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The Chicken Burger, the Egg post & the Reluctant Announcement · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, Indy Clinton's
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  Speaker 1: reluctant plastic surgery update, Sky Wheatley's chicken burger debacle, Lily
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  Speaker 1: Brown and Jet Kenny address that viral pregnancy story, and
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  Speaker 1: why TikTok are convinced that Alex Cooper and Alex Earle
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  Speaker 1: are feuding. But first, our hometown of Adelaide was the
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  Speaker 1: hotspot for high-profile influencers this weekend, Kate. Oh, I kept
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  Speaker 1: seeing every influencer putting up posts like, oh, has anyone
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  Speaker 1: got a good makeup artist in Adelaide and packing for Adelaide?
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, what's going on? Yeah, I didn't realise
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  Speaker 1: that Live Golf would get such a top level of influencers.
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  Speaker 1: I was very impressed with the PR team that was
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  Speaker 1: working with them. It made Adelaide look cool. They had
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  Speaker 1: this incredible luxury house called the Ripper House, which is
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  Speaker 1: where all of the VIPs were rubbing shoulders The AFR
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  Speaker 1: put out an article saying that, oh, the likes of
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  Speaker 1: Chris Hemsworth and Serena Williams would be there. Now, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't make it, but I was very excited to see
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  Speaker 1: people like Indy Clinton, Sofa Dofa. Lucy and Nikki ended
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  Speaker 1: up making it. They did miss their flight, but they
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  Speaker 1: managed to get over here. Yeah, I bet the organizers
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  Speaker 1: freaked out when they saw that Instagram update. Bet Judd
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  Speaker 1: was also there alongside Karl Stefanovic. It looked like that
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  Speaker 1: Ripper house went off. So the house is in Madindi.
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  Speaker 1: It's absolutely insane. I would have loved to be a
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  Speaker 1: fly on the wall at Ripper house and seen the
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  Speaker 1: interaction between the large-scale Aussie influences and some of Adelaide's
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  Speaker 1: lower echelon of influence. It would have been really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if some of the lower influencers were hassling
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  Speaker 1: the top ones for photos or wanting to befriend them
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  Speaker 1: so that they got more engagement. I actually have heard
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  Speaker 1: influencers talk about how they've stumbled across house parties in
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  Speaker 1: the US when they're on holidays. And rather than people
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  Speaker 1: introducing themselves, it's all about like, well, how many followers
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  Speaker 1: do you have? And if you don't have enough, then
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  Speaker 1: you don't get talked to. I'm absolutely spewing because I
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  Speaker 1: used to rent a place that was right across the
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  Speaker 1: road from the Grange Golf Course. I could have done
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  Speaker 1: the best people watching. It was absolutely chaos though when
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  Speaker 1: the event was on last year. All of the streets
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  Speaker 1: were closed and a lot of the houses around us
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  Speaker 1: were being rented out for astronomical amounts of money. Like
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  Speaker 1: it was insane. I just love that there was finally
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  Speaker 1: a high profile influencer adjacent event and it wasn't a debacle.
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  Speaker 2: Like if you think back to- What was it?
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  Speaker 1: Sam Smith.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that was just so embarrassing for Adelaide.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I actually feel like this made Adelaide look
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  Speaker 1: like a really cool, desirable place to go. And it
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  Speaker 1: was recently announced that Live Golf is actually going to
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  Speaker 1: now be moving to North Adelaide. So in the city,
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  Speaker 1: which I think is a really great move because that's
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  Speaker 1: going to get so many more interstate tourists and interstate
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  Speaker 1: tourists discovering the city of Adelaide, which I think has
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  Speaker 1: really changed so much over the past couple of years
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  Speaker 1: and is such an exciting place to go to.
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  Speaker 3: I built this platform of being relatable and being honest
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  Speaker 3: and showing you my real life.
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  Speaker 1: Indie Clinton has reluctantly opened up about her impending plastic
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  Speaker 1: surgery next month. The popular TikToker revealed she's getting rhinoplasty
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  Speaker 1: to resolve an injury she got while surfing five years ago.
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  Speaker 1: This video was really unlike anything I've seen before from
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  Speaker 1: an influencer on the topic. Yeah, normally influencers act as
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  Speaker 1: though they're really excited to share the news and they
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  Speaker 1: tell their followers that they're taking them along the journey
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  Speaker 1: with them. But Indy was the total opposite and it
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  Speaker 1: was really clear just how nervous she was to share
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  Speaker 1: this news. Indy started off by saying it had been
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  Speaker 1: eating away at her and at one point she was
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  Speaker 1: even shaking because she just doesn't want to deal with
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  Speaker 1: the impending judgment from her followers. Why do you think
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  Speaker 1: she's been so reluctant to share about the surgery? It's
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  Speaker 1: because she doesn't want to promote plastic surgery to her followers.
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  Speaker 1: So this is what she said on the matter.
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  Speaker 3: I'm in a really hard position by I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to talk about this. I would rather just do this
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  Speaker 3: and hide it because I don't want to promote this
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  Speaker 3: and I don't want to sound like I'm promoting this
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  Speaker 3: because I'm doing this for myself. I'm in a position
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  Speaker 3: where I have millions and millions of followers. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: not trying to lie and hide something, but I'm not
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  Speaker 3: trying to talk about it to monetize and promote, if
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It was really interesting to hear the thought process Indy
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  Speaker 1: went through to make the decision to share this news
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  Speaker 1: with her audience. She was just so honest and she
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  Speaker 1: even said that she had considered pre-recording content to hide
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  Speaker 1: the fact she was having surgery, but she decided against
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  Speaker 1: that because she didn't want to lie and she said
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  Speaker 1: it went against what her channel was actually built on. Well,
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  Speaker 1: with Indy, her whole channel is about being relatable, even
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  Speaker 1: though she is this incredibly attractive, fit, young mum who
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  Speaker 1: lives in this gorgeous house right on the waterfront. And
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  Speaker 1: Indy has this way of making you feel like she's
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  Speaker 1: one of you and she's chaotic and she's messy and
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  Speaker 1: she's got kids bomber on all of her clothes. So
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  Speaker 1: I totally understand her not wanting to share about something
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  Speaker 1: that perhaps a lot of moms who follow her couldn't
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  Speaker 1: afford or maybe it's not top of their priority list.
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  Speaker 1: I also really like the fact that she said she
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  Speaker 1: doesn't want to appear to be promoting plastic surgery because
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  Speaker 1: I know there's always a bit of a debate about it,
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  Speaker 1: whether people should just be honest and transparent. or whether
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  Speaker 1: that transparency is promoting more young people to think that
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  Speaker 1: it's normal and everyone should be going and getting plastic surgery.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, it's an
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  Speaker 1: individual choice, but it is good that she's thinking about
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  Speaker 1: the impact that she does have on her audience. And
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  Speaker 1: it's actually not the first time she has undergone plastic
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  Speaker 1: surgery since having such a large following. So Last year,
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  Speaker 1: Indie announced that she was taking time off social media
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  Speaker 1: for a well-deserved break. And Indie eventually opened up that
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  Speaker 1: she had gotten a breast augmentation during her time offline,
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  Speaker 1: but didn't want to be seen to be promoting it.
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  Speaker 1: And it seems like she has learned from that experience
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  Speaker 1: and is now wanting to be upfront with her followers
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  Speaker 1: this time around. Yeah, because I think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people like this gotcha moment where they're like, oh my God,
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  Speaker 1: like it creates even more of a buzz. where you've
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  Speaker 1: got the before and after photos.
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  Speaker 2: People trying to see clues. Like actually, I think from
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  Speaker 2: that angle, she looks different.
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  Speaker 1: After there being so much speculation around her breast implants,
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  Speaker 1: she probably thought it was important for her to sit
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  Speaker 1: down with her audience and explain why she's getting a
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  Speaker 1: nose job. Because I mean, as she said, she's had
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  Speaker 1: this surfing accident. She pointed out what she wasn't happy with.
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  Speaker 1: Not that she owes anyone an explanation. Well, that actually
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  Speaker 1: made me feel really sorry for her because it did
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  Speaker 1: seem like she was trying to justify her decision to
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  Speaker 1: her audience. Because She really did go in depth. She
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  Speaker 1: even showed a photo of her nose after the accident happened.
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  Speaker 1: And it's really no one's business. But again, as she said,
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  Speaker 1: it's a little bit hard to hide her face online.
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  Speaker 1: Some people get so up in arms about influencers or
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  Speaker 1: celebrities undergoing all this plastic surgery. But most of the time,
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  Speaker 1: the people who are up in arms are those who
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  Speaker 1: have trolled the influencers over their appearance and said, why
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  Speaker 1: don't you do this? Or they should do this. And
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  Speaker 1: then when they actually go and do something about it,
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  Speaker 1: they also have a problem with it. Yeah, they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's so disappointing that you would go and do that
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  Speaker 1: even though I've trolled you all about it. Now, it
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  Speaker 1: will be very interesting to see if Indy shares the
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  Speaker 1: recovery process because she said that she wasn't sure if
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  Speaker 1: she was going to because, again, she doesn't want to
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  Speaker 1: be seen to be monetizing the content.
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  Speaker 2: But then again, her whole life is sharing her life
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  Speaker 2: and her reality.
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  Speaker 1: It's clear that she has agonized over whether to put
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  Speaker 1: this video out or not because her husband, Ben, wrote underneath,
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  Speaker 1: well said, baby, so proud of you. And Indy replied saying,
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  Speaker 1: I was waiting on your text back if I should post.
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  Speaker 1: A weight lifted off my shoulders, you know. I really
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  Speaker 1: liked seeing this interaction because it really humanized the whole situation.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's how Indy remains relatable because she
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  Speaker 1: does really wear her heart on her sleeve. And while
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  Speaker 1: her lifestyle may not be as relatable as it once was,
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  Speaker 1: she really does show her insecurities and just tackles it
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  Speaker 1: head first, which a lot of influencers don't do. Now,
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  Speaker 1: at the time of the recording, the video has over
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  Speaker 1: 1,000 comments and over 600,000 views. As expected, people were
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  Speaker 1: weighing in and saying, I'm so disappointed in you. And
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  Speaker 1: then there were a mix of people saying, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you don't even have to justify this to us.
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  Speaker 4: I'm naming and shaming for the first time in my
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  Speaker 4: life right now, because that is just, I feel really disrespected.
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  Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley has teed off at a local fish and
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  Speaker 1: chip shop after she received a chicken burger, which looked
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  Speaker 1: nothing like the photo. In the seven-minute video, the Gold
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  Speaker 1: Coast influencer complained about the store's appalling customer service and
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  Speaker 1: said it's the first time she's been driven to name
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  Speaker 1: and shame a small business. Soph, it was almost comical
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  Speaker 1: how different the burger looked from the photo on the
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  Speaker 1: Uber Eats app. Look, on this podcast, I know we're
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  Speaker 1: not generally fans of influencers naming and shaming small businesses,
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  Speaker 1: but I have never... seen anything quite like this in
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  Speaker 1: my life. This burger looked absolutely rank.
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  Speaker 2: What are you in year eight? I haven't heard the
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  Speaker 2: word rank. What are you going to say? It's festy
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  Speaker 2: as well?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm bringing it back. So in the Uber Eats photo,
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  Speaker 1: it showed a burger absolutely bursting with lettuce, tomato, it
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  Speaker 1: had aioli and a very large juicy chicken breast coming
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  Speaker 1: out of the bun. Yet the burger that arrived on
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  Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley's doorstep was laughable. The pieces of chicken were
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  Speaker 1: absolutely minuscule and inside the burger was a dirty great
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  Speaker 1: big chunk of tomato that still had like the core
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  Speaker 1: on it, you know, the green bit of the tomato.
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  Speaker 1: It was disgusting. I think the end of the tomato
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  Speaker 1: would have been passable if all the other elements hadn't
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  Speaker 1: been so shit. Well, it was almost like there was
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  Speaker 1: more tomato than anything else because the chicken was so small.
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  Speaker 1: We will upload a photo on our Instagram stories just
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  Speaker 1: to give it justice and so you can check it out. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Skye shared a photo to her 658,000 followers yesterday showing
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  Speaker 1: what she ordered versus what turned up and wrote, this
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  Speaker 1: is what came out. I'm absolutely raging. Like, sorry, I'm
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  Speaker 1: so happy I can't afford to eat. And I know
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  Speaker 1: not everyone has the luxury of ordering takeout, but what
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  Speaker 1: an absolute fucking piss take. To add insult to injury,
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  Speaker 1: the burger costs $ 14. 30 and the meal in total for
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  Speaker 1: the family of four was $ 80, which is hefty for.
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  Speaker 2: Fish and chips, but everything is so damn expensive at
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  Speaker 2: the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Now Sky and her baby daddy were absolutely bewildered by
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  Speaker 1: the presentation that they ended up ringing up the fish
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  Speaker 1: and chip shop and asking for a refund. And this
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  Speaker 1: is where they encountered what Sky said was appalling customer service.
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  Speaker 4: So we call the fish and chip shop and we
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  Speaker 4: let them know our feedback and whatever. And he hangs
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  Speaker 4: up on us.
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  Speaker 1: And turns the phone off.
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  Speaker 4: You best believe I'm going to try to keep calling.
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  Speaker 5: I want to get in touch with the owner.
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  Speaker 4: Because Wait, sorry, let me post this again. I don't
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  Speaker 4: even care if I'm being B-I-T-C-H-Y right now because, like,
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  Speaker 4: I've never seen something like that ever in my life.
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  Speaker 4: The fish was wet. I'm sure they just grabbed it
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  Speaker 4: out of the fish tank and slapped it on. I
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  Speaker 4: was so hungry babe I haven't eaten since lunch this
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  Speaker 4: is not it's not the burger that's the problem and
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  Speaker 4: the presentation and how disgustingly appalling the food was it's
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  Speaker 4: the customer service that is actually enraging my soul like
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  Speaker 4: to hang up on someone who's trying to give your
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  Speaker 4: business feedback we weren't even being rude we just said
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  Speaker 4: like hey Like I ate the fish. I'm not asking
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  Speaker 4: for a refund on the stanky fishy fish, but the burger, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Like, I don't want to pay 15.
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  Speaker 4: How is it 18?
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  Speaker 1: How is that $ 80? I wish there was a recording
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  Speaker 1: of this phone call because I feel like it would
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  Speaker 1: have been so funny to listen to. I'm team Sky
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  Speaker 1: here because I feel like it's absolutely disgusting to hang
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  Speaker 1: up on a customer when they have a legitimate complaint
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  Speaker 1: like this. The least the worker could have done is
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  Speaker 1: actually apologise and offer some sort of refund for the
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  Speaker 1: burger or the whole meal because it looked inedible. Why
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  Speaker 1: am I having flashbacks to your story you shared on
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  Speaker 1: Friday's podcast about you going through the HJ's drive-through and
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  Speaker 1: someone complaining?
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  Speaker 3: Well.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they had a complaint like this.
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  Speaker 1: They took their complaint a little bit too far. They
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  Speaker 1: got a bit loud. But I just can't believe that
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  Speaker 1: a store would hang up on a customer like this
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  Speaker 1: for a legitimate complaint because a lot of the time
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  Speaker 1: people do ring up like yes, to have a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a go, but also so that the business can
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  Speaker 1: actually improve for next time. I mean, clearly they didn't
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  Speaker 1: know who they were dealing with because if they had
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  Speaker 1: known it was Sky Wheatley who has so many followers
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  Speaker 1: and she can go rogue on her social media channels,
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  Speaker 1: they would have absolutely sent her another burger rather than
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  Speaker 1: now having their local business named and changed. I don't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily think that influencers should be given preferential treatment and
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  Speaker 1: people have to roll out the red carpet for them.
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  Speaker 1: I think that all customers should be given the same
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  Speaker 1: level of respect, but gee, this fish and chip shop
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  Speaker 1: must be kicking themselves because they really could have avoided
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  Speaker 1: all of this bad PR by just giving her a
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  Speaker 1: refund and then re-delivering her a nicer meal. It's not
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  Speaker 1: that difficult.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's really a missed opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Skye said several times that she is aware
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  Speaker 1: that she's very privileged to be in a position.
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  Speaker 2: To order takeaway and that it wasn't about the money.
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  Speaker 1: It's just how she was treated by the staff. And
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  Speaker 1: that's what happens when things escalate over the phone. They
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  Speaker 1: clearly didn't realize who they were dealing with. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: But in saying that, I mean, our dad, he recently
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  Speaker 1: had a run in with a wine delivery company. And yes,
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have any followers on social media, but they
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  Speaker 1: treated him so badly that he's told everyone he's met,
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  Speaker 1: don't buy anything from these people. Like, You can't treat
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  Speaker 1: people badly when they've purchased something from your business. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: even with regular everyday people, bad word of mouth spreads.
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  Speaker 1: I do think that Sky handled this situation quite well
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  Speaker 1: because it can be contentious when influencers name and shame
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  Speaker 1: a business. And we've seen when that goes very badly
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  Speaker 1: for influencers like Jade Tunchi. And I think she was
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  Speaker 1: very aware that she didn't want to come across as
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  Speaker 1: a brat or entitled. And she joked that she was
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: waiting for the Daily Mail to print a headline saying,
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: Sky Weekly cries over Uber Eats order. And I like
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: the way that she prefaced that growing up, she had
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  Speaker 1: a few of these sorts of jobs working at Kohl's
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  Speaker 1: and Easy DVD and McDonald's. And she said she was
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  Speaker 1: told from the get-go that the customer was always right
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  Speaker 1: and customer service was so important. Here's more of what
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  Speaker 1: she said.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, I'm probably going to get hate for this, but
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  Speaker 4: I don't care. If my business sent out a burger
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  Speaker 4: that looked like that... I would be like, do you
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  Speaker 4: want roses to your front door? What can I do
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  Speaker 4: to help? Not hang up on someone.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Skye isn't always known for handling these situations the best.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I want to give her props because
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was quite clever that after her rant,
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  Speaker 1: she then recommended a great fish and chip shop on
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  Speaker 1: the Gold Coast for her followers to go to instead
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  Speaker 1: and said how fantastic they were. and that she loves
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  Speaker 1: supporting that small business. Yeah, I think that was a
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  Speaker 1: good way to wrap it up. Now, we have chosen
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  Speaker 1: not to name the store, but I did go have
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  Speaker 1: a sneaky look at their reviews. And I think it's
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  Speaker 1: important to point out the Sky's negative review isn't the
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  Speaker 1: only one. So their reviews were littered with one stars
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  Speaker 1: and many customers labeled it the worst fish and chips
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  Speaker 1: they've ever had. Does this change things for you? Because
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  Speaker 1: I am an absolute stickler looking at reviews whenever I
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  Speaker 1: order anything, be it products or food. Well, when you've
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  Speaker 1: got two hungry kids on a Thursday night and you
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  Speaker 1: just want takeaway, you probably don't have all of the
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  Speaker 1: time in the world to go through the reviews because
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  Speaker 1: they can be pretty mixed. And it's pretty hard to
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  Speaker 1: mess up a chicken burger. Like you'd think that's pretty
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: simple for them to get right. Come spend Valentine's Day
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: with me flying to New Zealand. OG influencer Lily Brown
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: and her Ironman boyfriend Jet Kenny have been forced to
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  Speaker 1: address a viral pregnancy story that took on a life
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: of its own.
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  Speaker 2: Soph, how did this all unfold?
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  Speaker 1: Well, on Wednesday, Jet posted a photo dump from the
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  Speaker 1: week and this year he has committed himself to doing
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: weekly photo dumps.
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  Speaker 2: Such a big commitment.
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  Speaker 1: It is. Now he captioned the post, week six dump,
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: And then put in brackets, swipe to last for a surprise.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: Does anyone else hate it when influencers refer to it
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: so boldly as a dump? Yeah, it feels like it
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: assaults your senses in a bit, especially when they add
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: the poo emoji. I mean, you know, the technical term
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: is carousel, which you sound like a bit of a
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: wank if you like weekly carousel.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: You could say weekly photo dump.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, the caption's terrible anyway, but just I just
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: hate the word dump used in there. So you think
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: photo dump sounds better than just dump? Yes, I do.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Because dump makes me think of the toilet.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Well, this photo dump in question, it contained all the
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: normal sort of stuff. It had cute photos of the couple,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: had Jet with his nephews and a couple of selfies
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: until it came to the last slide, which was a
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: very strange animated video showing a flying eagle dropping an egg.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Then out of the egg popped a photo of Lily Brown.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Like it was All very, very bizarre. Isn't this just
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: a typical boy thing? They don't really take social media
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: that seriously and they post like odd things that might
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: be an in-joke and then suddenly this just gets a
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: life of its own and the media pick up on it. Yeah, well,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: because followers took this as being a pregnancy announcement and
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: they immediately started congratulating the couple. So one follower wrote,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: congratulations to you both, amazing news, whilst another said, oh
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: my goodness, congratulations, such beautiful news. And this led to
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: a major media outlet jumping the gun and publishing an
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: article announcing the couple's exciting pregnancy news. How mortifying for
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Lily Brown. She's someone that's grown up on social media.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: Even if babies aren't on her agenda at the moment,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I think all of us have a way in the
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: back of our mind that we might think we want
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: to announce our engagement or our pregnancy.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure her.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Animated as an egg was not the way that she.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: Wanted to do it.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. That's why I knew that it
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: was bullshit from the start. Knowing Lily Brown, she would never,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: ever announce her pregnancy news this way. I'm sure there
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: would be a very curated photo shoot. I mean, they're
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: a very attractive couple. So to me, this clearly wasn't
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: a pregnancy announcement. And the reason that this seemed to
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: catch on so much is because there have been ongoing
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: pregnancy rumors about Lily Brown for several months now. And
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I think it's because She previously spoke on her podcast
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: about how she and Jet really want to have kids
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: and they're close to their nieces and nephews. So now
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: it seems like any time Lily is at an event
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: like M. Davies Hens, it's like, oh, my gosh, she
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't have an alcoholic drink in her hand. Like people
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: are trying to piece together these little clues. I feel
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: for Lily Brown because it would be awful people speculating
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: all the time that you were pregnant, particularly because we
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: This is even something that she wants. or that she's
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: trying for.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: It's none of our business whatsoever. So it would be
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: really hard to come out and be like, hang on guys,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: call your Jets. This is not actually true. And inadvertently,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: it would put a lot of pressure on them as
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: a couple. Jet took to his Instagram story saying, I
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: didn't think I'd have to come onto Instagram at 6.15am
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: to address the fact that people think that we're pregnant.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: From an eagle dropping an egg out of its bum
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: and then a photo of Lily emerges. But we're not pregnant.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: He then called Lily over and turned the camera on
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: her and she shouted, not pregnant, not pregnant for the
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: fucking 15,000th time. She added, how on earth is me
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: hatching out of an eagle's egg a pregnancy announcement? Lily
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: just has a boyfriend who makes funny videos of her
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: hatching out of an eagle's egg. And apparently that's what
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: the internet is clutching at as a pregnancy announcement. Look,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: it is all very laughable. But to be fair, the
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: caption did reference a surprise at the end. And you
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: know what the internet's like. Everyone is like, this must
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: be an Easter egg.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Or a clue.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: So if people are trying to manifest her being pregnant
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: for some reason... you know, it just seems like people
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: have got excited and run.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Away with it.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the top clue for people should have
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: been that none of Lily and Jet's friends and family
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: commented on the post and Lily shared nothing about it.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I think that that should have put it to bed
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: for everyone. I hope if they ever do choose to
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: have a baby together and they make a pregnancy announcement
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: that they poke fun at that somehow. Yeah.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Was there any explanation as to why that video was
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: shared or what it was about or are we.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Still left guessing? I mean, I think that's probably just
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: his sense of humor. He probably just created it and
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: was bored and thought, oh, this is funny. I think
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: we need to see more of that from him. Well,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: he's He's doing weekly photo dumps, everyone. So maybe there's
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: going to be some more content in there.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I might have to follow him. I know Lily Brown
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: has blocked us. Maybe he has too. I'm not sure.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: No, I can still see his stuff.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Okay. Good morning.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: My hands are orange. My heart is full.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Going to the offices today to record a podcast.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: It's Friday.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: TikTok is convinced Alex Cooper and Alex Earle are secretly
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: feuding with Before we get into it, Kate, can you
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: give us some background on each of the Alex's? Well,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Alex Cooper is arguably the most successful woman in podcasting.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: She is the 30-year-old co-creator and host of Call Her Daddy.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And in 2021, she signed a three-year exclusive deal with
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Spotify worth $ 60 million. Now, once that Spotify deal expired,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Alex set up her own podcasting network called The Unwell Network.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: And when she announced the news, she revealed that she
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: had signed Alex Earle to her network. As for Alex L,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: it's very confusing both being Alex's, but she has been
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: labelled TikTok's it girl. She's also Alex with an I.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Not that that helps, probably for an audio platform.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Well, she's 24 years old and she found fame by
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: sharing Get Ready With Me videos while she was studying
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: at the University of Miami. And Alex became one of
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: the fastest growing creators on TikTok and currently has 7
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: million followers on the platform, as well as 4 million
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: on Instagram. Now, on that podcasting deal, when it was
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: announced back in September 2023, Some of Alex Earle's fans
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: voiced that they didn't think it was the best deal
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: for her. Because Alex Earle actually has nearly double the
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: amount of followers Alex Cooper has. So Earle has a
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: collective following of 11 million, while Cooper has just under
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: 6 million. So a lot of people were saying, well,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: there's clearly a lot of crossover of both of their audiences.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: So it's not actually that big of a coup for
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Alex Earle to have been signed by Alex Cooper's network.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: especially when presumably Alex Cooper is taking a big portion
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: of Alex Earle's podcast revenue. Yeah, but that being said,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: TikTok followers are very different to podcast followers. So Alex
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Cooper has one of the biggest podcasts in the world.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: She has an inbuilt audience who are already sitting there
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: ready to consume content. It is more difficult to take
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: a TikTok audience over a to podcasting. I don't know
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: about that because when influencers who have a big following
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: launch a podcast, they just promote it on their TikTok.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Not always because I think that some people are happy
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: to watch a 30 second video of someone getting ready,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: but they don't necessarily want to hear 30 minutes of
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: what they have to say. But that's for people who
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: don't have a public profile and need a leg up.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: So for instance, a lot of people probably don't remember,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: but the She's on the Money podcast that was originally
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: produced by Shameless Media. So back in the day, I
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: remember Shameless were like, oh, we've been working on this
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: other podcast and they really promoted it in their own feed.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: And that was Victoria Devine's podcast, She's On The Money. Now,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Victoria Devine was the brains behind the podcast and she
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: produced it and came up with the idea herself. And
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: she was a very successful business person, but she didn't
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: really have much of a social media profile. Yeah.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: And she didn't have that audience.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: So a lot of the shameless listeners went over to
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Victoria Devine's podcast and it's obviously extremely successful now. So
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: while you could say, oh, well, Alex Cooper really has
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: bolstered Alex Earle's podcast, I argue that she would have
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: had a similar success if she just promoted it on
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: her own channels. I don't think that Alex Earle joined
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Alex Cooper's network for exposure and for an inbuilt audience though.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I think she joined the network because she needed help
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: with producing her podcast. getting ideas, editing, like everything else
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: that the network offers, maybe help with podcast ads as well.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: And that is a good point, but it's clear something
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: has happened between the pair and things have gone south because-
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: While neither party have commented on the rumored feud, there
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: are a few telltale signs that something is going on.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: So a big clue took place last week when Alex
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Earl didn't attend the Unwell Super Bowl party. And this
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: was despite her being in town for the game. And
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: apparently it's not the first Unwell Network publicity event that
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: she's missed either. So fans have noticed that she hasn't
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: been in attendance for a while now. Another sign is
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: that the Unwell Network socials have reduced how much they
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: promote her. So you She used to be the poster
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: girl of the network, but that has changed. So Alex
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Cooper has been spruiking influencer Hayley Batchelder a lot recently.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: It also seems like the Alex's have taken opposite sides
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: in another very public podcasting feud. So It probably sounds
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: a little bit familiar, but two podcasters who were signed
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: with Barstool are also having a messy friendship breakdown. So
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the podcasters in question are Grace O'Malley and Brianna Chickenfry.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Come on, Chickenfry is not her real last name, is it?
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I have to be honest, I was not familiar with
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: them and I had to double check. And no, it
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: isn't her real last name.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: It is her stage name.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I suppose.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: It's very appropriate. Another sort of chicken burger slash chicken
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: fry reference here.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Well, these two were best friends since high school and
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: they've had this big public bust up.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: They're no longer doing the podcast together.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: And Alex Cooper has had Brianna on her show while
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Alex Earl has had Grace on hers. Well, the real
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: smoking gun for me was when Alex Earl did an
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: interview with her dad, TJ, on a podcast in early December. Now,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: TJ manages Alex and her sister. And during the episode,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Alex said that her dad is good at having hard
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: conversations with people, especially when it comes to when people
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: don't realize Alex's full potential of what she needs to
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: be doing. TJ then also went into detail about a
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: recent incident where he had to take care of some
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: drama for Alex while keeping her out of it. While
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: he initially called it a business situation, he alluded that
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: there was more to it by saying it was also
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: something else. He then went on to say that at
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: the time he wasn't happy about it and still isn't
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: happy about it. And as the internet does, people have
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: put two and two together and a speculating TJ is
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: referring to Alex Earl signing with the Unwell Network. I mean,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: this whole thing does make a lot of sense. It
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: seems like Alex Earl is distancing herself from Alex Cooper
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and the network, and it is predicted she will jump
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: ship as soon as her contract is over with the network.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: And before we go, we want to address a TikTok
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: that's gone viral about our podcast. So off the back
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: of a topic about Ruby Tuesday Matthews bleaching her nine-year-old
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: son's hair, Amy made a very throwaway line about an
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Adelaide mum she saw on TikTok who fake tans her children. Yeah.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: And you will have noticed that Amy's voice is absent
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: from today's show. And that is because we have suspended
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: her over her comments. I'm just joking. We haven't really.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Amy's 31 weeks pregnant and she hosted her baby shower yesterday.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: She is absolutely exhausted. I don't think anyone should host
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: past 30 weeks pregnant. That was a bit of a mistake.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, we did help her.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: And we do want to clear this up because the
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: way TikTok works, there's no context.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: And Amy has got pregnancy insomnia at the moment.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: And as you do, you scroll on TikTok very late
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: at night. And for some reason, she has been down
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: this rabbit hole of people fake tanning their kids and
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: kids fake tanning routines. Now, She has seen a snippet
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: of Matilda Norton, who is the Adelaide Creators content, where
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: she said this line.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: A lot of new faces here since I confessed to
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: tanning my two little boys. So I thought I'd do
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: a little bit of an intro and tell you guys
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: a little bit about myself. So my name is Matilda.
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: I'm a stay-at-home mom to two little boys, Banks and Albie.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Now Matilda created that video off the back of her
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: going viral after she shared a satirical video about fake
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: tanning her children.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: She obviously does not fake tan her children.
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: Okay, I get so.
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: Many comments like this about Albie's gorgeous tan skin and
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: I'm going to share with you how we maintain the
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: summer glow for him, not me, clearly. So what I
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: do is after his bath, I just do two layers
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: of Bondi Sands Ultra Dark and.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I do want to point out that this was an
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: offhand comment. We didn't actually concentrate the whole segment calling
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: out Matilda or anything along those lines. And I want
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: to give Matilda a bit of a shout out because
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: she is an Adelaide creator who is doing so well
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: at the moment. I'm sorry that she was caught up
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: in this offhand comment. Her parenting content is amazing. She
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: is actually a very avid listener of the podcast. We
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: went back and had a look and we've actually been
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: chatting to her since I think like 2021. It's so
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: funny how social media works because I think it was
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, you sent me one of
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: her videos about how she's creating a mom's group in Adelaide.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Which is such a good idea. You should join. And
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: when I saw it, I was like, that name looks
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: so familiar. And I didn't put two and two together
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: that it was the same Matilda that's in our DM.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: So if you do see her video popping up, please
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: spare us a thought. It was a bit of a
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: fuck up, quite embarrassing. And in saying that, I do
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: really feel for Amy because that just shows the big
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: difference between TikTok and Instagram. So I feel like on Instagram,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: you have the context of who the people are that
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: you're following, but the way the TikTok algorithm works you
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: just shared this random content based on what you're looking at.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: So if you've just been scrolling watching a whole bunch
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: of content of people fake tanning their kids and then
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: this one pops up and it's like, oh, I went
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: viral for fake tanning my kids and you scroll on.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I just want people to know we do have a
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: sense of humour.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: We do get satirical comedy.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, we do.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe we need a bigger attention span. Yeah, we need
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: to put a block on Amy's phone so she's not
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: scrolling TikTok again at 4am. Well, I think that is
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: all we have time for today. Thank you so much
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: for joining us for another episode. If you have enjoyed it,
• 29:22
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• 29:30
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• 29:32
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• 29:35
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