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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Destiny Payton SPILLS on Arionne, Martell & LAMH Cast Drama! · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives of Atlanta, New Jersey,
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, the Love.
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  Speaker 2: And Marriage franchise and Bell Collective.
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  Speaker 1: Every episode, we recap reality television from the Real Housewives
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  Speaker 1: franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. in addition to
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  Speaker 1: celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or scripted as well.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, Raindrops.
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  Speaker 1: On today's episode of Reality with the King, I am
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  Speaker 1: sitting with a cast member from my show, Love and
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  Speaker 1: Marriage Huntsville. This woman has been the talk of the
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  Speaker 1: Huntsville town all season. So, of course, I had to
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  Speaker 1: make sure to invite her for her first exclusive one-on-one interview,
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  Speaker 1: not only with me, but about this show. Give it
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  Speaker 1: up for the one, the only, Destiny Payton.
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  Speaker 3: What's up, Los? I see that I can be inspiring
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  Speaker 3: to you, just like I can be inspiring to some neighbors. But,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we'll talk about that later. You look good, though. Well,
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  Speaker 3: thank you. This is a Detroit thing.
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: We're wearing cream. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Because we are the light.
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  Speaker 2: Is that what it is?
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  Speaker 3: It is. In darkness. We are the light.
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  Speaker 2: Who's dark in your life?
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  Speaker 3: In my life or at my job?
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  Speaker 2: Which one? I am W. Well, listen. I have to
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  Speaker 2: say this.
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  Speaker 1: This season... of Love and Marriage Huntsville's off the chain.
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  Speaker 1: But I do want to say this to you as
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  Speaker 1: we kick off my official series of talking to my
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  Speaker 1: Love and Marriage Huntsville cast members.
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  Speaker 2: So you're the first one. That I want.
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  Speaker 3: Should be the only, but that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: Not too much, Destiny.
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  Speaker 3: Not too much. No, all our girls and people, let
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  Speaker 3: me just say cast deserves.
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  Speaker 1: No, this cast is, I will go on record always
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  Speaker 1: saying this cast is like the best. Like what you
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  Speaker 1: guys give to this program. I'm so appreciative. But I
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  Speaker 1: want to give you your 10.
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  Speaker 2: Because, no, true life.
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  Speaker 1: I have this co-host on my, you know, I have
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  Speaker 1: this show called Monday Night Live.
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  Speaker 3: Shameless plug.
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  Speaker 2: You may have heard of it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we get like 10,000 live people a night
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  Speaker 1: on Mondays.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, all right.
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  Speaker 2: But I have this guy named Dustin Ross who you
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  Speaker 2: may have heard of. He's from Flint, Michigan. Yeah, Michigander.
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  Speaker 3: He may have interviewed you too.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny because last season, and Dustin never calls me.
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  Speaker 2: He called me and he said, Lowe's.
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  Speaker 5: You know how Destiny talks?
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  Speaker 1: Lowe's.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, yes. Yeah, Destiny's taking it. She's like the
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  Speaker 2: most improved reality star of the decade. And I'm like, okay.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny because I remember.
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  Speaker 3: He gives me hell.
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  Speaker 2: I remember back in the day.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, he still be throwing little jabs in there, but
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  Speaker 3: he gave me hell.
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  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: Tino Shahid, hell. He gave me hell.
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  Speaker 2: I will say this. You've been through hell, right? You've
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  Speaker 2: been through hell and back.
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  Speaker 3: But God.
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  Speaker 2: But God.
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  Speaker 1: And God is the only one that gets the credit.
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  Speaker 1: But this feels different, Destiny. And I'm so excited to
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  Speaker 1: talk to you about it because I've been in this
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  Speaker 1: game for 20 years. I will go on record saying
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  Speaker 1: I've never seen a reality star go through the shit
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  Speaker 1: you have gone through on this show where there were
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  Speaker 1: audience members who demanded you be fired.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, well, the rumor is I was.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right. And we cleared that up already.
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  Speaker 3: But they still saying it.
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  Speaker 2: They still say, child, they still say things. I'm like, girl,
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  Speaker 2: who cares?
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  Speaker 1: Like, I remember, and I'm sure you do too, like
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  Speaker 1: the bitch roll that came your way.
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  Speaker 2: But you have emerged....
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  Speaker 1: As a formidable player on this show to the point.
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  Speaker 2: Where I.
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  Speaker 1: Only see overwhelmingly positive comments about you. Talk to me,
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  Speaker 1: first and foremost, how does that feel to know that
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  Speaker 1: you're on the other side?
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  Speaker 3: You live by the applause, you die by the boos.
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  Speaker 3: And I was booed for a long time. And I'm
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  Speaker 3: still standing.
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  Speaker 5: So.
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  Speaker 3: I'm grateful. I'm grateful that people are, are able to
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  Speaker 3: see more of destiny. Cause I think, um, I came
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  Speaker 3: into a space where there was this tight knit core
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  Speaker 3: group of the core no more. They used to be
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  Speaker 3: the core six and the core no more. There was
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  Speaker 3: this unwritten hierarchy that you kind of came in and
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  Speaker 3: you got in your place and all that. And I
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  Speaker 3: think I was a little bit dehumanized because they were
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  Speaker 3: able to say she's aggressive or she's You know, she's angry.
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  Speaker 3: She's broke.
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  Speaker 2: She's needy.
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  Speaker 3: It was all the things that they said about me.
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  Speaker 2: When you say that, you mean the cast?
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  Speaker 3: Correct. Yeah. The cast. Former cast members. They created a
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  Speaker 3: narrative before I really knew my voice in the space.
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  Speaker 3: Because I'm a girl.
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  Speaker 2: I'm from Detroit.
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  Speaker 3: Like, you don't feed it to don't grow, right? Feed
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  Speaker 3: it to don't grow.
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  Speaker 2: Whatever.
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  Speaker 3: But that doesn't work in reality TV. If you don't
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  Speaker 3: feed it, somebody else tells your story. Somebody else is
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  Speaker 3: able to create your character for you. And I learned
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  Speaker 3: that the hard way. And I think... with a great
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  Speaker 3: gift from a great, great boss who talked me into
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  Speaker 3: something I didn't want to do, which is go to
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  Speaker 3: Detroit and show my family the root. People, I think,
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  Speaker 3: got a chance to see why I'm the way I am,
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  Speaker 3: why I'm guarded at times, why I don't play about
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  Speaker 3: myself and why I have to defend myself to the
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  Speaker 3: way that I do. And I think that opened doors
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  Speaker 3: to people to see me more as a human because
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  Speaker 3: people were, they were okay with like, just, bashing me
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  Speaker 3: and and dicks and I'm not playing victim it is
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  Speaker 3: what it is it's par for the course but I
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  Speaker 3: was going through a lot like I was carrying a
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  Speaker 3: lot a lot a lot a lot and then legally
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  Speaker 3: some of the things I couldn't even talk about so
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  Speaker 3: my voice was silenced um but here.
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  Speaker 1: I am no here you are and listen thank you
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  Speaker 1: for acknowledging that because I really made sure that my
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  Speaker 1: production had the budget To go to Detroit to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that we told your story, because I said to them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this was last season, of course. And I'm like, look,
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  Speaker 1: the audience doesn't really know her because, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: in your previous relationship, we just weren't allowed to talk
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  Speaker 1: about that for legal reasons. And even at one of
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  Speaker 1: your first reunions, and I asked you, because I knew
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  Speaker 1: I had to ask for the audience to hear me
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  Speaker 1: ask you this so that you can answer in your way.
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  Speaker 2: You answered it.
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  Speaker 5: Fully, but still legally, we couldn't air everything.
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  Speaker 2: Legally, we just couldn't. But you answered everything.
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  Speaker 1: And I always felt that you were put in this
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  Speaker 1: position where you wanted to tell people everything, Legally, you
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  Speaker 1: just could not. And the only thing I was able
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  Speaker 1: to control was like, I'm able to control making sure
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  Speaker 1: she is talking about things that legally she can. And
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  Speaker 1: that's who you are as a girl from Detroit, your mom,
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  Speaker 1: all those things. And it was my decision to make
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  Speaker 1: sure we went to Detroit.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we found a couple of dollars to go.
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  Speaker 4: Because I'm like, we have to make this work because-
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  Speaker 4: I digress.
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  Speaker 1: It was my mission. And I said this to you
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  Speaker 1: when I called you and I said, look, I fought
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  Speaker 1: for Kenya Moore on Atlanta Housewives to go to Detroit
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  Speaker 1: because at that time the world just did not understand Kenya.
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  Speaker 1: And I told Bravo, I said, can I please get
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  Speaker 1: some money to take Kenya to Detroit? Because I think
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  Speaker 1: once people see her childhood, they'll understand.
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  Speaker 2: Her a little bit better. And thank God we did.
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  Speaker 2: And it happened. And thank God we did. And you
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  Speaker 2: did it. You did not want to do it.
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  Speaker 3: No. Up until the moment.
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  Speaker 1: And I remember telling production, because they said to me, Lo,
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't want to go.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm going to be honest with y'all. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: I'm like.
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  Speaker 3: We're already in Detroit now.
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  Speaker 2: Um... I fought for this to happen. And look, it's
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  Speaker 2: for your benefit.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, I'm doing something nice and I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to like help the girls.
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  Speaker 3: But it's crazy because my mama wanted it. My bio mother,
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  Speaker 3: she is a star. Like she has, she's lived a
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  Speaker 3: hard life, but she has always been a star. And
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  Speaker 3: it was a hard scene. I think this is probably
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  Speaker 3: the worst space I've seen her in. And I wasn't,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know that because I talked to her about,
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  Speaker 3: via my grandmother on a FaceTime call every now and again,
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  Speaker 3: she'll pop up on my aunt's or be with her,
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  Speaker 3: but she still showed up because she wanted to show up.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't have to convince her. She was, she was like,
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  Speaker 3: this is overdue. I was supposed to be a long
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  Speaker 3: time ago, but I, I, I really, um, it was
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  Speaker 3: healing for me. One to be in the space as
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  Speaker 3: a big sister with siblings that I just met and
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  Speaker 3: to be able to be like the protector of them.
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  Speaker 3: Like my brother got arrested. So it wasn't me. And, um,
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  Speaker 3: to hear her singing and to like get that little, that, that,
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  Speaker 3: that part of her spirit out that is, was passed
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  Speaker 3: on to me. Cause I've been singing since I was six.
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  Speaker 3: And a lot of people don't know that from the show. And, um,
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  Speaker 3: it was just, it was hard. It was raw, but
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  Speaker 3: it was real.
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  Speaker 2: It was real. Yeah, do you regret doing it?
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  Speaker 3: No, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: I thought you were so vulnerable and I told production,
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  Speaker 1: I said, let her lead you guys. Because the way
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  Speaker 1: it works in our field, producers lead you guys to
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  Speaker 1: be like, let's do this, talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, let's be a fly on the wall.
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  Speaker 1: If she wants to not talk about this anymore, don't
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  Speaker 1: stop her.
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  Speaker 2: Let her leave. And I got a call. They said, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she's done. She's done. I said, okay. Yeah, and I
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  Speaker 2: called you.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I said it. I said it. I said it.
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  Speaker 3: They probably said it. I said, Carlos said, when I'm done,
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  Speaker 3: I'm done. Camera's down. Carlos said. And they were like, ooh.
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  Speaker 3: Because at first they were like, oh, wait, what's she doing?
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, uh-uh. Carlos said, I'm done.
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  Speaker 2: I got the call. I said, they said, she's done.
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  Speaker 2: I said, okay.
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  Speaker 1: But no, it was, I loved it because I felt
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  Speaker 1: it was an opportunity for the audience to get to
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  Speaker 1: know the real you. And once again, we were able
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  Speaker 1: to see the, the, the fruitfulness of your full life.
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  Speaker 1: You talk about being a singer at six years old.
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  Speaker 1: So like, you are now a part.
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  Speaker 5: Of the number one show on Oprah Winfrey Network. Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Okay. How does it feel to know that you're like famous?
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  Speaker 1: You are a celebrity and like you're being celebrated. Like
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  Speaker 1: is that little girl like, did she know.
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  Speaker 2: This would come?
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  Speaker 3: Not in this way because singing was my first love.
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  Speaker 3: And then I went to performing arts college in LA
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  Speaker 3: and singing and acting, got my degree, all those things.
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  Speaker 3: And so reality TV was taboo. When I started performing
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  Speaker 3: arts college, it was like, oh no, as an actress, singer,
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  Speaker 3: you don't touch reality TV. But during that time, NeNe
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  Speaker 3: Leakes was transitioning into Glee and acting. And I actually
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  Speaker 3: did background on Glee with NeNe Leakes.
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 3: While I was in LA, yeah. I did a lot
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  Speaker 3: of background work. That's how I paid my bills. And
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  Speaker 3: that's how I got my SAG-E card. Now I'm SAG-AFTRA.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, baby.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, uh-huh.
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  Speaker 5: Reunion.
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  Speaker 3: You paid your bills? Well, no, because y'all don't have
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  Speaker 3: reunion in Huntsville.
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  Speaker 1: What?
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  Speaker 2: Y'all don't have you in a hotel.
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  Speaker 3: But when I go back to LA, I will. But no.
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  Speaker 3: So I actually was like, oh, wow, this is different.
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  Speaker 3: Like this is a transition to the industry being accepting
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  Speaker 3: of reality stars in the acting world and respected. And
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  Speaker 3: I give all. credit to the queen, Nene. And I
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  Speaker 3: watched it as I was being trained as an actress
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  Speaker 3: in LA. And so, yeah, that's, I still haven't, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I still get in trouble with my assistant and people
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  Speaker 3: that I move with. They're like, Destiny, you can't just
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  Speaker 3: move like, cause I'm like, what? My friend like, put
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  Speaker 3: that wig on. You going outside looking like that? I'm like, girl, what?
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  Speaker 2: You can recognize a lot now?
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  Speaker 4: I do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes I catch the little glimpse and people try to
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  Speaker 3: act like it's not. But sometimes I'm just like, la, la, la.
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  Speaker 3: And I'll sit there and tell you my whole business.
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  Speaker 3: And they're like, I know who you are. After. Like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: my God.
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  Speaker 5: No, the show's a huge hit.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to ask you this because, you know,
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  Speaker 1: one of the things I want to do is to
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  Speaker 1: be able to make sure you have this platform to
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  Speaker 1: say everything you want to say, right? Um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there are people who believe that you use.
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  Speaker 2: The Holts when they were married to get on the show. Uh, huh?
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's be real clear. I actually was at multiple
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  Speaker 3: events and it is our current showrunner that actually was
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  Speaker 3: the person that walked up to me at, I think
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  Speaker 3: the second event that I came to that the Holts
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  Speaker 3: were hosting. And he was like, who are you? why
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  Speaker 3: don't we see more of you? And that night, we
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  Speaker 3: ended up going to dinner and it was with somebody
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  Speaker 3: from Kingdom Reign.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know.
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  Speaker 3: I was just being Destiny. And I heard someone say,
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  Speaker 3: you see why I need her? You see why I
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  Speaker 3: need her? And I'm like, what's that about? Then I
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  Speaker 3: find out later, like, I was being cast and didn't
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  Speaker 3: know I was being cast, which I don't think it
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  Speaker 3: was an intention, but it happened.
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  Speaker 1: Like, oh....
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  Speaker 3: I like her. And this is what I was told.
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  Speaker 3: So I didn't use the holts. It happened organically.
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  Speaker 2: I got a phone call from those producers.
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  Speaker 5: And they.
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  Speaker 1: Because, you know, we felt like the holts needed an
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  Speaker 1: additional friend group. Because at the time, this is season two,
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  Speaker 1: and Martel and Marcel had that big argument about the
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  Speaker 1: 20 women allegation thing. And it felt like it was
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  Speaker 1: the Scots versus the Holts. And as producers, we always
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  Speaker 1: like to try our best to keep things even so
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like it's one person against a group
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  Speaker 1: of people. And they called me and said, there's this
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  Speaker 1: woman named Destiny who's married and she's friends with the Holts.
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  Speaker 2: We think she'll be good. And I trust them. And
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  Speaker 2: then we had a Zoom meeting.
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  Speaker 3: Well, my Zoom meeting was something totally different. Remember I
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  Speaker 3: had paid for a consult to pitch a show to you?
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  Speaker 2: Yes!
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  Speaker 3: Before I was even... Didn't even think about being on
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  Speaker 3: Love & Marriage Huntsville.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: And you were like, wait a minute, you know I've
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  Speaker 3: heard about you.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you paid.
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  Speaker 5: For a consultation to do something else in another location.
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  Speaker 3: Correct, correct, correct.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, but I heard about you. Why don't
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  Speaker 2: you want to do Huntsville? You said.
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  Speaker 5: It's not that I don't want to do it. I
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  Speaker 5: haven't been asked, formally asked to do it.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm on my own thing. And I said, well,
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  Speaker 2: this thing is working now.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, reality is that I was actually on
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  Speaker 3: season one. Y'all had that first package.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: And then I came in on the end when they
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  Speaker 3: extended it.
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  Speaker 5: 1B. We had an extension.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 2: It was 1B. OG. Do you consider yourself an OG?
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  Speaker 3: I consider myself original gangster, yes. Yes, I do.
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  Speaker 2: The thing is this. When you started filming.
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  Speaker 1: Love and Marriage Huntsville, what was that experience like for
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  Speaker 1: you at that time? Did you feel like you had
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  Speaker 1: to be or were you told to be loyal to
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  Speaker 1: the Holtz?
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  Speaker 5: And fight against the Scots? Was that something?
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  Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. Actually, what I felt like was, and
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  Speaker 3: to be totally transparent, you can tell me if I'm wrong,
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  Speaker 3: I felt like I was brought in to be a
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  Speaker 3: former castmate's support.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I didn't really know her. I knew Martel,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: and I met her through Martel, and it was like,
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: we just had a good vibe, and we kind of
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: built our friendship and, well, relationship together. our relationship on
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: the show and it was built in like a microwave
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: if that makes sense quickly good vibes good energy and
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: then when we had a a moment of hardship it
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: didn't sustain because it wasn't it had been built quickly
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: if that makes sense did.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: You ever felt like the friendship between you and her
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: was genuine or was it just biz was it did
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: you feel like it It ended up being business, but
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: you maybe have thought it was like genuine.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Yes. Duality. That's the thing that I call the social
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: experiment of reality TV is duality. You have two things
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: can be true at the same time.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: And that's the reason why even on my podcast, I
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: always talk about there's like this alliance that most cast
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: members have on these reality shows. Did you feel like
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: there was an alliance there that y'all needed?
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: In order for it to work? Or did you feel
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: like you were a pawn being used?
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: Eventually I felt like a pawn, but initially it was
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: just free game. Like, I don't think it was an alliance.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: It was like, you know, we're building this friendship and
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: get to know the other people freely is what I
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: was told. You know, hey, I'm not gonna try to
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: stop that. And then when I started getting to know
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: people because I'm a people person, I'm a real girl's girl,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: contrary to popular belief, it became a problem. And it's like,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: if this was a problem, that's what you should have said.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Not that that may have changed much, but it was
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: ushered in. Like, get to know these people yourself. And
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: that's what I did.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Do you think that when it came to your friendship
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: with the Hoes, that this show.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Tainted it?
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Or was it different agendas you felt like was happening
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: that you just weren't privy to?
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: I think it was a lot I wasn't privy to.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: but I think that the cameras change a lot of people.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: You do?
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: In what way?
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Well, I felt.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: I.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: Might get in trouble for saying this. I felt at
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: the Mondani relaunch. Re-re-re-re-re-re-launch.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Can we be real?
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: That was good.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. One thing I love
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: about this genre, I love when another cast maker say, okay, bitch,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: you ain't that.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: The re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing. When you're an entrepreneur, people, they re.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: We have to re-re-re-re-re-re. You have to reinvent yourself. You
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: got to re-buy. You got to re-do. And that's the
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: thing that I feel like, one, I show, even though
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: it was good, bad, and indifferent, like, this is the real. Like,
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: this is the real of how businesses are written. You
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: don't just start a business. It's like, ooh, I'm a millionaire. Yeah.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: That's not real. And then you have me with life
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: in between all of those things. Divorce, all that, kids,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: dad getting sick, all those things happen in like a
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: two-year span. So at the Madonna relaunch, I remember standing
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: there and I was like, am I in the Twilight Zone?
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: I was telling my daddy like, I want to go
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: ahead and beat these bitches up. And that was like,
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: I'm a business owner. I'm a mom now. I was
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: a wife for two seconds. And all these things happen.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, these people are asking me why am
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: I upset about these things? Y'all know what's happened. Y'all
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: know what's happened behind the scenes, which was way worse
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: than on camera with some of these cast members. Let's
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: be real clear. And I'm sitting there like, I'm the
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: only one with a performing arts degree in all these
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: months because it's acting. Acting like they don't see what's
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: really going on. Acting like you don't see that we
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: just had beef with this person two days ago. And
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I'm like, and they're like, what's wrong with you? Why
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: are you upset? Why are you acting this way? And
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: I'm like, weren't y'all there?
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Weren't y'all there?
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Kind of like, you know, episode that just happened. You know, just,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: what the hell?
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: What the hell?
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Like, why are we not being 100? Why are we
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: not being authentic in the space? Because, you know, it's
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: reality TV and it's supposed to be real, right? But
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I feel like some people, they don't give the real, real.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: if that makes sense. Some people hold back.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Who do you think is the cast member on Love
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: and Match Huntsville that doesn't keep it.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Real the most?
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: The most? I think that if people got to know
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: the people... I can't say who, who, who. But I
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: think that Well, Nell is herself. She crazy all day,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: every day. And I love her to death.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I was just watching an episode that's coming out months
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: from down the line. Nell may have said motherfucker and
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: fuck every two seconds. But I was on the plane
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: watching it, laughing like Miss Nell.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Because that's her.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: Don't even see a camera.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: That's her. Right?
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, girl.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: But I laughed because I'm like, she is so authentically herself.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: She said motherfucker twice.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: In one sentence, and I was here for it. But
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: go ahead.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: But if I would say anybody, I would say the
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: core no more would benefit more of showing who they are.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Who they really are. I love Baltimore Kimmy. I love
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Miami Reese. I love cool laid back Marceau. And I
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: love bubbly housewife Tisha. Those people are great. When they
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: turn into other people, it's like, who that is? How
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: about who this woman? I do not know this man.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. To this man. I do not know this man.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: When it comes to Kimmy, what we have seen this
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: season is the two of you kicked things off where
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Kimmy felt like on a podcast you did with Chase
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: on NoChaserTV that, you know, pretty much saying the same thing.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: You didn't feel like the authenticity was there. I'm paraphrasing,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: of course. And she felt like that was something you
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: should have said to her. You and Kimmy, since season
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: one B.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: One of the first moments you've had with a cast
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: member was about chicken.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: You know, your ex-husband's line of business.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: It wasn't specifically about chicken. It was about the condescending
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: nature of how she presented us, which, look at that.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Isn't it the same now? Y'all just didn't know me
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: and y'all just didn't like me because she was a favorite.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: And I came in and I was honest and confronted
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: the situation as I saw it, which was, oh, you
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: were trying to be shady. I caught it. And it
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: was like, who is this girl? She coming in, it's
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: our favorite. And that's got me in trouble a lot
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: on the show because I say things that are sometimes
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: not palatable. I can own that. And I say things
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: to people's favorites that they don't really want to see
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: in that light.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: You felt that at that time, season 1B, when you
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: confronted Kimmy about being condescending, you felt that because at
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: that time, Kimmy was considered the fan favorite.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I didn't know. I just knew she said something about
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: my then person. So it was like, whoever I love,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: I'm going to defend. It's an innate thing in me.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: And that's what I felt.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: And are you saying that because the audience felt she
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: was a fan favorite?
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, they drug me for filth. They drug me for
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: filth after that chicken moment. I was like, well, whatever.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: I said what I said.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Did the negative comments.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: come as a shot because I remember when I first
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: hosted the Hollywood Divas reunion. It was my first time
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: doing that job.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: And you had, I'm way more pulled up than you are.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: And I, wait, I'm sorry. That is, that's history right there.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: That is, that is legendary. But that's R & B Divas,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: my bad.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: It's still legendary though.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Hazelina Johnson.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I'm way more pulled up than you.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: But I remember that was my first time experiencing negative comments.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: And I felt it. And I wasn't okay. Like, I'm
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: being very honest with you. This was, of course, like
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: over 10 years ago. But I remember my first experience
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: with negative comments.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Do you remember yours?
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Well, it definitely happened with the Kimmy and the chicken
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: situation for sure.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: But.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know how to say this any other way,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: but I was the popular girl who always had negative comments,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: who always ended up at a school where a girl
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: out of nowhere just didn't like me. And I didn't
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: even know the girl's name. I can name a few
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: incidents that happened that way. And I'm like, you don't
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: like me? I don't even know who you are. Like,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: why do you not like me? So I think my
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: skin was a little tougher than most coming into the situation.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: And I'm from Detroit. Like, let's be clear. It's a
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: right of passage to fight. I mean, and that's not
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: me trying to be like, oh, I'm rah-rah. But it's
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: the truth. And so I don't think that it landed
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: on me. I was in the comments, though. I was slaying. Like, what?
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: I said what I said and whatever. But then I
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: realized now that doesn't do anything. It is what it is.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: People just say what they say and it is what
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: it is. They believe what they believe. You can try
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: to convince them, but some people are going to either
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: be in the middle, they're going to love you, or
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: they're just going to try to find a way to
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: be confused about you. And I, I accept it.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Kimmy did a recent interview. I'm not sure if you
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: saw it, um, where she said that she feels like
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: you get a lot of protection from production. Um, do
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: you know what.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Did you see the interview?
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: I think I know what you're talking about.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: She pretty much intimated that, um, you're protected by production and, um, they, the,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: They call themselves the core six. You have another day
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: for them.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Where the six of them at? The core no more.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: So she said that, you know, they had to go
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: through the mud and show everything.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: She feels like when it comes to certain people, and
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: she did say your name, that she feels like you don't,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, she feels like, you get a certain
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: type of treatment and that editing is in your favor.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: What she's saying that season one through 100, what she's
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: saying that when they have been, I feel like protected.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: I feel like the Scots have definitely, I'm not going
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: to say favorable edit, but I feel like they present
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: a way and I'm not going to say protected because
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: I feel like people give what they give. But I
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: think that's actually comical. I think I've been shown in
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: every light that I could possibly be shown in, good, bad,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: or indifferent. And I feel like Kimmy has been a
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: fan favorite for 111 seasons. And eventually, your mask slips.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: And that's with everybody. Not just Kimmy. Because you can
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: be like, you said this in an interview about everybody.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: I definitely don't get the favorable edit, y'all.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Nobody. This is the crazy part.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: And listen, I don't mind saying this, and Kimmy will
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: be on my couch because she and I have.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: After me. But she'll be on your couch when? She
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: should be.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Destiny, please.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: What I do, what I did.
• 29:38
  Speaker 5: So I will say that Kim.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: and I had.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: The crazy part is, I'm going to say this.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Go ahead.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: I actually, when I say I love Baltimore Kimmy, the
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: one that be swinging her neck and talking and getting
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: me together at my house. She came and cooked for
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: me after my dad passed.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: She brought.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: She called me consistently when she knew he was going
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: through his transition. This is going to be hard. She's
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: a nurse, so she knows. This is going to be hard, Destiny.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: And so, even after leaving me in the airport stranded
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: with tumbleweeds, she showed up for me during one of
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: the most difficult times of my life. So, I'm not
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: going to ever not give credit when credit is due.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: She did. And so, for her to feel like I
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: get the favorite girl, please. But, I'm going to give...
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: One of the things I would never do is be fake.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: So did I feel a way about the airport? Did
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: I feel a way about how I've been treated? She
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: was one of the first people that said I didn't
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: deserve to be on this platform. Like we're not all working.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: And I thought that was very unfair and kind of,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, like what did we know about her at
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: that point? But she was a nurse. That's all we
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: knew was nurse Kimmy. But I didn't say you didn't
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: need this job. You shouldn't be here on this platform.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I felt like that was really, as she says, in
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: poor taste. Um, but I, again, there's duality. There's duality.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: She showed up for me in moments where cameras weren't there.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: And so I'm going to give her her credit for that.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: And I appreciate her for that. And I loved getting
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: drunk with her at my house and her swinging that
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: ponytail with that pretty big hair telling me and everybody
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: else off. That's Kimmy I love.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: You love that Kimmy.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Love that Kimmy.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: What do you say when people say Kimmy is not
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: a girl's girl? Do you agree with that?
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: Um, I think she's a Maurice girl.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: That's, I mean, like.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: What's a Maurice girl?
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: That's her world. That's her man. That's her, you know.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: And I love Reese. Like, Reese is like, for real,
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: if I had to pick a big brother out of
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: this crew, people probably don't know that, it would be him. Like,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Maurice is, he's like a big brother. He reminds me
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: of my big brother, actually.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, he has great affinity for you.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my dog.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: And you've seen the scenes where even when you and
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Kim worked at the best, He has always been like.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: We've also made a lot of money together. He's a
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: real lawyer. Let's be clear. So that might be why
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: he got a little affinity because we done made a
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: lot of money together. He's a real lawyer. He's won
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: a lot of money for me. Thank you, Reese. Thank you.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, we love that. We love that. We love that.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, so maybe the audience, like you said, see that
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: she's about her man, her man, her man. And maybe
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the audience... Because I'm sure you've seen the comments where...
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: people have said like, especially this season, they have said
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: she's not a girl's girl. And that when she's in
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: scenes with women, she seems disinterested.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I don't know. What scenes with women?
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Well, this season, they're saying this when they saw the
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: scenes with her, Tisha, and Arianne.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: And I would be disinterested too.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: We'll get that in a second.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, sorry.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: No, it's okay.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: It's okay.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: You can write the comment after I said it.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: Why would she?
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: And then there was a scene when Tisha brought her
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: and Nell together to address their issue.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know what it is. Kimmy can't stand Nell.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: What do you think it is?
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: Okay, this is my feeling. This is my thoughts. People
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: get mad when I say my perception because they think
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: perception is not reality. When I say that's my perception
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: of a situation, just FYI, for anything that I've said
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: in the past, because perception is reality. If I perceive
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: it a way, that's my reality. I just feel like,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: you know, you ain't never seen Kimmy come Baltimore until
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: you seen her say, bitch. And I was like, oh,
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: there she go. Yeah, that's Kimmy. But I know now
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: going to be, and bitch back.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: And I don't give a damn, bitch.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: It was so many bitches on that reunion. I was like.
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: No, I literally was like.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: And you sat next to me and you was like.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of now, listen. The....
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Friendship that you and Nell have is so sweet. You know, listen,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: you and her have, like you said last season, where
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: she's kind of like.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: I'm.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Not saying motherly because of age. I'm not saying that.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: But, you know, you have this affection for her because
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: of her... feeling like somebody that can, like, give you
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: great advice and tell you.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: You've been said it. You're like, I don't mind when
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: you tell me I'm wrong.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: At all.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Like, I actually appreciate it.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: My real friends do that.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: And if I understand where you're coming from, I'll receive it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Talk to me about your friendship with Nell because you
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: two are very close.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: So my friendship with Nell, I was introduced to Nell
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: and Chris from the Holts before TV. And you know,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: it took Nell a time to actually want to come
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: on the show. So her and I were developing in
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: a relationship where I was on camera, she wasn't. I'd
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: pull up to the daycare, we'd sit and talk. She'd
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: come by the house. So she prayed for us. When
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: we talk about those back porch conversations with the host,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: I was there too. I was there as a married
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: woman too. And so I've seen a side of Nell
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: that most don't get to see. When that lady start praying,
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: when I tell you you get chills over your body,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Like she has some prophetic things in her. And even
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: in that moment, she was in the position of caretaking
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: with her mother and her mother was transitioning. And the
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: moments that she got to hang out with us was
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: like life for her. And so I fell in love
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: with her in those moments. And we've had some rough patches.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: I didn't check Chris and me and her didn't got
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: into it about that. And so I feel like we've
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: been through things. We've argued hard. We've been in hard spaces,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: I would say. things that I feel like we both acknowledge,
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: we talked through, we got through. And hell, she cussed
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: me out the other day. I mean, so it's just,
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: it's par for the course with Nell. I mean, I'm
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: used to it.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: You don't know what cuss out until you've been cussed
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: out by Nell. Nell cussed me out a few months ago.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: And I was literally on the phone like this.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: Like this hurts.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: What I'm going to say, I.
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: Said, and I literally said, I understand Ms.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Nell. Yeah. I get it. I'm not doing that.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: It's just her. And I promise you, her heart is pure.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: She can have a moment.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: She messy.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Messy. But I love her and I know her heart
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: is pure.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I want to get into this season of Love and
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Marriage Huntsville.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: You and Tisha were very close at one point. Very close.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: And you and Tisha went through a lot.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: And come in. It's okay. It's okay.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: I feel like... Thank you, love. I feel... Okay, are
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: we doing this?
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: No, go ahead. This is reality with the king, baby.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Okay, reality, reality. So I really feel like... I think
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Tisha's a beautiful soul. And I think that Tisha is.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Thank you, love. I think that she's a beautiful soul.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: But I think that sometimes what's required of her.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Makes her operate in a space that's not really authentically her.
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: And sometimes it is because I'm still trying to figure
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: out what we fighting about. Well, she got something to
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: fight with me about now.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: She be mad now. Stay tuned. Something happened last week.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: So when this scene happens, come back and watch this
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: interview because this, something crazy happened last week that May
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: change everything.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, it should. I don't give a damn. But at
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: this point, I've told people. Okay, I'm getting off topic. Tisha,
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: I think, is a beautiful woman. A great mother.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Great mother.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Dress her tail off.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Gorgeous.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Beautiful woman. But I think that she doesn't know that.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: I think that she needs to really believe it. And
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: then I think that her disdain and issues with me
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: would be a lot smaller.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: When you say that, because when I look at Tisha,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I see this beautiful woman, like you said, all the things.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: A great mother, dresses her ass off, and Listen, I
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: know you guys aren't the best right now, but from
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: my vantage point, I think Tisha Scott is one of
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: the sweetest women ever.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: She was.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay. Okay, so... Okay.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: When you say you wish that who she presents on
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: the outside that she believes because she is that girl,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: why has that, though, affected your relationship with her? Is
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: it because you're so confident that.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: I didn't... see that, but I couldn't understand what we
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: were fighting about. And I had that same situation happen
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: prior with the previous cast member. Like I didn't understand
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: what we were fighting about. And I think that because
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: even in my peaks and valleys, I still, I'm still destiny.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: You know, even if I'm not as brazen or like,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: you know, loud with my light, I'm still me. I've
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: never had to search for who I was. I had
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: to reinvent myself. I had to you know be different
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: in different spaces but still core of myself me there's
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: things that I saw her do a podcast and I
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: poured into you and we poured into each other because
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: I wanted her to see her as big as I
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: saw her as beautiful as I saw her as I
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: see her and I think it When the whole beef
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: and banter started, I was like, this is a moment.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: I'm going to let her have it. She's going through
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: some stuff.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Got to be.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: But then it kept going. And it kept going. And
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: it kept going. I'm like, I'm still trying to figure
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: out what the root of our problem is. And it
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: really didn't have anything rooted in it. But I feel
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: like she was able to make it bigger because of
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: her own insecurities. And that's just me being honest. And
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: it's unfortunate because I took Tisha to the hood. I
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: took her to the west side of Detroit. My grandmother's porch.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Some of my closest friends have never even been there.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: Because I really believed that we were building something genuine.
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: And when you start fighting with me about nothing, and
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: you can come into a space and try to belittle
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: me when I'm building myself back up, I was like,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: what's that about? Like, I need you to figure that out. Like,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: it ain't me. I've done nothing. Well, I have now.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: But before.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: There was no need for me and Tisha to be crying.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: At the reunion, I stopped myself from crying because here
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: I am again crying over a friendship or relationship or
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: this social experiment ship. But I just wish that she
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: saw herself as big as I see her. And it
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: probably will never be something that she receives because we're
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: not in a good space, but that's just real.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I actually feel the sincerity in that. I don't think
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: that was shade. I don't think that was you being messy.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I will say, me sitting here and knowing you, I 100%
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: believe that you are sincere when you say that. May
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I ask if you feel like your stardom affected your
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: friendships with Tisha and Melody?
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Yes, because as soon as my light started to shine,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: it was put out with, she's aggressive, she's a liar,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: she's a this, she's a that. Because I don't think that,
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: I didn't even see it in the moment. I was
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: just like, what is going on? I always end up
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: getting blindsided by the situation. But at the same time,
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: with Tisha, I had already had the experience. With Tisha,
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: I had already had the experience. So I kind of
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: was like, is this what I felt?
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: It felt familiar.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: With your previous relationship.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Friendship. Correct.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: And for me, and I always say this, all of
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: my friends, my 30-year, my 20-year friendships, my 15-year friendships,
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: they're all beautiful, successful, paid women. We pull up and
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: everybody got a foreign. And I know that there was
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: a narrative created that somebody took care of me and
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: gave me all this money. Well, that's not even the case.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Not even actually accurate. There was nothing that was given
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: that wasn't reciprocated. And we were talking about monetarily. And
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: then why the hell would I need a woman to
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: give me $ 6, 000 when I got a whole daddy? God
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: rest his soul. And I thought that in those moments
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: of me giving, them giving, that it was like a
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: reciprocal thing.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: But it was a.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: I'm going to use this later. Because I just saw
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Tisha do an interview. All the things that I poured
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: into you, we did for you. And you're insinuating because
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: people take, I realize there's a playbook when it comes
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: to Destiny. It's like, oh, she's a liar. Oh, I
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: gave to her when she was broke or she's broke
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: or she's aggressive. It's a playbook that was written before
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: the Scots used it. It was written by my previous
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: cast member. And it worked for a certain amount of time.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: It worked for me to be not believed when I
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: said anything. It worked for people to think that I
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: was needy. It worked for people to think that I
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: was broke. When I care for an infant child by
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: myself with a nanny, with a 4,000 square foot home,
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: with a beautiful Mercedes, a soccer mom car. Now, I
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: did hide it a couple months because, you know, I
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: had to pay other bills, but that's me being transparent.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: It was in the garage. But I'm just saying, I've
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: always been honest about what I go through and what
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: I've been through because everybody can relate. Who can't relate
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: to that? Did you ever hide a car?
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: No.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Look, look, look, look. No, no.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: But you being from Detroit, you'll get this. I would
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: hide from catching the bus. Ah. Because you know Detroit
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: is a motor city. So the idea of being in
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: your 20s.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: Without a car.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Without a car in Detroit.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: And you worked at a radio station then.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Because you know that I found out. We used to
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: be in parties together in Detroit. And I didn't even know.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: My cousin reminded me. She was like, you don't know Dorian?
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: He worked at the radio station. You remember Carlos? And
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: I'm like. She's like, we went up there. And I
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: was like, I don't.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Is that crazy?
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: And Ellis used to throw the parties.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yes.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: And she was like, Carlos was there? I was like, what?
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: Look at that.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: No, look how God is.
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying?
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: No.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: So I know what that feels like in terms of
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: having to not be at your best place and you're embarrassed.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: But I'm like you.
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: And I wasn't embarrassed. My thing is, when I came
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: to Love and Marriage Huntsville- I was making so much
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: money in the career that I was in. Nella tell you,
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: she was like, well, shit, you going to marry this
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: man and leave that money?
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't do it if I was you.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: This is for real. She said this to me because
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: I did well. I did well. Before I came on
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: the show, I actually gave up everything to start a business,
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: to be married, to become a mom and all the things.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: And then COVID hit, divorce hit. I had a baby
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: during COVID, during a divorce. My dad got sick. All
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: these things happen, like I said, in a 24 month span.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: And I'm trying to figure it out in the process.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: And was I broke? Yeah, but it wasn't your type
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: of broke. I mean, I still was paying mortgages and
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: car notes and nannies and things like that. But did
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: I have it to be like flexing?
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: No.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: And I was honest about that. I was real honest
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: about that. But I'm from Detroit. The home of the hustlers.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: We're going to always figure it out.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: We're going to be good. God willing, God gets all
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: the credit.
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: Absolutely. But that's the other reason we all grew up
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: also knowing that God.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Is our ruler.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Period. I wouldn't have made it through that season of life.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: If people go back, and I still do it now,
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: I only hashtag but God because I didn't have any
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: other words.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: I didn't have any other words. Like every day I
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: was making it and being able to get up and
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: move forward and be a mom and go through postpartum
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: and go through a divorce and go through all the
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: things that I went through because what God? That's just real. Yeah.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: When it comes to you and Tisha now, what we're
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: going to see this season is the two of you
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: tried to get back to a decent place.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: Agree to disagree.
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: Is it safe to say that....
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Will things ever be the same between you and Tisha?
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think so.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: No.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: And I was very definitive about a previous relationship. It's
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: certain things that you see and that you go through
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: that I don't think you can come back from. And
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: the thing that I call this reality world, a social experiment,
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: the only people that I didn't have to build a
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: real relationship with inside of the experiment was Martel and Nell.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: It's only two people. I knew Marcel since I was
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: 15 and I met Nell through the holds, but it
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: was prior to her really being a cast member. And
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: we kind of built, and I didn't even realize it
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: until I kind of talked through it in therapy, was
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: that the foundations were built outside of this. And sometimes
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: when it's lights, camera, action, you get what you get.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: And you got to be prepared for that. People turn
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: and the drop of a dime.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: Do you think the Scots have turned on you at
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: the drop of a dime for a storyline that or
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: to keep you at bay to be a non-main cast member?
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: I think both of those things are true. And I
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: wouldn't say all the Scots, but I would say the
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: ones that I've had the experiences with absolutely felt like
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: there's an unwritten hierarchy when you come on this show.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: And the core six make sure they let you know it.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: The core no more, I'm sorry. They make sure to
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: let you know that you're a plus one and kiss
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: the ring. And I ain't never kissed nothing that I
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: ain't want to kiss. And I ain't going to.
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: When you say that, because obviously it's fascinating because this
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: is my show.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I created it.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: So when you say that, and in your defense, I
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: have heard that before. In your defense, I have heard that.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: What does that look like, though? Is it verbatim?
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, it's not verbatim. It's like, look how you're
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: talking to me. And I'm like, well, I'm just expressing
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: how I feel. Well, shut your yap. And it's like,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: you don't deserve to be here. And oh, bitch. And oh, well, Destiny,
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: you're not a real friend. It's all these things that
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: kind of put you in this box. It's like, what
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: the hell are you talking about? Like, we're all adults
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: having conversations and hard conversations and dealing with hard stuff.
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: It's also at the reunion. Hey, everybody, come take a
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: picture with Carlos. Not you extras.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Damn, Destiny. Why am I in it?
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying. Am I lying? Blink twice. Am I lying?
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: That's all I want to know.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: I may.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: Open your eyes when you cry. <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL>.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> <HAL> Or Lynn look like you?
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: I know. Lynn's my twin, apparently.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: Apparently. He a little bit more saucy than you, salt
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: and pepper than you, but.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Probably not die if I should.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: I thought we took the Beijing King from you.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: From the top to the bottom. Damn, I got to
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: stick this over, man.
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: Pause.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: No, I will say this, because the beauty of this
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: being my platform, I can obviously be honest because I
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: am honest.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: It's my shit.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Period.
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: I definitely have heard that.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: I definitely have been privy to when it's time to
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: take pictures.
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: I definitely 100% have heard.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Just the- Cord no more.
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: Just the cord.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: It's different sectors.
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: And it's disrespectful because it wouldn't be a show without
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: an ensemble.
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: 100%.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Listen, I've always said this. I'm the king of this shit.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: So when I say this shit, I mean it. And
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: this is me doing Atlanta Housewives first season. Like the
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: biggest black female ensemble show.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: In the world.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: To date.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: To date.
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: So I know what I'm talking about. And then I
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: created the second.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: It's, you know.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: My point is this. What I will say is In
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: ensemble shows, yes, there are breakout stars. Just like it's
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: breakout stars in girl groups in the music business. It's
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: breakout stars in the NBA. It's breakout stars in any
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: group situation.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: It's bound to happen.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Group projects in high school. You know what I'm saying?
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: It's a cheerleading team. We're not going to act like
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: this is something new. So in an ensemble TV show, obviously, scripted, unscripted.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: There's a breakout star.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: However, in my Kimmy voice, it doesn't mean that that
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: one person is the sole reason the show is successful.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: What that means is this one person has generated a
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: lot of conversation and it's fruitful for the ensemble. But
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: you can remove that one person or that person can
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: remove themselves from it And.
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: The shit still moves.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: The show still goes on.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: The show still goes on and it has been proven over. Again,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking about this show.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: Every show.
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: And every group. It goes on and on and on.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: So my point is, I have heard that. I've also
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: heard things that, you know, someone may have said. allegedly,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: because I wasn't there, but I've heard this from multiple people.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: This my shit. I'm the star of the show.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. You know.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's on lives if you can find it.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: Anyways.
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: This my shit. You don't come in my shit. This
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: my shit. Like, oh, wow.
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: I have heard that.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: And the one thing I always say is, and I'm
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: going to say this to you, and that's why I
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: appreciate it at the top of this interview when you said, like, look,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: you know, um, It's nice to receive the love from
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: the fans today, but when you live for.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: The applause, you die by the booze, because it's true.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: And I'm so happy you said that, because as a producer,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: what I will say, and this is the first time
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: that I'm saying this publicly, one thing producers, it's the
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: saddest day for us, is when a cast member says,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: I'm the star of the show, and this is my shit.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: And the reason why it's a sad day for.
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: Us is because we know It's a demise after that.
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: You will never be the same. You will never be
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: the same. You just won't.
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: And you can be confident and you can.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: All those things, but when you say those things, it's
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: only downhill from there because you have created this false
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: sense of reality.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Because you're bigger than the program.
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, and it's sad.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: And I literally have experienced that throughout my entire career where...
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: The moment I hear it, something dies within the production
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: in terms of.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: And within that person. Because that's... You're actually conforming to ego.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: I don't like that.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: And I've told all my cast members, like, look, I'm
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: all for y'all jonesing on each other.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: I like that.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: But I know how that must feel. And that's why
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I do want to acknowledge your feelings... And I want
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: you to be aware that I have definitely have said, like,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: I don't want my show to ever exhibit that.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: If I'm able to control it.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: To a certain extent, because you're dealing with grown people
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: who have egos, who have moments. And that's one of
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: the things that I have, I've witnessed people, like, be
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: on the, I call it the line of darkness. They
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: teeter-totter on the... I'm, and it's like, where's God at
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: in that? Where's God at in you being this big person?
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Because you wouldn't be this light if you didn't have God.
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: And when you start removing God and working an ego,
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: nothing but darkness comes from that. And you see it
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: and you see people fall and fall hard because of that.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: And that's when people say, oh, well, Destiny, you're the, no,
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: I'm just me.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: I'm just me.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: And I'm grateful for the opportunity and I'm appreciative of
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: the opportunity and, I'm just going to keep being authentically myself, good, bad,
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: or indifferent.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Well, we are seeing that this season because Martel's girlfriend, Arianne,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: is on the show this season.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: And we have.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Seen that there seems to be some energy that.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: She has with you. Yeah.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: There seems to be this issue that she has with
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: you being Martell's best friend and how uncomfortable she is
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: with that.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: Best friend?
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: This best friend thing is crazy work.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: What do you make of this?
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: What I made of it because it was new to
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: me on camera. I didn't experience it off camera. What
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: I made of it is I've finally been chosen. I've
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: been brought out of the dark and I'm going to
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: say how I feel. Because I felt this way in
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: the dark. In the shadows. No pun intended. Pun intended.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: I feel like what everybody kind of says is there
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: will always be, regardless of who it is, that insecurity
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: because of how you move with him while he was married.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: So you can always feel that way. It can be
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: the under trash lady. It ain't gotta be me. But
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: I think that what makes it worse is that now
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: we go through a rough patch, a real, real rough
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: patch this season and he martells for sure. But I
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: think that we have a genuine friendship and a genuine
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: love for each other that she doesn't understand because it
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: wasn't built off of none of the stuff they got
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: going on. It was built off genuine friendship, knowing each
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: other for a long time, experiencing life And then coming
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: back as friends. And I think that is, that can
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: be intimidating to someone. And I don't take that away
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: from her at all. But I don't know how to,
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: I didn't understand it because it was new to me.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: Let me just say that. Because I've invited this woman into,
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: not even invited because he brought her, let me be
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: real clear. I'm like, oh, I didn't know she was
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: going to be here. But I digress. This is your
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: son's mother. This is the title that I was given.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: And so in this space with her being present on
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: the show, it's been hard. I'm not going to hold you.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: It's been hard because I'm a person that I can't
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: deal with situations that take me too much out of
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: character because I like to fight. I mean, I'm just saying.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Why are you laughing?
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Because I know you're being honest. I am.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: And I was like, you know, I can't be in
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: these spaces because I will fight. And I'm like, this
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: is not good. This is not good for me. It's
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: not good for my brand. It's not good for just
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: any of this stuff. And I got a lot of
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: stuff to lose. And I have to be smarter. But
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: some levels of low I don't experience because I don't
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: put myself in spaces with people that would go that low. Hmm.
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: And so when I was triggered, I'm like, Oh Lord,
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't even have no words. Make your
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: head blow off. So yeah, it's been a, it's been
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: an interesting season to say the least, but I'm gonna get,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna get drugged for this cause I always find
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: the why. And people, like even with Tisha, I understood
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: her why, behind what was going on with us. She
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: just took it too far. I understand the why where
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Martell and I are in this space right now. But
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: sometimes people take it too far.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: And.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: I feel like in the space that he's in and
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: he's trying to make the situation work because I feel
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: like it's like a guilt thing. Like I lost my
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: family and I got this beautiful son now and I
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: got to make this work. But it's... Some people operate
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: in their worst spaces with people that they shouldn't be with.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Do you think Arianne brings out the worst in Martel?
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: 100.
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: Because a real woman will pull him back from his
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: antics because Martel going Martel if you let him. She
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: feeds it. And it looks like, oh, Bonnie and Clyde,
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: but it's like, this is not good for you overall, period.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: And that's just my opinion. I can't tell him what
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: to do with his life or who to be with,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: but if I'm looking at it from the outside, and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: I would want a friend to say the same thing
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: to me. Now, he didn't ask. When he asked, I
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: did tell him how I felt. Like I would want
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: a friend to do to me, you know?
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: You recently saw.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: Kimmy and Tisha sit with Arianne. You know, this was
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: a woman who accused her husband of sleeping with linebackers,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: you know, interviewed Marcel's alleged mistress, and has been involved.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: And I got on to Martell about that, by the way,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: since y'all think I don't hold him accountable. I'm the
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: only one that does, but I digress.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: What did you think of that scene between Tisha, Kimmy,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: and Arianne?
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: It was another Twilight Zone scene because what the, what
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: are we doing? What do you mean you're a clean slate?
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: Because you still mad at me because I said your
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: husband didn't protect you. You still mad at me? It's
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: almost two years later, a year and a half at least.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: But you sit down with a woman that said that
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: your husband was in every hole that she had. And
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: you're like, well, I'm going to let bygones be bygones.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: And we're going to start with a clean slate.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: What?
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: What in a twilight zone are we experiencing right now?
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: I think the scene, I wish they had the same
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: energy they have for me as they have for her.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: Because again, there's a hierarchy that I stepped in. This
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: lady stepped into the hierarchy and she didn't have any
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: of the experiences that I had.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: Why is that?
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: Skrrt.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: Who's scared? Skrrt. Who's skrrt?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't... And this is what I said to Tisha.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: I said, don't be letting this lady come in here
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: and make you scared or whatever. I said, let that
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: man cheat in peace.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Let who cheat in peace?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: Whoever.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Tisha's man?
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: I said, tell that lady to let your man cheat
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: in peace.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: You told Tisha... to your man should cheat in peace.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: No, I didn't say he should. I said take their
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: power away.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: If people are saying this, this is me being a friend.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: This is some real shit right here. Tell them, I
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: don't care what you got. Let my man cheat in
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: peace and leave me the hell alone. Don't be sitting
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: around here cowering. And the craziest part about the scene,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: let's be, okay, let's scratch that out at the end
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: of the interview because this is the shit that really matter.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: You sat up there and kiki with this girl and
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: talked about me Y'all were damn near forming an alliance
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: to take DP out. It'd be a cold day in
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: hell that a bird would be able to take me
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: out with anybody.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: You don't like women?
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: Leave me alone, Destiny!
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: Damn!
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Leave me alone. That's my sentiment exactly. I've said that
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: all season long. I said it last season. Leave me alone. No, no.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: As the old folks say, let alone. Let alone.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: I always play Michael Jackson's song, Leave Me Alone.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: I just be like, leave me alone.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: I don't bother anybody. When people bring me the smoke,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: I let them blow it in my face a few times.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: And then it's like, listen, motherfucker.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Hey.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: And then it's like, oh, she's crazy. Because I've taken...
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: I'm a Taurus. We take it and we take it
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: and we take it. Watch a bull in their natural habitat.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: They're docile.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: They don't bother nobody. They graze. But when you start
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: waving that red flag and poking and poking, when a
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: bull go, they go. So just leave me alone. Leave me.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: Let alone.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Let alone.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: You didn't appreciate when you heard Ariana and Tisha talk
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: about you and the Martell friendship and your character.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: You don't like that.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: I was elated about it, Carlos. I thought it was
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: a great scene. I thought they were being very authentic.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: I thought they were very welcoming to her. I could
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: see them forming a real friendship.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: Social media has said that the reason why they believe
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Kimmy and Tisha did not even go as hard on
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: Ariana for addressing the issues.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: That she has.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: The allegation, excuse me, that she has alleged against their
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: husbands is because they did not want the truth to
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: come out on camera. Somebody said that when Marcel encouraged
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Tisha to give Ariana a chance, it was to lessen
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: the blow in terms of what she may know.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Do you agree with that?
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: I wasn't there. I can't say what Marcel was doing
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: or why he was doing it. But what I can
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: say is the energy was real different when I made
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: statements like, hey, stop saying I don't protect you in
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: rooms because your husband don't protect you. He turned into,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: why would you listen to her? She's, look at the source.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: Look at her. She can't keep a husband and has
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: run through men like crazy. That was the response that
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: he got. But with her, it's like, oh no, she
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: gets to know her for who she is. Get to
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: know her. So you decide.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: There is a moment where you and Arianne almost come
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: face to face in a way that was.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Emotionally... I.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: Like that verbiage.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, you know.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: I'm a real journalist.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: That Detroit high school education.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: Hey, journalist.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: No. You know, you....
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 5: Listen, I said this on my live show. I mean, it's... Wow, right?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: But there's another wild moment that comes later in the season, apparently.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: But this moment I'm talking about is, you know, you...
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Tell Arion that, look, you're very tolerable. You tolerated being
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: called a peasant. You tolerated Sheree. You tolerated his ex-wife.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: You know this is what you do. And she made
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: a comment saying that something about your son not getting
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: into the school and you lost it and had to
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: be held back. What was it about that moment where
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: you felt like, oh my God, the Detroit Destiny is
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: about to let.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Go and let have?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Don't ever bring my child into an adult conversation, disagreement,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: or anything. He has no place in it. Nobody's child does. Period.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: I don't play by mine. And... she was losing the
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: argument and her grasp was something about my kid and
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: she was about to try to make it negative and derogatory.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 3: And I just blacked out because my son had no
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: place in anything, period. The thing that I have always
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: felt like held me back from saying a lot of
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: things is because I know all these people's children And
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: I love all their children. And I protect all their children.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: I even go at bloggers like, hey, that know me
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: or like me. Hey, don't talk about the kids. Leave
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: the kids out of it. That is a level of
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: low that is just, it's beyond hell. Like, leave these
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: babies out of it. They didn't ask to be here.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: They don't have nothing to do with it.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: I'm still healing. Like I've been doing a lot of work,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: but my kid, I just, I've never been in spaces
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: with other people that will bring up my child. And
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 3: so that just took me completely like, Hey, I'm ready.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: I got some work to do.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: No, I mean, in all fairness, listen, like I said,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: my experience in reality television, the women have always said
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: from all the shows I've.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: Done, it's been two deal breakers. Let's not break up children.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: And let's not shame each other's businesses.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: Bitch, talk about me, my face, my body, whatever. Like,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: let's go. But my husband even, I don't give a shit, right?
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: Don't break up my children. and try not to.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 5: Like, talk to me about my business.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: That's how I feed my children.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: That's how we really make our money for real, for real,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: for real on these shows. So, like, let's not go
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: there with each other because there's other shit we can
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: talk about and that has been a peg that I've seen. So,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: I think, respectfully, I understand how It can take you
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: out of like, okay, you're going to a place that
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: you may not know.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: I will go there with you. Cameras or no cameras.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: Period.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: And this is my first season even showing Law again.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: Because I shielded him for a long time because I'm like,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: let me get myself together. Let me find my footing
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: in this space. Because he was newborn when I showed
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: him on television. He's six now. And my baby ain't
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: going to never not see me take up for him.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: I'm taking your head off every time. But I got
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: to work on that because people know that's my trigger
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: because you brought somebody on the season before to try
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: to talk about my kid. And that was a no go.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: And I said that at the reunion, that's a no go.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: And it's still a no go. But I got to
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: work on that. That's something I have to work on.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think. Nobody.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: What I'm just saying in general.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: Yes. Okay. All right.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: Um, I'm just saying.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: We really had a wrong conversation. I'm getting lost in
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: the conversation. Okay.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: Listen.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: The public have had a very expected emotional reaction to
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Arianne being on the show. I knew what was coming
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: the moment me and the network decided to be like, okay,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: we're really doing this. Um.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: The backlash has- I bet that was a hard decision.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: You said what?
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: I bet that was a hard decision.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: Well, it was a hard decision.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: When you learned Arianne was joining the show, how did
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: you feel about that?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: For transparency, Martella and I talked about it for years
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: and how that would be and what it would look
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: like and all the things. I was shocked to learn
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: that it would be in this capacity- And as much
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: as it's been, because I know they were actually co-parenting
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: and like, I don't know if he was trying to
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: figure it out. He was in and out, in and out,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: in and out. So I wasn't really shocked, but I
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: was shocked by her having an issue with me. That's
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: what shocked me.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: Without giving too much away. By the way, this is
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: an incredible season. This season, I will go down, listen,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: I will say this on the record.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: I will say this.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: This is the most unpredictable season of Love and Match
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: Huntsville in the history of the show. It's, it's, it's, it's,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: you know how like the past season, we kind of
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: like knew, even when things were at its height, like,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: We kind of knew how it would.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: End because it had to end.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: Some situations had to just end. Some of them didn't.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: It just went on and on and on. You know?
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: And on and on.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 5: And on and on. This one is so unpredictable.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: It's... I'm... I get giddy.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: When I get an email from my team saying, here's
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: the latest episode for you to look at.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: And I'm like... I feel like a Ken McKinnon story.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: Like, I get to, like, look at these episodes before
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: the world does.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: And it's an incredible season. Without giving too much away,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: tell the raindrop what's to come.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: I know. Right? No destiny. Can I say something? I'm
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: going to give them a little teaser. Okay. There's a scene.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: That was set up by the Fletchers.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: For you and Martel to talk.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: It is 15 minutes. It's a two-parter. 15 minutes?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: That's half the episode.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: I know. And we have to carry it to a
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: future episode. Come back and watch this interview.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: It's the most fascinating conversation. I want to give the
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: raindrops one thing he said.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 5: Oh, shit.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: That made me holler. The way you yell at Martel.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: Would y'all ball hit your ass? Shit.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: I'm literally in my Uber going to the gym. It's
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: such a privilege to watch these episodes. I'll be like,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: I'm watching my phone. I got my pre-workout drink and
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: I'm watching it. My Uber driver knows no idea who
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: I am. And I am gagging. And when you said
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: that I screamed, he stopped and said, you okay? I said,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: I'm watching TV. But.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: By the way, you looked amazing in that scene.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, well, thank you.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 5: The lighting was good. The hair was good.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: It was like a little half pony.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: Uh-huh, uh-huh.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: That was a mess. That was a very, very interesting,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: a very interesting day turning to evening. Because he martell
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: for a long time before he got the bald-headed statement.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: So I'm very patient.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: You were. You actually were. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: I was very patient, but I was just like, you ball.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: I don't know what I said. I really don't, because
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: I was in the moment.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: That part just stayed with me, but I will say,
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: this is.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: An incredible season. It really is. I need a raise.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: Ah!
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: And we're not like those other girls. I just want
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: to say, I don't know what they getting paid, but baby,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: that ain't what we get paid. I don't know what
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: that standard is they trying to put on you, baby,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: because it ain't the same.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: We are not the same.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: We are not the same.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: Of course, anything that's positive, I don't get no credit
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: because he takes credit for everything.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: Listen, we are not the same. I promise you.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: I'm going to move on.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: If that's even a thing.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: Okay. Are you dating anybody right now?
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: What happened was, I think that Madonna is doing an
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• 1:15:49
  Speaker 3: My candles ain't been relaunched. My candles are available at MadonnaBeauty.com.
• 1:15:53
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• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: to add a QR code.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: Perfect. I love it.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: Because I want to make sure you win.
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  Speaker 3: Love it.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: And I love you.
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  Speaker 3: I was supposed to have one sitting right here, but
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: I forgot.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. It's fine. So you see it right
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: here at the bottom of the screen. It's a QR code.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: So rain drops. It is the holiday season. And I
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to be like you when I grow up.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: Great interview with Funky Dineva. Yes. I watched it.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: Did you? I did.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: I support. I support you guys.
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  Speaker 3: I love that. I love that. I love that. I'm
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: working on new music with Q Parker. Dennis McKinney is
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: actually coming in as well. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: Another Detroit art?
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: And then I did EP a independent film. So I
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: am working and I wrote some grief journals because I
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: feel like it's necessary for me to put my healing
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: in a space that can help heal others. So I
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: have a Madani Grief Journal that showcases you or helps
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: you navigate before, after, in the middle, all the things.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: And also I'm doing a grief retreat. So everybody that's
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: dealing with grief or past it, because I've talked to
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: people like I'm angry and they feel these, you know,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: different emotions. And I wanted to bring people into a
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: space where they can actually vacay. They can actually talk
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: to someone. They can actually heal.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: And.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: That's some of the things that I'm working on. Law
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: has his own series of books, Law the Lawyer. He
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 3: also has a cartoon that's going to be available soon
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: to watch. So I'm just staying busy. I'm just like
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: feeding into my creative side has ignited even more now
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: that my energy is not going to caretake as much
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: because my father has transitioned, who was the love of
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: my life, my everything. And I'm using my.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: Creativity and turning my pain into purpose and as far
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: as I see how I segway from your question I
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: know I know it's okay but I will say this
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: Destiny ain't never had a shortage of of course well
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: people be like oh this single woman is dating all
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: these people that's what I'm supposed to do I'm not
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: supposed to date while I'm married like some people well
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: So Okay, Love and Marriage Huntsville, every Saturday, 8 o'clock,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: 7 central, on the Oprah Roofing Network. I want to
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: say this to you give me your hand your father's
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: very proud of you listen I tell the world all
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: the time daughters are the greatest gifts for dads besides
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: their wives and I know all the work you've done
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: to take care of that man and he is looking
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: down on you he's proud of you And as somebody
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: who lost a parent myself, and I said this to
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: you personally, I'll say it publicly, you have a permanent
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: guardian angel who's going to watch over you. And you're
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: going to see so many blessings unfold because, you know,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: I always tell people a deceased parent is now having
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to work alongside God.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? And it's a beautiful thing.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: You know, I told him that when he didn't want
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: to let go, he was fighting. And I had to
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: whisper to him, I said, let go. Yeah. Like, oh,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: you can do so much more for me in the
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: spirit world.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: Him and my godmother. And your godmother, yes. Yes.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 5: And you'll see it. You'll see it. You will absolutely
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 5: see it.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: And on top of that, you are an incredible, incredible addition.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: To this show.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 5: And the many people told me to fire you to
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: get rid of you.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: Including Kimmy. No, the comments, you crazy girl.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: Love you, girl.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: Be a saint.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: All I'm saying is, and it's funny, I'm going to
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: say this until I've never said this to you before.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to end on this.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: I had somebody ask me when we did our Zoom
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: interview when that was the season that you decided to leave.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: And I cleared the air that you did not get
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: fired because she did not get fired. And I had
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: a friend of mine ask like, you like Destiny. I said,
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: I love me some Destiny.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: And I said, she has the I and the T.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: And I said, I believe in her. I said, I
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: really do believe in her. And I said, I hope
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: that one day the world gets to see the destiny
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: that I met years ago. And I'm happy to say,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's happening.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Hmm. I do feel like it's happening. So congratulations.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: Thank you, Lois.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: Continue to be you. And keep your hands to yourself.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: I have been.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: I'm praying.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: I'm putting my hands together and I'm going to pray.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: Amen.
• 1:21:11
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• 1:21:16
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