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EP97: Ben DeLeon (Un-Shuck Yourself Podcast) · Corpus Christi Originals Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: What's going on, y'all?
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to the Corpus Curity Originals Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm your host, Estusi Ladio.
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  SPEAKER_01: Today we're talking uh with Ben De Leon, the creator of Unshuck Yourself Podcast, which is the newest addition to the uh Corpuscurity Originals Podcast Network.
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we're diving into mindset growth storytelling and how AI is changing the way we think.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, let's jump in.
• 0:20
  SPEAKER_01: What's what's going on, Ben?
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks for having me, man.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I appreciate it.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_00: First off, let me say thank you for inviting me to be part of the Corpuscurity Originals Network.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_00: That was a huge honor for me.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, honestly, like there was a lot of imposter syndrome going on, you know, thinking like, do I even deserve to be part of this conversation?
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, had to talk to with the wife about it, and she was all like, babe, you deserve to be there.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, crazy, you know.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I owe a lot to my wife, you know.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: So she's she's pushed me to do a lot of things that I probably would have not done.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, she's a good woman, she makes me a better man.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's good, man.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's good.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, shh, my wife definitely backs me up on a lot of this stuff.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_01: But like, for instance, going back to listen to episodes, I don't want to go back and listen to them.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, because I but I have to go back to clip them and stuff like that.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_01: And she's like, You're you're you're just basically your own worst critic.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and so I think sometimes we get stuck there, you know?
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and like and and I guess the creative process gets hindered because we refuse, like sometimes I refuse to go back and listen, you know what I mean?
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_01: And then stuff like that.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, so that's definitely important.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but uh, I heard your your series Unshuck Yourself on the Recycle Corn podcast, which I I listened to, I listened to it before even that it came out, and you and uh 50 states of terror, and I always look back on Spotify to see if y'all had a a new episode out and stuff like that, and I saw yours come out with the unshuck.
• 1:49
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, whoa man, this is I actually want to listen to this, you know what I mean?
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I appreciate it, man.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_00: I got a lot of good feedback on it, and and it just started as you know, I I heard from other creators just make the content that you want to listen to.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_00: And so I did.
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  SPEAKER_00: I just started, you know, there's times where I really needed this advice that I'm putting out there, and all of the all of the advice is it's it's not original to me.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, well, I could say like 98% of it is not original to me.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of it is stuff that I've heard before that I just take it and and I and I put it in one spot so people, you know, if they find my page or the the podcast or whatever, they can just go over like, oh, you know, this is good advice.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: But again, I don't take credit for any of it.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm just gathering it, you know.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_00: This go goes into the whole recycled part of you know, when it was recycled on recycled corn, is you know, this is just recycled advice, you know, very very little of it comes from me.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_00: I may modify it a bit here and there just to make it relevant to the topic at hand, but most of it is, you know, I I've gotten some some advice from you too.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean like stuff in our personal conversations.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, you know what, that's a little nugget advice I'm gonna put right there.
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, so yeah, it's interesting because it makes me think about the I guess humanity as a whole.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like you're saying, the 98% of it's already been said, you know what I mean?
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_01: So which is humans just basically recycling, like you're saying, that makes a lot of sense to me.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, like like the Bible says, there's nothing new under the sun.
• 3:22
  SPEAKER_01: Basically, the sun sees everything that we're doing, repeat, repeat, rotate, same thing over and over.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_01: Man, so this is awesome, Ben.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_01: So um, so let's what let's talk a little bit about your background, man.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um what moment in your life pushed you towards personal development?
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I would I've always been interested in like philosophy and all that.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: When I was in martial arts growing up, um, I was always drawn to the philosophical side of it, you know, starting with like Bruce Lee, of course, you know, which is a huge influence on a lot of kids.
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_00: And then when I found out that there's a whole section on like Eastern philosophy and stuff like that, Zen Buddhism, um, you know, Taoists, it just set me on a journey, you know.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember being at the library um back when we used to go to libraries and stuff, and and buying books from them um because I didn't want to give it up.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, of there was a book called Tao Ta Ching.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like it was uh I forgot I for I forgot the meaning of it, like some student I am, right?
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_00: But um it it was a book on Eastern philosophy, and I just remember like reading it and just like wow, like there's so many ways you can interpret this, so many ways that it's relevant to the situations that I'm going through.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_00: So you know, when I tell people like 13 spokes, they have no idea what I'm talking about.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure, man.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's cool.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I didn't do a lot, I still really don't do a lot of reading or even read a whole book to be, you know what I mean?
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_00: That's why they got audiobooks, man.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, audible.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure, man.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_01: I think the the I can't remember the last book I read all the way through, but yeah, there's a lot of knowledge in there, man.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_01: So if you're talking philosophy, you're talking like thought, like uh human thought throughout the ages, yeah.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's a lot of deep conversations that I've had with people that really, you know, um how can I say they like really tickle my brain, you know?
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, Rachel Caballero, we've had some really, really good conversations, you know, about what's going on in the city and stuff like that.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_00: And it turns into, you know, a philosophical side, and she is such an intelligent woman.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, I'm I'm really, you know, disappointed that she didn't make it to city council.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_00: You know, um, I voted, I did vote for her.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'm sad she wasn't given a chance because I really think she could do some good for the city.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, like I said, we've had some really good conversations, and um, she's always somebody I look forward to talking to.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um I've had conversations, you know, with with friends that don't even know we're having a deep conversation.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_00: So later on, they're like, wow, like that was a really you know, it's three hours later, and we just had like a really deep conversation, and and like, yeah, like sometimes that's how it is.
• 6:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: So I know you're I know it seems like you're very introverted like myself.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh is it is it hard to come across those conversations like that?
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how do you feel about that?
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_00: I I have my moments, you know, like I I'm an introvert with bursts of extrovertedness, but those times like like today, you know, I'm being a little more like energy energetic, whatever.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_00: But I'll tell you what, it'll take me a few days to recover, like I'm just not at that stage in my life anymore where you know I used to go out, you know, Tuesdays for karaoke nights at Cats, and then I would go out again on Thursdays, you know, at Rockets, and then first Fridays we'd be out there, and then going out for karaoke at Molly's with Scuba or you know, uh sing bar with Adrian, you know, and those times were awesome, but it's like they don't last forever.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I appreciated them for what they were at the time, but now I'm all like, you know, I I dig chilling at home with my wife and my granddaughters, and yeah, you know, those those times are are just precious to me.
• 7:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I want to make sure that I enjoy it because for a long time I wasn't a very present father to my kids, um, you know, for reasons I won't really get into, but um I'm working on reestablishing those connections and stuff, you know.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_00: And I said I I don't claim to be any better or smarter than anybody else.
• 7:35
  SPEAKER_00: I've made a lot of mistakes, and that's one of the reasons why I put the advice out there, because you know, it's the advice that I needed.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I wish that this was a resource back in the day because I would have definitely utilized it.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh yeah, yeah, I see that too.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like in myself, uh, I have a YouTube page where I was putting guitar videos out, and I and I came at it from that perspective, like, what would I want to see if I was learning the guitar?
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_01: So I learned how to put music on there, you know, as I was playing to show the notes and stuff.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's awesome.
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I started doing that, and I I I had got a decent following on YouTube just from that, and people were thankful for doing that type of stuff.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_00: So I didn't I could have used that, man, because I man, I was trying to learn uh Satriani surfing with the aliens.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_01: Holy smokes, yeah.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_01: My stuff was a little bit more elementary, it wasn't really that that difficult, and it was classical guitar.
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I'm a classical guitarist.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh that's that was my principal instrument in college.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but it's all it's all interconnected.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, like if you really stop to think about it, rock music is just classical music, just cranked up a little bit.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_01: Have you seen those videos where they play like four chords and they sing like a bunch of different songs over it?
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: Isn't that insane?
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like and what gets to me is when they're they're suing another, you know, one artist is suing another artist and they're saying, like, you stole our song, but unless it's like a very obvious thing, like how can you tell?
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that because there's only so many chords that go together, so many notes that you know make melody.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, well, it it all comes back to like okay, I think it's the Baroque era where they had the they decided to make 12 keys, right?
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_01: Because eventually, you know, you take the string, you cut it in half, you get an octave, right?
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_01: Or whatever, you cut that in half, you get a fourth, and then a fifth, and then eventually you have the 12 notes of tonality, right?
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_01: And then they like even Bach started making songs in every single key, and then every single key, there's 12 notes, you know what I mean?
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_01: So there's only so many chords you can use.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_01: That's why it's always everything sounds the same because you know you only have so many notes, right?
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so that's interesting.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, what so what inspired you to to and what's what inspired the title Unshuck Yourself podcast?
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it came from my mil from my time in the military, you know.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, one of the sayings that uh the the soldiers would say amongst themselves was you know, unfuck yourself, like get out of your own way, basically.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: Wow and so I didn't want to put that on the title of my podcast because you know I wanted to be a little more family friendly, so you know it was on recycled corn at the time, so I'm like corn shuck, it just kind of wow goes without saying.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, Yeah, let's just just call it unshuck yourself.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: But unshuck is like a like an oyster term or something like that.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um well they I mean it can be because you do shuck oysters, but I'm also looking at like corn corn husks, you know, shucking a ear of corn, um stuff like that, you know.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: So it's and then of course, you know, it's just simply it's just a play on the word, yeah, you know, the epic.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm trying not to cuss her now.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just doing a solid for my mom, like mom.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_01: Hey mom, make mom proud, right?
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_01: So uh what message do you want people to take away from your your podcast, the on Shuck Yourself Podcasts?
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_00: That it's possible to not let your situation or your circumstances define who you are, you know, just because you're come from a broken home or you are a divorcee, or you know, you're recovering, you know, user, there's nothing to stop you from creating a destiny that you want, you know, a life that you want.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, it you can do it basically for free, you know, because all the things that I've learned, sure, I paid for some books here and there, but the majority of the information online is free.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_00: And you just got to know where to look.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: And that's one of the things that I think one of the services that I think I do is I provide that information for free for people, you know, that that I went out because these are you know subjects that I'm interested in.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I go out and I do the research, I buy the book so you don't have to.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, man.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, I put out the information for free.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm not asking for anything, I'm not telling people that go sign up for my Patreon or anything.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_00: You know, eventually I would love to be able to get paid for this, but for now, I'm content with just helping people.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what I want to do because again, it goes back to what would I want if I was in my situation, you know, fresh coming off a 15-year marriage, yeah, suffering from depression, you know, the bank account doesn't look great, you know, mental health isn't great.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I gotta work on myself.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_00: So where's a good research resource to start?
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_00: And if I had this available to me from somebody else, you know, I would have been all about it.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_00: So again, I'm just trying to do my little part to make somebody's life just a little bit better.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: Have you always been like a I guess having having like a teacher uh teacher mindset?
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_00: Oh no.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: I was a selfish prick growing up.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh like I didn't I I didn't want kids because I I was very selfish.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, I want everything to be about me, I want all my paycheck to be about me, and all I talked to my doctor when I was 16 to try to get a vasectomy.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh so I wouldn't have so I would never have kids.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_00: Crazy.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, luckily he the he wouldn't do it, you know.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: He I don't want to say he even talked me out of it because he just straight up wouldn't do it.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: But now that I have my kids and I experience the type of people that they've become, I can never think about going and just making it all about me.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: So it, you know, life really does change when you have kids.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_01: So that's that's the turning point to make you decide to like want to.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, so I I just want a better life for them than than what I had.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I want them to look back on me and say, like, you know, my dad or my grandfather, whatever made a little bit of a difference in somebody's life.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: So that's that's the way I look at things, is leaving a legacy for them so they could be like, Well, my grandpa did it and he did it with all these things that were um against him.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: That maybe, you know, I can buckle down, get a degree, and go out and get a cushy job.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: So you know.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_01: So you're thinking about the future, you're thinking about not yourself.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: You it's basically selfless.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_01: I'm trying.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um I mean, I still have very selfless, course, very selfish tendencies.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I have to remind myself, like, you know, it's not about you.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I love I love one of okay.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: I love buying things for my wife.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_00: That's one of my things.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I love spoiling her.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, she she does so much, not only for me, but for um everyone around us that buying things for her and seeing her face, like you know, you've seen some of the videos I posted, some of the pictures, like, you know, I bought this for my wife.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_00: Here's her reaction.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um I love doing that stuff, I love surprising her just because like giving gifts is my love language.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_00: I I didn't really have a lot of money growing up, so we didn't really get to get a bunch of gifts.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: So now that I have a a little bit of spending cash, you know, I I I like getting her things because I'm just like I want her.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like she she struggled a lot before we met.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: So now it's like I don't want her to ever have to struggle again.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow, so yeah, you made that post earlier about the about the money post.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, was it it's it's better, it would feels good to say paid off paid off rather than brand new.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: Rather than brand new.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's so true, man.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_01: Because like you can, it's like you can feel like uh like you're beholden to the bank every every time you get paid, you're like, all this guy's you know what I mean.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_00: I don't like owing money to anybody.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: If somebody lends me five dollars, I got I get it back as soon as I can.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm just like I again, people will use that against you.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: And and I have posted about that a while back also.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's like you know, money exposes people to oh, yeah.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: I remember that one.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and you lend somebody money because they came up to you with this sob story about and then they turn it into your pro like you're the problem.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how dare you even ask me for the money back?
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, well, wait a minute, like you were in dire straits, you know, a month ago, and now like you're doing good.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like, all I want is you know, the the back what I gave you.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not asking for interest, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: Do you find it hard to like forgive forgive people?
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like saying that in maybe that instance or any other instance, it you know, say that somebody may have wronged you or hurt you in the past, and maybe you're holding on to it, and you're like, I can't, I just can't forgive them, or you're you know what I mean.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, let me give you an example.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: There, there's a situation where uh somebody was supposed to make me a um retro game device, you know, basically like um an emulator that has like 15,000, you know, of the old retro games, you know, NES, uh Sega, and all this stuff, whatever.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: I gave the guy$200, never got anything.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_02: Oh.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: And when I would ask him for it, oh well, you know, I'm I've been sick lately, and I'm like, well, what does that have to do with the I gave him a year, a year to get it back to me.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_00: And then eventually I was like, you know what?
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_00: I'm tired of holding on to this mentally.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: So I gave him one more chance.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_00: So I messaged him, I was like, Hey, it's been a year.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you said you're moving, your health issues, all this stuff.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: I see on your brother's posts, you're like, you're there, like you're alive.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: So what about getting me that?
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: You you know, either give me the money back or give me the retro device that I paid for.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_00: Never got back to me.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, you know what?
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: I put it out there, I'm public.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_00: I'm one of those people.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I will put you.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm blessed.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, I said what I said, and I was like, you know what?
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: After this, I'm done with it.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm I'm I'm letting it go, and I haven't brought it up well until now.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: But right, right, right.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I'm not gonna, you know, say who it was because again, do you hold on to it though?
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, I I I learn so okay.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: If this person was gonna come up to me again, I'd be like, no, you already screwed me once, but uh but I don't I don't if I see him around, whatever, I'm not gonna be like, oh, that you know, MFR, like I'll just be like, you know, he he did what he did.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it was a costly lesson, but it was a lesson learned, you know.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not gonna stop me from helping others, I just won't help him anymore.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right, right.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, and it's like how do you discern the next time who to trust the next time?
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: And it taints it, it taints the the the good deed for the next person, and I can see how people will, you know, want to get violent for it, you know, because they're like, You you took my money, but then you're out there with new shoes or brand new car or whatever.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: It becomes a pride thing, yeah.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_00: So it's like, well, you know, can at least pay back your debts, and but then after a while, I'm just like, you know what?
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to be that person, I don't want to hold on to that negative energy, so I'll just let it go.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: But again, it it makes me less uh eager to help the next person, and I think that's kind of sad.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, that's good stuff, man.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_01: So so you're part of so you just joined the Copstracia Podcast Network, Corpse Originals Podcast Network.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, why did that feel like the right move?
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: Well, because I mean, we're buds, first off.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah, man.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: It was it was kind of uh uh again, like I said, I I look at you as as one of the top podcasts here, you know, podcast hosts here in Corpus, you know, and I'm just like, do I belong in that conversation?
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, you know what, the fact that you even invited just tells me like, yeah, I I do belong.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, you know, we we talked about what you expected from me from doing this, um, and I was cool with it.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, you know what?
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: I think I I can fulfill my end of things, uh, and that's really all I can control.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna trust that you're gonna hold up your end of the bargain and you've gone above and beyond uh uh helping out with that.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: And again, thank you for that.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think it's something that our community needs to hear, like that what you're doing with your that podcast, which is what main reason I I brought you on, because I know coming close to a hundred episodes.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: I have to have a per I have to have a like a feel like I have to have a mission, a purpose for where it's going, the direction it's going.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: Because I started putting my thoughts on on page.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: Remember, I talked to you about writing a book and even giving you like the first draft so you can check it out.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, sorry, which I haven't given to you, sorry.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh a bunch of revisions and stuff like that.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm putting it on paper and I'm like, wow.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_01: And then I'm getting feedback from people, what they think about the podcast, what it is.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: Because I don't because starting out, like I'm like, what am I doing?
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: You know, because people just tell me I like what you're doing with your podcast, and that's sometimes that's where it ends.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, what am I doing?
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: Specifically, yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: Give me, give me, give me one thing that you're you know, that you like about it, so I can give you more of that, or tell me one thing that I'm doing that you don't like so much.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_00: And that was one of the things why I kind of put recycled corn on hiatus, was the feedback part of it.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: Was I wasn't really again, people were saying the same thing that they were to you, was just like I really like what you're doing.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Like, well, give me something else, like yeah, like yeah, good or bad.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: Tell me, tell me what I'm doing wrong, you know.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: I reached out on Facebook too.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, what do y'all think?
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and now you mentioned some stuff.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Chris Ambrose from uh Night Creature Productions mentioned something, several people, but the theme was like uh giving a voice to people that are unheard locally, and so I took that and ran with it.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, okay, so I'm giving a voice to people that are that are unheard in the city.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_01: And one one one person even told me like you're letting like the un you're giving the underdogs or you're giving them a voice.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: So I was like, okay, cool.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: I'm doing that.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: Because again, I go back to the episode that you did with uh um the people from Hype Bike.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, wow, like I didn't know all of this was going on.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like I knew there was a bike shop downtown, but I didn't know like what it was about, who who was running it, like are they local?
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: Is it a a a chain, whatever?
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I was just like, wow, like this is awesome.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_00: So I was like, okay, if if I've been looking to get an e-bike, so like if it ever happens, like, you know, these are the people that I want to go to to talk to about it to get it customized and all that because you know, I I haven't been able to find what I want locally.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but but after that, you know, service and all this stuff, I'll definitely go to them.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_00: And and that's one of the things that you're doing for this community is bringing out people that normally wouldn't have that spotlight, you know.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um I was here for the South Texas haunts, you know, like and they they do have a pretty yeah big following and all that, but it was like it was cool for me personally to be here and listen to their story because I never met Monty before.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but that story was was awesome, you know.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like him and his wife, um, they're really cool people, and I never would have met them if it wasn't for for what you're doing here.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I wouldn't even know about this studio here if it wasn't for you know for you.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_01: That's cool, man.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: Appreciate that.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, so took that and ran with it, and then deciding to do make expanded into other little short podcasts, you know, not short podcasts, but other podcasts.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: No, other podcasts in the network.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's yeah.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_01: Thinking about that, and I'm like, okay, yeah, to make to grow this thing that is corporate security originals, right?
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_01: We have other podcasters that are doing something like me, that are creatives like me, bring them under the umbrella, you know what I mean.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: Let them share their stuff, and then too, I'm just making sure that people that I pick to be part of the network, uh, they're good picks, you know what I mean?
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_01: Which and then I automatically thought of you because I was just I had like I said, I was listening to the your un your unshuck series on the recycled corn podcast.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, man, I gotta get bent on your to have the community that I'm growing, that we're growing listen to that.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I appreciate it because I have noticed that the list, the the viewers and listeners have gone up uh ever since that happened.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: So again, you know, that's all due to your work.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: I I give you more credit than I do like what I'm trying to say, because what I'm trying to say, like I said, it's all been said before.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: So cool, man.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's awesome, Ben.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: So uh so we're talking about, let's see, we got 24, man, 24 minutes in already.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, so you we so we wanted to talk about AI.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I wanted I wanted to get your thoughts because like you I've heard you ask other people.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: So what how do you feel about AI?
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_00: Is it a crutch?
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_00: Is it is it a tool, or is it something, you know, something else entirely, you know?
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_00: So spotlights on you, bro.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I'll start with uh I I use it.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um like I'll use Chat GPT, Grok, Claude, Gemini, and these are uh large language models, right?
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_01: They're that type of AI that I'm talking about.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: I also use Opus Clip for the clips.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: So that's uh another AI, I guess you can say.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um I would say don't depend on it, but but but use it.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um so it's a you you look at it as a tool.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: See, and and that's that's the way I look at it.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: You know, AI doesn't really I don't consider AI a threat.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: What I consider it is just a magnification of the user's intent.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_00: So if you intend to use it for something nefarious, then it's gonna be something nefarious.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: But if you just use it as like, you know, hey Chat GPT, uh, I want to work on an outline for a podcast.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: I want it to have these specific points.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: Can you draft something real quick uh with my opener and with my closer?
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: And uh let me see what you got.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_00: And then it'll give me an outline, I'll take that and I'll you know put my human touch to it.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_00: But I've used Chat GPT so much that it knows already my style, the kind of things that I would say, and it'll, you know, I'll use it to clean up what I already wrote.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: So like here, clean up the the punctuation, yeah.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's funny, you know, uh make it sound a little less uh mediocre.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: And you know what it gives me, uh I'll even take that, even though it's a quote unquote polished product.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: I'll take that and I'll just humanize it.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: And uh that's what I put out for the unshucked, you know, series.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, you know, this is what I want to say.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_00: You know, these are the thoughts that I have about it.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_00: You know, let's just clean it up a bit.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: What do you got?
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: And then, you know, it'll say, okay, here's what I got, and I'll take that and transfer that over to a word file and then close out Chat GPT and take that and and do my thing with that.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like uh I think of it like a uh a technology, like say say when the lights were created when light bulbs.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we're it's like that, but but in our generation, like that type of technology that came out, yeah, and like oh shoot, okay, we can use it for this, we can use it for this, and now we have lights everywhere, you know.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_01: We don't even think about the wires that are running for so many miles or even underground.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: We you know, we pass them every day and don't even know and and that's what I think.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_00: Some of the best AI tools are gonna be completely transparent, like you're not gonna know that they're there.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's very interesting to think about, too.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_01: Because you don't know, and then and then so I don't know because it seems like people think of AI as this like like artificial intelligence, which which is how they coin it, but it seems like it's it's just data, yeah, that's in one place or whatever, and it like the large language model learns like about how you how you speak and how you and it spits it back at you the way you want it to hear.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: I was listening to a comedian on the Crystal Longorias podcast, that dude talks.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, one of the comedians was saying he was talking to Chad GPT like about his his his com his comedia, his comedy or whatever, and it responded to him the way he would respond to it.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_01: So it's learning the language, your language, how you speak, and stuff like that.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's not so much like artificial intelligence movie type stuff that we think it is, you know what I mean?
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I mean, I I'm sure again, you know, if somebody was to to try to make it like that, it could be like that.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_00: But if you go in there like like I just need help, you know, coming up with a a sentence or a paragraph or whatever, like I don't see the issue with it.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like when it comes to art, that's a little bit different.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I think it can replicate styles, but it's never gonna be rep be able to replicate the human experience.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah, I mean it might come close.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_01: It might come close, but it you just can't, I mean, you can't replicate it.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like some of it looks really real, like on TikTok, some of the videos people make and stuff like that.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, my mom has been fooled completely by AI before.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: She's she's you know, like, hey, look at this.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: I I didn't even know Michael Jackson, you know, did a work or whatever, like that.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, mom, that's that's fake.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's all AI, you know, it's it's completely fake.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_00: And she's like, Well, no, no, I I saw it on on mom, like, I'm sorry, you know, like, but no, like I'm I'm telling you, like, and I'm not super computer literate, but like you just need to be able to spot the the the tells, and there's always some kind of tell.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know what?
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um I wanted to bring up if AI is gonna if AI is making us lazy or making us smarter.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: You know, do you know what I'm saying?
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: Because when I use it, I I don't think it's making it making me lazy because I still have to do work, like I still have to make I still have to think about where this is where it's going and and how to still piece things together like it's like using Opus clip.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_01: You can you can just put the video in there and just trust it to to make good clips.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: But I've done that before and some of the clips they sucked.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like cut off mid-sentence or whatever.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and so I have to until now that that's when I was doing it lazily.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: Now I have to look at it smart and figure out which clips I want to put in there.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_01: You still have to do the work.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you you you get out of it what you put into it.
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like you you you're gonna need to be more intelligent about it, which is which is weird because you're like it's supposed to be artificial, it's supposed to know, but like, yeah, you still have to train it.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like a baby, like right now.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's in its toddler years, you know, and and I think it it I think it will help people be productive quicker.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_00: And I and that's kind of what I use it for.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like if I have a uh I need to put an episode out, or I have an idea uh for something that I want to say, I'll put it in chat GPT and say, okay, this is my idea.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: Help me organize it.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_00: You know, so it'll throw out something like what do you like?
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_00: You hear some options.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh, I like this one, but let me go ahead and take that.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna put it again in a word file, and then I'm just gonna modify from there and go.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_00: But these are all ideas that I started off with.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_00: It was just like, well, what about this, or what about this?
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of like a collaborator, I guess you could say, like uh uh an assistant on steroids, yeah.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, not not like Scuba, who'd really neglecting his duties as an assistant.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know what?
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm thinking about those encyclopedias, you know what I'm saying?
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: We used to have we had a set in our house, yeah, black, black, uh, I think the Britannica or whatever.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Encyclopedia Britannica.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: But it's like you have all that in a computer, you know what I'm saying?
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: That that's how I'm seeing it.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_01: Because I would go to that, like, oh, check this out.
• 31:40
  SPEAKER_01: This is cool, you know.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: Stuff like that.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: So it I think it's definitely a tool.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I can see maybe how some because I can see how some people can look at it like, oh yeah, I can use that to make it easier on me.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_01: But you know what I mean.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_01: I I try not I I don't want to look at it like that.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_01: I want to look at it like how can it make what I'm doing better, you know, quality and stuff like that, so that when people watch it, it it's effective.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_01: Right, you know.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_00: Well, would okay, just a uh let's go f aside for a second.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I like how when you are passionate about something, you're you you change your your body language changes.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like you're like when we're talking, there's a lot of tiny, and I do it too, so I recognize the science.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm very ADA.
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you seriously, so I'll see your eyes like dotting about, you know, because you it's kind of hard for you to focus sometimes, you know.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_00: But when you're talking about stuff that you're passionate about, like when you were just talking about music, you know, a few minutes ago, yeah, you were looking directly in my eye.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's you were saying, and this is all stuff that I've that I've learned through these books that I've been reading.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, is you know how to how to see body language and and how to interpret stuff like that.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_00: And like I said, that's how and that's why I say when I love talking to people when they're passionate about something because they they change their personality changes, their their mannerisms change, the eye contact is different, and you know, um they're uh to either the way you are right now, you're kind of like in a little defensive mode right now because you're like, where is he going with this?
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: But like, like when I was when we were talking about music, you opened up, you know.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: So you're like, like, oh, I know about this.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, experience with it, I can talk without coming across, you know, like I don't know what I'm talking about.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_00: Just a little aside about that, just something I've noticed, and it's not just on on right now, there's other episodes where I've noticed you no way, like I said, you you find something that you're passionate about, and you just immediately like you change, and it's to see that because I'm just like, wow, like these things that are in the books, they really are true.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, you know, they they they really do um work, you know.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_00: I guess you could say like yeah, um that's cool.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_00: One thing I I I started doing is uh you remember the old Bugs Bunny cartoons?
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh sort of kind of, yeah.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, which ones are you talking about?
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, like remember, yeah, like like back in back in the day, like when I was okay, I was born in the black and white, the not black and white, but like Saturday morning, you know.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, so Bugs Bunny would be talking to somebody, and the guy would be saying something, and Bugs Bunny would go, like, yeah, and they go, like, yeah, and then they would continue on, right?
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_00: So I started like as an experiment, I was like, I want to see if that works.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: So my buddy was talking, and he was, you know, let's say he was talking about girls, like oh he oh, I was talking about girl Veronica, yeah, yeah, and she was, you know, whatever, and it's like holy, like this works, and so I started using that, and I kind of adapted it.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_00: So even on phone calls or through text, just put like if somebody's talking about something, just put yeah, question mark, and then watch what happens.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow, because yeah, dude, and I've been writing about that stuff too, like in this book that I'm working on.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you have to learn how to listen, right?
• 35:10
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes you have to learn how to bring people to come out to talk about what they want to talk about.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_01: So you have and I noticed that I do that in conversation, and I noticed that a lot of people just want to talk.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they want to be heard, they want to talk about themselves.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_00: Some people want to talk.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody's favorite conversation topic is themselves.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: Some of the best conversations I've had with people, and they'd be like, like, oh, who did you uh meet?
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_00: Did you really like, you know, at this mixer?
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I really like so-and-so.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like, oh, well, what do they do?
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_00: Tell me more.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what are they like?
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like, like, like, are they from town?
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like, were they born?
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: But what did y'all talk about?
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_00: Well, basically, we talked about me.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: I loved it, you know.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_01: I had I had this, I had one episode, um, and I scheduled it for an hour.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_01: It went two hours long, dude.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_01: All because like I was just letting them giving them their space, you know what I mean?
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: And it got to the point where I was like too polite to be like, all right, let's wrap it up.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_01: We gotta go.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, eventually, like, you know, if if you're not there, there there are ways to get, you know, uh, and I'm not too experienced with that because a lot of times, like, you know, um, because I I dealt with that a couple of times.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_00: Some of my early episodes were over two hours long of recycled corn, but those times we were drinking, you know.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: So that was that was gonna be the the the gimmick for recycled corn, was we were gonna get together and we're gonna have drinks, yeah.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_00: And so my my drink of choice was Devil's River uh bourbon.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_00: And so when people come over, I had a brand new bottle of Devil's River.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_00: We'd crack it open, we'd have a few drinks and see where the conversation led.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_00: And some of those episodes were two, two and a half, two and a half hours, three hours.
• 36:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I was leaving those things hung over already, you know.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like can't keep doing this.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: They even reached out to me one time, uh, and they're like they're like, Hey, we appreciate you, you know, repping us.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like, here's some stuff.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_00: They send some stuff for me in for school.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_00: That's cool.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_00: So that was awesome of them.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: I still need to get out there to uh San Antonio to go check out the distillery.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_00: So um, but yeah, um, how'd you land on bourbon?
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_01: Because they have like uh I love tequila and all that.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, because I'm not a huge tequila guy um at the time when I was I haven't drank in like two years, you know.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I uh just cause just cuz, you know.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I think before I was drinking because I was depressed, and I'm happy in my relationship right now, happy in my life, and yeah, you know, I just haven't had the need.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_00: I've been uh drinking the HEB mineral waters, yeah.
• 37:37
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, those are those are the best things are my stuff.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_01: I think we would get lime and mango.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then that now they have like strawberry and grapefruit.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_00: HE B has those little flavor drops.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I remember you mentioned that.
• 37:49
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, the the fruit punch, you put that in the lime, and it turns it into uh uh sugar-free uh fruit punch soda.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's a good idea.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, when my granddaughter's over and I crack open uh uh mineral water and put the drops in there, she comes with the straw already.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_00: No way, she'll drink half of it by herself.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_00: Man, this little girl.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, my my daughter, she doesn't like the I think because it tastes it's not like a soda, you know what I mean?
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: But I guess that could kind of make it into a yeah, it'll it'll change anything.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't feel guilty letting her do it because again, it's sugar-free, carb-free, and you know, I don't let her have it all the time.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what's it like having a new grand uh granddaughter?
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, it is so weird.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because I'm just like I I'm not even 50 yet, and I got three granddaughters.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, dude, wow.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I never thought like you could love somebody like like I would die for this baby.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like Yeah, that's cool.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_00: And and I never again because growing up I was so selfish, you know, the way I was, you know, and and I was not wow man, I was not what I would call a good father to my kids, and I'm trying to I'm trying to uh to make up for that, you know and so I'm I'm doing things better with my grandkids, and so I'm trying to be more present with them and you know be more grace, you know, graceful than I was before.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_00: So but yeah, like I said, uh who I am as a person is fundamentally different than I was back then, and I look at the things that I did back then and I'm just like I can't believe that's who I was and how I felt and the way I thought, and I'm just wow, you know, like I gotta I gotta at least try to repair these relationships.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_00: Oh wow, yeah and so I you know my my kids have all said, you know, they they've they've gotten over, you know, what they what what we went through.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um and you know, so now I can only you know go with the the the grandkids now, you know.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that that's that's my do-over, you know.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_01: Move forward.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_01: What's up, Monty Prescott on Facebook?
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_01: Hey Monty, thanks for joining.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's following the unshook, man.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate it.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh what's the funny?
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_01: So, man, that's very interesting.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_01: I I find it interesting how people can change from who they used because sometimes you see people that don't change, yeah.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_00: And then that's the sad part.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like if people peak in high school, and then like there's one guy I know, and uh Scuba knows who I'm talking about.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, okay.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_00: There's one guy that that we know that uh uh he peaked in high school, and if you see him now, all these years later, he's still talking about the way things were in high school.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, bro, like haven't you moved on?
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we've all moved on, like I get it, like you were popular back then.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: There's other things besides you know, like who you took to the dance or who you know wanted to go to the dance with you or whatever.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh man, it's like how do people get stuck there and stay there?
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_01: It is sad, man, because like some people that don't change.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_01: I I want for them to change, and sometimes it gets to a point when I want to help them so much, but it no matter how much I do it, it just don't change, you know, and it's sad because you want them to, you know.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: And that and that's one of the things when people will cancel somebody for what they posted years ago or whatever, it's like you're not giving them the opportunity to become better, you know.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like, like, yeah, maybe I I said something back in the day that doesn't align with who I am now, but doesn't mean like I'm not disgusted by what I said, and there's no way that I would make those decisions now.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_00: You know, of course, if you're still stuck in those ways, then yeah, by all means, like you know, let them be dealt with.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_00: But if you've changed, you know, like the way I have, and you look at the things that that were said and done back then, and you know, again, like I look at those things like man, I was such a crappy person back then.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_00: And like I can't imagine doing a thing, and it seems like three lifetimes ago.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm just like, I don't want to be held to those decisions, you know.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like I I would never make those decisions now, and and I just want to, you know, be a be allowed to be a better person.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_01: So the so you did you have your your son was from another previous marriage?
• 42:31
  SPEAKER_01: Because I remember I know you mentioned you had a son.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it was not not from a marriage, it was uh a a previous relationship.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, man.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, even like homes like that to where you do have a c like you and your wife been together.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_01: Was it 15 years or something you said?
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_00: Well, my ex-wife.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, okay.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_01: No, the one you're your wife, the one you're married to now?
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_00: No, we've uh we've we've been married for going on six years now.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay, okay.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_00: But we were together in high school.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_00: And funny story.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_00: She uh we were together in high school for one day.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_00: She broke up with me.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_01: What school did you go to, man?
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_00: Moody.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_00: Moody high school.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: Moody high school, bro.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's a lot of entrepreneurs coming out of the moody, man.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's very interesting.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, what you got to you either turn to drugs or you open up your own business?
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_01: You see, bro, dang well and even the even the drugs is a business, like you know what I mean.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_01: That's a business, but you still decide to do something that's true.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, when dealers started taking square and cash app and all this though, that kind of changed the game.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's great.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I assume.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_00: I assume.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_00: Do the tap swipe or whatever.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_00: They have one of those uh square things on the road.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_00: You got you got the dealer and he's telling the the the you know, henchman or whatever for lack of a better term, like, no, no, use the other card because I want the miles.
• 43:50
  SPEAKER_01: I like that video that you did about going into like Walmart and the electricity people approaching you.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_00: That was we did that the other day at um I think it was at Target.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, I'm sorry.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: It was at Walmart again.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Spectrum was there.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm there walking with uh wifey sauce.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, we we come up and she looks at me and she like gives me that side eye, you know, and I'm all like, I already know, babe.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_00: So they come by, like, hey, who's your uh um your internet provider?
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like, dude, we just switched to Spectrum.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like, really?
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and the guy gives me a fist bump, like, man, you guys are awesome, and all this.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_00: And they're like, All right, man, will you have a good night?
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_00: YouTube, bro.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like, if I see anybody, I'm sending them your way.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_00: All right, man, I appreciate that.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_00: And just walk on, and they're just you know, they they don't know.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and I feel I'm I'm sure maybe they know now.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, where's my free shirt?
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: That guy's gonna be that guy's gonna be like, I knew it.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, like said, you know, try it next time.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you see somebody from like Green Mountain, like, dude, I just switched.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know, we we we got such a good rate.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like, man, we had some guys come out like like 9 p.m., dude, knocking on the door.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was like, This is aren't you guys supposed to come during the daylight hours?
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_00: Seriously, though.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, and now that uh uh it gets dark like at six, like come on, like go go go home.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_02: Go home already, man.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_01: Ben, thanks for coming out, bro.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, practical takeaways, man.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, let's see, daily mindset habits, what listeners can apply immediately, real world tools.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_01: What's one habit everyone should start today?
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_00: Well, because of Thanksgiving, I'll say like an attitude of gratitude.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_00: And uh one thing that I got, and again, we're gonna recycle things.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, one thing that I got from this podcast, um, Chris Van Vliet, he uh runs a wrestling podcast and he talks about um gratitude.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_00: So he every day he says three things out loud that he's grateful for when he wakes up.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's a very good way to start your day is say, you know, I'm grateful that for the air in my lungs, for the people around me, for the roof over my head, uh, you know, something like that.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_00: Just saying out loud, like, I am grateful that I get to be today.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_00: And because a lot of people don't get that chance, you know, like it's it's again, you know, just being grateful for the opportunities and the situation that you're in.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_00: Because in the country that we're in, we're very fortunate.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of people take that for granted.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_00: And if you just look around and just say, you know, I'm grateful that you know, I have a wife, I'm grateful that I have a house, I'm grateful that I have a car and a job or whatever, you know.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_00: I just think the attitude of gratitude is something that if we just start there, it could be life-changing.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_01: What what's something what's like something that what's a habit or something that you can do to break old patterns?
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think it comes from like it's weird because it comes from your mind, right?
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_01: Your like your your heart or soul, whatever you want to call it.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like how does it does that create a habit?
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_01: Or does the habit change that?
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_00: It takes you, you have to do something consistently for it to become a habit.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_00: So you can if if you start uh you know shifting your mindset to where again, instead of looking at things negatively, if you look at things more positively, you can train your brain to actually start um seeing the positive things rather than negative things.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_00: And that uh leads to you know mood changes or situation changes and and stuff, and it all starts with the mindset, you know.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_01: How how how effective do you think words are?
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_01: Uh because I mean we have I guess here where we live we can f free speech, right?
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um do you think uh uh hateful words have an effect on the mind or the heart or or even good words have an effect on the mind?
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, uh to a certain extent.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_00: I mean and and you you can you you have experience with this because if you can get somebody who's talking negative about you, and if you just like let it roll off your back, then it's not gonna have any effect.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's when you take those words and you internalize them and you let them have that effect, that's when things start you know um adding up and you start getting heavy and and all that because of and I mean like emotionally, yeah, yeah.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um because you start taking on the weight of those negative thoughts and actions or emotions or whatever.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_00: But if you just like like somebody was to say, like, oh your podcast is dumb, cool.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like that's your opinion, like a lot of other people like it.
• 48:33
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm not gonna try I'm not gonna sit here and argue with you.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't like it or you think it's dumb, then yeah, it's dumb to you, but doesn't mean that I'm gonna stop doing it, or you know, or doesn't mean other people can't get something off of it, you know.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you can choose to not be around them if they're gonna continue to be like that.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_00: So towards you, again, like I said, it just starts with the mindset.
• 48:53
  SPEAKER_00: If you have a strong mindset, no matter what anybody says to you, it's you know, you're confident enough to know like this is not who the only people who have the really that effect on me are my wife and my kids.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if they were to say like like you disappointed me or I'm mad at you or whatever, that destroys me.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah you know, and but anyone else, it's like hey, I listened to your show, you weren't very good.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry about you.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like what do you want me to say?
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's like you have to and then too, you have to have a fo you have a like a mission and and a focus of what you're doing and sometimes create like when you're creative it helps introverts to come out of their show, right?
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, definitely because you have to share what you're creating.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um and some people sometimes people will hate it and then it'll make people to it'll cause people to be like, I'm not gonna create anything ever again because I hated that experience, you know what I mean?
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, that's that's uh teach stuff right there.
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_00: If you look at the people who are hating on you, you realize that a lot of them like a lot of the hate comes from the fact that they're upset with themselves.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, I see this person succeeding.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_00: Why are they succeeding?
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_00: Why is it me?
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_00: Well, did you start your own show?
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_00: Well, no, well, what's stopping you?
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_00: Well, they have all this fancy equipment.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like, well, they started off with their cell phone.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like, can you start with a cell phone?
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like you have one there, you know, uploading off of Spotify, you know, is free.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: And when you focus, it's like when you focus too, like when you focus on starting doing your thing, like you don't even care about what other people because you're so busy doing your thing, yeah, doing your thing that other people's opinions just don't matter.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's awesome, man.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: What's one thing you want listeners to focus on after this episode or any episodes that they listen to on your podcast?
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_00: That they have total control over their own you know, situation, you know, and a lot of you're sure things can be overwhelming at times, but like focus on one little thing, one little thing to to to work on, and then grow it from there.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like they say the journey of a uh the journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_00: And what's that one step gonna be for you?
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know, don't be afraid to take it.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_00: You know, yours was doing uh uh stand-up the other day.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was one step that could lead to a whole other career, you never know.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if you feel led and you feel you feel that passion, that could, you know, we could see you on the touring with Gabriel Iglesias, you know?
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_01: Man, you know, you know, when I tried it yesterday, I had to basically listen to my own advice because I was gonna I was really gonna flake out, bro.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I was uh like I was on the hook by Tina and Chris Longoria.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_01: I told them that I wanted to try it out, and they were both there, like looking at me like you know what I mean.
• 52:00
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever shut up time, bro.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's like dude, you get here's the fire, bro.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_01: You coming or not, you know what I mean?
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I gotta do it.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_01: So I did it, you know.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_01: And how did how did you feel afterwards?
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I felt I felt like relieved, I felt good.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_01: Some of the nerves were still there from from initially going on.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_01: Uh there was positive feedback from the local comedians, which mad props to the local comedians because what they do is very tough, man.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, it's hard to do what they do, and they're doing it every week, every open mic.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, mad props to them, man.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_01: But it felt good, it felt good.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and like I'm already thinking about, oh, how could I change this or that about my stage presence?
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_01: What you know what I mean?
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, once you start something, you're like, what am I gonna do next?
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: Better next.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I'm already on that road, like, okay.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_00: See, there you go, talking about what can I do passion.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I noticed I noticed uh Rose Marie Valverde says, Great topic, mindset and how to change habits or create new ones.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, thank you.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, again, like this is all stuff that I'm gonna do.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_01: Rose, she's a she's a musician out of uh Quero Texas.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's Quero Texas, yeah, yeah.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry to cut you off.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, I I have a lot of friends who are musicians.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_00: I wish I could musish musician, yeah.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, she she mentioned mindset and how to change habits or create new ones.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I said this is all just stuff that I needed, you know, um back in the day.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_00: And I just want to put it out there for someone else and you know, make it easy for them to not have to spend, you know, just like the other day we went to uh uh half-priced books and I wound up spending like over fifty dollars in some what kind what kinds of books?
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like self-help books, like yeah.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_00: I mean that that's that's a lot of what philosophy and stuff like that, you know.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um that's your that's your gem.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_00: Not not gonna lie, I bought some uh uh paranormal books too.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_00: Cool, you know, Hans Holzer um put out a series of books, and I'm I'm trying to get them all.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um I'm trying to get the whole complete Harry Potter series.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_00: No way.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um I I listen to the audiobooks at least once a year.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_00: Harry Potter?
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, dude.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_00: I I it's just a um I could say, you know, regardless of what you feel about the author, the work itself is genius.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_00: How do you compare them to Lord of the Rings?
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_00: They're just different.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_00: No, I mean like they they're they're different and they can ex they can exist you know in in the same space inside my heart, and and and they can be you know just just separate ending because there's certain times where I'm just like I'm all about you know Tolkien and what he's done and the lore and everything there, and it's like a whole universe, it's you know, like like expansive, like Star Wars.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Star Wars has all these books and everything.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_00: And do you you know, you can actually um speaking of like philosophy and stuff, you can gleam a lot of philosophy from Star Wars.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_00: You know, some of the books um from about Darth Bain actually helped me through my divorce because of the mindset that he had when it went to his training and stuff, and I'm just like pulling little gems here and there, and I'm just like, wow, like like the things that I'm I'm learning, you know, um how to be patient and stuff like that.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like it all worked out in my favor, and I learned from Star Wars of all places, you know.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_01: Man, that's that's fascinating.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_01: That's fascinating to me.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_01: Have you always been like a reader?
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_00: I I have, yeah.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_00: Uh I remember when I was in elementary, I was reading at a college level, so they're always trying to put me in in higher uh grade, you know, classes and stuff, but then I'd kind of clam up because I was so like you know, I I was real little back then, I don't know, regardless of what you know physical specimen I am now.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, dude.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_01: So you were reading at a college level at elementary?
• 55:55
  SPEAKER_01: How dude, how is that?
• 55:56
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, that it sucks because like your brain doesn't work like the other kids.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_00: So what they're you know playing sports and all this stuff, and I'm I'm trying to figure out like, okay, well, this guy runs fast.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_00: Why does he run fast?
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_00: You know, is it something about his technique?
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like, is his arms moving?
• 56:14
  SPEAKER_00: Does that have anything to do with it?
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_00: And uh and I'm like, because I'm not as fast as that guy, I want to be as fast as that guy.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm looking up books and running techniques and stuff like crazy, bro.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_00: So it's it's like I said, it sucks.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's having that that kind of brain, um, you know, but at the same time, it's cool because if I want to talk to you about, you know, let's say electric bikes, I got into that, you know, uh a couple years ago, and now I know a lot about electric bikes.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_00: But just from watching videos and reading books and articles and stuff like that.
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_01: And do you do you see it like as like you have you have an awesome brain, an imaginative brain, a brain that reads a lot of stuff.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_01: Do you feel like you have a responsibility with it to share?
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know what I'm saying?
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like how you look, how do you approach that?
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, because like you ever watch Bing Bang Theory?
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_00: No, okay, because you know, the the character in their shell, then he's always like throwing out little um, well, you know, like he'll say fun fact, and you know, and he'll throw out something, whatever.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like that because I'll be in a certain conversation or near a certain conversation, and I'll hear a word, and I'm all like, Oh, did you know about blah blah blah?
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_00: Why did I say that?
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_00: Well, because people like they're taking it back, like, dude, what are you talking about?
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_00: But do you want to share it?
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like like I know about swords.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_00: I've always been interested in swords, right?
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, the construction of them, um, why they are the way they are, you know, design, you know.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_00: I watch blacksmith classes online, I watch um, you know, videos from from uh famous makers and stuff.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_00: And so like I could tell you pretty much step by step how to make Damascus steel, even though I've never touched uh a forge.
• 57:55
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, when I talk to people about it, they're like, oh, like you, you know, you you sound like you've been making blades for years.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I've never touched a freaking but but I just watch that much um where I I know about it, you know.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_00: I've built it all up crystalline structures, and I just talked to a gentleman here in town who has a uh a museum quality collection of like 70 different uh uh blades, and I got to check them out and even handle some of them, and and holding a piece of of history that's like 400-500 years old, it's like it blows my mind.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, and I'm just like trying to take it all in as quick as I can because I know I just got a limited time with this guy, and it's again, like I said, it's cool, but at the same time, it sucks because like that kind of brain is just hungry for more, like, give me more, give me more.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_02: So yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_00: If I don't let it out, how am I gonna make room for the next thing?
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, is it easy for you to memorize stuff, like memorize stuff?
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm the same way.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_00: No, I I have like even some of the stuff I was practicing before, like I we came in here because I was like, I knew we were gonna talk about AI, so like let me write down my thoughts real quick, you know.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I was doing the same thing.
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_01: I I was like researching AI because you mentioned it, right?
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, okay, what's AI?
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_01: And then I got into like large language model, what what that is, and what types of AIs there are.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm the same way, but but I do remember certain things, right?
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_01: To where people were like, Oh, you remember that?
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, Yeah, I remember that.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_01: It looks like this, this, yeah.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_01: So it's only certain parts of my brain that wants to memorize certain things, you know?
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_00: It's strange.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_00: But my wife was like, How do you know the lyrics for this stupid song from like back in the 80s?
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you could sing it word for word, whatever, but I'm like, I don't know.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, and the tough thing for me, man, like when I was in in college, I had to memorize pieces of music.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so talk about like playing it over and over and over and over to memorize it.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_00: So let me give you an example.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like my brain, I look at it like a computer, like there's certain files, whatever.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_00: So to me, there's like a little guy at a desk going through a going through a file in my memory, and they're like, Oh, here's this, and then I'm like, okay, now I remember what I was taught.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_00: So that's kind of what I picture when I when I'm trying to remember something, yeah, is you know, the little guy in my head sitting at a desk, you know, with uh it's a very messy, it's a very messy desk, and but it's there somewhere, he just needs to find it.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man, that's awesome, man.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's awesome, man.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for we're already coming up on an hour, man.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, thanks for being here.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for being part of the the network, podcast network, corpuscus podcast network is a long name, CCO network, podcast network.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_01: Uh trying to shorten it, figure it out.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_01: Uh wow, man.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so you guys check out Ben De Leon's podcast, the Unshuck Yourself podcast, uh, on all socials.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_01: So is that so that's how we find your your podcast stuff?
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_01: Because you're on Instagram.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_01: I put you on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, Unshuck Yourself is the handle.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm mainly on on Facebook and Instagram.
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I leave you deal with all the rest of the stuff because um that's above my pay grade.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, uh, yeah, so check it out.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_01: And this I listen to it personally myself, dude.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I appreciate it, dude.
• 1:01:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like your feedback has really meant a lot.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it it's it's very it's it's very good for me.
• 1:01:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like the sound quality is amazing, dude.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I can just leave it there and leave it on reprint and just listen to it because the the quality is good.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate it.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_01: Your delivery, bro, is is really good too.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't know if it sounds like you have a script or whatever, you got you got a whole setup the way you do it, and it's it's I gotta have you over so you can check out my mystery.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely, man.
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_01: So that'd be cool.
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, which HEB?
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_01: So we're talking, we've got to talk about HEB before we go.
• 1:01:36
  SPEAKER_01: Which HEB do you shop at?
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_01: I love the one.
• 1:01:40
  SPEAKER_00: I love the big one at Saratoga.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_00: Saratoga?
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_00: And and if I really want to get fancy, I'll go to the big one in the bluff.
• 1:01:45
  SPEAKER_01: In the bluff?
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay, okay, okay.
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_00: Do you live?
• 1:01:47
  SPEAKER_00: Do you live in that area?
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, I live off of uh airline or not airline, I'm sorry, Weber and and McCardo.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay.
• 1:01:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um Weber and McGu.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_01: So you're closer to the the Weber and uh Saratoga H E B.
• 1:01:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I don't like that either.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_01: We man, I we I live I visited that one frequently in high school because we lived near there.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh now it's like going uh now I go to the one that I used to go to before like in middle school where my parents lived, Alamina.
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_00: People are very particular about their H E B and very protective of it.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_00: Don't disparage somebody's HEB because you talk bad about it, dude.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_00: You're you're running the risks.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, shout out HEB, but and thanks so much.
• 1:02:28
  SPEAKER_00: Uh is there anything you want to share before we go, Ben?
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, no, just you know, my my wife is waiting for me right now, babe.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'll be home soon.
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_00: I love you.
• 1:02:39
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you for everything you do.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I couldn't do what I do without you, so thank you.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, shout out to Wifey Sauce.
• 1:02:47
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks a lot, you guys, for joining.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_01: Stay tuned for the next couple episodes.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, next week we got the guys from uh uh Zombie King, and then we have Marcos Leal from Shattered Sun.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's gonna be good, and then we have uh Joaquin Ranghel, who's uh part of the uh he's a 501c3 like nonprofit organization.
• 1:03:06
  SPEAKER_01: Last last show I went to was called Walking to Inclusion for Kids with Like Autism.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_01: The benefits from that show came from that.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I think it's amazing what he's doing with his nonprofit.
• 1:03:16
  SPEAKER_01: But they're gonna be on next week.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_01: A lot bunch of Alex Boys out here doing their thing, man, in corpus.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's amazing to see what they're doing out here.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_01: So, anyway, so shout out to Maya back there making the show look good and produce Sound Studios.
• 1:03:28
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks a lot, you guys.
• 1:03:29
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see y'all later.