Latest / Infinite Threads with Bob Barnett / The Borrowed Pieces of Us
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- 0:25SPEAKER_01: and time.
- 0:29SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to Infinite Threads.
- 0:31SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Bob.
- 0:34SPEAKER_00: This week we've been playing with a pretty big idea.
- 0:38SPEAKER_00: What if the weave is more real than the separation?
- 0:43SPEAKER_00: Yesterday I talked about what we send into that weave because what passes
- 0:49SPEAKER_00: through us rarely stops with us.
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: Kindness travels, hurt can travel too.
- 0:55SPEAKER_00: Human beings carry things forward, sometimes for years without ever knowing where they began.
- 1:02SPEAKER_00: Today, I want to turn that around and ask a slightly stranger question.
- 1:08SPEAKER_00: How much of me is actually mine?
- 1:13SPEAKER_00: I don't mean that in some spooky way.
- 1:17SPEAKER_00: I'm still Bob.
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: You're still you.
- 1:20SPEAKER_00: Nobody needs to start checking the return address on their personalities.
- 1:25SPEAKER_00: But think about yourself for just a minute.
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: The phrases that you use,
- 1:31SPEAKER_00: your sense of humor,
- 1:33SPEAKER_00: The foods that feel like home,
- 1:35SPEAKER_00: the way you comfort someone,
- 1:37SPEAKER_00: the music that gets under your skin,
- 1:39SPEAKER_00: even the way you react when somebody disappoints you.
- 1:44SPEAKER_00: Where did all of that come from?
- 1:47SPEAKER_00: Some of it certainly seems to be temperament.
- 1:50SPEAKER_00: We arrive here with something already cooking.
- 1:54SPEAKER_00: Ask any parent with more than one child
- 1:57SPEAKER_00: and they'll tell you those kids did not come out of the same personality factory.
- 2:02SPEAKER_00: But then life begins adding pieces.
- 2:07SPEAKER_00: Someone teaches us how to laugh.
- 2:10SPEAKER_00: Someone teaches us what anger looks like.
- 2:14SPEAKER_00: Somebody makes us feel safe enough that safety becomes recognizable later.
- 2:20SPEAKER_00: Maybe another person does the opposite,
- 2:24SPEAKER_00: and years pass before we realize that we're still bracing
- 2:28SPEAKER_00: for something that's no longer happening.
- 2:32SPEAKER_00: People leave fingerprints on us.
- 2:35SPEAKER_00: Not literal fingerprints, thankfully.
- 2:39SPEAKER_00: That would make family reunions very confusing.
- 2:42SPEAKER_00: But pieces, pieces.
- 2:45SPEAKER_00: I sometimes catch myself saying something and realize I know exactly where that came from.
- 2:54SPEAKER_00: A phrase somebody used years ago.
- 2:56SPEAKER_00: A joke, a way of telling a story.
- 3:00SPEAKER_00: And for just a second, That person is there.
- 3:05SPEAKER_00: Maybe you've done that too.
- 3:06SPEAKER_00: I'm sure you have.
- 3:07SPEAKER_00: You hear your mother come out of your own mouth and think, well, apparently this has happened.
- 3:15SPEAKER_00: Or your father, a grandparent, an old friend, someone you worked beside for years.
- 3:24SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it's funny.
- 3:26SPEAKER_00: Sometimes it catches you off guard because the person has been gone a long time.
- 3:32SPEAKER_00: And suddenly there they are again in the way you said three words.
- 3:39SPEAKER_00: You know, that fascinates me.
- 3:42SPEAKER_00: It really does.
- 3:44SPEAKER_00: Because where exactly is that person now?
- 3:48SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're not simply in the past.
- 3:51SPEAKER_00: Something of them has become active in the present.
- 3:57SPEAKER_00: Not their whole life, of course, but a little piece crossed over.
- 4:03SPEAKER_00: Maybe that is what human connection really does.
- 4:08SPEAKER_00: We exchange pieces.
- 4:11SPEAKER_00: A teacher gives confidence to a child who had none.
- 4:16SPEAKER_00: Years later, that child is grown and becomes the person who recognizes another frightened kid.
- 4:24SPEAKER_00: A friend gives us a sense of humor that carries us through a terrible year.
- 4:29SPEAKER_00: And long afterward, we're using that same humor to help somebody else breathe.
- 4:37SPEAKER_00: Nobody, nobody planned the chain.
- 4:40SPEAKER_00: The weave just kept moving.
- 4:45SPEAKER_00: I think this also explains why relationships can change us so profoundly.
- 4:52SPEAKER_00: We sometimes talk about love As though two complete people simply meet,
- 4:58SPEAKER_00: shake hands, emotionally, and continue being exactly who they were.
- 5:05SPEAKER_00: But that, guys, that has not been my experience.
- 5:09SPEAKER_00: Real connection changes us.
- 5:12SPEAKER_00: Hopefully it doesn't erase us.
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: Healthy love should never require that.
- 5:17SPEAKER_00: But somebody becomes important and suddenly Part of their world gets woven into ours.
- 5:26SPEAKER_00: Their concerns begin to matter.
- 5:30SPEAKER_00: Their stories become part of our memory.
- 5:34SPEAKER_00: Places we never cared about become meaningful because something happened there with them.
- 5:42SPEAKER_00: A song that was just a song now has a person attached to it forever.
- 5:48SPEAKER_00: That's strange when you really think about it.
- 5:52SPEAKER_00: One human consciousness enters another life and leaves architecture behind.
- 5:59SPEAKER_00: Maybe that is part of why losing someone can feel so disorienting.
- 6:05SPEAKER_00: We're not only losing their physical presence.
- 6:09SPEAKER_00: We're trying to understand what happens to all the parts of ourselves
- 6:14SPEAKER_00: that grew around knowing them.
- 6:18SPEAKER_00: The answer, I think, is that many of those parts stay.
- 6:23SPEAKER_00: That doesn't make grief easy, though.
- 6:26SPEAKER_00: Nothing, nothing needs to make grief easy.
- 6:30SPEAKER_00: But it means the relationship did not simply vanish.
- 6:35SPEAKER_00: It became part of the person who remains.
- 6:39SPEAKER_00: I have people inside of me.
- 6:42SPEAKER_00: I don't mean voices telling me to buy more aluminum foil or anything like that,
- 6:47SPEAKER_00: although that's happened.
- 6:49SPEAKER_00: I mean people whose humor,
- 6:52SPEAKER_00: kindness,
- 6:52SPEAKER_00: friendship,
- 6:53SPEAKER_00: patience, or sheer ridiculousness became part of how I experienced the world.
- 7:00SPEAKER_00: Some of them are here and some are not.
- 7:03SPEAKER_00: But their thread entered mine and now I can't completely separate the colors anymore.
- 7:11SPEAKER_00: Maybe we were never supposed to.
- 7:14SPEAKER_00: That brings me back to this week's larger question.
- 7:19SPEAKER_00: What if individuality and connection are not opposite?
- 7:26SPEAKER_00: Maybe I become more fully myself partly because of what other people have given me.
- 7:33SPEAKER_00: That sounds contradictory until you think about music.
- 7:37SPEAKER_00: A song can contain many notes without any one note losing its identity.
- 7:45SPEAKER_00: A tapestry Can contain thousands of threads,
- 7:50SPEAKER_00: millions, billions, trillions, without the threads becoming meaningless.
- 7:55SPEAKER_00: Maybe a human being is something like that.
- 7:59SPEAKER_00: Unique, but not self-created.
- 8:02SPEAKER_00: We live in a culture that loves the idea of the self-made person.
- 8:08SPEAKER_00: I've never really believed in one though.
- 8:11SPEAKER_00: Someone fed you.
- 8:13SPEAKER_00: Somebody taught you words.
- 8:15SPEAKER_00: Somebody built the road.
- 8:18SPEAKER_00: Someone invented the things that you use every day.
- 8:23SPEAKER_00: People you will never meet made decisions that shaped the world you entered before you arrived.
- 8:32SPEAKER_00: Even rebellion requires something to rebel against.
- 8:37SPEAKER_00: None of us began at zero.
- 8:40SPEAKER_00: We inherited a world And then started adding ourselves to it, weaving ourselves in.
- 8:47SPEAKER_00: That doesn't reduce individual achievement.
- 8:50SPEAKER_00: If anything, I think it makes life more interesting.
- 8:54SPEAKER_00: I can be proud of what I have made while still recognizing the hands
- 8:59SPEAKER_00: that I never saw helping make it possible.
- 9:03SPEAKER_00: That feels healthier than pretending I built myself from spare parts in a garage
- 9:09SPEAKER_00: And once we recognize how much of ourselves came through others' gratitude,
- 9:14SPEAKER_00: well, through others, gratitude does get wider.
- 9:19SPEAKER_00: So does responsibility because right now somebody may be borrowing something from us.
- 9:26SPEAKER_00: In fact, I know they are.
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: A child is learning what adults are like by watching how we behave.
- 9:33SPEAKER_00: A friend is learning whether vulnerability is safe By seeing what we do
- 9:40SPEAKER_00: with something personal they tell us.
- 9:44SPEAKER_00: Someone we barely notice may remember a kindness years from now.
- 9:48SPEAKER_00: We don't choose every piece of ourselves that gets carried forward by another person.
- 9:55SPEAKER_00: And that is humbling.
- 9:58SPEAKER_00: It should probably make us a little more careful, but not terrified.
- 10:04SPEAKER_00: We're going to get things wrong, guys.
- 10:07SPEAKER_00: We're humans.
- 10:08SPEAKER_00: I certainly have gotten a lot of things wrong.
- 10:12SPEAKER_00: The weave does not require perfection though.
- 10:15SPEAKER_00: If it did, humanity would have been discontinued sometime around Tuesday afternoon.
- 10:22SPEAKER_00: What it asks for, at least as I see it, is awareness.
- 10:29SPEAKER_00: I've said that for a while, self-awareness.
- 10:31SPEAKER_00: We can notice What was handed to us.
- 10:34SPEAKER_00: We can keep the good pieces.
- 10:36SPEAKER_00: We can repair the damaged ones where we can and maybe refuse
- 10:42SPEAKER_00: to pass along what hurt us simply because it is familiar.
- 10:46SPEAKER_00: Then we add something of our own.
- 10:49SPEAKER_00: That's how the pattern keeps becoming new.
- 10:53SPEAKER_00: Maybe that is who we really are.
- 10:55SPEAKER_00: Not isolated selves.
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: Not copies of everyone who came before.
- 11:02SPEAKER_00: Something in between.
- 11:04SPEAKER_00: A living combination of inheritance and choice.
- 11:11SPEAKER_00: A thread carrying colors from many other threads while still becoming a color that
- 11:18SPEAKER_00: the weave has never quite seen before.
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: I like that.
- 11:22SPEAKER_00: I like that a lot.
- 11:24SPEAKER_00: It means I don't have to choose between being myself and belonging to everyone else.
- 11:31SPEAKER_00: Maybe belonging is part of how the self gets made.
- 11:36SPEAKER_00: And if that's true,
- 11:38SPEAKER_00: then some part of every person who ever loved us may still be moving through
- 11:43SPEAKER_00: the world right now.
- 11:44SPEAKER_00: And I believe it is.
- 11:46SPEAKER_00: Through the way that we laugh,
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: through the mercy that we learned from them,
- 11:52SPEAKER_00: through the kindness that we give away without remembering
- 11:55SPEAKER_00: where we first received it.
- 11:58SPEAKER_00: We carry more people than we know Oh gosh, unending.
- 12:04SPEAKER_00: And somewhere without realizing it, somebody may be carrying a little piece of us too.
- 12:11SPEAKER_00: Think about it, guys.
- 12:13SPEAKER_00: Please do.
- 12:14SPEAKER_00: Think about it.
- 12:16SPEAKER_00: I love you all very, very, very, very much.
- 12:20SPEAKER_00: And you know what I need you to do, right?
- 12:23SPEAKER_00: Go out there and pass that on, okay?
- 12:25SPEAKER_00: Later, Gators.
- 12:26SPEAKER_00: Bye-bye.
- 12:30SPEAKER_02: Every story, every voice.
- 12:34SPEAKER_02: In this love we all rejoice.
- 12:38SPEAKER_02: Infinite Threads, here we go.
- 12:42SPEAKER_02: Welcome friends, enjoy the show.