of America.
• 58:37
  Speaker 9: Yeah, but then which they which they apparently changed last
• 58:40
  Speaker 9: week and then they tried to and they're like, oh, well,
• 58:43
  Speaker 9: when he was born, it was called the Gulf of Mexico.
• 58:46
  Speaker 11: So that's.
• 58:48
  Speaker 9: McAfee got a laugh out of me, even because they
• 58:51
  Speaker 9: were talking. When they were talking about he said the
• 58:53
  Speaker 9: same tattoo as Chad Gable and he was like, a
• 58:55
  Speaker 9: lot of people have that tattoo. Why just last week
• 58:58
  Speaker 9: I was thinking about getting what I was like, that's
• 59:01
  Speaker 9: the funniest thing.
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: Fan mcaves said, good.
• 59:05
  Speaker 9: Uh I did I did have During the pre show,
• 59:07
  Speaker 9: I pitched an idea where they put he puts the
• 59:10
  Speaker 9: metal in his mask and Ray went.
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: To goes to sixty sixty nine him, WHOA, that's a
• 59:15
  Speaker 7: different match.
• 59:17
  Speaker 9: W have to dark goes to six one nine him
• 59:21
  Speaker 9: and hurts his knee or whatever because of the metal.
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: They pretty much ran that spot. When uh with a
• 59:27
  Speaker 7: kick or whatever and he hurt his foot. I was like,
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: I think that was my I think that's my spot.
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: I think they just changed and it probably was had
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: it been Ray.
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's proud of myself that.
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a definitely a good match, you know, the
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: best of well, they made the best out of what
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: they had to deal with in that situation. So good match,
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: and yeah, we get to see how much longer El
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: Grande Americano, how long the storyline goes for. Moving on
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: to the penultimate match of Night one, we had Can't
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: Fight twenty twenty five between Tiffany Stratton defending her women
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: WW Women's Championship against Charlotte Flair. What you want to
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: talk about, some brutality in this match, and I don't
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: mean that necessarily in a good way. This wasn't necessarily
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: some power bombing, slobbery knocker of just moves this at
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: a third. But Charlotte, as has been talked about online
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: pretty much since this match, she seemed to be working
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: Tiffany stiff as fuck, and it.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 7: Looked like she was sandbagging her a little bit.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I think I commented that like Tiffany Stratton
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: was selling her ass off for Charlotte Flair. But Charlotte
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: was not returned in the favor and every time I.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 7: Sold the shit out of that kind of that natural
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 7: select action off the top rope.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: That kind of botched and it didn't even hit. But
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: like so she got hit by a nuke, right, anything
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: to Tiffany. Tiffany was laid out like she got molly wopped.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: Tiffy was trying to get a little bit of offense there.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 7: Yeah, Michael Cole couldn't even cover with her, like, oh,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 7: I don't know if they got all.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 4: That one right, because she was just like dead anytime
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: Tiffany got Tiffany never seemed to be able to string
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: together more than like two moves of offense before Charlotte
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: shut it down. Yeah, it seemed to be this the
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: whole story of this match.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: Like this was.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: It wasn't that it was a bad match. It just
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: did not leave a good taste in my mouth afterwards.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it was just.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 9: Tiffany was beat up after her hand she had a
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 9: big nod on her foreheads.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 7: I was so unclear what was going on with her teeth,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 7: her mouth was bleeding. She like wrestlers ought to look
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 7: like after a match.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: Actually she she look like she lost. Yeah, and she
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: surprisingly won, but she like Charlotte beat the ship out
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: of her.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it was uh, it was pretty
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: stiff man, and you could tell, uh, you know, just
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: the words that were being exchanged, the looks, the styles
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: vastly different. Like these women are here for a fucking
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: paycheck and they do not like each other. I will
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: say I I really liked uh Tiffy's entrance, she said,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: you know back in NXT, like this is like the
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: dream entrance she wanted, like, uh, the Barbie.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 7: First Hey, yeah, but I get they had to set
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 7: up the boxes and yeah.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I yeah, I liked it. I thought
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: it was pretty cool. And you know, I mean I'm
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: a Charlotte Flair fan, so I you know, she a
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: lot of heat during this fucking match, and I was
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: just I would have been content if Charlotte would have
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: won this match. I know a lot of people don't
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: like that, but I would have been content, you know,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: just another championship title run for her. I was very surprised.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: I definitely thought Charlotte was leaving with it, not just
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: because I'm a fucking mark.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: I just thought I think everybody thought Charlotte was gonna win. Yeah,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: you know what I like to change, but yeah, almost
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 4: it almost makes you wonder if they changed their mind. Yeah,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: it almost makes you wonder, like had was the original
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: plan for Charlotte to win and then they changed their
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: mind either a because fans turned on Charlotte and started
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: booing her. Yeah, it was the original plan for you know,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: Charlotte to have this return babyface run into WrestleMania and
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: then emerge victorious champion. And then because fans turned on
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: her and she turned to heel, they decided to pivot
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: and and let Tiffy go over Or did they decide
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: against Charlotte winning because of how nasty this feud seemingly got.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: I mean it kind of a stretched maybe to think
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: that they would punish somebody the caliber Charlotte Flair like that,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 4: but I kind of can't rule it out given how
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: these feud is played out.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 9: H Well, I mean I'm not I'm I'm Charlotte Flair apologists,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 9: but I mean, last she wasn't in Wrestlingia forty she
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 9: was injured. So but WrestleMania thirty nine, she put Rhea over,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 9: you know, so it's not like, uh, you know, it's
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 9: not like she never puts anybody over.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 7: Does.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: Certainly I'm not and I'm not saying that Charlotte is
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: the type that you know doesn't do that, because like
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: you said, yes, she did very much put Rea Ripley
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: over in thirty nine. But it also it felt like
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: thirty nine.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 11: As a smoother transition, I think, a.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: Much smoother transition, And it felt like Ria at thirty
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: nine was way more over and more primed for that
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: championship than Tiffy was now, even though Tiffy's already the champion.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: Seems like Tiffy's Tiffy's popular. Was she as popular now
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: as Ria was going into thirty nine that I don't
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: necessarily know. It felt like all the momentum was behind
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: Ria going into thirty nine. This one I didn't feel
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: the same. I didn't feel like there was momentum behind
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: Tiffy or she's that you know, on that meteoric rise
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: or anything like that. It's like, she's here, she's popular,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: she's won of the fans over, she's solidly your baby
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: face right now. But I don't know, man, I.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: Just watching this match with like no volume at all.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 7: You can just see the fucking the you that you
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 7: can't hear them calling the spots.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that too, spots, But you can.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 7: You know, if you listen to match with headphones, you
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 7: can hear a lot.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I did. Like my favorite comment I
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: think I mentioned it with Tiffany Stratton, was it's chippy
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: time because they were a chip tooth. Yeah, I could.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: I was trying to look for where it happened. You know,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: it could have been anywhere, because she looks like she
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: got hit in the face a couple of times.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, I don't think it. I don't think
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 4: her teeth got chipped. I think it was some sort
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: of stain or something.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a veneer that may have came off,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you might be right to like, it might
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: have been a makeup smear, yeah.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: Smear or something in a little bit. Maybe just seeing
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: the close up of the of it, it looks like
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: her tooth is still there, but like it's stayed like
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: freaking probably from Charlotte being stiff as hell, but it
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: probably kicked her dead in the fucking mouth. It got
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 4: some black off at the bottom of her boot.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 7: I like, yeah, you know what.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: It could be that it looks like like, Yeah, I
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: thought it might be a veneer that may have fallen
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: out or something. Yeah, I think you're right.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 9: She at the press conference like an hour later, and
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 9: she was fine. Like whatever it was, it was very
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 9: easy to fact or it wasn't much of anything.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's getting some of that shoe leather on.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: There, you know, still doesn't change the visual though. Unfortunately
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: that visual was forever out there of her looking like
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: a street fighter character on the tinue screen.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: She won, though, so she's like, yeah, it may have
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: looked weird or terrible or whateverbody whooped your ass?
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 9: Hey when when Tiffy beats Charlotte, Charlotte raise her hand
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 9: and we didn't get that, but Charlotte did give her
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 9: like the kind of.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 7: Like the nod kind of thing and she was walking away.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 7: I kind of almost nailed that one.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, something tells me this is this feud is not
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: over with yet though, Like, I don't think Charlotte is
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: just gonna move on to the next babyface she doesn't like.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: I still think it's possible that Charlotte may get that title.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: I can see somewhere where there's a rematch or something,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 4: or they play up, they play on the fact that
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: Tiffy looks so beat up afterwards, but managed the sneak
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: out of victory. And who knows, maybe Charlotte plays my
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: games with her and bates her into another match, you know,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: plays on her motions or her ego or something. You know,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: you didn't really win, you know you got lucky. Do
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: you really feel like a champion? Look at you? Look
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: at that picture of you on the screen. Does that
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: look like a champion? And somehow just suckers Tiffany and saying,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: all right, fuck it, I'll give you a rematch. Let's
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 4: do it again. I'll beat you for good this time,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: And then Charlotte kicks her ass and becomes champion, so
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: you may still get your wish Wayne of struggling to
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: make that belt sit on hips that she ain't got.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: The only woman to wear that thong loose. Huh dude,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: I brought that joke up at the party and people
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: were fucking dying.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 14: Uh.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I had like nine people in my fucking
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: house for WrestleMania, and Night one was way more people
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: in the night too. But yeah, I think it was great.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: I think hopefully next year I have just about the
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: same amount. I don't know what you guys, what your
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: WrestleMania set.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 11: Up was like.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: Me in this me in my room watching TV, watching
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: it and then having my computer up chatting and discord.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: I didn't do nothing special this year. I ain't going nowhere,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: none of that. Next year in New Orleans, however, I'm
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: looking to go to New Orleans for WrestleMania. Whether I
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: actually attend the event, that depends on what the fuck
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: WW you want to charge for them damn tickets. Yeah,
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: but if nothing else, I want to be in New
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: Orleans for everything else surrounding WrestleMania.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 7: It's a cool town, I'll tell you that.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: And the fact I've never been to New Orleans before either,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: so that double effect. AnyWho, Moving on to the main
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: event of Night one, triple threat match, Roman Reigns versus
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: Seth Rollins versus CM Punk, who was accompanied by Romans
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: wise Man Paul Hayman. Without it should not be surprising
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: to anyone that this was by far the best match
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: of the night, both in terms of match quality and
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: storytelling and all of.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 9: That everything showmanship. From the moment That's Rollin's music hit,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 9: it cooked. His entrance was awesome. Roman's entrance was I mean,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 9: Roman's entrance was pretty simple. But like that those boards
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 9: with all the with you know, Yokazuna.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: And the family.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 7: That ship was cool.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 9: Uh you know, uh living color called in living color,
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 9: which of course is something different.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 7: That was awesome.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Even the moment of Roman, like looking to the
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: side where normally Paul would be and no one was there. Oh,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: little subtle moments.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 7: Like that, he didn't know what to do with the
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 7: old the falla.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Roman, I mean not Roman, but Seth kind of
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: playing off two people's different entrances with the flamethrower, which
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 4: was previously done by the Rock and then takes off
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: that outfit. It has the all white underneath the light
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: shining on him like he's glowing. You can almost say
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: that was a play on Seawan's theme, but he still
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: find a way to make it his own. It was
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: across the board. Yeah, great interests. And then obviously once
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: the match started, they just started going to fucking town
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: on each other.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: And then we get to the to the climax to
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: the final act. Everybody's laid out. You see Paul, they
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: cut the Paul him in and you're like, okay, that's
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: time for this part of the story. What's about to happen.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: You see Paul Hammon go rabbit chair, head to the ring,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: look at everybody, they would Punk is to his left,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 4: Roman's to his right. He has slides that chair over
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: to see him Punk and everybody's like, oh shit, he
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: does rob and he's going with Punk. He's going with Punk,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 4: gets in the ring, tells Punk lay his ass out
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: and oh yeah, to the nuts on see him Punk
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: dropped his ass. God, Now at that point, did you
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: think that's how it was gonna end? Did you think
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: he was he was going to choose Punk and that
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: would be it?
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 7: I mean, like, oh I had him leaving with Seth.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: From the gap, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it makes
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: so much sense. I mean we talked about how how
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: Punk and Roman are just a little bit higher of
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: a tier, of a level of a superstar than Seth is,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: and set to get to that level he needs Paul Hayman.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: And you know, Seth doesn't need Paul. Roman doesn't need
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Paul right now, Seth could use Paul.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 7: Mm hm.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: You know, I think I was the only one that
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 4: did not. I don't think I picked him rolling with South.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: I think I told him walking out with with nobody.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: I was the only one that had him just abandoning everybody.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: I still had Seth picking up the wind, but not
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: because of Paul Hayman, which obviously after he nut shot it,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: Uh Punk already thought, oh shit, he didn't choose Seth.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: He's going back to Roman is roam in the chair.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: Roman thinks he boy to lay him out, and then
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: Paul nut shots his ass and gives it a little
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: jiggle for extra effect.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 9: You're kind of glossing over what I think is a
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 9: key detail, and is that it pained him to nut
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 9: shot see him Punk.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 4: You know, he was like, you made me, do you know?
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 7: You made me choose?
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: Why did you do this?
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 9: But he took the light and punched it and Roman
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 9: and the balls. The difference is kind of was was
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 9: I thought pretty important to point out like he did.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 9: There was still kind of that twit, that tinge of
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 9: of This is.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 7: Still my quote unquote best friend Phil.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 9: But he enjoyed Remember, fucking Roman laid his ass out, maybe.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 7: More than once.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 9: I might be wrong about that, but he left him,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 9: you know, after wrestlinga forty he left him for dead
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 9: with Solo like he hasn't been the nicest Uh to
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 9: Haymn and he remembers that.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, yeah, that that's that's a very good
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: point to bring up. The Yeah, he did seem pained
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: by the fact that he had to do it, that
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: he did it to Seth, but when he did it
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: to Roman, yeah, it very much. There was vengeance in
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: his eyes when he did it. Like I said, he
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: he he rubbed it in on Roman and then just
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: very calmly handed that chair to Seth unless Seth crack
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: Roman again in the bag for the fortieth time and
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 4: then stop him out for the wins.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the fucking match was fantastic. You were right, Drake.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: Match of the night storytelling is all there. The fucking
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: video package they gave Punk before he came out, I
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: fucking loved it because we got to see Punk at
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: his main event. We got to see him come out
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: with Paul Hammond, and then we got to see a
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: fucking complete shocker. We saw, you know, we we we
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: saw a year removed with actually within the last two years,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: Roman lost everything. He's lost his tribe, he's lost his
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: wise man, he lost everything, you know, and fucking Seth
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: Man just just he's taken it all, you know, He's
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: done this before in a triple threat match at WrestleMania
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: and pennied Roman again. You know where he pinned Roman
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: before he pinned him again. A MANI I thought it
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: was fantastic. I'm so excited because you know, we'll talk
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: about it after, but like where Seth is going with this?
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I mean, as we've all said in the
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 4: previous episode that yes, Seth needed this win more than
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: the others because he's you know how some people say
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: the old saying, you know, somebody's top five and they're
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 4: not number five. Seth Rollins is top five, and he
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: absolutely was number five, behind Cody, behind seeing A, behind Punk,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: behind Roman. Seth Rollins is solid five, and he needed
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 4: something to break out of being number five and hopefully
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: move him further up or at least to where he
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: can be at least on par if not past one
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: of them, if not be a three or two, at
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 4: least be a two A or three B or something
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: of that nature. And this move with Paul Hammon hopefully
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 4: can't be that, which we might as well go ahead
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 4: and talk about. Because Monday they came out Paul Hayman
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 4: and Seth with the acknowledgment of him saying, you know which,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's going if it landed the
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: way they thought it would. But Seth of Paul Hayman
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: trying to say the what undisputed number one guy in WWE,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: Seth freaking Rollins, If you gotta say it all the time,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: it ain't really gonna I don't know, this's rely gonna land.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: But nevertheless, Paul came out, wanted to smoke. Punk got
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 4: his ass dropped. Then Roman came out, he wanted to smoke.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: He got the better of. Seth, laid out Paul Hayman
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: with a superman punch. Wait for the spear caught one
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: of his own by who Broun motherfucking breaker apparently has
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: now sided with Seth Rollins and Paul Hayman, which is
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: obviously very intriguing, and these two could very much go
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: on a dominant run with them too. Some people are
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: already trying to ship another person into it. Let's not
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: do that already. This is still brand new. Let's see
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: what Let's see how this works with them three first,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: before we try to add more people to it. Let
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: this dwelling what we got.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 7: I think you're certainly going leading up to a Seth Braun.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: Versus Roman, and I would think certainly, certainly that that
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: seems to be a direction that they're going. As far
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: as getting back to my point about Rollins moving up,
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: this move can potentially do that as long as Paul
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: Hayman doesn't outshine Seth Rollins. And and I can't rule
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: out that possibility because Paul Hayman is clearly gonna be
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: the main mic guy. Obviously, Seth Rollins can cook on
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: the mic and we'll get his words into but for
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: this to work, it clearly has to be seen as
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: Seth Rollins is the leader of this group and Paul
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: Hayman is subservient to him. Because if this is you know,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: if this is a being something like a Dangerous Alliance
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: Part two or whatever they want to be, then it's
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: clearly gonna be seen as Paul Hayman's thing and Seth
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: Rollins is just his chosen guy. I think Paul.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 9: Hayman's probably gonna end up being more of a mouthpiece
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 9: from brun Breaker and let Seth do his own thing
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 9: in terms of mic work. Anyway, Yeah, it could absolutely
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 9: it is amount I think, uh and none better than
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 9: Paul him in a quest. You know, Seth obviously does
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 9: not need that, So hopefully they can find a balance
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 9: where he's Paul Hyman's maybe doing speaking for Braun Breakup, but.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: Not for Seth. Yeah, and I think that would be
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 4: the right decision to go as far as that. You know,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 4: Paul can maybe set up Seth and then Seth does
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: most of the talking and while also.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 7: You know, they're both kind of ends in the back
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 7: and barks right, and they're.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: Both kind of collectively building up you know, bron Breaker.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: You know, like Seth is acting like a mentor, you know,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: Paul is acting like a coach to him. Neil, they
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: help him get his IC title back at some point
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 4: maybe well yeah, yeah, I mean he he's probably solidly
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: back in the Heill category now, despite the fact that
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 4: he was getting over as fuck as a face. This
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: may clearly put him back in the heel territory.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think ultimately, I mean beyond uh,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 9: you know, the elevation of Seth Rollins is not huge leap,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 9: you know, it's it's yeah, like it's going from fourth
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 9: on the depth chart to second.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 7: You know, bron Breaker is the one who is going
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 7: to get made out of all of this, hopefully anyway,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 7: I assume that's assume that's.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 11: Like the overall main goal or whatever.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 9: You know, Sure, you can turn Seth up a couple
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 9: of clicks, but if you can get bron Breaker into
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 9: a legit threat at the world title, you know, for
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 9: the next decade, I think that's probably the ultimate play here.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the long term goal of it, you know,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: kind of how evolution was with Triple H and Randy
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: Orton and Yatista.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 7: He's Bautista and Randy.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder, I wonder if we're going to get
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: any other people to join this this little stable. I
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: would assume so at least another person, if not.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: To, I don't think. I think it depends. Right now,
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's necessary. I think those two alone
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 4: can handle pretty much anybody on the fucking roster. I
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 4: don't know that there's a necessarily a need for it.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 4: And less.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 7: Well, somebody in a war games cage, and yeah.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: Maybe we get around war games. Maybe by that point
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: there may be a need to have added more members.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: But right now, I think just the two of them
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: and Paul Hayman is enough to carry the storyline forward
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: for at least a few.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: Months atlers who aren't doing stuff we gots.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 4: He just got back. He'll need to be in a
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 4: faction already.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, who knows.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: Some muscle like bron Breaker ain't already muscle.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: Friend. Uh, fucking night one, that's night one.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: I've seen some people try to shop like Austin Theory
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 4: into the group, and I'm like, nah, it would help
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 4: Austin Theory for certain, like, no question about it. It
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 4: would damnse so help him. I just don't think it's necessary,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 4: not yet. A couple of months from now.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 9: Maybe you know, if there's somebody that WrestleMania was gonna
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 9: help Boston Theory, well.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, standing on his help, yeah, standing on his own.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 11: Nah.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: But if he can get linked up with this faction,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: it might. I wouldn't rule it out. But again, it
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: doesn't need to happen until further down the line.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, hell, look what Judgment Day did for Damian
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: Priest and arguably real Ripley help take them to to
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: the next level.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 7: Oh, I love a good stable, don't get me wrong.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: This question is what would they call it? If they
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: call it anything? At first, I thought Dangerous Alliance would
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 4: be a good name for it, But to me, that
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 4: puts to focus a little too much on Paul Hayman,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 4: and I don't think that's where it should be.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 4: But if that's the direction that they want to go
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: with it, that this is the mastermind of Paul Hayman,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: then Dangerous Alliance would be a damn damn good nostalgia kick.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: But we shall see, presumably next week when eventually, presumably
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: all three of these fuckers come out. Any other thoughts
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: on Night one of Wrestlemedia, No, man, I think, uh.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: The uh, the highlights, I guess you wanna. I think
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: the highlights for me, you know. Obviously the shocker of
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: Jay winning the title, Jacob Fatu leaving with the title.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: We had two oosa Is leaving with titles that night,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: Grande Americano. I loved it. I love seeing Chippy Stratton.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: Uh and yeah the main event, dude, Like for night one,
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: it was a good start. I was pretty excited going
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: into Night teen.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 9: Then, speaking of fats, why the hell did Haku come
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 9: out when Jacob Fatu won.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: It's a little weird, like that was weird, right?
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 7: Why not his father or Rakishi.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: Why did come out with j one? You know, it
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 4: would have been nice to see if Kishi come out
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: for JA. Yeah, at some.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 7: Point, get a camera on him.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken, is it isn't Haku like jus
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 4: like adopted father or something, adoptive father or something like that.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 9: His father is sam Fatu, who was like who was
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 9: the Tonga kid? He's Rakishi's brother.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 7: I don't I think.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 9: I don't think Haku was related to I think he's
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 9: like on the other side of the family tree.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 7: It just seemed odd when his father, like, it's not
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 7: like his father. His father is not with us anymore.
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 11: He certainly is.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: I don't know. Yeah, I thought they had some sort
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: of connection.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 9: They do, but it's not like, you know, his father
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 9: and his uncle are available and this is like a
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 9: third cousin twice removed or something.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 4: That could be It could be it. I mean, yeah,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 4: maybe he just got well, maybe they just cool, they
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 4: tight like that.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean cool, yeah, good cool. I'm not I mean,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 7: it's never it's never a bad time to see Hakku.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 7: I'm not gonna play.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like I know, I know Haku is like the
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: father of I don't know blood father or adopted father
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: of Tama Tonga and Tonga Loa. I know for them
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: he is. I don't know. I thought he I could
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 4: be wrong. I thought he had some other connection to
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: Jacob Fasu as well. But well, either way, he jumped
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: that damn rail and you see all it did not
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 4: one motherfucker get between him and Fatu m hm no.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 4: One security person was like, hey man, you m won't
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 4: nobody brave enough to try to get in the way
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: of Haku if you know?
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: You know? All right, guys, let's take a let's take
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: a little break here from night one.
• 1:28:46
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• 1:28:48
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• 1:29:00
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• 1:29:08
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• 1:29:11
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• 1:29:18
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• 1:29:42
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• 1:30:03
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• 1:30:39
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  Speaker 2: Times working out? All right? We are back and we
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: had a little discussion off air, and I think we
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: are going to let this episode marinate, meaning we're going
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: to release this episode of Night one and where we
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 2: discussed a little bit of NXT and a little bit
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: of the Hall of Fame. We're gonna release that and
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: then we're gonna come back and we're gonna drop the
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: second episode but we're also going to talk about the
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: Raw after Mania. We're going to also cover the SmackDown
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: after Mania, which has not happened yet, but when we
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: get to it, it'll be pretty good. I bet I'm
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 2: expecting something with John Cena again. I'm expecting you know what.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: I guess I can't give to ma spoilers, right, But Dre,
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: do you want to plug anything before we go?
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: Nothing in particular, obviously the Instagram dot com, slash PCW
• 1:32:04
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• 1:32:08
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• 1:32:11
  Speaker 4: the match that should have been on the Wrestle Media card,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 4: and that being this TLC tag title match, which I'm
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 4: definitely looking forward to seeing.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Doyle, do you know anything?
• 1:32:25
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• 1:32:28
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• 1:32:33
  Speaker 7: McMichael has died apparently, so rip to him. I fucking
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 7: hate the eighty five Bears.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 9: Yes, I'm still salty about a football game that happened
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 9: forty years ago.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 7: Uh, but I had a friend die of als. It's
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 7: fucking awful. I wouldn't watch that on my worst enemy.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: Uh so rip Mango, Yeah, definitely ripe to Mango. McMichael.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 4: Didn't know much of him as a football player, obviously,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 4: I know he was a Chicago Bear. Most wrestling fans
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 4: will know him from his days as a member of
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 4: the Four Horsemen in the late nineties on w c
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 4: W during the Monday Night Wars, which he was a
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 4: capable wrestler. He was definitely a capable wrestler. And like
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 4: I said, anybody who was familiar for the time of
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: the Monday Night Wars will remember him. Yeah, rest in peace,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: Mango McMichael.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, and we will see you guys next episode. And
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: to play us out to cleanse the palate, please if you.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: Will, there we go, baby.
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 8: Yes, you are the world's dumbest sign up a bitch.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 15: Fact the day in and day out for almost six years,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 15: I improved everybody in the world that I am the
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 15: best on this microphone in that break and given a commentary,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 15: nobody can touch me.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 8: You are not private fast.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 9: Because the street puppet and we want the sum you're.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 4: Yes, talk about your songs, talk about John three sixteen
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: Mobstead three sixteen.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 8: Says I just whipped your ass.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 5: Well, let me tell you something brother.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: F Oh, my.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 5: New Queen.
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 3: Praise to the.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: Tip more year, my true man.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 7: This year, welcome to the Top and Owen Show.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: Lately he just hasn't been Harry.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 8: Who'sy because I know this.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 7: And I'm.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: Oh so.
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 5: Those rotten bastard.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 10: Bye bye.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: It's