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Earrings, Joe Jonas Divorce and The Matchmaking Resurgence with Adam Cohen-Aslatei · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 2: there's been all this talk about Joe Jonas and his wife,
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  Speaker 2: Sophie Turner, and it has been announced. I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: skip over to this part. She did finally put out
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  Speaker 2: a definite announcement. They are unfortunately getting divorced. You know,
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  Speaker 2: she's 27. He's like 32. They're very young. They have
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  Speaker 2: two small children, two girls, a three and a one-year-old,
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  Speaker 2: and she put on her Instagram that Statement from the
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  Speaker 2: two of us. After four wonderful years of marriage, we
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  Speaker 2: have mutually decided to amicably end our marriage. There are
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  Speaker 2: many speculative narratives as to why, but truly this is
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  Speaker 2: a united decision, and we sincerely hope that everyone can
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  Speaker 2: respect our wishes for privacy for our children. Well, I
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  Speaker 2: can understand why this would be hard when there's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people speculating what is really going on. And
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of reasons why people break up or
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  Speaker 2: stop being friends or whatever. But some of the things
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  Speaker 2: that have come out in the way that it was reported,
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  Speaker 2: I thought was a little biased in whoever was giving
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  Speaker 2: out the news or reporting it. And a couple of
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  Speaker 2: things that came forward was, you know, were they actually,
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  Speaker 2: was this even true when we first got the, oh,
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  Speaker 2: they're breaking up, but there wasn't a definite. And people
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  Speaker 2: were confused because on her Instagram post, On right here,
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  Speaker 2: August 14th, she's kissing his hand. She's wearing a cute
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  Speaker 2: green dress and she does a slideshow of being at
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  Speaker 2: the Jonas concert. So, you know, then he wasn't wearing
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  Speaker 2: his ring. Then he was wearing his ring. And there
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  Speaker 2: were also reports about how he's caring for the two
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  Speaker 2: kids while he's on tour and she's not. And, of course,
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  Speaker 2: she was in Game of Thrones. I didn't like that
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  Speaker 2: they mentioned that, like, oh, he's the main caregiver even
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  Speaker 2: though he's on tour. You know, with working couples, there
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't be such, like, a mom-shaming type of situation. We
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  Speaker 2: don't really, again, we don't know the situation. We don't
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  Speaker 2: know if that was for, you know, one long weekend
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  Speaker 2: because she was doing something and, you know, he was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: my God, I want the kids on tour with me
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  Speaker 2: this week. We don't really know what that was. Also,
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  Speaker 2: there was a talk of her you know, partying and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, doing shots. Well, she was doing that right here.
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  Speaker 2: Sophie Turner spotted downing shots at a bar days before
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  Speaker 2: Joe Jonas filed divorce. Well, there's also reports that they
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  Speaker 2: were celebrating a wrap of a movie they just did.
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  Speaker 2: And someone, you know, not even herself, someone probably filmed
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  Speaker 2: for their Instagram, like we all do, of people partying,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and then it's interpreted like, oh my God,
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  Speaker 2: what's this mother doing, doing shots? She's so thirsty. I
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  Speaker 2: don't even think she posted that. It could have been
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  Speaker 2: someone within her party and she wasn't going to be like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: don't post us. We're celebrating the fact that we finished
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  Speaker 2: this movie. So the final thing that came out was
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  Speaker 2: today on TMZ was there's allegedly something on a ring
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  Speaker 2: cam that was the final straw for Joe Jonas to
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  Speaker 2: in fact file. Like what kind of evidence could be
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  Speaker 2: on a ring cam that would make you'd say we
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  Speaker 2: are definitely done. Did he see her come in the
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  Speaker 2: house with another person, another guy? Was she looking for
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  Speaker 2: her keys and cursing out her husband? Like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: buzzed like this mother. I told him to leave that
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  Speaker 2: door open. And he's like, that is it. I am
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  Speaker 2: done with this. Like, I don't know. You know, we
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  Speaker 2: see so much video from ring cam stuff. You know, where,
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  Speaker 2: where a lot of evidence is picked up, whether someone's
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  Speaker 2: stealing a package or stealing your wife or, or maybe
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  Speaker 2: she was just ripping on him. Maybe she was just
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  Speaker 2: literally talking about how she thinks his music sucks. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. Oh my God. Oh, if I have to
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  Speaker 2: go to another Joe Jonas concert and then, you know,
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  Speaker 2: he happens to look at the ring camera and he's like,
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  Speaker 2: I thought you loved my music, Sophie. And she's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know what? I really didn't. And he's like, I
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  Speaker 2: think we're done, but I think we would co-parent beautifully.
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  Speaker 2: And she's like, I agree. I'll put out a statement today.
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  Speaker 2: Who knows? Okay. This Kanye West with his poor, Wife, Bianca,
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  Speaker 2: and I say poor because I really feel badly for
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  Speaker 2: this girl. I don't know what the hell is going on.
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  Speaker 2: We saw photos of her before she got with him
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  Speaker 2: and she, you know, dressed differently, had long hair, had
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  Speaker 2: a career, was doing things. Now she has to walk
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  Speaker 2: around either barefoot or wearing really weird white pumps. She's
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  Speaker 2: wearing just a bodied nylon suit, like nylons from the 80s,
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  Speaker 2: but all the way up around her boobs. She's got
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  Speaker 2: nylons on her head. She had to cut her hair short.
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  Speaker 2: He's dressed all weird. They were on, when I saw
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  Speaker 2: this a couple days ago, I did not realize what
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  Speaker 2: was going on because they said, oh my God, here's
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  Speaker 2: a photo of Kanye in this water taxi in Italy
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  Speaker 2: with his pants down. I'm so innocent. I'm such a
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  Speaker 2: good Catholic girl. I thought, It was like he just
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  Speaker 2: had low pants on. You know how people, how guys
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  Speaker 2: wear their pants really low and like literally the belt
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  Speaker 2: is like almost right before their penis or like under their,
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  Speaker 2: actually under their ass cheeks. I just thought he was
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  Speaker 2: sitting there. He got up and his ass showed. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I thought. Then with further speculation, it appears that
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  Speaker 2: she seems to be down on her knees and there's
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  Speaker 2: an arm there. People are speculating that maybe she was
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  Speaker 2: doing a sexual favor for him. And of course the
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  Speaker 2: taxi guy didn't know what was going on because he's
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  Speaker 2: driving the water taxi. He's not like, excuse me. But
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: then the article said, but someone who was with them
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  Speaker 2: did know what was going on. Do you imagine you
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  Speaker 2: have to be the person with them? Like, oh, like,
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  Speaker 2: you know what? Like if you're like Kanye's assistant and
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  Speaker 2: you're like, okay, I got this job like six years
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  Speaker 2: ago and it was when he was with Kim and
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  Speaker 2: we got to go to the Met Ball and we
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  Speaker 2: got to do this, all this fun stuff. Then he
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  Speaker 2: said all these weird things and then he was running
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  Speaker 2: for president. Then they're getting divorced. We have to replace
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  Speaker 2: the marble eight times in the one bathroom in Hidden Hills. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I highly doubt whoever is the assistant that
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  Speaker 2: had to witness this weird behavior, nakedness in Italy. I
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  Speaker 2: doubt that person has been around for very long because
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine he can keep an employee no matter
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  Speaker 2: how much you pay them. Um, anyway, so according to
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  Speaker 2: the TMZ, they, um, are no longer welcome in Venice.
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  Speaker 2: They have been banned from the Venice water taxi company.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't know that they've been banned from the country.
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  Speaker 2: We're hearing different things like, you are banned from Italy.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think that's the case. But I don't think
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  Speaker 2: they're supposed to be getting these water taxis anymore, which
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure they can afford their own boat if that's
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  Speaker 2: the kind of stuff they want to do. But also,
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  Speaker 2: this came from Page Six. They think that this is Kanye,
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  Speaker 2: but he like crashed some, allegedly crashed some cute Italian wedding.
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  Speaker 2: And he's wearing completely covered, the whole face is covered
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  Speaker 2: all black. And the video is pretty funny, page six,
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  Speaker 2: where it seems like it's very awkward. Like he just
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  Speaker 2: shows up and he's kind of like, do you want
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  Speaker 2: a picture with me? And they're like, no, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what was going on there, but I just thought
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  Speaker 2: that was sort of funny. Meanwhile, at the Beyonce concert,
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  Speaker 2: Kylie Jenner was seen having a romantic night out at
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  Speaker 2: the Beyonce concert with the Timothee Chalamet. And I, look,
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  Speaker 2: I was happy to see this. Whether this is a
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  Speaker 2: real relationship or not, we finally, they finally stepped it
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  Speaker 2: up a notch and gave us some PDA for the
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  Speaker 2: paparazzi to take a photo of. Because as this has
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  Speaker 2: been going on for months, I felt like this is
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  Speaker 2: getting less momentum than Bethany's reality reckoning. Like, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: is this a real couple? I mean, like, I was
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  Speaker 2: just thinking about it the other day. I'm like, we
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  Speaker 2: don't see them. I feel like this has been dropping
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  Speaker 2: crumbs the way Kyle dropped crumbs earlier with Morgan. And
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  Speaker 2: nobody was really picking it up or really caring. I
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  Speaker 2: think everyone was just like... are you dating? I really
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  Speaker 2: don't care if you're dating, Kylie. Anyway, they showed lots
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  Speaker 2: of PDA. And what was funny about it is that
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  Speaker 2: it was like all of a sudden she kind of
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  Speaker 2: is like, ha-ha, and she sees the camera and she
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  Speaker 2: locks eyes with the camera and she starts kissing and
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  Speaker 2: rubbing each other. And so there are a lot of
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  Speaker 2: comments of like, did they call the paparazzi? Is this
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  Speaker 2: a planned thing? Of course, the paparazzi is going to
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  Speaker 2: be at Beyonce. And so it's not like it was
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  Speaker 2: an obscure place. I mean, they know where the VIPs
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  Speaker 2: are and they know they're going to be photographed if
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  Speaker 2: they go to Beyonce. So I don't think they were
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  Speaker 2: calling them up like a certain, like Tamara accused Heather
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  Speaker 2: Dubrow of calling up a paparazzi to take photos of
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: them while they are at Disneyland. Um, this was probably whatever,
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: but it worked out because now we know, no, they are,
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: at least they're kissing. They're definitely kissing because we saw
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  Speaker 2: them kiss. Um, so then here they are kissing and also, uh,
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  Speaker 2: Travis Scott was there as well. The father of her
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: two children and her longtime partner, though they are just
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  Speaker 2: co-parents now. And she made that clear many months ago,
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: even before she gave birth to her second child. She
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  Speaker 2: did this long, um, article with these really cool photos
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  Speaker 2: that was actually shelved because it was supposed to come
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: out like the week of the Astroworld horrible tragedy. And
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: but in it, because some people grabbed it in it,
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  Speaker 2: she was like, we're not a couple, but we are
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  Speaker 2: a family. Like we don't have we don't practice monogamy.
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  Speaker 2: We don't we don't think we're going to be together
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  Speaker 2: for the rest of our lives, but we are going
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  Speaker 2: to be a family for the They say his track Meltdown,
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: before going on to the rap, that he says the
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  Speaker 2: former lover should try to find another flame hot as me, bitch.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he says in his song. So he was
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  Speaker 2: there as well. I don't really think he cares, whatever
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  Speaker 2: this is. But then I was at a birthday dinner
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  Speaker 2: last night with my friend. And we're sitting at a booth.
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  Speaker 2: We were at Craig's and it was a birthday dinner
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  Speaker 2: that we planned a month ago. And it was for
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: Lala's birthday along with Josh Flagg was there because we're
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: all good friends and Logan and Leo. And I was
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: sitting next to Logan and Leo was just had his
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  Speaker 2: camera out. And then I don't even know if he
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  Speaker 2: was going to film anything, but he happened to capture this.
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  Speaker 2: And then I like had eye contact. And then I
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  Speaker 2: just went and acted like I was kissing Logan, who
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  Speaker 2: is a gay man. So I'm not cheating. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I was just kind of thinking that's what this sort
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  Speaker 2: of looked like to me. So whatever, we posted it.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of love, Lakers owner Jeannie Buss, who I've met
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  Speaker 2: several times, and Jay Moore, a friend of mine, they
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  Speaker 2: are in fact married. And I've talked to them before
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  Speaker 2: after she got engaged. And he's so in love with her.
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  Speaker 2: They're so happy. It was a very, very small ceremony.
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  Speaker 2: No Lakers were there. Um, they just did it on
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  Speaker 2: the beach and you know, he's been divorced and has
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  Speaker 2: a child. She, I don't know that she's ever been married. Um,
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  Speaker 2: I believe she doesn't have kids and they've been a
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  Speaker 2: while together for a while and they're really happy. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: I keep asking her to come on the show. She
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  Speaker 2: has such an interesting life story and she's like such
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: like a, good-spirited person. So hopefully she will come on
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  Speaker 2: Juicy Scoop. She can give us all the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 2: And there's been so many TV shows and things in
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: the works about the juiciness of the Lakers and her
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  Speaker 2: father and everything. So I think that would be really fun.
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  Speaker 2: But happy for them. But no, I was not invited.
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  Speaker 5: So whatever. It's okay.
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  Speaker 2: Just come on Juicy Scoop. Okay, you guys. This is
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  Speaker 2: a very disturbing, sad story, but I have to address it.
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  Speaker 2: There is this YouTuber. She had a very popular YouTube channel.
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  Speaker 2: She made a lot of money on it, I assume,
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  Speaker 2: because she had lots of views, okay? And she was well-known.
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  Speaker 2: It was called Eight Passengers. I believe it's because maybe
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  Speaker 2: she has eight or six kids. She has multiple kids.
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  Speaker 2: She at least has five or six kids. And she's married.
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  Speaker 2: And she is Mormon. And she has been arrested for
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  Speaker 2: child abuse. Her name is so disturbing. Her name is
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  Speaker 2: Ruby Frankie.
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  Speaker 3: And.
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  Speaker 2: It was called Eight Passengers. It was a YouTube channel.
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  Speaker 2: She has been arrested on charges of aggravated child abuse
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  Speaker 2: in Utah. Police were alerted after a severely malnutritioned and
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  Speaker 2: wounded child climbed out of a window at their home,
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  Speaker 2: and then they found a child in similar condition was
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: found inside the home. Both the children have been hospitalized,
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  Speaker 2: and the four minors were placed into Child Protective Services,
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  Speaker 2: and her eldest daughter and her sister's applauded the arrest
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  Speaker 2: and said it was long overdue. And the daughter has
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  Speaker 2: gone out on TikTok and social media to say, please
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  Speaker 2: go through my mom's YouTube channel and please collect any
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: video that you see that now makes sense that she's
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: essentially an abuser. Look at it. So Many people have
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  Speaker 2: made really great videos putting this stuff together and showing it.
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  Speaker 2: I had seen this woman like in bits and pieces
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  Speaker 2: of things before the arrest and thought it was kind
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  Speaker 2: of weird. I didn't follow her channel, really know about it.
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  Speaker 2: But really some of the awful things that she would
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: do is she was very much about withholding food. And
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: she would talk about it on her camera. She goes, well, Um,
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: it's my daughter's job to make her meal, uh, her
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  Speaker 2: lunch and she didn't. So the school called and they
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: were disturbed that she didn't have a lunch. And I
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: was like, well, she's just going to have to go
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: hungry and there's nothing wrong with going hungry. They have responsibilities. Um, there's,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I can't believe the stuff she would show.
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  Speaker 2: She had a teenage son that they're joking about how
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: for his punishment, he had to sleep on a bean
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  Speaker 2: bag for like two months. Um, This other little child,
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  Speaker 2: she's holding her little favorite stuffed doll. And she said,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: if you use your scissors to cut another thing in
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  Speaker 2: my home, everything in this home is mine. I will
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  Speaker 2: cut off the head of this doll. Do you like that?
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  Speaker 2: She posted this stuff. And people did report. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if they reported to authorities, but there were people
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  Speaker 2: that were talking about how this was disturbing, and they
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  Speaker 2: didn't understand why this mother was mothering this way, and
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  Speaker 2: they didn't agree with it. She and the husband also
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  Speaker 2: did a video about how their son is, everybody has
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  Speaker 2: to get out of the house at 18. The minute
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  Speaker 2: they turn 18, they're not allowed to live at the house.
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  Speaker 2: They're not expected to. And in fact, one of their sons,
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  Speaker 2: they sent off to one of those wilderness places, sounds
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  Speaker 2: like kind of where Paris Hilton went, which is You know,
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  Speaker 2: we know now is I don't believe the greatest situation
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  Speaker 2: for kids ever. And they're saying, you know what? They
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: only are going to have the clothes on their back
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  Speaker 2: and a few items to survive. They don't even have
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  Speaker 2: a tent. They'll have to. And, you know, and that
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  Speaker 2: way they'll get these life skills they need. We're in America. Like, really?
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  Speaker 2: Most people don't have to live in the frickin woods
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  Speaker 2: without a tent. So this is not a life skill
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  Speaker 2: I believe in teaching a kid at 18. I don't
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  Speaker 2: agree with it. But these kids that they found were
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  Speaker 2: severely abused according to the report. They had duct tape
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  Speaker 2: on them. They were laceration, starving. The kid that got
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: out of the window was begging, ran out, escaped, and
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: was begging for food and water. And I've been talking
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: about the fact that these parents– even when they're not,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: oh my God, physically or abusing these kids or withholding food,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: that they're profiting off of their children. They're getting all
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: this ad money. And I believe it's Indiana as the
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: first state to pass a law saying that you're not
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: allowed to do this, that you have to do it
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: just like if your child was on Disney, you can
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: only take 10 or 15% of their money. That's the
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Coogan Law. There's going to be more laws about parents
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: profiting off using their minor children to in their videos,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: in their YouTube to sell, to get ad space on
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: those YouTube videos, to sell products. And the fact that
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: you're being, it's humiliating enough and scary enough as a
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: child when you do mess up and you're being, she's like,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: you're getting a tongue lashing, but then to see the
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: camera and she would even say, oh, this isn't even
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: as bad as it could be because the camera's here.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: And the fear that these kids have, and then you, Just,
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: you know, little bits that people are collecting from her
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: stuff that she all put out there where the child
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: is just, you know, coming home from school and they're
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: just broken. They're scared to go home. They say, Mommy,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: you're scary. Like, it is heartbreaking. And thank goodness this
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: was found out. And the dad has retained an attorney.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: The kids are in Child Protection Services, but his attorney
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: and he are fighting to get Make sure that he
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: retains custody and that they stay in his care. But,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know about that. Okay. Sister Wives. Okay.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: Sister Wives was so good on Sunday because we finally
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: got to see Janelle come forward and have this blown
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: out fight that was like very juicy with her and Cody.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: To remind you, Janelle is the second wife. And Christine,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: wife number three, has already left. She is currently engaged
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: to somebody else. We saw her break away last season.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: and now we're watching this, and I believe this is
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: maybe filmed maybe around November because they're talking about Christmas.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: And then, of course, Robin is wife number four, and
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: she is still in this, but she's not happy either.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: She's like, I did not sign up to be a
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: monogamous single wife and have to deal with this asshole
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: every single day, every single night, his moods, his rules.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I thought I could be part of a TV show,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: have some sister wives, give my kids a big family
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: and like deal with them two, three nights a week.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: That's what I thought. It's not what I wanted. The
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: car is beautiful. Where did you end up going for it?
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: This exclusive place that dad has connections with. They have
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else. You
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: have to put me in touch.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: What's it called?
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: It's Dunaidial.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: Where?
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E. Do you mean... Yes,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I got it on Dundale Cars.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Lift?
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Please. You going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: No.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: I'm heading to the Emmys, and I have police complaints
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: filed against me. When your free will was about to
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: be taken from you, what would you do if it
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: was given back?
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: home dad. What happens next?
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: When I came in, he started crying.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: happens next.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I decided to risk it all.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: I realized how valuable every day was.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: You're worth the work.
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: So meanwhile, Janelle is, they're arguing about how her grown
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: sons mainly don't want to deal with him and how
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: he treated them during COVID with all his rules and
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: really giving them no attention for, it appears for the
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: last few years since he married Robin, he's much more
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: into her. Three kids that she brought into the marriage
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: and then they have two little ones together. So in
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: it though, They're fighting and he's blaming her. He said,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: you turned the kids against me. And she's like, no,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I never did that. And he's like, then she goes,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: you gaslit me. He goes, you only are using that
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: word gaslight because I'm using it. You stole my word.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: And she goes, oh no, I was planning on using
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: this word gaslight before you ever came over to this apartment.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: That was my favorite part of the scene. The apartment
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: that she's in, because she finally realized I can't live
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: on this trailer because And we're never going to build
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: on this land. And what's really sad about they, they
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: had the best situation in Las Vegas. They had four homes.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Each wife had her own home with their own kids
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: on a cul-de-sac in Las Vegas. And, and Cody wanted
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: to buy this land and build on this land in Flagstaff,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Arizona called Coyote Pass. And they, they have a loan
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: and basically they're probably going to lose everything. Whatever they
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: paid for the land, they're going to like, They never
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: built because they didn't pay off the loan and someone's
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: carrying the papers. It's a big mess. And sadly, Janelle realizes,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: and she says it, I'm 50 years old. And she said,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: oh my heck, like I have nothing financially. She was
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: the wife that worked the whole time and put all
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: the money into the pot while Christine helped watch their
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: combined kids together. Then Robin comes in. And Robin and
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Cody take all the money that she's been working for
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: and they buy a home while she rents and Mary
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: rents and Christine was renting. Now Christine is like, goodbye,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I'm taking the little bit of profit I have from
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: some property and I got the heck out of here
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: and I went back to Utah. But Janelle is left
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: with just a rented apartment. The property is not in
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: her name. She is not legally married to Cody. It's
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: a nightmare. So now, if you'd like to come on
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Juicy Scoop and tell your story, and then afterwards, everyone
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: will love you, and then you can start your own podcast,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: and whatever, we can work out what that podcast will be,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: then you can hopefully be a successful woman and get
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: your own property and do your own thing. But I, again, just,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: it is shocking, and I've said this, none of them
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: are living the high life, though. None of them. I mean,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: they have decent cars, the house that Robin and he
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: live in, appears to be okay. It's on a couple acres,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: but it's not like they're utilizing the acres. They're not like,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: they don't have like a tennis court and a gorgeous pool.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: It's just kind of like woodsy and brown. It's nothing great.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: And the show has been going on for seven, I
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: think this is the 17th or 18th season. So I
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: do think like, maybe these people do need a union,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: but I think the problem with the reality show union
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: That's been talked about that has, like I said, the
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: least momentum of any movement I've ever seen. I think
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: part of it is because I don't think this is
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: something America really cares about. I don't think America is like, wow,
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: you know what? That girl in season five of The
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Bachelor really got screwed over. She drank too much because
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: there was too much alcohol on set. And she came
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: off like an asshole. And now she's having trouble getting
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: married and occasionally having trouble getting a job. So Bethany,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: where do we go to pick at the, like, I
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: just think it's one of those things. It's the same
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: thing with Burning Man where I kind of feel like
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: people weren't overly upset or feeling scared for these people
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: in Burning Man because they were like, we live off
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: the land and we can live for four more days
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: because it's so muddy and there's so much rain that came.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I would never want to go to Burning Man. I mean,
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: it seems absolutely horrible. I've told you my camping story
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: when I was a baby that has been told to
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: me over and over and it definitely scarred me and
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: made me never want to camp. I've talked to my
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: one friend who did escape, but he's been going for
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: 27 years and he's like, oh, don't even worry about it.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: We were in this fabulous, we have this, our camp
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: includes chefs, cooks, you know, generators, air conditioners, beds, sheets.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: It's not, so there's, there was this level that you
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: could pay for or whatever. And they were perfectly fine.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: And then he had a truck that he was able
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: to escape on Sunday out of there and was like,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: I'll just leave my camper and come back in two
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: weeks because I have a nice home somewhere else. And
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: it really felt like kind of the haves and the
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: have nots. And then it really made me think like,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: my God, you know, and, and then the stars like, um,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Chris Rock was there and Diplo, I think, or maybe
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: some other DJs, they were able to escape. They were
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: able to walk and then some fan picked them up
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and they were like, goodbye. And they got out and
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: all the wealthiest people got to leave. And the other
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: people are like, whatever, you know, I can stay longer.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: I have a little cot. They don't even seem to
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: mind it, it seemed like. But it did remind me
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: like when... the earth really goes to shit. It's going
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: to be the really wealthy people that are like, oh yeah,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: we're just going over to this other planet and bye, bye,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: go wallow in your mud. Like it was, but it
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: was definitely something like, I just think it's one of
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: those things where we're not focused on that these people
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: really are suffering that much and we don't really care. Okay.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Now let me get into this next story. Diddy, as
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: you know, has all these artists and He, according to TMZ,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: has turned down nine figures because he chose to give
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: bad boy artists their publishing rights back. This is very,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: very interesting that he did this. Titty chose to do
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: the right thing over money. And the fact that he
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: turned down such a fortune to make his former artists
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: have control of their own music. So everyone thinks it
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: is so great and really important. We're told that the
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: rationale for this boils down to wanting to revolutionize the
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: industry with this to empower artists and to switch up
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: the dynamic. So, of course, when something like this happens,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: people start to speculate. And there are some interesting theories
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: and things that have emerged on the internet. This one
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: is from marca.com. And, you know, there's been stories that...
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: There was some grooming going on and some crazy all-male parties.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Jamie Foxx, there's a video of Jamie Foxx talking about
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: it involving Puffy at the time. And these are just
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: videos and stories. They could be manipulated. They might be,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: you know, all alleged stuff. But when I was at
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Lyricist Lounge, which is a show I did on MTV,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: which was sketch but mixed with rap, I also heard
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: of these stories of these all-male parties going on with
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: rappers and younger artists, maybe very young. But I only
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: heard rumblings of it, and I was like, what? And
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: then we'd do a sketch or whatever. So I have
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: no evidence. of this, but there is a lot of
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: chatter on the internet that maybe this, because there are
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: these people talking about this stuff that could be very
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: negative rumors or possibly true, that that was the motivation
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: to do this really great deed and put the put
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: that to rest and have people be like, well, who cares?
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Look at this great thing he did. Don't bury that.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Don't bring that up. Nobody cares. Nobody wants to know. And,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: you know, if nobody's actually coming forward, which it appears
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: nobody's coming forward, then this just might be, you know,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: rumors and alleged stories to make someone look bad who's
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: actually doing something great. So there, there's the juice behind that. Now, um,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Remember this awful Real Housewives story. There's lots of stories
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: on this, but this is coming from all about the
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Real Housewives Instagram. And so let me right now. So
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Real Housewives of New Jersey, old cast. There was Caroline
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Manzo and her sister, Dina Manzo. Not only were they sisters,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: but they had the same married last name because they
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: married brothers. And Dina Manzo divorced that brother. And his
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: name was Thomas. And she was engaged to somebody else.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: And there was this horrible attack that happened on her
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: and her fiance. He's now her husband at the time.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: And they arrested Thomas Manzo for hiring this person to
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: do this awful hit. And the person was named, hold on,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: John Perna. is the one who did it. And they
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: found out that John Perna was offered some discounts at
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: the Brownstone, which is the dining hall and like area
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: people have weddings that the Manzo brothers both owned for
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: his wedding in Patterson, New Jersey. So in realizing that
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: they did this research, he has been arrested. And right
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: now he is trying to get a plea deal. He
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: has pushed off this trial. many times. And he hired
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: a new attorney just last November. Caroline Manzo, Dina's biological sister,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: did write a letter vouching for Tommy's character during all
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: this time. And Tommy now has until November 17th to
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: make an agreement with the prosecution for a plea deal
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: because he faces up to 43 years in the slammer
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: if convicted. He kept pushing off the trial and now
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: supposedly he is going to try to do some type
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: of plea deal for hiring or arranging for this guy
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: to come and physically attack them both and break into
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: their home. So it's really awful. And no surprise that
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Dina Manzo and Caroline Manzo are still not talking. Can't
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: imagine why. Britney Spears is not accepting social media promo
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: deals despite potentially high payout from TMZ. I've talked about this.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Would she, you know, why doesn't she do OnlyFans? I
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: can see why maybe she doesn't. I think maybe she
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: has explored it. I have heard that she has maybe
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: looked into it, but then realized, ooh, what you really
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: have to do. I don't want to do that. I thought,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: what about just making her Instagram subscription? That's what I
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: think would be a great idea. But she has her
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: book coming out. Supposedly, she's got music coming out. So
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: hopefully she'll be back on top soon. I don't know.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: The videos are crazy. They're getting stranger. She keeps putting
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: them out, but the, I'm dying to hear about the book. Um,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I have heard some people have read it and they
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: just said, it's like ground, like you're going to die.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: It's so juicy. And, um, it's, she's written every word.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: It wasn't like someone was a ghostwriter. So maybe she's
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: just like, I don't need this. And I don't want, and,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: And also doing, let me say, doing sponsored ads for
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: social media and stuff. They're not like you can just, well,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: I did just see a clip of Gwyneth Paltrow talking
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: about seed, which I love. This little pill that you
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: take to keep you like regular. It's a probiotic and
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: prebiotic and one. And she's doing it. And like her
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: kid is like making a latte and you hear like
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: the steamer in the back of the kitchen and she
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: didn't even redo it. Now, I don't know if she
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: wasn't paid for that or what, but usually you really,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: when you do these ads, you have to, read the content.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: You have to say it right. Then you send it
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: to the company and then they say, oh yes, but
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: don't compare it to this and do this. And you,
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: so it's not like it's, it's not as easy as
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: it looks. And being that she doesn't like to take
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: direction or for, you know, for fear that all of
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: a sudden she feels controlled. That's why she's like, I
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: do my own dances. I posted myself. I think that's
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: why she's like, no, I, it's just too much work
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: for what the money would be. But if she was
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: to say she loved something besides the Amazon clothes that
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: she buys herself for $ 22 or her sheen designs or
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: wherever she gets them, if she was to say like
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: she really liked something, I don't even know if that
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: would be the, so I don't even know if the
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: offers have been, yeah. I think if I had a
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: big product, money or not, I really don't know that
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: I want Britney Spears to be the spokesperson right now.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe in the future, but right now, I don't know
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: about her endorsing something that would make people go, if
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Britney loves it, I want it. I think she's probably
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: better off just saying no and let me just spin
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: around and have a coffee or Red Bull or whatever.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: This was interesting. Miley Cyrus said she did not make
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: a dime on her bangers tour. She said she spent
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: so much on, this is when she was humping teddy bears.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Do you remember? This was like the first time we
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: saw that she seemed real horny and bisexual. She is bisexual.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: She said that. But this is like the first time
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: she was doing this is when she was wearing the
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: little things in her hair. I remember because I did
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: an impression of her when I was on Chelsea Lately
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: and I wore the outfit and I humped a teddy bear.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: And anyway, she had these enormous special effects. She was
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: obsessed with the movie The Truman Show with Jim Carrey.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: So she would leave out of– Wait, she would leave out,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: the way that Jim Carrey like ended the movie, she
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: would do that on her show. And she'd, oh, she
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: flew out of a giant dog or something. Anyway, all
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: this stuff left her with no profits, even though it
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: brought in $ 70 million in ticket sales. There's probably a
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: lot more to unfold besides her just having really large
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: teddy bears on stage and going into a dog.
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: But myself personally- When I did my special in 2014,
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: my first stand-up special, it was sold to Showtime and
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: then it was sold to Netflix and I still did
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: not make one dime because every time it got sold,
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: I'd say, well, where do I get a check now?
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: And they say, oh no, that hasn't covered all the
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: expenses of producing the stand-up special. I didn't have teddy bears.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: I had a mic and I had myself and I
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: wrote all the material and And even then, I didn't
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: get a dime. But this is a very common story
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: for comedians as well as musicians. So there you go, girl.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: I feel you. 2014, not great. Erika Jayne's residency, though,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: you can go see it. The girls were all there.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Erika DeRiet and Lisa Renner, who's no longer on the show,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: they all partied. They all had dinner. They all had fun.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: They all supported Erika Jayne. And I heard her singin'.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: And she does a couple covers. And she's like, because
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I am living in a material world. And I am
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: just a material girl. Anyway, the crowd went crazy. Leigh
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: loved it. And according to, what is this? To BuyWigDrama.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: This is a great. Oh, BuyWigHelloDrama. It's a very funny
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Instagram account. Anyway, you can get tickets for as low
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: as $ 7. I say go for it. Check it out.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I think it's on StubHub. Listen, it is hard to
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: sell tickets these days. It really is. Make a girls weekend,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: go to, or a husband weekend or a boyfriend weekend, whatever.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: It looks like it's fun. And, you know, oftentimes we
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: just got to get people in the seats. They make
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: the money off the drinks or whatever. She's working her
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: ass off and she's having fun and go, you know,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: that's what you're into. By all means, go. Of course,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be there November 4th. at the Venetian,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: but my show is already sold out. And, um, Brandy
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: and Julie, Brandy and Julie will be joining me at
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: that show during that weekend, which happens to be, just
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: happens to be BravoCon. So I hope you got to
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: that cause that's sold out. Um, Taylor Armstrong looks so good.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: She cut her hair short and the bangs really work
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: for her. Oh my God. She looks amazing. And, um,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: she just talked on Kyle and Mauricio's breakup says she
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: loves them. Who knows? I really think we're going to,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I think they're keeping it quiet, but I definitely don't
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: think they're together. And I definitely think they're getting divorced,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: but we're going to be able to watch it on
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: the show. The Murdaugh trial, a little update on the
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Murdaugh trial. He is asking for a, this is the
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: man that killed, convicted of killing his wife and son.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: He is asking for a new trial because they said this,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: this clerk supposedly they're, they're in their, Complaint saying that
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: this person was telling the jury don't listen to what
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: he says don't believe him tampering with the jury, and
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: that this person has a book coming out or going
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: to work on a book and also went with three
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: jury members to the Today Show. So it sounds like
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: a thirsty clerk may have ruined it for somebody. Now
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: I just want to clear up a real... Juicy, crazy
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: story about my own life that ended up going public.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: So I had this friend, and you know when you
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: have a girlfriend and you're getting ready and you realize, oh, shoot,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: I forgot to bring earrings. She goes, here, borrow these.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: So I put the earrings in and they were gold.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: These ones that I'm wearing right now, I wear them
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: all the time, but they are not real. They are
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: diamond hoops. They are not real. I think they cost
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: like $ 90. I wear them all the time. I thought
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: this is what these earrings were. There was no conversation
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: of don't lose them, they're expensive, nothing. So I had
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: them in my possession and I was traveling and I
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: was dancing at a restaurant, which they encourage dancing at
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: in St. Barts. And somebody was filming it and posted
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: it in our group. And I was entertaining the crowd
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: by being a spaz and dancing like I do. And
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I did not realize until after it was posted that
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: someone said her earring fell. And being that it was
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: my friend's earring, though I didn't know they were real,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: I felt bad. Of course, I wanted them back. Also,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: they were cute earrings. I called the restaurant. They didn't
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: find them. I went back to the restaurant. I sifted
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: through the sand the best I could. I couldn't find it.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: She wrote me. I went through all of my text
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: messages and everything. And it was only one little thing like,
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: did you find my earring? Laughing, crying emoji face. Nothing like, shit,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: those were really expensive earrings. Did I not tell you?
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: So anyway... On a public radio show, it was said
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: that I am a thief, that I could be convicted
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: of a felon for stealing these earrings because they are
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: so expensive that it elevates the crime to the felony level,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: and that this woman should sue me for stealing her earrings.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: This was the first I ever heard that they were
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: of any kind of value more than like maybe $ 100.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: Since the earring incident happened, I went through all my texts.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: There was no other mention of it. It's sentimental. It's
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: this much. What are we going to do? How can
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: you pay me for this? We continued to text throughout
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: all these months. She went to my birthday around June 14th.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: No mention of the earring. I picked up the entire
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: meal for the five girlfriends that were there. And no
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: mention of the earring until this was on a public
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: radio show accusing me of being a jewelry thief, a
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: comedian who steals jewelry from friends.
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: So I.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Immediately wrote her. I said, this is the first I'm
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: hearing that they were of such value. Had I known,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I would have given you this money sooner. How much
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: were the earrings? She said, I bought them at a
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: store in La Jolla. I think they were about $ 2, 700
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: or $ 3, 000. I said a check for $ 3, 000 is going
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: in the mail. It was mailed yesterday, Tuesday. So hopefully
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: by the time she's listening to this, she has received it.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: It will absolutely clear. And that is the case. But
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: I personally have never lent jewelry to anybody that was
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: any value. The only time someone has ever lent me
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: real jewelry was on my wedding day My friend lent
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: me her diamond cross, Noelle did. And I was very
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: nervous about it. And I believe, I didn't even take
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: it on my honeymoon. I put it in my parents'
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: safe before I left because it was expensive. I didn't
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: want to wear this on a trip. I would have
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: never traveled with anything of that value that wasn't mine ever.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: And had I known that I lost that earring, it
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: would have ruined my trip if I knew it was
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: that expensive. So what I find interesting is I think
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: that what happened in this particular case is she chose
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: not to tell me how expensive it was because this
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: was a planned attack on my reputation and the business
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: that I've built from scratch for eight years. This was
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: a planned attack on me to publicly try to destroy me.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: And that is the only thing they have on me.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: They don't have anything else. I'll get in more of
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: all the things I don't do And all the things
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: that I believe that this stemmed from. But I just
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: wanted to put out here that, no, didn't know the
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: earrings were expensive, was not trying to avoid paying them back.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: And for some of the men out there that maybe
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: don't understand how borrowing jewelry and assuming that it's fake
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: and not lending your real jewelry to anybody and not
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: even asking someone, I would not even ask to borrow
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: the jewelry. Again, with the cross that was offered to me.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: on my wedding 23 years ago to the man I'm
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: still married to so, you know, and So yeah, it
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: was pretty it was pretty devastating to hear that being
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: said about yourself and I just want to clear that
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: but if I would compare this to something I'm like
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: it's like if you're golfing with your buddy and you
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: say oh hey borrow my putter and then after a
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: few beers you put your putter in your in your
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: golf bag the guy never asked for it again and
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden you're driving around your
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: car and you're hearing on the radio that you stole
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: his gold-plated putter and never gave it back when there
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: was no conversation really about it. Certainly not a demand
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: for money, nothing, nothing. So just so you know, that
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: was my juicy public story that happened this week. And
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: for more about it, you go to heathermcdonald.net and click
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: on Patreon. And now for all you single people that
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: would like to get some tips and figure out how
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: to find the love of your life. Listen to this fun, light,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: and interesting conversation about matchmaking with Adam Cohen. Thanks. Hello,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: and welcome to Juicy Scoop. We have a juicy one.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: We have a hot new matchmaker setting the world on fire,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Adam Cohen. Welcome to your first time at Juicy Scoop.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: We are going to be having a lot to talk about.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Give it to me.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: I am so excited to be here. with the queen
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: of pop culture herself, Heather McDonald. Let's get into it. Relationships, dating, sex,
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: and everything in between. Let's go.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: We're going to help a lot of Bravo celebrities. You
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: and I have a lot of suggestions for our single
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Bravo friends. Yes.
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: So tell me a little bit about your company and
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: what you guys do.
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I've been in the dating and relationship world
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: for 14 years.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Now, wait a minute.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: I know I look really young, but 14 years. How
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: old are you? Can you say? I'm in my 30s.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: So when you started as a teenager, you started as
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: a dating expert in your teenagers?
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: I was a grad student. I created my first dating
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: website at the age of 21.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: In 2008.
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: So now you're going to do the math, I know.
• 46:38
  Speaker 5: But anyway, 2008.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's really cool.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: And then I started working for all these different dating apps,
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: running them, running product, running marketing. And then I ended
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: up working for Bumble for a while.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: So are you friendly with Whitney?
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: I know Whitney very well. We worked very closely together.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I'm very close to her mother-in-law.
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: You are?
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: I know her husband.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Michael.
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: I met her husband a couple of times. We were
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: on some intimate trips together.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, good.
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: Stories for another time because those are other NDAs. Those
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: are NDAs.
• 47:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: But I mean, I hope I can say that I'm
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: friends with her mother-in-law. I think I can say it. Yeah.
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: Well, you said it. Okay. Whatever.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: So it's happening.
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: So I ended up starting my own company called S'more,
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: which was the world's first anti-superficial dating app. So imagine
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: you're on a dating app, but you're not judging people.
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: They're not judging you. You're getting to know them. And
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: the more you chat with them, the more of them
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: you see. So for people who don't want to be
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: judged right away and want the actual conversation to take
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: more than 30 seconds, they would download S'more. They would
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: use our app.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Does that still exist?
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: So I sold my company to a company called Talkify.
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: So for your listeners who know Talkify, they're the largest
• 47:47
  Speaker 5: matchmaking company in America. So traditional matchmaking, but also they're
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: launching the first ever matchmaking app coming out this winter.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: So everyone will be able to take advantage of true matchmaking.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, I truly feel like, first of all, you know,
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: none of this, the only thing that existed for me,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: you're going to die, was great expectations. What? Yes. This
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: is so long ago.
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: Tell me.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: So I was like 25 and I always knew I
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: wanted to get married and have kids. And I was
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: just like, I feel like if I keep going at
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: this rate of dating people and not finding anyone special
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: or whatever, Um, you know, I'm going to, I'm going
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: to be too old and it's going to be that difficult.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: So there was this, I was like, I want to
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: do this thing. Great expectations. Now this is how old
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: it was. You go to this place and you spent
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: a lot, you'd pay a fee and then you would
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: do a video and talk about your life. And then you,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: you would go in there and they'd be like, hi, Heather,
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: these two And I didn't realize that I was maybe
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: like the youngest and most normal person doing it. I
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: had so many people wanting to date me. I couldn't
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: believe it.
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: Oh my God.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: And so then it kind of became overwhelming because then
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: you were supposed to like, it was almost like a
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: library and you'd go and you would take a video
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: tape out and then you'd have to watch them.
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: Oh, I love this.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: And so finally I was like, this is too much
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: for me. It's overwhelming. So I said to the girl,
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like, do you know any of these people? Can
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: you give me like three? So I look at three
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: and one's a doctor and one's like a pretty cute
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: guy that's like close to my age. So I did
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: date some people.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: It feels like you're giving me a sperm bank story.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: Like go and flip the book.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Right. It was a little bit like that. Like it
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: was that. And then anyway, none of them worked out.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: And then I kind of was like, screw it. It
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: was a weird thing. And people that would go on
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: the dates are like, why are you doing this? like
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: you don't seem like you'd have trouble. I'm like, well,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: I want to find people that actually on the road
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: to like getting married, having kids, whatever. And being comedian,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: being from LA, the people that I were meeting were
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: great material for me. Like every date was like a
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: good three minute new bit for my standup, but wasn't
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: turning out. So getting back to what I think is
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: interesting now is I do believe There is going to
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: be more of a movement, though I do think the
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: apps and everything are great. And so many people I
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: know have met their person on the apps.
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: But after five years of being on them.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: Everyone has a different story. But I do think the
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: matchmaking world is going to become more and more something
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: that now people go back to like wanting to not
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: rely on the apps to actually have to like force
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: themselves out or have. I think it's cool that a
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: lot of the apps also have like in live meet
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: and greets where they're like, Events. Yeah, events. I think
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: that's really smart. And then I also have joked about it,
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: but I am serious. I would like to create something
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: that I can do with you.
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: What? Tell me.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Like modern day parents arranged marriage.
• 50:49
  Speaker 5: Okay, that's a TV show. And we'll think about that
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: after this podcast.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Because when I talked about it briefly to my sons-
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I'm like, would you ever care if I found you
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: the girl, whatever? And they're like, not if she's, you know,
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: as long as she's hot, whatever, who cares? And I'm like,
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: you know, look, it shouldn't just be reserved for certain
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: cultures is what I'm saying. Totally. Because you find like-minded
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: grandparents to be. What do I see my life as
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: a grandparent? My friend and I would like to go
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: on cruises together. We are fine with a nanny. We
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: also want to be super into the kid's life. We're
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: not overbearing. We would like our kids to get together.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Or you find someone. Like in my Juicy Scoop community,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: because my boys are 20 and 17, I've got women
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: all the time being like, my girl is 18. What
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: if we were mother-in-laws together? And I'm like, I'm telling you.
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: You can do it. We can do it.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Because these kids aren't as social as they used to be.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: And sometimes it's like awkward or whatever.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: So true.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: And we need to help them in this post-COVID, post-tech
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: world to– They still need to match up enough with
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: all these apartments that are being built as single dwellings.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: We do need to get people together, fall in love
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: and make a partnership. You know, I agree.
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: And I also look, I worked for dating apps for
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: so many years.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: I know everything there is to know about a dating app.
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: Matchmaking is new to me and matchmaking is very impressive
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: because if you look at where all these apps are going,
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: a lot of people now, my generation, millennials have been
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: on them for 10 years, 11 years.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they start as like 18, right?
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: 18, and millennials are the most single generation in the
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: history of America.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Of course, yeah.
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: And is it a coincidence that we all use dating apps?
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: And so when someone tells you there's a million fish
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: in the sea, if the other person that you saw
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: on a date wasn't perfection, swipe again. There's literally an
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: app called Plenty of Fish.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: And so we start to treat people like they're not human.
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: We start to treat them like they're objects. And look,
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: it could be very fun. They work great for casual encounters.
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: it's harder for them to work for proper relationships because
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: at the end of the day, the technology facilitates what
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: the humans are wanting. And if two people aren't really
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: high intent, then the outcome is not gonna be what
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: you're looking for. And so when you think about matchmaking,
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: when you go to a matchmaker, it's because your intent
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: is really high. So your success rate oftentimes is like
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: eight to 10 times higher. So if you are sick
• 53:14
  Speaker 5: and tired of swiping through these apps and having these
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: pointless conversations that lead to mediocre dates, bad flings, and
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: then you feel bad about yourself, get yourself into Talkify,
• 53:24
  Speaker 5: at least into the database or hire a person because
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: every single date will be amazing.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: So I do think that's really interesting. Now, what about
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: the fact that, you know, girls that are hot can
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: join this for free or very little money and someone
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: who is like a Patty Singer, millionaire, matchmaker, whatever, they pay.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Does that still exist where it's like, You can negotiate
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: your price is what I'm saying.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: So with Talkify, so look, matchmakers do different things. We
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: are actually a relationship wellness company. So let's think about
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: what that means. So for us, anyone can join our database.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: We're going to vet you. We're going to make sure
• 54:04
  Speaker 5: that you're a proper person. We don't want to have
• 54:06
  Speaker 5: any kind of scam artists associated with our company. But
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: for a hundred bucks a year, you enter our network
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: and you have the ability to be matched with some
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: of our clients. Our clients who have their own private
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: matchmakers and date coaches, they run the process. So the
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: matchmaker will sit down with not Heather McDonald, but Heather
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: McDonald's sister and say, hey, single sister, what are you
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: looking for? Let me become a very good one of
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: your friends and get to know who you are, what
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: makes you tick, and then scour America to find the
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: best people for you.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Now, I have a question with the dating coach, whatever.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: You know, I do think there's certain guys and girls
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: for that matter who And Patti Stanger would do this
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: a little bit. You know, she's a friend of both
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: of ours back in the day of her show, and
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: some people thought it was harsh. Yes. But, like, I
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: do believe that sometimes someone just wasn't raised with a
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: sense of style or wasn't– or even– based on where
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: they're coming from. Now they've got a few bucks, but
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: they don't know the etiquette of fine dining or whatever,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: like a pretty woman. Do you provide some of that
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: of like, dude, let's go shopping, like a queer eye
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: for the straight guy or queer eye for queer eye
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: or whatever. That kind of help of like, let's get
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: you some proper bedding. Let's up your apartment. Let's get
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: you some clothes. Let's build your confidence away because Maybe
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: you didn't have a girlfriend in high school or college.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Maybe you were that person that played video games on
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Friday night, but you're really smart. And you have a
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: lot to offer because you're like a nice, great person.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: And you literally need like a socialization class.
• 55:40
  Speaker 5: I think, first of all, I love Patti Stanger. I
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: think that she made the industry much more mainstream. I
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: think that I'm so excited what Netflix is doing with
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: matchmaking and making it a trend and so many different shows.
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: are now coming online about matchmaking, which is more intense
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: dating instead of just hot abs on a beach. Look,
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: we all love watching hot abs on a beach, but
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: we also want to know how to get into relationships,
• 56:03
  Speaker 5: how to be successful in relationships. So in terms of
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: what we do, which is different, look, any matchmaker, any
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: good matchmakers, let's put it that way, should be able
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: to get you on a pretty good date. Here's the thing.
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: If you're not ready for love, if you're not ready
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: to embrace someone else because you're carrying baggage, there's weight
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: of a past relationship, there's trauma that you haven't dealt with,
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: There are things about you that you need to work on.
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: Even if that person's amazing, it will not work out.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: So at Talkify, you get both a matchmaker to find
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: you love and a coach to get you ready for love.
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: And then once we find you the love, we maintain
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: it as well. So we're thinking about the entire beginning
• 56:42
  Speaker 5: to end of someone's relationship, hopefully never ends. But you know,
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: as someone who's married, and I'm also married, that relationships,
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: everyone thinks the hardest part is finding love. It's not.
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: It's staying in love with that person and making sure
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: that it works long term. And that requires a coach.
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: And so we're normalizing this just like mental health became
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: normalized with COVID. Now is the time where we're talking about, guys,
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: relationships are really hard. Finding real love is really hard,
• 57:10
  Speaker 5: but we can work together. We can share tips. And
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: I think that's why Talkify is so different.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: So, okay, let's talk about some people that we... In
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: our Bravo world.
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: Let's start out with Lala. Yes. Kent.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: Now, she is a good friend of mine.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: When she was with her ex, the father of a child,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: that was not her typical type. So now they're broken up,
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: and now we see on her show that she dated-
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Her original type, which is, you know, a little edgy, tattooey, younger,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: kind of sexy, whatever. Now she's like, you know, I just,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: you know, is possibly on a journey just to have
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: another child by herself, which is totally fine. And I
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: don't think that's a bad idea.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: You have this infinite amount of time, at least as
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: a woman, you know, if you want to carry your
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: children and stuff, you know, and you want your kids
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: to be close in age.
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: So you maybe don't want to wait for the guy.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: You want to get your family and then the guy
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: comes later. But regardless of whether she has the second
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: baby or not, who do you think, what would you
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: suggest for her? Wow.
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: So I don't know her personally. And I think that
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: it's really important to have a friend like you chime in.
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: I think that when you're in the limelight, sometimes I
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: think you could be one of two ways. A lot
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: of celebrity clients that we have or friends that I
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: know that are using Matchmaker is, There is something to
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: be said for having another partner who's also in the limelight, right?
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: If you're looking to get attention, that's going to get
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: you max attention. That's also max pressure on your relationship
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: and some sort of competition for love. In her prior relationship,
• 58:52
  Speaker 5: they were in the same industry, but there was still
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: some sort of competition, I think I would say in
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: a way.
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: It was kind of interesting because it was like he
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: was successful, but behind the scenes.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: And then she was, you know, very out there as
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: a reality star. And, you know... but then what, what
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: was discovered later is I didn't know that originally he
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: was like an actor kid. And so I'm like, I
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: think he really loved the limelight. And I think he
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: loved being on the show with her. And, and then
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: even when they did her podcast together, I'm like, I
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: didn't understand why he was the co-host.
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: Who's taking the lead on that show, right?
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: You think it would be her.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: So it's like kind of an interesting thing. And oftentimes
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: these housewives like Ramona and people like that.
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: Vicky and her ex also.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: They say they get a guy. And throw them.
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: On a podcast and call it a day.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: But they get a guy and they, and the guy
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: will say, Oh, I've never watched the show. I didn't
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: know who you were. Oh, isn't that great. You know,
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: he doesn't want to be part of it, but then
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: they kind of need them to be part of it
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: to help their career. And also if you refuse to
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: be on the show, then we're going to spend a
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: lot less time together. But then some of these people
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: love the limelight, you know, someone that I think has
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: maintained being a good husband and, supporting the wife but
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: isn't thirsty in that way is like Eddie, Tamra's husband.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: Or Ken, Lisa Vanderpump's husband.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Those are two examples of they've played along.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: They've let their wife have their fights and whatever. They've
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: also not been too much of a target, you know,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: of hate themselves from the women. And then, but they're
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: also not like so into it that they're, you know,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: they'd be happy not to show up but they show
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: up enough To keep their wife happy with the job.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: For sure. For sure. Look, I think, so I need
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: to meet her. I need to know her. I need
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: to see what makes her tick. And I think that
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 5: for Lola, it's about getting a person that totally and
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: unconditionally supports you.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 5: Someone that's going to love you from the bottom of
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: their heart. Someone that's going to jump into a car
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: and push you out of the way. That's the kind
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: of person that she needs. She lives a very public life.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: It's been very challenging for her. And I think that
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: she probably needs a businessman, a lawyer, someone that's not
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: in her industry. I think she can have fun with
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: people in entertainment. I think it could work, but I
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: think that would be the exception. I'd like to see
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: her date a partner at a law firm, an amazing doctor,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: someone who doesn't really know what she does and is
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 5: not mesmerized by the fact that she's on TV.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Not mesmerized, but get a hoot out of it.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Someone that loves it. I think it's cool. I think
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: it's fun. Look at my sexy wife. Oh, we're going
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: to this thing? Great. Oh, you don't need me to
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: go and you want to go with your girlfriends? Great.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: That's what you need.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Like someone that's not a weird, jealous person that's not,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: but that's like there when you need them, but also
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: totally fine not to go.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: And someone who's stable, someone who's not, you know, no substances.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 5: I feel like she's, you know, came from a world
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: where she needs to just focus on herself, focus on
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: her baby. And if she wants to have another one,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: be supportive of that. There's so many great people in LA.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: They're hard to find. And that's why someone like Lala
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: should be, I'll speak to her hopefully sometime soon.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Okay, so what do we think about.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: Well, I heard that you had a conversation with Aaron
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: and Abe, who are my good friends.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, so Aaron is one of the new housewives on
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Real Housewives of New York.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: The last episode that we saw, they were celebrating their
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: 10-year wedding anniversary with a vow renewal or to do
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: their vows for the first time. A fabulous, gorgeous party.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: A lot of nice side tit on her. Love her
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: tiny body.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: One thing I said when I recapped it was... I,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: you know, a lot of my friends have been married
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: for a long time. I have never been, and I
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: have friends who have money and throw parties. I have
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: never been to an anniversary party, vow renewal party ever,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: except when it's offered on a reality show. And I
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: get why it's a great thing to do on a
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: reality show. And I did this show called After Lately,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: and it was like a fake reality show that we
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: did for Chelsea Lately. It was kind of in the
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: vein of like Curb Your Enthusiasm.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: And after the first season- I think I suggested this
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: as like a storyline. We were going to have a
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: vow renewal because I was like obsessed with Housewives. My
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: character was, you know, and me too. Like it was
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: an extension of myself, like an exaggerated version of myself.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: And I was so fucking excited because I'm like, I
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: would never pay for this myself. I would be way
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: too embarrassed to have it. But if I'm going to
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: do it for a TV show, how great to like
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: wear a new, to wear a bride's dress again, all
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: this stuff. Anyway, they ended up scrapping the idea.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: But I've yet to have it. And I do kind
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: of think it obviously been a curse with the housewives,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: except for the Vanderpumps. They're the only ones that have
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: done it, that have remained married, and now for Aaron.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: And both of them appear to have very strong relationships
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: so far. Like when Ramona did it, it seemed weird.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: It was 17 years in. It seemed very much like
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: she needed... Something to plan, which I totally get.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: An event.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: That's a fun event. It's glamorous. It's fun. You get
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: to dress cute. Why not celebrate your love? Why not
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: have this around you? Like, I totally get it.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: Or just do a fun anniversary party.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: No one needs to do a vow renewal.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But I do think, I do think, now you
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: were there.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: I was at the party.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: So how long were the guest speech? Because that did
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: seem pretty torturous. And it does seem really weird that
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: you would ask someone, and listen, it's one thing if
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: We're going to celebrate this couple's love because she had
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: cancer or whatever. They got through something super traumatic.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: And people could attest to the fact that this is
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: the strongest couple they know. This is amazing. I can't
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: believe you made it 10 years after what you guys
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: went through. This one went to jail. This one was
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: in hospice. I don't know. But I was kind of
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: like two gorgeous people.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: A lot's happened.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: That have had a nice life. Yeah. That have three–
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: healthy great kids I think you can definitely celebrate the
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: fun but I was like I would like what are
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: these speeches.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 5: About they already have a very strong relationship they really
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: trust one another but they're not the kind of parents
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: they live they go out they have a nanny they'll
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: go on vacation with each other they love love and
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: love having fun they're the best I think.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: She's the most normal that I've ever interviewed and I
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: think they're the most normal and I don't think that
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: this vow renewal is going to be a curse at
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: all I just think It is sort of awkward to
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: ask people to do speeches.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 5: Yes. So the speeches were, yes. I think the speeches
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: were relatively long. If I have to admit, I was one,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 5: I think one of the first people to get to this.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: I arrived punctually.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 5: If you tell me to get there at eight, I'm
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: there at eight.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: Was there any food?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 5: Again, I didn't see the episode, so I don't know
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: what the whole context is. No, I'm asking you.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: You were there.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: Did you remember eating? Not a ton.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: Because that was.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: What one of the girls said, that she was very hungry.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: She wanted to go to Neil Boob because she was starving.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Who said that?
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: A sigh.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: Of course she would say that.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: Because she needs to eat a lot of food, which
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: is great. But then maybe eat before you come. You
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: know what I mean? Like if you know that, if
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 5: you've had one bad experience, don't repeat it a second time. Right.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: But I don't know her very well. But anyways, I
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 5: think that they had tons of great alcohol. That's all
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: you need. Abe and Erin have the best friends.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: They really come out. They really know how to celebrate.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: They really rallied around them. There was some type of
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: drama that happened during the speeches where they had to
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: shift the cameras from the speeches back to the drama
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: that was going on. but I think that was it.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: There wasn't that much drama. They were just talking about
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: how long are these speeches going to be.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 5: But also there were, I heard, okay, what did surprise
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: me was when I walked to my husband, he's like,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: what are all these brands?
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what was that? So first of all, if she
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: got brands to pay for it, Thank you. Thank you
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: for being a smart person because we know now anybody
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: that's followed this or listens to my show and hears
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: interviews know that when you're on this show, they do
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: not pay for your party, whether it's a one-year-old birthday
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: or vow renewal. And she's a savvy person that's been
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: in a lot of businesses. I would be like, hey,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: if I was going to do that, I'd be like, hey,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: you know, Belvedere Vodka, would you like to be featured?
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: Or my friend has a vodka company. Can we get
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: a couple cases? My friend has a wine company. And like,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: we'll make sure that, you know, it's featured on the show, whatever.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: So I thought that was really smart. I did not
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: hate on that at all. And even if you aren't
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: on a TV show and you're able to do that
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: because you have a social media or you have a
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: podcast that you can shout out, go for it. People
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: want this advertising. A couple cases of wine to be
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: mentioned on a show is 100% worth it and does
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: not make you look.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 5: But I think it takes time to get people to
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: get to that point.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 5: But I feel like Aaron and Abe came strong. They
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 5: did their homework. They came prepared. They knew what the
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: assignment was. They knew that the show would probably cost
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: them a lot of money in the short term. Absolutely.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: You're getting your glam. You're getting your this. They get
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: paid nothing at the beginning.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 5: And so how do you make this into something that's worthwhile?
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: And the whole thing is utilize it for your businesses.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: And she's got her hand in a lot of different
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: businesses besides real estate.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: Well, she was supposed to also be our designer, renovating
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: our kitchen, and she also renovates homes.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she has a great business.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: So, okay, so I love that. Let's talk about some guys.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: So Josh Flagg from Million Dollar Listing is my friend.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: He is somewhat newly divorced, though he already got involved
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: in a serious relationship, which is now over with. Is it?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: Who said that, just to be clear?
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: He told me that. Is that not true?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: No, it is. I mean, that's what I heard too,
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: but I wasn't sure it was public.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: No, he and Bobby broke up, they got divorced, and
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: then he was dating somebody else.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: I think it was somewhat serious. I had dinner with
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: them and stuff, but it was the first relationship out
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: of a marriage.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: So now I understand him to be single.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: And who do we think, what do we think for him?
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: So I know him also. So I met him like
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: 15 years ago when I was living in LA. Edith,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: his grandmother and my aunt were on a committee together
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: in some Jewish organization.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: Fun.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Amazing.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: So when he was nerdy self on the first season
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 5: of the show is when I met him.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: So I think, look, he is, he loves love.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 5: He wants to get married again. And I think that
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 5: he tends to not look very closely at the values
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: that someone has. And he looks maybe for superficial things initially.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: And I think a lot of us do, right? A
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 5: lot of us are, wow, you're good looking. I want
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 5: to go on a date with you. Sort of like
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 5: a dating app. And I think that Josh may not
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 5: be the best picker. And I think that's okay. I
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 5: think a lot of us can be coached into learning
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 5: how to pick better or giving people that you would
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: not think would be your type a chance. And so,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 5: you know, my hope is that Josh seeks the advice
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: of a matchmaker. I've been providing some advice to him
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 5: and really starts going on great dates and having great experiences.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: And look, it doesn't always have to be a dinner
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 5: or a lunch. It could be doing a fun activity.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: I think oftentimes we get in our heads about learning
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: as much as we can and doing an interview on
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: a date. And then it feels horrible and you never
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: want to go on a second date. Well, instead of that,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 5: go rock climbing, you know, go hike Runyon, go do something.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: Maybe for Josh, go do a house tour. Take this
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: guy on a date to one of your homes and
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: tell him why you love these different rooms and show
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: him one of your passion projects or show me one
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 5: of your vintage cars or take him on a tour
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: of your amazing closet and all your cool vintage clothing.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 5: But I think that sometimes.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. I like that, you know, but
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I don't. Sometimes those things seem very
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: reality show. But it is like, let's go rock climbing.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: But I definitely think a hike. I definitely think.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: Maybe a runyon's hard, right?
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: It's 45 minutes.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: I actually think also just like, hey, do you like
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: farmer's markets? Let's tool around, but then let's go to
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: a nice lunch. But let's kind of tool around just
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: because it sparks conversation of like, I don't even know
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: what this vegetable is. How would you make it? I
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: don't know, just like a little more like of where
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: you're just walking around a little bit, like window shopping
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: type of stuff. I do think you get to know
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: people like that a little bit better.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 6: Now, I.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: I do think with him, you know, I think he's
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: great looking and I think he's so funny and I
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: do think he's got a great heart.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: He somewhat identifies as an elderly Jewish woman, his soul,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: which I love, a rich older woman.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: And that's why he's BFS with candy.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: I get it.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: And I love that for him.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: So, you know, but he also still has a young side.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: So I don't want people to think that even though
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: he's so old Hollywood, old Beverly Hills, which gets him
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: all his best clients, like, you know, so you got
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: to find the right, the right balance and opposites attract.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: But I also kind of believe in, I do believe
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: in the, one of the original matchmaking side and I
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: never did it, but it always seemed like this one,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: it was the eHarmony. Where that guy really believed that
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: actually the more you have in common as far as
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: like morals, what you want in life, what you like
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: to do with your free time. I mean, I do
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: think it would be really hard if I married a
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: super granola camping guy that hates going to fancy hotels,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: doesn't like luxury, thinks I'm a snob. No, I don't
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: think we should get married.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: I agree with that.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: It's fine that we go skiing together. And he's a
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: much better skier than I am. And that's fine. I
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: can go on the bunny runs. They can ski a lot.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: We can still meet for lunch. We can still have
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: a wonderful time. You know, like I still think you
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: can do these things and not be forced to do
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: something you don't want to do, you know?
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 5: I think Josh is also a nurturer. He wants to
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: take care of a person.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: And he wants to be the provider of a person.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: But then when you speak to him, he says, well,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 5: I want this other person to have passions in their
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 5: life and have their own thing going. And I want,
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 5: so he says the right things, right? He's saying the
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: kind of person that he wants, but he's selecting people
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: that don't represent the type of people that he says
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: he wants. And I think that he should listen to
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 5: his head to get on the date. And once he's
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 5: on the date, open up his heart.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: And then also, so Ramona Singer, she's got a boyfriend.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: Ooh, I don't know. Who's her boyfriend?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: She's got a boyfriend that everyone says is very nice
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: and normal, has money, age-appropriate, Wow. But she's very protective
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: because when she came on my show and the legacy
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: wasn't going to happen, but she did the girls trip,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: she was like, you know what? She's like, you know what, Heather?
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: It's been a really hard time since Mario died. And
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: you guys don't want to date me. Wait, since Mario died? Sorry,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: I forgot who died. Mario broke up with me.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: Let me start again. So you guys... It's been really hard.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: You know, like Mario and I, like we're friendly. We
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: raised Avery, okay? I've dated some really great guys. You know,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: it's really hard because like people don't want to be
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: in the limelight. And I totally agree with that, especially
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: when you're dealing with the fact that she's on this
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: show that's ridiculous. Yeah. But the people who are social
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: circles and the people she wants to date are one percenters. 100%.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 5: 0.001%. 100%.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: And they don't want to be on these shows. They
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: don't want their wealth exposed. They don't want to show
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: off their– they're so wealthy. They don't wear labels. They
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: don't like– so I'm– so I think she's being very
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: protective of that relationship. And I think it's a blessing
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: that the legacy didn't go for her.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: But you know what I think that we should– because
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 5: we keep talking about all these Bravo people that are single.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 5: And it feels like 50 percent of them are very single.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: I feel like maybe we need to just do a
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: show and– Find them love because Luann is a great catch.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 5: Sonia Morgan, a great catch. So many of these women
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 5: have so much to offer.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: I think Sonia is a bit of a mess. I'll
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: be honest.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 5: You know what? Her daughter is phenomenal.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: All their kids are great.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: Phenomenal.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: I just met Victoria. That's Luann's daughter.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: She's an artist. She's beautiful in person.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: And she's, you know, doing very well. And then so
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: is her son.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: Very good looking and a full-blown artist, like selling art pieces,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: like real artists. But Luann, Luann I think is such
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: a great catch because she's like very capable. Oh, yeah.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Like she like can cook. She can drive a boat.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: She can sing.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: She can sing. She can fix shit.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: Whatever.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: She kind of can do a lot even though she's
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: the counter. She's kind of like not really snobby.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: Not like, you know, because she comes from such like
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: capable means.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 2: Now, Sonia is hilarious and goofy, but I feel like
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: if you had to find them both somebody, I think
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: Sonia would be more of a challenge. Unless you're going for, like,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: a younger, thirsty, fun guy. I don't think she's going
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: to get another age-appropriate, like, you know, or, like, even
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: if someone age-appropriate. I mean, even if it's, like, late
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: 40s to 60, okay? Like, I don't think. I think
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: it would be hard to find that guy for her
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: because she is so messy.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: I will take on that challenge. Okay.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: But she's beautiful and she's funny.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 5: I've spoken with her daughter who now lives in L.A. Yeah.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 5: And her daughter is phenomenal. And I think that everyone
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 5: wants to see her with a supportive, amazing guy who
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 5: lets her be her eccentric self.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: Do you think?
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: Do you think?
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: Sonia.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: But do you think if the camera– I do think
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: there is something I call– She's kooky.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: She's kooky.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: Reality show Tourette's. Yeah. Where I feel that sometimes they've
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: been doing it for so long. And for some of
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: these people, if you do the math, it's like literally
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: a fourth of their life has been in front of
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: the camera.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 5: For sure. For sure.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: And for some, it's coming close on half.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: And you're like– I can't blame them for acting crazy
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: when the cameras aren't around. And now essentially cameras are
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: always around because everyone has a phone. So whether she's
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: spreading her legs and showing her, you know, posts or whatever,
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: someone's filming it, you know, and it's like, and it's
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: funny and they're filming it because they love her and
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: we're not like bagging on her. But you kind of wonder, like,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: would she ever be able to retreat to just a
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: regular life and, like, want to make dinner for a
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: man or have him make dinner for her? Like, have
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: that without the world watching because it becomes such a thing,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: you know?
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: Look, I think that she has a public persona that
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: is all of those things. I'm not going to say
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 5: that's why we love her. I think we love her
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: because she also really cares about... She's also very charitable.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 5: I mean, she does a lot of amazing good work
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: in New York City.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: And like all over the world.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: She totally has a big heart. And then one of
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: the reasons I liked Crappy Lake, and I told Lou
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: Anne this too, is I thought they were like a
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: good match to do even other things together.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: Because with people that have been watching the shows for
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: as long as I have, you, some, you know, some stars,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: you're like, you don't like them anymore. You liked them
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: and you're like, ooh, they really are a hypocrite or
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: they really are an awful person, you know. The two
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: of them never in the history of being on TV,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: they had funny, silly moments, they had arguments with people,
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: but none of them ever acted in like a mean, malicious, manipulative,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: I got you, I'm gonna hold this nugget of truth
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: and throw it in your face and humiliate. They've had
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: that done to them. but they've never done it to anybody.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: So their hearts are pure. And that's why I think
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: they have longevity in doing other things, whether it's not
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: Housewives or other things, and why I think that they
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: will find love again if they want it.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 5: But as a Bravo fan, would you not want to
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 5: see 12 episodes and every episode is two or three
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 5: of your favorite Bravo people? Actually, not just going on dates.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 5: We've seen those shows before.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: No, absolutely. absolutely.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 5: The problem is these people, generally speaking, you know, we
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 5: think that they're so kooky on camera. Most of them,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 5: the ones that I've met. And the ones that I'm
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 5: friends with are like that in the real world. So
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 5: they are a personality type that are very eccentric, over
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 5: the top in every single way, and maybe rough around
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 5: the edges, harder to be in a relationship, not the
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 5: kind of average person.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've hung out with them too and they
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: are what you see.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 5: They are what you see.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not an act.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and they're Googleable.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: Which is why they're successful at doing what they're doing
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: because some of these people come on these shows and
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: they've studied it or they get to a place where
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: they do have to bring it to stay on the show.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: And I feel like, you know, some of these people
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: that are really like all-star reality stars don't have to
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: do that, you know? No, no, no.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 5: But I want to see that show. I want to
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 5: see that show where we not just send them out
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 5: on amazing dates, because look, again, we can find great
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 5: people for these if they're not ready. So let's talk
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: to Sonia and figure out why you act the way
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 5: you act in these situations. Is that really who you are?
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 5: Is it exaggerated for the cameras? What truly are you
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 5: looking for in a relationship? Are you harboring? Because she
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 5: feels so much like a Morgan, right? she is a Morgan,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: but she's so connected.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: I think she, her story is very interesting that I
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: feel like she's never really like sat down and been
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: really frank about it. You know, the fact that she,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: you know, she came, I think from a nice house,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: but she was like, Dorenda said, you were the hostess
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: with the mostest. She was like a young girl working
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: in fashion and she was a hostess at a fancy restaurant,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: like a lot of 20 somethings or whatever does. And
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: she met, successful guys and she wanted to meet successful guys.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: And she fell in love with this guy that was
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: like 35 years older than she has the daughter. And
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: I think why she cries about it is I think
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: she took advantage of the situation thinking that he would
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: always be around. And I think she was having such
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: a great time having fun. And this is just all
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: the stories I've heard. So I'm kind of writing it
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: in my, I think she was having fun, not necessarily
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: cheating or anything, but not being an attentive wife. And
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: she went off and gallivanting on yachts and things thinking
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: he's fine. He has, you know, the housekeeper and whoever,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: and I'm doing this for a week and we're fine.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: And what wasn't fine is that her friend went and
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: started giving him attention and then they broke up. And
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: I think she really kind of regrets it. A little scatterballish, yeah.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: And I think so she has, because a daughter was involved.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: So are you saying that her best friend slept with
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 5: her husband?
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: What I've heard from all the, it's somebody she knew,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: maybe not a best friend, somebody she knew and then
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: he ended up being with that woman. And it was
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: very final and it wasn't a nice divorce and he
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: wasn't friendly with her after. And because he was so
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: rich and everything, the other thing is, you know, when
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: you marry someone that has, that comes from multiple, multiple wealth,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: there's a trust, there's trust. So homes are in trust
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: and things. It's not like if my husband and I
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: broke up, everything we came together, we both came from nothing.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Like we both, the house is in both our names.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: We both, you know, contributed to the mortgage.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 5: That's why you're not getting divorced. Yeah.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying, but also I think sometimes people marry
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: someone really wealthy thinking that they're going to make, even
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: with a, A prenup, they think they're living in a
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: $ 20 million house. Well, guess what? When you get divorced,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: you're not walking away with 10. Right. That is in
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: the trust, and his income is $ 100, 000 a year, and
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: there's all these things.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: For sure.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: So I think she did fine being divorced from him,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't the life that she was living had
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: she stayed married with him, with all the connections and
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: all that stuff. And I think there's times, as much
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: as she... really has made the most with this whole
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: other career and people love her. There's times when she's
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: vulnerable and probably a little buzzed on camera where she's like,
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: you know, this wasn't supposed to be my life. Dorinda too,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: even though Dorinda was a widow, like this wasn't supposed
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: to be my life. I was supposed to be the
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: society person going on four different fabulous trops.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: She can still be. I think like the persona that
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: we're seeing is I'm a Morgan, I'm a Morgan, I'm
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: a Morgan. That's great. But who is Sonia? Like we
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: know Sonia Morgan, who you are on TV, but I
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 5: think that she needs to figure out who she is
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: as a woman, as a mother and what she wants,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 5: because for her to be so connected to her husband
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 5: and his legacy and his family's legacy is, means that
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 5: she's at a bit out of identity loss. And so
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 5: it's hard for her to get into real serious relationships
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 5: because if she doesn't know who she is, how is
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: she going to be successful in a loving, caring relationship?
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 5: So she needs coaching. I think a lot of these
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 5: people need coaching. So doing some kind of a matchmaking
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 5: show without the coaching misses the whole point where if
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 5: you're not ready for love, if you're not really wanting
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 5: to understand why you're not in a relationship and work
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 5: on some of those things, it won't be successful.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 5: Andy Cohen, are you listening? Yeah.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: Who do you want for Andy Cohen?
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: Right. So, okay. The thing is, he is a ultimate
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 5: executive producer. He has an amazing career. He's made the
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: careers of so many people, but he likes control. And
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 5: so for him to be successful in a relationship, he
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: needs to take a beat and let someone else also
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 5: have some control. Planning a date, where to go, what
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: to do, who to see.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: Now, maybe, you know, because you're in the dating world,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 2: you're also a gay married man. Um, He has never,
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: that I know of, had any significant relationship in the
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: last 20 years, or has he, that I don't know about.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: I think, from what I know.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, listen, we know he gets.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: We know he gets guys.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: John Arthur Hill. John Arthur Hill.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: Who is, like, his now, like, platonic best friend, co-host, whatever.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: So they had something. But since that guy... Which, by
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: the way, and I think it was so smart that he,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: you know, became a father when he did, wasn't waiting
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: for a partner, didn't share it with somebody that then
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: you could have a horrible custody battle like our friend
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: Jeff Lewis has had. So I think with women, too, like,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: I think that is all good. Like, do your thing.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: I think it's a smart thing to do. You want
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: to be a parent at a certain age range, right? But, yeah,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: I would love– I mean, I would love to see
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: him– With somebody more long term. But I do think
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: it's still a crazy life. I think he's getting out
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: of the crazy life of like having a late night show,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: having guys I'm sure throw themselves at him.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 5: That's the big problem.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 5: So, you know, we can resist anything but temptation.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: And when you're in that position, when you're a football
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: player at your prime, when you're a professional athlete at
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 5: your prime. Every woman wants you, throws themselves at you.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 5: When you're a famous celebrity, this is what happens. This
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: is what's happening and has happened to him for the
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: last 20 years.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think there's a more popular gay
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: guy that has power that gay guys, I mean, not
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: only will gay guys love the shows you've been associated with.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: You're fun. You're cute.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 5: And that's why I think he needs to go into
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 5: the totally opposite direction. He can't be with anyone in entertainment.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 5: I think that's going to be much harder for him.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 5: I think getting someone that loves what he's built, you know,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 5: you have to take a step back and understand that
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 5: these are people.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 5: They are going to live and they're going to die
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 5: and they're going to maybe have kids. But they're regular
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 5: people who also have emotions and really just want to
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: be in relationships. I really would love to see him.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 5: in a long-term committed relationship if that's what he wants.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 5: We all start, we.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: Kind of live in this world.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 5: I believe that he does. I believe that he does
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 5: from the people that I know know him very well.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 5: He does want that. I think he's scared of commitment.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: I think especially once the kids are even past a
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: little bit of the baby stage, like once you're at
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: school and you have a bit of a breather and
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: you have a bit of a routine, I think he
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: would probably really enjoy to have someone have dinner with
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: him every night or whatever.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 5: Look, and who knows what a long-term relationship looks like
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 5: for everyone, especially if you're in the LGBTQ community. It
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 5: looks different. You could be polyamorous. You could be in
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 5: a committed relationship. You could be in an open relationship
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 5: or anything in between.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: So what about Kyle? Is Kyle a lesbian? Did she
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: just have a little.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 5: That's a nice pivot.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: Did she just have a little fun for a minute?
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: Did she and Mauricio have more of a open swinging
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: relationship throughout the years and were a little more open
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: sexually to things? Maybe they enjoyed threesomes. Maybe this wasn't
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: the first girl she got with. Or maybe it was
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: all an act. And like I said before, she just
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: stole a storyline from Selling Sunset.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: And just did it for fun and also.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: Really adores this girl, Morgan, and has a financial interest
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: in her career, which she does.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 5: And I think, you know, when we have clients come
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: through the door, we say we want, you know, a
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 5: lot of people are coming through. They've been in relationships.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: It hasn't worked out. They've been on these apps. I've
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 5: been on some dates, but they basically feel bad about
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: their experiences. And oftentimes they come with a view of scarcity.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 5: Like there's no one going to be for me. I
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 5: have very low self-worth or no one's going to find
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 5: me attractive at my age or I have kids or
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 5: I don't have a lot of money. So who's going
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: to want me? And we don't think about the world
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 5: in terms of abundance. And a lot of people would
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 5: find me attractive because I have these 10 amazing qualities.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 5: Who wouldn't want to be with someone like me? I'm
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 5: a great mom. I have great family relationships. I have
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 5: a great stable job. And so what we do at
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 5: our company is we try to re-educate a person and
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 5: to say, look, you're an amazing person. Let's tell you
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 5: what your accomplishments are. Because sometimes when someone else tells
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 5: you how great you are, you start to internalize and
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: becomes your new narrative.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 5: And then that helps you out when you're going on
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 5: dates because you realize your worth. If you don't think
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 5: you're worth it, it's going to be very hard to
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 5: be in a loving and caring relationship.
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 5: So the coaching part is really key.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: And you don't see that really on television.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I thoroughly enjoyed talking to you. Tell everybody
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: where they can follow you and find all your stuff.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 5: So if you go to Talkify.com or Talkify on Instagram,
• 1:29:04
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• 1:29:10
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• 1:29:12
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• 1:29:15
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• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: Yes, I love it. Well, and I hope they listen
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: and take my advice, though I know nothing. Yes.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 5: And if they let us film it, I would totally
• 1:29:27
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• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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