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  Speaker 1: the way that tire buying show me so our lead
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  Speaker 1: this hour is from a developing story over the weekend
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  Speaker 1: in The Big Easy, we go to the Bayou where
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  Speaker 1: a starting quarterback in the NFL has said no Moss
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  Speaker 1: tossed in the sponge. I give up, I'm done. I'm
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  Speaker 1: out see you later. Now. I originally thought this was
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  Speaker 1: an April Fools joke, and then I realized it's not April.
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  Speaker 1: It's May, so it can't be an April Fool's joke.
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  Speaker 1: And then I thought, well, maybe this is like sentel
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  Speaker 1: or Sports Talk. Barry, one of the satire accounts, but
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  Speaker 1: crack sports. It's probably not real. But no, it turns
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  Speaker 1: out it's real. New Orleans Saints quarterback Derek Carr has
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  Speaker 1: retired after eleven seasons in the NFL. Nana, na da,
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  Speaker 1: nada da da, good bye. See it. So we are
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  Speaker 1: told that Carr was dealing with a tear and degenerate
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  Speaker 1: condition with his rotator cuff and he was all messed
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  Speaker 1: up and that surgery would not guarantee a full return
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  Speaker 1: to starting status and effectiveness as a quarterback in the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: The Saints released a prepared statement, and in that prepared statement,
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  Speaker 1: Derek Carr, the reporting said that he tried all different options,
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  Speaker 1: all different options to get back on the field, and
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  Speaker 1: ultimately decided against having another surgery, and he will thus retire.
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  Speaker 1: So let us discuss Car has been around. We've talked
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  Speaker 1: about him a fair amount over the years, going back
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  Speaker 1: to his days with the old Oakland Raiders back in
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  Speaker 1: the day. So let's discuss the question what is Derek
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  Speaker 1: Carr's legacy in the NFL. So I've got brown bagger,
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  Speaker 1: freshwater fishing and Pepsi challenge, and we will combine all
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  Speaker 1: of these things together and we are going to make
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  Speaker 1: pastrami fries. That's fries covered in pastrami and delicious cheese
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  Speaker 1: on top, and yes, outstanding. So, first of all, from
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  Speaker 1: a gambling standpoint, I am upset. I loved betting against
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  Speaker 1: Derek Carr in big spots. There are very few quarterbacks
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  Speaker 1: that suck more under pressure than Derek Carr. Let's just
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  Speaker 1: call it like it is, right, this guy a great
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  Speaker 1: artist of the choke in big moments. You knew if
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  Speaker 1: the pressure was on, this guy would have tight toukas
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  Speaker 1: syndrome in big games, and we did pretty well. One
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  Speaker 1: of the things we've gotten right consistently big spot. Go
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  Speaker 1: against Derek Carr and you're gonna be on the right
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  Speaker 1: side of that game more times than not. But this
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  Speaker 1: was a weekend surprise. We did not have this on
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  Speaker 1: our particular bingo card, and we thought, again I was
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  Speaker 1: kind of fake and all that stuff, and obviously that
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  Speaker 1: was not the case. But Derek Carr, he wasn't. Some
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  Speaker 1: of the stories I've seen been like, well, this guy's
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  Speaker 1: what a heroic career, came out of nowhere. No, he
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  Speaker 1: wasn't undrafted, right, he wasn't undrafted. He was drafted I
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  Speaker 1: think in the second round. He wasn't underrated either. Does
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  Speaker 1: anyone think Derek Carr was underrated? He certainly wasn't overrated.
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  Speaker 1: He was always just kind of there. Derek Carr is
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  Speaker 1: just kind of there. That's it. I mean, he is rarely.
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  Speaker 1: You rarely acknowledge anything he did that was great because
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  Speaker 1: he didn't do anything really great. Carr is the equivalent
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  Speaker 1: as a starting quarterback in the NFL. He's like elevator music.
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  Speaker 1: He's just background noise. That's all he was. Now listen,
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  Speaker 1: oh you took. I'm not taking a shot. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: telling you how he but you don't have to like it.
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  Speaker 1: But his career is now over. He's done. And that's
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  Speaker 1: how I'm gonna remember Derek Carr. He was background music.
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  Speaker 1: He was right, the quiet hum of existence. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: His superpower.
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  Speaker 2: What was it?
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't throwing touchdown passes or interceptions of avoidance or
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  Speaker 1: sack avoidance, or making the big throw in a pressure situation.
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  Speaker 1: That was not his superpower. His superpower was as a
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  Speaker 1: brown bagger. Okay, he got a brown bag filled with cash,
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  Speaker 1: and then he got another one, and another one and
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  Speaker 1: another one. He certainly doesn't have to worry about going
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  Speaker 1: to Canton, Ohio and getting a gold jacket. But I
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  Speaker 1: would say that Derek Carr is eligible for the coveted
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  Speaker 1: brown jacket. First ballot Brown Jacket winner. Congratulations, go to
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  Speaker 1: the haberdashery and get fitted for your brown jacket. Car
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  Speaker 1: earned over two hundred million dollars on the field, two
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  Speaker 1: hundred million. He is the same vintage of quarterback. If
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  Speaker 1: you just say, who's the comp on Derek Carr. If
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  Speaker 1: I could have a Derek Carr typ quarterback, who would
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  Speaker 1: that be? That would be John Kittna if you remember him.
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  Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, who's still collecting paychecks as a backup Ryan Tannehill,
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  Speaker 1: a second rate quarterback who's not the worst. He's not
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  Speaker 1: certainly in a top ten at any point, not a
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  Speaker 1: top ten player, and he's somewhere in the middle, but
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  Speaker 1: on the lower end, sometimes slips down to a third
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  Speaker 1: tier quarterback. Now, is it true that Derek Carr played
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  Speaker 1: a role in the Raiders leaving Oakland? And the answer
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  Speaker 1: is absolutely yes. And this is one of those taboo
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  Speaker 1: topics people don't like to bring up. That's unfair. You
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't bring that up. Okay, why not? It's a fact
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  Speaker 1: that's on the resume. If you're an Oakland Raiders fan,
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  Speaker 1: you're still bitter and broken. One of the things you
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  Speaker 1: can point to an underlying condition for the Raiders why
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  Speaker 1: they left Oakland. Derek Efin Carr, Derek Efn Carr. Now,
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  Speaker 1: let me give you my evidence on this. Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna make my elevator pitch why Derek Carr one is
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  Speaker 1: partially to blame for the Raiders leaving for Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: A car turned out to be the last hope at
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  Speaker 1: quarterback for the Oakland Raiders, the last hope. He arrived
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  Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen as the starting quarterback for the Raiders
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  Speaker 1: had in a parallel of the mention this happened, Derek
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  Speaker 1: Carr galvanized the Raiders and put the team on his
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  Speaker 1: back and led the franchise right, led the franchise to
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  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. Derek Carr could have would have kept
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  Speaker 1: the team from leaving for Vegas, who too built the politicians. Well,
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  Speaker 1: one thing I know about sleeves ball politicians, they love
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  Speaker 1: a winner, and the Raiders were losers in Oakland. They
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  Speaker 1: were pathetic the second time they went to Oakland, so
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  Speaker 1: they were a pathetic group. Of players. Had they won
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  Speaker 1: in that final push the last couple of years they
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  Speaker 1: were the Oakland Raiders, you could have worked out a
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  Speaker 1: deal and the team would have built a stadium. The
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  Speaker 1: politicians would have worked out a deal to build a politician.
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  Speaker 1: Even in California, the People's Republic of California, there was
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  Speaker 1: a path through a stadium. But Derek Carr sucked at
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  Speaker 1: a time he cannot suck, and he was just good
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  Speaker 1: enough to drive you crazy, to pull your hair out,
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  Speaker 1: and because he would suck in big moments and all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff, and instead he put up would turned out
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  Speaker 1: to be empty stats with the Oakland Raiders, and then
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  Speaker 1: was with the team when they moved to Las Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: They got the stadium deal, but they didn't get in Oakland.
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  Speaker 1: They got it in Vegas because Vegas has a lot
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  Speaker 1: of money and they were desperate for a team and
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  Speaker 1: they were horny for a team. And so that's what happened.
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  Speaker 1: Now with Derek Cargan, Gonzo the Muppet, what's next for
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  Speaker 1: the Saints? What is next for the Saints? So it's
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  Speaker 1: the great unknown. Now he looks bad, man doesn't look bad.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like this is gonna be an zero to
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  Speaker 1: sixteen quarterback room. You have right now the de facto starter.
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck is the starter. Shucks. Tyler Shuck, who is that?
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  Speaker 1: He was a twenty five year old, was at Louisville
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  Speaker 1: and was just drafted with the I believe it was
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  Speaker 1: the fortieth overall pick. I think if I'm running it,
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  Speaker 1: So he was drafted by the New Orleans Saints. He's
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  Speaker 1: the de facto starter. Now, if Shuck can't shuck it,
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  Speaker 1: they'll get rid of him. And then they have Spencer Rattler.
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  Speaker 1: I'd rather have a snake Rattler than Spencer Rattler. So
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  Speaker 1: he's there. Then you have somebody named Jake Hayner who
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  Speaker 1: is also in the quarterback room. Yeah, that's they should
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  Speaker 1: just put a King Kobra out there with the rattler.
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  Speaker 1: That would be entertaining. No one would sack if you
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  Speaker 1: had an actual life size rattlesnake. I think those big,
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  Speaker 1: tough defensive players would try to sack a rattlesnake. Hell no, now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how a rattlesnak would throw the ball,
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  Speaker 1: but imagine the rattlesnake on a quarterback keeper. You're gonna
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  Speaker 1: run for a touchdown every time noy'body defenders jumping off
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  Speaker 1: as the rattler goes down the field into the end zone.
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  Speaker 1: Me anyway, So it doesn't matter which way you go,
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  Speaker 1: you got You've got suck, crap, and garbage. Those are
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  Speaker 1: the three options at quarterbacks. So good luck to the
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  Speaker 1: Saints there. They're trying to find lightning in a bottle
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  Speaker 1: and it's fine. It's not like they were gonna win
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  Speaker 1: anything with Derek Carr anyway, Okay, when they were not.
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  Speaker 1: be our lead. This hour is from baseball. That's right, baseball.
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  Speaker 1: What you didn't start with an NBA game? What's wrong
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  Speaker 1: with you? Oh? My guys? The playoffs? You know? Like basketball?
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  Speaker 1: Shut up? So I made an editorial decision. I made
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  Speaker 1: that would be that, and I'd move on and then
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  Speaker 1: we take calls and that's normally how it goes. But
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  Speaker 1: this night different than all other nights. Why is this
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  Speaker 1: night different than all other nights? Well, I've made an
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  Speaker 1: editorial decision. It's not every day that Lifetime bands are
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  Speaker 1: over done and players are welcome back. And this is
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  Speaker 1: a story that has kind of followed me if you will,
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  Speaker 1: since I got into the talk radio world when I
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  Speaker 1: was a young lad back in the day. So I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was an interesting story, and I think it's
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  Speaker 1: worth some conversation here at the start, and we'll get
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  Speaker 1: into the basketball games. We've got four hours of nonsense.
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  Speaker 1: That's a long time to talk. That's a lot of talk,
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  Speaker 1: so plenty of time to get to everything. But I
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  Speaker 1: want to start with the baseball And I assume you've
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  Speaker 1: heard by now, but possibly you live in a box
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  Speaker 1: and you have not heard. We really love people that
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  Speaker 1: live in shoe boxes. It's good for us. So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, if you missed it, major League Baseball's commissioner.
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  Speaker 1: We like to call them Rob manfraud. But Rob Manford
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  Speaker 1: has removed Pete Rose from the ineligible list. He's back.
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  Speaker 1: He's also dead. Also, welcome back, shoeless Joe Jackson, also dead.
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  Speaker 1: There's a theme if you're dead and your band Rob
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  Speaker 1: Manford likes you, welcome back, Welcome back. Now you're dead,
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  Speaker 1: but you're back. The permanent ineligible list of Major League Baseball.
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  Speaker 1: You've got a bunch of deceased players. But the headline
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  Speaker 1: Joe Jackson. There were movies made many years ago. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how many people today even though who
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  Speaker 1: Joe Jackson was shoeless Joe Jackson, but Pete Rose shoeless
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  Speaker 1: Joe Jackson. Couple of figures in baseball's past that have
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  Speaker 1: been welcome back now as a result, and you don't
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  Speaker 1: bury the lead, my man. All right, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: bear the lead. So as a result, here it's really
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  Speaker 1: about Pete Rose. Pete Rose, major League Baseball's all time
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  Speaker 1: hit leader. He's now eligible, as it is shoeless Joe
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  Speaker 1: Jackson eligible for election to the Baseball Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 1: Keep in mind that President Trump helped get this done.
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  Speaker 1: The President met with Rob Manford recently, and all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, shortly after that, wonder what kind of deal
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  Speaker 1: they worked out? Hey, let Pete back in. We'll let
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  Speaker 1: you continue to screw fans over with the nickel and
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  Speaker 1: Dime Major League Baseball TV package. Who knows, but either way,
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  Speaker 1: Rob Manford has done it. He has removed Pete Rose
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  Speaker 1: from the ineligible list. So let us discuss the question
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  Speaker 1: for the esteem panel. How do you dissect Rob Manford's
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  Speaker 1: decision to let Pete Rose and these other dead players
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  Speaker 1: including shoeless Joe Jackson back into baseball. So I've got profit,
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  Speaker 1: I've got blue ribbon and home depot, and we will
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  Speaker 1: combine all of these things together and we're going to
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  Speaker 1: make a line drive base it up the middle. That's
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  Speaker 1: what we're gonna make, all right. So the word I
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  Speaker 1: have for this I didn't ask for a word, But
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  Speaker 1: the word I have for this move by Rob Manford
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  Speaker 1: to allow Pete Rose back in baseball, my word is cosmetic.
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  Speaker 1: That is my word. It is a cosmetic move by
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  Speaker 1: Rob Manford. Now I mentioned this is a nostalgias story.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I'm starting to show with it. So when
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  Speaker 1: I started in radio, I was a young lad. I
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  Speaker 1: was a teenager and I walked into the radio station
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  Speaker 1: in San Diego, the mighty six ninety man. I thought
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  Speaker 1: this was the big leagues, right, this is seventy seven
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  Speaker 1: thousand watt radio station in San Diego. It was a
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  Speaker 1: border blaster station. The transmitter was actually in Mexico and
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  Speaker 1: it blasted all over and at that time, before the Interweb,
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  Speaker 1: it was a big deal. And I remember I was
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  Speaker 1: an intern for this guy Lee Hacksaw Hamilton, who was
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  Speaker 1: like my mentor. One of my mentors in radio, and
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  Speaker 1: at that time it had only been a few years.
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  Speaker 1: I'm dating myself, but it only been a few years
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  Speaker 1: since Pete Rose had been banned from baseball. And I
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  Speaker 1: learned quickly from observation that when you had a slow day,
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  Speaker 1: I was a young whipper snapper, But when you had
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  Speaker 1: a slow day in sports radio and you wanted to
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  Speaker 1: stir things up, what you did is you said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Pete Rose, did he bet on baseball? Should he be
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  Speaker 1: banned from baseball? Should they remove the band? And then
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  Speaker 1: you give out the number, and the phones light up
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  Speaker 1: like a Christmas tree, And it was for years. It
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  Speaker 1: was the go to conversation. It was the go to conversation,
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  Speaker 1: and everything went light up, and people had very strong
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  Speaker 1: opinions and both ways, both ways on that. So I
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  Speaker 1: look at this as cosmetic now, because yeah, Rob Manford
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  Speaker 1: will get some brownie points, He'll get some brownie points
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  Speaker 1: for this reinstating Pete Rose at this point, if you
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  Speaker 1: do the calculus on this using the Mallard man, it's
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  Speaker 1: a pr win for baseball. Yeah, there are some people
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  Speaker 1: complaining and ranting and saying, you know, Peteza scumbag and
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  Speaker 1: shouldn't be welcome back and all that stuff. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the old timers, the old time I'merson and I still
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  Speaker 1: occasionally get a call it Pete Rose with a Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame. I mentioned dick In Dayton's name here earlier,
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  Speaker 1: and that's the number one Pete Rose fan. I know
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  Speaker 1: the number there. But for me, the idea of putting
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  Speaker 1: Pete Rose back on the eligible list is a fruitless endeavor.
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  Speaker 1: It's a fruitless endeavor. And here's why they have both
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  Speaker 1: left this. Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson have left
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  Speaker 1: this mortal coil. They're dead. And it always, it's always
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  Speaker 1: annoyed me when you celebrate, like the Hall of Fame,
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  Speaker 1: when they put people in who are, like you're dead,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's like, Okay, celebrate people while they're alive.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a big celebrate people while they're alive person. Pete
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  Speaker 1: Rose died seven months ago, in September of last year.
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  Speaker 1: Shoeless Joe Jackson, he has been dead for seventy three years.
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  Speaker 1: He died in nineteen fifty one. Okay, so he's been
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  Speaker 1: gone for a while. And Pete Rose, the whole Charlie
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  Speaker 1: Hustle thing and all that, and there were generation of
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  Speaker 1: fans but that worshiped Pete Rose played forever. And while
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  Speaker 1: Pete is known as Charlie Hustle, he gets another nickname
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  Speaker 1: in death, Pete the Prophet. Now we mentioned this in
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  Speaker 1: a previous episode of the show. Is it true that
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  Speaker 1: Pete Rose, in what could have been his final interview,
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  Speaker 1: his final interview before he died, mentioned this very thing happening,
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  Speaker 1: mentioned this very outcome well ten days before Pete Rose
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: left this world that we all share. Pete Rose said
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: just ten days before he died that he wouldn't make
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the Baseball Hall of Fame until after he died. He
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: said it, He said it ten days before he left us,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: and Rose was spitting mad. He said, if I'm gone,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: it don't matter. Pete Rose said, who the f wants
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: to go in when you're dead? Ding ding ding ding ding.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: That's a good hot take by Pete and I agree
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: with him. I absolutely agree. Now, I had heard early
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: on that the world of baseball was never going to
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: allow Pete back while he was alive, because the generations
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: were upset. They felt he played a role in the
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: death of Bart Giamani, who had been the commissioner for
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: a very short time, even though bart was overweight and
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: had all kinds of problems. But anyway, so fine, So
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: there you go. Pete Rose, the prophet, Pete the Prophet
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: predicted this. And as far as Joe Jackson and Pete Rose,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: there were movies made about both and documentaries books written
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: about all this stuff. And I know in the early
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: days of Fox Sports Radio, there's a restaurant. We're at
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the corner of Venturince of Palvity here in the valley,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: and right across the street there was an Italian restaurant.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: And when I started at this company, every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: and Thursday you could find Pete Rose holding court at
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the bar at this Italian restaurant. Everyone knew it. If
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: you want to see Pete, go over there. Pete will
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: be over there. He'll be having drinks and a bunch
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: of other old ballplayers would be hanging out from his
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: era in the in the sixties and the seventies. They'd
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: be hanging out with Pete and they just tell old
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: war stories while they had cocktails and appetizer. And then
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Pete eventually just moved to Vegas because he was making
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: so much money. He's selling autographs. He just moved there
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: full time. But for years he lived right you know,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: live right here and was right across the street. Now,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: where does the Pete Rose Hall of Fame movement go?
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Now there's there's something. Well, he's in the Hall of Fame.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: You know, he's not in the Hall of Fame. He
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: hasn't been put in the Hall of Fame. So where
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Pete Rose in death goes in terms of the campaign
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: for the Hall of fame red and tape bureaucracy, those
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: are words you can use. Red tape bureaucracy. There is
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: no sense of urgency and why would there But he's dead,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: you're not coming back. So Pete Rose was banned from
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: baseball in nineteen eighty nine. It's been a minute for
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: gambling on the Cincinnati Reds and while he was managing
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the team and the legend when he didn't bet on
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the Reds that let everyone know who was taking the bets,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: that he didn't think they were going to win. Blah
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. But the National Baseball Hall of
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Fame in Cooperstown, York made him ineligible from induction, and
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: that was in nineteen ninety one. That was his first
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: year eligible because he was a player manager in Cincinnati,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and as we understand it, again trying to keep up
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: on all the details on us. As we understand it,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the rank and file baseball scribes and our buddies like
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Rob Parker and the baseball writers who love to have
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: that ballot and vote, they will not get the vote
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: on this. Pete Rose's future for the Hall of Fame
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: ultimately will be decided by a handpicked blue ribbon panel.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: You know blue ribbon panels. I love a good blue
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: ribbon panel. So that will consist of ten to twelve reps,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: handpicked that will decide the Historical Overview Committee. That just
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: sounds like bureaucracy. The Historical Overview Committee will develop a
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: ballot of eight names. We assume Pete Rose will be
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: on there. The Classic Baseball Era Committee will evaluate the
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: candidates and those that had the greatest impact on the
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: game before nineteen eighty and no vote though will take
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: place before December of twenty twenty seven, which means the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: earliest Pete Rose would have There'll be a ceremony to
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: honor he's dead, but to honor Pete would be in
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: the summer of twenty twenty eight. So here we are
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five in May, so you got to
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: get through the rest of this year, twenty six, twenty seven,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: so we're looking at over three years, and that's the
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: quickest as I understand it, this could happen. Now, was
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Pete Rose guaranteed of being elected to the Hall of Fame? No,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: he's not. Even with this, he's not. There are sure
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: to be some that will hold grudges. I've already seen
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: some hot take artists out there, the artists in of
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: the hot take that have said no, no, no, no, no,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Pete Rose is a scumbag, he's a dope, He's a loser.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: That's the counter argument. It's hard to fight that Pete
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: was a shady guy, and so that's it's not you know,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I don't really care about the tax return thing. There
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: was an incident in twenty seventeen he was actually doing
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: TV stuff and he was accused of statutory rape. There
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: was a counter earlier. There's no my nods, there was
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: no criminal charger. It was an accusation that was made.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: So do that with what you want. And now the
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: last word here, So assuming this does go the way
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: it's going and Pete ultimately wand up into the Hall
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: of Fame at some point here even though he's dead.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: What does Pete Rose being given reinstatement. Let's focus on
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: this being given reinstatement to Major League Baseball do for
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: the guys like Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens, the steroid
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: people of baseball who are also not in the Hall
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: of Fame. Even though there are steroid players in the
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, players that we are relatively confident did
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: steroids but are allowed in there are not on the
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: naughty list, but Barry Bonds is on the natty list,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and Roger Clemens and several other of these cats. So
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: on the surface. After a minutes long Mallard deliberation on
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the Ben Maler Show, we have determined that this does
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: bupkus for Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, Sammy Sosa, that vintage
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: of player. Now Barry Bonds and his steroid brethren of
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: that era the issues. They're not banned from baseball. They're
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: not banned. It's just done on the down low. It's
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: on the DL right to down low, and their persona
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: non grata for the Hall of Fame. However, here's the
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: here's the interesting wrinkle to this. What this Pete Rose
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: update does do for Barry Bonds and the other steroid players,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: the other pd pals, is it provides them a road
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: map on how to get into Cooperstown and without being Macab,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: which means I'm going to be Macab. Barry Bonds and
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: these other cats need to go down to Home Depot
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: and buy a bucket. And at some point, we know
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: the endgame on life, we know how it ends. We
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: don't know when it's gonna end. We know how it's
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: going to end. So at some point Barry Bonds and
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: everyone else, once they kick the bucket, then all of
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: a sudden, well we're going to panel together. We'll put
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: these guys in the Hall of Fame. But you got
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: to kick the bucket, So go get bucket at Home Depot,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: kick the b there you go.
• 27:00
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• 27:08
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• 27:12
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• 27:17
  Speaker 1: A timeout for Malo's amount of money has made our
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: contestants for this game show we have a Jed who fled?
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Who's going to play? Hello? Jed? Okay, Hello Charlie. I
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: love with Charlie.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Dude, I love Charlie. I love you.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: He's a kid. Leave alone? And did you don't? Don't
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: influence the man, Jed? No, who do you want to
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: partner up with? Jed? That was now invailable? Okay, that's
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: right down l next to your name? Lorena picked door
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: number one, door number two or door number three? Number three?
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: All right, well you're gonna picked Greg in South Carolina? Hello, Greg,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I'm going on there he is. Look at this guy. Unbelievable. Greg,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: you won the pick number three. You were on the
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: third line. Look at that.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: That's right? All right? And Greg, what part of South
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Carolina are you in? I am from Gasney, the home
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: of the Peak. There you go home, Jaffny, that's where
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: you've heard of that coup?
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Frank Underwood, the fictional character from uh the House
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: of Cards?
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Right, but that was not in those shows. Oh yeah, Hollywood,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: you use the name, but a different location. That's terrible. Ye, right, Well,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: who do you want to partner up with?
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: There?
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Greg? You got me Ben or Lorraine if you want
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: some fun. I know a couple of these this time. Okay,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: all right, all right, I guess you picked me a
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: fine very good justin you're with Jed. Jed pick a category.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Please hold on a second, make sure everyone's on. Don't
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: hang up on you. All right.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: This is the Stevie Wonder edition of Mallage Amount of Money.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: He turned seventy five years old today.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Seventy five. You know he's been able to see his
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: whole life. Uh.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: The category is sign sealed delivered on yours superstition higher
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: ground or isn't she lovely?
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Jed? What would you like about highround? Oh? Of course?
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Uh? And then Greg, how about you? Which category would
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: you like? Superstition superstition? All right, so, so Jed, you
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: and I are up first. You know the rules of
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: the game, so I'm not going to tell them to you.
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: Forty five seconds on the clock, we have higher ground.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: These athletes got better after changing teams. Forty five seconds begin.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: He was on the Chargers, then he went on to
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: the Saints to win a Super Bowl. Quarterback. Yes, this
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: guy was on the Clippers. He is now the MVP
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: on the Oklahoma City Thunder.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I got no, I get holy crap, Holy crap. He's
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: got like three names hyphenated last name. All right, all right,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: we's okay, we'll skip it. This guy is now a
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: star on the New York Knicks.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: He came from the Dallas Mavericks. Yes, no, you, no,
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: you got it, the by you star. He was the
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: backup for Joe Montana Hiver doctor. Yes, this guy was
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: nicknamed the bus running back. Yes, this guy was dropped
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: out of high school. He was on the Pacers.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: He was part of the mollah You really got hung
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: up on shake Yogas Alexander. Yeah, current MVP man. All right,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: well we're up, Greg. Let's show him how it's done here, Greg,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: let's scool these cats. No problem. You picked superstition, Is
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: that correct? Correct? All right? These athletes all are known
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: to be superstitious. Are you ready, Gregg? Forty five seconds
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: on the clock. Are you ready? Ready? All right? Ron
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: a waygo, quarterback for the Chiefs right now, Becker, Yes,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: tight end for the forty nine ers. White guy York, Yes,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: the big fundamental for the San Antonio Spurs back in
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the early two thousands and the late nineties. Center. All right,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: let's go to a baseball player. Third basement for the
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Red Sox in the nineteen eighties. Hall of Famer. Yes,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: basketball player for the Dallas Mavericks. He wore high socks.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: All right, no basketball for you. How about this baseball
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: player was a closer for the Cubs and the Mets.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: He liked to chew licorice between innings. Kind of an
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: eccentric to superstitious guy. White guy in the nineties. Speaking
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: of nineties, you got ninety points. Wow, that means we
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: can go again. Oh good, are exciting? You didn't get
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't even try Rafiel on the doll but you
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: didn't get him much. Jim Duncan, Jim Duncan and Jason Tay.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: You're not a basketball guy, Greg, No, okay, we're screwed.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: All right? What category we have? What do we have? Signed?
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Sealed delivered? I'm yours? And isn't she lovely? Isn't isn't she?
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Ah?
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't she's just lovely? Deliver me? Shut up? All right?
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: These athletes recently I'm not gonna try the basketball names.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: These athletes did not even did not are these athletes
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: recently had a daughter? So here we go. Are you ready? Greg?
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: All right? Forty five seconds on the clock. Here would
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: go go. Quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys right now. Yes,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: slugger from Japan. He's also a pitcher for the Dodgers. Yeah.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Quarterback for the Carolina Panthers when they won when when
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: they went to the Super Bowl. Was the MVP. Yes,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: wide receiver for the Bengals. He changed his name. Yes, pitcher.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: He was the ace of the Milwaukee Brewers. He went
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: to the Orioles. He's still pitching. He's on the Diamondbacks now.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Last name is like the the guy from the Simpsons,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the owner of the power plant there.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, I don't even try the basketball name. So
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: you got those right, and it should be one of
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: them enough you it was Corbyn Burns, remember corpor Yeah,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: but you got all the other ones. I even try
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: the basketball ones because he got one night. All right, Jed,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: we need fifty points here to tie. Choke shed six,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: do not choke, shed choke, don't choke. I'm not sign
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I'm just I'm telling him not to choke. I don't
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: still delivered on yours.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: These athletes were practically given away in lopsided trades. Do
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: not choke forty five seconds on the clock. Choke and
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: let's begin, all right. This guy was an MVP for
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: the Red Sox. He's now on the Dodgers. Yes, all right, Uh,
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: he's not confident. This guy was a running back for
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: the Rams, part of the Greatest.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: Show on Turf markall fault.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Yes, that ties us. This guy was a slugger for
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: the Oakland A's. He went to the Cardinals. He was
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: a cheater.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: No chance, no chance, no big, no joke. Don't joke Red,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: don't joke jads big Red. He was on the race
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: with Sammy Sosa football. Yes, not in here that I
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: had tried. I didn't try to change stop. I didn't
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: try to change that. I didn't try to change sing.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: You check your ass down there? Cool? You do notice
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: that though you shick your ass down. Okay, that's bullcrap.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: You put a guy on that doesn't no basketball and
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: you had basketball thiss. You cheated, You cheated, You're a chain,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: you cheated. You put up the non basketball guy and
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: you asked basketball questions.