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Terminello's Take Breaks Down The World Series As Well As Early NHL Buzz 11-4-24 · OneLegUpAlex Media

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Here's your host team, Alex Derek.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, well, it's been a minute because of scheduling
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  Speaker 2: stuff and whatnot, but I'm so excited to have Terminello's
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  Speaker 2: take back on this week. Lou Always love having you man.
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  Speaker 1: Alex, good to be back. Always love talking to you.
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  Speaker 1: We got a lot to talk about today. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know where you want to start, but we can go
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: over the end of the World Series first. I think
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: that might be a good place to start, but it's
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  Speaker 1: up to you.
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  Speaker 2: About the fact that almost every team in a six
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: month cycle has given New York hope and then it's
• 0:36
  Speaker 2: just crashed and burned. I mean, earlier in the year
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  Speaker 2: we had the Knicks should have beat the Pacers if
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: they were healthy. Then you have the Rangers lose to
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: a very hot Panthers team, and now you have the Yankees,
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  Speaker 2: who I think defeated themselves on the field. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's no doubt the Dodgers are prepared for that implosion,
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  Speaker 2: but the implosion even happening is the most concerning part,
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  Speaker 2: and it should be for all Yankee fans. I don't
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  Speaker 2: care how many notes the Dodgers took. The Yanks didn
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  Speaker 2: this themselves at least in Game five, adding Game one somewhat.
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  Speaker 1: Argue, Alex, I'm not going to disagree with you. Let's
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  Speaker 1: look at look let's look at Game one. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's one of the worst managed games in World Series history.
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  Speaker 1: And not only not only with putting a pitcher in
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  Speaker 1: Nesta Cortez who hadn't pitched in thirty seven days, when
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  Speaker 1: you had another left hander in the bullpen in Hill,
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: but you know, also why would you have taken out
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  Speaker 1: a cole after eighty eight pitches. He was only going
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  Speaker 1: to pitch one more time, so it's not like you
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  Speaker 1: had to save him for five more starts. That was
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  Speaker 1: a game the Yankees could have won and could have
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  Speaker 1: turned this series around, but they obviously didn't, and bringing
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  Speaker 1: Cortes is one of the all time worst moves in
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  Speaker 1: recent postseason, in postseason history in my opinion. Then you know,
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  Speaker 1: you get to you get to Game five, and the
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  Speaker 1: Yankees didn't hit. The Dodgers didn't hit either, with the
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  Speaker 1: exception of Freddy Freeman, the World Series Most valuable Player,
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  Speaker 1: But you get the game to.
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  Speaker 2: Know, and to your point of not hitting, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the Yanks could have blamed all that on Nester's armor,
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  Speaker 2: even the glabor Era, which just that was a rough
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  Speaker 2: play with a tiny going to third, but they left
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  Speaker 2: eleven guys on base, including in the top of the
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  Speaker 2: ninth when Judge himself stranded. And that series was very tough.
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  Speaker 2: And I get it's his first World Series. Maybe there's nerves,
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  Speaker 2: but I was expecting a lot more out of him.
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  Speaker 2: Not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he had been having a very good postseason up
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  Speaker 1: until that point. But each postseason series is different than
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  Speaker 1: the previous because the pressure builds. And usually even in
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  Speaker 1: a one postseason, the series within that post season one
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  Speaker 1: player in one series in the ALCS or the NLCS,
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  Speaker 1: a player might back three seventy five and then the
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  Speaker 1: World Series about one fifty. But the Yank I mean, Alex,
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  Speaker 1: we talked about the last two years. The Yankee attention
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  Speaker 1: to detail is poor. You know that, Like you said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: tany getting to third, you know, bomb the eighth inning
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  Speaker 1: in that first game, which led to the sacrifice flight.
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  Speaker 1: I tie that too too, when they eventually lost in ten.
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  Speaker 1: You know that, Uh, that's on the Yankees. I mean
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  Speaker 1: that really is. For some reason, they've run themselves out
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  Speaker 1: of innings, They've thrown to the wrong base, and it
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  Speaker 1: was all highlighted what happened in the top of the
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  Speaker 1: fifth inning in the clinching game for the Los Angeles Dodgers.
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  Speaker 1: The Yankees were a head five nothing, I act, and
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  Speaker 1: Cole through four innings was outstanding. Then he gave up
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  Speaker 1: that you know, at first base, hitting the top of
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  Speaker 1: the top of the of fifth. Then they had the
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  Speaker 1: back to back errors, the inspicable in despicable drop by
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  Speaker 1: judge and the ground ball of deep short were vope.
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  Speaker 1: He made the right decision, he just didn't executed and
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  Speaker 1: he threw it in the dirt to third, so the
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  Speaker 1: base is all nobody out. He strikes out the next
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  Speaker 1: two batters, okay, one of them Otani, and he made
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  Speaker 1: Otani look bad in that back So he has a
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  Speaker 1: chance to get at the inning five nothing and uh,
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  Speaker 1: he makes a very good pitch to Mookie Betts, who
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  Speaker 1: grounds the ball to first base, an easy played for Rizzo.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't run to first base because I think he
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  Speaker 1: thought that Cole was going to be there. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Bets might have beaten Rizzo out anyway, which he did,
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  Speaker 1: but Cole, I don't know. With the brain lock that
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  Speaker 1: Cole had he could have got ad inning with all
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  Speaker 1: the Yankee miscues. Miss, the Yankees weren't losing that game.
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  Speaker 1: Boom boom boom, you know the uh.
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  Speaker 2: You know, boom boom boom. All right, so you don't
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  Speaker 2: step on them first, you don't cover the bag. I
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  Speaker 2: do think that inning could have been prevented, though that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't excuse the fact that five runs were scored. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: where was mister boom boom boom. That's what I want
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  Speaker 2: to ask you, Lou. He needs someone to go out
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  Speaker 2: there to stop the momentum, right.
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  Speaker 1: Correct, Alex it was a twenty one. He should have
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  Speaker 1: come out, even though calls a veteran pitcher. You had
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  Speaker 1: to come out and settle them down and all just
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  Speaker 1: break the Dodger's momentum. It's like a time out in
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  Speaker 1: basketball when the team is on a run. And uh
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  Speaker 1: that was that was head scratching that Boom didn't come out.
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  Speaker 1: The thing is by failing to cover first base. Cole
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  Speaker 1: was at fifty four pitches with that pitch. Since they
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  Speaker 1: didn't get the third out, which they should have, it
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  Speaker 1: should have been an easy third out and he would
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  Speaker 1: have gotten out five nothing. He threw an additional twenty
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  Speaker 1: six pitches that in with Freddie Freeman singling to make
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  Speaker 1: it five to three, and then ti Oscar Hernandez hitting
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  Speaker 1: that double to left center field, tiring at five to five.
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  Speaker 1: The Yankees did take the lead six to five in
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  Speaker 1: the bottom in the six but again, you go to
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  Speaker 1: your bullpen every night, They're not going to be at
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  Speaker 1: the top of their game every night. And that's new baseball.
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  Speaker 1: You know, guys don't pitch into the eighth inning anymore.
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  Speaker 1: We start the game, and it ended up. It ended
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  Speaker 1: up with the Yankees losing seven.
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  Speaker 2: But I want to I want to push back a
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  Speaker 2: little bit because I still think Luke Weaver did a
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  Speaker 2: hell of a job for what he was saddled with
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  Speaker 2: there in the eighth inning. I mean, he just got
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  Speaker 2: the top guys to fly out. He has we're a sacrifice,
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  Speaker 2: but the Yanks are still in it at seven and six.
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  Speaker 2: He did not too bad in my eyes.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I agree with you, and the Yankees have
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  Speaker 1: already picked up his option for next year, which was
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  Speaker 1: a smart thing. He doesn't make a lot of money.
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  Speaker 1: He makes like two point five million, and he you know,
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  Speaker 1: he saved the Yankees Bacon and he's down the stretching
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs. There's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I said to you, maybe stupidly off air, I said, look,
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  Speaker 2: I think Boone's going to still out manage Roberts. But
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, Roberts bringing in his
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  Speaker 2: bullpen the way he did and locked in the rest
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  Speaker 2: of that game on Game five also should be noted.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that bullpen only allowed what one run the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the way, right, And.
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  Speaker 1: He knows what he was doing because when they when
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  Speaker 1: they brought in Walker Bueller on one day's rest, the
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  Speaker 1: pitch of ninth inning coming off, you know, arm surgery.
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  Speaker 1: Basically the last two years he's missed probably seventy percent
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  Speaker 1: of the action, and Walker Bueller was I mean, he
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  Speaker 1: was lights out in the bomb of ninth inning. Getting
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: back to manager Davey Roberts, Dave Roberts, that was I
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  Speaker 1: think the best managerial job he did was in these
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  Speaker 1: postseason playoffs. He did he did. Hey, sometimes you get lucky, Alex.
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  Speaker 1: Every button you pushes the right one. Sometimes you can
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  Speaker 1: you can strategize that way. But I think it was
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  Speaker 1: his finest moment as a major league manager. In the
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  Speaker 1: nine years he's been the manager of the Dodgers, and
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  Speaker 1: for all those people thought that he might get let
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  Speaker 1: go if the Dodgers had the postseason failure. Now the
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  Speaker 1: Dodgers don't let him go because he would be hired
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  Speaker 1: in ten minutes if they let him go by another team.
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  Speaker 1: He did a great job.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna admit here, I don't think I should
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  Speaker 2: have said this before the series started, but as you know,
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  Speaker 2: and I've set the time and time again, I've always
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  Speaker 2: wanted to see the Dodgers win in a one hundred
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  Speaker 2: six game series, and because it was a sixty games slate,
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  Speaker 2: I just didn't want to be this year.
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  Speaker 1: This year.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't want that.
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  Speaker 1: But here we go.
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  Speaker 2: I guess we got the I'll think get back and
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  Speaker 2: now we can focus on the angles and five.
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  Speaker 1: Now. You know.
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  Speaker 2: The cool thing about next year is a couple of
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  Speaker 2: anniversaries are coming up for the Yankees. Twenty five years
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  Speaker 2: since the Subway Series, which I still can't believe. And
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  Speaker 2: then it's also twenty five years since me and George Sandbernon.
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  Speaker 2: What a perfect anniversary gift. Really, that's a.
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  Speaker 1: Perfect anniversary gift for you. But you said twenty five
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  Speaker 1: years since the Subway series, and obviously I remember it well.
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  Speaker 1: I was at the three games at at Shay. And
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  Speaker 1: let me tell you one thing, Alex, if there was
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  Speaker 1: a Subway series this year, I think the Mets would
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  Speaker 1: have beaten them. As I said, the American League was weak.
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  Speaker 1: The Yankees played two fraudulent teams in Kansas City and Cleveland,
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  Speaker 1: who would not have made the playoffs in the National League.
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  Speaker 1: The Arizona Diamondbacks, between the seventh in the National League
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  Speaker 1: and lost on a tie breaker, were better or as good,
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  Speaker 1: or if not better than any of those teams, and
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  Speaker 1: I think that might have hurt the Yankees, the lack
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: of competition. Let's face it, even against Kansas City and Cleveland,
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: it was a life and debt struggle for the Yankees.
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  Speaker 1: So like we said before the postseason, it was an
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  Speaker 1: easy path for the Yankees to get to the World Series.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know again the Astros were running on fumes,
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  Speaker 1: lost too straight to a Detroit team. Even running on fumes,
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  Speaker 1: they should have beaten. But I don't know if the
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: Yankees could have beaten the Astros even if the Astros
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: were on their last leg as they seemed to be
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  Speaker 1: this year, because they would have been their head. And
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  Speaker 1: plus the fact that the Atros that still have a
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  Speaker 1: pretty good pitching staff.
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: They saw by the way from from from years ago,
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  Speaker 2: they still had that core with them.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: I gotta say Louis and the Astros ousting even the
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: Orioles a bit surprising. But one last thing. I thought
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: the main concern would be the base running errors against
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: the Royals and the Indie and the Guardians that were
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: going to cost the Yanks for tell the defense to
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: be a real downfall. So is this a managerial lack
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  Speaker 2: of preparation for this series?
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: Is that what that is? No? I just think, let's
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: face it, Juan Sota was probably the best hitter in
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  Speaker 1: baseball when it comes to uh the all around art
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: of hitting. His incredible batters discipline, he has an incredible
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: eye for the strike zone, and for all his offensive abilities,
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: he's an average right fielder. I don't know if that's
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: on that's not on the manager. I mean, for Duco's
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: a decent left fielder. As we know. Volpi won the
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: Gold Glove last year as a rookie. I know he
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: wanted to be through analytics. I was shocked that he won.
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: He wanted he but he's an up and coming player
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  Speaker 1: for the Yankees still, even as he approaches his thirt
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  Speaker 1: year next year, he's a keeper. It's not it's not
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: on Boon. And obviously the Yankees aren't going to get
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: rid of Boone. They already I think officially or unofficially
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: have have exercise the option for next year. But he
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: fits into what the Yankees wanting to do. The Yankees
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: are an analytic team. He's an analytic manager. And the
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  Speaker 1: only thing is, I guess they really like him because
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  Speaker 1: they had a guy sitting next to him the last
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  Speaker 1: four years and Carlos Mendoza, and I guess they didn't
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: like Carlos Mendoza enough to make a change. And Boone
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  Speaker 1: might just be a little bit too loyal to the players.
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: He'd you know, there's a good that you know, they
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: always say the players manager. He might be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit too much of a player's manager. But he's not going.
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  Speaker 2: Anywhere, No, he's not. I just don't know. In the
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: seven years culmination as he started, I mean, I just
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  Speaker 2: feel like there has to be a culture change somehow,
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  Speaker 2: some way, and maybe maybe Boone don't bring that, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't I don't know I just something that's got
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  Speaker 2: to be more shaped up with this team. That's how
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: I feel about it.
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  Speaker 1: Company Well, Alex as somebody who's watched the Yankees for
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: as many years as you have, and even myself, you're
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: a fan. I am not a Yankee fan, but I'm
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: a bit I love baseball and baseball observer of all teams. Yeah,
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: the Yankees have to bumton up. They can't just think
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: they can bludgeon teams to death. The base running and
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  Speaker 1: defensive and mistakes that they were able that they did
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: against the Royals and the Indians they were able to
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  Speaker 1: get away with. But you can't make those mistakes against
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  Speaker 1: the team like the Dodgers. They would have been able
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  Speaker 1: to make those mistakes against a team like this Padres
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  Speaker 1: or the Phillies or I don't even think the Mets.
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  Speaker 1: And remember, if there was a Subway series, the guy
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  Speaker 1: who was sitting next to Aaron Boone for the last
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  Speaker 1: four years was Carlos Mendoza. He would know all of
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  Speaker 1: of Aaron Boone's tendency tendencies. So we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: You know, again, the Yankees are still going to be
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: one of the teams to be next year. But they
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: just have to learn how to produce more runs. Then
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: just wait for Stanton to hit the ball out of
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  Speaker 1: the uh, you know, out in the left center field
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  Speaker 1: five hundred feet. The same thing with Judge, who had
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: another bad postseason. And now that's gonna be that's judging it.
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  Speaker 1: Sixty five home runs next year, but that I'm not
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  Speaker 1: saying it doesn't matter. But if he craps out in
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  Speaker 1: the playoffs again, that's what's gonna matter. That's what he's
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: gonna that's what his hat's gonna be hung on. So
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, we'll see. Now the real question is
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: Alex Garret, I'm gonna ask you this, So Garrett Cole,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: he opts out his contract, which a lot of baseball experts,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, the baseball experts said that they
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: weren't gonna do. He wasn't gonna do, he wasn't gonna
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: opt out. Well he did, he did. I think that, Alex.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: I think they're gonna give him the thirty six million,
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  Speaker 1: that fifty year. Yeah, I mean he'll take him to
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: thirty nine. Yes, he had that nerve, that nerve injury
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  Speaker 1: that kept him out you know, ten weeks early on
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  Speaker 1: this year but you always take a gamble with a pitcher.
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  Speaker 1: So he'll be thirty nine when this deal is over.
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  Speaker 1: But I would be surprised if the Yankees don't opt
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  Speaker 1: back in. They've already opted out of Rizzo.
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  Speaker 2: They will opt in. But I don't know if he's
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  Speaker 2: gonna take it. That's my point. I'm not sure what
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  Speaker 2: he's gonna want.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: So I think if the Yankees out back in, I
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: think he's bound. He's bound. If the Yankees the Yankees
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: getting the fifty or thirty six million he had, he
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: has no no freedom to talk to another team. But
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: you know, and then of course the big thing is
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: is Sodo, and you know you'll look at on Sodo. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so he's going to get six hundred, seven hundred million
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: dollars for twelve years. Say, okay, everybody says, well the
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: metsal sign of the Yankees, don't Alice, I'm not so sure.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not so sure.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: Well, you made an interesting comparison to his postgame press
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: conference after the World Series ended, and Garrett Coles, and
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: I was pretty ticked off at how open he was.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: And he's looking at all thirty teams. Your team just
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: lost the World Series and you're focusing on you instead
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: of trying to just say, hey, I'm here for my team.
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  Speaker 2: It felt very self aggrandizing, and I was a little
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  Speaker 2: disappointed to say the least, Alex, you're one.
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  Speaker 1: Hundred percent correct. You're one hundred percent correct on that.
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  Speaker 1: And it reminded me of when Cole after the Astros
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  Speaker 1: lost Game seven to the Nationals back in nineteen, when
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I forgot what was Ken Rosenstoel or one of the
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: guys on Fox asked him about his upcoming free agency
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: or something, said I'm no longer employed. Oh about the game?
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  Speaker 1: About Game seven, I'm going I'm no longer employee of
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: the Houston Astros. Basically, he hadn't even taken a shower yet.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: You know that made him look bad. But what Soto
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  Speaker 1: should have said in the locker room, he just said, hey,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I want to absorb. I had an enjoyable a twenty
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: twenty four season. I went to my second World Series.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I was part of the Yankees' forty first pennant. And remember, Alex,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: the Yankee season was still it was a success, it
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: wasn't a failure. But he handled it wrong because then
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: they started asking questions about teams. How about the Mets?
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: How you know? And then instead of cutting it off,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: he kept feeding into it and that was a bad
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: That was a bad look for Soda.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I actually got the ALCS championship shirp because I loved
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: this roster so much. I mean, this was a Winnabowl roster.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: It was a Gelling roster for the most part. And
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: h yeah, Anthony rizzowon and of course meeting Rizzo this
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: year was so special. And then just I don't know,
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: this felt like a team that was connected to the fans,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: unlike any other team over the years. It just seemed
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: like there was a geling there with everybody in the
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: quote unquote Repbex community.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: I like this roster. I'm just gonna say that. Yeah,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: well it's it's Alex. It's a roster that came within
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: three games of winning the World Series. So, like I said,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: they had a successful season, no doubt about it. I'm
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: not again, I'm not so sure of what's gonna happen
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: with Sodo. H Will the Mets be in it? Yeah,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I assume they will be. But you know, when you
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: have a Scott Borrows as your agent, you never know
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: where he might end up Soda that.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: That is, but you know, he could be one of
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: those guys that doesn't want to hold out either. I
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: mean he had Boris had a couple of guys holding out.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: I like SODA's gonna get a deal done faster than
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: some of his other claims.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, I would agree. So, I mean Bryce Harper went
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: into the first couple of weeks of training camp before
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: he signed with the Fields. I think it's gonna it
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: could be earlier than that. I would assume it's going
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: to be I would say, hopefully by the middle of January.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: But he's not. You know, there was a there was
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: an ex post out the other night, and I'm so
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: glad I'll have an x account saying that the Mets
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: had offered him five hundred and fifty five million the
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: year for twelve years and that John Hayman reported it.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: But that was fake news. But you know, with Borrows,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: you never know what's going to happen. Uh, look what
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: he did with Rodriguez. Because Alex Rodriguez back back in
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: what was it two thousand and one, I guess or
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: two thousand and two, He's signed up to Texas Rangers.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: You know why the range were in contender, but because
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: the Rangers paying the most money, and Scott Borrow's clients
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: always go where the most money is even if the
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: difference is not great, so they could be a dark horse.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: We talked. I would say, if you want to say
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: about a dark horse coming out of nowhere, I would
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: say the San Francisco Giants.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Well, I think we're going to see a similar thing
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: with Judge where Sodo flirt to another team, get something,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: to do something, and the Yankees will be with the match.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I just see that happening too.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, but then you're gonna have Cole at thirty six
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: million because the Yankees are gonna I believe the Yankees
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: will give him that fifth year. You're gonna have Judge
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: at forty million. That's that's say seventy six million, and
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: then Soda at seventy million. How could I mean, even
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: the Yankees have to have a ceiling on how much
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: you're gonna spend on the play. That's why. Not so sure,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: even though the Mets can spend more than anybody, and uh,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: you know Colin can write out a freaking personal check. Basically,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the Mets if the Mets my pass.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: If the Sodo money gets too crazy, maybe to sign
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: a couple of other guys, Maybe to fill a couple
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: of other spots. Alex Bregman's a free agent, maybe they
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: sign him five years to play third base for twenty
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: five million approximately. They move Vientos to first base, or
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Vanto's becomes their DH. They signed Corbyn Burns because all
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: the pitchers that they have this year, with the exception
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: of Peterson, are all on one of their deals. And
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: of course Cody Sando will be back next year and
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be big for the Mets. And if they
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: resign Alonzo, maybe Orlondo becomes the full time DH, or
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: him and Vento's split first base. So for those three guys,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: he probably is probably gonna cost you eighty eighty five
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: million instead of one guy as great as Soto is
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: for seventy million. I don't know. I mean, I could
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: see that happening. But I can tell you one thing.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Juan Soto was not giving the New York Yankees a
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: home down discount. That is not the way Scott Borroughs
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: operates with his guys.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: It doesn't even him. The way Soto operates with the
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: guys either.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: I mean it just he turned down that deal with
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the with the Nationals before Nationalist trade him and it
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: was six years. What was it, six years, one hundred
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and sixty million.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I remember that. That was pretty intense for he.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: You know, I always think these players can easily skip
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: over millions of dollars, mean, like you and I would
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: love a million dollars or more.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: You know, it's at just think the Yankees opted out
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: of Rizzo's deal. He was going to get seventy million
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: dollars if the Yankees opted in, so they opted out,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: but they had to buy him out. Rizzo still is
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: still going to get six million dollars next year from
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: the Yankees, so the Yankees could opt out of his contract.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: So the Yankees are saving eleven million dollars, but Anthony
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Rizzo is getting six million dollars.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: It's it's unbelievable baseball money talks like this is so
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: fascinating that of course Bonia still owed. What is that?
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Oh it is so many. I mean they used Bobby
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Bena be course it's a New York team into med team,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: but there's so many guys like that. The National Zone. Oh,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Max shows way more money than the Mets, oh Benia
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: for the next fifteen years. I think Manny Ramirez in
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the Red Sox, they owe a ton of money. I
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: mean you can if you really research, there's so many
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: of those type of deals.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: You know. I wouldn't also be surprised if he goes
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: to LA because Dodgers seem to just want to keep spending.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: So no, I mean if you go if Jan Sodo
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: goes to the Dodgers, that's not good for baseball, that
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: really is. That's terrible for baseball in my opinion. He
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: got Bets, you got Freeman, you got Otani, and you're
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: gonna have Sodo. This is the other thing with Juan Soto.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: He's twenty six years old, he's in the prime of
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: his physical career. But Alex he's not a great right field.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Like we earlier said, so are you gonna pay seventy
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: million dollars because is he going to be a dh
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: at the age of thirty? I mean, you got a
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: factor a lot of those things in there.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you this, speaking of in their prime,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: In a span of six months, we had Conor McDavid
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: comes this close to the Stanley Cup and then Aaron
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Judge comes this close to the Commissioner's Trophy, and I'm
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: going to ask you again, like I did with McDavid,
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: will he get there again? I think that's the pressing
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: question for Judge and the Yankees. I think he will.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: But it's just.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: Amazing in a six months time, the best players in
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: these leagues comes as close as close, and you wonder
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: can they get back there again?
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, knowing the Yankees history, they've made the
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: playoffs twenty five times in the last thirty years. Yes,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I will say that Aaron Judge will be in a
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: World Series again and we'll have a chance to win
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: that Commissioner's Trophy. I would give him a better shot
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: than Connor McDavid.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: All Right, Now, Edmonton's not looking as hot as they
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: usually are, right.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, the thing is that I don't know if
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: you want to jump out. You know, we got plenty
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: of time to talk about hockey. But the Edmonton Oilers
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: are off to a a shaky start, not as bad
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: as last year when they started out three twelve and one,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: and McDavid has an injury that's going to keep him
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: out another two weeks, so we'll see. But a couple
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of things in hockey right away and then, and it's
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: not with the local teams. The Winnipeg Jets are off
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: to an eleven and one start, and the Washington Capitals
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: there are eight and three, and Alex Ovechkin is only
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: he's only thirty four goals behind a record many thought
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: was unbreakable when Gretzky's all time goal record of eight
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: hundred and ninety four goals. He's only thirty four away
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: from breaking it, from tying it, thirty five from breaking it.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: At this pace, he'll do it. And right around the
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: end of last week in March, first week in April
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: last year, Alex Ovechkin had a terrible first half of
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: the season and many people thought that he might have
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: been petering out. But he's off to a great starts.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Unless he gets hurt, he's gonna break. He's gonna hit
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: nine hundred goals, which was thought thought impossible. And remember
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Gretzky did it in an offensive era. Ovechkin's doing it
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: in his career in a much much more defensive era
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: where the goals a game weren't so plentiful as there
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: were in the eighties. And I mean Alex in the
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: eighties there were eight seven games, ten six games, and
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: so that's that's my.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: It's on, and that watch was off for a little bit,
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: but it's back on. And I say off a little
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: bit because his health and his his goal production last
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: year was a little lower than normal, so.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: People, and then at the end of the season he
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: got he got hot, but for a long stretch he
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: couldn't put the puck in the net, and he wasn't
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: getting scoring chances, which is almost impossible. The guy always
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: leads the league in scoring opportunity.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: But I tell you what a scoring though. Vechkin is
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: a scary cattle team. I don't care how old he is.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: So that's as well.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Like Dalax, they're well coached, all right.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I want to stay with hockey now that we're here
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: for a second, because yesterday I think we saw a
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: tale of two teams where they're going. I could be
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: wrong about the Islanders, but and I know Barzell's hurt,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: but look the Aisles, and we both know lou La
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Morello and I have an affinity for him, but is
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: it on him that this team is just flailing right now?
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I feel like they're not on a good, good footing.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: If you are they have a skeleton team out there
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: to the player who's going to be out four to
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: six weeks, devastating loss. By the time he gets back,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the season could be over. Anthony Duclair, who has signed
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: as a free agent to play in the top line,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: played just two games and got hurt. I believe he's
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: about ten days away from coming back, and Pellick is
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: going to be out four to six weeks. He has
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: been a mainstay for the Islanders defense. Alexander Romanov did
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: not play yesterday and he's their best defensive defenceman. But
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: all that being said, in the first ten games of
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the year, they still have a lot of the same
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: problems that they've had last year and in the past.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Their power play is ineffective, their penalty kill is ineffective,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: and uh as good as you could be five on five,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: If your if your especialty teams are down at the
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: bottom of the league, you're not going to be successful. Now, Iliak,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: they're lucky that they have them. What a spectacular goaltender
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: he is. I mean, you look at you look at
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the Ola sokn I mean if Jhamas have him, and
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: they have obviously a great backup in in in Volomov.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Who knows where they would be. But can Island just
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: hang on until I get some of these injured guys back,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if you if I had
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: to make a decision on that, I would say no.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: And there's nobody at Bridgeport that's ready to come up
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: and you know, make you know, make an impression and
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: uh and.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: I know Patrick Waugh is still there behind the bench
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: and it's been he was sort of the beginning of
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: hope last year. What are your thoughts on him behind
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: the bench this year in his first real fourth.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Last year, if they didn't make the change, if they
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: didn't put Guah in to replace Lambert Lane Lambert, they
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: would not have They wouldn't have made the playoffs. You
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: has to lost in the first round, but to a
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: better Carolina team, but they would not have made the playoffs.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit surprised that there's been just sentence
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: of the game where it seemed like the Islanders were
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: non competitive and Patrick Waugh was one of the most
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: competitive hockey players ever. He was one of the most
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: competitive goalies that that he could want, So that has
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: that surprised me a little bit. Four time Stanley Cup
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: win or two different teams. So we'll see, but we'll
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: see the other side of the ice.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I'm very happy for Vinnie Trocheck for getting gold to hundred.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: He and Pryder are and I would say Coolly and
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: a couple other guys are leading the way here. Panerin
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: gets his goals and he's on a way on his way.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: The Rangers hot start a little hotter than last year,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: seems promising. Now is it gonna last.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna it's gonna last. Be the Rangers have
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: such a good team, but the Rangers need to need
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: to tie up a bit. Even though the Rangers have
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: had a very good start, I Goosustkin has been spectacular,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: not good. He's been spectacular. So now you can see
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: why he turned down that, uh that that eleven million
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: dollars a year deal. I don't know how hard the
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Range you're gonna have to go to resign him. He's
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: by far their best player. P Thearin's their best skater,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: I believe, along with Cryer, I don't think the Rangers
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: have played their best yet and are off to a
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: tremendous start. So that's good for the Rangers again, the Rangers.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: It's now, it's Stanley couple of bus time.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I know it is. And because again talking about prime
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: of their careers, this is the prime for Crier. This
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: is the time he's been on this team forever. Get
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: him the ring now. And I want him to get
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: a ring as bad as I want.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Judge to get a ring with the Yankees.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, the hunger is here for these guys to
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: win the ring.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: It's just it's you want Judge to get the ring,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: but you want him to be you want him to
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: be a major player and then getting the ring. Just say,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: if the Yankees had won this year and Judge had
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: had a you know, and Judge and not have a
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: good postseason, how would you feel about that.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: We got the anksor ring. I wouldn't care about it.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: But I mean, don't Wun't you want Judge to have
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: a stamp on the ring on Championship one. I'm just
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: throwing it out there.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: What I wanted to get the game winner that seals
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: their ring. Absolutely I would want that, all right, But
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, and I'd won Prider. You know,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Prider and Zabanajet were not there in the Conference finals.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know what happened to them, but they just
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: were not the guys they were in even the first
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: couple of rounds. It was very frustrating because here's this
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: first line and they're not really being the gold producers
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: in that series. And Zabanajet with that shot over over Lebrovski,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: it still haunts me to this moment as I talk
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: about it. LOUI, yeah, I mean it's just one of
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: those shots you can't get over.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Well, you gotta remember the Rangers played an incredibly disciplined
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: team in the Florida Panthers. I mean they were all
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: over the Rangers and all their opponents in the postseason.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Like Glue, they know they were assignments. There weren't a
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: lot of breakouts against the Florid. Uh. They they're disciplined
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: as far as staying in their defensive lanes and they
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: have at they had a great goaltender and uh, they're
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: off to a great start too. I don't know if
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: they're going in the Cup again. It's very hard to
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: win too in a row these days. But like I said,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: this is the Rangers, this is the Rangers time, and
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: we'll we'll keep obviously, Uh, tabs on them as the
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: season and we'll we'll focus more on them as this
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: season goes along them.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: The devil's in the Islanders and yeah, we'll have to see. Hey, no, Lou,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I want to speak staying in their jersey.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I want to ask you this. There's no way to
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: trade coaches, right you like, if you traded Dave with
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: the Dallas and you traded McCarthy to the Giants, maybe
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: those teams will be better fit for those coaches. I mean,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: what is going on with both teams right now? Dallas
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: looks I guess it's organized. Now that's hurt and then
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: you got the Giants. Every time Daniel Jones supposed to
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: throw football, I get nervous. I don't know if he's
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: gonna complete it or throw an interception or just waste down.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: It's just it's very nervousing to watch Dani Jones throw football.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: I have to.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Well, Alex, I don't think Brian Dable is going to
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: lose his job during the season. I don't think he's
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: gonna lose his job at the end of the year.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons is because the Giant
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: management has gone through coaches in the last six or
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: seven years from McAdoo to Pat Charmer to Joe Judge.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to do it again after
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: three years. I could be wrong. Dennis Allen got fired
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: today and you know, in the middle of his third
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: year with the New Orleans Saints. And Alex just goes
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: to show you, as I always say, this week changes
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: week to week. They scored ninety one points the Saints.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: They're in their first two games, they haven't won the
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: games since and their coach, their head coach got fired
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: this morning. So you really, it's just such a hard
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: sport to uh to figure out, really because of injuries
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: and there's just so many factors that come at you
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: from so many different angles. But I think Joe Shanean
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: is okay, and I think Brian Davill's okay. The thing
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: is coming into this draft unless somebody really jumps up,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: you don't have the quarterbacks, not as we as we
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: talk here in the first full week of November that
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: you had last year. Now that could change the rest
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: of the way. But now and you could see a
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: little bit with Drake May I mean, the Patriots aren't
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: a good team, but you could see the kid has talent,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: he's got athletic ability, he can run. You could see
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: why the Giants were so interested in trying to trade
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: up to get to get Drake May.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, by the ways, being of Drake May. Everybody was
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: so pissed off that the Jets lost this one in
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: six Patriot team. I'm sure you were too. I mean,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: it was just pretty bad. But I got to commend
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  Speaker 2: them on the follow up against the Texans. I mean,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Rogers Adams, that's vintage, isn't it. The way they were
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: connecting there, and then Garrett Wilson involved with that incredible catch,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: that OBJ type catch. I mean, maybe they're still in
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: it that three and six. Is there a possibility or not?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: This is just me talking. They're out of it. They're done,
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  Speaker 1: They're done. I mean, I think if you go down
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: the NFC and NFC, we could almost pick out the
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: teams that are definitely in one or two teams on
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the bubble. The Jets are not like that now. Again,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: as poorly as the Jets have played, if Greg Zerline,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: you know who is in the eighty three eighty four
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: percent successful rate in his NFL career and has had
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: a successful NFL career didn't miss a forty four yard
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  Speaker 1: field goal and an extra point against New England, didn't
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: clank a thirty two yard field goal against Buffalo, and
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: missed a forty seven yard field goal against Buffalo. And
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: the Buffalo game was a Jets' best game. That's a
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: game the Jets should have won. And he did miss
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: a fifty yarder. Yes it was in the rain against Denver. Yes,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: it shouldn't have come down to that. The Jets should
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: have had that game, should have played better in that game.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: But just think, just take two of those games. So
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: instead of three and six, if an air line came through,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: the Jets are five and four, and I would say, yes, Sallex,
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  Speaker 1: they're still winning. But at three and six, they're not
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  Speaker 1: in it. I think that. I think there's a very
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: good chance they're underdog against Arizona on Sunday, and I
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: don't have confidence that they could win that. They still
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: got to play Miami twice, which was different than playing
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: safe Miami a month ago because two is back now.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Obviously Tour can get hurt because he gets concussions easily,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: so we don't know that. But they gotta still go
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  Speaker 1: to Buffalo. They got to play the Rams at home, Alex,
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  Speaker 1: they're done. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm as
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: wrong as I was when we were talking about the
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Mets back in June. Back in May, when I said
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: they're going nowhere, but the Jets, you're done. I mean
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: they're done. Nick. Now, let's think who's going to be
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: a new coach? Is they're going to be a new
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: general manager? I think they probably will be. It's Aaron
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Rodgers going to be their quarterback next year. I would
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: say that's fifty to fifty. You know, there's a lirash somewhere.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: He wants a deal.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Pretty he wants a deal done with the Jets at
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: some point before the season's over or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: I want to get to one of them.
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  Speaker 1: He's got, I think he. I think his deal has done, Alex.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I think his deal is done for next year. I
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: want to get that. I didn't know that.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: But I want to get to one more team before
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: we wrapped today. Uh well, I guess a couple, but
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: but really one that's on my heart because you know,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: my dad's a big Bear fan, and he would be
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: rolling in his ashes right now if he saw the
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: way they lost to Washington and then they lose yesterday.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I know, I we don't get the games here locally,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: so I can't and you probably watched these games.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I watched a good team.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I feel like they're still a good team to come
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: back in this season. I mean, I know the NFC
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: door that is just overpowered by the lines and vikings,
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: but they're still a good team.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Like I said you in your early part of the year,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: they're an interesting watch. They got run on yesterday bye
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: by Arizona. Williams did not have a good game yesterday,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: but again you didn't playing the quarterback. When you lose,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: it's the whole team most of you know, most of
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: the time is you know, there's so many components to
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: a quarterback being successful and the quarterback being unsuccessful. And
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Williams are going to be fine. And the three rookie
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks well, now that's four rookie quarterbacks starting, but the
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: three who started this season Williams, Jane and Daniels and
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: bow Knicks are fine. And bow Knicks since I saw
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: him one month ago, literally one month ago, where he
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: was horrendous, even though Denver beat the Jets ten to nine,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: his improvement over the last four weeks has been remarkable
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: and looks like he's going to be a solid NFL
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: quarterback and he's athletic. So but the Bears, the Bears
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: have good players. I mean, the Bears do have good players.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: So again, they play a tough you know, just a
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: tough division. The face of the Lions are probably the
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: best team in the NFC, and they might be the
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: best team in the NFL.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: So I could see a Casey Lines super Bowl. And
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned best team because here they are
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: the Casey Chiefs against the Bucks tonight. I would say
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: they should stay undefeated. I think it's a fascinating story
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: that after repeating they're now undefeated. I mean, and they're
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: just adding on. They keep adding these other wide receivers
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: if you notice, I mean these guys they're making moves
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: still well.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: And their offense has not been good, Alex, they're seven
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: and on your offense has not been good. They have
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: a and we've talked about this in the past. Their
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: defense is young, is aggressive, is creative, and uh they
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: got they got a heck of a chance to go
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: back to uh back to the super Bowl again because
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: they haven't played anywhere near their offensive abilities. Yes, I know,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I don't have the receivers I used to have, and
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: I know, but Checko's hurt. I think he's going to
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: come back maybe next week. That'll help their running game. Obviously,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: the receivers Rice and Hollywood Brown are done for the year,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: so we'll see. But don't underestimate Andy Reid, Steve Spagnola,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. You know, that's a pretty good, pretty good
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: trio to have. But if I was running for MVP
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: right now, I would row for Jared Goff.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's the guy right now. I mean the
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: way he's connecting with his guys, it's pretty awesome to watch.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: I want to just tweak one thing about Daniel Jones.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: I think he's better.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: In the short game than the long game. It seems
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: like when they get him on the short game, he
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: completes his passes, I think, complete the touchdowns. I just
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: I don't get why they keep trying to go along
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: with him. Just keep them short and they might actually
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: have some success the rest of the way here, Am
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I right?
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Well, it seems like his accuracy is better on the
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: short range ball then, even though he has a strong
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: arm and he's a tough kid Alex that touchdown he
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: scored where he bounced off those two Washington defenders and
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: then to the end zone. I mean you actually heard
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: the collision, you know on a field mic. You know
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: he again? Is he he? Will he be in this
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: league five years from now? Yes, I don't know if
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: he'll be a starter, but he'll be. He'll be in
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: this league. But uh, the Giants have The Giants have
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: different issues, and say the Jets do. I mean the
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Jets issues I think might be worse because the Jets
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: have talented players and uh, they're just not getting it done,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: whether it be coaching, which I think it is. And uh,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: the Giants just have a lot of holes to fill.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, just just just look at Evan Neil. He
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: was drafted seventh overall in a league or offensive linemen
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: or at a premium offense. The offensive line throughout all
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: these teams in the league is so many teams the
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: weakest part of teams the offensive line. Evan Neil can't
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: can't get a snap. You know. They drafted the kid
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: from Maryland, Deyontay Banks. The cornerback had got beat for
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: two touchdowns yesterday and has been has pulled up on
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: on tackles a couple of weeks ago against the Eagles,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: and and Realen hurts the same thing in a game
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh. What's with this guy? I mean, don't they
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: vet these guys. It's mind boggling to me. See that
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: can course, that can course that Joe Shane's job earlier.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I just don't think that that John Marray is going
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: to pull a trigger. Maybe next year at this time.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, by the way, I know, last thing, yep, go ahead,
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: one last thing before we wrap today. The legend Michael Jordan,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: I guess was rumored to him made a political endorsement,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: but in typical Jordan's style, his team is saying he
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: doesn't endorse anybody. So, you know, I'm not surprised, but
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: I just think it's fascinating that here we are on
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: a sports talk and here's Michael Jordan not making endorsement
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: after rumors that he endorsed Trump.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, should the greatest player of all time that
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: any of us ever seen make an endorsement or way
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: in or what.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: He does not have to. He is not obliged to
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: do that. He's a private citizen. He doesn't have to
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Actually, I would say Lebron could take a page out
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: of Michael because I think he talks a lot for
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: an athlete that people really just watch to play the game,
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: to be honest.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: But Alex, you're ondred percent correct.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: But that's besides the point. On that note, Lou loved
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: having you this week as always, anything that you want
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: to cover before we wrap up today.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna just throw a question out of at you.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Which NFL quarterback has eight touchdown passes and nine interception?
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, coach, quarterback of the seven and oh Kansas
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: City Chiefs has eight touchdowns and nine interceptions? How about that?
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: They've not been earth shattering. I guess we could say
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: they really have it. I mean, I I don't know.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: I guess all these chief years, I've used to them
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: making the highlight reel, I don't see much highlight reels
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: from them, to be honest. It's been a little more
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: under the radar for a seven team.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: No doubt about it. And Alex, that's scary for the
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: NFL because they're going to get better offensively.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: Especially when Pacheco comes back. But we'll have to see. Hey, Lou,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: thanks as always my friend and we'll do this again soon.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Alex, thank you for having me as always and you
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: have a good good day.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: That was one leg up on sports with Terminello's take.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Lou Terminello