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OpenClaw for iOS + Supercut · Business Brain – The Entrepreneurs’ Podcast

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  Dave Hamilton: Business Brain, episode 767
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  Dave Hamilton: for Casual Friday I, July 3rd, National Independent Beer Run Day, 2026.
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  Dave Hamilton: I know. Talk about the charmed life. Yeah, man.
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  Dave Hamilton: Welcome to Business Brain, everybody. Thanks for listening. We are the show
• 0:19
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  Dave Hamilton: We crunch them, we dissect them, we use them to tune our business brains so
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  Dave Hamilton: that we can each keep on living that charmed life, and we do it twice a week.
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  Dave Hamilton: We'll talk more about both of those in a little bit. For now,
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  Dave Hamilton: here in Durham, New Hampshire, as usual, I'm Dave Hamilton.
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  Shannon Jean: And here in Northern California, I'm Shannon Jean. How you doing?
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  Shannon Jean: I'm in low data mode, Dave. That's why we have no video today.
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  Dave Hamilton: No video. That's right. No video this week because of low data mode.
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  Dave Hamilton: But your internet delays actually allowed us to sneak an extra topic into the show that,
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  Dave Hamilton: we would have been done recording before the news that Anthropic had released
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  Dave Hamilton: Sonnet 5 for Claude had come out. Oh.
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  Dave Hamilton: I figured you probably missed it because you've been fighting with your internet
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  Dave Hamilton: connection for the last hour. Yeah. Oh. So go ahead.
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  Shannon Jean: Is this a watered-down version of Fable?
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  Dave Hamilton: No, no. Sonnet is kind of, you know, if we take Fable out of the equation for
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  Dave Hamilton: just a second, Claude, Anthropic, and Claude has had essentially three families of models.
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  Dave Hamilton: There's low, medium, and high, which are named Haiku, Sonnet, and Opus, right?
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  Dave Hamilton: Fable then sort of sits on top of that and is the gateway to mythos and all
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  Dave Hamilton: that stuff, which is, at least at the moment, we're recording still on hold for people like us.
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  Dave Hamilton: So Sonnet's this middle-of-the-road one. They've generally said that we should
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  Dave Hamilton: be using Sonnet for our day-to-day stuff so that we're not burning tokens using
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  Dave Hamilton: Opus and use Opus for the good stuff.
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  Dave Hamilton: However, Sonnet hasn't been as good as it could be.
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  Dave Hamilton: And now sonnet 5 is um,
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  Dave Hamilton: is really the agentic focused release that improves all the multi-step step
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  Dave Hamilton: tool use for things like coding and automation and claude co-work so,
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  Dave Hamilton: i i've been living i tried living with sonnet 4.6 or whatever it was for a little
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  Dave Hamilton: while and i had to go back to opus so i was like no i can't do this so i did
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  Dave Hamilton: some a little bit of experimenting while you were fighting with your internet connection
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  Dave Hamilton: and so far i think i will default to sonnet 5 for things and then ratchet up
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  Dave Hamilton: to opus when there's some high stakes work or or whatever it is but,
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  Dave Hamilton: uh you it burns less tokens and for,
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  Dave Hamilton: the they reset everybody's um usage and for the until august 31st they've got,
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  Dave Hamilton: pretty low introductory pricing if you're paying uh,
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  Dave Hamilton: by the token it's two dollars per million tokens of input and ten dollars for
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  Dave Hamilton: to per million tokens of output.
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  Dave Hamilton: Uh and it'll normally be three dollars and fifteen dollars so you know a pretty
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  Dave Hamilton: decent a pretty decent discount while we all get used to it and see how it works.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. I love it.
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  Dave Hamilton: Yeah, I love it.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah. Yep. That's good. That's good. Anything that keeps you from,
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  Shannon Jean: I mean, how often do you hit the limit?
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  Dave Hamilton: Well, when I, I had, I spent 10 days, Shannon, living in $20 a month Claude
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  Dave Hamilton: land before I ratcheted back up to $100 a month Claude land.
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  Dave Hamilton: And I hit my limit routinely because I was just using Opus willy nilly.
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  Dave Hamilton: And then it was like, all right, I need to be more thoughtful about this.
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  Dave Hamilton: And once I was, then it was like, okay, with Sonnet, and especially if I don't
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  Dave Hamilton: put it in super high context mode,
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  Dave Hamilton: Sonnet was able to do a lot of the grunt work, things like summarizing stuff,
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  Dave Hamilton: and just the standard day-to-day grind, Sonnet was fine for.
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  Dave Hamilton: When I was doing coding, it was like, ooh, no, no, no, no, no, sweet.
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  Shannon Jean: Couldn't handle it.
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  Dave Hamilton: Yeah, I mean, it was okay, but so I'm eager to try it for some,
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  Dave Hamilton: try Sonic 5 for some coding, because from the charts that Anthropic just put
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  Dave Hamilton: out, it seems like that's really going to be doable, so, in a meaningful way.
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  Shannon Jean: That's great. Yeah. That's awesome.
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  Dave Hamilton: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's good. There was something else released this week. Go ahead.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. Talk, if you're going to,
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  Shannon Jean: I think this is where you were going. Talk to, I saw this headline as well,
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  Shannon Jean: Open Claw for iOS. Is that what you're going to talk about?
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  Dave Hamilton: It was. It is. Yeah.
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  Shannon Jean: Tell me, tell me more.
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  Dave Hamilton: So, um, I've only had it for about 24 hours.
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  Dave Hamilton: Um, but I, I, I downloaded the open claw app for iPhone and was,
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  Dave Hamilton: it was fairly straightforward to wire it up to my open claw instance. Um,
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  Dave Hamilton: It's really straightforward if you're on tail scale, which I am.
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  Dave Hamilton: Tail scale is this networking protocol. It's available for free.
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  Dave Hamilton: It's a freemium thing. But for
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  Dave Hamilton: what most of us would use, we would never have to pay them a darn thing.
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  Dave Hamilton: But it essentially creates a local area network of all your devices,
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  Dave Hamilton: regardless of whether you're on a local area network together.
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  Dave Hamilton: Right. So that allows my phone to see my tail scale.
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  Dave Hamilton: My tail scale allows my phone to see my open claw instance no matter where i
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  Dave Hamilton: am now tail scale isn't something i like to run full time on my iphone because
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  Dave Hamilton: it it's like a vpn so it burns battery and things like that but it definitely works um,
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  Dave Hamilton: and it's i already had my open claw wired up to telegram so that i can talk
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  Dave Hamilton: to it from anywhere on the planet okay,
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  Dave Hamilton: and so like a lot of that work was already done for me uh.
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  Dave Hamilton: But what's nice about the first party iphone app is i get voice control with it and i also get like
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  Dave Hamilton: it can share my location with it because the app knows my location i can give
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  Dave Hamilton: the app permission to share my location with open claw if i want it to
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  Dave Hamilton: so there's there's a lot of i,
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  Dave Hamilton: i think it's more paving the way for the future and and it might be,
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  Dave Hamilton: I don't mean to say that they have feature limited it it's that I haven't built
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  Dave Hamilton: my open claw instance to do anything that would take advantage of this yet because
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  Dave Hamilton: I didn't 24 hours ago I didn't have this right so,
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  Dave Hamilton: you know like my son has his own open claw setup running.
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  Dave Hamilton: And he had it, uh, he has it start picking out his outfits for him.
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  Dave Hamilton: He spends, uh, in the summer, especially with our daughter home from Italy,
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  Dave Hamilton: he spends about half of his time here in, in Durham with us.
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  Dave Hamilton: And then half of his time at his apartment on the other side of the state.
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  Dave Hamilton: And it's because of the way his job works. He can work remotely some of the
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  Dave Hamilton: time and, you know, not all the time.
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  Shannon Jean: Right. Yeah.
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  Dave Hamilton: But he has certain clothes in certain locations. And so he was like,
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  Dave Hamilton: wouldn't it be great if his open claw agent could just, you know,
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  Dave Hamilton: Tell him what to wear. Look at the weather. Know where he is.
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  Dave Hamilton: Yeah, that's pretty cool. And then tell him what your options are for, you know, for today.
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  Dave Hamilton: And he was really excited. He's like, oh, this might mean that it could have
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  Dave Hamilton: my location. And then I don't have to tell it where I am.
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  Dave Hamilton: It just knows and it can suggest outfits for me. It's like, okay, sure.
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  Dave Hamilton: You know, so like things like that, I think it'll open the door for stuff like that going forward.
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  Dave Hamilton: And I think we are moving more and more towards having local,
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  Dave Hamilton: like the value of local models is not going down.
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  Shannon Jean: Oh, no, I think it's increasing.
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  Dave Hamilton: Oh, big time.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah. And I think people are also more comfortable with it. For sure.
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  Shannon Jean: In the sense of like privacy stuff or sharing your data.
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  Shannon Jean: And, you know, as those local models get better and better, I think they're
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  Shannon Jean: just going to be more useful for everyday stuff that, like we were talking about
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  Shannon Jean: before, different clots on it.
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  Shannon Jean: The daily grind, questions, connections, you know, projects you're working on.
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  Shannon Jean: I think it's a great development.
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  Dave Hamilton: Yeah. Oh, it is. Yeah. Yeah, it's in it. I mean, with what Apple's doing,
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  Dave Hamilton: like we're what a main part of what Apple's doing is putting local models on your iPhone.
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  Dave Hamilton: In fact, your iPhone, if it's doing Apple intelligence even today,
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  Dave Hamilton: like starting back in the fall or even before that. Yeah.
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  Dave Hamilton: You're running a local model on your iPhone. The one in iOS 25 is not a particularly
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  Dave Hamilton: good local model, but, you know, or what are we on now? We're on iOS 26. Sorry.
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  Dave Hamilton: Yeah. The one in iOS 26 isn't particularly good. The one in iOS 27, much better.
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  Dave Hamilton: Right. And I'm running the beta of that and seeing some of the benefits of that.
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  Dave Hamilton: But a lot of that is local models. So, yeah, we're definitely heading down that
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  Dave Hamilton: path, which I like. I think it's great. I do, too. Yeah. It's really good.
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  Shannon Jean: I feel good about it.
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  Dave Hamilton: All right, Shannon. In the pre-show here, we were talking about a couple of
• 12:59
  Dave Hamilton: things. You mentioned a tool that I hadn't heard of before, this Supercut thing.
• 13:05
  Shannon Jean: Yeah. So I've talked about Loom on the show before. Yep, for sure. And the value of...
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  Shannon Jean: Screen recordings to, one, make SOPs and share instructions with your team is
• 13:22
  Shannon Jean: incredible. And that's how I started using it.
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  Shannon Jean: But then I started using Loom for tutorials and for sharing things.
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  Shannon Jean: And then I started using it to reply to emails because if it was a long,
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  Shannon Jean: complex, I seem to be surrounded by a lot of people that if you put more than
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  Shannon Jean: one topic in an email, it doesn't quite work very good. Yes, I guess, for sure.
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  Shannon Jean: So I started recording looms and go, oh, hey, I appreciate it,
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  Shannon Jean: yada, yada, yada. We do this kind of thing. It was really great.
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  Shannon Jean: Then one of the folks on my team recommended Supercut, and that's at supercut.ai.
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  Shannon Jean: It's another screen recording app.
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  Shannon Jean: I would share my screen with you, but I'm on low data mode, and it's not going to work.
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  Dave Hamilton: There's no video version of this episode, so it wouldn't go anywhere anyway.
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  Shannon Jean: Exactly, exactly. So the beauty of this app, one of the things I like is it
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  Shannon Jean: allows you, this was what got me into it, and it sounds very simple, but it's not.
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  Shannon Jean: It allows you to reposition and change the shape of your head as you're talking
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  Shannon Jean: with the screen behind you.
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  Shannon Jean: And that doesn't sound like a lot, but it is. Because sometimes when you're
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  Shannon Jean: recording, being in the top or the lower right is just not as good.
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  Dave Hamilton: It's the wrong spot. Yeah.
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  Shannon Jean: It's the wrong spot. So Supercut, you can move it around everywhere.
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  Shannon Jean: The other thing I really like is it allows you just to record.
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  Shannon Jean: You can choose. I'm going to just record my face. I'm going to record this window.
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  Shannon Jean: I'm going to do the whole desktop.
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  Shannon Jean: It's very flexible. And finally, what really sold me is their AI editor is very, very good. And
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  Shannon Jean: One of the ways that it really stands out to me is that as you create this screen
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  Shannon Jean: recording and your head's in the corner or wherever you're going to put it,
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  Shannon Jean: but with the Supercut AI, it changes the viewpoint.
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  Shannon Jean: When it can tell there's like a lull in what you're doing, show your full face,
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  Shannon Jean: full screen, and then it'll change back to the screen recording.
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  Shannon Jean: And then it'll bring it up again in a few minutes. So it keeps the interest of the viewer.
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  Dave Hamilton: I was going to say, it's built to be that, I mean, I was going to say conversational,
• 15:38
  Dave Hamilton: one-sidedly conversational, but still engaging maybe is a better way.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah, and I really like it, and it allows you to, the editor is very easy to use in a web browser.
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  Shannon Jean: They also just released uh an mcp for claude and whatever ai you want to use
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  Shannon Jean: it with so i can get into uh
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  Shannon Jean: and do other things that you know with the day with my recordings up there um
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  Shannon Jean: so i i still like loom but uh they got bought by like at lazian i think
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  Dave Hamilton: Oh is it lazian yeah yeah okay.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah and so you know their the price went up and it's about 40 bucks a month
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  Shannon Jean: now but it's not that that got me to switch. It's these other features that
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  Shannon Jean: I really like. And I just think they're scrappy.
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  Shannon Jean: It's a smaller company out of Germany, I think.
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  Shannon Jean: You ask a question and it's really quick and they help you figure stuff out.
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  Shannon Jean: So you can share it with your team. They have a thing called Stacks and you
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  Shannon Jean: just assign people to I want them to access this stack of videos and you drag
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  Shannon Jean: them in there. So it's great. It's a part of my workflow. I use it.
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  Dave Hamilton: How is it? I have to ask because I...
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  Dave Hamilton: I utterly dislike when I'm messaging with someone and they send me a voice text back.
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  Dave Hamilton: I get it. But the problem is now I have to consume this in, you know,
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  Dave Hamilton: I mean, it might not have to be real time, but it's one and a half time or something.
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  Dave Hamilton: But I have to be in an environment where I can listen and to a voice text.
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  Dave Hamilton: And certainly then now with this, I have to be able to watch.
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  Dave Hamilton: That's very different than reading an email.
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  Dave Hamilton: And yes i and i i wind up not listening to those messages like i have i have one.
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  Dave Hamilton: Person i work with in particular who just loves sending voice messages,
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  Dave Hamilton: and so it's maybe once a week that i get to,
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  Dave Hamilton: sort of consume their podcast that they've written for me you know they recorded
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  Dave Hamilton: for me and yeah yeah it it really is an imposition
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  Dave Hamilton: when i get something like that it's like we have a text conversation going here
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  Dave Hamilton: be it you know via text message or email or whatever and then suddenly it's
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  Dave Hamilton: like hey i've decided to move this to a you know an audio thing,
• 17:53
  Dave Hamilton: and it's like oh yeah like i i guess i guess what i'm asking or what i'm what
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  Dave Hamilton: i'm saying here is this might actually,
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  Dave Hamilton: not serve the purpose that you wanted it to serve because so right because you
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  Dave Hamilton: know you said people don't read emails that or don't,
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  Dave Hamilton: ingest emails that have more than one topic in them and i i agree with that
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  Dave Hamilton: uh but will people ingest these even less.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah so i've had
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  Shannon Jean: uh well first i've had
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  Shannon Jean: It's not, you can't use it for everyone, right? And everything.
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  Shannon Jean: But there are times where I have sent a response and it's just a link.
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  Shannon Jean: It's not like I'm sending them this thing. They can just, and I tell them,
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  Shannon Jean: hey, this was a little bit more complicated. So I just wanted to record this
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  Shannon Jean: and walk you through this or present this thing this way.
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  Shannon Jean: So I just give them the link so they can use it on their time, on their terms.
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  Shannon Jean: It automatically creates captions, so they don't have to be able to listen out loud.
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  Shannon Jean: They can just, you know, follow along. And I probably, thinking about it,
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  Shannon Jean: I probably use it in Slack more than I even do in email, where somebody will
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  Shannon Jean: ask a question or raise a topic
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  Shannon Jean: and I'll create the thing. So I think it's definitely situational.
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  Shannon Jean: Yes. You don't want to overly complicate things if you can answer something quickly.
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  Shannon Jean: Don't use it for this. And that's kind of, it's probably not even a tertiary use of it.
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  Shannon Jean: The main way I use it are for SOPs and for tutorials and weekly wrap-ups,
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  Shannon Jean: that kind of thing. I do it for my team each week and what we got done,
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  Shannon Jean: what worked, what didn't. I think it's pretty powerful.
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  Dave Hamilton: Yeah, I agree. I can see it just like with Loom.
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  Dave Hamilton: But there are scenarios where it is 100% the best way to do something.
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  Dave Hamilton: I guess I would caution people to don't default to it.
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  Dave Hamilton: And in the same breath, be aware of when you wind up shifting a conversation
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  Dave Hamilton: from text to audio because it could work against you, I guess.
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  Shannon Jean: Yes, I agree. I do know of a couple of people that are using it for
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  Shannon Jean: like on LinkedIn to connect with people and act surprisingly,
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  Shannon Jean: because that would annoy me, I would think, to your point, your example, surprise.
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  Shannon Jean: They come back and say they have a very high conversion rate versus just sending a text message.
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  Dave Hamilton: I can see that.
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  Shannon Jean: Yeah. So it's another one of those things to experiment with and see how it works and track it.
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  Shannon Jean: And the nice thing about Supercut is you get the data with it,
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  Shannon Jean: too. If you're just sharing the link, you get alerted.
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  Shannon Jean: Somebody watched it. They can comment right on it. So you can have a discussion
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  Shannon Jean: next to the video if you want. But I like it. It's good. It works great for me.
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  Dave Hamilton: That's good. Yeah, I'm glad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It totally makes sense.
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  Dave Hamilton: And I like some of the features that you were describing there. That's good. Yeah.
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  Shannon Jean: That's awesome.
• 21:11
  Dave Hamilton: All right. Well, we need to decide what our big takeaway from this episode is.
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  Dave Hamilton: We talked about Sonnet. We talked about Open Claw. We talked about Supercut.
• 21:23
  Dave Hamilton: We didn't really talk about any concepts, but...
• 21:26
  Dave Hamilton: But we did. Yeah, I guess we did, didn't we?
• 21:29
  Shannon Jean: We did. I think the local LLM is the big takeaway for me on this episode, because
• 21:37
  Shannon Jean: get ready to hear more and more about it because I think we're a bit ahead of
• 21:42
  Shannon Jean: the curve here, but especially once iOS 27 comes out and Apple's doing their thing,
• 21:48
  Shannon Jean: I think we're going to just hear more and more about on-device AI that keeps
• 21:52
  Shannon Jean: your privacy and all that stuff.
• 21:53
  Dave Hamilton: I agree 100%. That is the takeaway. Yep.
• 21:58
  Dave Hamilton: And that's why I like dissecting the episode together because it's easy.
• 22:02
  Dave Hamilton: You know, when it's something I'm already doing And then it's like,
• 22:05
  Dave Hamilton: oh, yeah, obviously we're here, but it's not everybody's not doing it yet. So, yeah, it's good.
• 22:10
  Dave Hamilton: Thanks for listening, everybody. Thanks for hanging out with us.
• 22:13
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• 22:20
  Dave Hamilton: your business plans of all the things that we discussed here in today's episode.
• 22:24
  Dave Hamilton: Have a great weekend and keep living that charmed life. We'll see you next week.
• 22:27
  Shannon Jean: See you.