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Division Series Preview · The 3-0 Take

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  Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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  all things Major League Baseball.
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  Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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  It all starts. Right now.
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  Welcome back to the three O take presented by Sea Kick.
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  This is episode 473. I'll be your host, Kyle Corwin.
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  I'm here with my Co host and Nate Reyes.
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  Nate Wow. Wow, wow, wow, wow.
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  What what just happened? OK, I feel like I have to
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  preface this by saying what I just shared with you before I
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  before we hopped on. OK, so we're driving back
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  tonight. So we're out.
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  So I had to have it up on the phone and this is the Mets
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  Brewers game. If you don't know, we're talking
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  about literally driving back and Pete Alonso will obviously get
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  into it. Pete Alonso hits the go ahead
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  three run Homer in the bottom of the top of the ninth and I'm
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  sitting there thinking to myself, and this is what I told
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  you. That's one of those situations
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  in which as a as a baseball fan, regardless what fit what team
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  you're fan of, that's one of the situations that you go, man,
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  what if fill in the blank happened and nine times out of
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  10 doesn't happen because that's just the way baseball works.
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  But every now and then, as baseball fans, we're lucky
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  enough to witness that situation where you go, what if that
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  happened and it happened and I didn't really know what I'm what
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  I do with my hands. I'm still in shock.
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  I'm still in shock. Unbelievable.
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  I'm still in shock, dude. Like, this is just the first
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  three games, you know what I'm saying?
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  Like, this is just the start of this beautiful month.
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  This is just the start. We insanity.
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  That's a great point. I feel like as baseball fans,
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  we've we've been spoiled this month like already.
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  My goodness, dude. And I got to admit, a lot of
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  it's, a lot of it's owed to the Mets.
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  Like if we're being honest, I hate it, but I love.
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  It yeah, I hate it, but I love it dude, it's just.
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  Oh man. It's this.
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  This is what this month is, man. That literally is what this
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  month is. That huge.
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  That's beautiful. What a what a just a primer for,
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  I mean, you, you really could go back to the Braves and and Mets
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  to close out the regular season. You could call that the primer.
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  But in terms of like the postseason, we saw a handful of
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  games these past few days, yeah, that I would say really set us
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  up well for the rest of this month.
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  And I am excited like. I'm literally I, I do you, I
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  said. Should we start that series?
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  Let's just call the episode. Let's just call the.
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  Episode we'll just unbelievable it.
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  Was good game. We'll see you guys next week.
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  No, Yeah, I get. I guess it only makes sense that
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  we start with that. It was last on my list here,
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  obviously, given the the nature of it being the only Game 3 of
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  this week. But it I guess given the nature
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  of what happened, it only makes sense.
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  So let's start right there. We'll start with the Brewers and
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  Mets. Can I just be honest?
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  I don't really. Do we really need to talk about
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  the first two games like? We got we.
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  OK, we'll, we'll dabble into it. I don't want to get ahead of
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  ourselves here, but. I I mean, there's a couple
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  things to note you and I called it on Jackson Cheerio man's
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  man's is is built for this life. And overall man like I job.
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  I'm still like impressed by the Brewers.
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  I got to be honest, like I know they didn't pull this off and I
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  know that, you know, like AI, I'm not going to say 100% Devin
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  Williams, you know, kind of cough things up a little bit.
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  You know, he's he hasn't been back.
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  He hasn't been the whole year. I don't think, you know, a
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  closer takes a long time to kind of settle in into that position
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  and and build up for, you know, those moments.
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  And I'm not laying excuses out for the Brewers.
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  I mean they lost, but overall, like I'm still I'm still
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  impressed. I really am.
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  I'm impressed with with the defense they played.
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  I'm impressed with the at bats like it was it was solid.
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  Man. The freaking pesky Mets, man,
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  they just, I hate that. This is like it's feeling
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  destiny, it's feeling real, it's feeling consistent.
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  Can I ask you something? Yeah.
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  And I was going to wait till we actually got to the game.
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  But now that we're just seemingly talking Mets
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  generally, look, this is going to be a moment of accountability
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  here, possibly, possibly talking about the Mets.
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  You and I and A lot of other people have have ragged on the
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  Mets, rightfully so. They've they've gotten in their
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  own way a fair amount of times. And they, you know, as the
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  saying goes, Mets are going to met.
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  How many of these nail biting games do the Mets have to pull
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  out or just moments in general this post season?
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  How many of those do the Mets have to have before we start
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  going, OK, maybe you maybe we can see the light at the end of
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  the tunnel with this Mets culture.
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  Call it to where this isn't necessarily the team.
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  And I know like recency bias. We're like, we're like basically
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  minutes off of this Pita Lonza home run.
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  So I know it's still fresh and I don't want to get ahead of
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  ourselves here. But like the way they wrapped up
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  the regular season against the Braves, the way they they clawed
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  on the road in Milwaukee, which is a a can be a tough place to
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  play in the post. Season rocking.
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  Let's let's be that. That was loud.
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  I mean, they were there in the night.
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  They were ready to shut this thing down and get the party
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  going out in the streets. But I mean, again, how many
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  moments do we have to have from the New York Mets for us?
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  Milwaukee. For us to go probably a lot of a
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  lot of cheese. How many, how many of these
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  moments do we have to have before we go, OK, that this
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  might be a, a, you know what? I'll, I'll, I'll take a step
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  back. I won't even say looking ahead
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  down the road after this year. This particular Mets team,
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  though, because we, like I said, we, we keep hearing that.
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  Well, the Mets are eventually going to Met and we've said
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  that, but like they're now in the NLDS and they're showing,
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  they're showing no signs of, of relenting, especially given the
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  no, the whole no days off thing. Do I get it?
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  Do I get it? They're about to have two days
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  off. Well, I'm I'm just.
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  Saying a day. Off without missing, without
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  having that that buy, I should say.
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  I I definitely understand. I definitely understand.
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  What I will say is I know you and I talked about like the back
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  end, the bullpen being great in the second-half.
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  I just, I don't see the dominant Edwin Diaz that we're used to.
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  I don't see it. And I saw a courageous coming
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  out in the eighth to hold it at 2, coming out in the ninth like
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  I there was it 7th and 8th. I'm getting all my games make 7
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  days. He did.
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  Did he do? He did 2 innings.
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  I don't remember. I can't keep it.
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  Not tonight you're talking about.
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  You're talking about earlier in the series.
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  Yeah, early in the series he did 2 innings.
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  And then like tonight, I think he, I don't remember what it
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  was, I don't know. But it, it just, it doesn't seem
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  as dominant as, as what we're used to.
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  And I know they had Stanic in the bullpen kind of ready to go,
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  but like Peterson coming in for like his first relief appearance
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  in a year. It's like I, I think they're
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  getting by with band aids in that area.
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  Everything else looks really good.
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  I'm going to be honest. Like it, it does look good.
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  The hitting, the timely hitting is worth noting.
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  The, the solid starting pitching is worth noting.
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  It's the back end where I'm like, do you have enough to get
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  to the end of the month? Do you have enough back there to
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  continue to put up zeros or or hold other teams down until
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  you're like, the comebacks are great, but that that runs dry
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  after a while? It does.
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  And when you're talking 7 game sets, it's going to get
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  interesting. Yeah, even this 5 gamer that's
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  coming up in the NLDS like they have a shot, they always are
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  going to have a shot. I'm just that's the part even
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  watching these games that are I'm like a little I don't know,
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  I don't know, You know on the Pete Alonzo side of things,
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  there was a couple mishaps the last two games.
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  It was that first and 3rd double play that he had into where was
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  there was one out and he tripped on his bat and you know, like
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  you, no one really knew. Like the play was at 1st and he
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  wasn't even halfway down the line.
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  Like what? What was that right?
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  And then you look back and he tripped on his back.
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  He stumbled and couldn't get out-of-the-box quick that that
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  pop up in foul territory tonight.
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  That was right up against the net that he thought he ran out
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  of room. There turned out to be more room
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  and you didn't catch it. Like there's just little things.
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  And so it's like for him to have, I think they said his
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  first home run in like over 40 at bats where he's gone like a a
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  rough homeless streak. Like for him to have that
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  moment, I think really just washes away a lot of what he's,
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  you know, been dealing with. And it's it's a big confidence
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  boost. And they said it on the
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  broadcast like that Lindor at bat to start the 9th.
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  That was. That was a professional at bat.
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  Yeah, big time. We'll get into it.
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  We'll get into it, but I was at the OS game yesterday or last
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  night when they got eliminated and I have to say I talk about
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  night and day in terms of putting up tough at bats late in
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  the game. I mean, Francisco Lindor tipped
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  my hat to you, my friend. That's that is the way to lead
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  off an inning that late in the game.
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  And Nimmo, Nimmo, to me right now, it seems like he's like,
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  you're lucky to get him out. That's what I feel like.
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  I feel like when he's in the box, it's like if it's if it is,
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  you know, an infield little dinker, like it's a bang, bang
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  play. If he's lining out to
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  outfielders, like he's hitting balls hard through the infield,
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  like he's a tough out right now. And I know it didn't really
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  necessarily play a factor in in the 9th at all, but I mean just
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  little things that they're doing.
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  Winker stealing second scoring on that Marte single.
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  Like there's there's that was a crazy celebration.
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  By the way, did you catch that? Like wait.
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  Jesse Winker being over the top like colour, colour me shocks.
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  Calm down bro. Where did this come from?
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  I I don't remember Jesse Winker being this way at.
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  All throughout his career. Three years ago.
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  It's like once he came over to the Mets, it like unleashed
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  something. He somewhat had it with the Nats
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  earlier this year, but like once he got traded over, it's like
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  unleash. This can't bring my finger to
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  when it happened, but that sounds that sounds about.
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  Right. Weird.
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  Every team needs that guy though.
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  Every team needs like an instigator.
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  That's fair. Kind of guy and I feel like he
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  fits that role really well right now.
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  But anyway, man, like, I know I'm just kind of rambling and
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  breaking down what we all watched, but I, I, it's a team
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  that like, do you know, we saw it last year in the
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  Diamondbacks, like a team that just won't quit, a team that is
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  getting more and more comfortable in these types of
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  situations. And I think it's just like, give
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  our offense a chance. That's all the pitching needs to
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  do. Just give our offense a chance,
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  keep us close and we'll manage something.
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  We'll squeak out anything. And it's, and it's walks, it's
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  stolen bases, it's hitting behind runners, it's finding
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  holes. It's good base running as well.
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  You know, like it, it's, it's all there.
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  It's it's a lot going right. Yeah, I saw a lot of really
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  this, not even not just tonight, really this series show the
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  Mets. I saw a lot of playing within
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  yourself, not trying to do too much, like accepting the role
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  that's been placed before you in a given situation.
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  Trying to do as best you can in that situation with with what
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  you have, what you're able to bring to the table skill set
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  wise. And teams that are able to do
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  that, players that are able to do that find themselves finding
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  success. More often than not, it's the
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  guys. They go up there trying to do
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  too much. They're trying to hit a, an 8
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  run Homer when there's nobody on base that it, it doesn't work
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  out. But the Mets are just figuring,
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  like you said, if, if the if the staff, if the pen can find ways
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  to keep them in the game, keep it close and just give the
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  offense a chance and the offense is able to to play within their
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  cells. That's that's a pretty good
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  recipe for a win. Yeah, 100 percent, 100%, very
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  impressed. I really am.
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  This is I think as as good as I think the Brewers were this
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  year. I think this is this is how it
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  had to come down to it. You know, I mean like we, we
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  needed Mets fills. Yeah.
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  Oh, for sure. Yeah, this is the how it had to
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  happen. I don't know why I didn't put
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  two and two together. Like when we were going through
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  our predictions, I was like, yeah, you know, like, yeah,
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  like, 'cause I think I was just, so I was just so fixated on this
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  being like a different Brewers team.
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  And I was like, you know, I'm rarely going to go with the
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  Brewers in it when it comes to October, but this is an
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  opportunity for me to do that. So let me do that.
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  And then it was like after game one, I'm, I'm, I'm drawn.
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  I'm putting two and two together and I'm like, why would I not?
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  Why would I not want Mets, Phillies?
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  And this isn't similar to like, OK, to put it into perspective,
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  like if the Brave, if this year's Braves matched up against
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  the Phillies, that would do nothing for me.
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  And I'm just being honest, just given the the state of that
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  team. But the way that the Mets are
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  playing right now to go up against the Phillies, it's not
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  exactly Braves Phillies of, of last year or the year before,
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  but it's still Mets Phillies. And I I with the, with just the,
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  the, the mojo that the Mets have right now, that is going to be a
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  good series. Can you take me through?
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  I know it's been a while, but just when I think of like
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  Destiny teams and stuff, like do you remember the path for the
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  nationals to get to the. World Series.
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  So I was at the Wild Card game when Soto clutched up.
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  So they beat, they beat. Ironically, Hater was on the
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  mound when that, when that happened.
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  Beat the Brewers. We'll get to that.
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  Beat the Brewers in the wild card game and then they went to
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  oh, who was it after the Brewers?
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  The Dodgers were in there somewhere.
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  But was that the that would have been the NLC?
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  Oh, it was the Cardinals and then the Dodgers.
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  Or the Dodgers and then the Cardinals, and then obviously.
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  Houston Yeah. Yeah.
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  Well, I was thinking of like when I was, I was with you last
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  year when the Diamondbacks went through the Dodgers in LA and it
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  just just popped them in the mouth.
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  I remember in that first inning, then they put up like 7 against
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  Kershaw or something like that. It was like this immediate like
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  if we're the team of destiny, it's almost like there's one
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  team that you face. And I can't really remember the
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  Brewers of the Cardinals or the Dodgers of 2019 for the
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  Nationals case here. But like I think of like the
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  Diamondbacks and there's like there's one team you got to
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  prove it against. And I think this is the perfect
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  scenario, like if the Mets are real, this is where you prove
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  it. And I know that's like you still
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  got to get to the NLCS and then you don't through that and
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  through the World Series. But like, it's the Phillies,
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  it's the best team in baseball this year in my opinion.
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  And if you're real, if you're really doing this this year, it
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  there has to be this, this type of opponent.
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  I'm looking forward to it. I really, really am.
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  That's going to be electric. We're going to we're going to
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  get into a little bit of the division series preview.
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  We're certainly going to get into that late in the episode.
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  But to keep the theme moving along here, rap recap in the
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  wild card. Do you want to switch gears
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  here? You want to go?
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  You just want to work backwards at this point, 'cause I had I
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  had Mets, Brewers the last. So if we're going to work
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  backwards, let's go Braves, Padres.
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  This is a good one. This is a good one.
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  Is sandwich in? Yeah, sorry.
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  Yeah, we need. Where how are we at on time?
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  Do we can we, is this something maybe we can just we can just
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  fly right on by. I mean, look, if if you're the
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  Braves, why did you even bother to show up?
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  I mean, good for you I guess for for punching your ticket.
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  But like we, the Padres would have been better off inner
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  squatting one another these last couple days to prepare
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  themselves for the Division Series rather than them play the
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  Braves. I know.
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  We all knew that this is how it was going to go, and the Braves
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  did nothing but waste everyone's time.
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  I mean, why even bother? Why bother to show up?
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  You could have gotten a head start on your trip to Cancun,
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  but you said no. We're going to get a little
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  teaser out in San Diego to get to get warmed up for our trip to
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  Cancun. And you know, good for you for
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  taking the trip out there, but why'd you bother?
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  I just, I didn't even feel, I didn't even feel like any kind
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  of fire from that, like any kind of there was just nothing even
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  towards the end of the regular season.
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  Like it's just it their fan bases checked out.
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  I think their own players are checked out.
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  It's impressive that they even got to this point considering
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  the massive injuries. And I know every team has
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  injuries, but the names that they lost is detrimental.
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  And I, I, I just, I just never felt any type of any way about
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  them. And I think everyone knew that.
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  Everyone saw that. And I think they.
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  Felt it. And I think even the Padres fans
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  kind of felt it. I'm sitting there watching those
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  games. I'm going, this is like watching
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  like a 12 you Little League team beat up on some 9 year olds.
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  It's like, yeah, woo Hoo, we, you know, we won the game.
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  But like, what are we really doing out here?
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  I don't remember. First off, hats off to Michael
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  King. Game one.
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  Unbelievable. I got a little stat here for you
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  that I found Michael King is the first pitcher with 12 plus KS,
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  zero runs and zero walks in his first postseason start.
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  Yeah, that was an absolute clinic.
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  That was he's nasty, he's nasty, he was.
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  I was sad to see him go and now I know the Soto trade had to
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  happen. Well, let me ask you, I, I, I
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  saw a lot of people and I don't know if it was like tongue in
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  cheek or or, you know, taking a jab at Yankees fans, but I saw a
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  lot of people being like, all things considered, it seems like
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  a win, win trade. Yeah.
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  Looking back, yeah, I mean, he had a great year.
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  I think he threw 160, a 170 innings, sub 3 ERA like he for I
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  think it's his second full season as a starter.
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  I mean, it's it's impressive. The guy is legit.
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  That was the hardest, hardest part for that trade for me.
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  But yeah, I mean, obviously win, win.
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  But yeah, unbelievable, dude. That guy is ridiculous.
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  And not to mention kind of the Cliff note of that trade, Kyle
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  Ogashioka. Two big bombs, dude.
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  That's big time. Two big bombs.
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  That's big time. Unbelievable.
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  Just a very complete game and it's so crazy watching them
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  defensively. I don't even know how they rank
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  as like in the in defensive metrics.
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  But when you think about like Solano was at first, he's
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  definitely played shortstop in his career.
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  Cronenworth definitely played shortstop in his career.
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  Xander. Hello, Manny.
• 22:17
  Hello, Profar Tatis. You have an entire field of.
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  Shorts athletes. Just raw athletes.
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  And I know that like I'm we're biased because we were
• 22:27
  shortstops, but like the athleticism required to play
• 22:32
  that position and then you're seeing all of it just kind of
• 22:35
  spread out across the field is nuts, man.
• 22:38
  It's crazy. It's really, it's just it's very
• 22:43
  fun baseball to watch. Little concerned with Joe
• 22:50
  Musgrove. I like on a scale of one to 10.
• 22:54
  What do you think? So what's the latest on that
• 22:58
  because I was trying to, I was just keeping an eye out for
• 23:01
  updates on that throughout the day.
• 23:06
  I'm seeing his pitching, been pitching through discomfort for
• 23:09
  a couple weeks, but a test on his UCL left him feeling
• 23:14
  optimistic. Yeah, seems like a lot still up
• 23:21
  in the air right now. I don't think anything.
• 23:23
  I mean, he hasn't been ruled out or anything, at least at this
• 23:26
  moment. So yeah, I'm seeing UCLA test
• 23:31
  came back clean. So, you know, I don't know.
• 23:36
  Can I be honest with you though? Yeah, I feel like the Padres,
• 23:41
  even without Joe, Joe, this this Padres team this postseason, I,
• 23:47
  I think they're, I think they'll be all right.
• 23:49
  I really do. I agree.
• 23:51
  All, all fast. I mean, like you're getting
• 23:53
  clutch play by everybody, everybody.
• 23:58
  I mean, the fact that Tatis, that was the first home run of
• 24:01
  the the postseason at that point, like we had gone through
• 24:04
  a we had gone through a slate of games and then we had the finale
• 24:09
  that night to to close to wrap up the the day of baseball.
• 24:12
  And that was bottom one, bottom one, just go getting Petco
• 24:18
  unglued right out of the game. But yeah, I mean, it goes back
• 24:22
  to the just the environment, like Petco was rocking for sure.
• 24:26
  But just this, this, these two games, you just feel like you
• 24:30
  were watching an adult, an adult team watching, watch him beat up
• 24:36
  against some Little leaguers. It just wasn't fun, wasn't
• 24:39
  enjoyable. Yeah, we knew it.
• 24:41
  We we all saw it. We all know what's happening.
• 24:44
  Hey, shout out money Mike though, he gave it his he gave
• 24:47
  it his best go there at the end. He's like, I'm going to do what
• 24:49
  I can to to extend this thing. Had a had a two run bomb in the
• 24:55
  8th to bring within a run. But alas, we have the dot the
• 25:01
  Padres moving on to play the Dodgers for the third time in
• 25:08
  the NLDS in five years. I believe I read which this one
• 25:13
  feel different we'll get into yeah, a little different.
• 25:19
  Yeah, I yeah, feels a little different.
• 25:22
  And we're going to get again, we're going to we're certainly
• 25:24
  going to be previewing the the division series, but as as we
• 25:28
  had it last, we're going to going to move along to another
• 25:32
  series. We're going to talk Royals,
• 25:34
  Orioles. Yes, Nate, this is my Bobby Witt
• 25:39
  jersey that I purchased for winning the fantasy league.
• 25:42
  Thank you for asking. I mean, it's super clean, as you
• 25:45
  can see. I mean, look at that.
• 25:47
  I mean, what a beauty. What, what a beauty.
• 25:53
  What I mean, look at that, that there's not a better the the
• 25:58
  black O's jersey that I witnessed in person last night.
• 26:02
  That's to me is the best uniform baseball.
• 26:04
  But I tell you what the the the Powder blue Royals Bobby Witch
• 26:09
  jersey is second best. Give me what I mean, give me
• 26:12
  some reports, give me some reports of of you know, the
• 26:16
  obviously Camden is is gorgeous. You know that we know that, we
• 26:20
  all know that, but like anything else that like.
• 26:23
  You want to know my tell from TV?
• 26:27
  Well, I'll tell you what I experienced.
• 26:30
  Yeah, right there in person. You may have not gathered it on
• 26:32
  TVI told Meredith this on the way home.
• 26:35
  I was like no. And and we were walking out of
• 26:39
  the stadium and and I I looked over and I was like, I I think
• 26:44
  this fan base is a little shell shocked.
• 26:46
  I really do. Because there was, you say what
• 26:49
  people can say what they want. I was there, at least from what
• 26:53
  I could gather. I sensed 0 hope in the ninth.
• 26:57
  There was no energy, there was no momentum.
• 27:01
  They, they handed out the route. You and I were there for the DS
• 27:04
  against the Rangers last year. They handed out those rally
• 27:06
  towels. It was pretty much the same
• 27:07
  thing this year. They they handed them out and
• 27:09
  there were moments throughout the game where they were going.
• 27:11
  They were getting into it, especially after that Cedric
• 27:14
  bomb, which I got video of the reaction that that plays.
• 27:18
  Where were your seats, by the way?
• 27:18
  Where are we sitting? We're down the third baseline.
• 27:22
  OK, So this was like, this was a birthday thing.
• 27:25
  Meredith was like, hey, for your birthday.
• 27:27
  Happy belated, by the way. Thank you.
• 27:29
  That wasn't, that wasn't a a plug, that was me just trying to
• 27:32
  explain, explain the situation. So yeah, so it was like a little
• 27:35
  impromptu because you know how the post season develops, a lot
• 27:38
  of times it can be like very last minute.
• 27:39
  So we didn't really know. What the deal was.
• 27:41
  Oh yeah. But she was, she was like, hey,
• 27:44
  we're going to go to Baltimore for the, for the wild card game.
• 27:47
  So take work off. We're going to, we're going to
• 27:50
  head down. And so she's like, I'm going to
• 27:52
  need you to tell me what seats you want though.
• 27:54
  So I'm, I'm sitting there looking and I've, I wanted to be
• 28:00
  on the third base side because I wanted to have a better vantage
• 28:03
  point of Bobby, watch him do his thing.
• 28:06
  And so we were along the third baseline main concourse level up
• 28:12
  underneath the overhang. So I mean, it was prime, prime
• 28:16
  seats, prime seats. But yeah, I'm sitting there in
• 28:20
  the 9th and we're obviously there to the end.
• 28:22
  But I'm, I'm sitting there in the 9th and I'm looking around.
• 28:24
  I'm going, I'm not a nose fan, but I, I, I can sense like more
• 28:30
  probably more objectively than they can do.
• 28:33
  They're, they're shell shocked and they're, they're fearful.
• 28:36
  And this was before the game was even over.
• 28:37
  I'm looking around going, they're fearful of repeating
• 28:40
  exactly what happened last year. And it had me thinking today and
• 28:44
  I had to ask myself this question.
• 28:46
  I'm sitting, I'm literally driving to where I'm like at
• 28:48
  work and I'm driving and I'm sitting there asking myself, how
• 28:53
  many more post season sweeps is it going to take for us to start
• 28:58
  asking, is this Baltimore Orioles team, maybe not the team
• 29:04
  we thought they were? And I know that may come across
• 29:07
  as a little, little strong, but we're looking at now five
• 29:13
  straight postseason losses from this at from this Orioles team
• 29:18
  as it's constructed. You know, the, the gunner, the
• 29:20
  adly, so on and so forth. How many more?
• 29:24
  How many more post? Seasons at home.
• 29:26
  At home, yeah. Because I mean, you, you you
• 29:31
  zoom out a little bit pre Adly, pre gunner, all that we're
• 29:35
  talking what do we got here? 10 straight postseason losses
• 29:40
  for the Orioles going back to 2014, ten straight postseason
• 29:45
  losses. And I'm I'm certainly not going
• 29:47
  to hang those those previous 5 on this current team that
• 29:50
  nothing they can do about it. But this team as it as it's
• 29:53
  constructed, five straight losses, four of those at home.
• 30:01
  When, when are we going to start asking the the tough questions
• 30:04
  with this Orioles team that maybe, just maybe they're not as
• 30:09
  as much of A powerhouse as we're making them out to be?
• 30:12
  And that's not, I love this Orioles team.
• 30:14
  Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love this Orioles team.
• 30:16
  I love majority of the guys, if not all the guys on this team.
• 30:21
  But when are we going to start asking the tough questions
• 30:23
  because they need to be asked? It's a fair question.
• 30:28
  It's absolutely a fair question at home.
• 30:31
  Is disgraceful to not get at least the dub.
• 30:35
  Gunner Henderson went over the week.
• 30:38
  Yeah. I mean.
• 30:41
  That's what that's that's what I when we were previewing, I told
• 30:45
  you that Cole Reagan's from the left side game one was a genius
• 30:50
  because when you start switching guys, those those big switch
• 30:54
  hitters in Adley and and Santander, when you switch them
• 30:57
  to their non dominant side or they're you know, I don't know
• 31:01
  about Adley. I think he's still pretty good
• 31:02
  righty. But either way, these obviously
• 31:05
  got the pop on the left side. So like to switch them to the
• 31:09
  non dominant side to get a gunner going left on left and at
• 31:14
  a team that I think like already has lacked confidence for months
• 31:18
  now to not be able to do anything.
• 31:22
  Nothing in game one offensively it I think they're in for big
• 31:31
  changes one. Run over 18 innings.
• 31:35
  I think they're in for big changes.
• 31:37
  I think Hyde is. I think Hyde is out.
• 31:39
  I think it's just a matter of time.
• 31:41
  No, that I did you not see it today they announced, they
• 31:43
  announced he's coming back. Today it's been announced that
• 31:47
  he's coming back. How do you Why?
• 31:52
  Why? How?
• 31:54
  Couldn't tell you. Yeah, that that one may have
• 31:57
  slipped through the cracks. I know you're busy with work
• 31:58
  today, but yeah, that was a nice day.
• 32:02
  Couldn't tell you all. Right.
• 32:04
  Well, I mean, I'm curious, I'm I'm assuming burns OPS for free
• 32:11
  agency, right? Because he has an option?
• 32:16
  I think he has an option. I don't think so.
• 32:20
  I thought he was set. I thought he was just set to be
• 32:23
  a free agent. I thought he had an option.
• 32:25
  Thought he was UFA after this year.
• 32:27
  Yeah, I think things are going to look very different now.
• 32:29
  I know you're going to, you know, have the Orioles fans with
• 32:33
  excuses of not having Felix Batista this year.
• 32:36
  And no, no. You know, not having the back
• 32:38
  end of the bullpen and Craig Kimbrel not performing.
• 32:41
  The truth is like I think the these last few months have been
• 32:44
  on the offense. I really do.
• 32:46
  So I don't know what it's going to, what it's going to look
• 32:49
  like, But you know, I think things kind of have to be
• 32:53
  adjusted here. Things are going to have to
• 32:54
  change. They need more pitching as well.
• 32:58
  So I mean, just it's it's ugly. I don't understand the Brandon
• 33:02
  Hyde coming back thing. What is that about?
• 33:04
  I'm not, I'm that's the least of my worries, to be honest with
• 33:07
  you at this point. Like there's guys that are on
• 33:09
  the field that are are actively impacting the game or they have
• 33:15
  the opportunity to actively impact the game and they're just
• 33:18
  not. And that's more of a concern to
• 33:20
  me. You the fact that you have
• 33:21
  gunner going over the fact that Adley has just been on a brutal
• 33:25
  slide the last what month and a half, two months and you were
• 33:32
  hoping that. Sometimes there might not come
• 33:35
  back, you know what I mean? Like that might that guy.
• 33:38
  When you have a team that is going to have to commit to
• 33:41
  multiple young core guys, I don't think you can afford when
• 33:45
  you also have to address your starting pitching.
• 33:48
  I don't think they can afford a Santander contract this
• 33:50
  offseason. I think he's gone.
• 33:53
  That's a 40 home run guy leaving the lineup.
• 33:56
  See, like even this conversation that you and I are having right
• 33:58
  now, I hate that we're having it because it's like, because, I
• 34:02
  mean, you got you excited. About this team.
• 34:04
  You're right. I mean, you go back to our
• 34:05
  preseason predictions. I can't remember what what you
• 34:07
  had. I.
• 34:08
  Had them winning the division. I well, I had them in the world.
• 34:11
  Series in the World Series, Yeah, I think we both had
• 34:13
  Orioles fills, right? Yeah.
• 34:15
  And I think maybe we just alternated who was who was
• 34:17
  winning it. But like I, I don't think we're
• 34:20
  the only ones that had that situation.
• 34:21
  And here we are talking two games.
• 34:24
  We saw them for two games, lifeless games, again, one run
• 34:30
  over 18 innings. And I saw, I saw a tweet and I
• 34:34
  rarely do I literally laugh out loud when I'm at the office.
• 34:38
  But I read this tweet where it said I want to congratulate the
• 34:41
  Orioles on their postseason run. And by run, I mean the singular
• 34:44
  run that they scored in Game 2. And I saw that.
• 34:48
  And I'm like. That's.
• 34:50
  Good. I hate that I'm laughing at the
• 34:51
  expense of this team right now, but I mean, at some point there
• 34:55
  has to be some accountability and like the IT would I just I
• 34:59
  can't, I can't believe that we're sitting here talking about
• 35:01
  the Orioles season being done. I, I can't and I, I don't mean
• 35:04
  to like focus on them and take away from what the Royals said.
• 35:06
  The Royals. Royals are playing.
• 35:09
  The Royals are doing what they do and it's and it's play really
• 35:14
  good defense, it's really good pitching and Bobby is going to
• 35:21
  impact the game offensively in one way or another.
• 35:24
  He had both go ahead runs or both game-winning hits.
• 35:30
  I believe in in both games. Both with two outs I believe as
• 35:35
  well. Yeah, the one was the one.
• 35:38
  In game two, game one was the game one was that single up the
• 35:41
  middle and then he legged out Game 2.
• 35:45
  Yeah, man, speed, his defense. I know it's easy to look at
• 35:53
  gunner and and say like, oh, like, you know, shortstop in
• 35:56
  Baltimore. We see Cal Ripken all over
• 35:58
  again. I see more of Cal Ripken and
• 36:01
  Bobby Witt junior than than anybody.
• 36:03
  The specifically defensively it it looks good.
• 36:11
  It looks really, really good in the hole.
• 36:16
  The slow rollers where he's he's going like slightly bare hand
• 36:20
  side throwing against his body like and he's very comfortable
• 36:24
  throwing underneath. I had Nerd out on a lot of that
• 36:28
  and it reminds me a lot of Cal. I see.
• 36:31
  I'll be honest with you, I see a lot of Nomar in Bobby just
• 36:34
  because I, because I, I mean, you look at Nomar's athleticism
• 36:38
  compared to Cows and it's not a knock against Cow, but Cow was
• 36:40
  just a massive guy. Cow was big and and you can only
• 36:44
  move. So I'm talking, I'm talking
• 36:47
  younger shortstop Cal sure. No, versus the shoulder Cal that
• 36:51
  you know we saw him move to 3rd. Cal laying out, yeah, to to his
• 36:55
  left or right. I see that.
• 36:57
  I mean, you, you see Bobby get the balls that that most guys
• 37:00
  can't get to. It's just it, it's very, it's
• 37:02
  very fun to watch, man. It's very fun to watch.
• 37:05
  But yeah, I mean, look, the Royals, yeah, they look good.
• 37:12
  Quick little shot at at Ryan Ripken for his his little wild
• 37:16
  card, you know, prediction saying that, you know, the
• 37:20
  Orioles aren't scared to go to New York.
• 37:22
  Well, too bad. We won't have to worry about
• 37:25
  that, Ryan. So.
• 37:28
  They might have to go in street clothes at this point if they
• 37:30
  want to go to New York, sadly. Oh, man.
• 37:35
  By the way, did you I I'm sure you were watching.
• 37:37
  Did you see Ryan our our different friend Ryan behind
• 37:40
  home plate last night? Yeah.
• 37:42
  Calvin and Calvin and the Kid. Yeah, Lance texts a lot during
• 37:48
  the game. I don't know if you noticed.
• 37:49
  That that's a busy man. He's got a lot going on.
• 37:52
  He's probably, he's probably setting up his his podcast
• 37:58
  schedule for the rest of the year, watching Game A.
• 38:01
  Lot going on, a lot going on. Do you see do you see the clip
• 38:05
  floating around on Twitter today of his reaction to Cedric's home
• 38:07
  run? Cedric makes contact with I
• 38:09
  think Rocco tweeted it out. Shout out Rocco tweeted out the
• 38:13
  slow MO video of Ryan reacting to the Cedric gets into it and
• 38:17
  he's like and he like gets up out of his seat.
• 38:22
  Meanwhile, Cal is just like. Yeah.
• 38:25
  Classic Cal Meredith, Meredith looked at over at me multiple
• 38:28
  times because I was like, yeah, Cal is on areas with Ryan and,
• 38:31
  and and the rest of the crew. And she was, she was like, does
• 38:35
  Cal ever cheer? I was like, no, Cal not so much.
• 38:39
  And and then she was like, she was like, does he do you think
• 38:42
  he waves the rally towel? And I was like, no, he doesn't.
• 38:45
  He's he's no, no John, no shot. Yeah, he especially has no
• 38:50
  reason this year to be waving it because I mean, talk about talk
• 38:54
  about a team that let him down. That's what I was going to ask
• 38:57
  you because like I know we talked about, I think you and I
• 39:00
  both picked this as like the most looking forward to series
• 39:03
  of the wild card options. I think this is the biggest
• 39:06
  disappointment. I mean, this is brutal.
• 39:09
  It was a Outside of Corbin Burns, I have nothing positive
• 39:14
  to say about the Orioles. I'm I'm legitimately trying to
• 39:19
  think like gunner. I mean, talking about defense
• 39:22
  from gunner like he he he got to some balls that were, you know,
• 39:28
  makes you turn your head a little bit.
• 39:30
  But outside of there just wasn't.
• 39:32
  And going back to the Cedric thing, I'm, I'm sitting there
• 39:35
  thinking last night as I'm watching, I'm go, how ironic is
• 39:37
  it that the guy that these fans wanted to run out of town
• 39:40
  because of how poorly he was hitting this year is the guy
• 39:43
  that contributes the only run that the team scores in the wild
• 39:47
  card series? That's bad, dude.
• 39:50
  I mean, I'm sitting there, I'm watching and I'm going.
• 39:53
  Surely Cedric Mullins is not going to be the guy to hit the
• 39:55
  home run. Yeah.
• 40:01
  I I don't, I'm not out on this Orioles team, but I'm going to
• 40:03
  need to take AI think. I if they run it back next year
• 40:09
  with minimal offseason moves, I'm very much questioning what's
• 40:15
  happening here. I need to take a break from
• 40:18
  these these baby OS. I just, I don't want ownership
• 40:21
  to come in and and not rock the boat too much.
• 40:25
  I don't want that to be the mentality.
• 40:27
  You know what I mean? Come in, change things.
• 40:31
  You have a culture. The problem is now is that you
• 40:35
  have a fan base that has expectations.
• 40:37
  It's been fun, right? It's been fonded.
• 40:41
  Watch, you know, all this youth and promise finally start to
• 40:49
  develop in front of our eyes. But now, moving forward, there's
• 40:53
  expectations. Go out and get some proven
• 40:55
  talent enough. Enough fun to do some stuff.
• 40:58
  Yeah, they got to do some stuff. They got to spend some money.
• 41:03
  Hey, Speaking of youth, OK, let's talk about these tigers.
• 41:08
  Let's talk about these tigers. I got to be honest, man, that
• 41:12
  this one had me cheesing. I was, you know what?
• 41:17
  Hey, I was glad. I was super glad to be wrong
• 41:19
  here. Yeah, I was just about to say
• 41:21
  I'm happy to take the yell on this prediction.
• 41:24
  And honestly, I I knew that if people were going to come at us
• 41:27
  for our our picks on that graphic that I posted before all
• 41:30
  these games started, I was like, you know what, have at it.
• 41:33
  Like I'm, I'm more than happy to, like you said, I'm more than
• 41:36
  happy to be wrong here. That mean this was a fun like
• 41:39
  granted, it was a sweep, but like this was a fun.
• 41:45
  You can like you can always make the argument for the Royals and
• 41:47
  the Orioles. You could maybe depend upon
• 41:50
  where you where you're at between those teams.
• 41:52
  You could say like you and I both had them going into I
• 41:56
  think, or at least you did. I don't remember if I finalized
• 41:59
  on two or three the Royals Orioles series.
• 42:03
  We both said 2. Did we both said two?
• 42:05
  OK, so like you and I can look at that and go it's sort of
• 42:08
  predictable, but like, you know, the Orioles might put up a
• 42:11
  fight. This was the Tigers Astros
• 42:15
  series was fun because I don't think this this outcome was on
• 42:19
  the mind too many people. I mean to go into Houston and
• 42:22
  just take 2 immediately and get out of.
• 42:24
  Town, I think, I think a lot of people, including us, said game
• 42:27
  one Tigers can do it. Scubal, I'm going to give them
• 42:31
  the edge there. I just.
• 42:33
  And for the record, remember when I played, when I played
• 42:35
  devil's advocate and I was like, why are we just get, why are we
• 42:38
  chalking up Tarek Scubal as an automatic win?
• 42:40
  They got Framber, but remember I walked it back and I said with
• 42:45
  that said I'm giving terrorism the win in game one and he went
• 42:48
  out and he went out and did his thing.
• 42:51
  Yeah, I think my biggest take away, I kind of mentioned this
• 42:56
  same thing earlier, but like their biggest runs were with two
• 43:01
  outs, their biggest runs game one.
• 43:07
  I think it was just like single you to death and get those three
• 43:13
  runs across all RBI. Singles.
• 43:16
  The three runs I scored? Yep.
• 43:18
  And then obviously the big moment of Ibania is against
• 43:22
  hater was that two out double down the line?
• 43:27
  In game. Two, yeah, yeah.
• 43:28
  And that's like that's the, that's the story, right?
• 43:31
  Those, I mean, those are the runs.
• 43:33
  That's basically the biggest moments offensively for them.
• 43:39
  Well, not to not to skip ahead to game two.
• 43:41
  I want to I want to touch on something real quick in game one
• 43:43
  that I I immediately thought of you when it happened bases
• 43:47
  loaded in the bottom of the ninth two outs, Jason Hayward
• 43:53
  steps to plate. And I immediately went back to
• 43:55
  what you said when this acquisition happened where you
• 43:57
  said. He's going to have a moment You.
• 43:59
  Know that he's going to have a moment in the postseason.
• 44:02
  I said talk about a moment. Yeah, talk about a moment.
• 44:06
  You have an opportunity in game one right away to set the tone
• 44:10
  for your team for the remainder of the month.
• 44:12
  Should you? Should you advance that far.
• 44:14
  I. Hit a freaking rocket though.
• 44:16
  Oh man, I hit a rocket. I thought that was it.
• 44:19
  I thought that was it. That was a Lena.
• 44:23
  Unbelievable. Yeah.
• 44:27
  Yeah, but but then going to game two, you said that you were
• 44:31
  talking about the story of Andy Banya's bass is clearing double.
• 44:35
  Certainly the story there. But I what I don't want to get
• 44:37
  lost here is Hunter Brown. His efforts on the mound went
• 44:42
  five and 1/3, had 9 K's and and then you have to remember the
• 44:49
  five and 2/3. Excuse me, I don't know if I
• 44:51
  said 5 and a third. You have to remember that this
• 44:56
  is a season in which he had some ups and downs, where he had
• 44:59
  some. People.
• 45:00
  He had some fantasy for a while and that was interesting.
• 45:04
  Yeah, include you had people including us talk about like,
• 45:07
  you know, maybe it's time to to step away from the Hunter Brown
• 45:11
  hype train for a moment and you wonder, OK, how how is the ups
• 45:15
  and downs of the season going to play out in the postseason?
• 45:18
  And that mean as best as he could have done.
• 45:21
  He he showed up and showed out only gave up a run over those
• 45:24
  five and 2/3. But the 9 KS is what was
• 45:26
  impressive, especially you talk about a pesky Tigers team to to
• 45:30
  get swings and misses like that. I mean, that's tip of the cap to
• 45:34
  Hunter Brown. Yeah, for sure.
• 45:38
  It's just it seemed like a little lack of depth offensively
• 45:47
  that we're not normally used to seeing from the Astros.
• 45:51
  No offense against, you know, like a Jason Hayward or, you
• 45:54
  know, a Carrantini. I think Yiner Diaz did not come
• 46:02
  through in a few moments. There was a couple opportunities
• 46:06
  that he had that he didn't come through in it.
• 46:11
  Just it just didn't feel like the offense was really clicking
• 46:17
  and going for the Astros. But interested to see how things
• 46:23
  go from here. Was this, you know, the last
• 46:26
  time we see Alex Bregman in an Astros uniform?
• 46:29
  That's that's a big question for me.
• 46:31
  I don't know if you saw his tweet and I don't know, I mean,
• 46:33
  I don't know if it even makes sense to read into, but he it
• 46:36
  was something to the effect. I think it was just like, thank
• 46:39
  you, Houston, Nothing else. He just said thank you, Houston.
• 46:42
  So I don't know if that's just like a like AI don't know if
• 46:44
  he's done that in the past or? If this is a different tells me
• 46:47
  that just like a just in case, you know, just in case, just in
• 46:50
  case you don't you never know how things shake out.
• 46:53
  That that to me seems like a guy that's just willing to, you
• 46:56
  know, listen, listen to the offers and he's going to have
• 46:59
  some offers a rough start to the season, but I think he ended up
• 47:03
  similar to the back of his baseball card.
• 47:06
  So and he was what I don't know, maybe 6 inches away from lifting
• 47:12
  that ball into the Crawford seats and probably changing the
• 47:16
  vibe a little bit end up just being a long single.
• 47:20
  So yeah, it's I'm interested to see and what happens with the
• 47:27
  with the Astros. I did see an update that
• 47:30
  Verlander is not retiring, which is interesting.
• 47:35
  Yeah, yeah. I mean, you have to imagine a
• 47:36
  guy like that with his resume probably doesn't want to go out
• 47:40
  like this. Does that bug you?
• 47:43
  Does it bug you when, when announcements like this come out
• 47:47
  so close, like there's such a such like a like, not just
• 47:53
  players, but like even with the Orioles thing, with like the
• 47:55
  Brandon Hyde thing, like can we, why don't we take some time
• 47:58
  before we just come out with these things?
• 48:00
  Like can we get out of the emotional state after a loss
• 48:04
  before we just publicly announce?
• 48:06
  Things well, I, I, I think that's exactly why I can't speak
• 48:10
  for the Verlander situation, nor can I really speak for the
• 48:13
  Brandon Hyde. This is more of just like a
• 48:14
  guess, but my my guess is that they're trying to do just that.
• 48:19
  They're trying to avoid the emotional state kicking in to
• 48:24
  where, I mean, people were doing it the second the final outs
• 48:26
  made. Yeah, that I mean, I was I was
• 48:29
  walking through the concourse and people were just, I mean,
• 48:33
  just ripping in the hide. And so I think I think the
• 48:36
  reason maybe that happened so close is that business decision
• 48:39
  was probably made before these games even happened.
• 48:42
  And they're just like, let's see how it goes.
• 48:44
  But this is what's going to happen in 2025.
• 48:48
  We'll we'll see how this wild card series goes.
• 48:50
  I don't know. And then the games are over.
• 48:52
  And then they go, well, let's not let any narratives build.
• 48:55
  Let's not let reporters get their their turn at the, you
• 49:01
  know, to to just RIP into this guy.
• 49:04
  Let's just take care of this right away so people are clear
• 49:07
  as to what's happened moving forward.
• 49:09
  I don't know. It's hard to say.
• 49:10
  Yeah. It's just strange.
• 49:12
  Let it, let it, let it die out a little bit.
• 49:14
  Let it. Let's come down.
• 49:17
  Speaking of dying out, what's what do we think the deals with
• 49:19
  Josh Hader? Because I've got a little he
• 49:27
  didn't. Start the inning, Did he?
• 49:29
  I don't think he started the inning.
• 49:32
  I think there was one or two guys on when he came in.
• 49:35
  Yeah, it was. Well, Presley got hit with the
• 49:37
  loss. So it was, it would have been,
• 49:39
  it would have been Presley, but a lot I saw a lot of, I saw a
• 49:43
  lot of back and forth about Josh Hader and his ability or like
• 49:46
  his, his well, yeah, his ability to make things happen in the big
• 49:51
  moments. I saw I had to go back and look
• 49:54
  at his post season numbers because I I wanted to zoom out a
• 49:57
  little bit and look beyond because people are talking like
• 49:59
  I'm seeing the memes already like Josh Hader in 2024.
• 50:02
  And it's like that picture of Jose Bautista and like, and I
• 50:06
  don't remember what uniform he's wearing, but essentially
• 50:09
  implying that he's washed. And so I was like, well, let me
• 50:14
  let me zoom out here and and look at the big picture here.
• 50:16
  Josh Hader in nine postseason series, postseason series has a
• 50:22
  career ERA of 164. He has a 33 to six career K to
• 50:29
  walk ratio in the postseason. He only has four earned runs
• 50:34
  charged to his name. So like, I do understand that
• 50:37
  like with inherited runners and all of that, I understand that
• 50:39
  that's certainly a factor here. But just in terms of what he's
• 50:44
  doing individually, I don't know how much of this is like, oh,
• 50:52
  well, haters wash. Career wise, yeah, he's had a
• 50:57
  couple not so great moments. But like, at the end of the day,
• 51:01
  I'm, I'm not, I'm not putting all of this on Josh Hater.
• 51:07
  I'm not. I don't, I didn't really feel
• 51:10
  that way. I think it's, it's an
• 51:12
  interesting move. It's it's interesting to go.
• 51:17
  I know you were so quick to get to the closer like we and, and I
• 51:21
  know that the the new idea of just getting to that closer at
• 51:30
  the biggest moment versus not necessarily always saving him
• 51:34
  for the 9th and saving him for the close.
• 51:36
  When we need them is when we need them.
• 51:40
  I just thought it was interesting that you're not
• 51:44
  giving him an opportunity to start with a clean inning
• 51:49
  because you've I've seen, I've seen hater countless times give
• 51:54
  up a double like that to a lead off guy and then that guy's
• 51:57
  stuck at second. I've seen that a million times
• 52:00
  out of him. So it's like I, I don't know,
• 52:03
  it's just it's a tough moment to come into.
• 52:07
  Also at the same time, if you leave a Presley in or bring
• 52:10
  someone else in and hater's still in the bullpen and that
• 52:13
  happens. Not the best look, you know what
• 52:17
  I mean? So it's like I it's it's a
• 52:19
  difficult situation. I think the right button was
• 52:21
  pressed. It's just it's not easy.
• 52:26
  Closers are are, you know, we're all creatures that have it in
• 52:30
  the game. But like closers are for sure
• 52:33
  and not having a clean inning to start with in in clear basis to
• 52:37
  start with is is interesting. That's all.
• 52:39
  It's just a tough moment. Which brings me to a point that
• 52:45
  I was hoping that we could get to you.
• 52:46
  You think back on some of the the bigger moments that Josh
• 52:51
  Hader maybe didn't come through. We mentioned the Nats back in
• 52:54
  2019. He was on the hill for that.
• 52:56
  You'd think back to this moment against the Tigers nationals
• 53:01
  proven to be a team of destiny in 2019.
• 53:04
  The way that the Tigers are playing in 2024.
• 53:07
  I look I, I, I understand the Mets are are are pushing hard
• 53:11
  for that title of team of destiny right now with the way
• 53:13
  they're playing. And to be fair, maybe we give
• 53:17
  them the the the early advantage out of the out of the wild card
• 53:21
  gate if you will. But I'm not going to rule out
• 53:24
  the Tigers as being a possible team of destiny here because as
• 53:28
  as great as the Mets series was and the as great as their effort
• 53:33
  was to go into Milwaukee on the road and to take game three,
• 53:37
  which I I would argue more pressure there.
• 53:41
  The Tigers went into Houston, Houston and took, like I said,
• 53:47
  took 2 immediately before the Astros even knew what happened.
• 53:54
  And now they're on to the Division Series.
• 53:57
  So like kind of transition here from hater to like bigger
• 54:02
  picture Tigers team of destiny. What do we think as we
• 54:09
  transition now to looking ahead to the division series?
• 54:13
  Because we have, we have the Tigers lining up against the
• 54:16
  Guardians. That's a familiar foes, you
• 54:24
  know, Very familiar. It's it's going to be
• 54:29
  interesting. I think there you're always
• 54:32
  curious on like a team that is hot versus the first round by
• 54:37
  team and like how dominant is that first round by team?
• 54:41
  How dominant are the guardians? Like, if we're going to sit back
• 54:45
  and really ask that question, how dominant are they?
• 54:50
  Are they gettable? The fact that.
• 54:55
  We're go over the tigers. The fact that we're asking that
• 54:58
  question about the guardians tells you what you need to know.
• 55:01
  And I'm not trying to hint here at any any predictions coming
• 55:04
  down the pipe here in just a minute.
• 55:06
  But like that I had that same exact thought.
• 55:09
  I'm going once again, we're now revisiting the topic of would
• 55:14
  you rather be a wild card team that advances or would you
• 55:17
  rather be a first round bye team that gets the rest?
• 55:21
  And what is that dynamic look like?
• 55:23
  How does how does one team respond versus the other?
• 55:28
  And like you said, with the way the Tigers are playing.
• 55:31
  Keep it rolling, you know. I, you know, I, I still have my
• 55:35
  thoughts about the Mets. They've they're, they're
• 55:37
  continuing to prove me wrong. The the over the last week or
• 55:40
  so, to me, the Detroit Tigers are a team of destiny because
• 55:47
  you look at a team like the Tigers, a team of destiny.
• 55:50
  There's one every single year, it seems, if not every year,
• 55:55
  just about every year. It doesn't matter if there's
• 55:58
  holes in the lineup. It doesn't matter if there's
• 55:59
  holes in the rotation and the bullpen on the base pass.
• 56:03
  They figure out ways to plug the holes and to advance the machine
• 56:09
  forward and the Tigers are continuing to do that.
• 56:13
  They took Terex Scubble, they plugged him into game one,
• 56:16
  shockingly. I know, crazy.
• 56:18
  You throw Tarek Scubble out there Game 1, he does what Tarek
• 56:21
  Scubble does Game 2. AJ Hinch said we're going to
• 56:25
  unleash chaos from the pen in game two.
• 56:28
  You and I go. I don't know that that sounds a
• 56:31
  little risky to me. As good as your pen is to go
• 56:34
  into, to say you're going to go into Houston and unleash chaos
• 56:37
  from the pen. Bold move, Cotton.
• 56:39
  Let's see if it pays off. What does the bullpen do?
• 56:42
  They go in and unleash chaos offensively.
• 56:46
  They're coming up with the big hits.
• 56:48
  The emotion is plain for the Tigers.
• 56:53
  You look at the what you look at the formula that's that's
• 56:55
  required to be considered a team of destiny, and you look at the
• 56:59
  previous teams over previous seasons that have have fit that
• 57:02
  bill. I don't see how the Detroit
• 57:04
  Tigers are any different. Yeah, I'm with you.
• 57:07
  I hear you. I definitely hear you.
• 57:10
  Especially when you look at who they play next and that's you.
• 57:14
  You chalk that up. That's one step closer.
• 57:16
  You know what I mean? If you're the Detroit Tigers,
• 57:18
  you're not scared of the guardians.
• 57:20
  If anything that you know, the pressure is on the guardians.
• 57:26
  I kind of like it. I kind of like it.
• 57:28
  You mentioned a big name. It's AJ Hinch, man.
• 57:34
  Like I, I think when you're talking about a team that has
• 57:39
  any type of destiny, when you're talking about a team that may
• 57:42
  have some gaps, may, you know, lack certain things when you
• 57:47
  have a manager that's been there, done that and it's calm,
• 57:50
  cool, collected. Bingo.
• 57:52
  And I think you're starting to sell me a little bit.
• 58:00
  I like the Guardians, man, Like I do, I think these guys are
• 58:03
  very good. I I really, I'm really looking
• 58:06
  forward to this series. I like as a, if you're just, you
• 58:10
  know, a regular old baseball fan and you're a fan of like games
• 58:15
  being played the right way and all facets of the game being
• 58:19
  included, this is the series for you, man.
• 58:23
  This is the series. I mean, you want to talk
• 58:25
  pedigrees of these teams, you can make the argument that this
• 58:30
  is, on paper at least, this will be the least entertaining series
• 58:33
  of the four. You're talking about Matt
• 58:35
  Phillies, You're talking Royal, You're talking Bobby Witt, Aaron
• 58:39
  Judge on the same field. What yet?
• 58:41
  Again, Padres, Dodgers, Yeah, this is like the least
• 58:46
  marketable series, I agree, but I think we're.
• 58:50
  We're amped for it. I think it's, I think it's going
• 58:53
  to be very, very good baseball. Timely hitting, bunting, stolen
• 58:59
  bases, hit and runs, scoring from first in the gap.
• 59:04
  I mean, just good defense, good pitching.
• 59:06
  Like it's going to have every aspect of the game.
• 59:09
  Great managers. Say what you will about AJ
• 59:12
  Hinch, he's a great manager. Stephen Vogt should win manager
• 59:18
  of the year in my opinion. Like, this is a very good series
• 59:24
  man. Yeah, you take the whole, I know
• 59:28
  this is going to rub people the wrong way.
• 59:29
  You take the whole scandal out of the picture.
• 59:32
  For AJ Hinch, you're looking at 2 very bright baseball minds.
• 59:35
  And I know, yeah, I use that phrase a lot.
• 59:37
  But like, there aren't as many of those in the game as you
• 59:40
  might think. And, and for me, there are
• 59:43
  certain, like you have to check certain boxes to be considered
• 59:47
  like a a brilliant baseball mind.
• 59:49
  You can't just be a guy that reads the recommendations from
• 59:53
  upstairs. You can't just be a guy that
• 59:55
  relies on on percentages or matchups.
• 1:00:00
  You have to have that that it factor.
• 1:00:04
  You have to have that that gut feel for the game and that that
• 1:00:08
  finger on the pulse. And Stephen Vogt has already
• 1:00:10
  shown you not just in his playing career, but what he's
• 1:00:14
  done as a as a, as a manager as well.
• 1:00:17
  He has that. And you know, AJ Hinge has that
• 1:00:20
  as well. So I mean, for for no other
• 1:00:24
  reason but managers, you could argue that this is just a, a
• 1:00:27
  yeah, going to be a, a good series.
• 1:00:29
  I was curious on on overall record throughout the year.
• 1:00:33
  Tigers are six and seven against the Guardians this year.
• 1:00:39
  Right down the middle of the road, you know what I mean?
• 1:00:40
  As as middle as you can get with this new 13 game, you know, in
• 1:00:44
  Division series sets. Who you thinking?
• 1:00:48
  How many games with that said middle middle of the middle of
• 1:00:52
  the road here. And look, I know, but and and
• 1:01:00
  don't I'm going to I'm going to say to not let me influence your
• 1:01:04
  picks. But I know by me saying that
• 1:01:06
  that it like ironically influences your picks.
• 1:01:09
  But like feel free to like we don't have to.
• 1:01:12
  Don't let me trying to sell you on the Tigers as a team of
• 1:01:15
  destiny lead you to pick the Tigers.
• 1:01:17
  Because I'm worried that like we're going to we're going to
• 1:01:19
  end up at the end of this with like the same amount of or same
• 1:01:22
  picks or whatever. And if we do like so be it.
• 1:01:24
  But like, feel free to go like if if you've been, if you've had
• 1:01:28
  narratives running in your mind or like gut feels about certain
• 1:01:31
  teams to this point, run with that.
• 1:01:33
  Yeah, I get it. I mean that that goes without
• 1:01:38
  saying, but I just want to remind you.
• 1:01:39
  I'm going Guardians in four. Are you really OK?
• 1:01:44
  Class A does not let that kind of stuff happen.
• 1:01:51
  That's just not going to happen. And again, when you shorten a
• 1:01:54
  game and it's not sexy, I don't think either of these teams do
• 1:02:01
  it in a very sexy way. Not a whole lot of pop.
• 1:02:05
  Granted, the Guardians are great at home and and whatever's
• 1:02:08
  happening in that in that ballpark right now power wise, I
• 1:02:12
  don't know if it's going to be addressed, but the balls fly in
• 1:02:15
  there that I just I I think they have very similar styles
• 1:02:22
  offensively. I think the guardians are
• 1:02:26
  guardians are just quietly good. I'll give the Tigers the for
• 1:02:32
  I'll give the Tigers game one. I think the Tigers will get game
• 1:02:35
  one just based on vibes and and how they've been rolling.
• 1:02:39
  But I'm going, I'm going Guardians and four.
• 1:02:46
  Guardians, with all due respect, you can take your days off and
• 1:02:49
  shove it. I'm taking the Tigers are hot
• 1:02:52
  and I'm running. I'm rolling with the Tigers.
• 1:02:55
  I'm rolling with the Tigers. I can't in one breath call them
• 1:02:58
  a team of destiny and then in the same breath say, yeah, but
• 1:03:02
  you're going to run into a division rival.
• 1:03:04
  And then and that's where the that's where the road ends.
• 1:03:06
  Sorry, I I can't do it. Tigers.
• 1:03:08
  I'm taking the Tigers. And how many games?
• 1:03:19
  It's got to be 5. I'll go five.
• 1:03:21
  Yeah. I mean, you mentioned Class A
• 1:03:22
  like Class A, it has to be a factor here.
• 1:03:25
  And I'm not I, I can't foresee anything going South if he is on
• 1:03:30
  the mound and I'm I would imagine he's.
• 1:03:33
  Literally won't. It hasn't happened in over a
• 1:03:35
  year or so, but the man is. Unbelievable.
• 1:03:40
  Yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to go, I'm going to go Tigers in
• 1:03:42
  five. I'm going to give the Guardians
• 1:03:44
  a respect. I'm going to especially give
• 1:03:45
  Stephen Vogt the respect he's earned in in a short amount of
• 1:03:48
  time. But I'm the I, I'm telling you,
• 1:03:52
  I'm telling you, the more that we see this expanded post season
• 1:03:57
  and the, and the structure as it's constructed, I'm, I'm
• 1:04:01
  losing more and more faith in the first round by not, not
• 1:04:06
  necessarily the team, but the, the, the institution of the
• 1:04:11
  first round by and, and the effects that it has on a team.
• 1:04:14
  Not all teams. I, I, I do my best to look at it
• 1:04:17
  by a case by case basis. But given the way I feel about
• 1:04:21
  the Tigers right now and the guardians is as much respect as
• 1:04:25
  I think they've earned. They've they've been one of the
• 1:04:27
  better teams in baseball this year.
• 1:04:28
  It's it's that it's just not as much of A threat to me that can
• 1:04:35
  outweigh the potential negative effects of a first round buy, if
• 1:04:39
  that makes sense. Sure, Yeah, I get it.
• 1:04:41
  Good series. It's going to be great.
• 1:04:43
  It's going to be very good Baseball, if you can, if you're
• 1:04:46
  going to nerd out on the little stuff, if you're a fan of of
• 1:04:49
  home runs, if you're a fan of long ball, if you're a fan of
• 1:04:52
  new age baseball, you know, that's OK.
• 1:04:55
  But this is a this is a matchup that's going to provide a lot of
• 1:04:59
  old school style. Let's talk Mets Phillies.
• 1:05:09
  Let's talk some Mets Phillies. This should be.
• 1:05:12
  This could be good too. Man, this is going to be a great
• 1:05:14
  postseason. That's what I'm saying, dude.
• 1:05:17
  You looking at these four division series matchups and
• 1:05:20
  again, you can make the argument that the Tigers Guardians as
• 1:05:23
  good as we think it's going to be.
• 1:05:25
  And for like for all the reasons we just laid out, you could make
• 1:05:27
  your argument that this would be the least entertaining or to use
• 1:05:30
  a better word, the the least marketable series of the four.
• 1:05:35
  So the really from from here on out, these other three series, I
• 1:05:38
  mean, we're talking about very, very marquee type baseball here.
• 1:05:45
  And the fact that we don't get to watch all of these teams play
• 1:05:48
  in prime time is a real shame. But you know, something's got to
• 1:05:51
  give. I know I'm going to be useless
• 1:05:53
  this weekend. I'm not moving, dude.
• 1:05:56
  Oh, the imprint on the couch is just going to be Nate shaped for
• 1:06:01
  48 hours. It's going to be great.
• 1:06:05
  I look the Mets, as much as I hate it, are rolling.
• 1:06:18
  Rolling. They are moving right now.
• 1:06:21
  Is he going to they? Are they?
• 1:06:23
  Are doing things that it's just kind of shocks you and they have
• 1:06:30
  vibes, they have energy. You're going to pull the rug out
• 1:06:36
  from underneath us, aren't you? Are you going meds?
• 1:06:41
  No, I'm going Phillies. Hey, I'm going Phillies, Phil's.
• 1:06:47
  Phil's right. I'm going to.
• 1:06:50
  I'm going to have to say 5. I'm going to have to say 5, but
• 1:06:55
  I think the Phil's just pitching is too good.
• 1:07:02
  Then they have every bit of the lineup that the Mets do and then
• 1:07:06
  some. So I Wheeler has been
• 1:07:13
  unbelievable the all year, but specifically the last couple
• 1:07:17
  months. I just the vibes in in Philly
• 1:07:22
  are going to be rocking like the Eagles have a lot of question
• 1:07:26
  marks around them and I think everybody is just all in on the
• 1:07:30
  Phillies, all chips to the middle of the table in
• 1:07:34
  Philadelphia. On the red team and it's it
• 1:07:37
  we're, we've arrived again at that point of the year where the
• 1:07:40
  whole I saw it on Twitter today. I've seen all these accounts
• 1:07:44
  who's got and I I've even thrown it out there just for kicks, but
• 1:07:47
  I know the answer. But I'm seeing all these all
• 1:07:49
  these people put out like who's got the best playoff atmosphere?
• 1:07:52
  Stop, stop asking that question. Stop suggesting Petco, stop
• 1:07:59
  suggesting Dodger Stadium. Everyone knows who has the best
• 1:08:04
  post season atmosphere and it's none of those teams.
• 1:08:09
  It's in Philadelphia. I don't know why this
• 1:08:14
  conversation needs to come up every single year.
• 1:08:19
  As long as this team, as long as this fan base exists in the
• 1:08:28
  harmony that it is, it's the answer.
• 1:08:32
  Now, when you get guys like you get guys like Bryce and, and
• 1:08:35
  Cassianos and, and Trey, when those guys start falling out of
• 1:08:39
  the picture, OK, we can revisit it.
• 1:08:42
  But as of right now, the, the, the movement that's taking place
• 1:08:46
  in Philly right now, that's the answer.
• 1:08:48
  So let's just put that to bed. OK, We'll, we'll just put that
• 1:08:51
  to bed. They're just so deep.
• 1:08:55
  They're so deep and we've seen it post season after post
• 1:08:58
  season. Like big moments from names that
• 1:09:03
  aren't Bryce Harper, that aren't Kyle Schwarber.
• 1:09:08
  You have big moments from Bryson Stock.
• 1:09:11
  You're going to see something out of Brandon Marsh, I
• 1:09:13
  guarantee it. At some point.
• 1:09:15
  You're going to see something out of Alec Baum.
• 1:09:18
  You're you're just looking at so many different names that are
• 1:09:23
  capable of doing things. I, it's hard to go against it,
• 1:09:28
  man. And it's like, like I was saying
• 1:09:31
  before, I I just don't see, I don't see enough talent wise on
• 1:09:42
  the Mets side that's going to be able to overcome this.
• 1:09:48
  To me it's you know, I'm I'm sitting there talking about like
• 1:09:56
  the effects that the first John by has on a team and how I do my
• 1:09:59
  best to look at it by a case by case.
• 1:10:01
  I'm not just like coming out with this generalization, this
• 1:10:04
  like sweeping declaration that, oh, I think the rule supplies
• 1:10:09
  here. The rule does not.
• 1:10:11
  To me at least the the rule does not apply to the Phillies.
• 1:10:15
  Whether they come out sluggish we've yet to see.
• 1:10:19
  But as it stands right now with the way with the C, regardless
• 1:10:24
  of the slides, they've had their body of work over the course of
• 1:10:26
  162. I'm not worried about this team
• 1:10:29
  going into game one. We'll see and especially we'll
• 1:10:33
  see how it pairs up against this Mets magic.
• 1:10:35
  It seems to be rising to the surface, but I'm I'm not worried
• 1:10:41
  about it as as much for the Phillies.
• 1:10:45
  So with that said, I'm probably going to go Phillies in four.
• 1:10:53
  Pho Phillies in pho what I say I said 5, right?
• 1:10:59
  Yeah, I think I'm comfortable with that.
• 1:11:03
  So you've got guardians in. 4. Four.
• 1:11:10
  You've got Phillies in five. OK, I'm going Phillies in four.
• 1:11:15
  Let's talk Royals Yanks the two and #1 and #2 Aaron Judge, Bobby
• 1:11:27
  Witt respectively in in the ALMVP discussion, they returned
• 1:11:34
  to the same field yet again. We saw a little taste remind me
• 1:11:37
  it was like at the end of September to like mid mid to
• 1:11:40
  late September we saw. Mid-september, yeah.
• 1:11:43
  Yeah, so we get to see these two bright stars return to the same
• 1:11:48
  diamond, which I'm I'm very excited to watch game one, The
• 1:11:54
  you have the probables of Michael Walker versus Garrett
• 1:11:57
  Cole. Obviously, Garrett Cole's going
• 1:11:59
  game one, but the Royals have, at least the last I checked,
• 1:12:03
  have, have decided that they're going Michael Walker game one.
• 1:12:08
  The bigger, the bigger thing we need to talk about here, and I
• 1:12:10
  tweeted about it, is what's really at stake here.
• 1:12:14
  Like, forget the Yankees trying to get back to the World Series.
• 1:12:17
  Forget the Royals trying to extend this magic run.
• 1:12:20
  The Will Smith World Series streak is at stake.
• 1:12:23
  It's a big point, very big point.
• 1:12:27
  Some might even argue the biggest, the biggest thing at
• 1:12:29
  stake here in this 2024 postseason across the board.
• 1:12:33
  I'm not saying it. Some are saying it.
• 1:12:36
  That's fair, That's fair. How do you feel about this
• 1:12:40
  series though? All jokes aside, obviously the
• 1:12:43
  resident Yankees fan here. The the unashamed Yankees fan.
• 1:12:47
  Well, ashamed at some time, at some points, based on how they
• 1:12:50
  play. For sure, for sure.
• 1:12:58
  I feel good. I think this week was probably
• 1:13:03
  the best possible outcome for Yankees for the Orioles and the
• 1:13:09
  Astros to get put down for. And I know you got to get
• 1:13:14
  through the Royals, but I, I just, there's something about
• 1:13:17
  those two teams that give the Yankees fits.
• 1:13:21
  Obviously the Astros for, you know, a long time now, 7-8
• 1:13:28
  years. So it's like this was a, a
• 1:13:31
  great, great week. I, I just, I don't think the
• 1:13:39
  Royals can keep up offensively. The Royals will not beat
• 1:13:46
  themselves. They're not going to make
• 1:13:49
  mistakes defensively. They're going to pitch really
• 1:13:52
  well, but I'm going to go ahead and lean towards the what we saw
• 1:14:01
  Gerrit Cole do his last few starts, going really, really
• 1:14:05
  deep into games and starting to look like what we're used to,
• 1:14:10
  which hasn't been the case for most of the year.
• 1:14:16
  I think question marks were kind of solved by Nestor Cortez going
• 1:14:20
  on the IL not being available, Anthony Rizzo being hurt and and
• 1:14:25
  likely being done for the year with the broken hand is, is a
• 1:14:28
  big deal. It's a bigger deal than what
• 1:14:31
  people are, you know, they're not talking about what that does
• 1:14:35
  defensively create some issues. And Ben Rice hasn't done much
• 1:14:41
  outside of those first few weeks.
• 1:14:43
  So it's going to be really interesting.
• 1:14:44
  But offensively, I I really like where the Yanks are at.
• 1:14:51
  I really like it. Austin Wells has like quietly
• 1:14:55
  snuck himself into AO Rookie of the year conversation.
• 1:14:59
  Rodon has looked very good quietly the second-half.
• 1:15:03
  If you have Louise Heel, who's also in the rookie of the year
• 1:15:06
  conversation, coming in as 3. Clark Schmidt is in that
• 1:15:11
  conversation as well. Like there's pieces that are
• 1:15:14
  starting to come together for the Yanks that I feel strong
• 1:15:17
  about. I feel, I feel really good.
• 1:15:22
  I like that there's a little bit of like this battle between
• 1:15:25
  Verdugo and and Jason Dominguez. There's a little bit of level of
• 1:15:29
  competition that's happening for left field.
• 1:15:33
  You know, what Stanton can do in the in the postseason.
• 1:15:36
  So I feel I feel confident and there's other key pieces that,
• 1:15:43
  you know, I'm saying all this stuff and I'm not even
• 1:15:45
  mentioning hell, I'm VP Aaron Judge or top five AO MVP voting
• 1:15:51
  for Juan Soto. There's a lot of lot of good
• 1:15:55
  things that are happening. Glaber Torres has looked a great
• 1:15:59
  than the lead off spot. I mean, there's there's good
• 1:16:02
  stuff happening. And as much as the Orioles have
• 1:16:06
  slid in that second-half of the last few months to lose the the
• 1:16:10
  division and lose that lead that they had, the Yanks have looked
• 1:16:14
  good. The Yanks have looked good for a
• 1:16:17
  good six weeks now. Yeah, it's all fine and dandy.
• 1:16:23
  You know who else's look good? The Royals.
• 1:16:24
  I'm going to Royals in five. Give me Yanks in four.
• 1:16:31
  That's a stupid pick, but all right.
• 1:16:33
  I I didn't know we were making choices to be wrong here.
• 1:16:36
  But you know, to each their own, I suppose.
• 1:16:42
  Yeah. Going, going Royals in five.
• 1:16:45
  And quite honest, to be quite honest with you, I'm a little
• 1:16:47
  disappointed that you're not giving the Royals a little bit
• 1:16:49
  more respect because you sit there and and you praise them
• 1:16:54
  for their athleticism, their ability to to manufacture, their
• 1:16:57
  ability to especially pitch both on the front end and the back
• 1:17:01
  end. I said they can't hang
• 1:17:02
  offensively. That's what I I don't think they
• 1:17:04
  can hang. Yeah, maybe not with the
• 1:17:08
  firepower, but they can still the athletic.
• 1:17:11
  The athleticism still can translate to manufacturing runs.
• 1:17:14
  That's fine. I think they're not going to go
• 1:17:16
  to score. That's all.
• 1:17:18
  Not talking just power rankings. I'm I'm talking they struggle to
• 1:17:21
  score. I need to look something up.
• 1:17:30
  They're a good ball club, don't get me wrong.
• 1:17:32
  I and, and you have heard me. Everyone on here has heard me
• 1:17:37
  complain about how the Yankees have been up and down throughout
• 1:17:41
  the year. I I think it just, it feels a
• 1:17:46
  little different for me this year.
• 1:17:48
  There were top, for what it's worth, their top half in
• 1:17:50
  baseball for run scored 735 thirteenth, which was more than
• 1:17:55
  the Guardians, more than the Braves and the like.
• 1:18:01
  Top half. Well, I don't want to say that.
• 1:18:05
  I mean, yeah, I guess technically middle of the pack
• 1:18:08
  at 13. But like I, I don't, I mean,
• 1:18:10
  they're not like 16/17/18. I mean like somewhat
• 1:18:13
  respectable. But again, any you could make
• 1:18:18
  the argument and we'll see how it how it how it goes.
• 1:18:24
  And yeah, I'm seeing in the chat that, yeah, they get to play the
• 1:18:27
  White Sox 13 times. That's fine.
• 1:18:28
  We're not talking about the White Sox right now.
• 1:18:30
  We're talking about the Royals. Hey, now, a little more respect
• 1:18:32
  for the AO Central this year. Let's Yeah.
• 1:18:35
  What I mean we're talking about 3 teams right now that are that
• 1:18:38
  are still in the mix. No, but it goes back to what I
• 1:18:42
  was saying. The any maybe lack of firepower
• 1:18:47
  you could say gets made-up by the fact that they're just
• 1:18:50
  continuing to roll. They're continuing to stay hot
• 1:18:52
  and they're they're staying, staying on their toes, staying
• 1:18:55
  fresh. And maybe a team like the
• 1:18:58
  Yankees that can manufacture runs, maybe they're a little
• 1:19:01
  sluggish out of the gate. And I'm not, I'm, I'm not, I'm
• 1:19:03
  not saying that that applies to the whole series, but at least
• 1:19:07
  to get this to get the to, to get the series going.
• 1:19:11
  You could see that maybe the Royals or or any of these teams
• 1:19:14
  that just rolled right into into game, game action.
• 1:19:18
  Maybe that helps them from an offensive point seeing pitches
• 1:19:21
  because you're seeing clips of these, these first round buy
• 1:19:24
  teams. They're they're scrimmaging each
• 1:19:26
  other. And you and I both know we did.
• 1:19:29
  I mean, we, we didn't play at that level.
• 1:19:31
  But you can't really any sport, you can't replicate actual live
• 1:19:36
  game action playing against the guys that you share a clubhouse
• 1:19:40
  with day in and day out. It's just not the same.
• 1:19:42
  And I I wore and take bias out of it.
• 1:19:44
  I worry about a team like the Yankees or maybe less for the
• 1:19:49
  Yankees because they they just can produce runs.
• 1:19:51
  But other some of these other first round by teams, I worry
• 1:19:54
  about them coming a little little sluggish out of the gate.
• 1:19:57
  That's all understandable. With that said though, Royals
• 1:20:00
  and five lastly here, Padres. Dodgers.
• 1:20:07
  No dude, I'm just a big, big Royals guy from here.
• 1:20:13
  Quick question by the way, I forgot to ask.
• 1:20:14
  There's zero percent chance you wore that to Camden.
• 1:20:19
  No. OK, so here's I.
• 1:20:20
  Didn't think you had the balls. No, I surely didn't.
• 1:20:23
  I I contemplated it though, 'cause I'm like, is there a way
• 1:20:27
  that I could wear the jersey? But like also maybe like staple
• 1:20:31
  a sign to my jersey that says like, I'm just a Bobby Witt fan
• 1:20:35
  or something? Like just so people knew, like
• 1:20:38
  this wasn't me like a Royals thing.
• 1:20:39
  But then I was like, ow, well, I'm maybe going to introduce
• 1:20:43
  Meredith because Meredith and Ryan have yet to meet.
• 1:20:45
  So it's like maybe we'll run into Ryan.
• 1:20:46
  And then we were super late to the game because of traffic
• 1:20:49
  sucked. So that didn't end up happening.
• 1:20:51
  So I'm like, maybe could have gotten away with wearing it, but
• 1:20:54
  I, it just felt wrong. And, and it turns out that it
• 1:20:58
  the jersey didn't even get there by the time we left.
• 1:21:00
  It was supposed to left. So I didn't even have the choice
• 1:21:02
  to to make. But I was just curious.
• 1:21:05
  That's a good. That's a fair question.
• 1:21:07
  That's a fair question. But no, even if it had been
• 1:21:09
  there on time, I wouldn't have worn it.
• 1:21:12
  Would not have worn it. Padres Dodgers to close us out
• 1:21:15
  here. Well, we have one item after
• 1:21:17
  that, but regarding Division Series preview, Padres, Dodgers,
• 1:21:24
  I tell you what. Stardom, dude.
• 1:21:26
  I tell you what. Talk about stardom.
• 1:21:29
  Carabas with, honestly his tweet I think summed it up the best,
• 1:21:33
  he said. Padres, Dodgers is going to feed
• 1:21:36
  families and that I don't think I can I can put it better than
• 1:21:39
  that because you you said it. You talk stardom, you talk
• 1:21:45
  rivalry, you talk about bad blood.
• 1:21:48
  You talk about, I mean, forget the on field product.
• 1:21:51
  The fan bases alone would would just mass murder one another if
• 1:21:57
  given the chance. I I believe that.
• 1:21:59
  Yeah, probably true. That's what's at stake here.
• 1:22:03
  And this is the division series. Like we're not even talking
• 1:22:05
  NLCS. We're not talking like one step
• 1:22:07
  away from from the big dance talking division series.
• 1:22:11
  I still feel like this is just this is like top of the line
• 1:22:15
  quality post season baseball. It's going to be unreal.
• 1:22:19
  It's going to be unreal. Not to mention we're getting
• 1:22:23
  Yamamoto out of the gate. They and originally it was
• 1:22:26
  supposed to be Jack Flaherty and they said because of like rest
• 1:22:30
  schedules, they they want to get Flaherty push back.
• 1:22:33
  I don't know. Or something, something to do
• 1:22:36
  with a potential game five. I'm like, OK, we're already
• 1:22:38
  talking about game five. I don't know if I like that, but
• 1:22:44
  Yamamoto right out of the gate against Dylan cease.
• 1:22:46
  I mean, you want to talk about possibly the best game, one that
• 1:22:51
  we're looking at here of these 4 slates or four games, I'm taking
• 1:22:56
  taking that. For sure.
• 1:22:58
  The problem is, what do the Dodgers have after that?
• 1:23:03
  Jack Flaherty. It's a cute story.
• 1:23:08
  Ohtani. Amazing year.
• 1:23:12
  Great job finding your own group, planting your flag on the
• 1:23:19
  5050 club. Give me the Padres in four.
• 1:23:26
  Give me the freaking Padres in four.
• 1:23:31
  They are two good this year. Pitching is in line, bullpen
• 1:23:39
  arguably the best out of these eight teams, and offense is
• 1:23:44
  moving. Big Brother.
• 1:23:47
  No more Padres in four. Oh, Doctor Seuss, little rhyme,
• 1:23:57
  little rhyme in action there. You know, I'm with you.
• 1:24:02
  I think, I think I'm seeing that Walker Buehler is their third
• 1:24:05
  option for game or their their option for game 3.
• 1:24:11
  That doesn't excite me. I I could say that much.
• 1:24:15
  And as great as Otani has been this year, as much as we've
• 1:24:19
  talked about it, as much as the baseball world has talked about
• 1:24:21
  it, Shohei Otani cannot win games by himself, at least not
• 1:24:25
  this year. Maybe next year when he gets
• 1:24:27
  back to form on the mound, should that, should that follow
• 1:24:31
  the way that they're hoping that it does not this year, though,
• 1:24:36
  and again, revisit the point that I made before the season
• 1:24:41
  started. I've said it 100 times.
• 1:24:46
  It was never going to be a cakewalk for the Dodgers this
• 1:24:49
  year because it rarely, if ever, works out that way, where the
• 1:24:53
  best team on paper just marches their way to the World Series.
• 1:24:59
  And that's not hindsight. I've got the receipts.
• 1:25:02
  I'm not saying that. I've been saying it.
• 1:25:06
  I just don't see I, I, I, I can't say those things.
• 1:25:12
  And then as each series goes along and go, well, I got to go
• 1:25:15
  Dodgers here, I got to go Dodgers there.
• 1:25:17
  I got to, I got to go against the Dodgers.
• 1:25:19
  At some point, if that narrative for myself is going to hold
• 1:25:22
  true, I because I've been pushing that all year.
• 1:25:24
  I said the, the, the Dodger magic is going to run out
• 1:25:27
  eventually, or at least it's going to be tough.
• 1:25:30
  And what better time for me to to put that into action by going
• 1:25:36
  with the Padres, the arguably one of the hotter, maybe not
• 1:25:41
  maybe not hottest, but in terms of talent playing at peak level
• 1:25:45
  right now that it just seems like a match made in heaven for
• 1:25:51
  me to to choose the Padres to be the team that puts this ride to
• 1:25:57
  rest for the Dodgers. I.
• 1:25:59
  Think I think they're the most complete team.
• 1:26:02
  I do. I do.
• 1:26:04
  It's like I the Phillies are very good, but the Padres are
• 1:26:11
  also very complete and hot. If those two teams ended up in
• 1:26:16
  the NLCS, I've, I'll be honest with you, that's going to be a
• 1:26:19
  really tough one for me. And I know, I know.
• 1:26:20
  I get the whole like, oh, fake Phillies fan, not a Phillies
• 1:26:24
  fan, first of all. Second of all, what?
• 1:26:29
  Huh. Close your eyes.
• 1:26:42
  How does your eyes just picture Casey in Philly in this just a
• 1:26:48
  sea of red? I'm quite literally wearing a
• 1:26:50
  Bobby Witt Junior jersey, right? Now what are you talking about?
• 1:26:54
  All you just going. If I was, if I was the Phillies
• 1:26:58
  fan that people make me out to be, I would be wearing the
• 1:27:01
  Phillies jersey ahead of the 1st post season series for them this
• 1:27:04
  year. But here I am wearing a Bobby
• 1:27:06
  Witt jersey following a Wild Card series dub for the Kid.
• 1:27:11
  One could also argue that, you know I was going to be wearing
• 1:27:14
  Yankee stuff and that's why you wore that, but you did also just
• 1:27:19
  get it in the mail. Yeah, I knew this was arriving
• 1:27:21
  on my birthday and I was going to wear it regardless.
• 1:27:23
  I I don't even care anyway. Padres.
• 1:27:30
  I'm going Padres, can I be honest with you right now?
• 1:27:35
  I'm kind of, I'm kind of flirting with the sweep here.
• 1:27:38
  Are you? I'm kind of flirting.
• 1:27:40
  I hate that I didn't have a single sweep in my predictions.
• 1:27:47
  Now you know what I got? I got to be, I got to have, I
• 1:27:50
  got to be a man of conviction here.
• 1:27:51
  I'm going, you know what? I, I don't think the, I think
• 1:27:54
  this is where the run ends for the Dodgers, the run that really
• 1:27:56
  didn't even happen considering they haven't played any
• 1:27:59
  postseason baseball yet. But it's going to the, the road
• 1:28:03
  stops here for the Dodgers. I'm going Padres sweep Padres in
• 1:28:08
  three. Wow, wow, wow, wow.
• 1:28:16
  It's funny though, because always.
• 1:28:17
  By the way, Marais pissed. No, all these people are like,
• 1:28:21
  oh, you got to have pitching. You got to have pitching because
• 1:28:25
  I because I, I don't know if you saw that, that post that I put
• 1:28:27
  out, but it was the, I mean, this was going back a a few
• 1:28:30
  days, but it was like the Diamondbacks scored.
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  I think it was like the most runs in baseball and didn't even
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  make the postseason. And then everybody in the
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  comments like, well, that's great when you can score runs,
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  but you got to have pitching. Pitching wins championships.
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  And these are the same people that are somehow questioning my,
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  my, my thoughts on the Dodgers here, given that they have no
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  pitching. They're going relax.
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  It's the Dodgers. Well, which is it is, is it is
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  it? Does pitching win championships?
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  Or. Does just having LA on your hat
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  win you championships? Which is it?
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  Because the Dodgers have no pitching, The Padres are more at
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  at this current state, more talented or complete.
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  They're bringing more to the table.
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  They're hot. Fresh off a A a sweep in the
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  Wild Card Series seems like a perfect recipe to me.
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  Not to mention we've never seen Shohei with a first round vibe
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  before. What is this time off do to him?
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  We don't know, never seen it before.
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  Interesting. Yep.
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  Madre sweet. Yeah, I felt good.
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  I felt good. Felt real good.
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  Good stuff, good stuff, old chap.
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  Wow. So we, we, we, we went 5050 on
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  picks there. No, we did.
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  I went Tigers, you went guards, both went Phillies.
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  Both went pods. Both went pods and then split on
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  rose Yanks. I like it.
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  I like it. Like it a lot.
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  You know what else I like? I like the fact that Terry
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  Francona is getting back into baseball.
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  I do too. I know I said I didn't.
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  I I didn't know how I felt about it when I first saw it.
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  But the more I think about it every, every additional day that
• 1:30:13
  we have Terry Francona in Major League Baseball, that's a better
• 1:30:16
  day. Yeah, that's a better day for
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  Major League Baseball. I like this, I like this.
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  I said this off off air, I'll say it on air.
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  Makes me almost certain that this was in the hopper before
• 1:30:34
  the David Bell announcement. And and even then, it was
• 1:30:38
  probably why David Bell got got bounced, especially when there's
• 1:30:45
  question marks around the extension like why?
• 1:30:48
  Why fire him after the extension?
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  But look, Tito knows ball. Good for the Reds.
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  Now fill out your roster and. Don't forget he he he had a
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  short stint with the Reds in his in his career.
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  You just looked that up, didn't you?
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  No, I, I've, I had to confirm, but I, I believed that to be the
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  case. And he he played one season in
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  1987. I knew because I knew there was
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  a connection there. And I was like, was it with the
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  Reds? Sure enough, I was looking to
• 1:31:33
  see if he did anything special that year, but it didn't really
• 1:31:35
  seem like anything really stood out.
• 1:31:38
  Talk about a guy that knows knows how to get a young ball
• 1:31:42
  club over the hump. You know, get it.
• 1:31:45
  Get a young ball club to take that next turn.
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  Turn the page into the next chapter of of life.
• 1:31:53
  And look, I mean, I think I had the Reds winning the Central
• 1:31:57
  this year. I think Ryan did too.
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  It's a team that disappointed and there's a lot of names on
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  that roster. There's a lot of potential
• 1:32:09
  there. So they need to do some things.
• 1:32:11
  They need to fill out, you know, some gaps, but that's that's
• 1:32:16
  that's the man to take it to the next level and, you know, maybe
• 1:32:22
  sneak into one of these next, you know, wild card spots or be
• 1:32:25
  in contention of the division next year.
• 1:32:27
  He's he's the guy that can do it.
• 1:32:31
  I love it, I love it. Big fan.
• 1:32:33
  We'll see what happens, and we'll see what happens this
• 1:32:38
  weekend as we kick off 4. Yeah.
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  Division series matchups. Any other thoughts here before
• 1:32:52
  my clothes? In fact, while you not to put
• 1:32:54
  you on the spot here, think about a closing thought if you
• 1:32:56
  have one. My closing thought I I, I cannot
• 1:33:04
  and will not get enough of the Moneyball home run clips.
• 1:33:09
  I don't care if your payroll is $2 billion, if you hit a clutch
• 1:33:19
  home run in the postseason, I need that set to the Moneyball
• 1:33:23
  music. OK, I know that it was it, it
• 1:33:28
  was designed. It was.
• 1:33:29
  It was crafted for a movie about a very small market team.
• 1:33:35
  I understand that, but ever since this trend for a handful
• 1:33:42
  of years at this point, whenever it started, all I know is I'm
• 1:33:46
  glad it started because I can't get enough of those.
• 1:33:49
  So you know what if Shohei Otani, who's making like $6
• 1:33:53
  trillion over the next 60 years, if he comes up and hits a go
• 1:34:00
  ahead Homer in the in the bottom of the eighth, I don't care.
• 1:34:06
  Set at the Moneyball. I cannot get enough of the
• 1:34:10
  Moneyball home run clips. Give me more Moneyball home run
• 1:34:15
  clips. That's my closing thought.
• 1:34:19
  All right, guy. I've been well, what started is
• 1:34:22
  I saw that they I saw one with the Garrett Mitchell home run,
• 1:34:24
  which we, I don't even think we mentioned in the Brewers game.
• 1:34:27
  Big moment, huge moment, huge moment for the kids swing of his
• 1:34:30
  life. I was Paige and I were at dinner
• 1:34:33
  like a like a spot over here, like a it's kind of like a bar
• 1:34:36
  spot. And there was one Brewers fan in
• 1:34:39
  there watching, just screaming, dude just pounding the table.
• 1:34:43
  Let's go. So excited.
• 1:34:45
  I came over, I gave him knocks. I'm like, I hate the Mets.
• 1:34:49
  And he's like Maito, this one guy, like, all right, I'm going
• 1:34:54
  to get back to my nachos. This is more important right
• 1:34:57
  now. Yeah, but I I saw, I saw the
• 1:35:01
  clip set to the Moneyball and it just reminded me because we had,
• 1:35:04
  I mean, we all things I don't feel like we've seen very many
• 1:35:06
  home runs this post season thus far.
• 1:35:09
  And that was obviously a huge 1 yet.
• 1:35:12
  Well, obviously, I mean, we can't go into the future.
• 1:35:15
  We don't have the technology. But I saw that set the Moneyball
• 1:35:20
  and it just reminded me I thought back to all the great
• 1:35:22
  Moneyball Homer post season clips that I've seen over the
• 1:35:24
  last 3-4 years and I I need more.
• 1:35:28
  I need more. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:35:33
  What are people going to do tomorrow, if anything?
• 1:35:39
  Anything. Does anybody have any
• 1:35:42
  recommendations before we get out of here in the chat?
• 1:35:45
  We're just folks in the chat are continue to push this Dodgers
• 1:35:51
  narrative. Robert, I see you in the chat.
• 1:35:54
  I'm not you're not getting me to change my mind.
• 1:35:56
  I'm I'm sold on the Padres. You can throw whatever numbers
• 1:35:59
  you want at me. I've I've seen what I've seen
• 1:36:02
  and I like what I've seen from the Padres.
• 1:36:04
  It's it's Padres in three. I said what I said.
• 1:36:11
  Yeah. Does anybody in the chat have
• 1:36:12
  recommendations on what to do with this off day?
• 1:36:16
  Because I don't I don't know how I feel about it.
• 1:36:18
  I mean, if it was like a if, like if it was tonight, if we
• 1:36:20
  had no baseball, I'm cool with that.
• 1:36:21
  But a Friday night, but I don't really have much going on.
• 1:36:25
  I'm hoping with like how things kind of pan out that like this
• 1:36:30
  is probably our last off day until the World Series, you know
• 1:36:34
  what I mean? It's like you're always going to
• 1:36:36
  have that like that sweep and then another series that goes
• 1:36:41
  like five games and then they meet up.
• 1:36:44
  You know, there's like another series that's like starting
• 1:36:47
  before the others. You know, there's, there's going
• 1:36:49
  to be, there's going to be some of that happening, which I like.
• 1:36:55
  I'm running out of words. I'm tired.
• 1:36:58
  I'm going to sleep. Hopefully we got you through the
• 1:37:08
  the the off day. Hopefully you're watching this
• 1:37:11
  on YouTube. Hopefully you're subscribed.
• 1:37:15
  Hopefully you're telling everyone that you've ever known
• 1:37:19
  about us so you can come hang out with us.
• 1:37:22
  You can join us in the chat. You can get Kyle Ride riled up.
• 1:37:25
  I like when you pick fights with the chat, by the way, I really
• 1:37:28
  do. I like when you pick fights with
• 1:37:31
  random people. It makes makes me happy.
• 1:37:34
  Comment sections. Now I'm just on a mission to
• 1:37:38
  explain why the Dodgers are not all that they're chalked up to
• 1:37:41
  be. There you go.
• 1:37:44
  That's good. We will see you guys Monday I
• 1:37:48
  believe. So good chance it's going to be
• 1:37:50
  like a A2 game recap for the DSS, right?
• 1:38:01
  Oh super quick thought we didn't even get to it.
• 1:38:06
  Any thoughts on the Padres restricting ticket purchases?
• 1:38:11
  I didn't see this. What?
• 1:38:13
  So the Padres are restricting ticket purchases based on
• 1:38:17
  location because they're trying to limit the number of Dodgers
• 1:38:20
  fans in Petco, and it seems to be really, really, really
• 1:38:28
  upsetting some folks. I'm here for the pettiness.
• 1:38:34
  You know, that's my line. I'm here for the pettiness.
• 1:38:37
  I'm a van. I like it.
• 1:38:40
  I do like it. What was there was something, I
• 1:38:43
  think it was like a national championship game in college
• 1:38:45
  football or something like that, where like there was one fan
• 1:38:50
  base that like bought out a ton of tickets and then didn't.
• 1:38:53
  I think there was something like that.
• 1:38:54
  Didn't go and there was just like empty seats, yeah.
• 1:38:59
  Well, it's been brought to my attention both in the chat and
• 1:39:02
  on social because I posted about it.
• 1:39:04
  And they're like, well, this happens all the time.
• 1:39:05
  It's like, well, I don't. I don't think the limit look per
• 1:39:10
  location. Yeah, because they're just
• 1:39:11
  trying to keep it like a home game and not like just let
• 1:39:16
  Dodgers because you know how well Dodgers fans travel there.
• 1:39:18
  They would just infiltrate Petco.
• 1:39:20
  But my, my, my point or my response to those people would
• 1:39:24
  be like, yeah, this may happen elsewhere around the league, but
• 1:39:27
  it's the Padres Dodgers dynamic is is more unique than just
• 1:39:32
  about any other of those situations when you take into
• 1:39:35
  account the rivalry, the proximity, the what's at stake
• 1:39:38
  here between these two teams. Like this is a somewhat of a
• 1:39:43
  unique situation. I say it, I'll say it again.
• 1:39:47
  These fan bases would mass murder 11 another if given the
• 1:39:50
  opportunity. That's that's what we're dealing
• 1:39:51
  with. And.
• 1:39:52
  I'll say it again, Padres and four.
• 1:39:56
  Padres and three. Good stuff.
• 1:40:00
  Enjoy your weekend a baseball, folks.
• 1:40:03
  Don't you dare leave that couch nor chase curveballs.
• 1:40:08
  We love you on as always. Looking forward to talking more
• 1:40:10
  baseball with you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.