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1070 - Pop and Bravo with Brian J. Moylan · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to beat Shade. It's Thursday.
• 0:16
  Speaker 2: That means we're going to talk about Bravo and I've
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: got a Bravo expert here. It's Brian J. Moylan, President
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: and founder of the Real Housewives Institute, also very famous
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: Vulture writer and co author of Erica Jane's book or
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: author of Erica Jane's book.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, Hi.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: I got to see you very briefly at Bravo con
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: like a couple of times, and that was it.
• 0:44
  Speaker 3: I know, there are so many people there, Oh my god,
• 0:47
  Speaker 3: so people you know Ryan Bailey, who does so people
• 0:53
  Speaker 3: think that Ryan Bailey and I look alike, which when
• 0:57
  Speaker 3: he had a mustache, I get it, but he does anymore,
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  Speaker 3: and I do. But so I saw this. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: see Ryan at all, because we usually like to take
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  Speaker 3: a picture and be like, I have a.
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  Speaker 2: Picture two years ago from the party we did after
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  Speaker 2: eating a Phillips show of you and Ryan together, because
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  Speaker 2: everybody thinks you look like which you don't exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So I run into this woman and so now people
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  Speaker 3: are always like, oh my god, I love your podcast,
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  Speaker 3: and then I'm like, oh, they think I'm Ryan Bailey
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  Speaker 3: and I just play a long and smile and take
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  Speaker 3: a picture and whatever. And so this woman is like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, I love your podcast. You know. My
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  Speaker 3: friend like can we take a picture to send him?
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like sure, great, you know, so we take
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  Speaker 3: a picture. And then the next day she's like, oh
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  Speaker 3: my god, I saw you or I sent a picture
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  Speaker 3: to my friend and I thought it was you, but
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  Speaker 3: it was really this other guy wearing a skirt. And
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  Speaker 3: I was like, that was me. I'm the guy in
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  Speaker 3: the skirt. You still think I'm like Ryan Bailey and
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  Speaker 3: I'm not. And she was like, oh, sorry twice I
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: saw you, like once for a second. So that's what
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  Speaker 3: my Bravo con was like.
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  Speaker 1: That is so funny. Well, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean Ryan Bailey has a full beard, yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: you you.
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  Speaker 1: Know he's you know, a.
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  Speaker 2: Pretty heterosexual dude with a baby on the way, and
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  Speaker 2: you know you're in a kilt, so.
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  Speaker 3: Right. I mean we're both white guys of a certain height,
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  Speaker 3: but you know we have Irish last names. Other than that,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't so I just if you really do listen to
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  Speaker 2: Ryan and then I heard you like talk like hey, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to have a picture you guys don't sound alike.
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  Speaker 3: No, but I did.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, when you walked up, I was talking to Mandy
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  Speaker 2: Sluittskert and her friend Jody and this guy that's a
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: writer and he writes he's writing something for Bustle, but
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: he also writes for Vanity Fair. Yes, I was gonna say,
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  Speaker 2: I think his name is Louis or Louis. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: stand in America.
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  Speaker 3: He'd b Lewis in England where he's from, it's Louis's yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and he's actually he's Scottish.
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  Speaker 1: Oh oh, I like it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I got to get him on the show just a little.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, he's great. He lives in London and we've
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  Speaker 3: become friends. Because there aren't as many Bravo fans in
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  Speaker 3: the UK as there are in America. It's growing, but
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  Speaker 3: you know, we it's a little bit harder to find
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  Speaker 3: your people. So when you do.
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  Speaker 2: Feather yeah, well he he said that I looked like
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: Kathy Hilton, So I said, do you want to be
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  Speaker 2: my best friend?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's ten years older than me. I'll take it, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, I'll yeah, well you should put a dress on
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  Speaker 3: and got on stage. Done a la buobu impersonation. Everyone
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  Speaker 3: would have loved it. Kathy, did you have Bravo con
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  Speaker 3: What did you think this year compared to in the past.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I do like it better in Vegas than in
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  Speaker 2: New York. And that's hard for me to say because
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: I really love New York City in general, and I
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  Speaker 2: really hate Las Vegas with a burning fire same, But
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  Speaker 2: it is better in Vegas as far as the venues
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  Speaker 2: and how it's set up.
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  Speaker 3: I think agree.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I was just hither and Yon running around, and
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  Speaker 2: I think since we did it in twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 2: they're in Vegas knowing here twenty twenty three. Here in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, we had more of a feel of
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  Speaker 2: knowing that, Okay, we don't have to like panic to
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  Speaker 2: get to this or that you know, we can sort
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  Speaker 2: of like, man, if we want to sleep in a
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  Speaker 2: little while we miss a panel, somebody will tell us
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  Speaker 2: what happens.
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  Speaker 3: Who cares? Ye? Yeah, no, I agree. And it was
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  Speaker 3: nice like having that familiarity with like, Okay, I know
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  Speaker 3: where everything is, I know how to get around, like
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  Speaker 3: it's all the same like set up. I think that
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  Speaker 3: just made it a lot easier than in the past.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you so did you have a press pass
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  Speaker 2: in a general or do you have a press pass
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  Speaker 2: and a VIP.
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  Speaker 3: I had a press pass. They gave us general admission ticket,
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  Speaker 3: and then there was like a little press section reserved
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  Speaker 3: like in each of the rooms, and it was to
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  Speaker 3: the front, but like way off to the side, so
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  Speaker 3: it was hard to get like videos and things like
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  Speaker 3: from the stage. Maybe that's intentional, I don't know, but
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  Speaker 3: the way it kind of worked, I would pretend like
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  Speaker 3: I was going to the press section and then kind
• 5:29
  Speaker 3: of like walk around it right into the VIP section,
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  Speaker 3: especially when it wasn't that busy, right, because then like
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  Speaker 3: Mandy Slutsker, who we both know, had a VIP pass
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  Speaker 3: and she's like, come sit with me, and I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'm just going to break in. And there was a
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  Speaker 3: VIP room that we weren't supposed to go in, and
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  Speaker 3: it's just like depended on who was guarding it. So
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  Speaker 3: you'd be like, oh, I'm pressed, and just like walk past,
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  Speaker 3: and they were fine.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, we had the VIP last time and this time,
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: and the VIP room is really where it's at. That's
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  Speaker 2: any time I went Kiki with Mandy, it was in
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  Speaker 2: the VIP room, I'd see her and be like, let's chat.
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  Speaker 1: What do you know.
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  Speaker 3: Some of the people were complaining that there weren't as
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  Speaker 3: many Bravo lebs in the VIP room this year as
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  Speaker 3: in the past. Did you find that true of your experience?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did get two good pictures in that room,
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  Speaker 2: one with Rachel Zoe, Yeah, that was good, and then
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  Speaker 2: another with Michelle from the Valley. But otherwise it's so
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  Speaker 2: spread out that you're like, I know, there's probably somebody
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  Speaker 2: way over there that I could get a picture with,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't want to again stand in another fucking line,
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  Speaker 2: you know, as Denise Richards and I love her, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna stand over here and take a picture
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  Speaker 2: of her.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, yeah, I'm going to take a
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  Speaker 3: picture of her taking pictures with a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, I don't know this stranger, but she's
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  Speaker 2: going to be now, am I think?
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I think that this year, more so than two years ago,
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  Speaker 2: I was very shocked at how thin people are and all, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like everybody is thin to start with, but now everybody
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  Speaker 2: is like so thin.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a little concerning.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And like there was some like Lindsey Hubbard looks
• 7:21
  Speaker 3: of sinse in like a great way. Like I thought
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  Speaker 3: she looked good, but some of the housewives, it was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: why are you doing this?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a lot that was shocking. Always surprised
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  Speaker 2: at the heights on people. I knew that Angie k
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  Speaker 2: was very, very short because I've talked to her in
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  Speaker 2: the airport two years ago. Yeah, and people were like,
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: and people are like, I don't believe that. I go okay,
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: So watch the below Deck episodes where she has to
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  Speaker 2: have no shoes on, and.
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  Speaker 1: Then see how short she is. She is like Kyle
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  Speaker 1: Richard little.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and I you know, usually you think everyone shorter,
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: and and I was on the Red Carpet and West
• 8:03
  Speaker 3: from Summerhouse. We follow each other on social media because
• 8:07
  Speaker 3: his mother is a fan of my recaps and send
• 8:10
  Speaker 3: my recaps, and so he came up to me and
• 8:13
  Speaker 3: gave me a hug, which was lovely. I was surprised
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  Speaker 3: at he you know, I'm like six to two. He's
• 8:18
  Speaker 3: probably like six foot, but he's always with Carl and
• 8:22
  Speaker 3: Jesse Solomon, who are like six'. Seven so he looked
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  Speaker 3: him And Kyle cook both look little and they're like
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: some of the tallest guys On, Bravo SO i feel
• 8:31
  Speaker 3: bad for them that they're getting their height ruined by
• 8:36
  Speaker 3: the other. Guys but, yeah and And kay was in
• 8:39
  Speaker 3: full heels AND i was, like how are you this?
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• 10:33
  Speaker 2: talk To Mary cosby At bravo CON.
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: I did, not so they they had me running around
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: and you, know like covering, Panels vulture tod a live,
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: blog which was, great and SO i was sending like
• 10:43
  Speaker 3: updates from the live blog AND i was making some
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: like reaction videos and doing all this with some of the.
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: Panels and then they have like the press room as
• 10:50
  Speaker 3: like a red, carpet and they just bring people in
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: and SO i just kind of went and got WHO
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: i could, get like in between things they wanted me to.
• 10:59
  Speaker 3: Cover and so Sadly mary wasn't was there WHEN i
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: wasn't like talking to, people BUT i got a lot
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: of good. PEOPLE i talked To, ANDY i talk To
• 11:11
  Speaker 3: ACHI k saw my Girl. Erica so we Have Jim,
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: yeah oh my. God yeah she looks good, though BUT
• 11:20
  Speaker 3: i will say she looked similar to WHEN i worked
• 11:24
  Speaker 3: with her pre the, shot before the shot, Existed so you,
• 11:32
  Speaker 3: know it wasn't, like oh she you, know she's then,
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: here she got a little you, know put on a
• 11:39
  Speaker 3: little wait for a, bit but, yeah now she's back
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: to like where she was. Before and so but, yeah
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: SO i was in the press room and SO i
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: was just they were just kind of, like, oh do
• 11:49
  Speaker 3: you want to talk to, so and SO i was,
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: like whoever comes, By i'll talk to.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: Him so, well this episode will come out On, thursday
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: and it's the. Night it's the night of The Beverly
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: hills premiere On. Thursday, now have you SEE i got
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: the screener, because LIKE i, said they send me the
• 12:03
  Speaker 2: first ones and then they never will send it to me.
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: AGAIN i got the, screener BUT i haven't watched.
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: It have you watched?
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: It, NO i. Haven't i'm going to watch it this
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: afternoon because IF i watch something AND i have to
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: write a recap of, IT i don't want to watch
• 12:16
  Speaker 3: something else BEFORE i recap it. Again and So i've
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: been it's a busy. WEEK i had to do Vander
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: Pump rules recap because that was On. TUESDAY i Have
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: Southern charm which On, wednesday and SO i finished. Those
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: So i'm gonna Watch Beverly hills today and write that
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: recap and all, right thoughts of Vander Pump rules. Thoughts so, my,
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: uh it seems. Good WHAT i was concerned about was
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: that it sounds, well it's hard to judge from the first.
• 12:51
  Speaker 3: Episodes you watched the first. Episode, no, OKAY i am in.
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: PROTESTS i am in. Protesting if somebody tells me it's,
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: great Then i'm going to watch, it but wasn't.
• 13:00
  Speaker 3: PROTESTING i, mean you, KNOW i have this. RULE i
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: call it The Eileen davidson, accord WHERE i Give housewives
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: five episodes BEFORE i judge if they're good or. Not
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: Because eileen started on the show And i'm, like she's,
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: BORING i don't like, Her she's. Terrible and then after
• 13:16
  Speaker 3: a WHILE i was, like, OH i like really like.
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: Her So i'm trying to Give van Or pump rules the. Same,
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: Like i'm gonna give it a few. Episodes the first
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: episode lots of set, up lots of introducing the. People
• 13:27
  Speaker 3: WHAT i was worried about was it was going to
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: be a lot of want to be influencers who want
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: to be on reality television to get more followers and
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: to get brand deals and, whatever and they weren't going
• 13:36
  Speaker 3: to know each, other and they just gave them jobs
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: at the restaurant to like get them on the. Show,
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: yeah it seems like there is a core group of
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: people who have worked there at least a year or
• 13:46
  Speaker 3: two years and know each other and have dated each
• 13:49
  Speaker 3: other and our friends and have some you, know organic,
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: connections and SO i think that's. Good there are these
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: two guys who have been on several reality. Shows they
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: have only fans. Accounts they are half cousins because their
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: mothers are half. Sisters they look, alike they're both really,
• 14:08
  Speaker 3: hot but they're trainees at At, Sir so it's like
• 14:14
  Speaker 3: they gave them jobs they can be on the. Show
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: and they're the kind of Guys i'm worried. About and
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: they have a scene together and it's like the most
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: boring scene of the. Premiere and their names Are chris And.
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: Jason they look. ALIKE i can't tell them. Apart it's
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: Like Lisa barlow And Meredith marks two point. Zero, yeah,
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: yeah and. Yeah SO i worry a little bit about,
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: that But i'm going to give it a little bit
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: of time and see where it.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: GOES i think if the people that have been working
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: there a couple of, years they're playing the long game
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: because they're, like if we just continue to work, here
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: eventually they'll have to cast us on the.
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: Show well there's one woman who's been there for like seven,
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: years And i'm, like, oh, yeah she has been a
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: whole died out for years and years and. Years finally
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  Speaker 3: she made.
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  Speaker 1: It what About peter Is peter Around peter is.
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  Speaker 3: Not, around, no WHICH i was surprised. BY i figure
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: it would be nice to have a Little peter, cameo, like,
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: yeah that's the. Thing other Than, lisa there's no one
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: tying it to the old. Days so, yeah WHICH i
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: thought was a little. Curious you might need a little.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: Something the only recurring character is the sir.
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  Speaker 2: Ally it just seems Like peter would be shuffling around
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: like these whipper snappers and they don't keep their schedule
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: and you know that kind of.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly Holding ken's.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Dog something fixed in his. Ponytail, okay so let's talk
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: about Some bravo.
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  Speaker 3: Gossip.
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  Speaker 2: First jinshaw we have heard is going to be released
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: in from now eight. Days it'll be six days when
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  Speaker 2: this comes Out january. Tenth so she got her time
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  Speaker 2: cut less than, half, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah like way more THAN i. Think she ended up
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  Speaker 3: serving like thirty something months and she got like eighty
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  Speaker 3: some Of LIKE i did the math when when the
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  Speaker 3: news came, out and NOW i forget what it, is but,
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  Speaker 3: yeah she is not going to be serving that much.
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  Speaker 3: Time And i'm curious as to why they said she
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  Speaker 3: just did.
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  Speaker 2: All this good stuff in prison that you, know if
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  Speaker 2: you mentor, somebody you get a month at it. On
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  Speaker 2: if you don't get into a, fight you get a
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  Speaker 2: month at it. ON i guess it's just you keep
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  Speaker 2: things in. Prison but my, god that's a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: Time, yeah did she inform on anybody she? Like giving me?
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  Speaker 3: Time it's, LIKE i don't, know that's a good.
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  Speaker 1: Call she could Have Vince. Snitchen we don't.
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  Speaker 2: Know BUT i, MEAN i think from Everything i've, seen every,
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  Speaker 2: interview every Time andy has ever asked about, it he's
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: like and, no, yeah he.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Goes he's like salt likes doing just.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Fine AND i think my personal theory on this, is you,
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: know because he does seem to be kind of forgiving
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Of Karen huger Or teresa or other. People but with this,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: SITUATION i think it hit so close to. Me what
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: she did was so, terrible and she admitted to. It
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: obviously her crimes were, Bad BUT i think it's because
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: it hit so close to home with, him with you,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: know trying to scam elderly, people and he himself got
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: scammed out of some money by person on the. Phone,
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: yeah AND i think he's just like anybody that's trying
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: to go after old people And i've got old.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Parents.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: No, Well AND i also think that up until the
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: day she pled, guilty she was, LIKE i didn't do.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: IT i didn't do. It you, know they made it
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: up Like i'm going to be vindicated, whatever and so you,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Know Karen huger kind of same. Thing but then she
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: came out and seems LIKE i want to talk about my,
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: addiction you, know like she's having somewhere, more seeing some.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: Accountability when are we going to see?
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: That by the, Way, brian when's?
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: THAT i believe it's the end of the.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Season, okay so not next week or they got to
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: go on a vacation.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: First. Yeah BUT i also think that some of it
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: is how the fans feel about, it which, is you,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: know fans didn't really care About teresa scamming the insurance.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Company they didn't care too much About Karen. Huger based
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: on everyone's reactions to bravocan Like wendy was getting cheers and, dykes,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: right and so SO i think that it's, like, oh
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: if you're scamming the, bank if you're scamming the insurance,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: company if you're just like running into a tree with your,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: car no big.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Deal but with scarring your.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Dog but, okay, right yeah, right Poor Archie. BADOUR i
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: mean we'll never get over. It but with Uh, JENSHAW
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: i think. That, yeah fans are, like she what she
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: did was really messed, up and we don't want her
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: back because they're on the occasional people On twitter who are,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: like bring Down shaw. Back but, like other.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Than, that that's a long con.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Too it, was it was on it was like fifteen
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: years before she even came On.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Bravo you, know it's just a long.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Con and then all those people fell under her and
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: she was just, LIKE i don't know what all twenty
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: of those people were talking.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: ABOUT i didn't do, anything don't shit.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: Me she also was kind of an awful person on
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: the show in a way that Like, Karen, Wendy teresa
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: so so again where, yeah AND i don't think and
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: the show is so good that we don't need her
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: or want her and so, yeah, Anyway, No i'm happy
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: For jen to never be. BACK i would like to
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: read an interview about time in. Prison, also if she's
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: looking for a ghost writer for the prison, Book i'm. Available,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: no not, REALLY i don't know THAT i would do.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: THAT i think it would be interesting, though just because,
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: she's you, know in with some famous people in. PRISON i,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: mean you, know we Know Elizabeth holmes is in there with.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Her you know That Gilly maxwell just got transferred.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: In, yeah so you, Know Jed shaw was like trying
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: to make friends With.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: GLENN i, mean she's just, like let me get this
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: tea for my. Books.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Amazing it will be interesting that if she comes out
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: and seems changed in any, way because just from the
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: clips we've seen of The karen, interview it does seem
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: a little bit. Changed and we did see that being
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: in prison and all that did really Change teresa in some,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: ways and that she dumped her husband and was LIKE
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: i REALIZED i don't need to be treated this way
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: by this, man.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Et, cetera et.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Cetera, yes she just up another man that was maybe
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: worse Allegedly. Teresa but did you see. That i'm At
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Bravo Gone Teresa.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: LOUIE i did see them. TOGETHER i Saw louie like
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: taking pictures and like The bravo bazaar with like a
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: line of, people And i'm, like who are these people
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: lining up to take a picture with red? Face, Louis
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: oh my. God. Yeah and THEN i also Saw Jared
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: osmond in the hallway taking pictures AND i was, like
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: who are, You, Like oh my. God, YEAH i will
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: SAY i did take a picture With brittany And. Jared
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: that's The, yeah that's the only PICTURE i got BECAUSE
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: i was with my Friend Michelle. Collins, Michelle, yeah and
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: we were talking about, how you, know because we're working
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: and busy and, whatever we, never you, KNOW i never
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: think to take pictures with the people Because i'm like
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: interviewing them or, whatever and so we were both lamenting
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: that we didn't have any. Pictures and right as we said,
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: that Like brittany And jared walked by and she was,
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: like this is our. Chance we're doing. It we're doing.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: It AND i was, like. Okay SO i was the
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: only only PEOPLE i got a picture.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: With bravo Con, michelle we saw her at dinner On wednesday.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: NIGHT i went to dinner with your, Doppelganger Ryan, Bailey,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: yeah And Amy phillips and her piano, Player drew And,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: ingrid my, producer and we all went to. DINNER i
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Got i'd gotten a reservation at Vander Pump, paris Which
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Vander Pump, paris they charge you thirty five dollars.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: A person to make the.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Reservation no thirty five dollars and they tell you it's
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: because you're going to be getting the Vander pump. Experience,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: okay that's. Insane SO i go in there with my
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: table of, one, two three or five And i'm, like
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: you bring it, on bring on this thirty five. Dollars
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: we hadn't ordered a, drink an appetizer and, Nothing we
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: got no free. BREAD i was, like what is this Vander?
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Pump it's Is lisa Vander pump coming out to talk to?
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Us what's the thirty five dollars a person THAT i
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: had to pay before we even walked. In they gave
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: us all like a shot of something from the.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Bar that's like, Crazy AND i Know drakes And vegas are,
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: expensive but and it's one thing to be, like oh
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: it's thirty five, dollars but like you get that off
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: your bill like at the, End, no, no that's. Crazy.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah and then so like three people at the table
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: didn't even, drink so Like Ryan bailey just drank them.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: All of course he. Did Oh. HERITAGE i went to
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: dinner one night At, pinkies which is our new restaurant
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: in The, flamingo AND i went WITH, heyu which is
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: the platform where we Watch housewives outside of THE. Us
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: and so they, paid thanks to. You but SO i
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: don't know if they, charge BUT i will say it's
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: the only Bandr pump Establishment i've been to where the
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: food was. Delicious it was.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Our food was good at Vander Pump.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Paris really that's good to hear BECAUSE i have not
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: had that experience In West.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Hollywood not In La, YEAH i got little mini croc
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: manteurs and they were. Delish but WHAT i was saying
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Was Michelle collins came in with the group of women
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: and so we were speaking with. Her rye knows her
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: AND i met her and were she, was she knows
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: amy whatever she was.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Loveling we were chatting but.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Hilarious so we noticed, THEY i, mean they bring us,
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: food but no, napkins, Okay And i'm a twelve napkin
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: a meal. GIRL i am a messy. Eater it's JUST
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: i don't know. WHY i don't know IF i, CAN'T
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: i don't know because of my lip. FLIP i can't
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: get things in my. Mouth i'm just a messy eater
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: and always have been my whole. Life and they gave
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: you these, tiny little square cocktail, napkins AND i was,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: like that's. Weird maybe they, whatever this is not the
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Vander pump, experience, Right so that Night michelle posted a
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: reel of her experience at Vander Pump paris and posted
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: the napkin AND i.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Wrote under, IT i, go what was the deal with?
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: That she, SAID i had to make a mosaic in
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: my lap you, know for THE i had to get
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: like twelve of them to make one. Napkin so that
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: would be my only. Complaint they Don't And i'm, like
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: are they trying to make us think that this is
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: what they do In?
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Paris Because i've been To paris and they give you. Napkins.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, YEAH i don't charge you thirty five.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Dollars just to the door just to sit. Down.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah do you think that was Like bravo kin special
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: or they do that all the. TIME i don't. KNOW i.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: DON'T i don't, know BECAUSE i kept, going something's gonna.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Happen they're gonna bring Up parklers and they literally, go
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: because The Vader pump, experience here are your free shots
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: and three people at the table.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Are, like we're not.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: DRINKING i was, like, okay Br, ryan you want, Four
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: i'll drink. ONE i, mean you, know.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: It was it was.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Crazy it's.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: Crazy And ken did come by when we were At
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: pinky's or they were like in the restaurant and then
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: like it was all, uh it was all you, Know
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Bravo cotton. People so everybody was, like CAN i take a,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: picture and.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: You're, excited, yeah, yeah. Yeah ken's carrying a, dog.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Yes and shuffling. Around and do you Know Dylan hayfer From,
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: betches he was there and he said like they wouldn't
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: see him in his table Because ken And lisa were
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: sitting at his table and wouldn't get.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Up and he's, LIKE i have a. Platform i'm going
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: to write about.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: This, yeah exactly. Right well he told, me, girl sorry
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: If i'm spilling your tea and you're like, mad but,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: YEAH i.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Need to get him.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: On i'm gonna write that down BECAUSE i met him
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: and talked to him several. Times, Okay, Jinshaw, Okay, Porsha
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: porscha has gone has gone public with her new.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Girlfriend i'm very excited For porscha and her new girlfriends me.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Too i'm excited she's try something. New he didn't work
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: with these. Dudes, YEAH i, mean you should have been
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: doing it all.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Along good for her and she she and her castmates
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: were talking about it a little bit At Brabo khan
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: on the panels and, stuff and, yeah.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: We have a woman on one of MY tlc, Shows.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Chantel she had a whole spin off Called The Family,
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: chantel and she also is now with a. Woman And i'm, Like,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: okay look at all these women discovering that what we
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: call late in life. Lesbians good for.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Them cough, Cough Kyle, richards, listen.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: MAYBE i mean maybe, okay speaking of people that are
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: in interesting, Relationships candy And. Todd, Yeah candy very smartly
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: waited to left To bravocon to announce her separation because,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: she you, KNOW i, think didn't want to talking about,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: it and she's a, pro and she didn't want.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: People to be Asking riley about it, too probably who
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: was there to get her own.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Light, now the rumors that we've seen are that they
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: had sort of a girlfriend that lived with, them uh you,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: know a throutfle if you, will and that Now todd
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: is with that woman and she's having a.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Baby OH i did not hear. That that is.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Crazy, yes that he is now fully with this other
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: woman and they are.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Pregnant.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: WOW i.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: And they you, know he's contesting the prenup and all
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: this stuff now they have she was wealthy before and
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: they HAVE i think amassed a lot of wealth.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Together.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: Yes, well and he's been working For Candy enterprises for
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: their entire, marriage As Mama joyce will let you know
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: anytime she.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Can, wow that's gonna be that's gonna be. MESSY i
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: mean they have that. PRENUP i remember it was a
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: whole storyline like he you, know and she's like, no
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: like you're a cameraman And i'm like a creamy.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Winner we're getting a.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: Prenup Whoa. Yeah and she's only done better and better
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: with the restaurants and The broadway shows and yeah yeah.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Wow well and then if, YEAH i wonder how it
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: all went down because the way she was selling it
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: originally is like there's no, drama we're still, friends blah blah.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Blah Like i'm curious if that's going to be the
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: case throughout the.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: DIVORCE i love To Mama joyce on the, phone, too
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: bighead of people should never have gotten.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Married also sad that the cameras aren't there to be perfectly,
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: honest like at all this and you, KNOW i have
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: all for a modern, arrangement, right like do what you
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: want to, do live your. Life i've had EVERYONE i
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: know personally who's had some kind of throutle. Arrangement it's
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: ended poorly.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: And one person gets left.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Out, yeah three is a bad. NUMBER i have two,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: brothers you. Know, yeah it's, like you. Can't three is hard,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: game go from skip right over three and get to.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Four it's the same when you have little. Kids you
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: never want to have three little kids over for the
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: playdate because one little one little kid's gonna be left.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Out two are going to form an. Alliance and, YEAH
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: i mean just, go, yeah just go like the show
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: THAT i Cover Seeking Sister, wife you, know just go
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: ahead and get one and try to roll right in
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: and get that.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Third so it's a four four, way.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Yes, exactly because, yeah three, terrible terrible. Number but, Wow
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: TODD i didn't know he edited in.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: THEM i.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Know and then he posted something about you wait for
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: my next scheme And shemia liked it and people are,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: like oh, God, shmia why are you liking?
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: It people are, like everybody needs to calm.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Down this came out before the divorce, announcement you, know
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Like i've been seeing all that kind of. Stuff, yeah,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: okay let's talk About mia stealing furniture from a condo
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: and trying to move out in the middle of the.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Night oh my, god do we need? Stuff, Like i'm
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: happy to talking About, mia but, also, like, girl this
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: is Why mia is not on the. Show Like, chris
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: always something shady About, mia.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Always something didn't make. Sense it was like every, season
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: a new, condo every, season a different story of why
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: they lost their. Money BUT i, mean they do have
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: a couple of. Kids and WHEN i met At brava
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: kan two years, ago she was a. Delight but speaking of,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: tall my, GOD i was, like are you six? Three
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: LIKE i never felt like so short and squady in my.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Life but she was very. Nice but, YEAH i was,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: like oh my. God and they're arresting. Her now here's
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: something else. Funny they said on the Arresting they're, like you,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: know we're gonna have to take you To Fulton County.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Jail and she, GOES i can't just go to the
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: holding and they go we don't have a. Holding i'm
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: covering a show right now called Sixty Days in and
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: it's about The Fulton County jail about how horrible it.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Is, Yeah i'm going to tell you.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Something that, is when they said, THAT i was, Like,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: oh that's not as you want to.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: Go, no feel bad for those, KIDS i know. Well
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: and then she was living with another boyfriend that wasn't ink.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: Right right she moved on from, Him, yeah.
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: And SO i don't know What i'll. See and Where's.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Gordon He's he's Like Ken toddie's shuffling around. SOMEWHERE i don't.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: KNOW i, mean oh my. God, yeah oh those poor.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Kids and then moving To atlanta and then they're living
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: in some place and.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah moved out in the middle of. Night drusty all
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: all the?
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Furniture you, mean did she do that by? Mistake did
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: she like try to steal the? Furniture BUT i also
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: read that she wasn't paying the, Rent SO.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I don't think you mistakenly think a whole apartment full
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: of furniture is yours when you didn't buy.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: IT i, MEAN i, Guess but, also why did she
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: have any? Furniture like Did gordon keep all the furniture In.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Maryland like we're not going to, Know we're not going to, know.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: And that's why it's you, know Uh andy talked about
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: this A Bravo, con like he he always tells them
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: to keep their day, jobs AND i feel Like mia
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: maybe never had a day, job and that's why it's
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: like a little sad that she needed the show real,
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: bad and now that it's, gone it's, like.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah speaking of people THAT i don't think have
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: had day. JOBS i was gonna ask, You braun, When,
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: okay everybody At Bravo con that met bron when WHICH
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: i did, not said she was a complete joy and,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: delight took a pick.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Sure with, everybody very, chatty super. Fun.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: NOBODY i didn't hear anybody have a bad experience that met,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: her since she was.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Wonderful she's she's got a divorce that, guy, right.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: It seems eminent to, Me like the thing is like
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: their their values don't seem to align, anymore and that
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: she wants to be famous to be on the, show
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: and he seems to want to have no part of
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: it and thinks it's silly and stupid and is making
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: fun of her for wanting to do it and. Whatever
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: SO i don't see how they get past.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: This it's the ridiculous conversation of her trying to talk
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: about their sex life when he's a dude of a
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: certain age who's, LIKE i am not discussing our sex
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: life with you on, camera and he's looking at her, like,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: no go, Ahead i'm. Listening, Yeah.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: AND i, wonder, yes and he doesn't seem fun he
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: doesn't seem, funny he doesn't seem into, her he doesn't seem.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Engaged And i'm wondering if that's like a result of
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: how he is when the cameras are, around or if
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: he's like that all the.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Time at a reunion last, year when he came out
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: and kind of did like a little, apology he seemed.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Kind of normal at.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Theion AND i, mean to have to do that well
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: in business and to have women be interested in him,
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: whatever he must have some kind of charm about. Him
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: so we haven't seen any of. That, no, yeah and so,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Right and SO i don't see What bronwyn finds attractive about.
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Him but maybe we're just not seeing the whole. PICTURE
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: i don't. Know but even if we're, not that is
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: definitely one aspect of his personality that she seems to
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: have a hard time. With but also her husband and
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: her mother remind me of each other a lot where
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: they're with holding. Approval they're very, Scolding LIKE i think
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: it's a dynamic that Bron when is used, to but
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: it seems to be one that she might be outgrowing
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: or at least trying to get out, of, yeah at,
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: point at least with the. Mom and So i'm curious
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: what effect that we'll have on her relationship With.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Todd i'd also like to know how the mom got
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: the Nickname.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Muzzy it's funny because there's a baseball field in my
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: hometown Called Muzzy field because there was a family their
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: last name Was, muzzy and so that's WHAT i always
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: think of there Is Mizzy.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: FIELD i just wonder because like she calls Her. MUZZY
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: i don't know if it's like that's the grandmother. Name
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: and so like all the grandkids and my family call
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: my Mom. Bobby her name Was, elizabeth they call Her
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: bobby because the first grandkid couldn't say and he was
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: just Saying, Bobby, Bobby. Bobby so NOW i went, off, Hey,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: bobby LIKE i call her that, too just because it's
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: a term of, endearment, right. Right so maybe somewhere along
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: the line a grandkids started calling her muzzy and that's
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: where it came. From BUT i would like for it
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: to be, explained because it's it's Like fozzy, bear it's Like,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: muzzy it's we'd like.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: To be, yeah, yeah. Right or it's just some like
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: Weird mormon. NICKNAME i don't. Know maybe there's a bunch
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: Of mormon mussy's running round that we don't know. ABOUT
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: i don't know What mormon's. Do, GIRL i have fun
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: crazy nick. Days oh my, god did you watch The murdoch?
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Murders of? Course, uh my, HUSBAND i just started this past,
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: weekend and we're obsessed with everyone's like stupid. Nicknames like
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: they call the Son, paul like, papa and it's.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Like let me tell you about papa, though BECAUSE i watched.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: THAT i watched that.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: Entire trial and when When Alec murder got on the
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: stand and they were asking him, questions he, goes, well you, Know,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Paul paul, this and the prosecutor, goes you've actually you've
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: never called him. Papa you've just started doing that on the,
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: stand and it was alleged in the trial that he
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: never called him. Papa he was just doing that on
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: the stand make it seem like he loved him so.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Much he was like his little. Baby he loved him so.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Much but in the in the, documentary in The hula,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: documentary it's Not, Paul paul. Papa it's, NonStop And i'm,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: like was it true or was it? Not did he
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: call him or? Not i'd like to. Know but what
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: bugged me the most was the overuse of the term.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: BO i don't know, BO i don't know. Bo the
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: over use of. IT i was, LIKE i, got we get,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: that you do that like dude or man or bro
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: like we get, it but it's every other word AND
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: i think the writers had a miss step.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: There, UH i absolutely agree with. You AND i also
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: they call the maid Like, gloria go, go and so
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: it's like everybody's. YEAH i was just, like oh my, god,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: ENOUGH i get. It shut up with the. Nicknames, Go
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: we're gonna call you. Bo you can call ME i don't, know, Briye. Brye.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Strange it's so. Strange, well it's really.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: GOOD i watched most of it At bravo CON i
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: would come moment night AND i would, like all, right
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: you have to watch. Something my time zones were all messed,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: up So i'd either Watch Secretlized Mormon wives Or the Murderch.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: MURDERS i was watching both of those the whole. TIME
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: i got through all of.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: It, YEAH i have been Enjoying Secret lives And Mormon
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: wives very.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Much it's a very good. Season i'm enjoying the all
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: the online gossip about. It it makes.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: Sense. WELL i also love that there is no fourth
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: wall at, All like after Watching bravo where they try
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: to keep a bit of mystery about. It, here they're,
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: like we're we're doing our, contracts so we're. Together oh
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: we're here For hulu Pres. Day and it's, like, yeah
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: it's like, Great like let me watch a reality show
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: about reality. Stars LIKE i agree fully into?
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: THIS i, AGREE i. Agree, Okay now another question Is.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Jersey so At bravo con we saw WHAT i consider
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: to be like, fakeness Like teresa and her Brother joe
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: like making up and people are, like oh and Now
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Teresa melissa allow each. Other do you think everybody says
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: this they got a year off and they're, like it's
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: not so fun not to make money for a. Year
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: maybe we should try to fucking get along and get
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: this show going.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: AGAIN I i feel Like teresa feels that way from
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: WHAT i. Understand SO i have an article that's coming,
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: OUT i think In. January it's About bravo. BUSINESSES i
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: talk To Melissa gorga about her business, ventures and according to,
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: her and v's doing. Great she just opened a second.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: Store Sprinkle cookies are doing. Amazing they're in supermarkets. Now
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: LIKE i Think melissa's you, Know melissa is All whenever
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: they do wife, swap they Call. Melissa whenever they do those,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: commercials they Call melissa because she shows. Up she knows her,
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: lines she's a, professional she's not a. Diva she works.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: HARD i Think margaret's doing just fine.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Too, Yeah AND i Think teresa is, like oh, SHIT
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: i need to get back on the show because my
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: husband spent all my money AND i think so. TOO
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: i don't have. Anything and SO i Think teresa was finally, Like,
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Okay i'm going to pretend LIKE i like. Her but
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: the thing, is you, know AND i did this huge
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: roundup Of Bravo khan with all the news in the
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: gossip and. Whatever it was like three thousand words, long you,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: know AND i sent it out with my, newsletter and
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: a couple of readers were, like why didn't you talk
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: About teresa And melissa making up and? Whatever because EVERYONE
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: i talked, to no one cared about, It, like no
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: one was interested in. It no one believes it's, real
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: like it all seems so transparent and. Transactional and you,
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: KNOW i have BEEN i have not been a fan
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Of teresa for many, years and SO i obviously am
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: going to, think, oh, yeah that's because It's teresa trying
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: to get back on the. Show, Yeah BUT i also
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: think the problem, is you, know for every, housewife there's
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: people that love them and there's people that hate. Them
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: that's like, universal, right and you know some might get
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: some more, hate some might get some more, love but
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: there's always. Detractors BUT i think And teresa's, fans the
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Tree huggers are like fanatical and devoted and love. Her
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: BUT i feel like even the Tree huggers Hate louie
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: and don't want to see him on their, Television and
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: so that means like it's hard to have her back
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: As lou's going to be, there you can't give her
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: a show with the, daughters because Then louis will be
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: even more. Prominent SO i don't think That bravo wants
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: to be out of The teresa business because she is
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: iconic and she's been with the show forever and there
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: are a lot of people that love. Her BUT i
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: think it's hard to be in The teresa business when
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: that means you also have to be in The louis.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Business it's a great.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Point it's a great.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Point and people who saw them at bravacn you, know were,
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: like whenever she was there or there he, was you,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: know and you're, like get speaking of a no day,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Job get out of.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Here exactly. Here my my rule of thumb is if
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: you can't if you're a housewife's husband and you can't
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: explain your job in like three, words then you're a. Criminal,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: like you, Know Joe, banino what did you? Do he's a?
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Plumber that's? It, yea, yeah you, know.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Like mauricio real estate.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: Exactly like, okay got it, right, lawyer, entrepreneur provate, development,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: uh real? Estate you? Know? Criminal what did he?
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Say that?
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: TIME i Watch What Happens live and it was literally
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: What jinshaw had just been arrested for and he said
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: what is your? Job and he said direct sales marketing
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: or whatever it, was And adie, goes, yeah H adie
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: does that face sometimes he does.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Like, YEAH i don't think that's a real.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Thing we know somebody that just got arrested for.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: That, yeah, yeah.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Okay Ultimate Girl strip Road. Trip so they announced this
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: At Brava. Con there's gonna be and they say it's
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: going to stop in every city where we have is
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: going to start and over, HERE o see and go.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Here, OKAY i need more.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Information are they picking up people as they go and
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: dropping other people?
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: OFF i don't. Understand is it like The Amazing? Race
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: is it like The? Challenge is it they're just in
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: a sprinter? VAN i need. More do you have any
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: information about?
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: THIS i have no. Information from WHAT i understood from the,
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: announcement and this might be, wrong was that there would
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: be like a group of women on the bus and
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: when they went to each, city they would then meet
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: with other women from that, city and so like you,
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: know SO i assume you get like one from each,
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: franchise one from each active. Franchise but then they'll go
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: and so they'll pull up To Orange county and they'll
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: be a, party and Then Lynn curtin will be, there
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: And lydia McLaughlin will be, there And Peggy's slahian will be.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: There no a bit about our roster of characters of,
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: that but AND i, assume because you, know the housewives
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: all know each, other there would definitely be someone from
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: that cast who would know those people who would be
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: on the, bus who would then be, like, oh let's introduce.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: THEM i think it's a really good idea AND i
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: think it's a great way to celebrate those twenty years of.
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: Housewives AND i do think that there's something like we
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: love a, rewatch we love a clip. Package, YEAH i
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: love the Vander pump like celebrate ten years of Vander pump.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Special and SO i think that For Ultimate Girls, trip
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: the nostalgia play is a good play where you get
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: to go and rewatch the best clips From Scary island
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: and clip clip, clip and you, know what are you
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: doing here Without duran and uh and you, know just
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: get a flavor of. That i'm curious who is going
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: to be on the.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Cast me, Too and but, OKAY i mean the idea
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: of a road trip as you go from POINT a
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: to POINT b and you stop in the. Middle but there's.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Nothing no stops in the. Middle, right it's west coast
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: to the east. Coast they could stop In, dallas In,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: atlanta they could go, down but there's no there's No.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Chicago you can't stop in anything in The.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: Midwest, no, girl how are they going to get To? Dubai,
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: okay we're gonna From dubai To George.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: County you're Gonna CHANELA i on on.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: There.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah SO i don't. KNOW i need more.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Information AND i like my idea of you, know starting
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: in oc picking up Some Beverly, hills going a little,
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: bit dropping some people In, dallas picking up a couple
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: of people up you.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Know WHAT i, MEAN i mixing up the. DYNAMICS i
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: don't know what it's going to.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: MEAN i, agree AND i think that that's a good,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: yeah because you want to kind of get as many
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: people as you. Can but, also oh my, god think
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: about all the hurt feelings about oh they picked, yeah
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: hurt over, me especially with The Roney legacy, girls you,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: know because fans are gonna want them all on, there
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: and they're gonna get one, maybe you, know and then
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: a bunch of them, visit but it would also be,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: cool like if they went To bluestone manor you, know
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: And dorinda's there with a bunch of, girls or you,
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: know or visiting like some of our favorite places or
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: places they'd been on trips, together or.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: What they bring Out Michelle salahi from D. C, oh my,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: god remember her crazy crazy.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: PANTS i wonder if they're gonna address any.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Of, that of like the people from past and the
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: and the scandals and, stuff.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Or just LIKE dc and The White house party, crashers and.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: No they act like we don't.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Exist they act they just they replaced us With. Potomac
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: and it's just by the. WAY i talked To tia
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: in the. Airport she was on my, flight AND i
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: didn't talk to her on the, flight but in the
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: airport we were getting our luggage AND i just, said you,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: KNOW i introduced myself AND i was chatting with. Her
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: and of, course you, Know, ingrid my, producer walks up and,
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: goes where where do you? Live because we're friendly With,
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: ashley And ashley And ingrid are at the gym together
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: and we've had dinner with her or. Whatever So ingram
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: was asking she wanted to know if this girl went
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: to her gym as, Well, Tia, yeah and.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: She, goes where do you live and she, goes, Oh Fairfax.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: CITY i was, like these.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: People don't even live In Maryland. Virginia just Like ashley
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: lives In. Arlington they don't even live In. Maryland they
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: don't live in the.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: State, well there's A twitter. ACCOUNT i forget what it,
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: is but they did maps of where everybody lives and
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: like highlighted the roots between some of their, houses and
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: like The Salt Lake city, ladies it's like a lot
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: of them live. Together and Then brittany lives like an hour,
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: away like down, south you, know Or Wendy esppho lived
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: like very far, yeah like much closer To, baltimore and so,
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: yeah it's again like forty five minutes an hour, away
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: and so, yeah well that's my thing about Ga Jude
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: ice on Next SHED. Nyc where they all live In
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: manhattan And gia lives In jersey and it's still their.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: Friend AND i was, LIKE i lived In manhattan for
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: close to twenty years AND i did not have a
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: single friend who lived In New. Jersey and when they
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: moved To New, jersey you might as well have stopped
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: being my friend BECAUSE i was never going to visit
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: you moved To Rhode.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Island.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Yeh this week On Real housewives Of, potomac we had
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: quite a scene with you, Know wendy And eddie are
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: redoing their whole house and Then wendy's mom comes over
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: And wendy can afford. It wendy can't afford. It look
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: how look at you see my? Handbag you see? This
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: wendy can't afford. IT i was, like, yikes, yeah it's not.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: Well and even in the premiere when she's like Happy
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: eddie's making money and, Yeah and that's what's so crazy
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: to me is you'll see a scene in this week's
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: Through houss Of Salt Lake city Where whitney And justin
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: have a very frank discussion about her, business what went,
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: wrong how she Blames, justin how she's trying to extricate
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: herself from the. Thing AND i Give whitney a lot
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: of credit in that the housewives are always, like my
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: business is going, great my business going, great and then
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: we see them fold quietly and, whatever AND i give
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: her a lot of credit for being, like it wasn't,
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: great it. Failed i'm dealing with. That you, know AND
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: i feel like fans relate to that honesty and that,
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: authenticity AND i Think wendy would have had a better
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: storyline to be like we overspent for a long. Time you,
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: know we're trying to work our way out of. IT i,
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: mean what's more relatable then being in debt and like, yeah,
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: yeah pay for, it like millions Of. Americans you. Know
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: it's like When Shannon bandor's storyline was losing, weight like
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: when she got big after the. Divorce it was like
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: the first time the housewif was, like, YEAH i got
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: too fat AND i needed to lose, weight like so.
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: Relatable AND i think that that's the mistake a lot
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: of these ladies, make is thinking that if they see
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: a chink in the, armor if they Think i'm not
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: as rich AS i, am if they don't believe the,
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: facade Then i'm. Doomed it's, like, no, like show us
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: behind the, facade show us your failed, business show us
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: your weight, gain show us the things that you are,
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: terrible and we'll love you for. It you.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Know, yeah, YEAH i think.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: That you, know even With kyle And marisio's, divorce her
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: being like she's the one that wanted the divorce and.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Everything but even being around him and like talking about
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: some of these, things she would start. Crying and it's
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: not because she's like dying to get back together with.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Him it's just like it's the hurt of being with
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: somebody for so many. YEARS i think that's the same,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: idea is like just show it all And god this
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: thing with. Me you, know you knew that when all
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: this stuff came, Out you're, Like, okay well now we're
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: going to be really watching this. Season and it's just
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: her mom out there just being like look at, me
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: and she's, like look at my, belt look at my.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Bag, Oh wendy's got the.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Money i'm, like, yikes, yea they claim all that stuff
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: on their inch.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: Well and also like that's why they ended up with money.
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: Problems it's.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Nut and then the whole thing that came out about
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: them having all these aliases and she now she really
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: hasn't addressed the other thing just to say that, like
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: thanks for your thoughts and, prayers but and we'll get
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: through this terrible time as if their house burned, down
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: but actually that's not what. Happened but but for her
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: to be like, that now that's absolutely not. True we
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: don't have all these. ALIASES i was, like, well, then,
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: right where did that come?
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: From? Then?
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well and that's the thing is there's going to
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: be a. Trial, yeah and we're going to learn all
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: this so.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: And hopefully they learn something from From karen and From.
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: Jinshaw the longer you drag it out and don't admit
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: what you, did the warst is going to be for you.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: When you get, sentenced because you're wasting the court's.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: Time, well AND i think that is the smart thing
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: That teresa, did which is, like we're going to plead
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: guilty and make a deal and you, know that way
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: they'll let one of us be home with the kids
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: while the other one goes to prison or you know.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: Whatever and, so you, KNOW i think that they would
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: be smart to make a deal because.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Lawyer AND i think he went to Like yale Or
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: harvard or something like he's a. Lawyer, yeah he's a
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: smart you.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: Know, yeah that's. YEAH i don't know about, this about
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: this whole. Case Like i'm fascinated, obviously But.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: I'm Watching potomac way closer THAN i normally do.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Normally, gosh kind of have it on in the, background
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: kind of half pay attention because it's not my favorite
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: even though it's my local. PEOPLE i Just i'm, Like
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: i'm just, like and Then i'm trying to figure out
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: why do they Hate stacy so? Bad they just don't
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: fucking hate. Her she can't do anything, right she can't
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: say anything. Right i'm, like, man and maybe she's that
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: annoying and we JUST i don't.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: KNOW i kind of get it in, that like she's
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: not playing by the same set of, rules AND i
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: think they find that, frustrating AND i understand, that BUT
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: i also find her fascinating to, watch and Like andy
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: clearly loves, her LIKE i think she's a great, housewife
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: BUT i do find it hard where she like won't
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: answer a question or she won't enter into a discussion
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: about these, things and the other women are, like that's
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: the point of the. Show and SO i think that
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: they get frustrated where they see her flourishing doing what
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: they're not supposed to, do and they feel, like you,
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: know it's Like derenda's fight With, Tinsley Like derenda was,
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: LIKE i bring it, ALL i am telling the. Truth
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: you see my whole, life and you're. Pretending AND i
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: don't see why you get to pretend AND i. Don't
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: AND i think that that's how they feel About stacey
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: M it's STILL i, rise still. RISE i mean she's
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: she's the only good housewife they. FOUND i, Mean TIA's,
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: Okay angel, Flop.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: LIKE i, agree don't Like.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Angel it looks like she gets evicted or something next.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: Week i'm, like WHAT i. Know and she doesn't seem
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: like cut out for the, show like she seems too thin,
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: skinned and, yeah like yeah she. Doesn't, Yeah i'm not having.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: It we'll, see we'll.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: See. Okay So Salt Lake, city LIKE i, said we're
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: recording this On. Tuesday it comes Out. Thursday So i'm
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: missing The Saltic. City can you tell me anything exciting
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: that happens On Salt Lake city that will already that'll
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: be on the Show wednesday night THAT i don't know.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Yet so they finally have that party where they're all
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: wearing the colonial. Waves, Okay and so It's bronwin's party
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: for getting her, citizenship WHICH i, mean how Is braunwin
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: Non american? Citizen that was crazy to. Me. Information, yeah
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: and so she has this, party she calls it a
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: spilling The tea, party and it's Like boston tea party,
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: THEMED i don't. Know and she plays this game where
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: she makes them right on bales of tea about who
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: they want to spill the tea. Against the game made no.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: SENSE i, Mean, goura who are on this? Table do you?
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Trust the least makes? Sense? Now the nastiest sex on
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: your phone makes. Sense this tea game. Crazy but it
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: ends up being a big fight Between whitney And meredith
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: And heather And meredith Because meredith is, saying, like you're
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: lying about WHAT i did on the, plane and they're, saying,
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: no we. Didn't like you're questioning our whole. Experience there
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: are other, witnesses you. Know and and that's WHAT i
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: don't get about meredith stance in, this which is there
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: are a bunch of people who all have the exact
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: same story and the same. Details you.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Think there are producers that also have the exact same
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: story that were in that first class section.
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: TOO i. Think SO i saw a TikTok from a
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: woman who used to be a reality. PRODUCER i, WISH i,
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: MEAN i need to write down the names of people
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: Who i've watched on social, media, Apparently but and she
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: was saying like there could have been people from, production
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: but they could have been like sound. People they could
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: have been you, know the bookers who arrange the, flights
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: like not the producers who they like talk, to who
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: the field producers who work in the. Scenes and she
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: was pointing out that at the end of a trip like,
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: that those people want to clock out as, well like
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: they've been working very, hard like they would probably be
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: on a different. Flight so, YEAH i, mean BUT i
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: also think That bravo loves to do. This it's like
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: when they know the, truth sometimes they keep the truth
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: away from us because it's more exciting to argue about
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: it and to talk about it than it is to
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: know whether or Not meredith actually did. This but, Like
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: Heather gay is not a, Liar Mary cosby is not a, liar,
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: right you, know Like whitney and she. Yah, yeah but.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: Like And brittany is known too exactly exactly, right right
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: exactly she would film. It can you imagine she would
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: have gotten your phone out and been filming like up her,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: nose like behind her With meredith yelling that would have been.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Great, well but everybody, says like why did any of
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: them film? It remember When brittany filmed last, Season meredith
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: went even crazier on, her and you think one of
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: them is going to get out of their. Phone and
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: If meredith was behaving like that, act you know she
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: would act even crazier like on the. Plane and, so,
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: YEAH i don't know what to. Believe But whitney and
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: And heather were very, convincing saying, like this is our,
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: experience and you're telling us that we are making it
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: up when you know you're the one making it. Up
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: and so that's kind of the big conflict of the.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Episode but, again there was a that my favorite part
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: was the conversation Between whitney And justin about their business
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: and what went. Wrong AND i think that that's what's
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: been great about this season Of Salt Lake city is
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: that not only are the group scenes, amazing you have
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: like these conversations with Bron when and her mother and
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: Bron win And. Todd you have conversations With lisa And
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: john about their. Marriage you Have heather talking about her
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: children and them going, away and these really like, honest
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: frank difficult conversations that we're not seeing.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Anywhere, else And mary and her son.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: Exactly and SO i think that that's why the show
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: is so good is because when they're together it's, amazing
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: and when they're, apart it's. Amazing and you, know and
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: even when a lot of the shows are, good it's
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: like you kind of get one or the, other like
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: either the group scene are great or the personal needs are.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: Great you don't get. Both and this is really. Delivering
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: BUT i, mean it's they're having such a good. Season
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: don't change a thing in. Fight everybody, back, like don't
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: mess with, perfection you, Know.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah it's so interesting too that on this show
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: we've Got, brittany who everybody kind of, hates and then
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: over but tell, me we've Got, stacy where everybody kind of.
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: Hates it's like these are like the girls that like
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: wouldn't get invited to at the lunch.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: Table and you're, like, oh kind of this.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: Kind of, age you kind of like them because you're, like,
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: oh buy so mean to, them you, KNOW i.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: Know but there's a difference between the two of, them
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: and That stacy seems up to the, task like up
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: to the, job And brittany does. Not but those conversations
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: With brittany and her daughter are, like you, Know i'm
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: here for. That it's, like, okay if that means you
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: have to beat Up brittany on a trip just so
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: we can see how this plays. Out like, Fine i'm
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: In oh my.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: God, well last question about THE oc, is are are
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: you the writer That taylor's been talking to the.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Thing trying to figure out who it? Is because we
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: got to know. Him we have to know, him, Right
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: oh my, god we.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: Must but unless it's just SOME i don't, know this
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: whole thing seems fishy to. Me And i'll tell you. Why.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: Okay If tamra was leaking to me as a, writer
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: which she is, NOT i, MEAN i talked to very
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: few housewives and IF i, do it's usually on the
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: record and you read a transcript of. It but if
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: she was leaking to this, guy why would this guy
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: then go and tell Everyone tamra was leaking to? Him
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: and Then tamra is no longer leaking to.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Him, yeah and now he's lost.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: That he's lost that, right like he he has nothing
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: to gain by Exposing tamra unless he wants one of
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: the other ladies to leak to. Him but if they
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: are mad That tamer's, leaking why would they? Leak And i'm,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: SORRY i Believe tamar when she, Says i've been on
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: the show for fifteen seasons and this never, happened and
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: now Suddenly gretchen's back and it's. Happening like to, me
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: this Has slade's fingerprints all over. It AND i feel
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: like at the reunion they Gave gretchen a pass both
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: on that and on the stuff about these like liking
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: these homophobic, posts and she says, LIKE i don't align with.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: THAT i don't align with. THAT i don't align with.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: That if you voted For, trump you align with. That,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: like even if you don't personally believe, it you're putting
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: people in office who align themselves with those. Policies and
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: so you, know Like heather brings up like in my
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: feed it's like puppies and rapping videos and, whatever and
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: your feed is full of these hate accounts that you're
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: like liking that you followed it one point or. Another
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: and So i'm, Sorry, gretchen you do align with, that
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: and that you don't see that is part of the.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Problem, Yeah AND i.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Feel like she didn't instead of like thou dost protest too,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: much thou dost protest too? Little you, know it was
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: it was as she did get a pass because she
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: turned it around On tamra to be, like you're the
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: one that was leaking. Storylines AND i think Because andy
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: really Likes tamra a, lot and you, like you never
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: know who he really likes and, why but he really
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Likes tamar a. Lot and you could see sort of
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: at the end when she sat down with him and
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: we're saying to him face to, face, like you, KNOW
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: i never did, That like now we do know that
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: throughout the, season PEOPLE i, know And i'm sure people
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: you Know tamra was telling them, things but not to
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: the level of detail that when they sat down and
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: heard that.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: Call, well AND i.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 3: Mean anyone who interviews, housewives you know at the end
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: you get a little gossip that's off the record that
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: you know. Whatever but also If tamra's telling these like,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: storylines like who? Cares like those things are out there
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: if you want them or. Not and WHEN i did
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: research for my Book The housewives of The Real story
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: Behind Their, housewives you, KNOW i talked to people who
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: worked at the tabloids and they would get these, leaks
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: often from, Producers so, like there are plenty of people
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: who know this stuff that could be leaking. It and
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: even if they, do so, What we're still gonna watch the.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Show like it's not going to change. Anything it's not
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: like you're giving away the winner Of, Survivor like, well
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: that's What i'm.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Saying the way that they sat around that phone and
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: listen to that guy, say and then In New orleans
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: this and then, this and they're, like.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Oh she gave away our whole.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: SEASON i was, like this is not like the ending
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: Of Stranger things where people have been waiting ten years
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: to see what's gonna, happen OR i mean a show
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: like that where it's like the end of The sopranos.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Explained like they're acting like, right they're acting like this
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: was our whole.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Season she gave it.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: Away it's, like, well she gave it away to this one,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: person And i'm just dying to know who it.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Is if you find, out what you tell, Me oh my, god.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: IF i find, Out i'll tell the, World LIKE i
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: would be like publishing that, absolutely BUT i MEAN i
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: feel like we know. IT i, mean it's Like Slate
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: smiley And GRETCHA rossi most LIKELY i would guess allegedly
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: all the, caveats but.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: Putting it out to somebody that's like an.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: Instagrammer, yeah it's like you have to look at who
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: has something to gain from, this and they're the only
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: ones who have anything to. Gain interesting because the person
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: coming forward has nothing to gain AND i have.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Something to lose because they're losing their source by.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: Spilling actually yeah, right and so that so it never
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: that whole thing was weird to, me and that they're
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: suddenly gonna come out and be, like, Oh tama's. Leaking but,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: also you, know to your, point as soon as they
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: land In New, orleans their fans see them, filming take
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: their pictures put on social. Media we know they're on their,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: trip and right they get in a fight at the.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: Restaurant someone's like there were this restaurant, Fighting like if
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: you want.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: To write ran, out, yeah, yeah yeah.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: Exactly and then tammar quits on social media and so
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: then everyone starts looking through everyone else's social media and
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: like figuring it. Out and so if you want to
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: figure that stuff, out you, could but most fans don't. Care,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: uh they just want to watch the. Show yeah.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah And i'm one of those people THAT i don't
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: like things to be, spoiled to be spoiled for me too.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: MUCH i don't like to.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: Know but you, know it was interesting in that last
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: season Of Bander Pump rules with the. Scandabal it was
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: interesting to watch it because they started with it and
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: then we saw how we got there because we knew it,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: before you.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: Know and you also see like the details and you
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: see Like arianna reacting to him in that scene where she's,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: LIKE i never should have trusted you, Whatever and it's
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: still like great, Television like even If i'm just going
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: to say, scandabal like we know exactly what, happened but
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: you still want to watch unfold and you want to
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: watch how it affects these, People AND i think that that's,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: yeah like the. Details who cares about the.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: Details, well, LISTEN i think we've covered. Everything we covered
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: all the, gossip we covered the shows that are, on
• 1:06:19
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