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Sunday Night CrossFit Talk | Nor Cal Classic finishes up, Letters from everyone this week! · Clydesdale Media Podcast

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  what is going on everybody
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  welcome to sunday night
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  crossfit talk I got my
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  football voice going it's
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  first first week of the nfl
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  yeah the raiders oh sorry
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  When I was a kid,
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  I've said it a million times,
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  I wanted to be a sportscaster.
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  I watched NFL film stuff all the time.
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  That's the stuff I wanted to do as a kid.
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  Here I am as a podcaster in
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  my fifties making up for lost time.
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  But we're going to talk
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  about a lot of stuff tonight.
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  We are going to talk about
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  the NorCal Classic.
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  But before we do that, make sure you like,
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  cents a month.
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  uh a couple cents a day uh
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  that's what funds things we
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  do uh trips we make
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  documentaries we're
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  releasing tomorrow at nine
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  how we fund that uh and
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  it's just two ninety nine a
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  month uh is the lowest
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  level you can join with or
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  hit that notifier so you
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  know when everything's
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  gonna be released like that
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  documentary tomorrow nine
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  a.m eastern time on the
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  Clydesdale media youtube channel
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  So we're going to talk about
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  NorCal Classic.
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  And my co-host tonight is Jamie.
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  If you don't know Jamie, badass,
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  Masters athlete, fourth in the world.
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  Some would say third,
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  but fourth in the world for
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  sure in the forty to forty
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  four year old division.
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  So we're going to talk about
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  NorCal Classic.
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  However, it just finished.
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  Right.
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  Our other co-host just made
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  a slight run at the podium
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  to finish the competition.
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  And we're hoping that we get
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  a late join in from her so
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  we can hear directly from
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  Carolyn as she hit the gas
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  pedal on the last two events,
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  taking second and second to
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  jump up onto the podium to
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  finish the weekend.
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  And hopefully we'll get to
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  hear directly from her as
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  she was there and will be a
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  better account as to what
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  happened this weekend than
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  Jamie and I trying to
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  follow on Instagram and
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  recaps on YouTube.
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  So there we go.
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  with that so I'm going to
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  push that ahead and I know
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  you guys are talking about
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  excitement for the behind
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  the scenes we call it all
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  access on this channel uh
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  all access a behind the
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  scenes look at the cross
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  twenty twenty four masters
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  crossfit games I have the trailer here
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  Let's go.
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  I'm going to play it to start the show.
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  With that,
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  here is a quick trailer of
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  tomorrow's behind the scenes.
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  Episode one.
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  Episode one of eleven.
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  There's eleven episodes coming out.
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  Episode one.
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  Here it is.
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  The trailer.
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  And which one's your favorite?
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  The rope climb one's not too bad.
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  I think the rope climb will be OK.
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  Burpee one and muscle up one.
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  Guys, where you coming in from?
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  Brazil.
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  Any goals for the weekend?
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  Win.
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  Win.
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  I'm Simon Hope from Auckland
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  in New Zealand.
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  New Zealand, awesome.
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  Albert Police.
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  What division are you in?
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  Fifty-five to fifty-nine.
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  From Hawaii, the big island.
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  Nice!
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  Yeah, you guys competing this weekend?
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  Yeah.
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  What's your name and what age group?
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  My name is David Santa Cruz, Borgstrand.
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  I'm in the forty to forty-four.
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  Where'd you come in from?
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  Sweden.
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  Sweden?
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  Sweden.
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  Do you just love to compete?
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  No, I actually don't love to compete.
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  I love the process.
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  I love the training and the
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  process of it all.
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  I think there's a lot of
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  people that are not here,
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  not competing at the
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  Masters Games that thinks
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  that all the Masters Games
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  athletes are like pro athletes,
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  that this is like all we do.
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  And I think it's a misconception.
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  I think a lot of us have full-time jobs,
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  have families, have kids.
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  And I think it's something
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  that people don't realize
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  that not anybody can do this,
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  because it obviously takes
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  a lot of years of hard work and time,
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  and not everybody does have that.
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  But it's more accessible
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  than people think.
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  So that's the trailer.
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  Exciting.
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  Yeah, so excited.
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  A couple things from Lynn
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  here real quick is Lynn,
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  crank her the bike.
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  Jamie, burpee monster.
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  Jamie,
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  ninety percent clean eight times mid
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  workout.
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  Jamie.
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  Yeah, that's Jamie.
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  Those are my personas, apparently.
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  Yeah, she does all those things.
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  And leaps tall buildings in
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  a single bound.
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  And then good to see Kyle
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  Ruth from TTT talking about
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  his passion for Masters athletes.
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  You'll get a lot of TTT if
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  you don't know Ellie Hiller.
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  Shout out to Ellie Hiller
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  who helped me do the interviews.
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  She is a TTT athlete.
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  Kyle Ruth is her coach.
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  And so they have a close relationship, uh,
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  which,
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  so we actually cut that up a little bit.
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  Um,
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  that piece is a little bit longer in
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  the actual documentary, um,
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  as they have a really good relationship.
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  Um,
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  And so, yeah,
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  there's actually TTT had like
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  nineteen athletes at the
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  Masters CrossFit Games.
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  I think it was Max Elhaj was
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  there as well as Brandon
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  and Brandon and CTP CPTC.
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  I don't know the order.
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  CTP.
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  Yes.
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  CTP.
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  Chris.
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  Chris, the podcaster.
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  So CTP.
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  I got it now.
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  um and and will morad is
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  with ttt ish yeah so on the
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  last few episodes you'll
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  see will a couple times um
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  as he's finishing up the
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  weekend um I think he
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  really got no groove and as
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  he was winning he was much
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  easier much more
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  approachable at the end of the weekend
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  Not that he's ever not approachable.
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  I think he was just feeling
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  out what Masters was all
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  about at the beginning of the weekend,
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  and then he got comfortable.
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  It got a lot more easy to talk with them.
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  Did you watch the TTT Masters recap?
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  I did watch most of it.
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  I watched it as I was going
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  to bed last night and fell
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  asleep before the end
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  because I was just dog tired.
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  Aaron and I watched it.
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  Aaron was really hoping that
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  they would touch more on
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  the floor layout and just like
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  you know, like,
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  like how your opinion of the move,
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  the workout moving down the
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  floor and actually having a
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  start and a finish.
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  And I feel like you lose
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  that when you set up the floors,
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  the way they set them up to
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  meet in the middle.
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  Um,
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  you can't really go the whole floor
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  length and I wish they
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  would have touched on that a little bit.
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  Um,
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  Yeah,
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  and I think just like I'm trying to be,
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  they were very forgiving.
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  This is the first time, first attempt,
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  and they were very
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  forgiving on that podcast
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  as I'm trying to be not so
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  negative when this was
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  thrown in their lap.
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  A tragic event happened four weeks ago.
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  They still had to pull this thing off,
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  and here we are.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, I agree.
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  I just think there's...
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  constructive criticism that
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  could be given that I feel
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  like if you just say yeah
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  it went great or even if
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  you say like it went as
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  good as it could go for a
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  first year comp you're
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  almost like leaving
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  criticism on the table that
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  like could make it better
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  in the future just because
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  you're trying to give them
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  leeway um I just I don't
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  know that that floor setup
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  is the best thing for our
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  sport it doesn't really
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  hard to see who's in the lead yeah
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  One,
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  you don't have the room to tell the
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  story.
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  Two,
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  you have twenty people going at one
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  time on opposite ends of the floor.
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  They're not side by side,
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  so you can't really tell.
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  Like,
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  a great example is the one that Lynn
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  talked about where you
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  cleaned the bar eight times
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  at ninety percent of your weight.
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  The person closest to you
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  was across the floor in the far
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  Outside lane.
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  Yeah.
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  Right.
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  So,
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  and then your barbells were set up
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  differently.
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  Your rules were different
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  because of where your
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  starting points were.
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  So it was really hard to
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  tell who was in first and
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  who was in second based on
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  where you guys were on the floor.
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  Yeah.
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  I understand who is a part
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  of the board or whatever
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  they call that group.
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  Bob and Joe know there are
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  improvements and changes
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  that can be made.
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  So Andrew saying this,
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  I think the floor setup
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  helps with getting the
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  volume athletes through each heat.
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  I think it's better than
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  twenty lanes straight across.
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  I don't know that I agree.
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  And I and I also I I think
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  there is an argument to be
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  made that there shouldn't
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  be forty athletes.
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  I think that should be saved
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  for legends in December.
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  And I think you actually need to.
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  make the fields slightly smaller,
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  whether it's thirty and you
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  have lanes of fifteen.
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  I don't know,
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  but I don't think that and
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  that's why I wish more
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  people would talk about this.
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  I wish TTT would have,
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  because if that's like
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  their thought and Andrew's
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  thought and that's their thought, like,
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  well,
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  we're getting the volume of athletes
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  in and this is the way the
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  floor has got to be set up.
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  I just wish there'd be more
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  discourse over that.
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  I think the one thing that
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  has to happen is the lead
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  athletes have to be side by side.
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  Once that first receipt
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  happens and you know,
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  pretty much where people are sitting,
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  they,
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  the top ten need to be on the same side,
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  side by side where you can
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  see and you can compete.
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  Um,
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  And Andrew says here, agrees with you,
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  maybe a smaller field is
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  what is necessary.
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  But I think at the very minimum,
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  top ten need to be side by side.
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  Yeah.
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  Not across from each other.
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  Depth perception is not
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  something you want to rely
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  on when you're racing somebody.
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  You want to see side by side
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  where you sit and if you're
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  ahead or behind.
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  Yeah, I think they thought maybe...
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  occasionally you would be
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  able to watch that person
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  right across from you.
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  Like if you were in the
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  middle of the left side of
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  the floor and the person in
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  second was in the middle of
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  the other side of the floor,
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  you'd be able to see each other.
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  But like that isn't the way
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  we were set up.
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  That didn't always work.
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  Like you couldn't really
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  just watch the people
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  across from you very well.
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  Occasionally you could,
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  sometimes we were faced that way,
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  but not always.
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  Denise Moore says being in
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  second the whole week.
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  And she was in second the whole weekend.
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  Yeah.
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  She was never beside first place.
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  Right.
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  And Lana, she knows I love her.
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  Yeah.
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  And a finish line for all events.
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  Absolutely.
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  Hallelujah.
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  Preach.
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  Praise the Lord.
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  Yes.
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  Yes, please.
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  A freaking finish line.
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  Yes.
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  So I can tell when people are done.
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  Yeah.
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  Agreed.
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  Yes.
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  But we didn't mean to get into all that.
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  But, yeah, it was a good podcast.
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  And it was Kyle, Ruth, Brendan,
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  and Max Elhaj kind of
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  talking about it all.
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  And they were all there all weekend.
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  I mean,
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  talk about Max giving his time to
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  his Masters athletes.
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  He was there the whole
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  stinking weekend coaching
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  who he was there to coach.
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  Yep.
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  Kenneth, it's too late.
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  Always.
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  So there.
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  But anyway, tomorrow morning, nine a.m.
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  Eastern time,
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  the first episode will come out.
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  It is all it's all check in day.
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  Um, so it's all about checking in,
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  just getting to know the athletes.
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  The episodes after this will
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  be event specific.
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  So event or so episode two
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  will be the run deadlift or deadlift run,
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  and it will be all around
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  centered around that.
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  The episodes will be shorter
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  when they're event based
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  than this one was.
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  This one's like almost fifty
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  minutes because it's just
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  checking in with a bunch of
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  athletes and kind of seeing
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  where they came from,
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  what they're here for.
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  And I will say,
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  like looking at the video
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  we have and all the stuff we've gathered,
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  both Ellie and I get way better.
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  As the weekend goes on,
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  like these episodes will
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  get better as they go
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  because we find different
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  ways to get people to react
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  to our camera.
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  And I think they got more
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  comfortable with our camera
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  as the weekend went on.
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  So I think it's going to be,
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  I think you're going to
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  appreciate some of the
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  stuff we captured as we got
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  more comfortable with the
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  athletes and they knew we
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  were there for just a fun reason.
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  Right.
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  So, yeah, it should be really fun.
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  But, yeah,
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  and shout out to Caitlin Walters
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  and Jonathan Ortega, especially Ortega.
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  He edited all the workout stuff.
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  So the workout piece you're
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  going to see in this is
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  just a preview of the entire event.
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  And Ortega did all the editing,
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  and he and Caitlin captured
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  all the video for that.
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  So shout out to them.
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  And then Holly Dugan,
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  who was right there by my
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  side the whole weekend.
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  And she's going to do all
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  the graphics for this moving forward.
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  So super excited about that.
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  Now we got to get into the serious stuff.
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  So this weekend we had tons
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  of correspondence that was issued,
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  sent out, whatever that was.
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  And the first one being Luca sending,
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  making a post on Instagram
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  in a letter format of kind
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  of what happened in his
• 16:42
  mind through the initial part of
• 16:47
  the tragedy of Lazar's death.
• 16:51
  And so I have that.
• 16:52
  I'll pull it up.
• 16:53
  I don't want to,
• 16:54
  it's like nine slides or something.
• 16:56
  It's a lot.
• 16:57
  I don't want to read the
• 16:58
  whole thing to you,
• 17:00
  but I've talked about it
• 17:01
  myself yesterday on a show.
• 17:04
  And I wanted to give you guys,
• 17:07
  you and Carolyn, if Carolyn was here,
• 17:09
  but you, if you had any reaction to this,
• 17:13
  Um, I mean, it's good to hear from him.
• 17:17
  I think everyone needs to
• 17:18
  take it with a bit,
• 17:22
  like you need to realize he
• 17:25
  didn't have a camera or
• 17:27
  recorder with him.
• 17:27
  So,
• 17:28
  and I can't imagine he was in the
• 17:31
  perfect state of mind to remember
• 17:33
  word for word,
• 17:34
  exactly what was said to him.
• 17:36
  And also how his emotions
• 17:38
  may have played into his
• 17:40
  reaction of what he heard.
• 17:42
  So, I mean,
• 17:46
  it's great to get people's perspectives,
• 17:48
  but that's what it is,
• 17:49
  someone's perspective.
• 17:53
  And Dave's is going to be his perspective.
• 17:55
  And there's going to be
• 17:56
  something in the middle
• 17:57
  that is likely more of the truth.
• 18:01
  So one,
• 18:02
  this is an uncomfortable situation
• 18:04
  for everybody involved.
• 18:05
  Yes.
• 18:07
  The perspective of Luca is
• 18:09
  he just lost his brother
• 18:11
  and he is pissed and he has
• 18:13
  a right to be pissed.
• 18:14
  Right.
• 18:15
  No,
• 18:16
  nothing that anybody does from this
• 18:18
  point forward brings Lazar back.
• 18:20
  Right.
• 18:21
  Right.
• 18:22
  And that's going to be his perspective.
• 18:25
  What I find interesting is in his writing,
• 18:29
  and I pointed this out,
• 18:30
  just I did a stream of
• 18:31
  consciousness episode yesterday,
• 18:33
  which is bizarre and we can
• 18:34
  talk about later.
• 18:35
  But he points out in this
• 18:38
  that he didn't want to
• 18:40
  point fingers at this time, right?
• 18:43
  But the minute this came out,
• 18:45
  the internet pointed fingers.
• 18:47
  Yes.
• 18:48
  The minute this came out.
• 18:50
  Everybody jumped on their Instagram,
• 18:53
  made a post,
• 18:54
  and pointed fingers where
• 18:56
  they wanted them pointed.
• 18:57
  And I think they felt like
• 18:59
  this gave them permission to do that.
• 19:05
  Yes.
• 19:09
  Even though Luca in this says,
• 19:12
  I don't want to point
• 19:12
  fingers at this time.
• 19:15
  right he's just giving his
• 19:17
  perception of what
• 19:18
  everything that happened
• 19:20
  and everybody took that as
• 19:21
  boom yeah they all in rare
• 19:26
  and demanded a response
• 19:27
  from dave right yeah so I
• 19:33
  found that I found that to be ironic um
• 19:40
  And I have not said my place
• 19:42
  on who I support, who I don't support,
• 19:47
  or anything like that.
• 19:48
  Because I don't know.
• 19:50
  There are still facts I want
• 19:52
  to know about before I make
• 19:54
  any definitive statement
• 19:57
  about what I think should happen.
• 20:00
  But the other thing that I know,
• 20:01
  and it's something that...
• 20:04
  I'm going to take a break
• 20:05
  from this because Carolyn is in the chat.
• 20:09
  Yes.
• 20:09
  She's about to jump on the
• 20:10
  podium so she can't hop on,
• 20:12
  which congratulations to Carolyn.
• 20:14
  You kick ass.
• 20:15
  You rock.
• 20:16
  Been watching the leaderboard all day.
• 20:18
  Saw your two second places
• 20:19
  to finish to make it to the podium.
• 20:22
  And we could not be happier for you.
• 20:24
  So proud of you.
• 20:26
  so stoked and uh and so
• 20:30
  happy that you're up on the
• 20:31
  podium so go get your medal
• 20:33
  go get your prize money and
• 20:35
  enjoy every bit of tonight
• 20:36
  and don't worry about being
• 20:37
  on the show yeah we love
• 20:38
  you you're the best so
• 20:41
  happy that that you did
• 20:42
  what you did especially
• 20:44
  next comment came back well we both are
• 20:48
  came back from the dead after day one.
• 20:51
  Yeah.
• 20:52
  You had messaged me this,
• 20:53
  that she was in the medical
• 20:55
  tent getting IVs from like
• 20:57
  severe dehydration from the trail run.
• 20:59
  Yep.
• 21:00
  And we'll talk,
• 21:01
  we'll talk about that when we get to the,
• 21:03
  that we'll talk about the event.
• 21:07
  So super stoked about that.
• 21:10
  But yeah, she was in,
• 21:11
  she got at least two IVs in
• 21:13
  the medical tent on the first day.
• 21:15
  I think that was Friday.
• 21:17
  Um,
• 21:17
  and then she says she still can't swim.
• 21:19
  It's all right.
• 21:20
  Um, thank you guys.
• 21:27
  Jeffrey.
• 21:28
  She was the third place.
• 21:31
  Yeah.
• 21:32
  Came back in the last two
• 21:33
  events to podium.
• 21:35
  Came back from the medical
• 21:36
  tent and a swim event to podium,
• 21:39
  which is freaking awesome for her.
• 21:41
  Uh, and we could not be happier.
• 21:46
  Um, so back to this, um,
• 21:48
  and I don't even know where I was.
• 21:51
  The one thing that like, I don't,
• 21:53
  it's not popular to say,
• 21:55
  but I've talked to a lot of
• 21:56
  athletes and they tell me
• 21:58
  that the CrossFit games is
• 21:59
  where they have felt the
• 22:00
  safest in their CrossFit career.
• 22:02
  Yeah.
• 22:03
  Right.
• 22:03
  That when CrossFit puts on an event,
• 22:06
  it is done so well.
• 22:08
  Did they mess up this year?
• 22:10
  Yes.
• 22:11
  Did something go wrong?
• 22:13
  Yes.
• 22:13
  Does it need corrected?
• 22:15
  No.
• 22:15
  But you look around at other
• 22:17
  events around the world,
• 22:18
  and it is crazy what
• 22:21
  they're having athletes do
• 22:22
  and don't have any kind of
• 22:27
  safety protocols in place.
• 22:30
  Right.
• 22:30
  So I don't want to burn down the building.
• 22:36
  Because a mistake was made.
• 22:38
  But things need to change
• 22:39
  because someone did die.
• 22:41
  And we do need to make change.
• 22:43
  I just don't know.
• 22:45
  I need to see every fact before.
• 22:47
  Not every fact.
• 22:48
  I need to see facts before I
• 22:50
  can make a judgment as to
• 22:51
  where I think that should go.
• 22:57
  So then after this,
• 22:59
  it is followed up with a
• 23:02
  letter from Dave Castro.
• 23:06
  A very short one.
• 23:07
  This one will be easy to pull up.
• 23:11
  And it is here that he read
• 23:13
  Luca's post and that he
• 23:16
  says that he should have
• 23:17
  never used the word blessed.
• 23:20
  And he apologizes to the
• 23:21
  family and to the athletes.
• 23:24
  I'm going to read this verbatim.
• 23:28
  Uh...
• 23:31
  At the time,
• 23:33
  the decision was made to
• 23:34
  continue the games and
• 23:36
  allow our athletes to compete,
• 23:37
  and we respected those
• 23:38
  athletes who decided to withdraw.
• 23:40
  This decision was made by CrossFit,
• 23:42
  and I never intended to put
• 23:43
  the weight of this decision on Luca,
• 23:46
  the Jukic family,
• 23:48
  or our CrossFit athletes.
• 23:51
  And then he goes on to say,
• 23:53
  I'm sorry for the pain I've caused.
• 23:59
  I think this is a great step.
• 24:01
  He is admitting where he may
• 24:02
  have used the wrong word.
• 24:05
  He is saying he's sorry for it.
• 24:07
  But again,
• 24:07
  I want to see more facts to know
• 24:10
  what all this means in the big picture.
• 24:13
  Your thoughts?
• 24:14
  Yeah, I mean, I just...
• 24:19
  I feel like people were
• 24:20
  searching for... I feel
• 24:22
  like some athletes called
• 24:23
  out other athletes for
• 24:24
  continuing on and just so
• 24:26
  much judgment was happening
• 24:27
  that people are so hung up
• 24:29
  on the verbiage used that... I mean,
• 24:34
  if that's the only thing
• 24:35
  you care about is that Dave
• 24:37
  said blessed and that's
• 24:41
  what made you continue on
• 24:43
  and now you just feel like...
• 24:46
  cheated I don't even know
• 24:47
  like you just feel like
• 24:48
  wronged I don't it's not
• 24:50
  about you for one I I just
• 24:53
  wish people would just like
• 24:56
  you like for one just back
• 24:58
  off um I mean I wasn't
• 25:00
  there I didn't experience
• 25:02
  it I like I can't really
• 25:03
  imagine but there's just so
• 25:07
  much calling for dave's
• 25:08
  head without concrete
• 25:11
  evidence, facts, anything.
• 25:14
  And I just think you needed to be like,
• 25:16
  just own your decision.
• 25:19
  And I guess you can say, man,
• 25:21
  I wish it would have gone differently.
• 25:25
  I don't know.
• 25:30
  To hang, hang up over a word when
• 25:33
  unless you were there and
• 25:34
  heard it like it is it is
• 25:36
  all a perspective thing and
• 25:38
  like you need to you need
• 25:39
  to take that into like your
• 25:41
  own digest that your own
• 25:45
  way um I don't I don't know
• 25:51
  again it's so hard to make
• 25:54
  a judgment call because you
• 25:55
  don't have the context text
• 25:57
  of how it was said right
• 25:58
  right like none of us have
• 26:00
  that context unless you were there
• 26:02
  Well, you still, I mean,
• 26:03
  you still don't like, I, I,
• 26:09
  I don't even know that his, I mean,
• 26:15
  blessing is a form of approval.
• 26:18
  And I think everyone may
• 26:20
  interpret that slightly different,
• 26:23
  whether it was like a
• 26:24
  enthusiastic approval or
• 26:27
  just a go for it.
• 26:30
  Go ahead if you want.
• 26:31
  Right.
• 26:33
  I wouldn't call that a blessing personally,
• 26:36
  but I do.
• 26:37
  And Dave admits he shouldn't
• 26:38
  have used the word blessing.
• 26:39
  He shouldn't have used the word blessing.
• 26:42
  Right.
• 26:43
  I am on the camp, though, that as a sport,
• 26:50
  you have to find a way to move on.
• 26:52
  And to me,
• 26:54
  that meant we needed to finish the games.
• 26:56
  Yes.
• 26:59
  I don't know that we should
• 27:00
  have come back the next
• 27:01
  morning and started all up again,
• 27:03
  maybe one day off and
• 27:05
  something different.
• 27:07
  There are many different
• 27:08
  interpretations of that.
• 27:10
  But as I've experienced death in sports,
• 27:14
  the sport goes on.
• 27:18
  Right.
• 27:18
  And that's what I was raised with.
• 27:20
  When Dale Earnhardt died,
• 27:22
  they raced the next weekend.
• 27:25
  Right.
• 27:26
  And all the qualification
• 27:27
  stuff and all the stuff going up to that,
• 27:30
  that next weekend happened.
• 27:33
  And then there was,
• 27:33
  there were still remembrance for Dale.
• 27:35
  There was stuff that had, they, you know,
• 27:38
  flew black flags.
• 27:39
  They did what they needed to do,
• 27:42
  but it moves on.
• 27:45
  The minute you cancel something,
• 27:49
  it just makes it a, it makes it bigger.
• 27:54
  Not that a death should not be big.
• 27:57
  It should be big.
• 27:58
  But you also have to move on.
• 28:02
  I don't know.
• 28:03
  And there's still so many
• 28:05
  facts to iron out here.
• 28:08
  Yeah.
• 28:09
  I mean, I think for the community...
• 28:13
  whether it needed to look
• 28:14
  like a typical CrossFit
• 28:15
  Games or more like the
• 28:16
  exhibition that some people called for,
• 28:18
  I don't know.
• 28:19
  But I know there's a lot of
• 28:20
  people who think it should
• 28:21
  have been canceled altogether.
• 28:22
  I think that would have been
• 28:23
  really hard on the community.
• 28:27
  People did want a place to tune in.
• 28:29
  People did want to continue
• 28:31
  to like watch this and
• 28:34
  grieve together or whatever it may be.
• 28:38
  So I don't know that
• 28:39
  canceling would have been
• 28:40
  the greatest decision.
• 28:46
  So I think Lynn,
• 28:47
  you and I are probably not
• 28:48
  going to agree on this.
• 28:50
  I respect your opinion.
• 28:51
  I respect that you,
• 28:53
  you feel that way based on what you know,
• 28:57
  but I feel like the family
• 29:00
  was okay with it going on
• 29:03
  because they didn't care.
• 29:05
  Yeah.
• 29:06
  That's what, I mean, that would be my,
• 29:08
  I wouldn't, like I said,
• 29:10
  I would not have used the word blessing.
• 29:11
  They gave their blessing.
• 29:14
  I would have said it very differently.
• 29:18
  And Dave has apologized for
• 29:19
  using the word blessing.
• 29:22
  So that's,
• 29:24
  that's where I'm not as hung up as you.
• 29:32
  I, I mean, I think, I think.
• 29:36
  Eighty percent of the
• 29:37
  athletes that continued on,
• 29:40
  we're going to continue on
• 29:41
  no matter how it was worded.
• 29:42
  Like they clearly wanted to compete.
• 29:45
  There may have been a few
• 29:46
  extra handful that really were thinking,
• 29:50
  okay, they want this to go on.
• 29:53
  I'm going to do this for
• 29:54
  them in their honor.
• 29:55
  And maybe a different
• 29:56
  wording would have been like,
• 30:01
  this doesn't feel right and
• 30:02
  I'm not going to do it.
• 30:03
  But I feel like a lot of the
• 30:04
  ones who felt like it
• 30:04
  wasn't right didn't do it.
• 30:09
  I truly feel that
• 30:14
  What should have happened is
• 30:15
  CrossFit should have said, hey,
• 30:18
  we're starting an investigation,
• 30:19
  but we need to finish the games,
• 30:21
  and we're moving forward.
• 30:23
  We met with Lazar's family.
• 30:25
  We met with Luca.
• 30:27
  We talked to them,
• 30:29
  and they know our plans to move forward.
• 30:32
  It shouldn't have been about
• 30:33
  their decision.
• 30:34
  It should have been, hey, we, CrossFit,
• 30:36
  are moving forward,
• 30:37
  and this is what we're doing.
• 30:42
  And they could have let us
• 30:43
  know they had a conversation,
• 30:44
  but they didn't need to say what,
• 30:46
  that if there was blessing
• 30:47
  or they even put the weight
• 30:48
  of that decision on a
• 30:50
  family that just lost a loved one.
• 30:58
  But I do believe they should
• 30:59
  have given more time to grieve.
• 31:02
  They should have given at
• 31:03
  least Friday as either...
• 31:07
  move Chad to Friday and let
• 31:09
  the community do it
• 31:11
  immediately after or
• 31:14
  something like more community focused.
• 31:17
  Um, so I don't know.
• 31:26
  Uh, Judy Reed says, I like Facundo's idea.
• 31:28
  Anyone who chose not to compete,
• 31:29
  got an automatic buy in the
• 31:31
  twenty twenty five.
• 31:34
  Not sure I agree with that
• 31:36
  because then you're just
• 31:37
  messing up future stuff.
• 31:44
  I don't think there was an outright lie,
• 31:47
  and this is from Lee Frazier.
• 31:50
  I don't think there was an
• 31:50
  outright lie but a misunderstanding.
• 31:52
  A grieving brother and a
• 31:54
  grieving director trying to
• 31:55
  make a plan for an impossible situation.
• 31:57
  Mm-hmm.
• 32:00
  I don't think the decision
• 32:01
  to move forward with the
• 32:02
  CrossFit Games should have
• 32:03
  been Dave Castro's.
• 32:04
  I agree with that.
• 32:06
  I think it should have been
• 32:06
  the CEO stepping in to say,
• 32:08
  this is what we're doing.
• 32:10
  It should have been a dawn-fall decision.
• 32:16
  Right.
• 32:18
  Yeah,
• 32:18
  he got hung out on the chopping block
• 32:19
  there.
• 32:22
  Yeah, I think Dave is the public face,
• 32:24
  and he's the one being hung
• 32:25
  out to spin in the wind a
• 32:28
  little bit on this one.
• 32:31
  Because we haven't heard
• 32:31
  anything publicly from Dawn
• 32:33
  Fall except for an email,
• 32:35
  but no public facing other
• 32:38
  than the press conference
• 32:39
  immediately after.
• 32:42
  Denise Moore says,
• 32:43
  I think they should have
• 32:43
  had a better tribute.
• 32:44
  I don't disagree with this.
• 32:48
  That is a valid point.
• 32:49
  Fluffy Fit,
• 32:50
  you took the words right out of my mouth.
• 32:52
  This shouldn't have gone through Dave,
• 32:54
  though.
• 32:54
  Dawn is the CEO,
• 32:55
  and he should have been the
• 32:56
  one to take command.
• 32:57
  Agree, agree, agree.
• 33:03
  Larry Young, no matter what was said,
• 33:05
  the people using this just
• 33:07
  don't feel Dave is what's
• 33:08
  best for the sport.
• 33:10
  It's not what words were said.
• 33:11
  It's clear when you single
• 33:12
  out a person when very little is clear.
• 33:15
  Yes.
• 33:18
  Jay Birch, Scapegoat Dave, part two.
• 33:22
  Peter Otero,
• 33:23
  it bothers me that so many
• 33:25
  people use this as a reason
• 33:26
  to attack again.
• 33:28
  Sleepless...
• 33:31
  mind speak I think I think
• 33:32
  he means sleep like
• 33:34
  sleepless people misspeak
• 33:35
  all the time when in trust
• 33:37
  people misspeak all the
• 33:38
  time when in stressful
• 33:40
  situations yeah absolutely
• 33:46
  and uh d reed says pat and
• 33:49
  brent like dawn so he's
• 33:50
  apparently safe from their
• 33:51
  venom what I really hate
• 33:54
  the most is that people are
• 33:55
  using the death of a very
• 33:57
  good man for their own agenda right
• 34:00
  And for past discretions.
• 34:02
  Right.
• 34:03
  Not for what happened this
• 34:05
  year at this time.
• 34:07
  Yep.
• 34:08
  And then what that's doing
• 34:09
  is it's conflating the issue.
• 34:11
  So people are confused or
• 34:14
  don't understand what's happening.
• 34:16
  So that's my opinion.
• 34:21
  Yeah, I agree.
• 34:38
  mike alpin says don spoke
• 34:39
  with affiliate owners on
• 34:40
  thursday his message was
• 34:41
  the same as the email
• 34:43
  nicole was slated to be
• 34:44
  there and was not there
• 34:46
  interesting yeah so that
• 34:54
  happened and then we
• 34:55
  finished up with what mike
• 34:56
  alpin just referenced and
• 34:58
  that is that uh don false
• 35:00
  sent an email um to the whoops
• 35:07
  we go send an email to
• 35:08
  affiliate owners basically
• 35:10
  telling them that the third
• 35:11
  party investigation is
• 35:12
  ongoing you can read it all
• 35:14
  in the barbell spin they
• 35:16
  have a full uh listing of
• 35:18
  that email you can read it
• 35:19
  in its entirety uh so don't
• 35:22
  make sure to go there if
• 35:23
  you want to do that I think
• 35:25
  morning chalk up has it as
• 35:26
  well you can check out there um
• 35:29
  But anyway,
• 35:29
  it says third-party
• 35:30
  investigation is ongoing,
• 35:32
  and if anybody feels they
• 35:33
  need to talk to the investigator,
• 35:36
  there will be more
• 35:37
  information coming as to
• 35:39
  how to get in contact with
• 35:40
  that investigator.
• 35:43
  So not only an update of the investigation,
• 35:45
  but hey,
• 35:46
  if you feel the need that you saw
• 35:48
  something or need to say
• 35:50
  something to the investigator,
• 35:52
  we'll make it clear on how
• 35:54
  you can speak with them as well.
• 35:59
  And then they talked about
• 36:00
  how if you were present at the event,
• 36:03
  CrossFit is paying for, I believe,
• 36:06
  eight sessions,
• 36:11
  either coaching or therapy
• 36:14
  sessions with a third-party
• 36:18
  mental health expert.
• 36:19
  That's good.
• 36:25
  So there it is.
• 36:27
  There's that.
• 36:30
  Any final thoughts on that?
• 36:31
  No.
• 36:38
  Okay.
• 36:38
  Yeah, we got a lot on that.
• 36:39
  So... So the Rogue Q...
• 36:47
  Let's finish up the Carolyn
• 36:48
  thing and Norikow since we
• 36:50
  know she's not jumping on now.
• 36:55
  She also talked about her...
• 36:57
  having heat exhaustion,
• 36:59
  so I wanted to put that up there.
• 37:01
  Carolyn said, I got heat exhaustion,
• 37:03
  had to go to the hospital
• 37:04
  after nothing was staying
• 37:05
  down in my system, was going to withdraw,
• 37:08
  but thankfully events were
• 37:09
  later that night,
• 37:11
  got discharged an hour and a half before,
• 37:15
  I have to figure out why
• 37:16
  this keeps happening to me
• 37:18
  with the heat and running.
• 37:19
  This wasn't the first time,
• 37:21
  but it was the worst it's ever been.
• 37:24
  And if you don't remember,
• 37:25
  it actually happened to her
• 37:26
  at semifinals.
• 37:27
  It's right around cramped up as well.
• 37:30
  Yeah.
• 37:30
  Yeah.
• 37:38
  So she went from getting two
• 37:41
  bags of IV going to the hospital to
• 37:44
  getting discharged to ending
• 37:47
  up third place overall on
• 37:49
  the podium crazy we let's
• 37:52
  look at the leaderboard
• 37:53
  really quick on that.
• 37:59
  So.
• 38:01
  On the elite women's side,
• 38:02
  Elizabeth Wishart took first.
• 38:07
  Trista Smith took second,
• 38:08
  which actually was reversed
• 38:10
  going into the last event.
• 38:12
  Trista was in the lead.
• 38:13
  Elizabeth was in second.
• 38:15
  Carolyn took third.
• 38:17
  Emily Rethwell fourth.
• 38:18
  Those were flipped going
• 38:20
  into the last event.
• 38:21
  So on the last event, which was NorCal.
• 38:27
  NorCal Sue.
• 38:28
  Cal Sue.
• 38:28
  Mm-hmm.
• 38:30
  Uh,
• 38:31
  Carolyn jumped from fourth to third and
• 38:34
  Elizabeth jumped from second to first,
• 38:39
  which was a crazy workout,
• 38:42
  which was actually curious
• 38:49
  to hear from Carolyn on this event.
• 38:51
  Minutes one through three, three,
• 38:53
  three ring muscle ups at
• 38:54
  the top of the minute.
• 38:57
  Minutes four through six,
• 38:58
  two ring muscle ups at the
• 38:59
  top of the minute.
• 39:00
  Minutes seven through ten,
• 39:02
  one ring muscle up at the
• 39:03
  top of the minute.
• 39:05
  None of the females finished.
• 39:07
  None.
• 39:07
  Just so you know.
• 39:08
  Yeah.
• 39:10
  I find it funny that I had done this two,
• 39:13
  three weeks ago and then I
• 39:14
  see this event pop up and I'm like,
• 39:16
  oh my God, that's hilarious.
• 39:20
  So yeah, the
• 39:27
  the event started with the run.
• 39:28
  I do know I did hear there was no water,
• 39:33
  no water station on the ten
• 39:35
  K and that there were a
• 39:41
  handful of athletes that
• 39:42
  ended up in the hospital.
• 39:44
  Were they allowed to take
• 39:48
  like a camelback water bottles with them?
• 39:55
  I don't know.
• 39:56
  Cause I wasn't there.
• 39:57
  Those are questions I wanted to ask.
• 39:59
  Yeah.
• 39:59
  Uh, Carolyn,
• 40:00
  when she was on and we'll get
• 40:02
  that from her, uh, next week for sure.
• 40:07
  Uh, that workout looked nasty, but fun.
• 40:09
  Look,
• 40:09
  little Hattie can you action in the chat?
• 40:13
  Always good to see her.
• 40:13
  Good luck in the queue.
• 40:17
  Um, so there's that.
• 40:19
  Is there any other workout
• 40:21
  that you wanted to talk about?
• 40:22
  Uh,
• 40:25
  No, I didn't really,
• 40:26
  other than the trail run
• 40:27
  and I saw like an Instagram
• 40:29
  post of the swim and then NorCal Sioux,
• 40:31
  I didn't really even know
• 40:32
  any of the other event events.
• 40:34
  I don't,
• 40:34
  I heard about the pale hold on
• 40:37
  spawn pad cast, but that's about it.
• 40:39
  Yeah.
• 40:42
  Yeah.
• 40:43
  Interesting events.
• 40:44
  And NorCal classic is known
• 40:46
  for having weird, wacky, wild events.
• 40:53
  Yeah.
• 40:55
  Hattie says, thanks.
• 40:57
  The Q be crazy.
• 40:58
  We're going to talk about
• 40:59
  the Q in a second.
• 41:00
  Yes.
• 41:03
  So then on the elite male side.
• 41:07
  Colton Mertens with the win.
• 41:09
  Taylor Self second.
• 41:11
  Tudor Magda third.
• 41:13
  CJ Gerald fourth.
• 41:16
  And Sean Sweeney sixth.
• 41:17
  Stuart Jones in fifth as well.
• 41:22
  I see EZ was there.
• 41:24
  I thought I saw one other
• 41:26
  Masters athlete who was at
• 41:29
  the Masters games here as well.
• 41:36
  But yeah.
• 41:38
  good to see tutor competing
• 41:40
  yeah um and it is he
• 41:42
  joining is he going back to
• 41:44
  brute or is he going to
• 41:45
  mayhem I don't know were
• 41:49
  they talking about his
• 41:50
  coach on this podcast I
• 41:52
  don't know I've only been
• 41:54
  catching little bits here
• 41:55
  and there um but on kill
• 41:59
  taylor he was with coach dom um
• 42:02
  okay so then he'd be going
• 42:06
  to mayhem and he was with
• 42:07
  dallin and james sprague
• 42:10
  they were pumping him up to
• 42:11
  kill taylor and he did he
• 42:13
  won he won fifteen hundred
• 42:15
  bucks so I don't know just
• 42:22
  this is where I speculate
• 42:23
  yeah like tudor's hanging
• 42:26
  out with his boys again if
• 42:27
  nobody remembers they were
• 42:29
  all brood athletes under matt um
• 42:32
  under that way back in the day.
• 42:34
  Right.
• 42:35
  Um,
• 42:36
  they all kind of split it off a little
• 42:37
  bit.
• 42:38
  Um,
• 42:38
  but I don't know why coach Dom would be
• 42:41
  around the other two.
• 42:42
  They would,
• 42:43
  he coached on would have been
• 42:44
  with Matt Torres back then,
• 42:47
  probably helping him out.
• 42:49
  But, uh,
• 42:52
  they were all people at James wedding.
• 42:53
  Yes, that's true.
• 42:57
  Helping stop bringing reason
• 42:58
  to my speculation.
• 42:59
  Yeah.
• 43:08
  They were all together for that, yes.
• 43:12
  I love Tudor Magda.
• 43:13
  I am a huge fan of his and I
• 43:16
  want him to succeed.
• 43:21
  However he needs to do that.
• 43:25
  So it sounds like overall a
• 43:27
  pretty good time in NorCal
• 43:31
  other than the hospital visit.
• 43:33
  But the recovery was fast.
• 43:35
  And end of the day,
• 43:37
  our co-host podium winner.
• 43:40
  Third place finish.
• 43:43
  So let's talk about the cue.
• 43:45
  All right.
• 43:47
  We'll go through the workouts.
• 43:48
  I want your impression.
• 43:49
  So workout one.
• 43:51
  is for time and I guess I
• 43:54
  can share my notes for this
• 43:55
  because I have it copied
• 43:56
  over just so people can see
• 43:59
  it so workout one for time
• 44:04
  it's fifty forty thirty
• 44:05
  twenty ten on the echo bike
• 44:07
  ten twenty thirty forty
• 44:09
  fifty alternating dumbbell
• 44:10
  snatch time cap twenty
• 44:13
  minutes dumbbell weight
• 44:15
  seventy and fifty gross
• 44:20
  And Jamie says gross.
• 44:23
  I'm just scarred from the
• 44:24
  echo bike for a minute.
• 44:26
  I want to do these workouts.
• 44:27
  I just, ugh.
• 44:29
  They came out and I was like, ugh.
• 44:31
  Some of these are gross.
• 44:34
  See Hattie's crying face.
• 44:36
  That's a lot of echo kales.
• 44:39
  Lynn wants to know if
• 44:40
  anybody else has done it yet.
• 44:43
  I have not done it.
• 44:47
  Uh,
• 44:49
  Denise says the echo bike is the devil.
• 44:54
  Uh, I agree.
• 44:55
  I mean, I don't know.
• 44:57
  The assault bike might be worse.
• 45:02
  Oh, Katty thinks it's a lot of,
• 45:05
  Katty thinks it's a lot of snatch.
• 45:07
  Uh, it is.
• 45:08
  I mean, it is.
• 45:09
  Yeah.
• 45:10
  Those fifty at the end with
• 45:12
  fifty pounds is going to be nasty.
• 45:16
  We talked about how the
• 45:17
  master's programming had a
• 45:19
  lot of ascending reps as
• 45:21
  opposed to descending.
• 45:22
  And this is an ascending rep
• 45:25
  scheme of dumbbell snatches,
• 45:29
  which could be tough.
• 45:30
  Yes.
• 45:33
  Workout two is four time,
• 45:36
  thirty bar muscle ups,
• 45:39
  thirty overhead squats,
• 45:42
  thirty burpee over bar,
• 45:44
  time cap fifteen minutes.
• 45:47
  Over at squats, one fifty-five,
• 45:49
  one fifteen.
• 45:50
  Yeah.
• 45:50
  I mean, it's, it's kind of heavy for me,
• 45:52
  but there will be athletes
• 45:55
  that crush this and cycle,
• 45:57
  like cycle through that.
• 45:58
  Um, I like it a lot.
• 46:00
  I,
• 46:01
  you're gonna be a little bit fatigued in
• 46:03
  that lockout position after
• 46:05
  all those bar muscle ups
• 46:08
  and then doing those burpees.
• 46:09
  Good luck pressing yourself up.
• 46:12
  Does an athlete like you
• 46:13
  love when it finishes on a
• 46:15
  burpee over a bar?
• 46:17
  Yes.
• 46:18
  Cause you can just, yeah.
• 46:20
  I mean, you're not feeling a burpee.
• 46:25
  Yeah.
• 46:26
  I like burpees to finish a
• 46:27
  workout for sure.
• 46:31
  D Reed says echo bike is awesome.
• 46:32
  You can't hide from it.
• 46:36
  And Frazier says Colton said
• 46:38
  he's doing them all tomorrow.
• 46:39
  I saw that.
• 46:41
  Oh, I mean, it's,
• 46:45
  If anyone can do it, it's Colton,
• 46:46
  but there's definitely
• 46:47
  going to be some drop off.
• 46:51
  I don't think he'll qualify then.
• 46:53
  Sadly, it's a lot.
• 46:54
  It is a lot.
• 46:56
  I mean, I wouldn't put it past him.
• 47:00
  Done in the right order.
• 47:03
  I think he still has a shot.
• 47:08
  Uh, Chris is asking you a question.
• 47:11
  I'm anxious to know if you know the answer,
• 47:13
  uh, this is off topic,
• 47:14
  but what is the difference
• 47:15
  between a C two erg system
• 47:17
  and rogues ecosystem with
• 47:19
  their new rower?
• 47:23
  I don't know.
• 47:26
  I mean,
• 47:27
  other than it sounds like they've
• 47:29
  made a integrative system
• 47:30
  that will link up.
• 47:33
  I mean, the C two is already linked up.
• 47:35
  Like we saw that at the
• 47:36
  games when they did the marathon row,
• 47:38
  there is a way to link
• 47:39
  those and see that.
• 47:41
  Um,
• 47:42
  but it sounds like a more interactive
• 47:46
  system, um,
• 47:48
  which I think could be great for cops.
• 47:50
  Um,
• 47:54
  I would think it's going to feel, I mean,
• 47:57
  if you've ever rode on like
• 47:58
  the Assault air rower,
• 48:00
  it feels different than the C-II rower.
• 48:03
  And so I feel like it's
• 48:04
  going to be something like that.
• 48:10
  I think like what's weird is
• 48:13
  we don't have a similar
• 48:15
  object to the C-II bike.
• 48:19
  None of the other bikes are
• 48:20
  like the C-II bike.
• 48:21
  Right, right.
• 48:23
  Right.
• 48:23
  So,
• 48:24
  and I've been on an assault rower and an,
• 48:26
  and a C two rower and they
• 48:28
  are nothing alike.
• 48:29
  Right.
• 48:29
  The way they pull is
• 48:30
  completely different and
• 48:32
  I've never been on the new rogue one.
• 48:33
  So I have not,
• 48:34
  no clue what the difference would be.
• 48:37
  I am guessing the echo rower
• 48:39
  belt will be belt driven.
• 48:40
  Not the, not the chain.
• 48:44
  Okay.
• 48:47
  I don't know for, for a fact.
• 48:49
  Yeah.
• 48:49
  I don't know.
• 48:50
  Is the queue deadline tomorrow?
• 48:52
  Yes.
• 48:53
  I thought so.
• 48:54
  Tomorrow night?
• 48:56
  Yes.
• 49:04
  Oh, Sprague.
• 49:05
  Sprague, Yella, BKG, Yonikoski,
• 49:11
  Nick Matthews have been
• 49:11
  grinding them out for a five spot.
• 49:13
  Mertens has a chance, but all on Monday.
• 49:15
  How is Sprague not going to
• 49:16
  get an automatic win after
• 49:17
  winning the games?
• 49:18
  I think Sprague and Yella
• 49:20
  both will probably get one.
• 49:22
  PKG will probably get one.
• 49:25
  Maybe.
• 49:26
  Yeah.
• 49:29
  What was he?
• 49:29
  I mean, he was like low teens.
• 49:35
  Yeah, it's possible.
• 49:36
  What'd they go to?
• 49:38
  Fifteenth, but then back, like,
• 49:39
  kind of pulled up all the
• 49:40
  way up to twentieth last year.
• 49:41
  His last two years of
• 49:42
  performance at major
• 49:43
  competitions have probably
• 49:45
  enough to get him there.
• 49:46
  Yeah.
• 49:49
  Yeah.
• 49:50
  Yeah.
• 49:52
  And they're guaranteeing
• 49:52
  five spots out of the queue, right?
• 49:57
  Based on their system,
• 49:58
  Sprague is outside the line.
• 49:59
  Oh.
• 50:00
  But they also said they
• 50:01
  reserve the right to invite
• 50:03
  anybody they wish.
• 50:04
  Right.
• 50:04
  Because it is an invitational.
• 50:07
  He won the games.
• 50:08
  Right.
• 50:08
  I can't imagine you not inviting him.
• 50:11
  And he's probably one of the
• 50:13
  most popular athletes in
• 50:14
  the sport right now.
• 50:16
  Because he just is who he is.
• 50:19
  And he's super cool.
• 50:20
  Mm-hmm.
• 50:24
  All right, workout three is four-time,
• 50:27
  twenty-one deadlifts, fifteen clean,
• 50:31
  nine squat snatch,
• 50:32
  fifty or forty calorie row,
• 50:35
  time cap ten minutes.
• 50:37
  It is a three-fifteen,
• 50:38
  two-forty-five deadlift, two-twenty-five,
• 50:40
  one-seventy-five clean,
• 50:43
  and a one-thirty-five, one-oh-five snatch,
• 50:46
  squat snatch.
• 50:49
  This one's gnarly.
• 50:51
  It's heavy for me.
• 50:52
  I, again,
• 50:53
  there's going to be people that
• 50:54
  crush this,
• 50:55
  but I know when I did the crash qualifier,
• 51:00
  um, deadlift into the wall ball.
• 51:06
  And that was like two twenty five.
• 51:09
  I was wrecked.
• 51:11
  There's a few more reps,
• 51:12
  but still like I this
• 51:13
  twenty one deadlifts would
• 51:14
  take me forever.
• 51:16
  I don't I mean.
• 51:18
  This is gross.
• 51:19
  There's no way I would finish.
• 51:21
  I'm curious to see some times on this.
• 51:25
  You'll see who's good with a barbell.
• 51:27
  Who's good at barbell cycling.
• 51:30
  And then we finish up with
• 51:32
  an AMRAP of fifteen minutes
• 51:34
  of forty five double unders,
• 51:36
  nine strict wall facing
• 51:37
  handstand push ups,
• 51:39
  twelve block step overs with the dumbbell,
• 51:42
  fifteen chest to bar pull ups.
• 51:44
  Dumbo weights one hundred and seventy.
• 51:49
  We would have no men in our
• 51:50
  gym who could even do this
• 51:51
  because I don't own a
• 51:52
  hundred pound dumbbell.
• 51:56
  Not that I don't know that
• 51:57
  any men could do it in our gym anyway.
• 52:01
  This is crazy.
• 52:01
  I am very curious how many
• 52:03
  rounds people get of this.
• 52:08
  I mean, it could be a decent chunk,
• 52:10
  like forty five doubles, not long.
• 52:12
  Those nine handstand pushups,
• 52:15
  even if you do that in two sets.
• 52:18
  You're going to get through
• 52:18
  those twelve step ups and
• 52:21
  one or two sets on chest of our you.
• 52:25
  This is the one Hattie stumbled on.
• 52:31
  Good thing I reread this
• 52:32
  because I thought it was two dumbbells.
• 52:35
  Yeah,
• 52:36
  the last thing you need to do to to
• 52:38
  do with Rogue is reread
• 52:40
  everything six times.
• 52:42
  Because if you mess up one thing,
• 52:44
  you're out.
• 52:45
  Yeah.
• 52:49
  Well, one will be easier.
• 52:51
  Yes, I did stumble a bit.
• 52:53
  It was graceful.
• 52:57
  Lynn, that's blasphemy.
• 53:00
  I'd like workout three to be the new DT.
• 53:02
  DT is DT and it should stay DT forever.
• 53:07
  This can be DT's ugly stepsister.
• 53:11
  Something like that.
• 53:12
  Yeah.
• 53:13
  But DTT still wrecks me.
• 53:17
  My forearms feel like Popeye
• 53:18
  at the end trying to grip
• 53:20
  that bar for that long.
• 53:25
  I wonder if you can have
• 53:27
  three barbells set up for
• 53:28
  that workout or if changing
• 53:30
  weights is part of the skill.
• 53:34
  You'd have to have three barbells.
• 53:38
  You think?
• 53:39
  That's what they're going for?
• 53:42
  Most competitions do not
• 53:43
  test changing weights for fitness.
• 53:47
  But I did hear that the
• 53:51
  reason they had to do that
• 53:52
  is they didn't get the
• 53:53
  equipment they ordered.
• 53:55
  Right.
• 53:57
  Hattie says he could have three.
• 54:00
  Not that I would want to go
• 54:01
  right from twenty-one
• 54:02
  deadlifts into that clean.
• 54:05
  Hattie, I thought we were friends.
• 54:10
  No bueno.
• 54:11
  DT is a good workout.
• 54:13
  It does not need to be changed.
• 54:15
  I agree.
• 54:16
  You want to name this
• 54:17
  something so that it's cool?
• 54:19
  You can name this one something else.
• 54:22
  You can name it Lynn or HK
• 54:26
  or whatever you want.
• 54:29
  I've done so many variations of DT,
• 54:31
  like DT with bar muscle ups in between.
• 54:34
  I mean,
• 54:36
  we've played around with a double DT,
• 54:39
  heavy DT, but DT needs to be DT.
• 54:43
  Yes.
• 54:46
  Like Fran should never be changed.
• 54:47
  Fran is Fran.
• 54:48
  Correct.
• 54:52
  Grace is grace.
• 54:54
  Randy's Randy.
• 54:56
  Isabel's Isabel.
• 55:01
  Agree.
• 55:03
  All right.
• 55:04
  So crash has been announcing
• 55:06
  athletes that they've invited.
• 55:08
  Have you seen any of those?
• 55:10
  Oh yeah.
• 55:10
  I've seen lots of them.
• 55:13
  At least go in.
• 55:15
  Ah, I'm trying to pull it up quick.
• 55:18
  I didn't have this one ready.
• 55:22
  They already announced Carolyn, right?
• 55:23
  I think I saw that one come through.
• 55:25
  Yep.
• 55:25
  Correct.
• 55:26
  Um, Carolyn has been,
• 55:32
  so let's start at the beginning.
• 55:40
  All right.
• 55:40
  I'm going to share.
• 55:46
  So Caroline Stanley.
• 55:49
  Nice.
• 55:50
  Kyra Milligan.
• 55:53
  Carolyn Prevost.
• 55:54
  Our very own.
• 55:58
  Olivia Kerstetter.
• 56:01
  Nice.
• 56:01
  Fisa Goffey.
• 56:05
  Jordan Schiff's.
• 56:10
  Excited to see her there.
• 56:12
  Elizabeth Wishart.
• 56:13
  There you go.
• 56:15
  May have just won Crash Crucible.
• 56:18
  NorCal Classic.
• 56:19
  NorCal Classic, that's it.
• 56:21
  Lydia Fish.
• 56:22
  Awesome.
• 56:25
  Kira Napoli-Miller, friend of the show.
• 56:30
  Nina Vragovic.
• 56:34
  Janie Chiaveri.
• 56:37
  Chiaveri.
• 56:38
  Chiaveri.
• 56:40
  Ellie Hiller.
• 56:43
  Caitlin Sanders, Mary Ellen Sanders,
• 56:47
  Saunders, Lindsay Lane.
• 56:54
  And then I think it's just
• 56:56
  all like reels of stuff.
• 57:01
  Yep.
• 57:02
  So all that's all they've
• 57:03
  named is the women for Crash.
• 57:08
  Yeah, it's stacked.
• 57:09
  That's crazy.
• 57:11
  Yeah, compared to last year,
• 57:12
  like the names that JR is getting,
• 57:15
  the respect that JR now
• 57:16
  gets in this space for his
• 57:18
  programming is elite.
• 57:23
  And you can tell because the
• 57:25
  best athletes want to come
• 57:26
  do his program.
• 57:31
  So Peter asks,
• 57:33
  was there a master's qualifier for Crash?
• 57:36
  I think they've only done
• 57:37
  master's by invite only.
• 57:39
  Correct.
• 57:41
  And they've only done it
• 57:41
  last year and this year.
• 57:45
  So... Yeah, he... Yeah.
• 57:51
  I talked to JR and he said
• 57:53
  possibly next year it would
• 57:56
  be a qualifier for the Masters as well.
• 58:00
  Like you would do the online qualifier.
• 58:02
  But it's just personal invite this year.
• 58:07
  Again.
• 58:09
  He...
• 58:11
  mean I think he's getting so
• 58:12
  many people wanting to
• 58:13
  compete now that he and he
• 58:15
  said but he always wants to
• 58:17
  keep it open for those up
• 58:18
  and comers yeah um and to
• 58:20
  make sure that he has spots
• 58:21
  for them whether he does
• 58:23
  that through invite or
• 58:24
  through qualifier I don't
• 58:25
  know but uh man what a
• 58:28
  field and so many friends
• 58:29
  of our show right fee and
• 58:32
  and carolyn and kyra and caroline stanley
• 58:36
  Jordan chefs, Lydia fish.
• 58:38
  Like these are all people
• 58:39
  that have been Kira Ellie.
• 58:42
  These are all people that
• 58:42
  have been on our show.
• 58:44
  Um, so super stoked to watch this one.
• 58:51
  I know Kate.
• 58:53
  I talked to her at the games curry.
• 58:55
  She, she is going to go for masters.
• 59:04
  No masters invite.
• 59:07
  I think Larry Young was looking for one.
• 59:10
  Larry, you didn't get your invite?
• 59:11
  Got lost in the mail?
• 59:17
  Peter says,
• 59:18
  I came in last in the elite division.
• 59:29
  Oh, it was invite?
• 59:30
  I just remember seeing Mark
• 59:31
  Hutchinson and his stacked back.
• 59:35
  Mark Hutchinson is a pretty
• 59:37
  big star of this behind the
• 59:38
  scenes coming out.
• 59:39
  Is he, he,
• 59:41
  he ends the ending of the whole
• 59:43
  thing is going to be a question he poses.
• 59:46
  Okay.
• 59:49
  And hopefully we can,
• 59:50
  we can do it pretty cool the way,
• 59:52
  but he stayed in my hotel
• 59:53
  with his two dogs,
• 59:57
  which was great for my allergies.
• 1:00:03
  The online qualifier for
• 1:00:04
  legends starts tomorrow.
• 1:00:05
  Workouts get released
• 1:00:06
  tomorrow at noon Pacific time.
• 1:00:08
  Jeez.
• 1:00:10
  Finished the games a week and a half ago.
• 1:00:12
  And now you got to do the
• 1:00:12
  qualifier for legends.
• 1:00:16
  I'm pretty sure.
• 1:00:20
  In the past, you got a,
• 1:00:22
  if you were like top five at the games,
• 1:00:24
  you got an automatic invite to legends.
• 1:00:29
  I don't know who knows what they're doing.
• 1:00:33
  I tell you,
• 1:00:33
  I'm not doing another online qualifier.
• 1:00:35
  So.
• 1:00:39
  Lady finishes top five in the world.
• 1:00:41
  And she thinks she didn't
• 1:00:42
  have to qualifiers anymore.
• 1:00:45
  I see how it is.
• 1:00:46
  I'm just not.
• 1:00:49
  It's Jamie.
• 1:00:55
  I had, he said, Jamie,
• 1:00:56
  I think I only said congrats to Tristan,
• 1:00:58
  but awesome work at the games.
• 1:00:59
  Proud of you.
• 1:01:00
  Bye friends.
• 1:01:02
  Thank you.
• 1:01:04
  See you, Hattie.
• 1:01:04
  Bye, Hattie.
• 1:01:10
  Okay.
• 1:01:10
  Uh, heck yeah, Scott.
• 1:01:11
  Now all the ladies will
• 1:01:12
  watch the behind the scenes for Mark.
• 1:01:13
  He,
• 1:01:14
  he doesn't show up until probably midway.
• 1:01:18
  Um, but then he, him work like once I,
• 1:01:22
  what Mark's one of those guys,
• 1:01:23
  when you pull the string,
• 1:01:25
  like then he just starts
• 1:01:26
  pulling it himself.
• 1:01:27
  Yeah.
• 1:01:29
  But he's great.
• 1:01:30
  I've known him for years.
• 1:01:32
  When I was with Chalk Up,
• 1:01:33
  he was one of the first interviews I did.
• 1:01:37
  Great guy.
• 1:01:38
  Mayhem athlete for life, I think.
• 1:01:46
  I made it from the green
• 1:01:47
  podium and I won last year.
• 1:01:52
  It was top five or top ten in the past.
• 1:01:56
  So yeah, getting all the official stuff.
• 1:02:00
  Uh,
• 1:02:01
  let's finish up with a couple of things.
• 1:02:02
  Uh, another failed drug test.
• 1:02:05
  Yup.
• 1:02:07
  So maybe this is the
• 1:02:08
  beginning of some more, uh,
• 1:02:11
  day of bitch and telly.
• 1:02:14
  finished third place at the
• 1:02:15
  Fitland Fitness Festival
• 1:02:16
  last month and was set to
• 1:02:18
  receive an invite to
• 1:02:19
  compete in the LATAM Cup at
• 1:02:22
  the twenty twenty five tier Wadapalooza,
• 1:02:24
  Miami.
• 1:02:25
  However, Vince,
• 1:02:27
  this Vichin Telly failed
• 1:02:29
  the in competition drug
• 1:02:30
  test when her sample tested
• 1:02:32
  positive for GW one five
• 1:02:34
  one six six sulfone GW one
• 1:02:37
  five one six sulfa oxide
• 1:02:39
  and metabolites of GW five
• 1:02:42
  oh one five one six.
• 1:02:47
  So I mean,
• 1:02:49
  it's nice to know that some of these off.
• 1:02:54
  Like Nana.
• 1:02:56
  Yeah.
• 1:02:57
  Yeah.
• 1:02:57
  Are actually doing tests
• 1:02:59
  because I didn't know any
• 1:03:01
  that have like I don't
• 1:03:02
  think Wadapalooza does any.
• 1:03:04
  I don't think.
• 1:03:06
  I mean, Legends never has.
• 1:03:07
  So, yeah, that's good to hear.
• 1:03:15
  Craig says that's a lot of stuff.
• 1:03:17
  Wow.
• 1:03:18
  Yeah, it is.
• 1:03:22
  It's hard to claim when
• 1:03:24
  something's tainted,
• 1:03:24
  when it's got all of it in it.
• 1:03:26
  Right.
• 1:03:35
  Denise playing dumb.
• 1:03:38
  Come on, Denise.
• 1:03:38
  We know you're all jacked up.
• 1:03:41
  I'm just kidding.
• 1:03:43
  Uh, so how does someone take that stuff?
• 1:03:45
  Is it pills or powdered?
• 1:03:47
  Um, I really, honestly, Denise,
• 1:03:49
  I don't know.
• 1:03:51
  Um, I've,
• 1:03:52
  I've talked to people who've
• 1:03:53
  taken pills in a bag.
• 1:03:54
  If anybody remembers my
• 1:03:56
  interview with someone who
• 1:03:57
  popped a couple of years ago, um, I,
• 1:04:00
  you know, back in the day,
• 1:04:01
  it was an injection in the butt.
• 1:04:03
  Um, if you listen to the Barry Bond saga,
• 1:04:06
  it was, uh,
• 1:04:07
  the cream and the clear that
• 1:04:09
  you just rubbed on places.
• 1:04:11
  I've heard stuff you can
• 1:04:13
  stick under your tongue.
• 1:04:14
  Um,
• 1:04:16
  I've heard all kinds of stuff.
• 1:04:25
  Aaron Frazier says,
• 1:04:26
  Hiller's going to cycle his
• 1:04:27
  GW shirt back out for another video.
• 1:04:29
  Hell, for another merch run, man.
• 1:04:38
  Denise says, hey, I'm totally scared.
• 1:04:40
  This is the first time I've
• 1:04:41
  ever had to pee in a cup.
• 1:04:44
  Well,
• 1:04:44
  as long as you know what you're
• 1:04:45
  putting in your body.
• 1:04:48
  Yeah.
• 1:04:51
  Yeah,
• 1:04:51
  tainted supplements are such a misnomer.
• 1:04:55
  The one thing I would advise, though,
• 1:05:00
  if you ever go to the
• 1:05:01
  Arnold Fitness Festival,
• 1:05:03
  don't just go down the
• 1:05:04
  lanes taking everything they offer you.
• 1:05:07
  Oh, I did that.
• 1:05:07
  Probably a bad decision.
• 1:05:15
  So it's all NSF.
• 1:05:17
  The one thing you have to
• 1:05:18
  check with this stuff, though,
• 1:05:19
  and if you go back and
• 1:05:20
  listen to my interview with
• 1:05:22
  Taylor Detman from Blue City CrossFit.
• 1:05:27
  Yes.
• 1:05:29
  They checked NSF,
• 1:05:32
  but they didn't check the batch number.
• 1:05:36
  And only some of the batches
• 1:05:38
  are actually NSF tested.
• 1:05:40
  Okay.
• 1:05:41
  So you have to look at the
• 1:05:42
  batch number of the product
• 1:05:43
  you're taking and make sure
• 1:05:45
  that it is listed on the
• 1:05:47
  batch number of the NSF website.
• 1:05:51
  That's insane.
• 1:05:52
  It is.
• 1:05:53
  But there are so many
• 1:05:54
  cheaters out there at this
• 1:05:56
  point that you have to put
• 1:05:58
  things in place like this
• 1:05:59
  to make sure that you're
• 1:06:02
  not caught in the fishnet.
• 1:06:05
  Yeah.
• 1:06:05
  Yeah.
• 1:06:11
  You're still probably safe, Denise.
• 1:06:18
  I will say that there are
• 1:06:19
  people at the Masters that
• 1:06:21
  should worry a little.
• 1:06:24
  You would think,
• 1:06:24
  but I feel like it's few
• 1:06:26
  and far between that.
• 1:06:31
  I feel like the people that
• 1:06:32
  are going to take it know
• 1:06:34
  exactly what to do.
• 1:06:36
  When I listen to Hiller talk
• 1:06:39
  about all this stuff and
• 1:06:41
  the half-lifes and the... I
• 1:06:43
  didn't get good enough
• 1:06:44
  grades in science for me to
• 1:06:45
  ever dabble in this stuff.
• 1:06:48
  But it just basically tells
• 1:06:49
  me I know so little about
• 1:06:53
  drugs in sports other than
• 1:06:55
  what I know as a sports fan
• 1:06:57
  watching it over the years.
• 1:06:59
  Like I have no idea like
• 1:07:01
  what it takes to beat it,
• 1:07:02
  what it takes to take it, what it,
• 1:07:05
  any of that stuff and how you, like,
• 1:07:07
  I thought I'd know when I'd
• 1:07:09
  looked at someone that what
• 1:07:10
  if they were or weren't.
• 1:07:12
  And man, until you hit,
• 1:07:13
  see Hillard knowing the
• 1:07:14
  exact muscles to look at the exact, like,
• 1:07:17
  that's how you can tell
• 1:07:18
  it's freaking crazy.
• 1:07:23
  but yeah is there enough
• 1:07:33
  money in masters to warrant
• 1:07:35
  drugs I mean or prestige
• 1:07:36
  enough it's all ego man
• 1:07:39
  yeah I feel like I feel
• 1:07:45
  like it's mostly ego I
• 1:07:46
  would say there's probably
• 1:07:47
  I mean I guess it depends
• 1:07:49
  on who you are like if you're
• 1:07:54
  in the younger categories
• 1:07:56
  and winning consistently, I,
• 1:07:58
  I think there's opportunity there.
• 1:08:00
  I mean, you,
• 1:08:02
  Rudy's a tier sponsored athlete.
• 1:08:04
  Grubbs got pretty good
• 1:08:06
  sponsors and pretty big following.
• 1:08:09
  So I think if you think,
• 1:08:11
  if you were pretty sure you
• 1:08:13
  could get enough media coverage out of it,
• 1:08:20
  I don't know.
• 1:08:20
  I have no idea.
• 1:08:22
  I honestly don't even think
• 1:08:23
  it's about the money.
• 1:08:24
  I think it's about the winning.
• 1:08:27
  It's about your whole life
• 1:08:28
  you dreamed of being the
• 1:08:29
  best and when you find out
• 1:08:31
  that you can't get there,
• 1:08:33
  but maybe with this little
• 1:08:34
  extra you could, that feeds an ego.
• 1:08:37
  Yeah.
• 1:08:39
  It's just really hard for me
• 1:08:41
  to hang up that gold medal
• 1:08:42
  knowing that it wasn't me that did it.
• 1:08:45
  Yeah.
• 1:08:45
  Yeah.
• 1:08:50
  I mean,
• 1:08:50
  I feel like half those people think
• 1:08:52
  that everybody is,
• 1:08:53
  so they are putting
• 1:08:54
  themselves on level playing ground.
• 1:08:58
  I'm sure they have a way to justify.
• 1:09:00
  I feel like if that's your character,
• 1:09:01
  you have a way to justify that.
• 1:09:07
  Judy asks, Scott,
• 1:09:08
  were you tested as a college athlete?
• 1:09:12
  I was tested a few times.
• 1:09:14
  I know I was tested the year
• 1:09:16
  I made swimming nationals in high school.
• 1:09:22
  When I got to that meet,
• 1:09:23
  everybody was tested.
• 1:09:26
  But I don't know.
• 1:09:29
  I'm probably probably was.
• 1:09:32
  I'm assuming I was at some point.
• 1:09:34
  I didn't last long enough.
• 1:09:36
  When I say I swam in college,
• 1:09:38
  I did not last my whole first season.
• 1:09:45
  Halfway through the season,
• 1:09:46
  I realized this was no
• 1:09:47
  longer my life's goal.
• 1:09:50
  My life's goal was in a
• 1:09:51
  different place than this.
• 1:09:53
  It became way too serious.
• 1:09:55
  It wasn't fun anymore.
• 1:09:59
  I hung up my swim trunks and
• 1:10:03
  What about life's work from there on?
• 1:10:11
  Peter Benoit says,
• 1:10:12
  I could rock the three guys
• 1:10:13
  in my group chat if I took TRT.
• 1:10:18
  Seriously,
• 1:10:18
  there's people out there that
• 1:10:19
  that's why they would do it.
• 1:10:22
  Yeah, probably.
• 1:10:23
  Just to be a hot shot in their gym, yeah.
• 1:10:26
  Yeah,
• 1:10:26
  and we all know there's people who
• 1:10:27
  like...
• 1:10:31
  Uh, Bruce says, Jamie,
• 1:10:33
  has it ever crossed your mind?
• 1:10:35
  I, I can't really,
• 1:10:37
  I think it would bother me.
• 1:10:38
  Like Scott was saying to know that I could,
• 1:10:41
  that I couldn't do it on my own.
• 1:10:44
  Um, and I don't, I, the,
• 1:10:49
  the net like side effects
• 1:10:53
  scare the shit out of me that I,
• 1:10:56
  I know I want no part of that.
• 1:11:01
  so when when the first gw
• 1:11:04
  one five one six stuff
• 1:11:06
  popped like two years ago
• 1:11:08
  and we interviewed the guy
• 1:11:09
  from the the one it was
• 1:11:12
  shaylin lori's team I don't
• 1:11:14
  remember their team name at
• 1:11:15
  the time uh because she
• 1:11:17
  switches every year yeah he
• 1:11:19
  popped I looked at the of
• 1:11:23
  the benefits of it and I
• 1:11:24
  was like oh my gosh that's
• 1:11:25
  the drug I need
• 1:11:28
  But then it says pretty much
• 1:11:30
  one hundred percent causes cancer.
• 1:11:34
  So then you look at it and you're like, OK,
• 1:11:37
  and you look into it and you hear, well,
• 1:11:38
  really,
• 1:11:39
  the government just did that
• 1:11:40
  because they didn't want
• 1:11:41
  the miracle drug.
• 1:11:42
  Right.
• 1:11:42
  Yeah.
• 1:11:43
  So they label it with it's
• 1:11:44
  going to cause cancer.
• 1:11:45
  So nobody will take it.
• 1:11:47
  And it's not.
• 1:11:48
  And they can do all these
• 1:11:49
  other pharmaceutical things.
• 1:11:50
  So you don't even know
• 1:11:51
  what's true about this stuff.
• 1:11:52
  Right.
• 1:11:53
  Right.
• 1:11:53
  It's all like dark web,
• 1:11:55
  black market stuff.
• 1:11:58
  And do you want to do you
• 1:11:59
  want to mess around in that
• 1:12:00
  life and take those risks?
• 1:12:05
  Nah.
• 1:12:07
  Nah.
• 1:12:07
  I mean,
• 1:12:07
  I won't even take the COVID vaccine, so.
• 1:12:09
  Yeah.
• 1:12:11
  Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:12:18
  Denise Moore, the low T guys.
• 1:12:21
  Yeah.
• 1:12:22
  Yeah.
• 1:12:22
  We talked to Tony Kerski who
• 1:12:25
  talked about how there is a
• 1:12:30
  level of T you can reach as
• 1:12:32
  a master's athlete and not pop.
• 1:12:35
  And if you're lower than that,
• 1:12:37
  you can get TRT up to that certain point.
• 1:12:41
  Like these are the things I
• 1:12:42
  would never know as someone
• 1:12:43
  who just watches a sport.
• 1:12:45
  But Tony taught me that
• 1:12:47
  because he's been through it.
• 1:12:50
  Yeah.
• 1:12:52
  That's why I don't
• 1:12:53
  understand why Hiller was
• 1:12:57
  removed from the open.
• 1:13:03
  I feel like you have to test
• 1:13:04
  him and show that he's over
• 1:13:05
  the limit because all these
• 1:13:06
  other guys are getting away with it.
• 1:13:09
  I think it's the peptides
• 1:13:10
  that are illegal.
• 1:13:14
  I feel like it was the TRT that got him.
• 1:13:19
  I think it's the peptides.
• 1:13:20
  Peptides are definitely illegal.
• 1:13:23
  They're on the banned list.
• 1:13:25
  TRT,
• 1:13:25
  he would have to be tested to see
• 1:13:27
  where he was at.
• 1:13:31
  But he was taking the B.
• 1:13:34
  They said it a bunch of times.
• 1:13:35
  The one has become illegal
• 1:13:36
  in the United States.
• 1:13:37
  You can't even get it anymore.
• 1:13:39
  The one he was using.
• 1:13:48
  Denise went through menopause cold turkey.
• 1:13:54
  More power to you.
• 1:13:55
  My wife struggled hard.
• 1:14:05
  So the last thing, uh,
• 1:14:09
  tear water Palooza announced their.
• 1:14:14
  their schedule.
• 1:14:15
  It will be January twenty
• 1:14:17
  third to the twenty sixth
• 1:14:19
  twenty twenty five.
• 1:14:20
  Can you believe that twenty
• 1:14:23
  twenty five we're talking about now?
• 1:14:26
  No details as to are they
• 1:14:28
  doing the same format as
• 1:14:30
  years past or not?
• 1:14:32
  And but we know we know the dates.
• 1:14:39
  So if you want to go see
• 1:14:41
  Bruce Wayne in Miami,
• 1:14:43
  the dates are January
• 1:14:44
  twenty third through the twenty sixth.
• 1:14:50
  I went two years in a row.
• 1:14:53
  I don't know if I'll go back.
• 1:14:55
  Yeah, I love seeing everybody.
• 1:14:59
  I love like hanging out with Bruce.
• 1:15:01
  I love like like I see more
• 1:15:04
  people that listen to the
• 1:15:05
  show at Waterpalooza than I
• 1:15:06
  see at any other event
• 1:15:08
  throughout the year.
• 1:15:10
  But like,
• 1:15:11
  it is so hard to get any kind of
• 1:15:14
  coverage at all.
• 1:15:19
  I'd have to figure that out.
• 1:15:21
  I'd have to figure out how
• 1:15:23
  it would benefit this
• 1:15:24
  channel to be there.
• 1:15:26
  Yeah.
• 1:15:27
  Yes.
• 1:15:30
  And unless you got access
• 1:15:31
  back to like the athlete area, it's,
• 1:15:33
  I don't think it's worth it.
• 1:15:35
  It's just a mob of people.
• 1:15:38
  Um, and hard to get, to get through that.
• 1:15:41
  I agree.
• 1:15:48
  Um, BP one five seven.
• 1:15:49
  That's the one.
• 1:15:50
  And I think it,
• 1:15:51
  it has been outlawed in the
• 1:15:52
  United States.
• 1:15:54
  Um,
• 1:15:57
  Cause I'd heard that a
• 1:15:58
  friend had showed me like a
• 1:15:59
  website where they sell
• 1:16:02
  peptides like this, just,
• 1:16:03
  just like California hormones,
• 1:16:06
  something very similar to that.
• 1:16:07
  But I think the BP one five
• 1:16:09
  seven was taken off the market.
• 1:16:16
  Aaron Frazier said when two years ago,
• 1:16:17
  the lines were too crazy.
• 1:16:19
  Two years ago was nuts.
• 1:16:21
  Like, if you got in,
• 1:16:23
  then you're stuck there if
• 1:16:24
  you want to watch the event.
• 1:16:24
  You couldn't even go pee.
• 1:16:26
  Because if you went to pee,
• 1:16:27
  you lost your seat.
• 1:16:29
  Because it was really like one person out,
• 1:16:31
  one person in.
• 1:16:33
  Two people out, two people in.
• 1:16:35
  No, thank you.
• 1:16:39
  It was just way too much.
• 1:16:41
  And Bayfront is... There's
• 1:16:43
  not enough seating to get
• 1:16:45
  very many people in there.
• 1:16:47
  So...
• 1:16:51
  but I love what it represents.
• 1:16:52
  I love that that many people
• 1:16:54
  jam into that park.
• 1:16:55
  Yeah.
• 1:16:56
  Go watch fitness.
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  Like that's,
• 1:16:59
  it shows you that what is
• 1:17:01
  possible with the sport.
• 1:17:04
  If you're, if you do it in the right way.
• 1:17:09
  So I'm not dogging on water Palooza.
• 1:17:12
  I'm dog.
• 1:17:13
  I'm dogging on the fact that
• 1:17:14
  I don't know how it
• 1:17:15
  benefits us as a show to be there live.
• 1:17:22
  And it's rained every year, every year.
• 1:17:27
  Although those are some of
• 1:17:27
  the best times because like
• 1:17:29
  everybody runs for that
• 1:17:30
  hotel across the street and
• 1:17:32
  everybody's in the lobby,
• 1:17:33
  just hanging out and you
• 1:17:35
  can talk to like everyone.
• 1:17:41
  So, well with that, uh,
• 1:17:44
  your lions are on right now.
• 1:17:46
  It is three, three.
• 1:17:49
  And my bears won today.
• 1:17:52
  With absolutely zero offense.
• 1:17:55
  So we finally get a
• 1:17:56
  quarterback and he throws
• 1:17:57
  for ninety yards.
• 1:18:00
  And with one hundred and
• 1:18:01
  forty total yards of offense,
• 1:18:04
  we won twenty four to seventeen.
• 1:18:06
  Wow.
• 1:18:09
  Special teams touchdown defense touchdown.
• 1:18:15
  Yeah.
• 1:18:17
  It took those things to win the game, but.
• 1:18:21
  Yeah.
• 1:18:21
  So hopefully this rookie
• 1:18:23
  quarterback gets the jitters out,
• 1:18:25
  gets the nerves gone,
• 1:18:27
  and we can do something more than, uh,
• 1:18:29
  ninety yards passing, uh,
• 1:18:31
  in the years to come,
• 1:18:32
  because I believe Justin
• 1:18:33
  Fields did better than that last year.
• 1:18:35
  Yeah.
• 1:18:37
  So, uh,
• 1:18:39
  BP fee BPC one five seven is still
• 1:18:41
  sold on California peptides.
• 1:18:43
  Okay.
• 1:18:44
  I could be mistaken.
• 1:18:51
  And in other news, a bird, a bird one.
• 1:18:56
  Is that a bird?
• 1:18:59
  Eagles or Falcons?
• 1:19:00
  I have no idea what he's trying to say.
• 1:19:01
  Well, the Falcons didn't win,
• 1:19:02
  so it's got to be.
• 1:19:03
  All right.
• 1:19:04
  That's an Eagle.
• 1:19:08
  We got a lot,
• 1:19:09
  a couple of people catching up.
• 1:19:10
  Um,
• 1:19:12
  James W. from the Dave Luca Don Fall Talk.
• 1:19:17
  No one is upset.
• 1:19:18
  Dave said blessed.
• 1:19:19
  Everyone is upset.
• 1:19:20
  The decision to go on, in fact,
• 1:19:22
  had nothing to do with Luca,
• 1:19:24
  his family or the athletes.
• 1:19:25
  CrossFit already decided the
• 1:19:26
  show to go on.
• 1:19:30
  And Vi is catching up as well.
• 1:19:32
  Agree, James.
• 1:19:33
  It isn't about the word blessed.
• 1:19:34
  Specifically, as a fan,
• 1:19:35
  I was made to feel like the
• 1:19:36
  family specifically wanted
• 1:19:38
  the games to go on.
• 1:19:39
  That was deliberate and untrue.
• 1:19:45
  And Jay Birch says,
• 1:19:46
  how about them Cowboys?
• 1:19:48
  How about my Spartans?
• 1:19:52
  Did they win yesterday?
• 1:19:53
  They did win.
• 1:19:55
  Okay.
• 1:19:56
  Penn State barely won,
• 1:19:57
  so I kind of shut college football off.
• 1:20:01
  They had a tussle with Bowling Green.
• 1:20:05
  Oof.
• 1:20:06
  But then I see Notre Dame
• 1:20:07
  lose to Northern Illinois, and I'm like,
• 1:20:08
  well, at least they won.
• 1:20:10
  At least they won the tussle.
• 1:20:12
  Yeah.
• 1:20:12
  Yeah.
• 1:20:25
  And the Hurricanes are
• 1:20:26
  looking good this year.
• 1:20:28
  They actually are.
• 1:20:30
  They're the only team in
• 1:20:31
  Florida looking good
• 1:20:32
  because the Gators and the
• 1:20:33
  Seminoles both look like
• 1:20:36
  flaming piles of trash.
• 1:20:41
  All right.
• 1:20:42
  With that, I'm calling it a night.
• 1:20:45
  My allergies are getting the best of me.
• 1:20:48
  With that,
• 1:20:48
  we will see everybody next time
• 1:20:50
  on Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
• 1:20:55
  Bye, guys.