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🎪 Death of the Pastor’s Wife: We Covered the Mica Miller Case—Now Netflix Has Questions | True Crime Documentary Breakdown · This Is My Circus

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  I'm Stephanie.
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  I'm Meredith.
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  And welcome to This Is My Circus.
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  Yeah, it is.
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  It's documentary time.
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  Yes, it is.
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  What are we- We are doing Death of the Pastor's Wife on Netflix.
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  Yes.
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  I know you have a lot to say.
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  I have a lot to say.
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  Yes.
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  So I'm obsessed with this case.
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  Right.
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  So I am really going to try to limit what we talk about to what's in this documentary.
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  Okay.
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  But before we dive in,, I just want to say this resonates with me so much.
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  It does, it really does.
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  So I'm a Christian.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  I was raised in church.
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  Right.
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  I loved going to church.
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  Okay.
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  Like, I enjoyed, like therapeutic, loved the worship and I like to learn, I like history teaching, and I just felt the peace.
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  But also socially, that's where all my friends were from like the majority.
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  Yeah.
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  From the time I was middle school to like 21.
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  Right.
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  Hung out with them all the time.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And I could see myself in this church.
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  Okay.
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  And I could see myself even in this church hearing some of the things that happened and just being like,"He's a man of God.
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  It's okay," kind of.
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  And again, I was young.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  But I am just- Whatever.
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  Yeah.
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  This one just really hit home for me.
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  Okay.
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  So three episodes.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  The first one is called A Note From Your Pastor.
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  Right.
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  You wanna start us off?
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  I think I'm gonna let you take the lead on this one.
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  I'll get to take the lead.
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  Okay.
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  Yeah,'cause you have lots to say and, and- I do have a lot to say, so just jump in and we'll, we'll chat as we go.
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  Okay..
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  Do the recap, and if you had, key players- Mm If you don't.
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  Okay.
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  We'll go through them as we go.
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  Okay.
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  Micah Miller was a talented singer and deeply religious woman from Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.
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  She met charismatic pastor John Paul Miller when she was only 13 years old attending his church.
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  Ew.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Years later, after Micah was married to someone else and JP was married with children, Micah began working as JP's assistant.
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  The relationship eventually became an affair.
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  Both marriages ended, and Micah and JP married in 2017.
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  What appeared publicly to be this powerful church couple became, according to Micah's family, friends, journals, text messages, and allegations later made by federal prosecutors, a relationship involving coercive control, sexual pressure, financial control, stalking, and harassment.
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  On April 25th, 2024, JP was served divorce papers.
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  Two days later, April 27th, Micah was found dead in Lumber River State Park in North Carolina.
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  She was 30.
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  Authorities have ruled her death a suicide.
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  Her family has never believed the story ends there.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Okay.
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  So let's start, we start with the 911 call.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  We start hearing clips of, the 911 call where she is, she being Micah, is calling and asking the operator if she can trace where she is.
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  And the operator's like, you know,"What's going on?" And they have this certain script they have to follow to try to figure out what's going on before they can, get to the meat of the problem.
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  So she's like,"Yeah, well, you know, you don't know where you are?" And Micah's like,"Well, I just want somebody to be able to find my body and- yeah, crazy Yeah Crazy.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  But the operator's real patient and tells her, just to,"Hang on, let me try to find you," and anyway, so that's how we start.
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  So we kinda know how this is gonna go.
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  She says she's going to...
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  And trigger warning, for- Everything religious trauma, and suicide, and all the things.
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  Everything.
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  Yeah.
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  Every- yeah, literally.
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  She says she's gonna kill herself.
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  Right.
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  So, after we hear that call, we start getting clips of her family talking.
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  We see the preacher in the pulpit, and we just start seeing clips of news stories about this whole situation that we're gonna learn about, TikTokers.
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  We have cellphone footage, and we have Micah also saying,"He's gonna put a bullet in my head and tell everybody that I killed myself." We also see Micah singing in church.
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  We see her, just being with her friends and her family.
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  We see her as a teenager in this church when she is 13-ish, and he is there as the pastor.
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  Now, mind you, she's 13, and at this time he would've been 28.
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  There's a 15-year age gap there.
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  So gross.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Very gross.
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  So we start to meet her family.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Micah had six siblings, and, Could you imagine?
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  No.
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  Oh, my God.
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  And I feel like there was only the one boy.
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  Yeah.
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  Crazy pants.
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  there was four of us, and it was crazy.
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  I could- I know it's a lot never imagine.
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  Two more, plus two.
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  Oh, my gosh.
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  Yeah, yeah.
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  So Micah grew up, basically in Kansas, and then her family moved to Myrtle Beach.
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  Her parents had divorced.
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  Her mom's remarried.
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  And they're living it up there.
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  They found Solid Rock Church as soon as they got there.
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  That's kinda like, when you're in that religious culture like that, that's the first thing you do, is you find a church.
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  Right.
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  And I can remember being on vacation out of town and being like,"We gotta go to church today.
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  Let's find a church." Yeah.
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  I'm telling you, I'm telling you, I can so relate to this.
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  It's crazy, I know.
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  It's crazy.
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  See, I walk in and start sweating.
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  Well, I mean, I actually, I went to Catholic school.
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  Yeah.
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  That ruined me.
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  Well, and that- Right that's, that's religious trauma.
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  Like, I think a lot of it is true.
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  Yeah.
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  and let me be clear when I say, my mom went to this church.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  But she did not make me go to church.
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  Like I said, I was, growing up, those were my people.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And for a very long time.
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  So anyway- So crazy.
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  But anyway, so she's 13.
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  He's 15 years older, at 28, and he's married at this point, and he's the pastor of Solid Rock Church.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Her mom and her stepdad at this point split, and Micah takes it really hard.
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  Right.
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  Have to kinda move around.
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  They're living in a hotel at one point.
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  Well, Micah turns to her faith.
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  She's, I think she's 16 at this point.
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  She turns to her faith and then just really dives into the church- Right culture.
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  And at this point, JP is her pastor, her spiritual authority- Mm-hmm her mentor, and her boss.
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  So he is- Crazy.
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  He's- such a power play He is every source of leadership to her- Mm-hmm basically that you could think of.
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  Yeah.
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  So at 16 she starts, she's the worship leader.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And that's more than just, like, leading singing.
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  That's, you know, really setting the tone for the service and, just kind of being sensitive to when you feel like God is asking people to do things.
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  It's a pretty big honor and responsibility.
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  Right.
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  And I can't see that the people that have been there for however long I can't see them being very happy about it.
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  Not that they said anything about that in the documentary- Right.
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  No just, the vibe was, like- Well, a lot of times when you go to new churches, and it's, like this too with me with younger generations.
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  Older generations look like,"What?
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  She's too young." So I mean, it's...
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  And things change, and that's not always easy to do, so with now we got this young girl doing it.
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  I get it.
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  There was probably a lot of things going on but she was very talented.
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  The whole family was musical.
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  Yeah.
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  And she was, she was really, really good.
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  Now- Yeah didn't she look very similar to- 100% JP's wife?
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  So Alli- Yes was his first wife.
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  Yes.
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  And actually, so when I tell you I'm obsessed, I've watched this documentary several times.
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  And I did not realize the first time that I watched it that I was looking at pictures of Alli, because he, or because Alli and Micah look so similar.
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  Yeah.
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  The dark hair, the face shape, the dark eyes.
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  It didn't click with me that, all this is when Micah was still 13.
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  Yeah.
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  But just so similar.
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  Yeah.
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  So similar.
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  Yeah.
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  It's about this time that we start to hear, you know, Micah's 16 years old.
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  She, she meets this dude named Jeremy.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And, they start dating.
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  They're just young love.
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  Yeah.
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  He's picking her up and carrying her around, and just joking and playing and everybody said he was a good godly guy, and they really liked him.
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  We see her being in,, a pageant at school and just her and Jeremy, you know, just really vibing.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  She's 18 and he proposes at church, which again, that was probably, her dream proposal- Right is for, somebody to come on the church stage and just, like, whip out a ring because that's just where she lived.
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  So of course she says yes.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  We see them get married.
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  Yep.
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  The pastor that marries them is John Paul or JP Miller.
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  Which is crazy.
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  It's so creepy.
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  And that was in 2012.
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  Right.
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  And so of course nothing's going on between, well, that we know about at this point between Micah and JP other than just all the relationships we already talked about.
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  But for Jeremy, with him also being in that congregation- That was his pastor.
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  That's who he looked up to.
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  And then as a dude too, you know, he's a young pastor.
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  So 18 years old and you're 28, Mm-hmm vibe more with you than somebody that's 50.
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  Yeah.
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  So the church continues to grow.
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  At this time, Micah is JP's assistant.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  She's also their babysitter.
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  She's JP and Ally's babysitter.
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  Really don't even know how many children they had, sources differ on if he had four or five kids.
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  Oh.
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  'Cause I think there was even somebody before Ally.
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  Again, not trying to get into all the other stuff I've uncovered, but anyway.
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  I'm really, really trying.
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  But yeah, Micah was their babysitter.
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  Right.
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  Micah and Jeremy and JP and Ally would go on double dates together.
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  I know.
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  Ew.
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  Very ew.
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  I, I'm, mm.
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  He's such a creep.
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  Such a creep.
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  Mm.
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  So we find out that JP is texting Micah and just being, you know,"You're doing such a great job.
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  Let me take you to lunch," or, you look good today," and of course it escalates.
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  Yep.
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  This creeped me out.
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  We see a flash of him preaching about lust- Yes in church.
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  Uh-huh.
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  Now, again- I was in a lot of church sermons.
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  I don't think lust came up as many times as he talked about it.
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  Well, I'm projecting, right?
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  Yes.
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  Like, that's projection.
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  Yes.
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  And he thought nobody's ever gonna find out.
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  Right.
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  And I know that it's only, a small sample of all of his stuff, but still, just, it's- Yeah a lot.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  So the affair gets out because- Yeah the text messages.
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  So the wife, Ally, finds the text messages on his phone.
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  Right.
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  A lady named Erica Rahrer, I don't know how to say her name, Rahrer, is involved at this point as a, She ends up being a friend of Micah's, but, we meet her at that point.
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  Right.
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  So JP ends up standing up in front of the church and just says he's had a moral failing- Yeah in his marriage.
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  This is all just to control the narrative because- Mm-hmm the wife was gonna spill the tea- Mm-hmm to everybody at- Yeah church.
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  He doesn't say who it is at this point.
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  You know.
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  And honestly, never mind.
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  I'll stop there.
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  What?
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  No, it's okay.
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  Yeah.
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  Oh, okay.
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  I'm spoiled.
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  Well, like, I could see being in that church and something like that happening, and me being like,"You know what?" He's human.
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  He's human- Yeah and God's gonna show him grace.
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  And- So should we.
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  I need- Yeah to too, and he's real.
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  And I can relate because I've done things that I'm not proud of.
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  Ugh.
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  Yeah.
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  And I hate myself for that.
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  Yeah, I know.
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  That's the religious guilt, right?
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  It is.
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  Yeah.
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  It really is.
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  So, Micah reaches out to her family and tells them.
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  It's still not out to the church yet, but she just lets them know, and Micah feels truly guilty.
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  Ally's divorcing JP.
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  Now it's getting out to the church.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Everybody knows about it.
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  The church is really rough.
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  Things are starting to happen.
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  Things are starting to break apart.
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  JP is spiraling.
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  And then we see him laying on the lawn.
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  And he's,"Me, me, me, me, me," doing this voice.
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  Oh, I can't.
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  I can't.
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  I was like, is he, is he hungover?
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  Is he drunk?
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  Is he fallen?
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  No, he's putting on an act.
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  He is 100% putting on an act, and I really still can't...
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  I try to listen and watch, like, the subtitles across the bottom.
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  Basically, he's just in a weird, weird place, and he's just asked somebody, like,"Do you want me to call Mark?" And he's like,"The neighbor called him." Mark's his best friend.
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  But he's like,"There's ants in my eyes," and he's just bawling and- But it was all for attention.
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  It was all to, put himself as a victim- Yep and get him out of this mess- Mm-hmm with the church.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  It was all- Yeah an act.
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  So he's crashing.
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  He's crashing hard.
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  He turns into, a traveling musician.
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  Musician.
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  Yeah.
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  You watched him, like, and, and, like, he could play the piano.
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  He would tear that up.
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  Side note, sorry, gotta do it- Crocodile Rocks- Mm-hmm is a bar in Myrtle Beach- Uh-huh that he was, I wanna say, like, half owner of.
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  Oh.
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  How weird is it for...
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  And don't, um, I might have the verbiage wrong.
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  He might just be, like, a co-owner or something like that, but he was heavily involved with the bar.
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  He was- This pastor of this southern Bible-beating church.
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  Okay, whatever.
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  Yeah.
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  Whatever.
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  Yeah.
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  Okay.
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  Well, listen, nothing adds up with this dude.
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  No, no.
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  So- It doesn't.
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  It doesn't, so- That's, that's the least of, of the You're right WTHs.
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  You're right.
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  I don't know why that one was the one that got me, but anyway, so, people are saying he was a ridiculously, abundantly gifted in music.
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  He was just doing his thing.
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  But he says that the church is hemorrhaging members.
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  Mm.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  So side note.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Speaking of, musically inclined.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  I just said the other day that God knew not to give me any musical talents- Mm-hmm singing or instrumental-wise, because Have you seen that guy that plays the music for all the animals and they all come, like, come to him?
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  No, but- And I, I was like, He, God knew that if He gave me any kind of musical talent- That's not what we would do this is what I would do, and I would start, like, this big, fluffy, little, like, animal cult.
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  And they would all follow me around.
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  You know, you'd be like the Pied Piper of the fuzzy stuff.
• 12:54
  Yeah.
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  But, like, he's at zoos, like, playing for tigers and lions.
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  And does, does...
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  Are they, like, calm?
• 12:59
  Yeah.
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  No, they come over and they lay down and, like...
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  Yeah.
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  I am obsessed.
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  That's really cute.
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  I'm gonna have to look that up.
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  I will learn how to play the guitar just to be able to do that.
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  Did I ever tell you about the time that I thought I could play the bass?
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  I have never played a guitar in my life.
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  I do not play an instrument other than the recorder that I had to learn in third grade, and then, some stuff on the piano, like Lean On Me, because, you know, just like, point your finger.
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  Yeah.
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  I thought I could play the bass guitar,'cause it just sounded like something I could pick up.
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  I borrowed a bass guitar.
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  Brian and I were married.
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  This wasn't a- Geez terrible long time ago.
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  I borrowed a bass guitar and speaker and everything and brought it home, and I, picked it up one time and I was like,"I have no idea how to even work this," and I gave it right back.
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  I played the saxophone in, fourth grade for- Did you?
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  a year.
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  Yeah.
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  Do you think you could play anything now?
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  Absolutely not.
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  I couldn't play it then.
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  I see these people who can just sit down, well, just like him, and he's just like, and I'm just- Mm-hmm.
• 13:54
  Yeah, and here I am doing Hot Cross Buns.
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  On the recorder.
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  On the recorder, yeah.
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  So things aren't going great.
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  He's in a personal crisis.
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  The church is just falling apart.
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  So then we meet Pastor Pam.
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  Pastor Pam is, a, not an old lady, but older than JP lady, and she is an established Christian lady who I don't think she was necessarily in the church.
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  I don't know if she was in the church or just, somebody in the community that everybody respected, so they get her to, preach and be a part of everything to kind of get some stability back.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  And, she does not like anything that's going on.
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  She doesn't like Micah.
• 14:32
  Yeah.
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  She doesn't, she's not happy about things.
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  So at this point, JP is like,"You know what I'm gonna do?" He's the master of an email, and they, they got him in some trouble too.
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  Yeah.
• 14:42
  But anyway, so he emails the church, and he tells everybody he sinned and, that, he's fallen short of the glory of God or whatever he said, and, we're supposed to forgive and show grace, just like whatever.
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  And, Do as I say, not as I do.
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  Pretty much.
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  Pretty much.
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  And, And again, the people are just like,"Whoa." You know, again, he's 36 at this point.
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  Yeah.
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  And she is 21.
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  Yeah.
• 15:04
  Well, her family also starts seeing red flags.
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  Her family does start seeing red flags, yeah.
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  And, Micah gets JP's signature tattooed on her body.
• 15:11
  Yep.
• 15:12
  Yep.
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  Her boob job.
• 15:13
  Yes.
• 15:14
  Yes.
• 15:15
  And they say,"We're trying to take this mistake and turn it into something good," so they start dating.
• 15:21
  Now, I am not a big fan of,"We made a mistake, so let's try to make another mistake to cover it up." Yeah.
• 15:27
  It's just like when somebody gets pregnant.
• 15:29
  Getting married to that person isn't always a solution in my opinion.
• 15:32
  Mm-hmm.
• 15:32
  Anyway, that's a different subject.
• 15:33
  Yeah.
• 15:33
  So that's what they say.
• 15:35
  He's a love bomber.
• 15:36
  Yep.
• 15:37
  And about this time, Nate, her brother, his wife gets a text and says, you need to get your girl, Micah, and she needs to have a talk with JP." And they're like,"What?" They don't know this girl.
• 15:50
  They're like,"What's going on?" Um, we've been dating, so yeah, they've not done anything other than kiss.
• 15:57
  But anyway, that's going on.
• 15:59
  Micah's really hurt.
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  She's in denial.
• 16:02
  He love bombs her and they're fine, right?
• 16:05
  Yeah, I mean, it's always- Mm-hmm it's, it's a cycle.
• 16:07
  Yeah.
• 16:08
  And we found out at this point that JP had a timeline of when he thought things needed to happen.
• 16:13
  Mm-hmm.
• 16:13
  So they were gonna date this long, then get engaged this way at this time, and then get married.
• 16:19
  So, he proposes- Yeah because it's in the timeline.
• 16:23
  And, they're on the beach and there's, the airplane flying over,"Will you marry me, Micah?" And all this kind of stuff.
• 16:29
  And,, that looks really good on the surface.
• 16:32
  Mm-hmm.
• 16:32
  But we come to find out that she is really insecure because he's making her that way.
• 16:36
  He is just making her feel not pretty enough, not loved enough.
• 16:41
  And Micah's mindset in this whole thing that we get from several different perspectives, all she wanted to do was point people to Jesus.
• 16:49
  Mm.
• 16:49
  That was, her heart was for people and try to help people in the church.
• 16:53
  Right.
• 16:53
  That's all she wanted to do.
• 16:54
  Right.
• 16:55
  And this evil, evil man is just- He- starting to rip her apart he manipulated her into- Yep.
• 17:00
  Yep all of it, yeah.
• 17:02
  So because of this, she has a breast augmentation.
• 17:05
  Mm-hmm.
• 17:05
  'Cause he wants her to have that done.
• 17:07
  Right.
• 17:08
  So while there was allegations of it, he still denies it just for legal purposes.
• 17:12
  Thanks for covering.
• 17:12
  The alleged- Mm-hmm he allegedly told her he wanted her to have breast implants.
• 17:17
  Thank you.
• 17:18
  Allegedly.
• 17:19
  He, he disputes the claim.
• 17:20
  We don't believe you, JP.
• 17:22
  Look me in my eyes and tell me that's true.
• 17:24
  Okay.
• 17:24
  So, She has a bad reaction to the surgery She does have a bad reaction.
• 17:28
  He's helping take care of her and, we see videos of her after the surgery.
• 17:34
  Mm-hmm.
• 17:35
  And they're, like, videos that he's taken from his, his phone.
• 17:38
  Of course.
• 17:39
  Mm-hmm.
• 17:40
  And it's, uh, they're in a house, probably in a bedroom'cause she's recovering from her surgery, and she's talking.
• 17:46
  And she's not even saying anything that crazy to me.
• 17:49
  Mm-hmm.
• 17:49
  Like, some of it doesn't make sense, but it's not like she's talking off the wall or, like- Right anything like that.
• 17:55
  But he's pretty much telling her that she is having a, you know, psychotic episode.
• 18:00
  Right.
• 18:01
  And that it's due to the anesthesia.
• 18:03
  Mm-hmm.
• 18:05
  And then they show us the medical records, too.
• 18:06
  Yep.
• 18:06
  And it says that she is des- he described her- Mm-hmm as delusional and she was making hyper-religious statements.
• 18:13
  Mm-hmm.
• 18:13
  Yep, exactly, and she's diagnosed as bipolar.
• 18:16
  Mm-hmm.
• 18:16
  Never had a mental diagnosis her whole life.
• 18:18
  Right.
• 18:19
  And we're going straight to bipolar.
• 18:20
  Right.
• 18:21
  Um, so he's her caretaker.
• 18:23
  She's, um, you know, put under, I guess, a psychiatric hold at this point.
• 18:27
  She's discharged on December 25th and,, the next thing we see, their wedding.
• 18:32
  Right.
• 18:33
  And I believe it's a week after her surgery.
• 18:35
  Six days.
• 18:36
  Six days.
• 18:36
  Mm-hmm.
• 18:37
  That is crazy.
• 18:39
  Yeah.
• 18:40
  Now, could you imagine, you're dress fitting, right?
• 18:42
  Right.
• 18:43
  Now all of a sudden your boobs are double.
• 18:45
  I, think about my brides that I had to deal with, had a, a, a dress issue a couple weeks ago where it was pinned wrong.
• 18:51
  We had to unstitch it.
• 18:52
  Not a big deal.
• 18:53
  She looked beautiful.
• 18:54
  But no.
• 18:56
  So I'm assuming she had her dress already, and then her boobs are twice the size.
• 18:59
  How do you fit in your d- And she was so tiny anyway.
• 19:02
  Yeah.
• 19:03
  Okay, so now they're married.
• 19:04
  They're married.
• 19:05
  The family's trying not to really be there, but they're supporting her because it's her.
• 19:11
  Their vows were really weird to me.
• 19:12
  Mm-hmm.
• 19:13
  She's like, my promise to you is I'll just be 100% of everything"- Yeah basically.
• 19:17
  And he's like,"Well, I'm gonna strive to do these things." And he also says,"I'm gonna support your enthusiastic personality." Isn't that why she was just locked up?
• 19:26
  Yeah.
• 19:26
  Because she was a little too much for him?
• 19:27
  Mm.
• 19:28
  But anyway, okay.
• 19:29
  And then, her family saying that they felt like they had to pretend everything was normal at this point- Mm because they're already that far into it.
• 19:35
  They're that far.
• 19:35
  It's pen to paper at this point.
• 19:37
  Yeah.
• 19:37
  And the other thing is, with Micah's mom having a couple of different marriages, that was one thing she wanted in her head was that she was gonna have one marriage and everything was gonna be happy her whole life.
• 19:46
  Now she's on two.
• 19:47
  Now she's on number two, so she's already- That was already up starting.
• 19:50
  Home record.
• 19:50
  No, I'm just kidding.
• 19:51
  All right.
• 19:51
  I'm just kidding, but, so we meet, Bunda at this, I think her name is pronounced Bunda, and she's going through a divorce.
• 19:58
  She meets Micah.
• 19:59
  Micah tells her.
• 20:00
  She's just honest.
• 20:03
  Mm.
• 20:03
  And she's just real with her.
• 20:04
  She's- And she's like,"Yo, I had the affair." Right.
• 20:06
  She's like, I'm the other woman in your relationship and I'm just really sorry for the pain that person caused you," whatever.
• 20:11
  They had a great relationship- Yeah'cause she was real, and she was human and all the things.
• 20:15
  I don't know if I...
• 20:16
  Like, listen, I- I try to have grace for people.
• 20:20
  Mm-hmm.
• 20:22
  But my grace has, has run out.
• 20:25
  I know.
• 20:25
  For, for a lot of situations.
• 20:26
  Um- Like, I really don't.
• 20:27
  I, I think I would've just been like,"What the?" Well, and it's like the older I get too, too, like, I start to understand why old people are mean.
• 20:35
  Yeah.
• 20:35
  I'm gonna be an old m- like, I don't have time for your bullshit.
• 20:38
  Yes.
• 20:39
  Amen.
• 20:39
  I'm stole.
• 20:40
  No, seriously.
• 20:40
  So yeah, I get it.
• 20:42
  Yeah.
• 20:42
  So we also talk to Charlotte at this point, and that's another friend of hers.
• 20:47
  And Charlotte's, starting to tell us some things are just coming out that aren't making the right light.
• 20:51
  Micah says,"Don't call me before 11:00." Mm-hmm.
• 20:54
  "JP doesn't want me to get out of bed before him, so I'll call you- Freaking weird.
• 21:00
  Like, you would think he'd be like,"Get my coffee and breakfast ready before I get out of bed." Well, it tells, I guess, of all his sexual addiction- Well, not, yeah he was just, I mean, we know that now.
• 21:07
  Yeah.
• 21:07
  But like- But, yeah in her, like, if I were her, I'd be like,"What?" What?
• 21:09
  Yeah, yeah.
• 21:10
  She is at this point on lithium and Seroquel.
• 21:14
  Straight to lithium?
• 21:15
  I don't know how or why that works.
• 21:16
  This is some Britney Spears, like, crazy- It's- stuff it really is.
• 21:20
  Straight to lithium.
• 21:21
  And, I mean, I just, I don't know much about these drugs, but just hearing the name, wasn't that the name of Nirvana's album?
• 21:27
  Yeah.
• 21:27
  So to me it was a pretty big drug.
• 21:29
  Like- There was a town in Texas, wasn't, like the water was, like, they said it was- Yes like, a river and it was all lithium.
• 21:36
  Give me a swig of that.
• 21:37
  So but she's very open with everybody.
• 21:39
  She's very, sh- she's on social media, sharing her story and that she's struggling.
• 21:43
  She's always very honest about that.
• 21:45
  And she's- She's struggling because she's on all this medication she don't need she is.
• 21:48
  She is.
• 21:49
  And, because of these medications, she's gained some weight and she doesn't feel like herself.
• 21:54
  She was always very put together.
• 21:55
  She's starting to just feel a little frumpy at this point.
• 21:58
  So she and her friend Charlotte join the gym and they start to hang out.
• 22:01
  But Charlotte tells us that they can only spend, two hours together.
• 22:04
  Mm-hmm.
• 22:05
  And after those two hours, JP'd start calling.
• 22:07
  Mm-hmm.
• 22:08
  He'd call her, and 10 minutes later call her, and then five minutes later call her.
• 22:11
  That was, like, the amount of time that she could have, to spend some time with her.
• 22:14
  Right.
• 22:15
  But to the public, everything looks great.
• 22:17
  They look- Yeah like the Christian power couple.
• 22:18
  Yep.
• 22:18
  They were the it couple.
• 22:20
  Mm-hmm.
• 22:21
  Even though all of the scandal- Mm-hmm he looks like he's, this big supportive husband who- He's a supportive husband who has admitted his wrongs- Mm-hmm and now the church is thriving, and he's got this beautiful wife who's the worship leader, who is devoted to him, and she's very godly and, you know, living her good life.
• 22:38
  It, so it took about a year and a half for Charlotte and Micah to really bond and talk about deep things, and I get that.
• 22:46
  You first meet somebody and you're only spending two hours a week with them.
• 22:49
  You're not just gonna start dropping stuff.
• 22:50
  But, Micah starts telling Charlotte that they do something sexual every day.
• 22:55
  Yeah.
• 22:55
  And she tells him that, or she tells Charlotte sometimes four times a day.
• 23:01
  Sometimes- Four times a day they're doing sexual things.
• 23:04
  And she tells Charlotte, Micah says,"If I don't give it to him, he is gonna get it elsewhere." Yeah.
• 23:10
  So she knows at this point that he's doing things with other people.
• 23:13
  Right.
• 23:14
  Uh- And, and when you're on those kind of medications, I believe that, like, your libido drops.
• 23:18
  Mm.
• 23:18
  Like, you don't want to do anything.
• 23:19
  Right.
• 23:20
  If...
• 23:20
  And I've never been on those, but so I could be totally wrong.
• 23:22
  But- Well, that, and the fact that you're not feeling your prettiest.
• 23:25
  A- and then, I mean- doubt they were having a great relationship connecting on any level at this point- Right because he's putting her down all the time, and she's just trying to please him, and- Right that had to be such a chore or, like, an obstacle for her to get over every day.
• 23:41
  Every day.
• 23:42
  Four times a day.
• 23:43
  I cannot imagine.
• 23:45
  Mm-mm.
• 23:45
  I could not.
• 23:46
  On top of all the other pressures of being a woman, and her job- Mm-hmm and just putting the front up that she's got up.
• 23:53
  She had to be exhausted.
• 23:54
  Exhausted, and they do say this, that she would just come in with bags under her eyes.
• 23:58
  Listen, I get it.
• 23:59
  Like, I, I mean, I...
• 24:02
  And he is continuously in the pulpit saying,"You don't tell your husband no." Yeah.
• 24:06
  You don't...
• 24:06
  Telling your husband, he says at one point, telling your husband no to sex is the equivalent of rape or, uh, sex trafficking.
• 24:14
  He's twisted.
• 24:16
  He's twisted.
• 24:16
  So, things aren't good in the Miller house., She texts her sister like,"Can I come and visit?" And this happens because JP is bugging Micah- Mm-hmm and saying,"If you could kiss a girl, who would it be?
• 24:28
  If you could kiss a girl, who would it be?" Mm-hmm.
• 24:30
  And she's just like,"Shut up," like,"I don't even...
• 24:32
  That's not even a thing." Yeah.
• 24:33
  Like, that's not even...
• 24:33
  And she's like, she picks somebody safe, so she picks her bestie.
• 24:36
  She's like,"With Charlotte." Like, I could see me being like, you know,"Charlotte, whatever.
• 24:39
  Just whatever." So then he flips, and he's like,"What?" This is what you're doing while I was spending time with her?
• 24:45
  Yeah.
• 24:45
  What is going on?
• 24:46
  Whatever.
• 24:47
  So then he puts Charlotte and Micah in a group text with himself, and he's like,"Micah, I need you to be a godly wife this one time." And Micah's like,"What the freak are we doing here?" And Charlotte's like,"Oh my God, this is insane." And Micah's like,"I'm out.
• 25:03
  I'm going to my sister's house." And JP starts texting the sister,"I'm on my way and I'm armed." Mm-hmm.
• 25:08
  And that's the end of episode one.
• 25:09
  Okay.
• 25:09
  So we know the relationship, we know the craziness is happening, and we know that JP is just off the rails.
• 25:15
  Yeah.
• 25:17
  He needed to be on the lithium, not her.
• 25:19
  Yeah.
• 25:19
  All right.
• 25:20
  So, um- That's where episode one wraps up.
• 25:22
  All right.
• 25:22
  So, um, we're gonna just do a closing just in case, right?
• 25:25
  Yeah.
• 25:25
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• 25:26
  Yeah.
• 25:26
  Um, so c- We'll do...
• 25:29
  So we'll do episode two next week.
• 25:31
  Yes.
• 25:31
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