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NFL Week 17 Predictions/ Are the Knicks Bound to win the East this year? · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode number
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  Speaker 1: one eight of the so called sports analysts, Josh, how
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  Speaker 1: you doing?
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  Speaker 2: How am I doing? How am I doing? Man, it
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  Speaker 2: feels good to be a Spurs fan, That's all I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna say. It feels damn good knowing that the defending champs.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even care if they went on Christmas Day
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  Speaker 2: they got bullied, and back to back up matchups against
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  Speaker 2: the San Antonio Spurs. We'll talk about it here in
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  Speaker 2: a little bit, but yeah, I feel it feels amazing
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  Speaker 2: right now. Basketball brings so much joy to my heart.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I was right or die watching every
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  Speaker 2: game happy when they were losing. Dude, it just imagine
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  Speaker 2: me right now. Like I said, no one believed me
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  Speaker 2: when I said that the Spurs start was like the
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  Speaker 2: Chiefs winning a Super Bowl. For me was meant more
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  Speaker 2: to me than what the Chiefs than the Chiefs winning
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  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. And everyone thought I exaggerating. I'm not exaggerating.
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  Speaker 2: This is amazing. I feel like I'm on cloud nine
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  Speaker 2: right now. I feel like I just it just feels
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  Speaker 2: amazing to watch the Spurs play basketball like this.
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  Speaker 1: Once again, I mean Spurs they are playing some damn
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  Speaker 1: good basketball. We're talking about it as far as I'm
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  Speaker 1: behind the scenes, Josh, Josh and I we talked probably
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  Speaker 1: basketball for like good ten to fifteen minutes just beforehand,
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  Speaker 1: just talking about the Spurs right here. But all right,
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  Speaker 1: before we start, find us on Twitch, Discord, TikTok, Instagram,
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  Speaker 1: Whether you listen to this live or another day, we
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it. Make sure that's anybody likes sports. But before
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  Speaker 1: we get into NBA hoops, we need to do our predictions,
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  Speaker 1: in which this is a crucial This is a back
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  Speaker 1: against the wall moment for you, Josh, because I won
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  Speaker 1: last week? Is it? It's nine to seven and it's
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  Speaker 1: the first to ten. So what this means is that
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  Speaker 1: you could get to nine wins, we could tie it
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  Speaker 1: and then obviously we'd probably go in the playoffs or
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  Speaker 1: or do something about it. But you have to win
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  Speaker 1: out in order in order to tie it, in order
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  Speaker 1: to tie it for the predictions. But if I win,
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  Speaker 1: it's officially over. So back against the wall. So any anything,
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  Speaker 1: any advice or any pep talk you have before.
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  Speaker 2: None, just get the job done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't worry. I'm done. I'll get the job done.
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  Speaker 1: But this first, get.
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  Speaker 2: The job done. Just get the job done, baby.
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  Speaker 1: With this first one we have right here, it is
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  Speaker 1: the Christmas Games. There's three games in this one, which
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  Speaker 1: first is the Cowboys versus the Commanders, in which the
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys are favored by seven over unders fifty and a half,
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  Speaker 1: in which the Commanders are starting a third string quarterback
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  Speaker 1: in this one because Mariota is out. So who are
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  Speaker 1: you taking?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Cowboys can't be that bad or they allow
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  Speaker 2: a thirst tune quarterback to beat them. So I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: go to the Dallas Cowboys. And plus I still think
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  Speaker 2: that they're gonna push the ball down the field and
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  Speaker 2: continue to try putting up points. I don't think this
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  Speaker 2: is a team that where even though they're out, they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna start pulling back their reins a little bit. I
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  Speaker 2: still think the Cowboys are gonna go a full throttle
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  Speaker 2: in this one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too. And that was a report
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  Speaker 1: that came out there were some people inside the building
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  Speaker 1: that wanted Dak to sit and Dak like he he
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  Speaker 1: was damn near insulted by it, saying like I'm not
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  Speaker 1: gonna sit this. So I think this just shows everything
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  Speaker 1: that you said right here, and honestly, I think we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna go back to the eight and eight days, Josh here,
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  Speaker 1: gonna kick it back old school. We're six eight and
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  Speaker 1: one right now, so I think the Cowboys are gonna
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  Speaker 1: win this one and Wednesday about next week versus New York.
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  Speaker 1: But this other game that's at three o'clock right here
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  Speaker 1: is the Detroit Lions versus Minnesota Vikings. Wis the Lions.
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  Speaker 1: They have a sliver of hope left for the playoffs
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  Speaker 1: in which they are facing the Vikings. This is in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy is out. Detroit's favored by seven and a
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  Speaker 1: half over Unders forty three and a half. Who are
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  Speaker 1: you taking?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going with Detroit. I still think that they're
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  Speaker 2: a playoff contending team. They've struggled, They've had some hard matchups,
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  Speaker 2: injuries have really got into that defense. I think this
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  Speaker 2: is the game where they get back on track. They
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  Speaker 2: kind of even though against an easier matchup and not
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  Speaker 2: a real quarterback on the other side, they will do
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna sneeze hold on, dude, I'm trying to fight
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  Speaker 2: it right now. I'm trying to fight it. Oh dude,
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to talk and I just felt it
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  Speaker 2: coming and I was like, dude, I was like, whoa
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  Speaker 2: bro Like, I was like, it just and it never
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  Speaker 2: never happened. But yeah, so I'm gonna go with Detroit
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  Speaker 2: in this one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, give me go ahead and sneeze, Josh, don't worry,
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  Speaker 1: You're done talking.
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  Speaker 2: No, it didn't happen, like it's just it's easy.
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  Speaker 1: The worst feeling, worst feeling. No, but yeah, give me
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  Speaker 1: Detroit in this one. Obviously, they're fighting for their playoff
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  Speaker 1: hopes and I think I don't know the exact path,
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  Speaker 1: but I think they would need Green Bay to lose
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  Speaker 1: out and they need to win out. So I think
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  Speaker 1: they have to beat Minnesota, even though I think they'll
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  Speaker 1: give up a good fight defensively, but there's just gonna
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  Speaker 1: be more than enough firepower. But all right, this last
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  Speaker 1: Christmas game we have right here, Denver Broncos versus the
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  Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, in which the Punkos are favored by
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  Speaker 1: thirteen and a half in Kansas City over under thirty
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  Speaker 1: six and a half. In this ball game with say
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  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, last name again, Chris Ola Duccan. Chris Ola
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  Speaker 1: Ducan is starting for the Chiefs like everybody expects from
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. Who are you taking, Josh.
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  Speaker 2: As much as I love Chris, two time Super Bowl champion,
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  Speaker 2: Chris Ola Duccan consistently a good practice squad player, always
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  Speaker 2: doing the model for a mimicking offenses for us to
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  Speaker 2: get our team prepared. He's he's been a He's really
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  Speaker 2: a staple in Kansas City. Like I will say, like
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  Speaker 2: he's really respected as the player that he is. He's
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  Speaker 2: been here for a while. As much as I want
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  Speaker 2: to see him go out there and ball out, I
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  Speaker 2: really don't want us to win this football game, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we will. So I'm gonna go with
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  Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos in this one because I think a
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  Speaker 2: lot of players are gonna start sitting out. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think Rashie Rice plays in this one once again. He
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  Speaker 2: might be shut down for the rest of the season probably,
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  Speaker 2: So I I do think that this is a point
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  Speaker 2: where the Chiefs are kind of waving the white flag
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  Speaker 2: just a little bit. I mean, we have to pretty much,
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  Speaker 2: but where they're not even gonna try pushing some players
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  Speaker 2: out there that don't even be pushed out there and
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  Speaker 2: not risk more injury because look at Gardner Minshew, you know,
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  Speaker 2: so we look and Denver right now, they need to win.
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  Speaker 2: They're fighting for the first place, for first for first place,
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  Speaker 2: and they really need this win to continue to stay
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  Speaker 2: in the mix with the New England Patriots. And I
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  Speaker 2: think do think that they're gonna They're gonna walk away
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  Speaker 2: with this one quite easily.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Denver's gonna win this one. But the real story
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  Speaker 1: as far as this, Josh, I didn't ask you to
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  Speaker 1: ask you this personally, so obviously the news that came
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  Speaker 1: out the Chiefs are moving officially to Kansas City. So
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  Speaker 1: there's gonna be a new stadium, right, there's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a new stadium. So are you gonna try to make
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  Speaker 1: it to the Arrowhead? Yeah? Are you gonna try to
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  Speaker 1: make it the Arrowhead? I feel like you have to
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  Speaker 1: as a Chiefs fan, like, yeah, I have to.
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  Speaker 2: I have to try making it out there like I've
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  Speaker 2: gone for the period they've gone.
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  Speaker 1: Two years, two years, they're gonna move. No, in twenty
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  Speaker 1: thirty one, Oh it's twenty thirty one. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: why I thought they were gonna go somewhere. Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: you got five years, you got.
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  Speaker 2: Five years, and then I want to go try well,
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City, Kansas is only like twenty miles away from Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Actually also, but I want to go back to Arrowhead
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  Speaker 2: beforehand for her actual game. I've only been there to
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  Speaker 2: see it on the outside that in the Royal Stadium
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  Speaker 2: and then when I went to the parade. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I for sure want to go out there and catch
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  Speaker 2: a game before it's all said and done. And then
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  Speaker 2: I'm kind of disappointed. I'm not disappointed that they move,
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  Speaker 2: Like I really do think that, Hey, the Chiefs have
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  Speaker 2: been one of the bottom teams when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: facilities in stadium and all that stuff, and I do
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  Speaker 2: think they need a really big upgrade. But I just
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  Speaker 2: don't want the Dome stadium, Like I don't want a
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  Speaker 2: dome stadium for Kansas City. I think what part of
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  Speaker 2: makes Kansas City's like home field advantage is the cold
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  Speaker 2: in the winter time.
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  Speaker 1: And then look at how my medians feel. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: echoing like of everything that like the twelveth man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's kind of like one of those things.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like the Dome. I guess it's cool,
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  Speaker 2: but also I'm really happy that there's gonna be upgrades
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  Speaker 2: to everything, Like there's gonna be a whole new facility,
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  Speaker 2: a whole new stadium, a whole new outlook on what
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna be. There's still the Kansas City Chiefs at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day. And yeah, so they could
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  Speaker 2: go to San Antonio, Texas and I still be a
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  Speaker 2: Chiefs fan, you know what I'm saying. That would be nice,
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  Speaker 2: but it would never happen.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean, it only took what Patrick Mahomes to
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  Speaker 1: have another dynasty and them win three Super Bowls for
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  Speaker 1: them to finally get like new facilities and everything. So
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  Speaker 1: it's about time and like rightfully deserved in Kansasity, Like
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  Speaker 1: you're saying, it's only twenty miles away, but it's just
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  Speaker 1: like an iconic stadium. Like one thing. Okay, I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: as big as a Braves fan or I was barely
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  Speaker 1: getting a baseball back then, but like Turner Field for
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  Speaker 1: the Braves, like that was one of the most iconic
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  Speaker 1: and obviously since it's not there no more, you just
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  Speaker 1: want to go to the classic, the classic stadium. But
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  Speaker 1: all right, as far as these next games, we have,
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  Speaker 1: right here. It's not the Sunday slate, it's a Saturday
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  Speaker 1: slate of games, which this should be the first good
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  Speaker 1: one right here. Houston Texans versus the LA Chargers, in
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  Speaker 1: which the charge are Chargers are favored by two and
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  Speaker 1: a half at home over under thirty nine and a half,
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  Speaker 1: so it's not expecting points in this one. Who are
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  Speaker 1: you taking?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Houston in this one. I
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  Speaker 2: think the defense is gonna kind of shut down this week.
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  Speaker 2: Offensive line they've been, They're still dealing with a lot
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  Speaker 2: more injuries, and I believe another person went down this
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  Speaker 2: last week. So yeah, I'm gonna continue to go with
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  Speaker 2: Houston and they're gonna It's really sucks this running game
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  Speaker 2: finally getting Mary Hampton back. I still do think this
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  Speaker 2: is a game where they try rapping him up. They're
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  Speaker 2: not gonna go full throttle against the Houston Texans with him,
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with the Houston Texans.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm taking the Texans here as well. They're just
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  Speaker 1: even though the Chargers have good vibes of Texans, they're
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  Speaker 1: one of the hottest teams or the hottest team in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. I believe they have seven straight victories, and
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be this eighth one just purely defensively.
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  Speaker 1: And the charges last week. Again coming from a Cowboys fan,
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't buy the hype of oh, this offense
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  Speaker 1: is back. You know you just played the Cowboys defense.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's all it. Who was right there? And this
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be from the worst defense to the best
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  Speaker 1: defense in the NFL. So yeah, give me the Texans
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  Speaker 1: in this one as well. But the other game that's
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday, the Baltimore Ravens versus the Green Bay Packers,
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  Speaker 1: in which the status of Lamar Jackson is still unknown,
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  Speaker 1: but it's looking like he's going to play. This is
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  Speaker 1: in Lambeau. Green Bay is favored by three over under
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  Speaker 1: his forty and a half points in this one. Who
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  Speaker 1: are you taking?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go with green Bay in this one.
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  Speaker 2: I just think Baltimore they're struggling too much, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: going into this game. I'm sure Lamar Jackson is gonna
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  Speaker 2: be shut down for this one too as well. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if they rolled him out yet, and it's
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  Speaker 2: on a short week. It's well questionable like he's on
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  Speaker 2: a short week. That it's gonna be a I think
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna be a close call if he does end
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  Speaker 2: up playing. But even at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 2: the Packers defense is still very good even without Micaeh
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  Speaker 2: Parsons and I for some reason, I feel like if
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  Speaker 2: Jordan Love doesn't play in this game, I kind of
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  Speaker 2: trust Malak Willis just a little bit, so not to
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  Speaker 2: do anything spectacular, but to keep them afloat. For sure.
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  Speaker 1: I think Malik Willis, he's like, if this makes sense,
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  Speaker 1: like revived his career in Green Bay, not a starter,
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  Speaker 1: but like as a like he he's known as a
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  Speaker 1: great backup. He's known as a green backup.
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  Speaker 2: I can see that. Yeah, Like, I do think this
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  Speaker 2: is the spot where he's gonna be. And plus the
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  Speaker 2: weapons around him like he has, he has a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of guys to get the ball to. So it's not
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  Speaker 2: like he's in Tennessee where there's no one's on the
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  Speaker 2: outside the offensive line. He has will Levis breathing down
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  Speaker 2: his neck like it's none of that. It's all about
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  Speaker 2: just it's just him and just getting the ball to
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  Speaker 2: the playmakers and keep it and not turning the ball over.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, well I'm I'm taking the package here with that.
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  Speaker 1: But that's the name I haven't heard shout out to
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  Speaker 1: Will Levis. I remember we talking about him all the time.
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  Speaker 1: But no, Yeah, Packers are winning this one again, like
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  Speaker 1: you're saying, defense is good, and they lost to a
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  Speaker 1: good Chicago team Woulich. They had them on the ropes
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  Speaker 1: the entire game. If it wasn't for Chicago making a
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  Speaker 1: great comeback, then we wouldn't even be talking about this.
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  Speaker 1: But let's get to the Sunday slate of games right here.
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  Speaker 1: First one Cardinals versus Bengals. With the Bengals are favored
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  Speaker 1: by seven at home over runners fifty three and a half.
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  Speaker 1: This is the most points of the week by far,
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  Speaker 1: So who are you taking?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think this could end up being a shootout.
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  Speaker 2: Arizona's offense could definitely keep up with Cincinnati's offense just
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  Speaker 2: because Cincinnati's defense is so bad. But yeah, I'm still
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  Speaker 2: end up going with Cincinnati in this one. I just
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  Speaker 2: think Joe Burrow is gonna make a few good, more
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  Speaker 2: good plays than Jacoby Brissett. I put my money on that,
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with the Bengals and plus in
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  Speaker 2: in the nights. I'm starting True Starr, Michael Wilson, and
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  Speaker 2: Michael Carter.
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  Speaker 1: So oh, you're starting a Cardinals Big three, that's what
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  Speaker 1: you're starting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm going full Fonzo in twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 2: in this one.
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  Speaker 1: So oh, man, dang, I was just a year two earlier.
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  Speaker 1: Even at that I made it. I got third place
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  Speaker 1: in that one.
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  Speaker 2: But man, but instead of Kyler Murray's Chacobe Brissett.
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  Speaker 1: So who would have thought, Josh before the year. If
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  Speaker 1: I would have told you, Hey, Josh, week seventeen, your
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  Speaker 1: lineup's going to be Drey McBride, Michael Wilson, and Michael Carter, what.
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  Speaker 2: Would you have done that?
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  Speaker 1: Fantasy Football champion the Fantasy Football Championship, like like everybody expected.
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  Speaker 1: But give me the bit I told you.
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  Speaker 2: It just seems like I make good moves.
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  Speaker 1: It's destined to be right. You know it's gonna be funny,
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  Speaker 1: Josh and the Dynasty. Your team's gonna go off. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's bound to happen. It's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 2: I know my team.
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  Speaker 1: You know how the script goes.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna it's gonna outscore Breckin and your dad and
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be like, well, third place it is once again.
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  Speaker 1: You you know how the script goes. You know how
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  Speaker 1: the script goes. But all right, next game we have
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  Speaker 1: right here, Pittsburgh Steelers versus SDAR Sanders and the Cleveland Browns,
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  Speaker 1: in which you finally sneeds bless you. But Steelers, they
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  Speaker 1: can't win the AFC North with this game right here.
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  Speaker 1: And what's their favored by three in Cleveland over under
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  Speaker 1: thirty three and a half by far the lowest of
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  Speaker 1: the week. So who are you taking you're gonna do
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  Speaker 1: it now? I'm gonna go with Pittsburgh. You thought about it,
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  Speaker 1: I did think about it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm still thinking about it, But I'm gonna go with Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: I just think they're running game right now is clicking.
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  Speaker 2: Cleveland struggle a little bit the last couple of weeks
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  Speaker 2: versus a run and yeah, I think Aaron Rodgers on
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  Speaker 2: a mission right now. He's not gonna turn do nothing crazy.
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  Speaker 2: They cost his team the football game, and plus he's
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  Speaker 2: Aaron freaking Rodgers. So give me the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the Steelers in this one. Like you're saying,
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  Speaker 1: who would have thought the best running back due and
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  Speaker 1: Week seventeen would be Kenneth gainwoing Jalen Warren, but has
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  Speaker 1: of right now, both them averaging over one hundred yards
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  Speaker 1: a game. And okay, question, say the Steelers miraculously like
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  Speaker 1: make a super Bowl run and like I'm not even
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  Speaker 1: saying win the Super Bowl. Do you think this does
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  Speaker 1: like anything for Aaron Rodgers, like like like all time
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  Speaker 1: wise all time, because like it's kind of its kind
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  Speaker 1: of in a weird spot like where like he's already proven,
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  Speaker 1: but like.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: It's him and Manning an argument at three him Manning
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: in Montana. I mean, I still think that's an argument
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: right now, Like I I think it's.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Like it's like, is it really Like.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: I think Montana is the given three, Like you have
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: to respect the four super Bowls. You have to respect
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: the records he's set at the time. The prolific offense
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: is Brian Walsh, Like you have to you have to
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: respect that. I give that, But I think there's a
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: conversation to be had between him and Manning. Yeah, possibly,
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Like both have the regular season acumen, both have won
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: many many MVPs. But the thing is they both would
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: have two super Bowls and really, do you think there
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: could be a case of like who would you rather
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: have to make a big play or would you rather
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: have to manage the game. And for some reason, I
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: think I kind of lean a little bit towards Aaron
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Rodgers big play. Yeah, so I'm not disrespecting Payon Manning
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: by any means, Like I think pay Manning's a savar
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: a football, but it's just like and he's Manning. He's
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: a Manning, Yeah, for christ sakes. But I don't know
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: if I do think there's a conversation around that four
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: or five spot between Manning and between Aaron Rodgers, And like.
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: All Super Bowls are way to different, Like you could
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: clearly say the Manning, I do think.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: If he wins, there's no conversation between him and far.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: I think there's no conversation right now.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: No, I know, but there's still some truths out there.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: You know that that is true, like they like I
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: will say this like quickly as far as like with
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Paydon Manning, you could tell clearly the last season it
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: was the defense, but like you could say for the
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Steelers this year, the defense has been subpar and like
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has been playing at a top in quarterback level,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Like you could definitively say that insane.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Brady wasn't even throwing the ball like this at this
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: age exactly.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: That's what That's what I'm saying. So like like Brady
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: even with the Bucks he had, again we already know
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: all the cast superstars he.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Had, boy if people forget about that, oh my gosh, yeah,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Chris Godwin, ab Layoff, Lenny, Rob Gronkowski, and they had
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: an O. J. Howard. I know that's done a crazy
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: name right now, but at that at the time it mattered.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: And then Ronald Jones that didn't matter, but oji it matter.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: That was like his best year. Shady was on the
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Shady was a string on the.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Team, yes that white as a fourth string.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: He wasn't on the team yet or he was drafted
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: the next year he was drafted, he wasn't on the
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: team yet. But on the defense, I mean the Donna
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: comes Sue, I mean a Pierald McCoy, Lavonte, David David,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Devin hy Jpp, Carlton, Joan Winfield, Carlton Davis, Mike Edwards. Dude,
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: the list goes on and on. Like that team, that
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: team was insane. That's He's absolutely insane. I feel like
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: we're still missing somebody important for some reason.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Also, yeah, Todd Bowles, that's when he was a masterclass
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I mean Bruce arians was the OC and head coach
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: at the time, like bro.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. But yeah, as far as with this game, yeah,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Steelers are winning this one, and man, I'm going to
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: the next week. You know what, I think the Cowboys
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: are gonna lose this one because remember the formula Chiefs lose,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Cowboys lose equals the Saints win. Because the Saints they
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: go up against the Titans this week and they're two
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: and a half.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: You know, we're rolling with the mother shucker with the
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: mother shuckers. We're a bunch of mother shuckers.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: We're mother shuckers here and Chris Olave's yack, we're here
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: for him right here. But I don't think there's much
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: detail to get into this or did you have something? No, yeah, no,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: there's no not much detail to get into this one.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: But okay, let's get to this day Landers.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I think Red Leonard's gonna play in this next one.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: They said Philip he's gonna start, they said he's gonna see.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: They still think they're They're still rolling out there with him,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: even though it's looking pretty glim. Yeah, that's what they said,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: not that he's the problem. I thought they would just
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: give Redy Leonards some burn you I.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Thought too, And like how he was looking around the stadium,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: but apparently not for the people listening. Coles versus Jaguars
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: this one, Jaguars fired by six and a half over
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: under forty eight and a half. But yeah, no, from
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: what I saw, Philip Rivers is gonna be starting in
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: this one. So you think old man Rivers as an
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: upset in him?
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Nah, I think jackson Jacksonville's gonna win this one.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jacksonville's winning, And like Philip Rivers isn't the problem
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: for this team in all, honest?
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: No? Is it defense? Yeah? The past defense has been
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: pretty bad all season. That's why they That's why they
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: went out and got Sauce. But yeah, Sasa hurt all
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: poor Sauce. Bro Like Bro thought he was about to
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: make the playoffs and make it like no.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Him, Quinn Williams.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: They can never get away from it, Bro, But no, yeah,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: maybe I have a problem. Yeah, I think so they
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: have to be the problem.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: But your various Award has been hurt too for the
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Colts as well.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: So yeah, after the Titan knocked him out, After the
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Titan knocked him out, he hasn't been back. But all right,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: next game we have right here is the Big Show
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: versus the Miami Dolphins right here, in which by five
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and a half all runners forty five and a half
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: in this one. So this is in Miami. Who you're
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: taking a.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Couple of Texas gun slingers going at it in this one,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: but you know, we gotta go at the Big Show
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: seven and eight. Ah. Man, it hurts to say out loud,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: but you know I'm still gonna go with them in
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: this one. I gotta go with the Big Show.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going with the Bake Show because next week
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: they still control their own destiny with Carolina next week.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: So they're they're not gonna look past any game right here,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: in which we're gonna look past this game we have
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: right here. It's the New England Patriots versus the Jets.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: They're favored by thirteen and a half over Runners forty
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: two and a half. What's your score prediction in this
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: one right here? Just weird Patriot The Patriots by a
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: lot I say Patriots thirty eight. I'll give the Jets
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: ten points. I'll give the Jets ten not too bad.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: But all right, this game we have right here, I
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: don't know if you could see some upsets happening right here.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks versus the Carolina Panthers. This is in Carolina.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Seattle's favored by seven over unders forty two and a
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: half in this ballgame. If Carolina wins, they do clinch
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the NFC South, so they they can avoid the Buccaneers
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the last week of the season. So any upset bruin here.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: No, because they can't avoid Sam Donald and Jayson in
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: this one. So yeah, give me the Seattle Seahawks to
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: win this win, and I think they win by two touchdowns.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Seattle. I okay, I think it's gonna
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: be a close game in the first half, like there's gonna.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Be I agree, But I think you know, Jaysen is
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: a fourth quarter guy, you know, So Jay is in.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: He doesn't start playing until there's eight minutes left in
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: the ball game.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Nah, that boy. Sometimes he starts playing with there's eight
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: seconds in the ballgame, like.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Eight minutes left. One of one of the two No Okay,
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: as far as this next game, we have right here,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: the battle of who will hold the number one overall.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Pick right here, New York Giants versus the Las Vegas Raiders.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Raiders are favored by one and a half in Vegas
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: over Runners forty one and a half. Who are you taking?
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go with the Raiders in this one.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: I just felt like you.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like after seeing after seeing Ashton jenc if
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: he was able to do versus the Texans last week,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I think it's a lot more confidence. And I don't know,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: I just feel like this is a game where the
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Raiders are gonna Max Cross. He's gonna do something big
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: in this game, where he's gonna recavoc on that on
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: that offensive line that New York has, And it just
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: feels like a Raiders game to win. Yeah, I just
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: it just feels like a Raiders game to win right now.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: So I'm giving the Raiders.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: See, I was hoping you'd pick Jackson Dard and the
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Giants because I saw again, if anybody has genty in
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: the championship, this is the week you're gonna see something.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, even down the point and I.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Literally have gent in the championship, so.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: So yeah, he's gonna go insane. But all right, as
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: far as these next two games, they're gonna be pretty
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: good games right here, which they have playoff stakes right here.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles versus the Buffalo Bills, in which the Bills
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: are favored by one and a half at home over
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: runners forty three and a half right here, So Eagles,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: if they win, they barely keep their one seed hopes alive,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and then the Bills could hang on to the AFC
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: East potential title versus the Patriots. So who you're taking
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: in this one?
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, give me Buffalo in this one. I think Josh
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Allen and James Cooker gonna go absolutely berserved versus the
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Bills are gonna win this one,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: and clearly because the Bills they have Josh Allen, the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Eagles they have Jaalen hurt. Sometimes that's just what it
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: falls down to in these games. And I don't see
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: no Snow or nothing particularly in this game. But I
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna matter, just like you're saying in
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Yeah, But like again, snow quarterback, we already
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: know who the best is in the snow. It's the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: one that actually is playing right now. The other one
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: he's sidelined. He's sidelined for break break maybe a year
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: or so.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: But yeah, hopefully it sits out next season too.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: He needs to sit out next season, which I don't know.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I've been saying, like Russell Wilson, I've been seeing like
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson to the to the Chiefs. You know who
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I want to sis to the Chiefs. I've been seeing
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: like you know.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I want to see he went to Florida State and
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: won a Heisman. I would love to see that guy.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I would love to see him in the Chiefs unifor yes, yes,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Jordan Travis oh Man, No, Jordan Travis feels so good.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I would love to see Jamis Jamis in.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: A Kansas Jamis and Andy Reid.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: They would not coexist like I would. I'ld be there
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: to see that chaos. But as far as the Sunny
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: night football game, we have right here. So both teams
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: right here, Chicago Bears and the Niners, both eleven and four,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: both still have a path to the one seed. Very clearly.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: They went out and they have over a forty chance
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: to win the one seed. So this in San France,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: and San France favored by three over runners fifty two
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: and a half, so they're expecting a lot of points
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: on this board, second highest of the week. Who are
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: you taking?
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna have to go with San Fran
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: in this one. I just feel like this defense and
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Robert Sala they're gonna make a couple stops against the
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Chicago Bears team. And I just feel like Brock Prety
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: look terrific in that last one getting the ball down
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: the field, and I just feel like, dude, George Kittle
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: look good, Christian McCaffrey looks good, and they're really The
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Bears know that they're gonna make the playoffs. But I
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: think San Francisco, knowing that they literally just have to
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: win out to get that number one seed, they're gonna.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: I think they're gonna do it. So yeah, give me,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: give me the San Francisco.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: You know I can't go up against baby o here.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: You know I can't go up against baby goat here.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I don't care if San Fran They've had all these
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: injurests and still look like one of the most dominant teams.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: If Kyle Shanahan is putting on a coaching masterclass. But
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: you know who they don't have, Josh. They don't have
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Baby Goat. That's who they don't have. They don't have
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Baby Goat. And I'll tell you this, the Niners defense
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: defense looked very fishy last week. I think it kind
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: of went under the water because how dominant their offense was.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: But Ben Johnson has created the best run game in
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: the NFL by far, and they'll keep Rock Party off
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the field. Well, he'll have to play perfect football. And
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I think Caleb again, if you want to look at
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: the box score, just go read stats, go read all
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: these books and everything. I want you to watch a
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: game and watch what Caleb Williams is about to do
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: in this game. He's gonna have three or four throws
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: in this game where it's gonna change the entire outlook.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: And that's why I'm taking the Bears. And this is
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be our only disagreement of the week because
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: this last game is a Rams versus the Falcons right here.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: And with the Rams, they're gonna need some help to
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: get the one seed. They'll need Seattle to slip up,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and then the Niners somehow to slip up this game
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: right here, but they need to win out first to
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: try to get the one seed, and they're faired by
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: seven and a half against the Falcons over unders forty
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: nine and a half. Who are you taking?
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Give me Los Angeles, Bro, that's it.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, give me the Rams in this one after a
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: game they should have won last week. But our only
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: disagreements is Chicago and San France. So it's gonna come
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: down to Sunday night. You know what, if the Bears win,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: give me a Caleb Williams jersey. No, I'm kidding, No, no, no,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't. Or let me ask
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: you that. Would you ever rock another team's jersey NFL
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: or No, no, no, you're more of a game No, you're
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: more of an NBA fan. Would you rock another NBA
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: team's jersey? Because I know you're a big you, you
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: would really rock.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Let me see, out of all players, I would rock
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: a MAX team right now on jersey.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: That is that is a crazy pool. That is so disgusting. Josh,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: you've been playing today, Bro, You have been playing NBA
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: hoop greens.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Today is my French collection, Bro, this is the French collection. Dude,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: it's so weird how I became like a French basketball fan, Like,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: so weird. You're just starting. I just ordered to zacharateris
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Rica che Auto from Top Chrome that just came out.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: I just yeah, I've been trying to get my hands
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: on some maxims, but they're pretty expensive right now because
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: he's a rookie. I've been trying to get some ger
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Sean's from his rookie year on the Celtics. Yeah, so
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I've been Yeah.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Dude, that is that is insane. Broaches, You're you're the
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: French would rock.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I would low key rock the like the Sar Washington
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: Wizards blue Jersey.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: D you would rock a Alex Sar Jersey.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: I'm like, sorry, no, no vaccine right now, it's right
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: on cute maxine or not. In ger Sean you was selly,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: That's who I would rock. I mean, if I can't
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: work rock up boards dat bobcatch Jersey, then I don't
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: want to wear it.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I don't want to wear.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: You can players.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't be I'd rock a mam Move jersey.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Bro No, I mean I can't. I can't use MAMU
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Like I know, if you couldn't.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Use Mama, but I'd rock a mam.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Move Jersey, brouh, what about Yeah, Max seem right now
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: was the first one that I thought about, Like, yeah,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: I would rock a Maxim Jersey. I knew he was
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: gonna be great. I wanted the Spurson drafting. I wanted
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: the s person draft him where they drafted Carter Bryant.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: You you you know I mean, I mean, I like
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Carter Bryant. I'm just saying, like, like before I thought
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: we would beat Carter Bryant. I wanted Maxim right there.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, you Who's Jersey. I'd rock Derek Queen Jersey.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I would rock a Derek Queen Jersey.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I already do.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: David, You're gonna say something in the comments, But all right, guys,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: if you guys haven't to or you guys haven't told Jeez,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I can't speak right now. We are moving on to NBA,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: So thank you for anybody listening. From the NFL side.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Moved on to the NBA, in which Josh I missed
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: you last week. You were here for like fifteen minutes
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: and then your camera decided to dip, and then you
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: just couldn't join back because technical issues. But let's go
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: in and talk about tonight's game right here, and which
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: you kind of mentioned it before with the Spurs and
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: the Thunder, and which this is the biggest loss of
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Thunders have had throughout the entire year, in which I
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: can't pull up the final score right now for some reason,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: but I know you know it in your heart.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one thirty.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: So what what what'd you see tonight from the Spurs?
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I was telling Fons up before the pod. My
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: brother texted me a picture. I sent me a picture
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty twelve playoffs where it was the
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Spurs versus the Oklahoma See Thunder, and he says, where
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: did it all go? I said, what do you mean, bro?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: It's here right now. It's here right now. The San
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Antonio Spurs are for real. Sure, you could say they
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: beat the Thunder the first time. Okay, they just had
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: a better day. Well, when you show up and put
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: bta to the Oklahoma City Thunder in the fourth quarter
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: in another game where they have another opportunity to see
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: you for a second time and you beat them by
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: twenty their biggest deficit of the season, you have a
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: right to say that you've arrived because the San Antonino
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Spurs are not a team of the future. Like I
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: said last podcast, They're not a team a couple of
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: years down the line. Well, like I said last week,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: they're the only hope right now to beat the I
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: think to beat the Oklahomas and he Thunder in a
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: seven game series, because, like I said, Ryan didn't watch
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: the game, but he says, it looks like Shaye was
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: the only one that wanted to show up. Only one
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: wanted to play. Nah, they all wanted to play. They
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: all look angry out there, But it just doesn't matter.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: When you got three guards that you can't guard off
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: the dribble at all, that you have to send double
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: teams for, and you know who else you have to
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: send triple teams for freaking Victor women Yama, while you
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: got shooters like Julian Champagne and Devin Vessel ready catches
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: you at all times. Harrison Barnes, mister one, it does
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: not matter because the Spurs play bully transition basketball and
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: they play tough defense no matter what whether it be
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Luke Cornett or Victor Wimenyama on the court. The Spurs,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I think they respect the Thunder and who they are
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: because they say they're the team, they're the team that
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: we have to beat. We all have the same aspirations
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: to win a championship. But just say if they fear
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the Oklahoma City Thunder, they have no fear when it
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: comes to playing the Oklahoma City Thunder. Because look at
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: what barn Harrison, Barnes and Kelden Johnson were doing to
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Chet home grin this entire game. They made him look
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: like baby food down low. He he could he could
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: not handle them at all. He was jumping for every pump,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: fake every little thing, taking shoulders to the chest, flying everywhere.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: And you know what. I know, Victor w Minyama got
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: a foul on this play, but I think it meant
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: a lot more than what meets the eye when you
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: watch blindly. When Chet Holmgren comes to guard him on
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: the outside at the three point line, puts his body
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: on him, what does Victor Womanyama do. Proceeds to throw
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: an elbow, pushes him on the ground, and then goes
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: through a windmill dunk after the whistle has been blown.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: It wasn't just that, Hey, I'm gonna play through this
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: because maybe I can get a score. I'm gonna play
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: through this because I want to look flashy. No, it's
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: it was more of you're not even on my level, bro,
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Like you have no business guarding me, Like look at
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: what I can do and look at where you're at.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I think that's what Victor Wimbanyama was making a statement
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: in that alone. He he Chit Holmgren when he's down low,
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Victor woman Yama attacked. We saw what he did when
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: he went did the up and under on chet Homegren,
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: face up. When chet Holmgren faces victory and Minyama on
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: the other side, he runs the other direction. They are
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: not the same. They are not the same. It's all
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: catch and shoot threes for chet Holmer when it comes
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: to playing Victor. When Benyama, he can't even score on
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Luke Cornett. That's the crazy part about it too. So yeah,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I think the Spurs are here to stay. They got shooters.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: And the crazy part is in both matchups versus the Oklaho,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Thunder, the Spurs have had their worst three
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: point shooting knights of the entire season. In both of
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: those matchups. They have missed consistently in the first half alone,
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: five for nineteen from the three, five for nineteen from
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: the three. When the Spurs are consistently have the best
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: corner three point shooter in the entire bay. He went
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: oh for eight and three pointers the first matchup, first
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: first half. He went oh for five in this one.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: So he he they he Once Harrison Barnes gets going,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: that's another three point shooter. Once Jillian Champagne gets going
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: to the three point shooter, and what's and what's Devin
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Veselk finally gets that hot streak going. He's one of
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: the hardest people to stop. He gets on his streaks
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: because he can. He can face up with anybody and
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: makes tough shot after tough shot. But the biggest thing
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: is is the depth the San Antonio Spurs depth. I
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: was telling one of my one of my clients is
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: while watching the game, the thunder have bodies, They have
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: guys that that can come out and make shots. But
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: the thing that they lack is ball handlers. When it
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: comes to that depth, they don't have constant guys that
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: can create pressure and create their own shot. It's all
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: created by SGA and maybe like aj Mitchell when he
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: was playing. When he's playing, but with the San Antonio Spurs.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: You have Devin Masel, you have killed In Johnson, you
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: have Dearon Fox, you have Stefan Castle, you have Dylan Harper,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: you have even Harrison Barnes himself, who can all create
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: for themselves but are on selfish and move the ball around.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: That's a scary part about the San Antonio Spurs. It's
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: not just one man that's gonna eat at times. Ten
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: guys deep will give you ten plus. And that's the
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: scary part about the San Antonio Spurs. And the fact
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: that they probably have the six men of the year
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: right now, and Keldon Johnson coming off the bench, who
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: just dropped twenty off the bench in this one and
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: was a major part in keeping them in the game
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: the last time they played. It's pretty scary right now.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: So I think what's really even the scariest part about
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: this is that Wimby. I know, I know he's not
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: being yeah twenty minutes. Yeah, he's only playing twenty minutes
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: as of right now, and that's gonna be that's gonna
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: be even scarier. It's just like you're saying, I wouldn't
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: say I was a skeptic. I was saying as far
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: as their title contention right now. That's where I was
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: skeptical about because again I talked about as far as
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I want to see them in a playoff series, and
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: I know it's not fair because this is a regular season.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: We're talking Spurs in the playoffs in December, which he
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: expectations like yeah, he's thunder, and Spurs games are not
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: just some like yeah, they're not just like no normal games.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: And I think it's gonna go up another level in
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: the Christmas game, which I know we might prediction that
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: way in Oklahoma City, so that that's gonna be interesting
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: right there. I want to see that because okay.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I know this. So if the Spurs walk into Oklahoma
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: City and win in Oklahoma City three, and oh.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I would I would still say as far as like overall, no,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: I still think they're overall better, but they're Honestly, I
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: don't think I would.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think I would say they're overall better. I don't.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: I don't think they know you. I don't think I
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: would right now. I still say it because I respect
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: SGA enough and I respect what they have done. But
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: if they go three, you know, if they go zero
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: and three to the San Antonio Spurs to start this
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: season and they drop to they lose five games, the
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Spurs are only two games behind them. The game is
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: it's a lot thinner now. It's a lot thinner now.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: And I'll say this. I'll say this as far as
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: with the Thunder like, even if they do lose Christmas Day,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go crazy, I know, Josh, I'm gonna
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: still say I'll say this as far as with the Spurs.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: This is like without like listing the top five title
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: contenders for the year. I think after this game right here. Again,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: it's early, but sometimes you just see things and you
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: just know they're for sure have at least top five
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: title expectations entering the playoffs among any team Eastern Western
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Conference that goes for New York Oka see Denver if
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: you want to throw maybe the Rockets in there, because
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: they're traded for Kevin Durant in New York. Ye there, yeah, Detroit.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: I would say the Spurs their top five minimum or
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: top three. You could say if Okac somehow gets knocked
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: out by Denver in a second round series and the
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Spurs happen to face maybe the Suns as if I
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: know who the seventh seed and then the Rockets.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Something like that, Los Angeles.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Lakers. The Lakers, they don't have
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: no athletic guys.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Not only I'm saying, you know what, those teams don't
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: want to see the Spurs if they play them in
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: seven game series?
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. So that's gonna be interesting right there.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: I'll I'll say that, yes, Bronni, Yes, I'm talking about Ronnie.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Most athletic player on the Lakers right now, the G
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: League Lakers.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: But okay, I.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Want to ask you about this right here, the Houston Rockets,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: in which they just lost to the Pelicans, the Clippers tonight,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: and they lost to the Kings, all in a span
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: of a week. So I want to ask you about this.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Are you worried about the Rockets long term?
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I think I think I'm not. I'm not too worried
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: about them making the playoffs. I think they're gonna be
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: in there. But the thing is, I I feel like
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: some of these teams that we're looking at, let's look
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: at the Houston Rockets and look at the Los Angeles Lakers.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Like us when we look at the Rockets, I feel
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: like I love Seng Gooon. I love Seng Gooon a
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: lot as a player. But the thing is, I think
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: down the stretch, when it matters the most, he's handling
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: the ball too much. Like I think there's a point
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: that the great players have learned when playing with Kevin
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Durant is that you just got to give Kevin Durant
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: the ball when it matters the most on offense, because
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Segun's a good defender and he's good on all We
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: know what he is offensively, but when it comes to
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: getting a shot fast at will, there's no better player
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: in the history of basketball. It's arguable. You know, you
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: have your Jordan's, you have your you have your Lebron's,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: you have your James Hardens, you have all these type
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: of guys, you have your Tracy mcgrady's, but Kevin Durant
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: is up there with each and every single one of them,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: if not more. You have to differ in these given moments.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: And I do think that also the experiment with Aman
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Thompson handling the ball and not in the same extent
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: because he is better than Jeremy's sohan, but there's some
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: growing pains when it comes to doing that, Like you're
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: not gonna have a consistency on offense because he's still
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: trying to learn how to function the offense. And as
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: far as re Shipped, it's the same way as well.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: We gotta think this is his first real playing time,
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: like this is first real playing time within the system
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: as the lead point guard. And to be honest, I
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: don't think coming into this into his career, we thought
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: he was gonna be a true point guard. Like I
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: think we always thought he was gonna he was a
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: two guy, that tweener, that tweener that can handle the rock.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: But it's gonna be mainly a shooter, kind of what
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Fred van Fleet was just open his career before he
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: started developing more of a passing sensibility. But with both
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: those guys, you're still learning a lot. And plus I
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: don't think they're that great at three point shooting, like
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: as a whole, like, I don't think they can keep up.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I think they can't keep up with a lot of
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: the teams that are able to shoot. And I think
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: that's the problem because it's either Kevin Durant or bust
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: from the outside. Because Aman as as good as he is,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: that's that's one of his worst traits that he has
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: on offense is at shooting the three ball, and Sengoon
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: a good three point shooter but not a great three
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: point shooter, and the other guys around him, I mean,
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: it's just a bunch of taller guys that we know
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: a lot of taller guys struggle to shoot the three.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: So right now, I think they're lacking shooting and ball handling,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: and when it comes to finishing out the games, Katie
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: doesn't have the ball in his hands, and that is
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: a problem.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, like you're saying, it's definitely the growing pains,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: and I think they know they're such a talented team,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: even in as maybe it's not as stacked of a
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Western conference as it was years priors. Again, this is
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: barely early two months into basketball, but they could get
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: away with this Amen Thompson experiment right here, and I
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: think this will help down the stretch whenever it comes
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: to April and May basketball, whenever they're going to have
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: to depend on Amen Thompson, and I think why he
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: could be. They're okay, it's good right now what they're
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: doing with Amen Thompson, but it's kind of holding him
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: back because they have it at the point where he
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: could function in this offense. Totally fine as an non
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: shooter because they could spread the floor without him. But
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I think eventually they're gonna need to get to the
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: fact where it's like, no, I'm in Thompson. It's like,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: you're gonna need to be able to make these open shots.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Like as far as whenever somebody is five feet away
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: from him and more, you know his percent, as far
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: as knocking down those threes, for it's fourteen percent. Oh
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: it is Christmas Eve, No, but yeah, fourteen percent as
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: far as knocking down the threes. And I don't know
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: the exact stats, and I this is just off the
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: top of the head. Whenever you're an open guy and
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: you shoot as many attempts as I'm and Thompson, you
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: should be in forty five fifty percent when you're wide
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: open from the corner. So even if he gets it up,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: this is crazy. If he gets it up to thirty
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: thirty five percent, this would instantly become one of the
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: best offenses in the leader.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, isn't that the same? Okay, I'm sorry to
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: go back to the spurs, Like, isn't that the same?
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Like kind of green light argument that Stefan Castle was
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: making last year when they were just kind of just
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: letting him jack up threes to get because the shooting
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: form was there, he just wanted him to get more
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: reps in And the same as Victory ben Yama his
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: rookie year, you know, he really wasn't like a consistent
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: three point shooter. But when year two came around, they
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: were like, all right, just pull it whenever you want to,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: you know, and we saw him shooting up to thirteen threes.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Ninth he was averaging niney threes per Yeah, and look
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: at him now, like you don't have no doubts about
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: when Victor Gama pulls up from three, if he's gonna
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: make it more often times you're gonna think he's gonna
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: make it. And look at Stephan Castle now tonight alone,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Stephan Castle from three went four from six in mote
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: in important moments. I do think that the Aman Thompson experiment,
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: like we are saying the reps have to get done,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: you know, the reps, the reps, the rep he's it's
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: just a matter of but practice makes perfect. But also
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: if you're still only shooting fourteen percent come after all
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Star breaks, we got a problem.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: That's gonna be a problem. Yeah, But I think Ameyadoka
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: he's smart enough to know that he can. I feel
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: like he's kind of given these young a chance right now,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: especially since Kevin Durant is so much older. Right now
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: is the time to say, here's the keys to the offense.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, You're gonna average your efficient twenty five on
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: thirteen shots or however many it takes. We're gonna let
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: these young guys get the workload. So whenever they need
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: this late in the season, late stretch, whenever you need
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: them the most, that's when they're gonna step up. Like
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: defense still isn't the problem for him. And I know
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: we talked about as far as Chris Paul, but I'm
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: telling you, I'm really starting to like as far as
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: if they could somehow salvage a trade like with James
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Harden without giving up any of their young assets, like
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: it would be. I think they'd have to be one
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: of the top three with the Spurs, okay see, and
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: then the Rockets would instantly be there.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: So I think James Harden is gonna be on the move.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: I think I think that's a big So that's eventually
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: gonna happen to some contenter that needs point guard help,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: because James Harden can still get you twenty at will
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: he given night, but he's also going to get you
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: twelve assists, Like he's also going to get you eleven
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: assists and that and I think the ball around h no,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: but do you think that real quick, do you think
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: that having James Harden would be a detriment to Reach
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Shepherd's development as a point guard, Like, I think that's
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: one thing. That's why there would be a hesitation on
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: it as well, because he's still so raw as a
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: prospect when it comes to handling the basketball.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I think the Rockets they're in, they're one of the
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: few situations like the Spurs of Thunder, were there a
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: perfect measure like you're saying of like both young, both
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: old or even if they make a splash trade, it
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: won't be a detriment to the core guys, Like it
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: won't be a detriment to Aman Thompson, alburn Sengoon won't
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: be to the detriment to those guys the Spurs what
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: you're saying, like.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: We've seen We've seen Chris Paul play next to Steph
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: and Steph played the two. We've seen Chris Paul play
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: next to uh SGA and SGA played the two and
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: look at them now, so it's kind of like, I gain,
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I get what you're saying as well.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so okay, kind of on the Clippers talk, I
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: don't I don't want to talk about the Clippers forever,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: but I just want to say a sneaky trade name
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: down the stretch of each of Zuboch good contract, one
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: of the best singers in the league. So I think, okay,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: this makes sense from both sides. I thought about it.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to ask you beforehand of eacha Zubac
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: to the Warriors. Okay, yeah, where Zubac goes to the
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Warriors instantly feels their need. Right. The Clippers draft picks,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: they not the draft picks. That's where it's important post Steph.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: I want twenty thirty draft picks the post Steph Era,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: so you get the potentially top picks, and then Clippers
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: they're just trying to honestly just revamp everything.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: So we're obviously, yeah, we're sending Quentin Post obviously.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: And then i'd say two first round picks to.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Where I think maybe two or three. Like I think
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: if it's a Zuboch value right now. He's a really
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: good player, like I I he's like he's he's an
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: immediate like push to a contender, like over like over
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: the top, like if we're being honest, like go bear
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: for Zubotch right now? Do the Timberwolves really like say
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: no to that if it gets offered to them? And
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: plus offensively, Zuboch will offer you so much more and
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: picking and pick and roll situations and free throws and
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: everything that matters pretty much offensively compared to Gobert. But
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: as far as the Warriors standpoint, I feel like that's
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: a move you kind of have to make, Like I I,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna have if you want the window now
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: for Steph unless they're finally realizing, dang, we messed up.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: We waited too long. But also, if that's a movie,
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: you want to capitalize on Steph right now with Jimmy
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Butler's right now with Draymond right now, Zubotch the guy
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: to go to because he can guard. He can guard
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: any center in the NBA except for a Victor Winbin
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Yama because he can't really stretch to the five. Yeah,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: but I mean he guard does very well, you know,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying, Like that's about saying he can.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: He does very well against Nikola jokicch he obviously you can't,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: like we always say, you can only slow down a player,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: you can't stop him. But he's one of the better
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: people as slowing down Nikola Jokic, and plus what he
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: can offer in a pick and roll situation with step
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: with Stephen Curry and even Jimmy Butler as well when
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: he handles the basketball. I do think that's a really important,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: a good move for the Golden State wards that they
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: were to make that. And I know you're giving up
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: that future draft capital. I'll put you in an NBA
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: purgatory once that's twenty thirty years around, because you're just
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: gonna be a Los Angeles Clippers, a Los Angeles Clippers reincarnated.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: But I mean that's that's you have.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: To capitalize on a top five history.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to capitalize right now. But the thing
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: is they're not even close.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I don't even think the top yeah yeah after that,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: they're not even close. After that, Like so Steph would
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: have to be going nuclear, Jimmy Butler go nuclear, And Okay,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: I know it's not like a big segment segment or
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: like something we need to talk about.
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles should go back and get their guy. They
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: should just go back and get Zoobach. I mean, but
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: they should just go.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Back and get Honestly, yeah, but okay, very quick in
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: the block. One more time, Draymond Green, because Okay, I
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: heard it on a podcast, like people saying about a
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago when I started like prep like
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: we're starting to get ready for NBA, and people are like,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Draymond Green, he really isn't like up to the same
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: value as he once used to be. And watching him
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: now now that I'm watching more consistently basketball games throughout
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: the week, Draymond Green is like losing that step. So like,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: obviously Draymond and Steph that was like one of the
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: best duels in the league. So Draymond's getting worse. Jimmy Butler,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: we already know how he is in the regular season
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: for some reason, and I don't know why. So it's
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: just Steph Curry, that's all it is. Like that's that's
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: really all it is. And it's just it's just disappointing
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: to see. In all honesty, it's It's disappointing to see.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I just feel like there wasn't correct moves
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: being made with this team while he was still in
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: his prime. You held on to Klay Thompson even through
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: the injuries hurts you. You held on a Dymond. I
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: think you've spoiled the value James Wiseman. Yes, you waited
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: too long to move him. Even that draft pick. Who
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: did they pass up on for James Wiseman are?
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: I mean?
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean Maye Lamelow might look a little different,
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Stephen Kurry, you know so? And then yeah, you just
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: didn't capitalize on a lot of things that you could have.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: They they wasted some draft picks. Brandon Posiemski, as good
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: as he is, he's getting times he's very inconsistent. Yeah,
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: very inconsistent and cannot handle the basketball. You made some
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: moves for a lot of veterans that I mean, honestly,
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Ol Warford at the time maybe look good, but right
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: now you're probably like Dank, we could have made some
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: bigger some bigger splashes. But yeah, I just think Golden
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: State wasted wasted time. I think they just wasted too
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: much time holding on to a to a nucleus that
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: just they didn't look like like it would work after
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Clay started going down with the jury multiple years in
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: a row.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: They were they were trying to do what the Rockets,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Thunder and Spurs are actually able to do right now,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: or they could both contend but keep their young guys
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: at the same time. They were trying to do that,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: but in Jordan.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Poole, Like, yeah, they should have never got rid of
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Jordan Poole, if by being completely honest, they should have
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: never moved off of him.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like he.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Would be easily their number two scorer right now, like
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: like there's no questions about it.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. And oh man, it's just I
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: just wanted to talk about the Warriors real quick, because man,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: it's it's been bad. But okay, I don't know if
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: there's any Eastern or Western Conference teams before we get
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: into ease or actually, let me ask you about this
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: Cooper flag. Cooper Flag is breaking records, like as he
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I see one thing every single week, youngest blah blah
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: blah to do this, youngest blah blah blah, to do this, this, this, this, this,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: and this and this as of right now, in my opinion,
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: he is over exceeding expectations because I did not expect
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: him to be the.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: No he is.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: He's over overreaching mine as well. Like what was the
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: one thing main thing we said? We knew he was
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: going to be this defensive monster, Like we knew he
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: was going to be the specimen that he is. He's
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: already so tall and lengthy, and he's at uper athletics,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: So we knew that he was going to be really
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: good defensively. But did we expect the offense to cat
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: so fast? No, we didn't, none of us did. Like
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: where he's dropping forty seven and eight already at the
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: age of eighteen, at the age of eighteen years old, Yeah,
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: nineteen years old. It's absolutely insane to watch because to
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: think about it, he should be a college freshman right now,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: Like we're being overall if Yeah, we're being completely honest,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Like he should be in college with Cameron Boozer playing
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: for the Duke Blue Devils right now. But but I
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: mean him and Konkanopa, we're pretty damn good.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: But see how which he dropped tonight versus the Nuggets.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: He dropped thirty three nine and nine fourteen.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: He looks like a man that's on Afreid right now,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Like he just looks like a guy that's just hooping
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: and he's getting he's playing the best of his ability.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: And I do think, honestly, bro Like being coached by
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: Jason Kidd does a lot for you. I think you're
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: understanding and seeing the game a lot differently through the
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: lens of one of the greatest point guards of all time.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: And I know eighty's been in and out, but eighty
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: when he does play with Cooper Flag, it's really opened
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: up a lot of things for him and it's taking
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: a lot of pressure away from him, especially pulling away
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: defenders because you still have to respect who Ady is
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: as one of the best players of all time on
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: both sides of the basketball. That Cooper Flag, a lot
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: of things are freeing up for him. And it's not
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: like there's Klay Thompson, PJ. Washington. There's a lot of
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: guys around him that have been there before, in our
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: good veterans, and they're just letting him cook. And it
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: just looks amazing to see. And Okay, gomes back, how
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: much less pressure is going to be on him.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, as crazy as this sounds, because we talked about
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: the MAVs, like major struggling. I'm not even like trying
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: to exaggerate when I say this, but whenever Ryan Nimhard
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: actually starting to get PT for the MAVs, it's like
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Cooper flag On Harn's nice. Yeah, like whenever he got
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: himself a decent point guard, a decent point guard. Like,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say Ryan Nimhart.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: This next we was that thing ne were doing with
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: Wimby when Trey Jones started starting, like he started like
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: he started like going crazy his rookie year like it. Yeah,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: they were doing the experiment with Jamie Sehan and all
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: these other things, and then they were like, all right,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: let's put Trey Jones, and immediately it was a totally
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: different Wimby. Like point guards matter.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: People, Yeah, point guard Like he's almost averaging to assist
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: to turnover ratio as a rookie, as a rookie, Like
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: this is insane what he's doing. Like so nineteen points,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: six rebounds, almost four assists, one still in one block
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: a game.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: That great numbers. Great numbers, those.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Are those are great numbers. And like if this scoring
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: pop continues, like they just beat the Denver Nuggets to
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: night and Cooper Flag dropped thirty three and looked like
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: he looked up there like I wasn't. I'm not gonna
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: say he was like Jokic, but like he was putting
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: up his own against the heavyweights of the Nuggets.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: So Dylan Harper has been amazing. I love Dylan Harper,
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: but dude, imagine if Flag just the Spurs had one
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: more pick number do this? Imagine the defense just like
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: the defense. Oh my gosh, but no, Harper's him ten assists,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: zero turnovers off the bench.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Dog. I can only imagine Cooper Flag how he's playing
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: like this with the MAVs. Imagine the Spurs.
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: Now, dude, with Steph at the one playing defense, darreon
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Fox playing defense, and then you have Cooper Flag and
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: Devin Basel. Dude, I mean, I mean, it's like putting
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: Dylan Harper right there as the same exact conversation, but
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, but you know what I mean, Like,
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: it's just just the standpoint of a defensive acumen as
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: as the best starting five put together. Oh my gosh,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: that defense, dude, you think it's bad right now? Versus
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: the thunder, they would have beat the thunderblat thirty five.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it would have it would have been much worse.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: But okay, any any other team in the Western Conference
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: you want to talk about right now?
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not that. I feel like the Memphis Grizzlies, Like
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: how long are we holding onto Ja Morant? Like, like
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: how much longer is this experiment? Is not this experiment?
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: How much longer is this era going to continue? Like
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: they're doing good without him. You can tell they have
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: these young guys that that are playing very well. Zach
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Edy is making me eat my words from when he
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: attracted even though even though injuries are going to be
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: the detriment to his career, which we all understand the
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: height wise, he's not everyone could be Victor wim Binama
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: when it comes to freak athleticism and you know, like
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: it's just it's just the truth that that size like
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: with him, and like Chet and Wimby are anomalies when
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: it comes to just being able to even Chet's been
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: injured though, But if we look at zach Edy, dude,
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: what he's been able to do, like just defensively on
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: pick and roll situations, He's developed a really strong game
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: down low, Like it's not just bodying people and turning
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: around and he's post. He has some post moves, dude,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: and it looks it looks very good. And Cedric Coward, bro,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: I think that's a guy. I don't. I really don't
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: know if we talked about him last week last week,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: but dude, they I think that's a guy they need
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: to build around. He's looking like Kawi. He's looking a lot.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: He's looking a lot like Kawhi Leonard. Like he he
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: isn't Kawhi Leonard. We don't. That's that's that's some high
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: high levels to reach early on. Looking at him, offensively,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: he's better than Kawhi came in. But he has the
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: same almost exact size. Obviously, no one's gonna have the
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: same hands as Kawhi Leonard. That's just a freak thing
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: that he has. But defensively he can guard. Offensively, he
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: can create his own and plus you just have guys
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: around him like Jalen Wells three and d He's able
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: to do what he needs to do. And I Santy
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: ald as much as like people don't know that name.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: If you don't Santi Aldama, he's pretty damn good at
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: basketball as well himself.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: So I Cam Spencer like Spencer, Cam Spencer.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Like this team, they're very competitive. They're competitive in almost
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: every game they play. It's just, dude, move John Morant,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: go get some picks, bro. But the thing is, who's
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: gonna take on John Morant? Nobody, probably nobody, nobody, probably
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: know in the entire NBA. Yeah, Like, I don't think
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: there's a single team in this league that would go
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: move for John Moran.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, nobody's gonna say I'm missing John Morant for
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: my team to make to make a playoff push. Like
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: I feel like, I don't know, if you don't want
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: to talk about it. Like Trey Young, I feel like
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: him and him and Trey Young are in the same boat,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: like where their play styles do not change, and nobody
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: who's actually contending for a playoff spot or even championship
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: hopes are gonna blow up their entire roster.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: And Okay, I don't think Younger in the same boat.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think Okay, I mean I think Trey Young
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: were to go to like the Houston Rockets. If he
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: were to go to the Houston Rockets, dude, the thing, okay,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: hear me out, Trey Young would not have defense on
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: the Rockets. You But but Trey Young would not have
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: to play defense on the Rockets like they're like he
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: would be able to. Yeah, but I'm just saying offensively,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: imagine him running picking rolls with singoon or even I'm
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: a single, it's more of a one on one player.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: I kind of take that out. Yeah, but I mean, like,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, imagine him being able to filter out to
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: open guys and shooting wide open threes. I feel like
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: that would be a really I know it's a match
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: made in heaven obviously, but that's Tray Young. I think
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: Trey Young put John Morant on the Rockets. I think
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: that the Rockets are in the same boat they're in
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: right now, Like, okay, you put Trey Young on the Rockets.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: I think Trey Young elevates them to a different level.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, before it gets put out a context, I'm
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: not saying John Ran and Trey Young are on the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: same level. But I'm talking about Trey Young is obviously better.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying as far as like, both of those
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: guys have their own unique play style where I feel
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: like they can't adapt. Like the Rockets, that's the only
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: team I could realistically look at and say, Okay.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: The Clippers get desperate.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: And trade for John Morant. Do not put that man
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: in La. Do not put that man in La or Chicago.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Bro Honestly, that would be a minister.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: John Moran's the ugliest star that there's and there was
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: points where people were trying to make him. We're trying
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: to make him the face of the least, you know.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: So he was fine in the West. He was fine
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: in the West, fine in the West. Fine ever since
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: that day, ever since it went downhill. And Okay, as
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: far as with the Grizzlies, I think they need to
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: trade away both Jaron Jackson and John Morant, but both
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: of them contract triple.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: J has value, is good. He can shoot the three,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: he can stretch the floor. I mean, we know what
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: he is defensively, Like at times he's very he's very
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: soft on offense. I will say, yeah, he kind of
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: goes into these places where he's not nowhere to be seen.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: But defensively we know who he is, you know. So
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: I I do think there's a lot of teams that
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: could really use some Jaron Jackson Jr. To push them
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: over the top.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so too.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: So, like.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: You have to get Jaron Jackson Junior out of there
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: and just like go with the complete rebuild of the
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: young guys. Let the young. If you're gonna let these
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: young guys get all this burn, might as well make
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: it exact. Don't be like the Sacramento Kings where it's
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: it's do.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: You think general triple triple J to the Hornets?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: I mean that's really the same spot, Like he's.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think it is. I don't think it is.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think it is. I think they're really I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: think the Hornets are fun to watch, Bro, Like I
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: don't know, I know they are the watch because I
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: think Lamelow. No, no, not because of because of Brandon
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Miller and con Bro. Like these guys can shoot, like
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: they could score at will. Bro. What they lack is defense,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: Like I think wholeheartedly, if you could just get them,
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: like a good defense, a couple like two good defensive
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: players like they're they could maybe make a run for
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: the play in tournament.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but like who would the who would the Hornets
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: give up? That's the thing about it.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: But what about that's what about the Bulls taking on
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: Jaron Jackson Junior.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Bro Like the Bulls at this point now if you
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: lose to the Bulls, you got a problem. Like like
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: at this point, like if you lose to the Bulls,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: that is a red flag. That's a red flag for
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: your NBA franchise, Philadelphia, Philly contractually doesn't match.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Then the apron.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Like Triple J is now almost
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: a super Max player.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Well that's why Jared Allen's a harder trade for the
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: Cleveland Cavaliers. They really can't leave him anywhere.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Calves, they're just in such a hole.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know if you saw what Donovan Mitchell
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: he said.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: How you go from last year to now?
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: It's insane that they have the talent. But Donovan Mitchell
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: he said, I can't have a bad night or else
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: we're gonna lose by twenty. He literally said that right there.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: From all the times.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, Loki has been like that for the last
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: couple of seasons. Look at every playoff matchup that they play.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, for real. Like I talked about the
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Calves last week, but I want to hear your opinion
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: what you think the Calves they should do. And also
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: let me say this a fall from heaven. I love
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: me some Lonzo Ball. I loved his mixtape. I loved
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: the Matinal Hills U c l A. He's getting Ben Simmonsy.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: He's getting Ben Simmonsy. Like he's not confident shooting the basketball,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: having the ball in his hands at all. He lost
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: his touch shooting the three. That's that's what I'm more
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: worried about from the Caves. One of my favorite players
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: losing his touch. But what do you think about the
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Caves so far this year?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: I think, dude, I don't know what to think. Like
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: I a part of me feels like they could figure
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: it out and go on a run and they're just
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: back to being the Cleveland Cavaliers and we're not worried
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: about them at all. But a part of me feels
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: like Darius Garland and Donovan Mitchell just don't mix well together.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: And Evan Mobley just hasn't tookn that next step to
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: being a dominant offensive player. It's literally like, if Evan
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Mobley could be dominant offensively, this team would look a
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: whole lot differently. Yeah, but the thing is he just
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: has it. He's more chit home grid than like on
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: offense than he has to anything else. Like they're there.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: They're these guys that you look at them like, oh,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: they're hyped them up, Like they could shoot the three,
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: they can run the core, they can set screens and
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: pick and roll, and at times they're gonna drop thirty
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: every like twenty five games. Yeah, but really they're only
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: gonna average fourteen points per game. Fifteen points per game.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: And that's exactly what Evan Mobley is in right now.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: We know what he is defensively, Defensive Player of the Year, yeah, asterisk,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: but defensive player are asterisk. But without him making that
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: next jump offensively, I think that's what they're lacking. I
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: think that's the main reason why they haven't made a
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: real bit have they haven't continued to be a threat
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: because the potential for him is there, but it just
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: hasn't been reached. And we know Garland and Mitchell. Garland
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: is a is a is a passer, but he needs
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: the ball in his hands. Donovan Mitchell is a scorer
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: who can pass, but needs the ball in his hands.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: And as far as Jared Allen, Jared Allen's good in
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: pick and roll, he's good down low, he's good. His
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: inability to stretch the floor hurts at times. He's he's
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: better than Gobert, I think, but I just think it's rough.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: I just think one of the he's better offensively than Gobert, Yeah,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: for sure, like without a doubt. But I just think
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: that there's a lot of their bench guys they just
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: continue to miss on them multiple times. I mean, look
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: at Max Strew's right now. So I just feel like
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: he just really hasn't been the same since he since
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: he left Miami. And uh yeah, I Lonzo Ball, it
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: looked like a good idea, like oh three and d
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: passer off the bench. You need that in every team.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: Just I think it's over, Like I think it's over
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: for him, Like I as sad as it is, just
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: the knees are gone, the the the confidence isn't there.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: It's just it's just not working out for him. And
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: I feel like for the Cleveland Cavaliers, maybe they're also
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: waiting too long to make Maybe they're waiting too long
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: on some players primes and not capitalizing to get some
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: draft picks. I mean, especially right now, you tell me
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: you can't get a Hall for Donovan Mitchell. You know
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: you're telling me you can't get a Hall for Darius
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Garland or I mean Jared Allen we already talked about.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: But I don't know if I think you still keep
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: you still keep EMO because as far as those other
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: two guys, like maybe you make a decision on one
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: of the two and go bring in a bag, I'd
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: rather don't feel like this this is a team that
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: lebron can finish one year out next year and for
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: tire at Cleveland Cavalier.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah, I could see that, But okay, let's be honest.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: Last year about the Calves, I didn't say it last week.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: Last week when I did the NBA Pod the Calves
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: last year from three throughout All Star Breaker, like till
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: mid March, they had like the greatest three point percentage
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: in NBA history, So it led to them having the
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: greatest offensive net rating throughout the entire year by far.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: So now that it's come back down to reality, you're
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: kind of seeing like, obviously it's gonna turn the tide,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: like you're gonna you're gonna level out as the year's
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: go on as far as a three point shooting team.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: But what's weird about Evan Mobley your point? We saw
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: him be dominant at the beginning of the year, the
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: first two weeks he was dropping over twenty five point
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: ye yes year, So that's what makes it confusing. And
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: I know Donovan Mitchell or not Donovan Mitchell, Darius Garland
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: wasn't playing like the first four or five weeks. But
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: if anything, it should be easier with Darius Garland. And
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: you talk about somebody who could potentially go to Houston,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: Darius Garland, that would be a move right right then
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: and there where it could help them.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: But but who are you giving.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: That's where I'm saying, like I'm just like picking.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe low key d Mitch to Houston would also be
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: a move that d Mitch.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: To Houston would be. I'd clear out the table for that.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: If I'm Houston, Reach Shepherd gone, you think Reed Shepherd's gone?
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Shepherd, Tari Barr Smith, Bari Smith. That's three guys already.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: I would try to keep Amen, but like I think,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: you're not Thompson.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: No matter what, You're not getting Amen Thompson almost invaluable.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: You.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: You would need some other teams draft picks because you
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: make you trade for d Midge and have this a
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: K D and singoon around him and an Almond they're
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: not gonna draft pretty low, so you're gonna want another
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: team's picks. I don't even know how that would work, Like,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know how their picks right now.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: That would be that would be amazing. That would be amazing. No,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: but okay, I want to hope it.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Never happens because I hate Houston.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: But that would be that would be scary for the
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: for the entire or West, if they somehow managed to
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: get Donovan Mitchell, if they somehow managed to get them.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: But I'm okay. I want to ask you about the
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: Yanna situation because again I gave my opinions last week
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: and has been one in, one out, like one foot in,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: one foot out the entire year. Obviously, they're so bad.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: He's hurt right now, two games out of the playing spot.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: So what do you think about the whole Yanna situation
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: in the Bucks this year?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: So you're telling me Savior the franchise Kevin Porter Junior
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: isn't enough to keep him there, bro, what are you
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: talking about? Basketball team? Dude? He's going crazy. But Johannis,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: I think for him, what is best for my career? Like,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: what am I going to be remembered. Am I gonna
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: remembered as this guy that set around like it's forgotten
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: about eventually because I didn't win enough championships or make
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: at least a push and be a part of teams
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: that actually mattered. Because we know we have dp O
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: Y honest, we have MVP, honest, we have championship be honest,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: we have Dominant, be honest. But the thing is, when
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: you don't have enough of those moments, you become forgotten
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: about you honest. Maybe name alone keeps him because it's
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: an insane name in one of those things like honest,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: Like you know, so it's like, oh, he's the name,
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: the name's too much to forget, but what you did
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: will be forgotten about. Like I, I really do think
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: that legacy at this point in his career is what matters.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: We know who he is. We know at any given
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: point he could be the best player in the entire universe,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: in the entire world if Victor wom Minyama didn't exist.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: But you know, johannest he could have. He has that potential.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: He is that he is an insane freak, the Greek
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: freak literally, But in the second part of his career,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: who is he like? Who is he gonna be? Is
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: he gonna be this guy that said around still waiting
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: for Milwaukee to get draft picks that they gave a
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: way back and build around him. They traded away A. J.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: Johnson to the to the Washington Wizards, and look at
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: what he's been doing for the Washington At least he
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: would have another score around him, you know. And they're
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: not making any real splash moves for it. They don't
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: have any ability to make any splashing Miles Turner they
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: overpaid for I mean, I mean Indiana. Indiana looks like
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: they dodged a bullet by not giving him that big
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: contract because they can. They can go get a good
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: player in the draft or go sign someone. Jay Huff
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: looks very good right now. You got him for cheeping,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: and Tyre's is gonna come back to a good situation.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: But as far as Johannest, that move didn't do much.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: You traded Damian Lillard away or you got rid of him,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: and now you're eating his contract stupidly for the next
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: two seasons over twenty five mil a lot for how
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: much it is, Yes that they're eating twenty five mil.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: They're eating that contract for two straight seasons twenty five
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: mil to the cap. Dude, the Bucks are no man's les.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: Get out of there, like yeah, force your way somewhere
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: like uh. And the thing is, the thing is, I
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: think his value is shot enough right now that teams
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: don't have to overpay for Giannis, which is the crazy part.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, not overpaid for Giannis is like it's still
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: a draft for the bus.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: You pay for a first round draft picked instead of six,
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: you know, so.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's still gonna be something crazy. But no, I
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. And it's just like Yannis, you
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: being one foot in, one foot out, that's what makes
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: it a lot worse. And to be honest, the Bucks,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: like if they kind of made the right moves, just
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: injuries killed them, Like when Damian Little was healthy, Yannis
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: he got hurt. And then last year was the first
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: year where Yannis was healthy for a postseason run. That
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: was the first year he was healthy since their championship.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: Run that Sons and Books championship. Both teams fell apart
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: after this, never been the same after that, never been
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: the same.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that that is true. Something about that finals right there,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: that was and.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: You're you're firing coaches in Milwaukee, Budenholzer, I mean, looking
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: very very you fired Doc Rivers what twenty five games?
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: In thirty games in after Fonso picked him to be
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: coach of the year.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Rivers, it was the other guy what was his name?
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: Who was it? What was his name?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: I forgot it picked him for coach of the year.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: Oh man, Oh, doc Rivers took over for him? Doc
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: Rivers took over?
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: Who was it?
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: Let me let me see, I completely forgot about that.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: I forgot about that. That was before All Star break. Oh,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: Adrian Griffin. Adrian Griffin.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, it was Adrian Griffin. Picks Adrian Griffin coach of
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: the Year and then gets fired twenty five games.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: I mean though they were they were first in the
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: Eastern Conference, So I don't know. It wasn't a bad pick.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: It was just I guess I didn't have my sources
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: right on the inside. I needed NBA's sources or something
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: to figure out. But okay, let's let's talk about good
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: teams right here. Detroit Pistons and the New York Knicks
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: right here.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: M h.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: If you had to pick one team as of right
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: now to make it out of the Eastern Conference, it'll
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: obviously be one of these two. Who are you taking?
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the New York Knicks. I just
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: feel like Jayleen Brunton was able to do in big
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: time moments. I know Kay Cunningham's all world, but Jalen Brunson,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: We've seen him have big moments year in and year out,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: and he really hasn't missed a step. I mean, you
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: can't do much when the other teams is better than
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: your team, you know, and you're constantly dropping buckets. Karl
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: Anthony Towns foul trouble sometimes can be lack a day's
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: a goal on defense, but still we know what he
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: is offensively, we know what he is there. But the
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: depth feels a little bit better now. The depth feels
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: a little bit better now on this team, You're you're
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: instead of going six deep, seven deep, you have nine
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: guys that you can play on rotation. Jordan Clarkson looks
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: like a very good add to this team, especially when
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: it comes to having a three point shooter, their own
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: shot creator six former six Men of the Year, Jordan
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: Clarkson on this team, you're able to have that called
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: the bitch. Tyler Kollik is looking very good. Right now.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: And Mike Brown, God, Sacramento, you suck like Sacramento just
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: has to be, like, dude, an absolute dumpster fire bro
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: like you. He was literally your coach last year. And
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: look at what he's doing for the New York Knicks,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: and he's taken I think he's taking what Tom Thibodeaux
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: has done and made it better, like immediately, so much
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: better because these guys aren't dying each It's no coincidence
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: that Josh Hart's stats have gone down because I mean
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: he's not playing forty eight down minutes tonight, so forty
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: so you know they're gonna get rest and I think,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: come playoff time, with a little bit more rest, the
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: New York Knicks are gonna be a real problem in
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: the East.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna have some gas in the tank. And
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: I told this to Josh before, So okay. Jalen Brunson
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: the entire season twenty nine points a game, sixty percent
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: true shooting, but the past eight games thirty three points
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: a game, seven assists, only averaging one turnover a game
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: and seventy percent true shooting. This is what Shaye is
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: doing this year. And I think the biggest thing it's
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: not as far as do the Knicks have the talent.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: It's always been as far as Jalen Brunton has to
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: play up to a superstar level of the top five
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: guys in order for them to have a real chance.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: And as of lately, he's playing up to upper echelon superstar.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: He's playing up to that, and like we cannot deny that,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: Like you're saying, Mike Brown has done wonders for this offense.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: And we saw multiple stints where there was a game
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: versus Miami, the Knicks what they did where they shut
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: down the entire Miami offense. Even in the NBA Cup
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: the Knicks, they shut down the Spurs offense in the
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter. So they still have that defensive identity with Dibbodeau,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: but their offense just looks a lot easier now. It
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: looks a lot easier for the Knicks. And sometimes in basketball,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: it's yes, you need to make the tough buckets, Yes
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: you need to make that, but it's sometimes who who
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: has easier shots throughout the game, who has more easier
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: gimmes throughout the game, Cuz you're like you're saying, you're
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: gonna have more energy, You're gonna have more gas down
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: the tank. So whenever you need to make those crazy
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: club situation plays like the Knicks always do, you're more
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: likely gonna make those. So I'm just saying the nick
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: barring anything crazy happening, any crazy trades Detroit makes I
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna make it out of the East, even
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: even if the Pistons maybe make a trade around the Edges.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: But or mom Moo just continues to be player in
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: the world dominate.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Raptors as a four seed insane. I wouldn't have
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: expected that right there.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: Just I mean, the seventy six years guard trio also
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: hasn't been healthy all at one time really this season
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: as well, so they could I think they could be
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: a real threat as well.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: I'm Tyrese MAXI he's been hoopy.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: I know, I know this is gonna be like a
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: low key move that doesn't look really great on paper.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, but Gershwan, you're Biselli right, I've been seeing
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: a lot of reports that the Spurs could make a
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: move like a low key move for Gershawn. Obviously they
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: wouldn't trade Jeremy's so hand because that would just be
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: intellectually stupid, like to trade Jeremy so Hand for ger Sewan. No,
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think it would be louder. I think you
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: can get a lot more value from for Jeremy so
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: Hand then like just trade them straight up for ger Shawn.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: I think Jeremy is his own move and then they
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: make a little minute move on the other side for Gershan.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: Three dude. I think him in the Spurs system fits
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: way more than in a New York system where it's
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: just like get rebounds, play good defense and shoot threes
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: and that's literally all he did for France when they
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: were really good at times, Like it's just true like
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: at time, and team him with his one of his
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: best friends. So it'd be like, bro, so I want
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: to see that move Loki happen. Ger Shawn, you ever silly.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: I don't think the Knicks will do it.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think that that would be a depth that
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: would be a low key depth piece for the Spurs.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: That'd be like, oh dang, like yeah, we got it's
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: gonna get overlooked. It's gonna get overlooked, but it would matter.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think with how the Knicks are playing
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: right now.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: Can't get enough Carter Bryant's on one team. You know
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying, I can't get enough of them.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: Just get all the Carter Bryants all y'all just need
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: is Cedric Coward to complete the the Infinity Stones. But okay,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: let me tell you this about imagining.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: Holy imagine just.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: Trying to see who could be Kawhi first on the Spurs.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: Who could do it? No, But let me tell you
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: about the Pistons right here. Okay, try to guess what
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: the best net rating in the NBA. It's from the Pistons.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: That's a hint right there? What the best two players
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: in a lineup? What the best net rating is in
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: the NBA as of right now? A hints they're on
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: the Pistons.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: The best net rating.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of like a single two players, Tobias.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: Harris and Ron holl in the second.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: Okay, you did get Ron Holland, right, but it's Ron
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: Holland and sorry Thompson who checked this?
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: Are Tobias Harris for some reason was gonna be like.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: You knew it was gonna be something funny. They're shooting
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: twenty seven percent from three, right, both of those guys.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: Their net ratings eighteen point six and their defensive rating
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: on the court is ninety six point three, so one
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: of the best offensive net ratings and one of the
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: best defensive ratings in the NBA. I just had to
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: give you that before we talk the Pistons. But let
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: me ask you, this is Kate Cunningham. Is I know
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: he wasn't in this conversation beforehand. Is he creeping his
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: way into that top eight superstar where we have that
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: Anthony Edwards what we have.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: I think he's better than I think he's better than
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards by far. Not by far, but I think
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: he's better who.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: I mean as of this year, as of right now,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: Like through.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: This, I think a bigger conversation. I know you're not
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: gonna like it because you kind of didn't react to
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: it well when I brought it up. I don't think
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: Palo is the number one option on his basketball team.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think he's the best player on the Orlando Magic.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: Dude, I've been telling you Paalo, like Paalo, I'm not
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: the biggest Palo guy.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not a Palo guy. I just feel like he
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: can't shoot the three, very inconsistent for the mid range.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: All his points happened inside sometimes doesn't see the court. Well,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: we know he's good defensively, I'm not gonna take that
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: away from him, but offensively it's I don't know. I mean,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: get the ball to Franz and get out the way.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: To be fair, like the Magic. They haven't had Franz
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: and Paulo on the court at the exact same time,
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: literally throughout the entire year. Like one person's hurt another person.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one person got off topic right there. But I
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: think there's like a narrative for Polo that he was
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: like the superstar, like you know something, I don't know,
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: it's pumped the brakes.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: No, I thought you're gonna say something like I thought
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: you're gonna say like he was like on the Top
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: five Superstar or like Jalen Brynce j Brunson. No, I
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: think I think, No, he's He's not on Jalen Brunson.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: No, he's not Wall not. Who who are we talking about?
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: Carry Kruncent.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: I'm taking Brunson over An.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: I would right now as a like offensive and it's.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: A point guard and it's playing out a position.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, but it's gonna be okay, and it's not
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: having the best like Okay, he's averaging damn near twenty
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: nine points.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: Need a point guard, He needs a point guard like he.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: I think he legit. I think he's a two Like I.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: I I think he's a he's a he's a Tracy McGrady,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan build more than he is, like
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: a s G. A Jalence. Yeah, like I, I I
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: don't think he's a I think he needs a ball
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: handler next to him, like I think he needs a
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: guy to create for him sometimes.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: And to be fair, this is just me again, this
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: is biased podcast. I'd face guard over a Yuard over
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: a two guard that's.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 2: On the other hand, can can handle he is. He
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: can't handle the rock. He is the offense and he
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: can shoot. Almost didn't think he was good this good
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: of a three point shooter, but he's actually a really
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: damn good three point shooter. Yeah, I mean not ant level.
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, and it's pretty damn good at shooting the three,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: but he's he's pretty close.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: Oh man. It's just and I feel like An and
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: Kaid like their level neck and neck because and he's
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: finally learning this year, like how to be like a
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: fishing with Also just as good.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: They're both just as good defense.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: I say, like same level, Like I can't.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: I would say, I would say, can guard more positions
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: than can He's six eight.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: Like I get your point, Like there's a difference between
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: being the offense and is the offense. Like I get,
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: like there's a big difference between the two mm hm.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: So like I get having Kid above Ant, but like
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: I just feel like they're both at that.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: Like, so you're starting your franchise, So are you taking first?
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: If you have, You're sitting there at pick number six. No,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: like pick number eight and Ant and Caate are on
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: the board, Jason Tatum's gone, Like all these other guys
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: are gone, like right there in that six and seven area,
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: and now Brunston and Jason Tatum just came off the board.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: We know who the top five is, but Brunston and
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: Jason Tatum just came off the board. You have Cad,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: you have Aunt sitting right there, and maybe someone else.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know, But in this hypothetical, those two are
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: sitting right there. Who are you taking?
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: I would take Cad, but like I feel like you
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: can't go wrong either way. Like I just feel like
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: they don't have a clear gap over the two because
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: Ant took off before caid superstardom, and then Cad caught up.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: And then like he's like maybe.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: Does have the luxury of playing in the Eastern Conference.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: I do think getting to the Western Conference finals twice
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: helps him a lot as well. But but the luxury
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: of playing in the East, and Kate's going to dominate
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: for a long time.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So like I think both would be doing the same.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm That's what I think right now. Like
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: like if Ant was in the Western Conference with this
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: exact or Eastern Conference with this exact same team, they'd
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: be the three seed.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: But like in the crazy question, crazy question, Right now,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: at this moment, you have the eighth pick. Cooper Flag,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: Kate Cunningham, and Anthony Edwards are all sitting right there.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: Who are you taking?
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: Call me recency bias, call me having him in Dynasty Basketball.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: Give me Cooper Flag, baby, Like I'm telling you Cooper
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: Flag as a scorn pot.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: I no, no, I get it. Defensively, he's better than
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: both of them too.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah already, And like I would say, he's just as
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: good as a passer right now as aunt already.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: Hear me out one legacy I want to talk about
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: real quick is Devin Booker. I want to talk about
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: Devin Booker, Like, is he just one of those stars
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: that's going to be Like, yeah, Devin Booker was good,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: he dropped seventy two, you know, nothing crazy, but.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: You know he forgot about that, like you knows.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, Like, what is Devin Booker's career? Like?
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: Is he a Hall of Famer?
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: No, here's the way he's He's a hall of Famer.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: But if t Max and I feel like the book
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: has to be in, does he though? Does he? No?
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: You're right, that's a crazy statement. Take that like at
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: least scoring multiple times? Yeah, crazy, I take exactly. I
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: take that completely back.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: But I mean, like Devin, h We're good.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: Is he.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 3: More?
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: But Reggie Miller's had his moments?
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: I was thinking at first, maybe Reggie, but I'm like, no,
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 1: Reggie's like.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: Reg had the moments, he had the moments?
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: Is he more? Kevin Johnson? I mean they're both Phoenix
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: Suns players. Oh my gosh. But honestly, honestly, Grant Hill's
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: better than Devin Booker.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: Grant Hill is better than Devin Booker.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: And he's a Hall of famer, Grant Hill's hall of famer, right,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: I think, no, no, he's not.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, these guys were compared for college while back in
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: back and forth for a while, him and Donovan Mitchell.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: I think they're both on like the same tier of guys.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: Butt d Mitch, dude. Booker de Minch has still had
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: the playoff moments, dropping forty five like three games, but you.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: Could say Devin Booker in the playoffs two he's been
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: he's been a guy moments.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, cut the league down at the forty seven,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: but you know, whatever, whatever it was with Chris Paul,
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: but we forget about that. I mean, I feel like
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: d book unless he goes to a contender, I don't know,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know how to gauge his career.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: Like, okay, I know this move sounds so nasty because
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: because you gotta think, you gotta think Devin Booker he's
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: not bad.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: He's too good to be, like, oh my bad, he's
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: too good.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: To be, like.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 2: He's on freaking who's like.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: Paul.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: No, Like I don't even know how to gauge it,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know how.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: To gauge it right now, you can't engage Devin Booker's
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: like career sound sounds nice.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: Daron Fox was on this trajectory before he went to
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: the Spurs, to be honest, and now that he's getting
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: like real contender vibes right now. But I feel like
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: with Booker knowing that he's just like this prolific scorer
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: all time, one of the best scorers of all time,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: but no accolades.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: Really yeah, no, he's he's just a hooper, like he
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: just hoops.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: But but the thing is like mcgrady's just a hooper,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: like being he's not a winner, likes not a winner. Deep,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: But I don't know NBA, like McGrady is a better
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: but mcgrady's a scorer, but better score. They never score
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: seventy two, so I don't know.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: It's the gauge. It's like, I mean, okay, this sounds nasty,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: Like I.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: Keep going back to McGrady for some redy. I just
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 2: keep going back like they're not the same level. I think, like.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: Mellow, they're the same level. McGrady Mellow, that's the same level, but.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: Mellow has aura compared to Devin Booker.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: Like Mellow, that's what I'm saying, it's just like Devin Blow.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 2: In the garden dropping fifty two, like you had to
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: be there, Like you had to be.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: There watching the game, like it matters about.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: Watching with a mon Shumper and j R. Smith moments
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: show Jeremy Lynn to wave off, you know, like you know, so.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: Like you had to be there for Mellow, Like the
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: moments and the aura matter is like of an NBA player,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: That's what they're gonna remember. Okay, this sounds nasty, I
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: know I said it. If he wants to be like
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: kind of remembered and have some.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: Playoffs, Paul George has more aura than.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: Paul George has a lot more aura Miami.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: Is Paul George not a better score than Devin Booker.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: But like Paul George has had them all around he is.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: But Devin Booker is a good defender. Dude. I don't
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: know how to gauge Devin Booker, Like I really don't
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: know how to gauge Devin Booker's career, Like it just
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: some of those guys.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: About it Orlando or Miami, Like where if he goes
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: to Orlando, Oh my gosh, Devin Booker would be a demon.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: Bro I think Miami too bro like he actually no,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: I'd want him to go to Orlando more too. Maybe Okay,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: call me crazy.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 2: But is it gonna be one of those where you
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: wait too long like Bradley Bill. But he's never been
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 2: injured like Bradley Bill, so I can't really say.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: Call call me crazy. But maybe you trade away and
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: you get Devin Booker and somebody else to go back
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: to Orlando. I was thinking that.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to say that out loud, but I
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: was thinking that.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: Don't worry for both of us. Like you you trade
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: away Paulo, get rid of that Max, you get Devin Booker.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 2: I still think Milwaukee should be like we'll give you Jannis,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: give us Paolo.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: I I think so too, Like that would be the
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: perfect situation for him, perfect Like you still get a
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: young star Mark, maybe Superstar, maybe Superstar.
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 2: What if the book were to go to like Toronto,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: I mean Toronto.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: Hoops is year. It hasn't been bad, but like as
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: far as branding, like, I'm sorry, I want my stars
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: to go to a good brand.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: Dude, he's just gonna go to Brooklyn. He's just gonna
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: go to Brooklyn. One day. Courer is gonna go down
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: the whole time. That's a move he would make. They're
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: gonna be like, oh, the bright lights of Brooklyn. We
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: got Devin Booker some yeah, like next to Nolan, Trey
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: orgor demon like I don't know, bro, Devin Booker's curve
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: is weird. Chat is Devin Booker hall of Famer? Like
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: like like den Is Devin Booker gonna be house, Devin
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: Booker gonna be remembered. Chat Like we let's just.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe okay, maybe this would be like too much offense
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: for the Pacers.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: Maybe d booked to Portland.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: I was thinking Pacers, like, oh, next.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 2: To Tyrese would be pretty nice.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: Next thinking and.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: Game has evolved to where he's a point guards.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, like he could be a point guard, Like, honestly.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: Think Portland would be nice. You don't think Portland next
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: to Denny next to some of the defenders they have
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: around him, like I do think I do think Portland's
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: a superstar, like you need a superstar.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I was he could fit in Detroit.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: He could fit in with a trade like send it
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 2: an ivy, send Ron Holland and a couple of picks.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: And Honestly, I think they he fits perfect because you're
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: you're telling me he could He could say, I don't
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: have to play point guard and I could be next
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: to one of the best point guards in the league
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: who could give me the ball wide open. I could
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: have one on one for the first time since Kevin
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: Durrant like was healthy.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: Would you rather have Jaalen Brown or Devin Booker?
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: Jylen Brown's damn near averaging thirty.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: This year, Yeah, but de book does that by every year. No,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: he really doesn't. But you know what I mean, he
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: can do.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 1: This is Jalen Brown's first year, like having the keys
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: to the offense, and he could be number.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: Two, but he don't got a left.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: Give me the guy with no hairline, with no hair
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: left on his top of his.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: Head, the guy with a good hairline.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: Hey, oh man, Like, okay, I want to ask you
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: about the Celtics real quick. This Celtics they started off
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: bad and ever since, ever since Jordan Walsh started playing
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: some basketball for them, Like.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 2: He's defense, bro.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: Defense is good bro, like like Joe Missoula, and this
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: team is like they turned it around very fast, and
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: Jason Tatum is looking to come back this year. Do
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: you think the Celtics, like Jason Tatum's gonna come back,
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: that's what they said, like it's almost a foregone conclusion.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: Do you think the Celtics they could still take take
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: the East back? Like after everything just collapsed and then.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they could still take the East back if Jayson
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: Tatum comes back healthy, like healthier dude.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: Like the Celtics, I thought they were gonna beginning of
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: the year, I thought they were gonna be in the Doin.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: With Anthony Simons, with Anthony Simons.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: Jordan Wash, I'd rock me at Jordan wallsh jersey, the
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: Alopecia man.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: Bro Like that's ugly, bro. That's say you were a
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: Nicomania jersey, or like I wear a mac mcclunk Texas
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: Tech jersey. Just that don't count a.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: Magic a magic jersey, Mack mcclunk. No, that's a that's
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: a dunk champion right there. But okay, I think.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: Jamie Evans Utah Jazz jersey.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: A Bryce Sensible, a Brice Sensible Classic Utah jersey, that
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: would be a jersey that I would rock.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: Remember remember when Damian Lillar was in the dunk contest.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: I think people forget about that.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: I remember that. Remember when Javelle McGhee dunk two basketballs
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: on two separate hoops.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: I was that was peak, right, there was a Gerald
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: Green that blew out the candle.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: That was Gerald Green. I don't know why I was
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: thinking that was Russell Westbrook.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: I know Russ he was in there on a tangent.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: Dude.
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, Devin Booker took us to a roll wind.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: No, but I think that's pretty much all NBA news
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: right here. You want to I don't know if you
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: want to do to spin the wheel or you want
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: to call it.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 2: Let's just do a quick spin the wheel and then
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: we'll call it.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: I mean we're up already, all right, I'm already still
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: on two hours sleep right now. So you know, let's
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: just do it. Let's just do it.
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: Might as well. So okay, point guard, shooting guard, small forward,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: power forward, center, pretty simple, spin the wheel, Josh, you
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: are going first in this one right here, and.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: It eliminates, eliminates, team eliminated, right.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: I believe this one does. And you start off with
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: the wash did Wizards? Uh?
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: I mean give me Alexander? Sorry at my sinner?
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, Okay, yeah, it does eliminate them. Okay,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: let's see who I get. Did it eliminate Okay, it
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: did eliminate them.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: Hey, stars having a pretty good year.
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: Two he is having a pretty good year. The freak bro.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you know what. I love me some Wimby.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: I love me some Wimby.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: I love to see this.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, actually the biggest Wimpy fan. Actually, I'm
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: actually the biggest Wimby fan here.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: That's insane.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: The odds of that, though, you get the Clippers, give me.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: Give me James Harden at my at my one, dude,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, my team's chop.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: No matter what you say, I'm gonna use your own
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: argument against you. I don't care who you get do
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: you have in the league.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: My team's dude. You don't even matter who you take.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: Just take to take Danny Wolf at the Forge. Move on.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: I gave you Michael Porter Jujor and he's having a
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: good year so far. He's averaging twenty five. The odds
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: of that, the odds of this will Austin Celtics.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: Are they injured or no? I mean no, Are we
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: injured or no? Not injured? No? Give me Tatum at
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: the three.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: It don't matter. You don't he doesn't have Wimby. It
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't matter, all right, I need me another
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: superstar appair with Wimby. I would love Steph or I
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: could just get in the Kolie. Wait, can I get Yokic?
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: Are we doing positions?
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: I mean you're the one that put positions there. It's fine,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: just take kag.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: Bro Okay, So I'm gonna put Yokic right there, and
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Wimby at the four. You know what, No,
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: you're definitely not winning no more. You I have bare
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: minimum two out of the top five.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: A you get at the two. Give me Mamu at
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: the four, Mamu at the four.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: You know what, Let's keep this trend going. Give me
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: Yannis at this point, give me Steph, give me Cade,
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: give me somebody that Scotty bars. But even better, give
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: me LaMelo ball am I one right here, this is
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: literally the greatest he took in con at the two. Nah,
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: I just trust just trust this right here. I already
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: know there's gonna be a great two guard that pops
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: up for me. Man, it's grizzly. Oh my goodness, Josh,
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: this is brutal for you.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: Give me Coward at the two. Give me Cedric Coward
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: at the two. Dang, this was this was God. My
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 2: team is trash, bro. Oh my god, he went to bed.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: Give me the Trailblazers. Should I take Timani Kamara just
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: for defense? Or Drew? Should I take Drew? I'll give
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: me Drew. There is Dinny.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 2: Dinny. You wouldn't put dinn at the two. A big two.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: I mean I have Jokic and LaMelo.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: Too many ball handlers, yeah, handlers. I really have four
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: of them on five. All of them are ball handlers, brolers.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: Not a single one on the four. Hey, I let's
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: redo this. Let's redo this one. But new rule. You
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: can only take one All Star or two All Stars okay, okay?
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: Or one All Star one or two.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: One for the ball knowledge.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah we'll just do one one all star. Yeah, I'm
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: fine with that. Yeah. Your team was terrible. Job that was?
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: That was. I thought we could come back from the
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: Star pick, but it just got worse. Like, it just
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: got worse. I mean I like Sar, I love Sar,
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: but I mean like.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 3: Not, Hey, you get the Chicago bro, what the oh
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 3: my god, who you're taking?
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: You know what I need?
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: I need?
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: I need a three and D guy. Give me Mantis
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: at the three.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, oh man, okay, let's see. This is actually
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: gonna be strategic here, because we could only get one
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: All star right here.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: That's why. That's why I was pretty strategic with my picker.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, Danny's never been an All Star, So
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: give me Danny at the three.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: That's a lucky pick. I don't know how last day
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: I love Danny.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: Bro some Danny hoops. Bro. He's averaging like twenty five
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: seven and seven. Bro, he's he's Greek, right, No, he
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: he's as rally, He's as rally. You get the rally.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm tripping. I'm tripping. I don't know why I
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: said that.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: I think the only pick's coward here, right, yeah, I
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: like that at the two.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: I like coward at the two. Dude, only gosh, holy
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: young team right now? Are you sure you're not rebuilding, Josh,
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: Danny's already cooking me rebuilding. Lock him down. Oh h
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: you were taking Lowry. I would take another guy. It
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 2: was me.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, there's keyte George, but like dude,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: he's so good, George, you know what you have said,
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: your coward at the two.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: I'll take George, dude, keyant, George is so good.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: Brodde has been hooping like he has been hooping like crazy.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 2: My my eyes hurt right now, bro my eyes.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: Hurt like Okay, okay, well you got the thunder checking.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: Fine. I guess I'll take freaking Alex Caruso. That's my
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: that's my all Star.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: Are you sure you didn't want to go with Chet
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: risk your all star? You sure about that? Houston Rockets
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: has sin Goon been s Goon has been an All Star?
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 2: Ah? Damn? Kd has been an All Star. Alman has
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: not been an All Star.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: But do I want Almond at my one?
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: I really want? You can move? You can move Danny
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: to your one?
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: Do I? Okay? So I have Danny. He's no give
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: me Katie, let me not, let me not overthink this,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: Let me just take that for sure.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: Guy, damn damn it.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: I mean Kad is perfect next to Danny. We we
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: just have pure scores on my team right here. Philadelphia
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: seventy six Ers Max has been an All Star PG.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he wouldn't fit with my team no more.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Joel, he's obviously been an All Star.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: If it put McCain at the four, I'm just kidding.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: Andre Dragon has been an All Star.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: Paul George has been an All Star. Am I gonna
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: say Kelly Bray?
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: I think you might have to say Kelly Ooper.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: Adam Bona? Oh are you?
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: Are you gonna take him?
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: Adam Bona is kind of nice? Mmm now, but gimme
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: Kelly Hoopray at the four? God, dude, at least at
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 2: least my team's good looking.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: Well, you have Kelly Oubrey and Esga. I mean other
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: than that, I I.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: Don't know, swag, we're gonna have the best fits.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Toronto Raptors. I mean, Yakub's solid, Jaka Peartle point guard,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: Emmanuel Quickly, there's Archie Barrett. No, no, just give me Yakub.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: And your last one is gonna have to be a
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: pretty good spin. I feel I feel like, yeah, I
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: don't know. I think who's my sinner? Who's my sinner?
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: Cavaliers and you took Jared Allen's been an All Star and.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: Evin Moby's been an All Star. Who's theer?
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: We're gonna figure this out. Calves roster. Let's see, we're
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: gonna figure this out live roster it. Oh, Thomas Bryant.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: How could we have forgotten the man, the myth, the
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: legon unless you want where's he at the others?
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: They don't have another sinner? Yeah Thomas Bryant. Yeah, so
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: you have Thomas Bryant. Gosh, all right, who's my point guard?
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: Can't be an All Star.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: Ruin your team?
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: No, I got Danny Miami Heat has Norman Power? Here
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: has Norman Power. Norman Powell hasn't been an All Star.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 1: That is a great pool. Honestly, one of the best
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: ones that could have been.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: You know what, she can do this by himself. So yeah,
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: you just hug just on.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: My team can't can't play defense, but we could score.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: But before we get out here and find us on twitch,
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: discord TikTok, he's grabbing a YouTube but ts C s
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: A or the so called sports you listen to this
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: live or not, they they can't play defense, but it's
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 1: just SJA scoring points and you're open. Colbard, Mitis and
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: Kelly Ober. Honestly, Thomas Brian could shoot threes, he could,
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: Howard could score he can, But honestly, yeah, he would
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: score a lot better. But yeah, we'll get out of
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: here major, shouldn't anybody that likes sports. Merry Christmas to
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: all you guys, and we'll see you guys soon. Take care, God,