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The Trump Assassination Theories · Conspiracy! The Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Conspiracy The Show, the world's most trusted conspiracy
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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy The Show. I'm your host,
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Speaker 2: Adam Todd Brown joining me as co host this week.
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Speaker 2: Connor mcspaden's here, Connor, how's it going.
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Speaker 3: Good to be back in the trap as always with you, Adam,
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Speaker 3: at this critical juncture in American history.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're coming together to heal the nation right now.
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Speaker 3: It is fun when you live every day of your
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Speaker 3: life reading about chemical chambers underneath the Great Pyramid in
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Speaker 3: Michael Aquino books and all this shit, and then.
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Speaker 4: Suddenly everybody's a conspiracy theorist. Everybody has an idea all
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Speaker 4: of a sudden. Oh okay, now we're questioning the government. Okay, everybody,
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Speaker 4: Now you don't trust them either.
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Speaker 5: Cool?
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Speaker 6: Good for you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is exactly how I feel about this, because
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Speaker 2: I've been hosting a conspiracy theory podcast since twenty sixteen,
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Speaker 2: seventeen something like that, And boy do I get scoffs
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Speaker 2: from people on the left when I mentioned.
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Speaker 3: That every time I'm at a party and I just
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Speaker 3: want to talk to people and give him the good
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Speaker 3: word about Elvis and that he's still alive spreading good
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Speaker 3: news all of a sudden.
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Speaker 6: I'm some kind of creep.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Cia in Jonestown. That's another party favorite that I
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Speaker 2: like to bring up.
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Speaker 3: Oh, the Unibomber's Manifesto actually being really good is a
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Speaker 3: great Drew Michael joke and also just a fact about
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Speaker 3: that piece of writing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a very good piece of writing.
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Speaker 3: If we'd followed the Unibomber Manifesto from nineteen seventy whatever
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Speaker 3: to today, we would live in a better society. There'd
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Speaker 3: be community vegetable gardens and fucking compost heaps and shit.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the very uncomfortable truth about the Unibomber Manifesto.
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Speaker 2: He's kind of right.
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Speaker 6: That's not uncomfortable to me.
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Speaker 2: I know. I promised last week that we would be
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Speaker 2: talking about Ronald Reagan on this episode Total one eight,
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Speaker 2: But as everyone knows, something happened, so now we're talking
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Speaker 2: about other Ronald Reagan, Donald Trump.
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Speaker 3: It actually is the opposite of Ronald Reagan because it
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Speaker 3: was a guy who had the right size gun but
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Speaker 3: the wrong accuracy, as opposed to Ronald Reagan is a
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Speaker 3: guy with the incorrect sized gun with the correct bullet placement.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. The first thing I thought when I heard that
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Speaker 2: Trump was shot but survived. My immediate thought was, man,
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Speaker 2: this guy really does think he's Reagan.
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Speaker 3: Huh, yeah, make America great again?
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Speaker 2: You know all of it.
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Speaker 3: Even presidents are just corp reboots now, you know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he is really following in Reagan's footsteps. And that
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Speaker 2: this also happened. It seems almost too perfect. But I
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Speaker 2: guess that's what we're going to talk about today because
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Speaker 2: there have been a lot of conspiracy theories that have
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Speaker 2: popped up around this, and I don't think that's unwarranted.
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Speaker 2: I just wish the left would take this as a
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Speaker 2: moment to realize that questioning the government isn't a thing
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Speaker 2: you should get mocked for. So let's just dive into
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Speaker 2: some of these theories. There's a bunch of them, some
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Speaker 2: more believable than others. The one I have heard the most,
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Speaker 2: I would say, is a pretty innocuous one, which is
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Speaker 2: Trump wasn't hit by a bullet, He was hit by
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Speaker 2: a piece of glass from a broken teleprompter.
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Speaker 3: That was the one I was going to bring up.
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Speaker 3: I don't even know why you would make that a theory. Okay,
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Speaker 3: it was a different minor injury caused by the shot
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Speaker 3: of a gun.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like one of the most unimportant details
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Speaker 2: to me because it doesn't make what happened not an
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Speaker 2: attempted assassination exactly.
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Speaker 3: And I also think the photo of the really long
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Speaker 3: bullet flying through the air into his ear is pretty
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Speaker 3: good evidence.
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Speaker 6: So yeah, you seen that picture.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that picture is wild.
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Speaker 3: You know, when that guy was going through his shots,
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Speaker 3: he was like, fuck, yeah, I'm getting that kitchen remodel.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that guy I hope is rich now. Yeah, probably not,
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Speaker 2: because he was just doing it in the course of his.
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Speaker 3: Own Oh if like fucking Huffington Post already owns that
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Speaker 3: picture and just gets a flat.
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Speaker 2: Rate New York Times salary, that is.
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Speaker 3: Like every story about Oh and this album cover was
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Speaker 3: designed by a Bavarian woman who got paid three pennies
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Speaker 3: and a loaf of bread.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, this theory that a piece of glass hit him,
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Speaker 2: I trust Snopes about as much as I trust Trump.
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Speaker 2: But Snopes did nail it when it comes to this theory.
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Speaker 2: If your claim is that Trump was hit by a
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Speaker 2: piece of glass from a broken teleprompter, you can just
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Speaker 2: look at the pictures of Secret Service taking him away.
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Speaker 2: If you look at a wide shot, you see both
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Speaker 2: teleprompters are completely unharmed.
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Speaker 3: So game, set and match. Is there a name for
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Speaker 3: the piece of glass? Guys like glassheads? Like fucking glassheads. No,
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Speaker 3: this was all a fucking hoax.
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Speaker 2: That wouldn't surprise me. And again, even if it was
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Speaker 2: glass that hit him, that part doesn't matter.
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Speaker 3: The fucking picture of him pumping this fist. I forget
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Speaker 3: who I saw point this out. That's not my observation.
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Speaker 3: But someone was like, so Donald Trump literally got shot
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Speaker 3: in the head, fell down to his knees, realized he
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Speaker 3: was fine, thought it's content time, and then popped back
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Speaker 3: up and was like, let me get some fucking gifts
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Speaker 3: going for the revolution.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that was smart of him.
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Speaker 3: He's an absolute master at human like there's like a
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Speaker 3: like an a quality in comedy where if you're on
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Speaker 3: stage telling jokes to people, you have to have this
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Speaker 3: kind of like alpha confidence. I hate to use that
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Speaker 3: terminology because it's so beaten to death, but you have to,
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Speaker 3: you know, project a certain kind of like animal dominance.
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Speaker 3: And he just understands that fucking dynamics. So well as
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Speaker 3: a roast comedian, as someone who's literally picked apart and
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Speaker 3: studied the fucking science of dominating another person. In this case,
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Speaker 3: let's say Joe Biden.
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Speaker 6: He just gets it.
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Speaker 3: Once I saw it, I was like, Oh, we're so fucked.
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Speaker 3: He played that so perfectly.
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Speaker 2: Whoever ends up running against him in November, it's bad
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Speaker 2: for them because this is gonna be hard to overcome.
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Speaker 2: That is a fucking iconic photo. And what other assassination
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Speaker 2: that we have that kind of photo. None.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe there's like a Dagaria type of Theodore Roosevelt
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Speaker 3: finishing his speech or something, but even then it's not
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Speaker 3: as impactful. And almost nobody is like putting together a
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Speaker 3: case that Trump staged this to make himself look good.
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Speaker 3: You know, everyone seems to be buying that this was
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Speaker 3: either a lone wolf or some sort of shady deep
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Speaker 3: state political machine. No one's like he did this himself
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Speaker 3: for clout. You know, he seems to have gotten the
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Speaker 3: clean fucking pr moment out of it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that was one of the big conspiracy theories
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Speaker 2: on the left after this was that he staged it.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know, I really hate the way that
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Speaker 2: is being covered because listen, we're talking about the only
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Speaker 2: US president to ever receive a stone cold stunner. If
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Speaker 2: you watch that clip, Donald Trump knows how to act.
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Speaker 2: Wrestling is fake, but also you have to sell it
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Speaker 2: and make it look convincing. And he takes the shit
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Speaker 2: out of that kick to the stomach followed by a
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Speaker 2: stone cold stunner from stone cold Steve Austin. So people
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Speaker 2: can fucking miss me with the idea that Trump couldn't
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Speaker 2: have staged this. He's an actor, he's an entertainer, he's
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Speaker 2: a personality. He would be the perfect president or presidential
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Speaker 2: candidate to pull some shit like this with. And I
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Speaker 2: think the one good point I've heard in regards to
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Speaker 2: this being staged is, since when do Secret Service just
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Speaker 2: let you stand there and pump your fist when there
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Speaker 2: are bullets flying around? That part, I guess, is weird.
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Speaker 6: That is weird.
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Speaker 3: I could also just see, Okay, I'm the Secret Service
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Speaker 3: and then here's the most popular guy of all time
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Speaker 3: telling me to do something I don't know. He's the boss.
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Speaker 2: And also it seems like they had to have known
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Speaker 2: the shooting was done by then.
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Speaker 3: I feel like in some of those clips you can
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Speaker 3: hear someone yell threat down or some shit like that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they would have gotten up if
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Speaker 2: there was still an active shooter. And that's one of
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Speaker 2: the things people have been saying, is, oh, they're an
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Speaker 2: active shooter and that you just pick him up and
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Speaker 2: take him off stage. I think the shooting was done
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Speaker 2: by that point, because that would have been crazy. Now
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Speaker 2: we gotta go now fuck it.
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Speaker 3: This is already a rather messy coup of whatever kind
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Speaker 3: it is, but that would have just been really embarrassing.
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Speaker 2: So the idea that it was staged, I guess.
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Speaker 3: You could have a blood pack in the ear, you know,
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Speaker 3: or something like.
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Speaker 2: Well, there's also blading, which is what they do in wrestling,
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Speaker 2: like when you see someone bleeding from their forehead.
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Speaker 3: Oh, he went down, and then he had a little
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Speaker 3: fucking razor in his cuff link or whatever.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like tape around his finger maybe, and you get
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Speaker 2: rid of that. I don't know. It could have been faked,
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Speaker 2: because one of the arguments you hear against it is well,
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Speaker 2: it was all on TV. How could it be fake.
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Speaker 2: No one's saying that there weren't shots fired, like a
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Speaker 2: guy died in the audience, So of course that. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: And also I think a better question would be did
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Speaker 2: they have an inkling that this was going to happen
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Speaker 2: and just let it get to that point where they
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Speaker 2: could shoot someone? But God, that would be risky.
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Speaker 3: But seems like that's some of the most damning evidence
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Speaker 3: for this being some sort of a deep state coup.
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Speaker 3: To me, this is a very serious his government agency,
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Speaker 3: and it's part of their policy to secure rooftops within
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Speaker 3: a certain perimeter, and these rooftops are all unsecured. The
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Speaker 3: protocol then says, if you don't have enough secret service guys,
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Speaker 3: stick some fucking local cops up there. And there was
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Speaker 3: no local cops up there. And that wasn't like there
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Speaker 3: wasn't an abundance of them milling around the rally. There's
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Speaker 3: videos of them all over the place. Put four of
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Speaker 3: them on the roof.
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Speaker 2: They were in the building he was on. That's where
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Speaker 2: the police were staged.
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Speaker 3: Gee, hey, fellas, do you guys hear something on the roof? Nah,
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Speaker 3: it's probably fine chomps donut. I've been thinking this is
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Speaker 3: a complete sidebar. But how does the guy who's YouTube
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Speaker 3: channel he was wearing the merch of feel about this?
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Speaker 3: He was wearing YouTube merch from like a guy with
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Speaker 3: like a gun channel. He's got to be like, oh,
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Speaker 3: this is the best and worst press of all. His
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Speaker 3: followers have got to have some large percentage of Trump
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Speaker 3: people that are like this guy tried to kill the breath.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that, I mean, I can kind of relate. There
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Speaker 2: was the mass shooting in I think it was Dayton, Ohio.
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Speaker 2: I'm almost positive that guy wasn't on Pops listener. Really,
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Speaker 2: he was definitely familiar with the cracked orbit because he
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Speaker 2: had quote tweeted a video by Cody Johnston okay, and
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Speaker 2: the caption he wrote just said vote blue, no matter who.
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Speaker 2: And that's the fucking Dayton shooter. Wow. So that I remember.
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Speaker 3: So there's a chance that he popped in a clip
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Speaker 3: and he's like, I'm gonna do to them what Connor
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Speaker 3: mcs ben did to Randall Maynard.
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Speaker 2: Possibly, Yeah, that was jarring.
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Speaker 3: It's a great Dug standout bit about reading the Christopher
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Speaker 3: Dorner Manifesto and thinking like he heard that he listed
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Speaker 3: his ten favorite comedians. So he's reading this manifesto with
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Speaker 3: Glee going finally my big break, and he's like, I
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Speaker 3: got to the fucking list and I was snubbed. You're
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Speaker 3: telling me that the comedy stylings of Margaret Show make
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Speaker 3: you want to commit genocide.
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Speaker 2: The Christopher Dorner Manifesto is a wild fucking ride.
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Speaker 3: I haven't read all of that one. The Elliott Rodgers
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Speaker 3: one is pretty fucking sad, like it is a I
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Speaker 3: don't know, it's like it was seeing a four un
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Speaker 3: guy's inner thoughts is rough. The Dorner one is kind
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Speaker 3: of like all over the place, and he's like, and
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Speaker 3: here are some of my favorite recipes.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: He at one point expresses regret that he's not going
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Speaker 2: to get to see the third Hangover movie. O. Good news,
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Speaker 2: Christy didn't miss much. That movie kind of sucked.
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Speaker 3: You know what I always think about is that Joseph
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Speaker 3: Mangelo lived to see Star Wars. Motherfucker died in nineteen
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Speaker 3: seventy nine.
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Speaker 2: So the way this idea that maybe Trump's team stage this,
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Speaker 2: the way it's being covered really bothers me. Let me
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Speaker 2: just read one of the quotes. We'll link to an
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Speaker 2: article on the Washington Post about the theories that have
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Speaker 2: popped up about this being staged. And here's a quote
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Speaker 2: from Mike Roth's child, who apparently wrote a book about QAnon.
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Speaker 2: That's bold. Imagine still getting into the conspiracy biz with
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Speaker 2: a last name like Roth's child.
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Speaker 3: Maybe it's one of these things like where if you
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Speaker 3: run for election as a Kennedy, you just get five
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Speaker 3: percent of the vote no matter what, because people like
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Speaker 3: that guy.
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Speaker 2: Could be This is his quote about people claiming this
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Speaker 2: was staged. It's coming from major leftist and liberal resistance
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Speaker 2: influencers who believe that Trump is so devious that he'd
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Speaker 2: fake his own assassination attempt in order to help his campaign.
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Speaker 2: End quote. Motherfucker, he is that devious. We know that
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Speaker 2: about Trump. Of course he would do that shit. That's
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Speaker 2: not a fucking defense. Oh you think Trump's a bad guy? Now, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I have forever, forever and ever and ever.
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Speaker 3: He probably when he got hit in the ear and
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Speaker 3: when he was fell to the ground and had that
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Speaker 3: moment where he realized that this was going to be
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Speaker 3: incredible content for his campaign, he probably for a second thought, Man,
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Speaker 3: I should have thought of this. This is good, this
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Speaker 3: is clean, man, this works.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I don't buy that argument at all that, Oh Trump's
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Speaker 2: too good of a guy.
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Speaker 3: No, seeing any politician is too moral to do any
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Speaker 3: publicity stunt is foolish at.
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Speaker 2: Least any president, because the things presidents have to sign
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Speaker 2: off on, it requires at least a little bit of
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Speaker 2: a morality, at the very.
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Speaker 3: Least at a degree of emotional detachment. You know, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: to go fucking pose for photos at an Easter egg
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Speaker 3: hunt in the Rose Garden, Well you're just like signed
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Speaker 3: a piece of paper to fucking blow up seven Umini
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Speaker 3: weddings or whatever it is on that day, you know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And we're talking about a guy who is campaigning
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Speaker 2: on a platform of immigrants are poisoning the blood of
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Speaker 2: this country, and so we need to round up ten
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Speaker 2: million of them and send them to camps. That's the
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Speaker 2: actual plan.
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Speaker 4: Beautiful camps, very nice camps, barracks and Latrians, the finest Latrins.
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Speaker 6: I don't do Trump.
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Speaker 3: That would be funny if the deportation camps were all
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Speaker 3: really gaudy. Have you ever stated at Trump Hotel everything
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Speaker 3: looks nice, but it's like your stupidest neighbor's idea of nice,
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Speaker 3: like forty five year old fucking white guy's idea of wow,
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Speaker 3: it's shiny and gold.
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Speaker 2: It actually wouldn't surprise me because that would just give
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Speaker 2: right wingers another reason to be like, see, it's fine.
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Speaker 2: They're living better than I am.
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Speaker 3: They love having the excrement hosed off of them in
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Speaker 3: the yard before exercise.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think this was staged. But I
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Speaker 2: also understand why people would ask. And I don't think
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Speaker 2: asking that question makes you a conspiracy theorist. You just
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Speaker 2: have a healthy skepticism of the government.
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Speaker 3: No, And I also don't think it's insane to ask, Okay,
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Speaker 3: why did this crack team of super soldiers fucked this
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Speaker 3: up so god damn badly? You know, if that's the
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Speaker 3: one thing we're supposed to be able to do correctly
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Speaker 3: as a country is engage in war, why did our
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Speaker 3: literal ss private fucking war you why were they all
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Speaker 3: out to lunch? You know, there's tons of videos of
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Speaker 3: that sniper having a fucking shot on that guy for
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Speaker 3: a few seconds and just kind of going, oh, weird,
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Speaker 3: I wonder what that dude is doing laying down on
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Speaker 3: that roof over there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think part of it also is that
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Speaker 2: like too soon kind of idea, because we get to
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Speaker 2: ask all the questions we want about JFK people saying
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Speaker 2: it's too soon.
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Speaker 3: He wasn't even fighting for his life or anything. He
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Speaker 3: was clearly in no grave, fucking physical danger by the
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Speaker 3: time the fucking shooter had been killed and he was
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Speaker 3: moved off stage.
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Speaker 6: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: He could have an ear infection right now and you're
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Speaker 3: asking these questions. Yeah, they could be putting hydrogen peroxide
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Speaker 3: on his ear. That would really sting.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And as far as the secret service thing, people
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Speaker 2: are kind of asking the question, and we'll get to
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Speaker 2: it near the end of the episode. But I brought
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Speaker 2: up JFK because one of the weird details of that
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Speaker 2: assassination is the way his security changed that day and
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Speaker 2: the fact that he was traveling along this route that
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Speaker 2: had all these windows that people could have been in
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Speaker 2: and those weren't secured and no one checked that, and
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Speaker 2: people are like, why why would that be the case?
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Speaker 2: Or another great example is Malcolm X. The day Malcolm
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Speaker 2: X was assassinated, there were only two security guards at
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Speaker 2: the front door of that venue, and it was a
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Speaker 2: venue where black activists regularly gathered, so normally, as you'd expect,
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Speaker 2: there was a ton of police. Yeah, right, correct, There
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Speaker 2: were normally police on the roof, there were police at
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Speaker 2: all the entrances and exits, and for some reason that
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Speaker 2: day they were like, Ah, we don't need it, just
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Speaker 2: put a couple of guards at the door.
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Speaker 3: These black panthers are always well behaved. They took up
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Speaker 3: after themselves. I fell as we can just let them
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Speaker 3: have a good time.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I understand if people are questioning why the Secret Service
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Speaker 2: wasn't up on that roof, because it seems like such
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Speaker 2: an obvious place to be. If Trump is four hundred
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Speaker 2: feet away, you obviously put someone up there. And the
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Speaker 2: fact that they miss that I think is suspicious.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, a guy with the slingshot could have hit him
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Speaker 3: if he was lucky.
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Speaker 2: I really wish people on the left would take this
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Speaker 2: as a moment to be like, oh, yeah, shit, maybe
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Speaker 2: the government does do stuff.
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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Because it's a thing they need to fucking understand. A
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Speaker 2: lot of people on the left need to understand questioning
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Speaker 2: the government does not make you a conspiracy theorist.
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Speaker 3: Well, and just the idea that you can at this
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Speaker 3: point through declassified information if you only take the government's
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Speaker 3: word for what they've done and what they've admitted to,
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Speaker 3: like how many South American coups did? Does there have
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Speaker 3: to be before you some point have the idea like, oh,
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Speaker 3: perhaps they would be even so amorl as to do
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Speaker 3: something like that domestically. Is that absolutely not? Those must
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Speaker 3: just be practiced for the fucking shit they do here.
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Speaker 3: It's like a comedian like I go down to Bolivia
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Speaker 3: and I try out some of my new psyops and
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Speaker 3: the misinformation techniques, and then I bring that shit over
19:08
Speaker 3: to North Dakota once I know it's really cooking.
19:10
Speaker 2: One of the things I also hate is people are
19:13
Speaker 2: being forced to like immediately apologize for having questioned if
19:18
Speaker 2: this was staged or not. I feel like that's kind
19:21
Speaker 2: of a natural response. The American government shouldn't stage so
19:25
Speaker 2: much shit if they don't want people to ask if
19:26
Speaker 2: stuff is staged.
19:27
Speaker 3: Ah, So I'm kind of anti dumb shaming. You can't
19:30
Speaker 3: really judge anybody for what their natural response is to something,
19:34
Speaker 3: and you shouldn't go around taking everybody so fucking seriously.
19:37
Speaker 3: I can understand there being a conversation about a degree
19:39
Speaker 3: of responsibility if you're a major news outlet or a
19:42
Speaker 3: fucking public figure or an influencer or whatever. It's like comedy,
19:45
Speaker 3: you can't help what you laugh at, you know, if
19:47
Speaker 3: fucking terrible offensive jokes make you laugh. That's an involuntary response.
19:52
Speaker 3: I'm a skeptical person. When I saw the thing happen,
19:55
Speaker 3: I thought, well, Okay, sure people suck at their jobs,
19:57
Speaker 3: but you would think the Secret Service would be kind
20:00
Speaker 3: of good, you know, you think there would be a
20:02
Speaker 3: degree making them wake up in the morning and do
20:04
Speaker 3: push ups and jumping Jackson being on the ball.
20:06
Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing that I think makes me lean toward
20:10
Speaker 2: this not being staged, and also the government not actively
20:15
Speaker 2: trying to assassinate Trump is I don't think the government
20:18
Speaker 2: would have missed for one thing. And also if it
20:23
Speaker 2: was staged, they murdered a guy. They just shot a guy,
20:26
Speaker 2: which I feel like that could not have possibly been
20:29
Speaker 2: part of a plan. I mean, it's convincing it definitely
20:33
Speaker 2: if it was staged, that would sell it better. But
20:36
Speaker 2: I don't know.
20:37
Speaker 3: They probably wouldn't have wanted that. If this was just
20:40
Speaker 3: a regular assassination coup, that would have made a messy
20:43
Speaker 3: ering no matter what the goal was. I have seen
20:45
Speaker 3: some of it, but you know, where's the MK ultra
20:47
Speaker 3: talk and all of this I can buy on some
20:49
Speaker 3: level because I was a weird fucking kid that didn't
20:51
Speaker 3: have social media, like I can sort of see being
20:53
Speaker 3: a twenty year old that doesn't have much of an
20:55
Speaker 3: online presence. People are saying that's weird and the ad
20:57
Speaker 3: is weird, but I don't know, there's nothing about this guy.
21:00
Speaker 2: Yeah. That was actually my only tweet about.
21:04
Speaker 6: Yeah was this because to say the thing, and I was.
21:08
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I feel like that's a valid question because
21:12
Speaker 2: people don't give MK ultra enough credit. I don't know
21:16
Speaker 2: if that's the right way to.
21:17
Speaker 6: Put it went on for a long time, you know.
21:20
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when people are like, oh, but nothing came
21:22
Speaker 2: of it, Well, one, how do you know the government
21:25
Speaker 2: isn't going to issue a press release and be like,
21:27
Speaker 2: you're not going to believe this, But we learned how
21:29
Speaker 2: to hypnotize people into carrying more political assassinations. That's not
21:33
Speaker 2: going to happen. But also, you're right, it carried on
21:37
Speaker 2: for decades, and it started in like the forties. By
21:41
Speaker 2: the sixties, all of a sudden, the entire progressive.
21:44
Speaker 3: Vanity, Kennedy, King X, you know, they.
21:48
Speaker 2: Just start getting gunned down and it gets weirder and
21:52
Speaker 2: weirder until you get to Reagan. Reagan and John Lennon
21:56
Speaker 2: both are the most MK ultra shit possible and san Also.
22:02
Speaker 3: I was about to say, once you get to a
22:04
Speaker 3: guy who has two names that are the same name,
22:06
Speaker 3: are you even trying anymore? The best argument for MK
22:09
Speaker 3: ulture being bullshit is just that the government spends a
22:12
Speaker 3: ton of money on stupid shit for no reason. Yeah,
22:14
Speaker 3: of course they would fund the program designed to teach
22:16
Speaker 3: people how to shoot Superman lasers out of their eyes
22:18
Speaker 3: for seventeen years.
22:20
Speaker 2: Have I ever told you about the RFK assassination souvenir
22:26
Speaker 2: program that I bought at the Reagan Library. No, I'll
22:30
Speaker 2: send you the article after we're done recording. I wrote
22:33
Speaker 2: about it on my substack. But I went to the
22:35
Speaker 2: Reagan Library to see the FBI exhibit because I love
22:39
Speaker 2: crime and I also love a gift shop. So I
22:44
Speaker 2: was like, all right, I'm going to find something in
22:46
Speaker 2: this gift shop that doesn't.
22:47
Speaker 3: When when I went to the LBG Museum, I got
22:50
Speaker 3: a postcard of Jackie Kennedy scooping up his brains, because
22:54
Speaker 3: I was like, why the fuck would you make this
22:57
Speaker 3: a postcard?
22:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's crazy. And I had the same thought
23:02
Speaker 2: about what I found because the only two things I
23:05
Speaker 2: found that didn't have Reagan's name on it were just
23:08
Speaker 2: a regular ass bag of jelly belly jelly beans, which delicious,
23:12
Speaker 2: but I can get those at Albertson's.
23:14
Speaker 6: No your value.
23:16
Speaker 2: And then also it even had a certificate of authenticity.
23:20
Speaker 2: It was a basically it is a program about the
23:24
Speaker 2: assassination of Bobby Kennedy. And there's so much that's weird
23:28
Speaker 2: about it. One, it came out the following morning, like
23:31
Speaker 2: right after he got shot. Someone was ready to print
23:35
Speaker 2: this thing. And not only that, but it has like
23:40
Speaker 2: the bullet trajectories that Kennedy was hit by, and all
23:44
Speaker 2: of this super detailed information. And it was published by
23:49
Speaker 2: this publisher that had only published one thing previously, and
23:53
Speaker 2: they got sued for copyright infringement over it.
23:57
Speaker 6: That is so fucking strange.
23:59
Speaker 3: Stranger it's still the fact that they're just like selling
24:01
Speaker 3: it in a gift shop.
24:03
Speaker 2: Well not just that, but also as you flip through it,
24:07
Speaker 2: at one point there is in the middle a right
24:11
Speaker 2: up about the Kennedy family and it all seems perfectly
24:15
Speaker 2: normal and neutral, and then you get to the end
24:18
Speaker 2: there's a full page picture of just Ted Kennedy's head
24:23
Speaker 2: and it says there's one son left in huge line.
24:28
Speaker 2: And then the very next article in that program is
24:34
Speaker 2: one about how crazy it is that you can still
24:36
Speaker 2: buy guns through the mail and how if we don't
24:40
Speaker 2: put an end to this, someone's going to be the
24:42
Speaker 2: next person to shoot a Kennedy. And that is immediately
24:45
Speaker 2: after the page that says there's one son left. Next
24:49
Speaker 2: there's an article that's like, also the person to take
24:52
Speaker 2: that one out. Here's how you do it.
24:53
Speaker 3: Perfect, to like rip it out and use this target
24:55
Speaker 3: practice in your backyard. A big fat picture of Ted
24:58
Speaker 3: Kennedy's head.
24:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like an mk ultra remnant or something.
25:03
Speaker 2: There's no valid reason for it to have existed.
25:07
Speaker 3: I guess there's some sort of psychological idea of if
25:11
Speaker 3: people can hold in their hands a piece of print
25:13
Speaker 3: media the day after this happened, that totally dispels any
25:19
Speaker 3: sort of questions or fucking rumors that they might be
25:22
Speaker 3: subject to believing or subscribing to, then I guess, yeah,
25:25
Speaker 3: it kind of doesn't make sense. But it's also like
25:27
Speaker 3: sort of telling on yourself, you know.
25:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the fact that they had it ready to
25:33
Speaker 2: go that quick. Who wrote the article about the Kennedys.
25:36
Speaker 2: They just wrote that in a night.
25:38
Speaker 6: Did you break this story?
25:39
Speaker 3: Is this just like an ace of Base being a
25:42
Speaker 3: white power band? Is this an Adam Todd Brown?
25:45
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so. I wrote it because I found
25:48
Speaker 2: that thing at the Reagan Library and it's just the
25:51
Speaker 2: weirdest thing. You can still buy them on I think
25:54
Speaker 2: you can find them on Amazon or eBay.
25:56
Speaker 3: It's been fifty something years, over fifty years since that happen,
26:00
Speaker 3: and how are we still finding weird things? You think
26:03
Speaker 3: we would have found all the fucking breadcrumbs. And I'm
26:05
Speaker 3: very interested to see how he adjusts his convention speech
26:08
Speaker 3: for all of this, because this is the ultimate Rammanuel
26:11
Speaker 3: never let a good crisis go to waste situation. If
26:14
Speaker 3: he plays this really well, he could be God Emperor.
26:16
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. And that's kind of why I did that
26:21
Speaker 2: episode about the George Wallace thing, because Trump has since
26:28
Speaker 2: this shooting. I don't know if you saw this part,
26:30
Speaker 2: but he gave an interview to I think the Washington Examiner,
26:33
Speaker 2: some right wing piece of shit, and was like, Yeah,
26:37
Speaker 2: before this my RNC speech was gonna be a He
26:42
Speaker 2: called it a hum dinger that was going to be
26:44
Speaker 2: all about Biden and his policies. Very angry, and then
26:49
Speaker 2: he was like, but now I had him throw that
26:51
Speaker 2: speech out because I think this is an opportunity to
26:55
Speaker 2: unite the country. So that's why I think he's gonna
26:58
Speaker 2: take a fucking George Waller turn and become this civil
27:02
Speaker 2: rights guy. But who does it by committing genocide.
27:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, speak on the George Wallace angle you were telling
27:08
Speaker 3: me about before we started recording, because that I think
27:10
Speaker 3: is probably the pivot he's going to play. I'm interested
27:13
Speaker 3: to see how racial he makes it.
27:15
Speaker 2: The thing is, if you read his immigration plans and
27:20
Speaker 2: his policies since he was campaigning the first time, every
27:24
Speaker 2: detail about his immigration plan is centered around the idea
27:29
Speaker 2: that illegal immigration hurts black males the most and Black
27:34
Speaker 2: Americans in general the most, which that's a point people
27:39
Speaker 2: debate back and forth. That's been the focus this whole time.
27:43
Speaker 2: So at some point he's going to have to make
27:45
Speaker 2: that shift and make that appeal to not just well, no,
27:50
Speaker 2: I'm not racist, but what I'm doing is specifically going
27:53
Speaker 2: to help you. It's going to give you jobs. He's
27:56
Speaker 2: going to have to make that part of his campaign
27:58
Speaker 2: at some point because that's everything the immigration policy is
28:02
Speaker 2: built around, and George Wallace. If people are unfamiliar, I
28:06
Speaker 2: don't mean the comedian. I mean the segregationist governor from
28:10
Speaker 2: Alabama who famously stood in the doorway at the University
28:14
Speaker 2: of Alabama to keep two black students from integrating there.
28:18
Speaker 2: He got shot in nineteen seventy two while he was
28:20
Speaker 2: campaigning again as a staunch racist, and after he got shot,
28:25
Speaker 2: made this pivot and apologized to black voters, promised to
28:31
Speaker 2: make all these reforms and create jobs. And it worked.
28:35
Speaker 2: He won ninety percent of the black vote in his
28:37
Speaker 2: last election, and he held up his end of the bargain.
28:40
Speaker 2: He put black people in the governor cabinet for the
28:44
Speaker 2: first time in history, appointed women and people of color
28:47
Speaker 2: to all sorts of other jobs. He held up his
28:50
Speaker 2: end of the bargain. And this is such an opportunity
28:54
Speaker 2: for Trump to do that same thing. George Wallace also
28:58
Speaker 2: decided he was a born again Christian. When that happens,
29:01
Speaker 2: if Trump comes out as a born again Christian, this
29:03
Speaker 2: election is over. It is done.
29:07
Speaker 3: That was my first thought, is that he's going to
29:09
Speaker 3: come back and be like, I gotta thank God.
29:11
Speaker 6: It was God.
29:12
Speaker 2: It's already happening. He has in interviews said people told
29:16
Speaker 2: him it was a miracle. Vivek Ramaswami is that that
29:20
Speaker 2: guy's name? Did I nail that guy's name?
29:22
Speaker 6: Just? I think you actually did? Yeah?
29:24
Speaker 2: Crazy? He posted a thing about how God intervened on
29:28
Speaker 2: behalf of Trump and the country. So that's already the talk.
29:32
Speaker 3: That's not even the craziest thing to think when a
29:34
Speaker 3: bullet goes like a millimeter away from your fucking head,
29:37
Speaker 3: you know.
29:38
Speaker 2: Well, I brought this up on that solo podcast also,
29:41
Speaker 2: and I'll just link to the solo pod in the
29:43
Speaker 2: show notes if people want to listen to it. But
29:45
Speaker 2: we did an episode about this on the Conspiracy Pod.
29:48
Speaker 2: Evangelical Christians literally think God chose Trump. That's not hyperbole.
29:55
Speaker 2: There's movies about it. We covered a movie called the
29:58
Speaker 2: Trump Prophecy, and one of the ways Trump got elected
30:02
Speaker 2: is this guy had a vision that Trump was gonna
30:05
Speaker 2: be president. He goes to his psychiatrist about it, and
30:09
Speaker 2: instead of you know, treating him, his psychiatrist goes, oh,
30:14
Speaker 2: you should meet this woman, and he introduces her to
30:18
Speaker 2: this evangelical networker who takes this guy's vision and fucking
30:22
Speaker 2: runs with it. Sets up this daily prayer phone call
30:27
Speaker 2: that by the end of it, there's hundreds of thousands
30:30
Speaker 2: of people getting on the phone every day to pray
30:34
Speaker 2: for Donald Trump to be president. And now those motherfuckers
30:38
Speaker 2: just saw their God's chosen candidate narrowly escape death because
30:44
Speaker 2: he was looking at a billboard full of immigration statistics.
30:47
Speaker 2: What would you say if you were them?
30:50
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, for sure, Yeah.
30:52
Speaker 2: I get it. I get why they're like, man, that's
30:55
Speaker 2: a fucking miracle, because here's the thing. If that happened
30:57
Speaker 2: to me, I'd be like, yeah, I think that was
30:59
Speaker 2: a fucking me miracle.
31:00
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's nuts.
31:02
Speaker 3: At the very least, you'd be a bit more grateful
31:05
Speaker 3: or something, you know.
31:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think all the time about this time when
31:09
Speaker 2: I was at the mall when I was in high school,
31:11
Speaker 2: and I was flipping through one of those poster displays. Yeah,
31:15
Speaker 2: I was at a coach House Gifts, most.
31:17
Speaker 3: Gen x store at the mall I've ever heard, by
31:19
Speaker 3: the way, the coach House Gifts. I live off of
31:23
Speaker 3: obscure retail references, and I have no idea what the
31:26
Speaker 3: fucking coach House Gifts is.
31:28
Speaker 2: It might have just been local to my mall, which
31:31
Speaker 2: is very possible, but I was flipping through these posters
31:34
Speaker 2: and I get to the last one and I immediately
31:36
Speaker 2: looked away, and this friend who was with me noticed
31:40
Speaker 2: that one of the poster things, like the frame, it
31:43
Speaker 2: fell out of the display, and when he caught it,
31:46
Speaker 2: the corner was like an inch from my fucking eye ball.
31:51
Speaker 2: I would have been fucked up if he didn't catch
31:53
Speaker 2: that thing, and like crazy, that's got to be how
31:56
Speaker 2: Trump feels, but like ten thousand times more because I
32:00
Speaker 2: would have had a fucked up eye. Trump's head would
32:02
Speaker 2: have exploded on television.
32:04
Speaker 6: It's actually interesting.
32:04
Speaker 3: I haven't thought about the actual Trump's Like I wonder
32:07
Speaker 3: if Trump himself is actually feeling a bit more like
32:10
Speaker 3: he certainly pretends to be religious when it's advantageous to him,
32:13
Speaker 3: but I wonder if he's actually like fucking maybe I
32:15
Speaker 3: should get a spiritual advisor, you know, I mean.
32:18
Speaker 2: If nothing else. He's also this whole time been hearing
32:22
Speaker 2: people say, hey, your God's chosen candidate. And I'm sure
32:25
Speaker 2: somewhere inside Trump was like, but that's not true. That
32:29
Speaker 2: doesn't seem right at all. But now with the ego
32:33
Speaker 2: that dude has, I guarantee you he's like, listen, God
32:37
Speaker 2: has spoken, I'm your king. Now it's gonna be Trump's forever.
32:40
Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear Baron's speaking voice because I
32:42
Speaker 3: know whatever it is, it's gonna be hilarious.
32:45
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he's just gonna.
32:46
Speaker 3: Sound like some kind of a Fortnight champion, you know.
32:48
Speaker 6: Like, uh, hey, guys.
32:50
Speaker 3: I think at this point if Joe Biden was like, everybody,
32:53
Speaker 3: look under your chairs, there's a free car under there,
32:55
Speaker 3: I don't even think that would work.
32:57
Speaker 2: No, not at all.
32:58
Speaker 3: What do you think about the actual shooter? What little
33:01
Speaker 3: is trickled out about him? I've seen the video of
33:02
Speaker 3: his classmate talking about him, describing a pretty typical lone
33:06
Speaker 3: wolf type character.
33:07
Speaker 6: You know, he was kind of shy. I got made
33:09
Speaker 6: fun of it.
33:09
Speaker 3: Seemed like this kid sort of went out of his
33:11
Speaker 3: way to give him the time of day, and he
33:12
Speaker 3: kind of felt bad.
33:13
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, what was the company? He's in a commercial?
33:17
Speaker 3: A black rock commercial too. That's fucking weird. That's really
33:20
Speaker 3: fucking weird man, that he's just as it happens to
33:23
Speaker 3: be in a black rock commercial. And you have to
33:26
Speaker 3: wonder they're shooting this black rock commercial, they get all
33:28
Speaker 3: the different cute kids in this random classroom and they're like, Fuck,
33:31
Speaker 3: this guy seems really lonely. He seems really isolated. Let's
33:34
Speaker 3: put a pin in that we can use that from
33:37
Speaker 3: a sketchy porno casting guy that's like a girl in
33:39
Speaker 3: the crop top smoking a cigarette with three tattoos, just
33:42
Speaker 3: turned eighteen outside of bar. I'm like, fuck, this is
33:45
Speaker 3: go time, fourteen year old kid drawn swastika is in
33:47
Speaker 3: his notebook.
33:48
Speaker 6: Let's do it.
33:49
Speaker 2: Yeah. I am intrigued by the fact that he's a
33:52
Speaker 2: Republican or a registered Republican.
33:55
Speaker 6: Donated to the pro Biden pack.
33:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's weird.
33:59
Speaker 3: He's an unders voted.
34:02
Speaker 2: All of that is strange. I'm interested to find out
34:06
Speaker 2: if they ever come up with a motive, because it's
34:10
Speaker 2: going to really turn things on its head. If this
34:13
Speaker 2: kid is like Trump was getting a little too liberal
34:15
Speaker 2: for me, that will add a whole new dimension to
34:19
Speaker 2: this because that The Unpopular Opinion episode that's coming out
34:24
Speaker 2: next week spoiler Alert is about countries that are going
34:27
Speaker 2: through similar political shit that we are. And I was
34:30
Speaker 2: struggling to find a last story to talk about when
34:34
Speaker 2: I heard that Trump survived in assassination temp and I
34:38
Speaker 2: was like, has that happened recently anywhere. Yes, in May,
34:42
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister of Slovakia was shot five times and survived.
34:48
Speaker 3: I just can't imagine taking anything happening in Slovakia that seriously.
34:51
Speaker 3: It's like, guys, you're killing the president of Slovakia.
34:55
Speaker 6: What are we talking about here?
34:56
Speaker 3: I'm demoted from being mayor of Nike town Cares.
35:00
Speaker 2: And in that case, the same thing happened where the
35:05
Speaker 2: prime minister supporters came out and were like, this is
35:08
Speaker 2: the progressive wing and leftist insight and violence by criticizing
35:12
Speaker 2: our policies. And then it turns out the guy who
35:14
Speaker 2: shot him is super duper hard right and was just
35:18
Speaker 2: mad that this guy wasn't hard right enough for him.
35:21
Speaker 2: So yeah, so, and he was also a poet. Imagine
35:26
Speaker 2: getting taken out by poet. That's embarrassing. Damn, that's Axl
35:31
Speaker 2: Rose getting punched by Tommy Hill figure type stuff.
35:34
Speaker 6: I don't know that story.
35:35
Speaker 2: Oh that happened. Tommy Hill figure. I think moved Axel
35:39
Speaker 2: Rose's girlfriend's drink so it didn't fall off the table,
35:43
Speaker 2: and Axl Rose blew up about it and was like, oh,
35:45
Speaker 2: touch my girlfriend's drink, Tommy Hi'll figure fucking laid his
35:49
Speaker 2: ass out. It is one of my favorite stories of
35:52
Speaker 2: all time.
35:52
Speaker 3: I do hope that Axl Rose has to talk like
35:54
Speaker 3: that where he has to kind of sing everything he
35:56
Speaker 3: says like an Axl Rose song.
35:59
Speaker 1: Me.
36:00
Speaker 2: I don't know if I even have ever heard that
36:02
Speaker 2: guy talk. I don't need to.
36:03
Speaker 6: Would you want to?
36:04
Speaker 2: I don't need it.
36:05
Speaker 3: When you wrote shun no no no no no no knee, what.
36:08
Speaker 6: Were you thinking?
36:10
Speaker 2: So let's talk about another conspiracy that popped up, which
36:14
Speaker 2: is innocent people being identified as the shooter. That happens
36:18
Speaker 2: every time there's a mass shooting.
36:19
Speaker 3: Of course, the sam Hide thing goes around every time.
36:23
Speaker 3: That's always fun. There was one guy who looked like
36:26
Speaker 3: the dude and he posted a picture of himself from
36:28
Speaker 3: the angle that the shooter was at, and he's like,
36:31
Speaker 3: oh fuck, it's about to be a long week. And
36:32
Speaker 3: then pretty quickly everyone just started going another picture of
36:35
Speaker 3: the shoot like he just everyone thought.
36:37
Speaker 6: It was him.
36:37
Speaker 3: So there's like a bunch of people with legit credits
36:39
Speaker 3: in their bio with pictures of this guy on their feed,
36:42
Speaker 3: like new images of the shooter found.
36:44
Speaker 2: Yeah. In this case, an Italian sports journalist named Mark
36:48
Speaker 2: Violets ended up being named as the shooter, and he
36:53
Speaker 2: was in Italy at the time. He's also an Italian
36:57
Speaker 2: sports journalist. What motivation would he have to kill Trump?
37:01
Speaker 3: Mister Trump is disrespect for too tennis.
37:05
Speaker 6: He does are not wear a Fila track suits.
37:07
Speaker 3: I don't even know what accent I'm doing. Yeah, that
37:10
Speaker 3: is really strange. I don't even understand why they thought that.
37:14
Speaker 2: He claimed that there is and I have reason to
37:18
Speaker 2: believe him because this happened. He said there is just
37:21
Speaker 2: a group of people in his life who have been
37:24
Speaker 2: harassing him routinely over the years, and this is just
37:27
Speaker 2: one of the things they did to harass him further
37:31
Speaker 2: and it just worked, probably way better than anything else they've.
37:34
Speaker 6: Done, gang stocking or something.
37:37
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think he meant that. He's a journalist
37:39
Speaker 2: and he's presumably covering soccer if he's in Italy, And
37:44
Speaker 2: I don't know if people know that much about soccer fans,
37:47
Speaker 2: but they're bad times sometimes, especially in Italy.
37:51
Speaker 3: Well, I was with make the point of people think
37:53
Speaker 3: America's racist and then like at soccer games, when a
37:55
Speaker 3: black team comes out, they start making monkey noises and
37:58
Speaker 3: shit and throwing bananas. Shit that make you think, oh
38:00
Speaker 3: my god, I thought we were barbaric.
38:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a thing that always gave me a
38:05
Speaker 2: little comfort. Is you can get an anti Semitic chant
38:09
Speaker 2: going at a soccer match, or a racist chant going
38:13
Speaker 2: at a soccer match in Europe, pretty easy. Try that
38:16
Speaker 2: shit at Crypto dot com arena for an WNBA game.
38:21
Speaker 2: You get fucking kneecapped by security in thirty five seconds.
38:24
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe we need a pinch of wokeness, you know.
38:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, dash, Yeah, a little bit doesn't fucking hurt.
38:31
Speaker 3: We're just laughing at Italian dudes and soccer Jersey's getting
38:33
Speaker 3: the shit beaten out of him by black women in
38:35
Speaker 3: Englewood at a Clippers game.
38:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be amazing. So yeah, someone just made
38:41
Speaker 2: that shit up. There was also reports that a guy
38:43
Speaker 2: named Hank Pecker was the shooter.
38:46
Speaker 3: Is that a Bart Simpson fake name? What he calls
38:49
Speaker 3: most is lack.
38:51
Speaker 2: It is actually a fake name because there is a
38:54
Speaker 2: Twitch streamer named Hassan Piker and Hank Pecker is a
39:00
Speaker 2: character he portrays online from time to time. He role
39:04
Speaker 2: plays as a quote gun loving self proclaimed libertarian, and
39:08
Speaker 2: the entire thread that people were pointing to claiming it
39:11
Speaker 2: was from the shooter. Was a Hassan Piker thread from
39:15
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two.
39:16
Speaker 3: I'm glad some people got some cloud off this. Yeah, now,
39:19
Speaker 3: it would have been a real shame if for the
39:20
Speaker 3: fucking president was shot and nobody made their bones got
39:24
Speaker 3: some followers.
39:25
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, there's no way I wasn't gonna
39:28
Speaker 2: drum up some content over this crazy drum.
39:32
Speaker 3: It's time to drum up some content, boy, I tell you,
39:37
Speaker 3: this is a damn in pamphlet from rfk's assassination.
39:41
Speaker 2: All right, now, let's talk about one that is technically true.
39:45
Speaker 2: Democrats wanted to end Trump's secret Service protection. That's true.
39:50
Speaker 3: But yeah, I remember this.
39:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't have anything to do with this assassination. Maybe,
39:56
Speaker 2: see I say that. But also, if this was an
39:59
Speaker 2: old conspirac and I heard that the government tried to
40:02
Speaker 2: get the person's secret service protection ended, I'd be like, well,
40:06
Speaker 2: that's suspicious, isn't it.
40:07
Speaker 6: Oh?
40:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I do think that the Aukam's raiser are
40:10
Speaker 3: the stupidest, simplest explanation is probably the truest. What is
40:13
Speaker 3: the acronym that this bill stands for? It's kind of ridiculous.
40:17
Speaker 3: I guess what I'm saying. It sounds like one of
40:18
Speaker 3: these pieces of legislation people pass just so they can
40:22
Speaker 3: sort of put out a press release about proposing it,
40:24
Speaker 3: Like I'm suggesting that Donald Trump changed his name to
40:28
Speaker 3: doctor poopy Pants and he has to eat my big
40:31
Speaker 3: fat turds every Sunday. It's called the poopy Pants at
40:35
Speaker 3: you know, and it's just something you kind of like
40:37
Speaker 3: fucking do to look posture in whatever political direction is
40:41
Speaker 3: advantageous to you. But the way that they named it,
40:43
Speaker 3: it's like, Okay, this is not like a serious piece
40:45
Speaker 3: of legislation if this is your fucking name.
40:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a bill introduced back in April by
40:51
Speaker 2: a group of Democrats that would end Secret Service protection
40:54
Speaker 2: quote for any person upon sentencing following conviction for a
40:58
Speaker 2: federal or state offense that is punishable for a term
41:02
Speaker 2: of imprisonment of at least one year end quote. And yeah,
41:06
Speaker 2: the name of this bill is denying infinite security and
41:12
Speaker 2: government resources allocated toward convicted and extremely dishonorable Former Protectees Act,
41:20
Speaker 2: or if you want to shorten it, Disgraced Former Protectees Act,
41:25
Speaker 2: which I don't think that's how acronyms work. Now you're
41:29
Speaker 2: supposed to work all of the words in and he's
41:32
Speaker 2: a cheeto, you know. It's Yeah, that does feel like
41:37
Speaker 2: show up a little bit.
41:39
Speaker 3: That is kind of fucked. I'm not like a fan
41:41
Speaker 3: of the guy or anything, but it is a gigantic
41:43
Speaker 3: liability being a president of the United States and walking
41:46
Speaker 3: around and I suppose to the idea that you're supposed
41:48
Speaker 3: to get permanent fucking bodyguard protection is not totally insane
41:51
Speaker 3: to me.
41:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you strip all of the I don't
41:55
Speaker 2: know the personalities out of it, all that really is
41:59
Speaker 2: is the government imposing an additional penalty on someone for
42:04
Speaker 2: a crime that they've already gone to jail, gone to court,
42:07
Speaker 2: they've been convicted, they've been charged.
42:09
Speaker 3: It's almost like expos factor, right, isn't that when you
42:12
Speaker 3: prosecute someone for something they've already done.
42:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we talk all the time about criminal justice
42:18
Speaker 2: reform and how things need to be changed. So in
42:21
Speaker 2: that case, even if it's Trump, I'm kind of like,
42:24
Speaker 2: fuck that because it'll apply to someone who's not Trump
42:27
Speaker 2: in the future. For one thing.
42:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, just the idea that you can add further penalties
42:31
Speaker 3: to something that's already happened, you know.
42:33
Speaker 2: Yeah again. On the Solo Pod a few episodes back,
42:37
Speaker 2: I talked about how the guy who is alleged to
42:40
Speaker 2: have killed Tupac was trying to get released on bond
42:45
Speaker 2: because he has cancer and he's having to eat all
42:48
Speaker 2: these shitty processed foods and whatnot when he's in jail.
42:52
Speaker 2: And am I supposed to not want that guy to
42:56
Speaker 2: get treated fairly just because he's accused of killing Tupac,
42:59
Speaker 2: Because no, I don't care who it is. If you're
43:01
Speaker 2: in an American jail or prison, I am on the
43:05
Speaker 2: side of you should probably be treated better than you
43:08
Speaker 2: are right now?
43:09
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean what percentage of people come out
43:11
Speaker 3: of our prison system reformed in any meaningful way?
43:15
Speaker 2: Yeah? Almost Now.
43:16
Speaker 3: It's almost reminds me of a Palaes die and you
43:18
Speaker 3: know where people like fucking say they're acting like animals
43:20
Speaker 3: and it's like, well, how are you treating them because
43:22
Speaker 3: it's not like human beings.
43:23
Speaker 2: There's a documentary series on Netflix called Unlocked, a jail experiment,
43:28
Speaker 2: and it's an actual jail where they experimented with instead
43:32
Speaker 2: of locking people in their cells for twenty three hours
43:35
Speaker 2: a day, they just let everyone out for the entire day.
43:39
Speaker 2: There's no guards inside the pod. It's like the real world. Basically,
43:45
Speaker 2: it's very much when people stop being polite and start
43:48
Speaker 2: being real and it's fascinating.
43:51
Speaker 3: That does sound fascinating, And also how did that happen?
43:55
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. There's so many people who when
43:57
Speaker 2: they found out about it, started pushing back like, no,
44:00
Speaker 2: we need to be tougher on criminals. And it's like,
44:03
Speaker 2: they're already in jail. What else do you want?
44:07
Speaker 3: Let the dudes play cards?
44:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fact that they get to watch TV doesn't
44:11
Speaker 2: make them a bigger threat to you than they would
44:14
Speaker 2: have been otherwise.
44:16
Speaker 3: Well, and when these guys like re Inner Society, they've
44:18
Speaker 3: missed six years of Earth, you know, they're like, what
44:21
Speaker 3: the fuck is the cell phone?
44:22
Speaker 6: Who the fuck is Barack Obama? What is happening?
44:25
Speaker 2: So, yeah, the thing where they wanted to remove Trump's
44:27
Speaker 2: Secret Service protection, I don't know. I disagree with it.
44:30
Speaker 2: I think if you're convicted of a crime and you
44:33
Speaker 2: are sentenced accordingly, then fucking good enough. And also that
44:37
Speaker 2: is the definition of a slippery slope when we start, yeah,
44:41
Speaker 2: taking secret Service protection away for crimes obviously, but I
44:45
Speaker 2: don't know, in what world do you want fewer government
44:50
Speaker 2: agents surrounding a criminal? What sense does that? Maan, that's
44:55
Speaker 2: a good point, keep them there to fucking rein him
44:57
Speaker 2: in well.
44:58
Speaker 3: And also it's just a bad look for any country.
45:00
Speaker 3: I don't know if Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and
45:03
Speaker 3: Georgia P. W. Bush had all fucking just been shot
45:05
Speaker 3: at a trip to Wendy's or something. That's not exactly
45:08
Speaker 3: great on our resume.
45:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so let's talk about this next one. We
45:12
Speaker 2: got two left. There's one. People were asking why it
45:15
Speaker 2: took Biden so long to respond, and reporters travel with
45:19
Speaker 2: the president all the time, so that's an easy one
45:22
Speaker 2: to explain. He was at a Saturday night mass. He
45:25
Speaker 2: is at church when the shooting happened.
45:27
Speaker 6: And Saturday that mass, so there was.
45:31
Speaker 2: A little bit of a delay. But also, what the
45:34
Speaker 2: fuck did you think Biden was gonna say.
45:36
Speaker 3: Hey, foll get Biden gets up in mass, Hail Satan,
45:39
Speaker 3: my dark Lord.
45:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ieron Battery just gets on TV and it's like,
45:43
Speaker 2: we're gonna get this motherfucker. Whoa come on, Biden? Did
45:48
Speaker 2: corn Pop do it?
45:49
Speaker 3: There's that great Leicster holl it Cliff where he's like,
45:51
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do if you have another performance
45:53
Speaker 3: like you had at the debate?
45:55
Speaker 6: I'm blind I having a performance debate.
46:00
Speaker 2: Answer, Joe, good answer.
46:01
Speaker 3: Joe Biden took a long time to respond because it
46:03
Speaker 3: happened at like four pm, and he was like, fuck, dude,
46:06
Speaker 3: I'm getting tired.
46:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was eating dinner at four people. So the
46:11
Speaker 2: last conspiracy I want to talk about is the idea
46:14
Speaker 2: that Joe Biden ordered this, which is both the most
46:20
Speaker 2: and least implausible thing.
46:22
Speaker 6: I want you to trump and go pow.
46:24
Speaker 2: Pow, because I did make a joke. I think a
46:28
Speaker 2: lot of people made the joke when the Supreme Court
46:30
Speaker 2: passed that ruling that presidents have immunity, and everyone was like,
46:35
Speaker 2: so the president could just order Seal Team six to
46:38
Speaker 2: kill someone, and they were talking about Trump. But I
46:40
Speaker 2: was like, Biden's probably hearing that too, like oh.
46:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh shit, maybea.
46:47
Speaker 3: Culture bring it back. That is one of those weird
46:51
Speaker 3: extrapolative arguments where until somebody goes and just commits the
46:54
Speaker 3: war crime and does whatever, it's just a bunch of
46:57
Speaker 3: different nerds arguing about how possible it is.
47:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when that debate started. There were all these
47:04
Speaker 2: articles that were like, well, okay, that's sort of true,
47:08
Speaker 2: but also the military wouldn't approve in order like that.
47:13
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, they wouldn't.
47:16
Speaker 3: The military has never done any sketchy war crimey stuff.
47:19
Speaker 3: You know, they never flew planes full age and orange
47:21
Speaker 3: over Vietnam.
47:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, was there a gamer operating the drone that Obama
47:27
Speaker 2: killed American citizens? That was the military. The military would
47:31
Speaker 2: absolutely do it, And that seemed to be the only
47:35
Speaker 2: obstacle was they were like, no, the military wouldn't carry
47:38
Speaker 2: out in action like that.
47:40
Speaker 6: Yeah.
47:40
Speaker 3: If your whole argument is that someone in lected her
47:43
Speaker 3: military power in America is going to be too moral
47:46
Speaker 3: to do something, okay, I just kind of feel like,
47:48
Speaker 3: grow up a little bit, you know.
47:49
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I think as time goes on, things like
47:54
Speaker 2: that are going to get wrapped up in what happened
47:57
Speaker 2: to Trump, and they're going to be pointed to as
47:59
Speaker 2: son that, hey, maybe the government tried to take out Trump.
48:03
Speaker 3: Honestly, just knowing how people operate these pieces of information,
48:07
Speaker 3: the disgraced ACKed thing and the president can do whatever
48:10
Speaker 3: he wants thing, people will absolutely fucking come up with
48:13
Speaker 3: a unified field theory of Joe Biden killed Donald Trump.
48:17
Speaker 3: You know, all of these conspiracies will start to develop
48:20
Speaker 3: their narratives and whatever. And I think it's important at
48:23
Speaker 3: this point, when we're still learning new shit and shit
48:25
Speaker 3: is still coming out, to just be wary of the
48:28
Speaker 3: sub narrative that these people might be trying to inculcate
48:33
Speaker 3: in your impressionable little head while they are synthesizing these
48:37
Speaker 3: different pieces of information. A lot of times with conspiracies
48:40
Speaker 3: or with political punditry in general, you can watch somebody
48:42
Speaker 3: and I heard John Stewart say this once about Glenn Beck.
48:45
Speaker 3: He's like, I cannot argue with his facts, but I
48:47
Speaker 3: can argue with his conclusions. You know, So just because
48:50
Speaker 3: someone may have some meaningful facts presented for you, be
48:53
Speaker 3: wary of their conclusions.
48:54
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I can definitely see this going that way.
48:59
Speaker 2: And I think the thing that people are using to
49:03
Speaker 2: promote this idea that Biden ordered Trump to be assassinated.
49:07
Speaker 2: This is a good example of how with a conspiracy theory,
49:11
Speaker 2: you can't just take all of the information as a whole.
49:15
Speaker 2: You gotta dig into the details of each little individual piece.
49:20
Speaker 2: Fifteen years from now, the disgraced Act is going to
49:23
Speaker 2: look really damning when it comes to the idea that
49:26
Speaker 2: maybe the government went after Trump. But yeah, one of
49:29
Speaker 2: the things you would have to take into account even
49:31
Speaker 2: fifteen years from now is that had no fucking chance
49:36
Speaker 2: of passing the Republicans control Congress or there's not enough
49:41
Speaker 2: of a majority for it.
49:42
Speaker 6: That speck to.
49:42
Speaker 3: My point about it being a piece of vanity legislation. Yeah,
49:46
Speaker 3: you know, like the Tiny Hands Act. Every president must
49:49
Speaker 3: have hands that are at least this big to run
49:52
Speaker 3: the country.
49:52
Speaker 6: Take that, mister cheeto man.
49:55
Speaker 2: And when this is getting passed around as the government
49:58
Speaker 2: did it, thing will also point to the Supreme Court
50:01
Speaker 2: making that ruling and being like, well, president can have
50:04
Speaker 2: a rival assassinated now, and it's like, yeah, the conservative
50:08
Speaker 2: Supreme Court.
50:10
Speaker 3: I like the idea that it's turning government into a
50:12
Speaker 3: game of call of duty, a juggernaut where there's one
50:14
Speaker 3: really powerful character and then the other team has to
50:17
Speaker 3: try to get him, you know, until they can be
50:18
Speaker 3: that guy and then they have to kill everybody else.
50:20
Speaker 2: And with what's going around currently with Biden, I feel
50:23
Speaker 2: like this is another thing that people will point two
50:26
Speaker 2: years from now without bothering to get the entire context,
50:30
Speaker 2: because there is a little something to this theory that
50:35
Speaker 2: Biden ordered the assassination of Trump, in that there is
50:39
Speaker 2: an actual audio recording of Biden saying, we need to
50:44
Speaker 2: put Trump in the bull's eye. He said it on
50:46
Speaker 2: a call with donors that was not supposed to be
50:50
Speaker 2: recorded and released, but someone recorded and released it.
50:53
Speaker 3: Shout out to that guy. If you work in the government,
50:56
Speaker 3: leaks toff for be a nark.
50:57
Speaker 6: Yeah, be fun, you know.
50:58
Speaker 2: And the thing about that statement, they recorded this call
51:04
Speaker 2: and people are just focusing on the we need to
51:06
Speaker 2: put Trump in the bullseye.
51:08
Speaker 3: That was George Soros's secret key phrase to activate his
51:13
Speaker 3: underground army of in cell snipers.
51:16
Speaker 2: Right after the debate is when Biden said it. But
51:19
Speaker 2: this is the whole quote. We're done talking about the debate.
51:23
Speaker 2: It's time to put Trump in the bull's eye. We
51:25
Speaker 2: can't go another day, another day without explaining what he's doing,
51:30
Speaker 2: and we have to go after him. End quote. So
51:33
Speaker 2: he's just talking about attacking Trump's history and policies on
51:39
Speaker 2: the campaign trail.
51:40
Speaker 3: Well, the good news, Adam is I bet that every
51:42
Speaker 3: single person on the Internet is going to take that
51:44
Speaker 3: quote in the complete context.
51:46
Speaker 6: That it was set originally.
51:47
Speaker 3: Absolutely, if there's the one thing I know about X
51:50
Speaker 3: dot Com.
51:51
Speaker 2: And like, I get that Biden seems to be slipping
51:55
Speaker 2: a little mentally, but I don't think he's so Yeah,
52:00
Speaker 2: I don't think he's so bad off that he would
52:02
Speaker 2: just admit that he's going to have Trump killed on
52:05
Speaker 2: a phone call with donors. That would be a bold
52:08
Speaker 2: step in that plan, I would argue.
52:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a number of relatives that are senile
52:14
Speaker 3: and very sad to watch someone lose their mental tackle. Yeah,
52:17
Speaker 3: I sort of feel that, you know, watching this process unfold,
52:20
Speaker 3: I have an ability to kind of extrapolate the magnitudes
52:23
Speaker 3: of his brain farts.
52:25
Speaker 5: And I think that even Joe Biden would know if
52:28
Speaker 5: he hadn't see a secret assassination to tempt like, okay,
52:32
Speaker 5: keep that one close to the fucking sweater vest, Joe.
52:36
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so I think that's our episode. Do we
52:40
Speaker 2: have any final thoughts other than we are probably fucked
52:44
Speaker 2: as a nation. I think most people get that part.
52:47
Speaker 6: Yeah.
52:47
Speaker 3: I guess just back to what I said earlier about
52:50
Speaker 3: you know, and be wary of the conclusions people draw
52:52
Speaker 3: from the information that's out there.
52:54
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, you know, I don't know a lot of
52:57
Speaker 6: times you can you.
52:58
Speaker 3: See something that can like it's fucking really interesting and
53:00
Speaker 3: compelling for like three days until you find out something
53:03
Speaker 3: else and you're like, oh, it's jumps, all booz all bullshit.
53:05
Speaker 5: You know.
53:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a good place to end. Connor,
53:08
Speaker 2: thank you so much for doing the pod. I appreciate it. Now, Uh,
53:12
Speaker 2: what do we have to plug before we get out
53:14
Speaker 2: of here? Adam Todd Brown dot substack dot com. You
53:16
Speaker 2: can also get my solo podcast there or at Adam
53:19
Speaker 2: Todd Brown Comedy on YouTube. That's all I got. What
53:22
Speaker 2: do you got to plug?
53:23
Speaker 6: Oh?
53:23
Speaker 3: Boy, just put out seven comedy albums on streaming sites,
53:27
Speaker 3: you know, Apple Music, Spotify, all that stuff. You can
53:29
Speaker 3: watch them on my YouTube channel and also my one
53:32
Speaker 3: hour special jokes about fucking is on my YouTube channel
53:35
Speaker 3: Connor expat and on YouTube jokes about fucking what's.
53:38
Speaker 2: That title again?
53:39
Speaker 3: Jokes about fucking got it?
53:42
Speaker 2: It's writing it down And I think that's it. Let's
53:45
Speaker 2: get the fuck out of here, Connor say goodbye bye,
53:49
Speaker 2: goodbye everybody.
53:49
Speaker 7: We love you.
53:55
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