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3 Guys Before The Game - Erik Stevenson Visits (Episode 532) · 3 Guys Before The Game

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  Greetings everyone, and I mean everyone, We got a dandy for you here.
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  It's episode number five and thirty two of Three Guys Before the Game with
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  a special guest, Eric Stevenson, former Mountaineer now g leaguer, will be
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  joining us on this episode of Three Guys. But first we'll get into a
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  little basketball. West Virginia Baylor this past weekend. West Virginia UCF tomorrow West
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  Virginia women over Oklahoma knocked them off. Get into that, plus a new
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  member of Three Guys before the game. Stop. Come on, Brad,
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  We'll do this like a deposition. Mister, how would you please turn to
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  your right? Have you ever seen that man before? Oh? Wait,
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  get wrong, mind? Okay, so I don't recall seeing him. Maybe
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  sometime back in the fall, unbelievable for the Texas Tech game. I think
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  it was Kurtieval. Curtievell got in here, been gone so long? He
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  some numbers on. This's got a couple of headshakers. All right, Austin
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  Wright is our producer. The lights just flash, so hopefully we'll be on
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  for the whole show. We'll see it's a sign for the producer, Yes
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  it is. So, how are you happy? Good to have you back.
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  Seriously, it seems like you've been gone a really long time. You
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  know. It feels like you know what, because you have been gone a
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  really long time, just a week? Oh bowl you left, you go
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  down the legislature, then you didn't come back from the legislats or so for
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  us in dog years, about four and a half weeks, and we haven't
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  seen a lot of people asking it's good to be back, but you know,
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  miss but you know what, fewer and fewer, actually i'm the text
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  line, are asking anymore now. It's just hey, Bred and Tony Brad
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  and Tony Brad day like you've, as they say, out of sight,
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  out of mind. Oh yeah, so you're gonna be here for a while.
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  Yeah, well yeah, I mean I'm going to the legislature tomorrow.
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  It says here for a couple hours, so you'll be here. Will you
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  be here next Monday? Yeah? Yeah, great, I won't. We'll
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  be playing next Monday. So we're gonna do Tuesday. So I'll miss you.
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  I will mission next week's we'll take people on Tuesday. It Sunday.
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  No, I mean I'm on the rum, staying on the road. Oh
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  okay, that's a gamer. Okay, two gamer anyway. Senator Hello,
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  you were Were you at the game Saturday? I thought I saw someone look
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  just like you. Yeah, I was there, that's right. We did.
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  We talked after the game. You came down. My gosh, that
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  group the more there were more kids on the floor after the game was over
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  than there were people in the stands. Dirty. I mean there were seventy
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  seven thousand little kids. It was great. They got to go drilled.
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  They got their picture made on the coliseum floor. Yeah. And did were
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  there any shots to day? Anybody shoot free throws? They just took pictures.
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  I think they were taking shots. They got shots up, got shots
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  up. Well, of course, that's the whole key to success. You
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  just gotta get shots up. Yeah, you do that in your fun group.
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  It was good to see those folks. Great I mean fans. I
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  can't say enough about the fans. I cannot say enough. I mean,
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  there was twelve thousand listed plus attendance. It's amazing and it's just it just
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  once again, is testimony to how passionate West Virginia fans are, how badly
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  they how badly they want to win, and how much they support the team.
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  And one other thing too, is that this league helps. Okay,
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  so you're playing Baylor, You're playing a top team, a team that's going
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  to be in the top three or four seed in the NCAA tournament. You
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  got a West Virginia kid coming back home. So Brad, the opponent helps
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  too, It does, it does. But I give this this fan base,
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  I'm like Tony, I give them a lot of credit knowing the challenges
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  going into this season and still continuing to come out as you're laid into February
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  here. That's and that matters, guys, that that's going to matter moving
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  forward. Right. The support that is surrounding a program is one of the
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  most important factors if you're a coach looking at different jobs. I think that's
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  gonna matter going down the stretch. And West Virginia's fans acquitted themselves well on
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  Saturday. I thought then whether it was a little bit of an issue.
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  Sure, you know so? Yeah, absolutely. You could have made excuses
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  as to why not to go. Sure on Friday you could have said,
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  oh, it's gonna snow, let's not do it, let's not go.
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  But instead you had the women's game, which tipped off at one pm Eastern
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  and that was a great crowd. Were you there too for that one?
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  No, had a youth playoff game. I had to attend. We had
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  a big playoff game, so I had to attend. It is a result.
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  It's a three game series, not at at one. Lose Saturday lost
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  Saturday one yesterday, so you were on the verge of elimination yesterday. Yeah,
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  fought back backs against the walls. Do you do anything different strategically?
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  I can't divulge that series is still ongoing. Well, the other team probably
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  knows what you did by now. I don't know what they know, or
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  no, don't know. I'm not gonna give me any help wins the probably
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  people match probably have people listening to broadcast trying to pick up tips from them.
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  I'm not not divulging that they're watching film right now. So alright,
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  all right, all right, but this thing I got defenses to help break
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  down, all right, Neil Neil Ohs gives you like I'm not saying a
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  whole lot. I'm saying a whole lot. You don't know who's listening from
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  the other team. When the next game is I'll tell you anything. Yeah,
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  that's fine, that's fine, all right, So not the Well,
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  first off, let's do this thing in chronological order. Super shout out to
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  do the WUVU women's basketball team. They just were fantastic. What a game
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  that was, man, that was that was awesome. Came down to the
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  wire, that was a battle, that was a good old fashion just like
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  let's get it on first place against the team tied for second place, and
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  it was good. And again I think it pour tends what the future will
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  be for wv women. That's going to become the norm. That's going to
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  become the norm. Well you you would hope. But also just enjoy the
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  moment. I mean, before we start planning about the next year, Tony,
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  I mean, enjoy what's happening now now as they're having a remarkable season.
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  It was a huge win, biggest win of the year probably beating Oklahoma
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  and see how far they can go. Quinny again, big shots, elate.
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  How about Jordan Harrison ten points, nine assists, six rebounds, four
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  steals. Is that a good line? Is that making an impact? Tony?
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  We talked on Friday's preview about that game and just hit on a couple
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  topics. One of them was free throws. You know, hoppy, When
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  I look at those those analytic things, we know there's a lot of green
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  or red right, green, good, red bad that game. When you
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  look at the matchup, there was a lot of green on both sides.
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  One of the reds that showed up was Oklahoma doesn't generally get to the free
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  throw line a whole lot, so it was an area where we thought West
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  Virginia could have an advantage and get themselves to the line. It was one
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  of those how often do we say this? West Virginia made more free throws
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  than Oklahoma attempted. Western You made fourteen, Oklahoma only attempt at eleven plus
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  nine at the free throw line. That was massive. West Virginia did what
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  it does, forced twenty five turnovers, led to twenty three points off those
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  turnovers. Stop right there, think about what you just said again, with
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  all due respect to the non conference opponents. In November and December, that's
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  when you normally get twenty five turnovers, and it happens like maybe once or
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  twice, and you sit back after the game and you go FA, you
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  go like believe they turned it over twenty five times. That's the first place
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  team in the Big twelve. That's the first place team in the Big twelve
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  in the middle of February. They turned it over twenty five times. Do
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  you understand the context of that, Like, twenty five times is an absurd
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  number? That number if it was high. If the number was high,
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  it would be sixteen turnovers. And you can't you can't score when you turn
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  the ball over. You twenty five to them, twenty five to them,
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  got twenty three points off that Oklahoma only had nine. Excuse So what's that
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  voice? That voice has really been bothering you. That's a continuation, that
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  hoppy he's had that since before you left, right, that's several weeks.
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  Then, I mean, what's going on? Sound like Lewis arm Jims this
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  weekend talking loud gym sometimes takes a tall back. You scream at the girls
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  when you coach them, No only in a positive manner, like I'm coaching.
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  I'm not coaching. I'm only a consultant for this team. Are you
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  on the bench, No, you're in the stand? Yeah? Absolutely,
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  but you you do analytics, simply consult when during games? Uh can divorce
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  could be a rule violation. If he's actually coaching the fact that he's consulting,
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  he's okay. But if he was actually coaching, it could be a
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  excellent coaches have two excellent coaches. So basically, they brought you in as
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  a hired gun like fast Eddie Felski, the pool hustler. They bring you
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  in, you bring your analytics, you lock them down. Here we're talking
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  little burst upon request, Yeah, UoN request. Somehad Jim's are allowed.
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  That's where your voice is going. Trying to help position. You sometimes have
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  to yeah, I get ith, Okay, go ahead anyway? Plus fourteen
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  and points off turnovers, then plus nine and free throws. Your plus twenty
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  three right there in those two categories. So there's your game. West Virginia
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  was able to impose its will enforced turnovers, which it does. It was
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  able to get to the free throw line and keep Oklahoma off the free throw
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  line ballgame. Yeah, the fans on really impressive, really impressive effort.
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  Oklahoma made sixteen yeah, sixteen, thirteen threes. Oh my gosh, this
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  knows voice. Thirteen threes, shot sixty two percent from three and lost.
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  Thanks for coming. Well, we're gonna get some We're gonna get some Bizario
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  numbers when we get into the man's game. Oh my dude, I was,
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  I was. He gave me a rare invite onto his trading post that
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  he does, and I can. I still sit here and just shake my
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  head over fifty percent, three consecutive first halves, fifty percent, three consecutive
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  first halves down twenty five, twelve, and eight. But Tony, as
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  we talked about on my public affairs program, there is an astrotrolic. There's
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  an asterisk next to that fifty percent because they only made ten shots, okay,
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  ten of twenty. So I mean that you shot fifty percent, okay,
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  ten of twenty, And I think that how many shots did they make?
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  They made seventeen and also destroy The first to me when the game was
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  decided was not that West Virginia shot fifty percent. It's that West Virginia had
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  not like nine or ten turnovers and at won. In one stretch of less
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  than three minutes, they had four that led that led to buckets. On
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  the other end, I mean that man demand defense was paralyzing for West Virginia
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  in the first half. And you know, they did a good job going
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  into Edwards and Edwards had a good game. But you know, Brad Edwards,
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  that's a good plan going to Edwards. Get the big guy in foul
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  trouble. You know what Baylor does when the big guy gets big guy.
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  You know what they do when that guy gets and fouled. The third big
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  guy, I mean the third big guy in there is one of the best
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  players in this league and was out there and got a two hour workout in
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  before tip off even happened, Jonathan, And it wasn't just like let me
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  get shots up it Chua. Yeah, so they just have an embarrassment of
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  riches. Uh. And you said, Tony, I want to draw attention
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  to this. You said in your open in your monologue starting the game,
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  you said, call this scene center monologue is what Johnny Carson used to do.
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  Okay, you said in your scene center, this is a team West
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  Virginia needs something good to happen. And that was well said. That's exactly
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  what they needed. They were at home, You're playing a ranked opponent,
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  and they had a couple of good things that happened, but not enough,
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  not enough, and that's that's been the story for the last couple of weeks.
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  Three points on that game first half. What was one of the numbers
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  we said on Baylor shooting. They shoot thirty one percent on the road and
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  from three thank you, they were twenty nine percent in the first half.
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  You were right where you needed to be. What do we say about free
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  throws? Western You has to get the free throw line, take advantage the
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  free throw line, gets the free throw line. You were plus six points
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  on plus six attempts in the first half. You had a seventy five percent
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  free throw rate, so you weren't getting a lot of field goals, but
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  you were getting to the line, and yet you were still down pretty significantly.
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  That's where if you needed some evidence that that was going to be a
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  tough night there it's those two pieces, because you got exactly what you needed
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  and you couldn't stay even Here's here's the number. If you want the number,
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  and it eliminates everything I just said. It eliminates your fifth percent shooting.
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  Here here's what has now happened to this team. And I give credit
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  to Greg Hunter. He was researching this during the game. So this is
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  from coach Hunter. West Virgini's now given up eighty plus points in four straight
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  games. Yeah. Yeah, last time they did that the two thousand and
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  two three season. How'd that end? No? Well, So that's that's
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  really guys. That's that's the issue with the team. It's it's the defensive
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  side of things. It's just too easy for these other teams to score.
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  That's that's where this is at. Now, that's the challenge. And you
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  saw that often the offense kicked in late. I mean it made a run
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  there, like it was gonna be tough to get all the way back in,
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  but they made a run, couldn't finish because of the defense. Yeah.
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  What what is particularly upsetting is the turnovers. That's the big statement.
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  But the softness of the turnovers to the point that you just want to scream
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  at the top of your lungs, or at least inquire, how exactly did
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  you think that pass would arrive at your intended destination without someone from the other
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  team taking it away? Like, what the heck are you doing? Soft
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  turnovers? They're really I mean, turnovers are bad. Soft turnovers are make
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  you crazy. Who was the who's the big six to ten guy that had
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  back to back steals and scored on the other end? Probably our boy,
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  Yeah easy, yeah, I mean just hey, seven, he's listening to
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  seven seven to one. They listened it, right, he's a big fellow
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  seven freshmen. Oh yeah, they got to with footwork. With footwork.
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  Yeah. I mean, this this team brand, to your point, just
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  isn't going to outscore. You can't get in that kind of game. You're
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  not gonna out You're not gonna beat them ninety six ninety two. I mean,
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  you're just not gonna do that. You can't get them many points.
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  And they got a lot of points, but I think a lot of that
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  was late in the second half. The game was decided in the first half.
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  I think when that when West Virginia just was was shut down. Offensively,
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  Okay, they shot fifty percent, but man, that defense, that
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  defense by Baylor, that Manda man was very You were scoring, you were
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  scoring at the line. I mean sometimes when your shots are down, if
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  you're scoring at the line, you're there again, it was the defense.
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  You just didn't You didn't hold them in check in a half when they weren't
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  making shots. It was the points off turnovers and those steals at mid court
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  for dunks. That was too easy that you were there if you had played
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  the defense to limit them when they're missing their shot. That's what they do.
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  It's go to the basket, dunk or layup or shoot a three.
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  They weren't making threes, so what's that tell you about how many layups they
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  were getting to be ahead by that much at half when you were beating them
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  at the line, and they come out to start the second half, it's
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  anyone's game. It's an eight point game at halftime. You score the first
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  two baskets. In the second half, it's a four point game. It's
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  anybody's game. They come out and surgically, yes, surgically pass the ball
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  with extreme efficiency and hit three three three, see you yeah? Done from
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  that point on, Yeah, because they finished the night forty from three.
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  Yeah. So that was it. It was the beginning of the second half.
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  It was anyone's game. At eight. You could you could have made
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  you could come out strong and you all of a sudden get the thing.
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  That's when the thing was over with, and then you're just digging out of
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  a hole the entire rest of the game. Hard to do, all right.
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  The reason I wanted something good to happen you refer to my monologue,
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  Yes, was because you're you're opening a two games set at home. You
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  find a way to steal a victory over a Baylor, give you a third
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  ranked victory of the season, and then you got UCF. You get revenge,
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  you get a couple in the pocket, and you go, okay,
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  now let's go out on the road. Is it don't get too much easier?
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  Iowa State, Kansas state? Back here, Yeah, well it's not
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  easy tomorrow night with UCF coming in. Well, you know what should we
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  on stats West Virginia UCF second game between the two. They beat West Virginia
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  up physically in the first encounter in Orlando Center. Yeah, that's gonna be
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  one of the keys is how you handle the physical aggressiveness, So start with
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  that before you even get into stats. I think that's the first part is
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  mindset wise, is this team gonna fight back when UCF gets physical with you?
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  This is gonna be one of those games. Excuse me, and I
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  know we could say this every game hoppy, but this is really a make
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  shots game. You're gonna have to find a way to make your shots.
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  And here's why. In that first meeting in Orlando, West Virginia only had
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  six rebounds and seven second chance points. They've got great size inside, so
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  if you're not gonna be able to get to the offensive glass. There's only
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  two other prongs of getting points. You better make shots number one and then
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  number two. The free throw line is going to be critical in this one.
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  UCF's a bottom one hundred team nationally an opponent free throw rate. So
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  given that physical defensive style, if you get the right whistle, you should
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  be able to get to the line. You want an example of that,
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  you ask, Yeah, let me, could you give me an example?
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  I could actually a recent one. BYU just put up forty six free throw
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  attempts against UCF. I'm sorry how many forty six? They had? A
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  free throw rate? I often refer to free throw rate number of free throws
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  divided by shot attempts. West Virginia needs to be at forty three percent or
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  above to get wins. That's one of its formulas. BYU could checked in
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  at ninety seven point nine percent free throw rate. That was up at their
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  place. Yeah, how about that in provo? Yeah? Pretty sure is
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  in provo? Yeah, because they beat BYU beat them at UCF. Ninety
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  eighty eight was the score of that game. So get to the make shots,
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  get to the free throw line. You've got to take advantage of their
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  physical nature, use it against them. Get to the basket, get some
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  whistles, score some who was officiating Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormons,
• 22:03
  to get that. By the way, it'll be interesting to see how Baylor
• 22:06
  does in its next game. They left here and went to Provo the next
• 22:08
  day. Don't play don't play it on Tuesday. Well, it's better than
• 22:14
  playing tonight. I mean, I mean, but they're gonna be on there.
• 22:17
  They're gonna you know, you run that risk of how long can you
• 22:18
  stay on the road before you kind of get disinterested and then you go up
• 22:23
  there for the first time. Tough place that's gonna be tough, could be
• 22:27
  could be a soft spot, yeah, could gig bee. Yeah, all
• 22:30
  right, So wat's a free throw line. I'm not saying you're gonna get
• 22:33
  a ninety seven point nine free throw rate, but that should be an area
• 22:36
  where West Virginia can score. And it's got to win that battle. It
• 22:38
  can't just get there a lot and then give up a lot. You've got
• 22:41
  to be big plus at the free throw line. And then the other part
• 22:44
  something you guys talked about there against Baylor. You have to at some point
• 22:48
  limit your turnovers or you're going to get beat again. UCF's a top twenty
• 22:52
  national team in steel percentage. So for a team that really struggles to score
• 22:56
  in UCF at times doesn't shoot the ball extremely well, well, if you're
• 23:00
  giving up those live ball turnovers on steels and they're running in transition, which
• 23:03
  they did all day long in the first meeting, that's a recipe for disaster.
• 23:07
  If you can limit those turnovers that help in the points off turnover category
• 23:12
  and then force them to have to make shots to beat you, you're in
• 23:15
  a better position. So free throw line and steels are the are the two
• 23:18
  biggest keys I'm looking at tomorrow night. Here's how many what have they lost
• 23:22
  in a row? Now? Four or five? Four? West Virginia?
• 23:26
  What's it been? Quite honestly, I've lost I have you really? Yeah?
• 23:30
  So you know, Brad, along with the stats, you're also at
• 23:33
  a point where you've can you overcome it emotionally mentally? Right, because you're
• 23:41
  not winning, you're not used to winning, you're used to you're getting used
• 23:45
  to losing. So can you get over that and you know that that's a
• 23:49
  big emotional thing or do you get like in the second Alps. I'm gonna
• 23:52
  go. Here we go again. It's going down the West. Virginia's lost
• 23:55
  four in a row. Last one was Cincinnata. Yeah, yeah, So
• 23:59
  that's why I know. One key is mentally, how do you handle that
• 24:00
  they're gonna come out and try and physical up on you. Do you just
• 24:03
  say, okay, we're done, we'll just go take a lost back.
• 24:07
  Oh this is all about This is all about toughness tomorrow, because as he
• 24:11
  said, you see, f is physical. They're older, a little bit
• 24:15
  older, and they will they will push you around. So it's gonna be
• 24:19
  up to the mountaineer. It's gonna be up to the mountaineers. You're gonna
• 24:22
  you're gonna get pushed and and just sit there. I'd rather have four guys
• 24:26
  foul out tomorrow, battling and fighting, not not not literally fighting, but
• 24:33
  I mean get up in there and battle. That's what I'd like to see.
• 24:37
  I just cannot stomach getting pushed around. But what did Baylor do try
• 24:42
  to do to Jesse Edwards? Sure? What everyone does? What everyone does.
• 24:48
  I thought he stuck his face in the fat. I thought he did
• 24:49
  too. Yeah, he did a nice job, went right after him.
• 24:53
  I thought he did a nice job. That's and that's what you have to
• 24:56
  do tomorrow night. You have to go right at them. You need some
• 24:59
  help, don't. Don't just settle for the three. Get in there,
• 25:03
  battle them back, fight, get to the free throw and get some points
• 25:04
  so you're too biggest our free throw rate. And limit the turnovers specifically steals,
• 25:11
  specifically points off turnovers, points off turnovers, and free throws. Okay,
• 25:18
  okay, all right, speaking of tough guys, Yeah, speaking of
• 25:23
  tough guys, what do you say we bring one in? Yeah, let's
• 25:26
  go. I can kind of hear him back there. You think he's ready
• 25:30
  to go. We made him. Wait, he's already ready to start talking.
• 25:32
  You do you think he's coaching our producer Austin right in the back is
• 25:37
  anywhere he goes, he just coaches him up. I'll tell you what give
• 25:41
  it, given the given the certain the current guidelines of college basketball. After
• 25:45
  he leaves here, I would take him up to the coliseum. I'd get
• 25:48
  his uniform, and I just put him in the game. You're not too
• 25:49
  far what the heck, you're not too far away? All right? What
• 25:52
  are they gonna do? And So for those for those of you that are
• 25:56
  watching watch this when we I'm back Eric sitting down. Now roll that bean
• 26:03
  video of Eric Stevenson. Here comes Eric Stevenson. Bring him on in here
• 26:07
  we go. Get his mic set up there, Senator, pop that mic
• 26:10
  up there. Come on in here, Eric, Come on in here,
• 26:12
  Eric, here we go, Come on in here. Coach Stevenson, get
• 26:15
  in here, get it, get in here. Sit down. We only
• 26:18
  got forty seconds of highlights. Sit down fast, let's go. He's got
• 26:21
  more highlights than that. Look at him, all, looking all, Look
• 26:22
  at all smooth there he is. Yeah, get that microphone right in front
• 26:29
  of a big dog. Well, he's got the he's got the he's got
• 26:32
  the chair set on high. Yeah, lower there, he's right. He's
• 26:38
  probably about sixty three place sixty five. Look at those highlights. Let's do
• 26:41
  a little bit three cap all right, all's left side wing backing him in,
• 26:47
  backing them in. Oh, look who's in the right side corner?
• 26:48
  Stans open three hang out splash, splash. I was taking a bat found
• 26:53
  the open man. Look at that form, shoots it like a coach.
• 26:59
  Let's see what he does here? Can he run in transition? Whoop whoop,
• 27:03
  whoop? Crazy there it is Bingo done. Wait a minute, that
• 27:10
  couldn't have been him because he wasn't talking to the opposing team when he was
• 27:12
  running out the court. Well, look at you in transition. All of
• 27:15
  a sudden, finger roll old school. Some people question whether you can dunk
• 27:21
  it or not. I don't think finger roll that thing in there here?
• 27:26
  Oh that's NBA basketball boom spot up for three. They got a three foot
• 27:32
  was on the line. Yeah, Now would that be one of those on
• 27:33
  guarded catching shoots we talk about a lot, right, Yeah, he can
• 27:37
  do that. He can do that. All right, Welcome into the program,
• 27:40
  Eric Stevenson. That's a return. Thanks so much for doing this.
• 27:42
  Oh yeah, happy to be here. Could to see it. Dude,
• 27:45
  we missed you. I've missed this place, man, I missed the coliseum.
• 27:48
  Mister fan base, your name comes up a little bit on this show,
• 27:51
  a little bit. You know how many times we said this year,
• 27:53
  if you just had a freaking guy like Stevenson that had some ball, that
• 27:59
  would his face in there and guard and go down and shoot and give someone
• 28:03
  some crap. It's uh, I don't know, you know, I gotta
• 28:07
  watch what I say, but it's uh. It gets me going watching them
• 28:11
  boys, you know, because it's it's frustrating seeing the lack of just fight,
• 28:17
  you know what I mean. You and I were sitting together in September,
• 28:19
  it was like two days before you left, if you remember watching practice.
• 28:23
  Yeah, and I said, what do you think? And you go,
• 28:26
  they're skilled, he goes, but I don't see any dogs. There's
• 28:30
  no there's no barking out there, there's no not you know, not necessarily.
• 28:33
  You've got to be, you know, getting into it like I like
• 28:36
  to do. But you know, you got to have a little bit of
• 28:37
  something, you know too, you because you gotta guard. You gotta put
• 28:41
  up some fight, you know. I mean, you're in the best league
• 28:42
  in the country. So it's if you're not gonna put up any fight,
• 28:45
  man, it's just gonna be lay ups and duns, you know what I
• 28:48
  mean, a lot of them. I've seen that. You know, those
• 28:51
  are high percentage shots, so I mean, it's gonna be hard to win
• 28:55
  doing that. But you I was singing back today, as you well know,
• 29:00
  so many people tell you this, you should have been a four year
• 29:03
  mountaineer, because if you were a four year mountaineer, like they might have
• 29:08
  a street named after you. By now that would be fine. Think Stevenson
• 29:12
  Place if he'd been a four year guy. But anyway, so you left
• 29:17
  an impact. But you also, in just one season, had this very
• 29:21
  memorable season, so we could call it like a two chapter season. There
• 29:26
  was like getting you know, getting to feel how the lay of the land
• 29:29
  is here, and you were a wild child. And then and then the
• 29:32
  Oklahoma state thing happened, and that took you a couple of games after that
• 29:36
  to reset. But he got sick too. Yeah, yeah, you're right,
• 29:40
  he's sick, sick, sick, hospital sick. And then when you
• 29:42
  and then when you finally got back, then you went like you went on
• 29:45
  a bender. The reset was an all timer, all timer. Yeah,
• 29:48
  I mean that was as hot as anybody who's flavor played here was. Yeah,
• 29:51
  I'm going through the same type of deal right now. Actually with the
• 29:53
  whole reset, you know, those highlights were from I don't know, December,
• 30:00
  but playing a lot then, and I was playing a lot to start
• 30:04
  the regular season, you know, the new year, and then we switched
• 30:07
  some things up and then you know, now I'm comd of coming off the
• 30:11
  I mean I was coming off the bench for the majority of the year,
• 30:12
  but just trying to get back into a rhythm, you know, I because
• 30:15
  basketball is just pure rhythm for you know, for a guy. Yeah,
• 30:19
  So like when you're you know, the G League is very wishy washy.
• 30:23
  You know, you never know what you're gonna get. It's just very inconsistent.
• 30:26
  What do you mean by that. It's it's very inconsistent in terms of
• 30:30
  you know, guys being sent down to play with US rosters and roster change
• 30:34
  and you know what what they want to see, they being decision makers,
• 30:40
  what they want to see from certain guys in certain positions. You know.
• 30:42
  So like obviously it's my first year you know, in the professional world,
• 30:48
  but you know, they've put me in positions to be, you know,
• 30:49
  a microwave off the bench and you know, a successful dat and then they
• 30:55
  put me in a position to score the first you know, five and a
• 31:00
  half six games of the regular season, and I was I was probably playing
• 31:04
  the best basketball in my life outside of maybe those two saturdays here. But
• 31:10
  and then after that they kind of, you know, we went we started
• 31:12
  losing some games, and you know, we started playing some better teams,
• 31:15
  but we started losing, and there's certain guys that they that can't be taken
• 31:18
  out of the lineup, you know, just money wise, and that's how
• 31:22
  it goes. And so you know, I mean, if if you're the
• 31:26
  guys that is expendable, you know, I mean, you're the variable,
• 31:27
  You've got to deal with a lot of stuff, you know, So different
• 31:30
  roles and different opportunities, different minutes. Yeah, So the past five or
• 31:36
  six games is you know, it's been very uh mentally obviously frustrating. You
• 31:41
  know, I like playing. I like playing. I like contributing to winning.
• 31:45
  So you know, it's it's been a different role for me lately,
• 31:48
  which has, uh, it's been frustrating. But you know, I gotta
• 31:51
  get used to it so it'll make you stronger. Yeah, I mean you'll
• 31:53
  look back at this. Whenever you'll look back at this. You got to
• 31:56
  go through. You gotta go through valleys to get back up. Yes,
• 32:00
  it's all about just handling the ebbs and flows. And then, like I
• 32:01
  said, this break was needed, you know, just mentally unplugged for a
• 32:05
  couple of days and then get back to it kind of the last month of
• 32:07
  the year. So that said, getting used to the mental side and the
• 32:09
  and the business side of it watching you know, in summer league game in
• 32:12
  the G League, talent wise, skill wise, you're right there. I
• 32:15
  mean you've adjusted to that right away, Like you feel comfortable, you feel
• 32:17
  like you got it. Like, hey, I'm I'll be absolutely should be
• 32:20
  here. I'll be honest, man, if I if I got the opportunities
• 32:22
  in the minutes that the you know, the two way guys and the assignment
• 32:27
  guys got, I wouldn't be in the G League for much longer. But
• 32:30
  it's just a matter of opportunity in minutes. And you know it. Also,
• 32:35
  there's plenty of things I go into it too, plenty of speculations,
• 32:37
  you know, like they could you know, for those five games, they
• 32:39
  played me a lot, put me in opportunities to show what I could do,
• 32:44
  and then you know, they could easily sit you down because oh you're
• 32:45
  playing two good we don't want another team to pick you up, you know
• 32:49
  what I mean. Or it's like, you know, we're putting you this
• 32:52
  position to show us what you can do, and so then we're going to
• 32:55
  take you out of that position, put another guy in there to see what
• 32:58
  he can do, because it's a gili you know what I mean, Like
• 33:00
  winning is. I want to say winning is not a priority, but winning
• 33:02
  is not the main focus. It's just about developing developmental right, So like
• 33:06
  minor league baseball. Yeah, like a guy like me, like I hate
• 33:08
  losing, you know what I mean, Like I can't stand it. So
• 33:12
  like we were losing games early on and I'm I'm trying to you know,
• 33:15
  I'm on winner, you know what I mean. I hate losing. So
• 33:19
  it was driving me nuts and then I kind of just had to take a
• 33:22
  back seat with you know, not that wasn't being you know, outlandis or
• 33:27
  anything, but like I had to take a back seat in my own world
• 33:29
  about you know, winning is. I can have winning as my priority,
• 33:32
  but the main priority is developing and showing organizations that I can heart an NBA
• 33:37
  team win. Well, you can win every day though individually you just said,
• 33:40
  Okay, I'm gonna win today. I'm gonna make myself better today than
• 33:43
  I was Yesterday's all you can. You've got to win more days than you
• 33:45
  lose, and you know, and so I mean, there's a gonna be
• 33:46
  days where you lose, just that's just how it goes. But you just
• 33:50
  got to keep getting up, shown up every day, you know, deal
• 33:52
  with whatever's thrown your way in What's what's the difference physically, If there is
• 33:57
  a significant difference, I wouldn't say it's it's very different physically. There's some
• 34:05
  there's some big time athletes in the in the G League. Obviously in the
• 34:07
  NBA, you know, you're playing NBA athletes every night, it's just NBA
• 34:10
  athletes that just haven't developed into what an NBA team wants yet. So it's
• 34:15
  you know, you could you'll be playing guys that are a lottery picks,
• 34:17
  you know what I mean. Like you know, early in the year,
• 34:19
  we were playing Cam Whitmore before he got caught up with the boy from Villanova.
• 34:22
  He can play, he's really good. And there's other big time names
• 34:27
  in the G League. You know, the G league's not what it used
• 34:29
  to be. You know, when it was a D league, it was
• 34:31
  it was still solid basketball, but it wasn't a lot of like high level
• 34:35
  talent in it. And now it's it's high level talent and you know,
• 34:38
  guys can play, you know what I mean. So if you don't come
• 34:40
  ready to be ready to go, you will lose by forty because the game
• 34:44
  there's so many possessions, you know. I mean if if you're one team
• 34:46
  is not ready to play and other team is ready to play, you could
• 34:49
  easily walk out of there down forty. Yeah. So when you were here,
• 34:53
  obviously a lot is made of travel about Big West Virginia in the Big
• 34:58
  twelve, going west and doing and you have a couple of game trip right,
• 35:01
  getting worse now, But you just got your eyes open to some serious
• 35:05
  travel, didn't you. Yeah, it's brutal. Let me ask you this,
• 35:09
  How good is this? Now? No? I love this. The
• 35:14
  league is insane. That's what I always say. Like people act, you
• 35:17
  don't get it. It doesn't get better than this. It only the only
• 35:21
  way it gets better is if you skipped the g leue and go straight to
• 35:22
  the league, right, you know, because in you're flying private and you
• 35:25
  know you're doing your thing, but flying commercial. And then like our last
• 35:30
  trip, we flew to Rio Grand, Texas to play Houston, flew down
• 35:37
  there, played our game and then drove back. And that drive is five
• 35:39
  hours on a you know, not like a layout sprinter bus. It was
• 35:43
  just a regular team bus, right, you know what I mean? And
• 35:45
  it's brutal. We've had a four hour ride five or ride I think we're
• 35:47
  going to drive back from Okay see next week, which is like six.
• 35:51
  Have you gone west yet? Have you gone to California yet? And done
• 35:53
  that? We did. That's so that's when I was in the lineup and
• 35:55
  playing. Okay, so give us, give us the stops on that one.
• 35:59
  So we went. We went from Austin to Ontario, California, which
• 36:04
  is outside LA. Spent four four fridays there. We had two games there.
• 36:10
  Went from there, drove to Vegas, which is like three hours that's
• 36:14
  not bad. Swept Vegas that we had. Oh so that was that was
• 36:21
  and uh, before we went to California, we had we played La at
• 36:22
  home. So La on a Friday or whatever it was, flew out Saturday,
• 36:27
  was in California Sunday through Thursday or something like that. Drove to Vegas
• 36:30
  Friday, played Saturday, played Monday or might have played Saturday Sunday, and
• 36:36
  then flew from there to Sioux Falls, South Dakota. Played played a really
• 36:40
  good team, The Miami j League team was really good, and that's you
• 36:45
  know we did. We lost both those games. Now we're sitting five and
• 36:47
  two, still like one of the top teams. In G League and then
• 36:52
  we kind of we kind of went on a skid from there, and then
• 36:53
  that's when things started to change and I got pushed out of the rotation.
• 36:58
  But I'm saying, you know, that's where the for the ebbs and flows
• 37:00
  perfect. You're a battler, you do better, you do better when things
• 37:04
  are bad. It might be more more so of a test, you know,
• 37:07
  because in that first stretch, I showed that I can produce at a
• 37:09
  high level like I was. I think I was putting up like nineteen five
• 37:13
  and four on fifty five, forty five and one hundred, so i mean
• 37:16
  numbers that's elite. Yeah, you know what I mean. Like, that's
• 37:19
  elite, you know. And so I'm like, I'm like, I should
• 37:22
  be expecting something here real soon. But then I got yanked out of the
• 37:24
  lineup, you know what i mean. So then it's there's so many things
• 37:28
  you could you could throw through your head, Like if you let the negative
• 37:30
  thoughts come into your head, it'll translate, you know what I mean.
• 37:31
  And definitely that you know it kind of it kind of took its toll on
• 37:36
  me for a few games, and I'm still I was still in a little
• 37:37
  bit of a slump coming to an All Star breaks, so I definitely needed
• 37:40
  a break from it for sure. What's a day like days? Really you
• 37:45
  both do do a non game day and a game day non game day,
• 37:50
  like like a complete off day. Yeah, a complete off day. You're
• 37:52
  doing that like you literally have nothing. You're just resting, you're just chilling,
• 37:55
  all right, give me a practice day, no game right day,
• 38:00
  no game is. I'll pick you up probably eight thirty nine o'clock, go
• 38:04
  to practice. You're probably in the gym for two two and a half hours
• 38:07
  max. Practicing for like an hour maybe hour and a half, and then
• 38:10
  uh, team stuff for more individual work. No, it's it's mainly team
• 38:15
  stuff, which you know, it's it's good and all. But you know,
• 38:20
  I love to work on my game, you know. So if there's
• 38:24
  if there's one thing that I would want more, I gotta be careful how
• 38:29
  I heard this, but there if there's one thing I would ask for more,
• 38:30
  would be just access to me being able to go in and get my
• 38:36
  work on my own, you know, because like when I was here practice,
• 38:40
  I was in there two hours, hour forty five before practice, getting
• 38:44
  working, going through a hugs practice. You know, those go. So
• 38:46
  I'm already four and a half sometimes five hours into my day. Then after
• 38:52
  practice, you know, I might stay and get get some more working and
• 38:53
  get some shots up. So like that's a that's a full day. I
• 38:57
  mean six hours of work and that that's what I was used to for four
• 39:01
  out of my five years of college. We need to get your gym,
• 39:04
  That's what I'm saying. So it's is it a facility issue? Is it
• 39:07
  a team issue? They don't they don't want guys around when they're not in
• 39:09
  What's what's the issue? I think it might be a little bit of both.
• 39:14
  This, you know, just speculation. You know. You know,
• 39:15
  Kawhi Leonards played for the Spurs back in his you know, his young days,
• 39:19
  and obviously he's a gym where he's a superstar, So obviously he puts
• 39:22
  his time into the gym. And he was one of the guys from what
• 39:27
  I've heard, he was one of the guys that really, you know,
• 39:30
  the whole load of management deal. He was really one of the guys that
• 39:31
  kind of started that because he would be working his tail off and then go
• 39:37
  into games and maybe not be able to play as many minutes as the Spurs
• 39:38
  would like him to. And so like you know, you know, we
• 39:42
  need to limit your your off time of being in the gym. We need
• 39:45
  to cut that out a little bit, so you could play thirty whatever minutes
• 39:47
  sooner would you play, And so that might have trickled down through the entire
• 39:52
  organization to the g League, you know, which I mean I understand,
• 39:55
  you know. I mean they want if you're paying, if you're paying guys,
• 39:58
  you want them to produce at seven clock, you know what I mean,
• 40:00
  not not at new you know. And so I mean I definitely understand
• 40:04
  that. But as a rookie, it's like, you know, I'm trying
• 40:07
  to stamp myself in the association, you know, because I mean, the
• 40:13
  GE League is definitely part of the NBA's you're one call away from your life
• 40:16
  champion, you know. And so you know, I'm just naturally a gym
• 40:20
  rat, and so when I can't be a gym rat, it's like I'm
• 40:23
  just sitting there like doing nothing, you know, And it'll take a tonumenttally
• 40:28
  because like a guy like me, like you know, you got to be
• 40:31
  confident, you guys know, I'm very confident in my ability. So it's
• 40:35
  like if I'm going out, you know, during the game and I'm picking
• 40:39
  spots where I know I can you know, be effective offensively or create something
• 40:45
  for somebody else, and you know, I'm either not in that position to
• 40:47
  do that or I haven't had the time in the gym during the season to
• 40:52
  stay sharp. It's like it'll it'll take toll. And you're confidence though,
• 40:57
  you know, because you're not ready to perform at that level because you're not
• 41:00
  getting those reps every day. So I mean you're in Austin, or you're
• 41:04
  in Austin, Austin, Austin, Okay, so you they don't have a
• 41:08
  regular facility and they can't go like a trainer can't let you in. And
• 41:12
  so we we practiced at like it's almost like a rec center, but it's
• 41:16
  like it's like a higher level rec center, like a public just work on
• 41:22
  you know, it's like La Fitness, but it's it's more private in La
• 41:25
  Finness, you know, I mean membership and all that. But then where
• 41:30
  are the games? The games are about forty minutes away in Cedar Park,
• 41:34
  Texas, Okay, outside of San Antonio Joe. And then yeah, it's
• 41:38
  just front of the show. The park he's adopted Eric. Where do where
• 41:44
  do you live in Austin? I live in BK, Texas, So it's
• 41:46
  like twenty minutes from downtown. And you know, they put us up in
• 41:50
  the prend drive by his house over the last week when you were there,
• 41:52
  I was, I thought, but I was. I was just down there.
• 41:54
  My son lives in bass Drop, which is outside of Austin. You've
• 41:58
  been to Sixth Street. I've been a couple of times. And Rainy been
• 42:00
  to Rainey Street. I've been to Rainy once and it uh, it's a
• 42:06
  pro athlete doesn't need to be socializing like you running up and like High Street.
• 42:08
  He's not wasting time nothing like I was, Like I was, you
• 42:13
  know, I was told that it was going to be, you know,
• 42:15
  probably one of the best places you've been to. I'm like, all right,
• 42:17
  let you know, we can go test it out a little bit.
• 42:19
  You know, we got some time and I went there and I haven't gone
• 42:22
  back. Well, you're you're coming from a pro area hall of fame,
• 42:27
  like like hall of Fame, s tier party school. So it's like it's
• 42:31
  true. Yeah, I think like it's hard to compete to me. Sixth
• 42:35
  Street is rechurch at Rainey Street. I like to want you know, you
• 42:37
  know, if you're different from that area, and you know, you know
• 42:39
  when that it's you know, it's supposed to be you know, active done
• 42:42
  there. It could be a fun time for sure, but you're pro you
• 42:45
  don't, you know, I don't just don't get I really just don't do
• 42:47
  that a whole lot anymore. And just checking and it's just what he really
• 42:52
  likes to do a lot is go pontooning and low Onondo Marine River there.
• 42:57
  Yeah. Lou Wndo Marine Sales is the premier pontoon dealer in the state of
• 43:00
  West Virginia. In fact, uh, they provide the James Bond movie series
• 43:04
  with all the pontoons. You ever see Bond in a pontoon boat. It's
• 43:07
  from lou Wendol Marine Sales in Saint Albans that the premier pontoon boat dealer in
• 43:13
  the state of West Virginia. As I said earlier, huh, it's unconfirmed.
• 43:16
  Right. So six o'clock is the sunset, which means we're getting closer
• 43:21
  and closer to pontoon season. So if you're ready, if your pontoon needs
• 43:25
  to be serviced, if your craft needs to be serviced. It's lou Wendell
• 43:30
  Marine Sales in Saint Albans. Visit them at lou Wendell Marine Sales dot com.
• 43:35
  I could see the coach there on lou Wendell Pontoon on the Colorado,
• 43:38
  no questions, right through Austin there, no question. I'm back here and
• 43:42
  do it on Cheat Lake, on Seat Lake, no question. Yeah,
• 43:45
  okay, I think eventually, at some point, I mean it might be
• 43:47
  twenty years down the road, I think you'll live here. I hope I'm
• 43:51
  living here coaching here. Oh well, there we go. That'll be a
• 43:53
  nugget. Coach Stevenson. That's the yeah. I mean, we do refer
• 43:57
  to you as coach Stevenson. Oh yeah, I mean I don't always have.
• 44:00
  We didn't definitely embrace guys. Guys. Saw you guy that I saw
• 44:05
  watch you play in the G League says you do a little coaching there as
• 44:07
  well. I definitely, you know, that's what's my personality, you know.
• 44:09
  So I try to. But it's very you know, it's very hard
• 44:14
  to maybe frowned upon. It might be fround. It might be frowned upon,
• 44:20
  really, that might be the way to put it. It might be
• 44:22
  frowned upon. But just you know, I'm very vocal, you know,
• 44:25
  and I you know, and I feel like I know the game a little
• 44:28
  bit. So it's like, you know, you know, trying to voice
• 44:30
  your opinions. But now I'm kind of at a point now where you know,
• 44:34
  I kind of just let the other guys do it and I try And
• 44:36
  what's how's the officiating different or is it might be worse? Seriously, it
• 44:40
  might be worse than really in what way? Let too much go in consistent?
• 44:45
  Call too much consistent? Very inconsistent? Uh honestly, And a lot
• 44:51
  of the ref are very unapproachable, oh, really, like very unapproachable.
• 44:57
  And you've you've had discussions with I mean I've had I've had a couple of
• 45:01
  texts year just oh really, just my text are warranted, though they're not
• 45:06
  like just I'm screaming at the other team, like like if I'm getting tech,
• 45:07
  I'm gonnarove my point. You know you're gonna understand why I'm getting in
• 45:12
  tech, you know. And yeah, it's just, uh, you know,
• 45:15
  I try not to speak to the rest very much. You know.
• 45:17
  We we have male and female officials, and they're like it it has nothing
• 45:22
  to do with male or female, Like some of them are just very just
• 45:24
  unapproachable, and it's it's almost like it's almost like they think that everybody's paying
• 45:32
  money to come watch them ref the game, which is, uh, it's
• 45:36
  interesting because they're there just like you guys are there to be id and then
• 45:40
  to make it to the next level. So I'm wondering if their lack of
• 45:45
  communication is something that those that are observing them want. In other words,
• 45:51
  they just want to be like they want tough asses because you know, you
• 45:53
  get up to that next level it is you're hearing it from the players all
• 45:57
  the time. So I'm wondering how much of that is that, Yeah,
• 46:00
  it could be. I'm sure it's some of that, but also it's like
• 46:04
  it's healthy for the game to have respectful dialogue between officials and players and officials
• 46:08
  and coaches. You know. But to your point about them trying to level
• 46:13
  up, and you know everybody in the G League is that so head coaches,
• 46:17
  assistant coaches, players all trying to get support staff, like it's all
• 46:22
  everybody's trying to level up. So it's at the same time as you're trying
• 46:24
  to you're trying to have a successful year. Everybody is me, me,
• 46:29
  me minded, which makes it very hard to for a guy who's all about
• 46:32
  winning, It makes it very hard to navigate some situations. But you really
• 46:39
  just gotta I don't know, like it's very it's very difficult, but you
• 46:44
  really just got to bite your tongue and you know, be your best,
• 46:46
  be your best with your minutes. Let me candidly, would you be would
• 46:52
  you be better suited? And and your goal is to get to the NBA
• 46:54
  and we hope you do and you've got a great shut to do it.
• 46:58
  If that doesn't work out, would you be better to be in Europe where
• 47:00
  there's team and trying to reach a certain goal and you know there's more of
• 47:04
  an atmosphere. Because that's the question, right you have to make that decision.
• 47:07
  What's better for you to get to the League Europe or G League?
• 47:09
  Yeah, So it's really like anything, it's about opportunity. So, like
• 47:15
  I said, I've been putting positions to be successful this year, and I've
• 47:20
  shown that I could, I could play in certain roles. You know,
• 47:24
  I think I've shown that I can you know, when I'm in the when
• 47:28
  I'm in rotation and in rhythm, and involved. I've shown that I could
• 47:31
  make shots and play defense around the superstar, you know, like that's what
• 47:35
  that's what my role is going to be at the next level. I'm not
• 47:37
  going to be a twenty pointed game behind in the NBA. Like that's that's
• 47:39
  far faced. You know, I might get there one day, but early
• 47:42
  on I'll be you know, three, anacilitator three and d fine women and
• 47:47
  space, which is that's perfectly fine. I mean, he's one of the
• 47:51
  best players in the world, so it's you know, space around him and
• 47:53
  play. And then the European game, to your point is is different and
• 47:59
  in the aspect of there's no deal deal, there's no g League for a
• 48:04
  European team, you know, so it's like if you're on that team,
• 48:07
  you're already you're there to win. You there to develop, You're not there
• 48:08
  to get called up somebody else, right, You're there to win, and
• 48:10
  if you win and be successful, then you you can you know, get
• 48:14
  a better contract. So when it comes to opportunity of best way to get
• 48:21
  to the NBA, I think it's it's all about what organization you're in and
• 48:25
  what that organization sees for you and allows you to do on the court.
• 48:30
  So like, obviously I have a month or so left with the G League,
• 48:35
  and so you know, we'll have our exit meetings. So in those
• 48:37
  exit meetings, you'll have to ask your questions. You know, what do
• 48:39
  you see me doing? You know, do you see me a part of
• 48:42
  your organization in the future. First of all, do even want me back?
• 48:45
  That's that's number one, you know, because they could just you know,
• 48:47
  cut ties with you right there. So it's really what team is going
• 48:52
  to put you in a position to show what you can do. And then
• 48:57
  if another team or their team or you know, if the Spur or any
• 49:00
  other one of the teams wants to add me to their organization, if they
• 49:04
  have a need for me, then that's where that will go. When when
• 49:07
  they pull a file out in the league. On Eric Stevenson Scout Report,
• 49:12
  what do you think it says does Well needs to do this in order to
• 49:16
  get to here? Does Well? I think obviously you can space the floor.
• 49:22
  He's a threat from you know, from the three point line, which
• 49:24
  is huge in the NBA because it's all athletes trying to go downhill. So
• 49:29
  I mean, if if guys can create we call it gravity you know,
• 49:31
  I'm a gravity guy. So if you see me sprints at the corner and
• 49:35
  my guy has to flatten out to the baseline, it creates a it creates
• 49:38
  a driving lane for you know, for an athlete to get downhill and go
• 49:42
  finish. So you know, he's a gravity guy. Competitor, obviously,
• 49:46
  that's probably number one that probably trumps everything. Competes. He's gonna he's gonna
• 49:52
  fight on both ends of the floor. And I think the box that was
• 49:57
  was the one I needed to check the most, was is it gonna be
• 50:00
  will defend at a professional level? And I've already shown that that. You
• 50:02
  know, I can defend. I can defend in my one on ones,
• 50:06
  and I can defend in the system, you know, because the professional defensive
• 50:08
  system is way different. So it's basically just you got to show that you
• 50:13
  can fit in a system with rotations and closeouts and certain things like that and
• 50:15
  understand scouting reports. It's it's a little different answer this question. As you
• 50:21
  know, there are those and probably a lot of those that say the NBA
• 50:25
  doesn't play defense. They play defenses like they definitely play defense. There's some
• 50:31
  guys that don't. Obviously, you could just tell. But the NBA plays
• 50:35
  defense. It's just so it's so hard to like, if you have four
• 50:38
  guys on the offensive end that can score anytime, it's hard to stop that,
• 50:43
  you know, So you have to you have to scheme differently, you
• 50:45
  have to rotate differently, and it's like you got to play the numbers sometimes
• 50:47
  because like like I'll talk about Phoenix, if you're trying to guard Kevin Durant,
• 50:52
  Bradbuild and Devin Booker, and like you're trying to focus on one,
• 50:55
  the other two will give you thirty each. So it's like you gotta you
• 50:59
  really got to live with some things every now. And I thought last night's
• 51:02
  All Star Game was the absolute definition of the unbelievable offensive skill and efficiency that
• 51:12
  this this league's players have. It's ridiculous. They ran one hundred and ten
• 51:15
  up in a half. Yeah, like obviously there's no there's literally zero defense
• 51:19
  being played in that, but you still got to make shots exactly. That's
• 51:22
  my point. There was no defense. I'm not saying there was any defense
• 51:25
  exactly. That's what I'm talking about. You just have marksmen out there,
• 51:29
  whether it's open or not. Just there was no defense. Those would be
• 51:32
  the scores every night. That's the no defense. What actually happens is not
• 51:37
  no defense, like no defense would be an All Star game, but like
• 51:40
  there's definitely defense being played, and come playoff time, you can see it's
• 51:45
  even ramped up even more. Like a scout import. You know, we'll
• 51:49
  get a scout of twelve guys and then you know, this guy's a driver.
• 51:52
  He's a cold guy. He's an under guy. Basically, you know,
• 51:54
  short close out, there's a ball screen you're going under, make him
• 51:58
  shoot. But like a guy, like a guy like me is would be
• 52:00
  you know, run off the line. He's a hot guy. He can
• 52:02
  make shots. And if you're in the pick and roll, if like if
• 52:07
  if I'm in the pick and roll, the coverage for me will probably go
• 52:10
  over or another term where we make is a miss it basically just switch up
• 52:14
  your coverages with him, you know, make them see different looks type of
• 52:16
  thing. So honestly, I was a believer of the defense, of the
• 52:22
  of the whole defensive thing where guys don't play defense in the NBA until I
• 52:24
  got into the NBA system. Like, yeah, these guys play a little
• 52:29
  defense. I understand why you could see that because if you just make the
• 52:34
  right play, which is very uncommon in the G League, you just make
• 52:37
  the right play, you will get an open shot, you know what I
• 52:38
  mean, Just because guys are so good at getting downhill in the paint and
• 52:42
  guys have to help them somewhere. There's gonna be two points, you know.
• 52:45
  So that's another thing when it comes to you pull the file out on
• 52:50
  me, is he's gonna try and make the right play, you know,
• 52:52
  every time he's gonna make them one more, you know, pass up with
• 52:54
  going for a great one. But I think that stands out for sure because
• 52:59
  nine percent of Julie does not feel like that. They would rather take a
• 53:01
  bad shot rather than give it up and get a good one. Yeah,
• 53:04
  Like, I'd rather have an assist than a misshot, right, I'd rather
• 53:07
  pass up a good one for a great one. But you know not everybody
• 53:10
  thinks that way. The thing you got to keep in your head is at
• 53:12
  the end of the day, you're gonna you're gonna play professional basketball for as
• 53:15
  long as you want to, and you're gonna make money. That's all you
• 53:17
  gotta tell yourself. You're gonna be You're gonna be a pro pro basketball player,
• 53:21
  and you're gonna make money as long as the first and the fifteenth keep
• 53:23
  coming around. It's it makes it easy to put up with the truss me.
• 53:27
  There's a lot of guys that have met have not been as good as
• 53:30
  you, that have played a lot of basketball. Very true for a long
• 53:34
  time. So you will. By the way, you had mentioned earlier Brad
• 53:37
  about when he got when he got hot last year, so it was,
• 53:43
  you know, it's fun time State tex Texas Tech February eighteenth. You had
• 53:47
  a series of games. You went twenty seven, twenty three, twenty three,
• 53:51
  twenty three, twenty seven. Wow, that was a fun five game
• 53:54
  stretch. Huh, you were smoking it. That was fun man. You
• 53:59
  know. I got to credit Huggs of that though. He uh he pulled
• 54:02
  me aside maybe a couple of games after the Oklahoma State Kansas State trip,
• 54:08
  and uh, he didn't want he didn't really like laying a me, but
• 54:12
  he he basical said, he's like, you owe me a few games,
• 54:15
  so you get it back. I paid him back. I tried to how
• 54:19
  to get him to the tournament. Auburn was fun thirty one. I loved
• 54:22
  the Auburn man. Jana seventeen seven threes. He went seven to ten from
• 54:24
  three. Alburn was very fun, very fun. Man. I missed like
• 54:30
  I missed playing the Colisseum miss You had five hundred and twenty two points pretviod
• 54:36
  season in a season at five twenty two. That's why he should have been
• 54:38
  a four year Martin. You know what you're ding? Dogging around Hugs didn't
• 54:42
  like Washington, Washington, Wichitas, South Carolina, jacking around till you guy
• 54:47
  here. He's hugest round. What uh you get any crowds for the G
• 54:52
  League games? Any crowd crowds? Uh? Yeah, we have a pretty
• 54:54
  good crowd in Austin actually for how cold arena is it? Actually, he
• 55:00
  surprises me to how many people actually still come out. We play on a
• 55:01
  high drink. Poster night? What was what was it? What was the
• 55:04
  night when you were a poster night? Your picture was on it? What
• 55:06
  was it? Disney princesses or something? Oh? Yeah, I think I
• 55:09
  was in the one jersey? Yeah you were. I can't remember what.
• 55:12
  We may have shown that on this podcast in the past. What's the what's
• 55:15
  the gear situation and shoe situation? They supply you're on your own. Yeah,
• 55:19
  they're on your own. For your shoes. They give you one pair
• 55:22
  of shoes, but they're practice shoes. They're not I'm definitely not putting those
• 55:25
  on my feet. So you're on your own. Yeah, so you're pretty
• 55:29
  much on your own. They give you some gear, but they didn't get
• 55:31
  close enough with Web during the summer league to make sure he kicks some down.
• 55:35
  I thought I could to get some gear. I was sitting next to
• 55:37
  one on the bench, and oh, I thought, I did. He's
• 55:39
  a good dude, man, I like, I like this always it like,
• 55:42
  uh, semi pro Will Ferrell. You see that movie, Yeah,
• 55:45
  I've seen that for sure. It's a lot like that something. It's probably
• 55:47
  similar to that. So webin Yama freak freak. That's what I was gonna
• 55:54
  say. Friendly and in a nice way. Yeah, just like nothing that
• 55:59
  you could even sketch on a piece of paper, right to say, like,
• 56:01
  okay, what if we made a player. He's an alien? Yeah,
• 56:05
  he's an alien. Seven four Like when I was in mini camp and
• 56:08
  a couple of days I was in training camp. He is an alien for
• 56:14
  sure. Like that was the first time I played with him. Obviously playing
• 56:16
  summarily with him, but that was very short. You know, in training
• 56:19
  camp, I got you know, I was on the flour with him and
• 56:21
  we're going through drills and whatnot and the stuff that guys you know, can
• 56:25
  do athletically. You know that are you know somewhat hard. It's like he's
• 56:31
  playing on a mini goal. I mean it's it's just ridiculous and nerve right,
• 56:35
  Yeah, it's reference what it is in a nerf hove. And it's
• 56:38
  like in defensively though, his ability is ridiculous. You know, he guard
• 56:42
  one through five, closes out pretty well closed out. He doesn't have to.
• 56:46
  He could jump from the block and could test your shot. So it's
• 56:50
  you know, and don't get me like I think he's averaging twenty ten and
• 56:52
  four blocks or something like that. I think the only person ever do that
• 56:54
  is Shack. I mean that that could show you right there, like you're
• 56:59
  doing that at what team? Yeah, you need scratching a surface. He's
• 57:01
  gonna if he if he puts on this is my opinion, if he could
• 57:05
  put on the right weight, you know, the right muscle mass, he
• 57:08
  could go down his one of the best ever. Oh absolutely, that's not
• 57:10
  even no question. That's not exactly right. He could, and then this
• 57:15
  this will come back to haunt me. So someone will say this thirteen years
• 57:17
  from now. But I mean just based upon the size jabbar esque, right,
• 57:23
  he'sabar es he is. But guard skills, yeah, you know that
• 57:29
  stuff. That's the alien part. Yeah, you're seeing him call ISOs.
• 57:32
  You know, it just all come down the court, you know, do
• 57:36
  whatever whatever and nothing happens. And I was, I got the ball,
• 57:37
  So I'm going you know, between a leg step back from NBA line seven
• 57:42
  four. You're not contesting this, you know what I mean. It's like
• 57:45
  it's just cone work. It's just drill work, because like what what are
• 57:47
  you gonna do? I mean, you're if you're six eight trying to contest
• 57:50
  seven four, like run back on defense. It's uh, it's impressive for
• 57:58
  sure. Well we need you to uh you got to remember, like we
• 58:01
  need you to hang in there because nothing good comes easy in life and you're
• 58:05
  just in one of those spots where you're just gonna have to go through some
• 58:07
  stuff, no cause that's that's always how it goes, right, to be
• 58:10
  honest, I had to go through stuff in college to have my ear and
• 58:13
  then exactly going through the growing pains of a rookie and the Jesu. You
• 58:16
  know, there's gonna be times where you feel alone and Brad and I experienced
• 58:21
  that on this show because he never shows up. And we get through it.
• 58:24
  While you do that, senator, right, I mean, we we
• 58:27
  have we have to get through it was a way to Texas. We just
• 58:34
  goes like hey, and Brad gets a little bit conscientious. He says,
• 58:37
  did we say something hoppy? Is he mad at us? And we say,
• 58:39
  listen, Brad, you just do the best that you can do today.
• 58:42
  That's that's the mindset you got to have, you know, because when
• 58:45
  you're you know, being a pro is not like being in college where you're
• 58:47
  always around your teammates. When you're a pro, that's a great point.
• 58:52
  Some guys have babies, some guys have wives, have you know, girlfriends.
• 58:57
  Like I'm on my own. You know, I'm going to the gym
• 58:59
  and I come back. I'm at my apartment. Yeah, you know,
• 59:00
  I don't have a car in Texas, So I wouldn't imagine you're being a
• 59:04
  big video game guy either. That's all I do, though. I mean
• 59:07
  the gym and I played video games with the guy sitting out there right now,
• 59:09
  who would you bring in security? Or No, that's my guy Jay.
• 59:14
  He's uh my best friend from back home. Oh he came over humming
• 59:16
  for the break. Oh cool. So, uh so you're what are you
• 59:20
  doing NBA games with him? What are you playing? What are you playing?
• 59:22
  Video games? The NBA two kye, play college duty, you play
• 59:28
  anything? When the new n cua A football game comes out, well we
• 59:30
  will probably be playing that too. Yeah yeah, I like that. To
• 59:32
  bring that back. Then you bring back college basketball. I think I heard
• 59:37
  rumors about that though. Yeah, you know how much money you could have
• 59:38
  made an n I L if it was n I L when you first started
• 59:43
  lot. You know what I think I think Brett, I think he would
• 59:47
  have been a great corner, cornerback, corner, safety, safety. I
• 59:52
  think safety because he'd want to come. We talked about that last time you
• 59:55
  were here. You were you were good. I was. I was a
• 59:59
  quarterback actually, but defensively. Defensively I was a linebacker. But I'm saying
• 1:00:05
  college level. I see him as as an oversized safety. Is a safety
• 1:00:08
  because he just I would be. I would be literally tossed at every game
• 1:00:13
  because the way they play now is so soft I don't play like when I'm
• 1:00:15
  playing football, it's taking heads off, stick your face in there. Yeah,
• 1:00:20
  that wouldn't allow that to play for quarterback. They had to. They
• 1:00:23
  had to teach me how to avoid hits because I was like, I'm just
• 1:00:27
  running through people are trying to at least. Yeah. The best food you've
• 1:00:30
  had anywhere in your pro circuit? Good one, good barbecue and lost there
• 1:00:36
  is good barbecue. Lead the Witness. You go to a Salt Lick at
• 1:00:39
  all and Round Rock you ever been there yet? That's good. I have
• 1:00:44
  Salt Lick and Saltlake Barbecue and Round Rock best food mock bring anywhere good to
• 1:00:50
  eat mock. And I went to Pluckers the chicken spot. Yeah it was
• 1:00:54
  it good. Yeah, it was my idea. I went to you know,
• 1:00:58
  yeah, there's one in San Antonio, so we went there. It's
• 1:01:00
  it's pretty good. I'll tell you what. The breakfast we had when I
• 1:01:05
  was in Mexico City was good. It was it was just you know,
• 1:01:08
  just typical breakfast, but it was it was cheriso and stuff like that.
• 1:01:12
  Yeah, they had save they had a whole spread of whatever you needed.
• 1:01:15
  But that was good for sure. You know, you know Jilie, You're
• 1:01:21
  you're pretty much eating. Yeah, you're eating whatever. You know they're not
• 1:01:23
  bringing you know, they're not bringing you know what we had here, exactly
• 1:01:27
  what you have. It's not like eating here. I mean, I could
• 1:01:30
  say the best would have had this year Subway. That's any any dealings with
• 1:01:35
  the coach Popovich, I've I've talked to pop maybe a couple of times.
• 1:01:38
  I talked to him mini camp, going in the summer league, and I
• 1:01:42
  talked to him a couple of times in training camp. Yeah, good guy.
• 1:01:46
  He's an old sage. He's seen everything fifty two times different ways.
• 1:01:51
  Yeah, he obviously he knows the game, he's experienced, He's has had
• 1:01:58
  his fair share of success, so well say so, obviously he's on his
• 1:02:00
  on his way out. Yeah, whenever he wants to wants to do that.
• 1:02:05
  I think he signed a five year extensor or something like that in the
• 1:02:07
  summer, but I don't know how much long. Grease. Yeah, coaching
• 1:02:13
  and did you like the tb T was fun? Yeah? Tv T was
• 1:02:16
  really fun. I don't know what my status is for that. It all
• 1:02:22
  depends on what you know. My feedback is here, Sure, month and
• 1:02:28
  a half that was fun experience. Yeah, yeah, it was fun.
• 1:02:31
  It's always fun putting the put in the West Virginia uniform back on and play
• 1:02:35
  in front of the fans. It Uh is definitely fun. I think if
• 1:02:38
  we we put together a squad, we could actually be competitive in that for
• 1:02:43
  sure, like make a run at it. Yeah, evil ending is fun
• 1:02:46
  way in the game. Yeah, especially if you have Puma's on. Yeah,
• 1:02:52
  you do get you get a little extra. We suggested before he came
• 1:02:55
  in Eric that I mean you could just go up the street here and put
• 1:03:00
  up put on you on your uniform, just play. I mean the rules
• 1:03:02
  are such that just you could probably get re eligibility. Yeah. I pray
• 1:03:07
  for that, you know, every day. You know. I was like,
• 1:03:08
  man, I wish I had another year in West Virginia. But I
• 1:03:12
  should just stayed and just till somebody told you ton't leave. I wish I
• 1:03:15
  could. Honestly, It's like that one kid in Miami nine years football.
• 1:03:19
  Yeah, that's insane. What Yeah right, it's nice. Nice he's got
• 1:03:22
  the he's been granted a ninth year of eligibility. There was some guys saw
• 1:03:25
  it. There's some guys saw seventh or eighth year playing basketball in college you
• 1:03:30
  know. Yeah, I've seen a seven. Yeah, a bunch of reds
• 1:03:34
  for years. Yeah, I've seen it. Well, the kid at Abandon
• 1:03:37
  at TC, Yeah, he's seven, this is seven. Yeah he's still
• 1:03:40
  there. Dude, is he playing? Yeah? He heard he heard us
• 1:03:44
  last Monday, hurt Us got double figures. Yeah, I didn't know he's
• 1:03:47
  from he's from washing that thing. I remember he said something we were playing
• 1:03:52
  at their plays. Yes, he said something about Seattle and he was from
• 1:03:54
  there. Yeah. Well the dad, the brothers, you know Charles.
• 1:03:58
  Oh wait, that's what it was his when I was at Washington. I
• 1:04:01
  want to say his dad or maybe his uncle was on the staff there.
• 1:04:04
  Okay, he was, you know, just around sports. Yeah, so
• 1:04:08
  that's where the connection was. That makes sense. Now, well here's the
• 1:04:11
  deal. So why is he Why does he come back for seventh year?
• 1:04:14
  He's not going to be in the NBA. He could go overseas or he
• 1:04:17
  could make money here, Oh seven grand a month for a year for the
• 1:04:21
  season. Add those up. Why wouldn't you go do it? I mean
• 1:04:27
  the way Niali has changed it, like you look at it on the women's
• 1:04:30
  side, for sure, like Kaylen Clark does she have another year. She
• 1:04:33
  does if she wants it, and I'm strongly advocating that she goes back and
• 1:04:36
  takes it. Yeah, she'll make it, boy, She'll She'll make two
• 1:04:40
  to three million falling off a log and then she'll make the record. Literally,
• 1:04:45
  nobody'll ever touched the record again. Like she's at what almost four thousand
• 1:04:48
  points thirty six hundred. Yeah, she comes back for another year. I
• 1:04:53
  don't know what her season totals are, but it could easily be over forty
• 1:04:57
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  Yeah? You want me to go first? A lead off with this?
• 1:06:58
  What's your story? This is pretty well often say there's always a West
• 1:07:00
  Virginia connection. Ways, Yeah, I wanted to ask about it. Like
• 1:07:03
  if you had a bunch of mountaineer fans in various places, they come,
• 1:07:06
  Yeah, plenty of times. Actually always a West Virginia connection. Also one
• 1:07:12
  of the one of the security guys at our home arena West Virginia ties.
• 1:07:17
  For no surprise. When we went to we went to Greensboro, there was
• 1:07:21
  four or five wes Virginia guys s courtse behind our bench. Went to Philly,
• 1:07:27
  there was there was like four or five in there too. Sure everywhere.
• 1:07:30
  Yeah, like they're like linte. Some of my teammates will be like,
• 1:07:34
  you know, why is the West West Virginia. I was like,
• 1:07:39
  I went to West Virginia. That's how I go. Once a mountaineer,
• 1:07:43
  always a mountaineer. But it's like a face tattoo. It ain't going away.
• 1:07:45
  No, Like there'll be random people will be another gyms in like a
• 1:07:50
  Ganital and it will be you know, West Virginia Tide or a security guy
• 1:07:54
  in another gym, and I'm like, you know, how's it going.
• 1:07:58
  It's the most amazing thing. It will follow you for the rest of your
• 1:08:00
  life. That doesn't happen to the other guys on your team, right,
• 1:08:03
  Yeah, there's no other like I don't see any other college. Hey,
• 1:08:06
  I'm from Temple showing up behind your bench wave I'll do respect the Temple.
• 1:08:11
  Of course. Of course, there's no one going to come up to you
• 1:08:13
  and go like, hey, I'm from Conway, South Carolina. You played
• 1:08:15
  at South Carolina. Never, but they're going to go hey, man,
• 1:08:18
  I'm from Somersville. Hey, I'm from Weird Like I'll hear random during the
• 1:08:23
  game life like go Mountains. I'm like, what the foul lines is here?
• 1:08:29
  And go? Perfect? You got to ignow. I hope you acknowledge
• 1:08:33
  that. You have to acknowledge that. Yeah, that's excellent. Perfect,
• 1:08:36
  Okay. So here, so along those lines, here's one for you.
• 1:08:40
  Often refer to my guy in Iowa, Tommy, remember college teammate of mine.
• 1:08:44
  Oh yeah, big listener to the show is a better athlete than you.
• 1:08:48
  So I often mentioned Tommy. Yes, Tommy was on the road here
• 1:08:53
  last week in Louisville, Kentucky. Okay, okay. He was attending the
• 1:08:58
  Louisville Farm Machinery Show. Excuse me, very popular Louisville machine farm machinery shows
• 1:09:04
  and stuff like that. Yeah, big farm machinery. Over three hundred thousand
• 1:09:08
  attendees, over the four day period. Yeah, okay, so he so
• 1:09:13
  he's engaging with different people, talked to hundreds of people throughout his time there.
• 1:09:16
  Happens to talk to one gentleman who's got a West Virginia tie, was
• 1:09:19
  from West Virginia originally, and Tommy says, oh, former college teammate,
• 1:09:25
  my good buddy of mine, used to be an assistin a d at West
• 1:09:28
  Virginia University. Now does some radio and podcasts. He tells him this.
• 1:09:31
  Tommy said that to the guys. Just random gentleman and the guy they start
• 1:09:36
  talking and has a connection to WVU kid maybe coming to WVU here in the
• 1:09:41
  near future. And they start talking and somehow three Guys comes up, said
• 1:09:45
  Tommy, seventy three guys before the game. You heard that? He goes,
• 1:09:47
  Oh, yeah, somen listens to it all the time. I listened
• 1:09:50
  to it. So three guys listener, which is a great story. Right.
• 1:09:54
  So in Louisville, three Level meets Terry Hauser. Go ahead and put
• 1:09:58
  the picture up because here's what's the most amazing. Oh. The guy says,
• 1:10:01
  well, I'm wearing a three Guys shirt right now at the farm shirt
• 1:10:04
  the farm show. He happened to have it on and runs in to Tommy
• 1:10:09
  who asked him about it, and he said, yeah, I got I
• 1:10:11
  got the shirt on right now. Wow, he's got one of the og
• 1:10:13
  shirts on school. That's the old school shirt. That's when Hoppey used to
• 1:10:16
  show off. Yeah, what's the chances an Iowa guy talking to a West
• 1:10:23
  Virginia native in Louisville and the guy's wearing a three guys shirt when he's introduced
• 1:10:28
  by like it's not like the next day he came back and said, Oh,
• 1:10:30
  I've got the shirt at the hotel. Look at my show. He's
• 1:10:32
  wearing it on, wearing it. That's one of the old times. That's
• 1:10:35
  an all time all time. That's top five all time. That is top
• 1:10:39
  five all time besides Steyaucher. Thanks Terry, appreciate you representing that is strong.
• 1:10:44
  And to his son who wrote in a text and gun read text rate,
• 1:10:46
  that's all National Farm Machinery Show in the Lewisville. We need to get
• 1:10:50
  to that someday. I should set up a booth. There's a bunch of
• 1:10:55
  listeners down there. I just set up a merchandise ten next Cathel. We
• 1:11:00
  got this booth request by this podcast in West Virginia. You appreciate Terry had
• 1:11:05
  the shirt on that is classic, Like, what are the chances there that
• 1:11:09
  you're in the conversation about the podcast with some guy from Ioway and he's got
• 1:11:12
  the shirt. Well, obviously the chances out are pretty good. Well,
• 1:11:16
  we sold about two million of those shirts, so it's probably not that different.
• 1:11:19
  Pretty good text or this is Phil Sheen. This is Phil from Kaiser
• 1:11:25
  Tony. How many different sports have you done play by play for and what
• 1:11:29
  sport would you like to call that you have not yet? Love the show
• 1:11:31
  guys, thanks for all that you do. I've done a little bit of
• 1:11:38
  all of them. I did wrestling once or twice. I did hockey once
• 1:11:44
  or twice. I think hockey's hard, Soccer, lacrosse. He's asked me,
• 1:11:48
  which I what I haven't done that I would like to do. I
• 1:11:51
  would like to do more soccer really yeah, really, yes, interesting I
• 1:11:56
  would like to do Cause there it's just done video games I have done.
• 1:12:00
  I've done the sports. I've done play by play of video games. I've
• 1:12:03
  never done swimming. I would like to do soccer, Hockey would be I
• 1:12:10
  haven't done golf. Just walk that's a good gig. That's a good gig.
• 1:12:16
  Nascar. Oh you've done racing, haven't you. I produced Motor Sports
• 1:12:21
  on rat That can't be too hard to talk about a left turn on Yeah,
• 1:12:26
  that's that's a difference. Yeah, we got I got a problem.
• 1:12:30
  We got a problem. So yeah, soccer would be the one. Hockey
• 1:12:32
  would be a combination of basketball on ice. I would like it because it's
• 1:12:39
  got a it's got a rhythm to it. It's got a boom boom boom
• 1:12:43
  boom boom booms that when it's going, well it hasn't yeah exactly, Yeah,
• 1:12:47
  it does. Uh, Texter Evan and Iowa Saint Patrick's Day popcorn.
• 1:12:53
  We've been talking about maybe doing a Saint Patrick's Well, it's I think it's
• 1:12:55
  too late. He wanted to go with a caramel green apple. Probably just
• 1:12:59
  let it right until the fourth of July. With something patriotic like firecracker firecracker
• 1:13:03
  Taki style. Remember Nico Marto had a deal with that. Nico did an
• 1:13:08
  influencer deal with talk You ever had talkies, I've had TALKI Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:13:11
  it's a little spicy. Yeah, little sticks, yeah, little sticks.
• 1:13:14
  Yeah. So yeah, that's a thought we do need to get some
• 1:13:16
  more pop. Then, Hello, gentlemen, Big Guy in Mullins rights in
• 1:13:23
  Tony. When you brought up the Hostess snowball cake, it took me back
• 1:13:27
  to six years old. My Papa would come home from the mine and say,
• 1:13:30
  I got something for you in my bucket. Every time it would be
• 1:13:32
  the same thing, one pink snowball cupcake that he had left for me to
• 1:13:38
  eat. I'm thirty eight now, Papaul has long passed, but I listened
• 1:13:42
  to the show and it takes me back. Thank you, guys for everything
• 1:13:45
  you do, which is more than you guys will ever know. Thanks for
• 1:13:48
  the memory. Big Guy in Mulleins talked about those Hostess snowballs. Snope you
• 1:13:54
  ever had those? Like like a furry marshmallow. Toppi Texter says, I'm
• 1:13:59
  here some people talk about a Big ten SEC merger. Are you all concerned?
• 1:14:06
  No, I mean the SEC and the Big Ten have already they already
• 1:14:10
  have a merger. It's called the SEC and the Big Ten. I mean
• 1:14:14
  they're out here and everyone else is playing for the next spot. So no,
• 1:14:19
  that doesn't concern me. However, I am very very interested and intrigued
• 1:14:24
  to see how this new conference, new ncaa higher level that they're going to
• 1:14:30
  create will look and obviously our biggest concern is that West Virginia is involved and
• 1:14:35
  there are they feel good about this. Steven Tennessee rights, do you know
• 1:14:43
  how they measure single game listeners or views for radio or ESPN plus. Obviously
• 1:14:47
  with the season ticket sales, the women's attendants will never rival the men's.
• 1:14:51
  But I'm just wondering, with the success of the women's season and the struggles
• 1:14:56
  of the men's, are any of the listens views close in any categories signed
• 1:15:00
  by Steve and Tennessee. I'm sure they can find out how many streams are
• 1:15:05
  set. Radio is really super hard to really get a true handle on it,
• 1:15:12
  But there won't. It won't be close. I mean the men.
• 1:15:15
  It will be just extremely high numbers always will be whether the men are good
• 1:15:21
  or bad. People watch because they're either good or bad. I would like
• 1:15:25
  to see those numbers streaming Lives League League. I'd like ESPN to releases.
• 1:15:30
  I'd like to see this girls had a good crowdy of the night though.
• 1:15:32
  Did you were you there for that one too? You went for that one?
• 1:15:35
  You went for the double header? I was there, Stevenson. He
• 1:15:39
  goes, there is that right back in town. They can play. Yeah,
• 1:15:43
  they can they They forced a lot of turnovers. Fun, dude,
• 1:15:46
  twenty five the number one team in the league. Yeah. I looked at
• 1:15:49
  the Big twelve women's standings after that and I was like, Oklahoma has been
• 1:15:54
  at the bottom of the league playing and I'm like, no, our defense
• 1:15:57
  is that good? Is that good? Legit? I got some stuff going
• 1:16:00
  on. Play the right way too, yeah, coach Stevenson, theylay the
• 1:16:02
  right way. See, he said, good, awesome. Yes, keep
• 1:16:05
  your phone handy. We're calling you for breakdowns during the rest of the season
• 1:16:09
  here, Texter, I think we're playing video games. You can call in
• 1:16:12
  once in a while and give you a breakdown. I'll take you from the
• 1:16:14
  house. Sure, spreads and scopes. See they don't eve include you in
• 1:16:17
  on these. Hope your persona. I thought there was a rule on coaches.
• 1:16:24
  West Virginia has Josh and four assistants Alex, DaShan, Damar, and
• 1:16:29
  Jordan watching the Baylor game. An entire second row seated behind the bench of
• 1:16:32
  twelve to thirteen student assistants or managers in their travel party. Is this a
• 1:16:36
  budget thing? Or someone like the ad need to approve extra analysts for football.
• 1:16:42
  Why would other major programs not adopt the same Allen and Morgantown, Now
• 1:16:47
  what was that second row? Hey, Texas Tech did the same thing,
• 1:16:50
  ay, like nineties like that they have like ninety eight. It's window dressing.
• 1:16:55
  To be quite honest with you, West Virginia. West Virginia can have
• 1:16:59
  as many as West virgin Ginia wants. There's no rule where West Virginia's the
• 1:17:02
  athletic department's telling a staff, no, you can't do this. It's a
• 1:17:06
  lot of that is just like I said, window dressing. Up numbers look
• 1:17:11
  intimidating, exactly. Yeah, everybody wearing the same color. That's exactly what
• 1:17:16
  it is. Coach Stevenson had. Yeah, So West Virginia. West Virginia's
• 1:17:20
  budget in basketball up until this year was a top ten funded budget in the
• 1:17:29
  country. So West Virginia doesn't want and nor will it want going forward.
• 1:17:33
  It's there. They've committed to winning. So that's just nothing. Sitting here
• 1:17:40
  watching the game wanting to root for Josh so bad, I don't understand anything
• 1:17:45
  he does. He waited four minutes in the second half to put Jesse back
• 1:17:49
  in the league quickly exploded to seventeen. I understand he's got three files,
• 1:17:55
  but you got to keep a player like Jesse in the game. Just my
• 1:17:59
  thoughts, Mikey from down south, that was different. That was different that
• 1:18:03
  he didn't start Jesse in the second half, and obviously he gambled and they
• 1:18:10
  hit those threes and that thing went from eight and it blew up and it
• 1:18:14
  was hard. Well, you just answered, that's what he's trying to do
• 1:18:15
  there, he's trying to gamble because he got that third foul late in the
• 1:18:18
  half. You hope you can get a couple of minutes to start the half
• 1:18:21
  where you cut the lead, not give it back. Then you've stolen a
• 1:18:25
  couple of minutes. Then you reinsert him and they just hit a couple of
• 1:18:27
  shots early. And to be quite honest with it, what they probably were
• 1:18:30
  doing was what was the plus minus when he was out at the end of
• 1:18:34
  the half. They went like, hey, guess what, we outscored him
• 1:18:38
  by two or it was even, and it was just do you just gamb
• 1:18:42
  They showed that they could either treadwater or gain a little bit, you know,
• 1:18:45
  So if you're you know, a guy's at Foucheville like that, and
• 1:18:46
  he's a he's a key player. You know, you're trying to steal some
• 1:18:49
  maybe a first media, maybe treadwater for the first media. And so that's
• 1:18:55
  the whole Top Press is behind it. Tony. It was the tea was
• 1:18:58
  he have increased his back on that. The tea was the result of multiple
• 1:19:04
  calls that he thought he was getting screwed on, and he just kept getting
• 1:19:09
  more and more frustrated. And Jesse's getting whacked and knocked down and they're not
• 1:19:13
  getting anything. And they go back down there and they call went against West
• 1:19:15
  Virginia. I used the analogy old school coffee pot where it's got a percolator
• 1:19:21
  and you know it's warming, it doesn't percolate until and then finally it starts
• 1:19:25
  to go into that little glass thing on top of the coffee pot. That's
• 1:19:28
  what he did. It was coming well, it was whistling for a couple
• 1:19:30
  of minutes before they actually teat him. He was saying to him, go
• 1:19:33
  ahead and get I'm gonna keep going, so you might as well give me
• 1:19:35
  one. Here he was out at mid court. He was getting that Jerry
• 1:19:39
  collared the veteran official Jerry Pollard, the veteran official on that crew, did
• 1:19:44
  a really nice piece of officiating because he respects Josh, he likes Josh.
• 1:19:49
  And when the technical happened and Josh was still ready to keep going, and
• 1:19:56
  Jerry came over and gave him the veteran official wrap around the hips and walk
• 1:20:02
  him back. Yeah, yeah, And and he did a really nice job
• 1:20:06
  because it wasn't Jerry that Josh was mad at. It was Marquise Pettigrew.
• 1:20:13
  And so Jerry did the thing to do with Josh. Let's chill, let's
• 1:20:18
  not leave, let's be good. And Jerry did a great job of tempering
• 1:20:24
  him the entire game. Because yeah, as I've said before, this team's
• 1:20:30
  not getting any calls. This not this staf's not getting any calls. This
• 1:20:35
  team's not getting any calls. You can mark that down in ink. You
• 1:20:41
  gotta put pressure on the rim, you know what I mean. So it's
• 1:20:44
  and also it's if you're just gonna you know, if you're giving up just
• 1:20:47
  numerous opportunities at the rim, and it's like you're going to get the natural
• 1:20:51
  that team is not going to put any fights. So it's you know,
• 1:20:54
  they're not playing hard, they're not really getting the calls. They might not
• 1:20:58
  be getting fold because they're not playing Alredy. That's how it looks. So
• 1:21:00
  it's yep, it's tough. And you got an introm coach and they're gonna
• 1:21:03
  take and they're gonna take the veteran coach and they're going to make sure he
• 1:21:06
  gets taken care of before they take care of the interroim coach. As simple
• 1:21:09
  as that. Not giving you any breaks. Yeah, hello Alert Right at
• 1:21:15
  the end of the game, text I love you guys. I anticipate every
• 1:21:18
  episode. Honestly, you guys keep me sane during this season. I have
• 1:21:21
  to admit, first time all year I turned off the game. I hope
• 1:21:26
  we get back to our winning ways soon because a lot of us hang on
• 1:21:28
  every play of West Virginia Sports. I believe in the program, I believe
• 1:21:30
  in Ren Baker, honestly believe the best is yet to come. As they
• 1:21:33
  say, the darkest hours are before the dawn. So I hope the Big
• 1:21:38
  twelve relishes these wins will be back sooner than expected. Ps. Episode eight
• 1:21:42
  hundred is a real thing. PSS how about a shirt that says, excuse
• 1:21:46
  me, we could probably do that. You need a question mark at the
• 1:21:50
  end of that Yeah, yeah, Texter, immediate postgame text. I had
• 1:21:56
  an alternate spread on the game West Virginia plus twelve and a half. So
• 1:22:00
  I feel the dagger deep in my bean. This team will unfortunately go down
• 1:22:04
  as the worst in decades. I think it's finally fair to start the conversation
• 1:22:09
  on who will we look at possibly to hire. I'm glad thanks for having
• 1:22:13
  us. Will get a lot of use by the baseball team. Signed by
• 1:22:15
  John Squid, Calamari Lexington, Kentucky PS Music's in the works, the Noah's
• 1:22:24
  Three at the end of the game. Yeah, what was all that about?
• 1:22:27
  That mattered for a lot of people. What do you mean the live
• 1:22:30
  second half line came into play right there. It came right down to that
• 1:22:33
  shot. If that shot falls and you had a West Virginia ticket, you
• 1:22:36
  cashed it missed. If you had the Baylor ticket, you cashed. While
• 1:22:45
  play to win, play to lose. While Texter, with today being evidence
• 1:22:48
  of two programs heading in different directions, are you starting to sense a shift
• 1:22:54
  of everyone's attention toward the women's team. Having been to two women's games versus
• 1:22:59
  zero's men's games this season, My Husshold is feeling this. Go Mountaineers,
• 1:23:03
  It's time for a thanks for having us night in Manhattan. Signed by Mike
• 1:23:08
  from Meadowbrook. I don't think it's a zero some game. I think I
• 1:23:11
  think that there are people who have warmed and embraced the women's team because having
• 1:23:15
  great success. Yeah you can, you can. You can enjoy both.
• 1:23:19
  Yeah, both, both's going to happen. If you want to jump ahead
• 1:23:23
  in the future, both's going to happen. West Virginia's men's team is going
• 1:23:26
  to be really good again and the women's team is going to be really good.
• 1:23:30
  Both can happen, and they will. But they're having This women's team
• 1:23:32
  is having because the new coach. There was no expectation, first year head
• 1:23:36
  coach, and they're really exceeding expectations year. He's doing a really good job.
• 1:23:42
  It just so happens to be that he's doing a very good job at
• 1:23:45
  a time where the men's basketball program has had all times of adversity. And
• 1:23:48
  yes, I've stacked against them all the adversities, and so it's like,
• 1:23:51
  you know, I mean this, the women's team is very successful right now
• 1:23:55
  and the men's team is trying to dig themselves out of a hole that was
• 1:23:59
  I don't know, Doug with a let me ask you this. That's a
• 1:24:00
  good point. I want to ask you this. So we didn't get into
• 1:24:02
  this when we were chatting. So Josh takes over in June the roster,
• 1:24:11
  jab steps in the portal, out of the portal. Some dudes leave,
• 1:24:15
  some guys. You gotta go get guys. Curse suspended nine Ray Kwan Noah
• 1:24:20
  not eligible until game ten. When that happens exactly that night, Jesse goes
• 1:24:28
  out for six weeks with a wrist. So give me your take as we
• 1:24:31
  talk about building a team, chemistry rise, trying to get an identity,
• 1:24:35
  trying to literally impossible. Like if you're you're talking about your starting point,
• 1:24:40
  your guards starting two, guarding, you're starting center, all being out two
• 1:24:45
  at the same time those guys come back, and then your your front court
• 1:24:48
  vocal piece goes out for six weeks, Like, how do you expect to
• 1:24:51
  build chemistry if I'm playing and you're sitting down and then you're playing it,
• 1:24:55
  I'm sitting down. There's only one one way to build chemistry, and that's
• 1:24:58
  played together. You know, I I don't know what they're I don't know
• 1:25:00
  when everybody got to town in the off season, but playing pickup helps in
• 1:25:06
  the in the summer, you know me, you get tennessees, you understand
• 1:25:10
  what guys like to do, and that's when you know your personalities can either
• 1:25:14
  mess or you can find the ones you collide with and try and unite those,
• 1:25:16
  you know. So that's one thing I loved about when I was here
• 1:25:20
  was obviously we were in a gym five days a week, probably six seven
• 1:25:25
  days a week, but on you know, on the weekends you're playing pickup
• 1:25:28
  and during the week you're playing pick up. It's just how the schedule goes.
• 1:25:30
  Obviously, I don't know how the turnover was because there was so much
• 1:25:31
  going on. But when it comes to building chemistry, this this year was
• 1:25:36
  borderline impossible. And you can't defend because you don't you just yeah, I
• 1:25:42
  mean it's hard to defend when you when you obviously don't have that chemistry and
• 1:25:45
  you don't have that communication and trust. But also is it comes down to
• 1:25:49
  your you know, how bad do you want to stop the other team from
• 1:25:51
  scoring? You know what I mean? If you're one on one, you
• 1:25:54
  don't need anybody else helping you. You know that's that's your yard guard to
• 1:25:57
  yard yep text. We took an expedition cruise from Argentina through the Drake Passage,
• 1:26:05
  five days around and on Antarctica, and then the two days back across
• 1:26:10
  the Drake Passage and there they are an amazing experience. And dues brought the
• 1:26:14
  West Virginia flag top. There it is Antarctica. You guys are awesome.
• 1:26:21
  Yes, there are penguins. If you look back, there's a there's a
• 1:26:28
  penguin to the left, right behind the ski pole. Then go behind that
• 1:26:31
  near the trees. There's just a bunch of penguins. I mean, three
• 1:26:38
  guys, three guys everywhere. That's one place I'll probably never go. Well,
• 1:26:42
  you don't know, it's too color for you. Enough money to play
• 1:26:45
  there, you go? Yeah, right, got a price everywhere? Enough
• 1:26:49
  you go play for the penguins there the Antarctica penguins to sign you a nice
• 1:26:55
  deal. All the hot COKEO you want. You can go to Argentina and
• 1:26:57
  have a road game to Antarctica. You're right, Drake hoppy, Are you
• 1:27:00
  familiar with Drake passages? Southern Nets? When you go underneath you knew that
• 1:27:04
  horn of South America. You weren't there, though, I thought he started
• 1:27:08
  a story like that once on here. I was on a bus in the
• 1:27:10
  Drake Passage. That was somewhere else he was. Where'd you say you were?
• 1:27:14
  You were? You were on a busways in Ecuador, in Ecuador World.
• 1:27:18
  Yeah, that's why he's never here. Three guys. I generally love
• 1:27:23
  spreads on stats, but such nuanced deep analysis is not necessary for this team.
• 1:27:29
  They need to quit throwing the ball to the guys with different colored shirts
• 1:27:31
  on and play defense until that happens. The percentage of shots at the right
• 1:27:36
  side of the rim by a left handed player whose shoe is on tie with
• 1:27:40
  ten seconds or less on the play clock really does not matter. By the
• 1:27:44
  way, the Lady Mountaineers are a lot of fun to watch. Thank you,
• 1:27:46
  Robin Atlanta. In broad point of clarification, it's four seconds or less.
• 1:27:50
  I don't want ten seconds or less. I do four seconds less.
• 1:27:54
  Thank you for listening. In defensive bread, there are multiple levels there.
• 1:27:59
  There's a h O my obvious observations, obvious observations, and then there's Brad's
• 1:28:04
  statistical observations, which I think are extremely relevant to to how these games go
• 1:28:11
  and I guarantee you that. Eric, And when he prepares for a game
• 1:28:15
  and they got the scouting report, they see some of the same data that
• 1:28:18
  Brad looks at and say, Okay, we got to watch out. This
• 1:28:20
  guy's in the corner. Because he makes this, he's got an on scouting
• 1:28:24
  report, he gets it on scout, and then when he gets into coaching
• 1:28:27
  down the road, he's going to be extremely good. I do think what
• 1:28:30
  Rob was saying there though, is the point we made in the beginning.
• 1:28:32
  It's turnovers and then that defensive stat we said, I mean point taking.
• 1:28:35
  We get it. Yeah, I know what he's saying. Will bounce passes
• 1:28:39
  on the perimeter, oh mind, that is dunks on the other end.
• 1:28:42
  Every time soft ass passes. Soft ass passes, soft ass passes make me
• 1:28:46
  want to take my head. If you if you're trying to if you're trying
• 1:28:49
  to feed the high post from the three point line and you bounce it,
• 1:28:54
  yeah you should be to go sit down. That's going the other way,
• 1:28:58
  horn it, that's going you're coming out. How about how about streaking down
• 1:29:02
  the court behind the back pass with three guys around you. That's all right,
• 1:29:06
  come out too. But also it's like. Another thing is if you're
• 1:29:09
  gonna bounce past it on the premier and they're you know, they're going out
• 1:29:12
  on the other end, don't let them just drop it into the net.
• 1:29:14
  You know what I mean. I'm putting you on your ass exactly. Thank
• 1:29:17
  you. Just put somebody on their as exactly. Whack them if you get
• 1:29:20
  here, you got five of them, get your money's work. Don't let
• 1:29:24
  them score, that's right. Just bring it down on the arms, right,
• 1:29:27
  not intentionally, at least get the game going a little bit hip you
• 1:29:30
  like, I'm going out with the fight at least. Thank you. Hey,
• 1:29:33
  guys, Brian from Williamstown here, I think Hoppy has converted me.
• 1:29:38
  I'm on my way home from a conference in New Orleans, Yes, a
• 1:29:41
  conference during Marty Gras. Marty Gras was just as awesome and insane as anyone
• 1:29:45
  would expect. I also got to hold a baby alligator, which was pretty
• 1:29:48
  awesome. Anyway. The point of the text is that since yesterday I've had
• 1:29:53
  a nasty cold and my nose is running like a faucet. I'm sitting here
• 1:29:57
  in the Charlotte Airport and all and all I can think is, man,
• 1:30:00
  I wish I had a handkerchief. I can't stop blowing my nose, and
• 1:30:04
  I can't keep finding tissues or paper tiles from the restroom. Hoppy is stuck
• 1:30:09
  in my head. To the point I had the text, I'm pretty sure
• 1:30:12
  I'm gonna be getting one when I get home. I've seen the light.
• 1:30:15
  So he's gonna buy a handkerchief because you welcome in. Eric. Here's the
• 1:30:17
  problem. Use a handkerchief? Do you know my dad does? Though?
• 1:30:21
  That's why hold your dad he's he's in his sixties. I see him empty
• 1:30:26
  his face and put it. Yeah, preach, sick, preach. Yeah,
• 1:30:30
  you just got to snap rocket pocket and then you go down there and
• 1:30:33
  grab it. You. That's what I was going to say to Brian if
• 1:30:38
  he's having problems. And it continued, the thing is gonna get pretty filled
• 1:30:41
  up. Like how many were just spot after it? Thank you? Thank
• 1:30:45
  you? A kid? Put it away? Usual that was on me now.
• 1:30:56
  But the thing I got out of that was that might be a T
• 1:30:59
  shirt. He said, empty his face face, Hey, give me your
• 1:31:03
  dad's info. He and I need to connect. Oh hanky, guys,
• 1:31:09
  yeah, hey, three guys. As a dad with a nine year old
• 1:31:12
  girl who now loves watching women's basketball on TV thanks to Caitlyn Clark. I
• 1:31:16
  have this question, with everything that Caitlyn has done for women's hoops, can
• 1:31:20
  and how does wv's women's basketball benefit from the popularity of what's going on in
• 1:31:26
  women's basketball right now? Signed by Andy and Hurricane Well, I mean,
• 1:31:31
  hopefully it sparks a young girl to start playing the game because she thinks Caitlyn
• 1:31:35
  Clark's quick cool. Let me tell you something, West Virginia has had some
• 1:31:40
  unbelievable women's basketball players in its history. Yes, Susan Robinson Kodak All American
• 1:31:47
  from Doddridge County, Vicky Bullet All American professional player as well. I mean
• 1:31:54
  that just begins, and the sister's Bulger Bulger Sisters, Rosemary Kasork, Rosemary
• 1:32:00
  Casor. I mean, well, here's the thing. Alliance from Andy as
• 1:32:03
  someone that also has a nine year old that loves watching not only Caitlin Clark,
• 1:32:08
  but loves this particular West Virginia team. This staff and this group of
• 1:32:13
  kids is elite with outreach into the community with the players. The players are
• 1:32:17
  great with the young kids. We've been to multiple camps clinics over there.
• 1:32:20
  They do a tremendous job. Alexis hornbackle Renee Montgomery, I mean, are
• 1:32:26
  you Kidney unbelievable pros, Yes, Mary Ostrosky Parkersburg, unbelievable pros through the
• 1:32:32
  years, great college players, texters, Three guys, Hello, Tony,
• 1:32:36
  please yell it. Jeez, hello, there you go. Nothing like a
• 1:32:43
  nice Sunday morning with amazing coffee. Shout out to my wife who also said
• 1:32:46
  there must be chocolate as part of this roasting process, and you know what,
• 1:32:49
  she's right. Also note the jam jar, thanks Tony. Definitely a
• 1:32:55
  nice option top. He doesn't even know what we're talking about here. Also,
• 1:32:57
  for those who prefer to drink their coffee on the hotter side, the
• 1:33:00
  jam jar is noteworthy as you just spend smaller quantities out of the larger thermost.
• 1:33:04
  I love the show. Three guys, Doc he went there. He
• 1:33:08
  got a nice system going right there. That's a lot going on. That
• 1:33:11
  is a pour over. Looks like he's got a com x there, one
• 1:33:15
  of the great coffee brews. And you know what, hats hey, Senator,
• 1:33:18
  I ain't no, that ain't no fourteen ounce bag, My boy,
• 1:33:21
  big, that's a big bag. That's a five pounds bag. Right there.
• 1:33:24
  Now, that's our coffee there, good Davidson, that's the game day
• 1:33:27
  It's called game day grind. You missed the whole Mason jar thing. You
• 1:33:30
  drink coffee, came in a thermost coffee and had like a my apartment coffee
• 1:33:35
  like a little mini Mason jar. If I think you just took it,
• 1:33:40
  you know the candle, we'll get you put a candle in those things.
• 1:33:42
  Yea took it out and uses a coffee game day grind. But you don't
• 1:33:45
  need to worry about. We'll get you some. For appearance for a period
• 1:33:48
  on the show. He drink coffee. He drinks coffee. You got a
• 1:33:51
  grind? I got all that grinder. It's from He's from Washington State.
• 1:33:56
  They drink off from the coffee world. All right, we'll get you some,
• 1:34:00
  gotcha, uh Texter, Hey guys, I'm disappointed the outcome of the
• 1:34:03
  men's team. I really thought the addition of the players from the Portal would
• 1:34:06
  help us win a lot more than it's turned out to be. Since Edwards
• 1:34:10
  has come back from his injury, the world champion Mountaineers have won one game,
• 1:34:14
  lost five. I'm not saying replace him, but maybe utilize a different
• 1:34:17
  lineup than we have out there now? Could we play two forwards with edwards?
• 1:34:21
  Like maybe some Somnick and Harris for guards? I like creasea la la
• 1:34:27
  la la la la la. You want different lineup? Yeah? Hot Rod
• 1:34:29
  in wood Ridge, Virginia. H he please protect the balls, pro good
• 1:34:32
  passes, not lazy ones. Maybe they should watch how the West Virginia women's
• 1:34:36
  team plays. Keep up the good work. Yeah, turnovers, thank you,
• 1:34:42
  high right scopes and spreads. Not even going to acknowledge the Dean doubts.
• 1:34:46
  Seriously, he's on the program today. Ouch. Yeah, but Stevenson's
• 1:34:53
  here. He's been here, He's been here more than hoppy hass. I'm
• 1:34:57
  watching the Islanders and the Rangers hockey game, and the sounds of Sean McDonough.
• 1:35:02
  The alternative throwback sweaters make me ponder why West Virginia football has never honored
• 1:35:08
  the original flying w VU uniforms from the eighties. Last year's game honoring coach
• 1:35:13
  Neilan would have been a great opportunity. Do you think this could be a
• 1:35:15
  possibility in the future. Was there a different WV I think he's going.
• 1:35:19
  He said what he's doing for like stripes on the pants we're big back on
• 1:35:24
  that. I think there should always be one, at least one game where
• 1:35:26
  basketball, football, any sports should honor a throwback uniform. Another throwback.
• 1:35:30
  I think so too. I think football's used the really throwback, not from
• 1:35:33
  the eighties, but the white home. I think that's good. Eric,
• 1:35:35
  and I think that you should wear those really short shorts throwback. I'm not
• 1:35:40
  with you know, I'm not against that. Okay. I wear my shorts
• 1:35:43
  pretty short, now, is it not? You know? Short? What
• 1:35:45
  about would you like to wear super long ones? Super long ones? I
• 1:35:48
  can't do that if it's for one game. Maybe clamors. They're like clamors,
• 1:35:53
  Yeah, you can't do that because you know this is not it doctor
• 1:35:57
  Andy and Romney. Another tough game from your men's team. On a positive
• 1:36:00
  note, Coach Kellogg and the women's team got a big win over the Sooners.
• 1:36:04
  Oh they did Okay. It was fun listening to Sean McDonough called the
• 1:36:10
  Stadium Hockey Series this weekend. I always think of Tony's impersonations of Sean,
• 1:36:15
  which gives me a laugh. Sean, a fine broadcaster, apparently, spent
• 1:36:20
  the weekend calling the Outdoors Series in the NHL, which is a wonderful franchise
• 1:36:26
  in itself, going back to the days of Ken Dryden, Jacques Lemaire and
• 1:36:33
  many others. Brad's rainman like statistical analysis continues to amaze. Keep up the
• 1:36:40
  good works. Your episodes have gotten me through many marathon training runs. Thanks
• 1:36:44
  for all that you do. Eric. How far could you run? Uh?
• 1:36:48
  Straight or coumple curves? Uh? Yeah, just like you are you.
• 1:36:54
  Could you ever be a track guy? I don't know, man.
• 1:36:57
  I did track a little bit in elementary school of midle school, and it's
• 1:37:00
  just it wasn't for me. But I mean my off season, I'll run
• 1:37:02
  like five miles you will. What would you do during a game here?
• 1:37:05
  Did you that was tracked? Right? Would you be every bit of a
• 1:37:09
  game three to five five or five? Four to five five plus? Yeah?
• 1:37:13
  It's it's just crazy to bring this up because Sean Sean Brown out there,
• 1:37:18
  yeah, he he said when I was here, he brought up something.
• 1:37:21
  He was like, you, you know, your load's pretty you know,
• 1:37:24
  pretty high right now. I was like, what is he He was
• 1:37:26
  like, You're running like eight miles a game. And I'm like, so
• 1:37:28
  that had to be in the stretch where I was you know, I was
• 1:37:30
  on fires, you know, I was playing a lot and eight miles a
• 1:37:32
  game. I was like, it doesn't with the G League team. He
• 1:37:34
  was talking, Oh no, no, when he was here. Yeah,
• 1:37:36
  yeah, when I was here, it doesn't feel like that out there.
• 1:37:40
  But you know, just walking and you know, going side to side and
• 1:37:43
  then spreading ninety feet or ninety four feet and probably had more than most of
• 1:37:46
  too, because you've moved without the ball a lot. I mean, it's
• 1:37:47
  not like you're just standing in a spot. Yeah, it's gotta be in
• 1:37:50
  shape. Man, What was your top what's your top speed? You ever
• 1:37:54
  heard? Oh, I have no idea. I haven't been on a treadmille
• 1:37:57
  where it's you know, it's in a game like a Johann ever come to
• 1:38:00
  you and say, hey, you hit out at eighteen nineteen. I feel
• 1:38:05
  like I got faster though this year, because there's times Robbie running on the
• 1:38:08
  court and I'm like, you know, the game's just faster, you know,
• 1:38:10
  as you're kind of eating, have to adapt. So I was there
• 1:38:13
  has been a couple times I got up to floor I was like, damn,
• 1:38:15
  I'm flying, Like that's a new gear. It's definitely a New Year
• 1:38:20
  Texter Charlie from mid Lothian, this is probably not the best day to bring
• 1:38:27
  the substance. Hoppy will likely be there, but if he continues to miss
• 1:38:30
  the podcast, I was wondering, what are the chances of perhaps me making
• 1:38:33
  a cameo appearance as a PWO if given the opportunity. I know it probably
• 1:38:41
  won't happen, but as Professor Vinnie wants advice, you need to make your
• 1:38:44
  text unique. PS. If Mike and his buddy got excited over Duce posterizing
• 1:38:49
  that Baylor player, you know they've done it again. So that's really funny
• 1:38:53
  if you list, if you follow that Mike and his buddy got excited over
• 1:38:57
  Duce posterizing that Baylor place. So we had two dudes last week watched the
• 1:39:01
  Texas game here in Morgantown and they went and watched it on TV. But
• 1:39:06
  they they actually watched the first game of the year at the Coliseum and didn't
• 1:39:12
  realize that we were playing in Austin until the kit guy went home that night
• 1:39:15
  and told his dead Hey, that was a great win by the Mountaineers,
• 1:39:17
  and the dad said, what are you talking about? Him? Yeah,
• 1:39:19
  he was. He was watching the rerun. They watched the game from the
• 1:39:21
  first game, So what he was saying was his experience was actually very This
• 1:39:28
  is actually very funny because his ps is if Mike and his buddy got excited
• 1:39:31
  over Deuce posterizing the Baylor player, you know they've done it again. So
• 1:39:36
  if he was watching last game for a couple of years, that was very
• 1:39:40
  funny. Charlie. And as far as taking over for Hoppy, he doesn't
• 1:39:45
  show up much. Hello Spread, Charlie, that sent us those reces things
• 1:39:50
  that were he did he didn't. We crushed. Thank you, Charlie.
• 1:39:56
  Hello Spread Scopes and hip Hoppy load management. Congratulate since the wv's men's soccer
• 1:40:00
  team they lined up beat the USL's Pittsburgh Riverhounds yesterday in an exhibition game.
• 1:40:08
  Mighty impressive to beat a pro team in the first game in two months.
• 1:40:11
  Not many sports you get the opportunity to do that, That's true. Good
• 1:40:15
  luck to all the candidates in the coming cheer off for the next Mountaineer.
• 1:40:17
  It takes place Tuesday night. They all look capable. The last few Mountaineers
• 1:40:21
  have all elevated the position signed by Joe and Charleston, and lastly, Tony
• 1:40:26
  and Brad just wanted to say thanks for hanging out with us last night.
• 1:40:29
  Our army of kids invaded the floor after the Baylor game. The kids had
• 1:40:31
  a blast and it was great to finally meet you guys in person. Thanks
• 1:40:35
  for having us. You guys are awesome from all of us at Landon's Library.
• 1:40:39
  Remember they're bringing all those kids. Was fantastic, you know, the
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  signal call over them. Jed Drenning was up there with that. Talked to
• 1:40:45
  Jed before the game and then down on floor. Yeah, he was up
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  there and with his young guy and that was fantastic. All right, wad
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  that too exactly? You weren't there. Oh, I gave your regrets.
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  Thank you. What's happy attendant? What's his attendance? Thirty three percent?
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  About thirty three Yeah, he shows up about as much as our defense.
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  No comment, I know, just saying, be nice to get the thing
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  back. Listen, dude, so when do you uh you go back?
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  When I fly out Wednesday morning to Oklahoma City. We got five five days
• 1:41:25
  there and then uh really, let me not lie, let me make sure.
• 1:41:29
  So you're just gonna house up in Oklahoma City, not the that's the
• 1:41:32
  most ideal place to house up. But that's all respect. I'll due respect.
• 1:41:35
  Yeah that No, they got a good district there, they got that.
• 1:41:39
  They got a district there, a nice little area. Yeah, you
• 1:41:41
  know, it's good a little I've been, Okay, see a couple times
• 1:41:43
  when I've played for which tag. You know, we played Oklahoma and it's
• 1:41:47
  good. A little city, but we're there. We're there twenty second through
• 1:41:53
  the twenty sixth a couple of games, and then come home and then we
• 1:41:58
  were pretty much home for the month of March. We end on a little
• 1:42:00
  road trip, but for about the March pre much in Texas well. Buddy,
• 1:42:04
  I think this coming back to Morgantown is going to clear your mind.
• 1:42:06
  Whatever opportunity you have, you just make it full advantage, make yourself better
• 1:42:11
  every day. You'll be fine. That's the plan. Yeah, it was
• 1:42:14
  definitely the plan. And we're rooting for you and watch them absolutely. Coach
• 1:42:16
  Stevenson in the house, in the house, three guys before the game.
• 1:42:20
  I always come back, always, always. We're back on Thursday, we'll
• 1:42:26
  recap UCF and we'll preview the two game road trip at Iowa State Saturday at
• 1:42:32
  Kansas State on next Monday. In the last two weeks. Coach Stevenson has
• 1:42:39
  been in as many shows as I have. I know you don't tell us,
• 1:42:43
  apparently the listeners. I'll tell you one thing. Iowa State can play,
• 1:42:47
  can't they? Yeah? Yeah, they're good man. Big one tonight
• 1:42:49
  as we record this on Monday, Houston and Iowa State. Yeah, top
• 1:42:55
  ten minutes. You put twenty three up against Iowa State last year. They
• 1:42:59
  don't like me over there in Hilton, I don't. They don't appreciate me.
• 1:43:01
  Hilton Magic did in effect understand why that was magic going on over there?
• 1:43:04
  He drew up the football play to get the ball and bound. That
• 1:43:08
  was great? You did you? Yeah? We talked, yeah, yeah,
• 1:43:14
  well you think what do you think we're saying? You looked at me
• 1:43:17
  like like I was speaking a different language, and he said, just going,
• 1:43:20
  I grabbed the I got it. Just what you What did you say
• 1:43:24
  to the bench of Iowa State? What did you say to them when when
• 1:43:28
  at any time, I'm sure you said something. A lot of explicits.
• 1:43:30
  We know that a lot of explicit and explicit, a lot of explicit.
• 1:43:34
  We know that we know that you know why going to win. They deserve
• 1:43:43
  it to win. That's a rowdy place, so you got to take the
• 1:43:45
  car very Mountaineer sque very they come to play below. But yeah, yeah,
• 1:43:51
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