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Nannies from Hell leave children dead! 'Don't Be A Victim' · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. You know, this morning, when
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Speaker 1: I dropped the twins off at school, I watched until
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Speaker 1: they walked all the way in. I drove off, and
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Speaker 1: I worried about them. That started the first time we
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Speaker 1: had a babysitter. Because no matter how much you think
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Speaker 1: you know other people, you can be proven wrong. And
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about daycare disasters and babysitters straight from hell today.
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Speaker 1: I vowed that day that I would spend the rest
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Speaker 1: of my life doing everything I can to protect my children.
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Speaker 1: First of all, take a listen to this A baby
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Speaker 1: send breathing. You can play on it all right, he's
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Speaker 1: not focusing with his eyes. Y. I cannot even stand
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Speaker 1: to listen to that. It hurts me. So much to
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Speaker 1: think of baby Maddie dying. Take a listen to our
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Speaker 1: friend Bill Curtis, American Justice. When paramedics arrived, Woodward led
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Speaker 1: them to the dining room where eight month old Matthew
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Speaker 1: Eapen was lying unconscious on the floor. The infant was
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Speaker 1: gasping for breath and jerking uncontrollably. While the paramedics tried
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Speaker 1: to stabilize Matthew, Woodward paged the baby's mother, Deborah again.
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Speaker 1: This time she made contact, told her what was happening.
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Speaker 1: Matthew was rushed to Children's Hospital in Boston. The boy's
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Speaker 1: parents were both doctors who worked nearby. They arrived at
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Speaker 1: the emergency room within minutes. Five days after being a
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Speaker 1: minute to Children's Hospital in Boston, baby Maddie died. I
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Speaker 1: can't do anything about that, but I can analyze what
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Speaker 1: happened while he was there, along with his British nanny.
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Speaker 1: The opare so it doesn't happen again. With me an
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Speaker 1: all star panel to break you down and put it
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Speaker 1: back together again. Doug Burns, former federal prosecutor now defense attorney,
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Speaker 1: Fox contributor joining me out of Manhattan. Doctor Daniel Bober,
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Speaker 1: Forensics psychiatrists. You can find him on insta a doctor
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Speaker 1: Daniel Bober. He's the chief of Psychiatry Memorial Regional Healthcare System.
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Speaker 1: Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My
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Speaker 1: Feet and the star of a new show Poisonous Liaisons
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Speaker 1: on True Crime Network. Joe Scott Morgan, Tom Peterie, America's
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Speaker 1: leading personal safety expert and author of Tom Petteri's Personal
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Speaker 1: Protection Handbook, which is awesome. Doctor free in head, child
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Speaker 1: safety expert, physician, founder of peademom dot com and the
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Speaker 1: peademom podcast. But first to leave a page Crime online
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Speaker 1: dot Com investigative reporter. Let's first talk about baby Mattie
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Speaker 1: Eapen and then nanny that killed him that was found
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Speaker 1: guilty by a jury. Louise Woodward. Is it true that
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Speaker 1: she would leave the family home which she was supposed
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Speaker 1: to be living and would go see a Broadway show?
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Speaker 1: I believe it was rant almost thirty times. You're correct, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: In this nineteen year old British nanny Louise Woodward, she
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Speaker 1: had worked previously for another family in the suburbs of Boston,
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Speaker 1: but she thought that that was too far away from Boston.
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Speaker 1: For her to enjoy the Boston nightlife. So she took
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Speaker 1: a job with the Epon family in Newton, Massachusetts, and
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Speaker 1: they complained that she was out all the time, out
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Speaker 1: into the wee hours of the morning, and when it
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Speaker 1: came time to watch baby Matthew, that she wasn't ready
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Speaker 1: many times and they complained about her. They told her
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Speaker 1: to get in shape her they were going to have
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Speaker 1: to fire her. And then right after that, Baby Maddie
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Speaker 1: is shaken according to experts, until he suffered shaken baby
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Speaker 1: syndrome and ultimately Baby Maddie died. Let me go straight
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Speaker 1: out to Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor forensics, death investigator, explain
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Speaker 1: what I mean mean by shaking baby syndrome. With shaken
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Speaker 1: baby syndrome, Nancy, this is something that you commonly see
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Speaker 1: with caretakers that expressed their frustration with not being able
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Speaker 1: to manage a child quiet and a child. So what
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Speaker 1: they will do literally is grabbed the child many times
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Speaker 1: by their shoulders and they will shake them vigorously, and
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Speaker 1: this can lead to all kinds of damage to particularly
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Speaker 1: the neurosystem. We're talking about the brain where the brain
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Speaker 1: is kind of literally slashing around inside of the skull.
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Speaker 1: There's also evidence that this can lead to things like
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Speaker 1: detached retinas. There have been kids that have been placed
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Speaker 1: into deep comas and obviously children that have eventually died
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Speaker 1: as well. To doctor Free and hass physician Child safety expert,
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Speaker 1: and you can find doctor Hassett Pete as in Pediatrician
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Speaker 1: petemom dot com. Doctor hass again, thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. What are the signs of shaking baby syndrome? So,
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Speaker 1: there are actually quite a few. Sometimes they can be
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Speaker 1: subtled depending on how often and how often it is
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Speaker 1: happening and how extreme it is. During that episode. Oftentimes
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Speaker 1: the child will appear tired, fussy, seem overly cranky, which
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Speaker 1: actually makes things worse because oftentimes this is due to
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Speaker 1: a baby crying and a frustrated caregiver and so they
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Speaker 1: and then shake them and they become more irritable, crying,
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Speaker 1: they start bombiting. Oftentimes they can start becoming depressed, meaning
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Speaker 1: that they are sluggish. They can become floppy, they can
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Speaker 1: have difficulty breathing, and if it becomes severe enough, they
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Speaker 1: can go into a coma and they can die. Shake
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Speaker 1: a baby syndrome also known as shake an impact syndrome.
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Speaker 1: It's a serious, serious form of abuse inflicted on a child.
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Speaker 1: It occurs when a caregiver or a parent shakes the
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Speaker 1: baby violently and the brain is going back and forth
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Speaker 1: against the inside of the skull and just got morgod.
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Speaker 1: It's my understanding that because the brain is hitting up
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Speaker 1: against the inside of the skull, the brain starts to swell,
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Speaker 1: and at some point, if you don't put a shunt
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Speaker 1: or a hole in the top of the head with
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Speaker 1: a tube in it to release the pressure and to
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Speaker 1: somewhat open the skull for the brain to swell and
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Speaker 1: then subside, then the baby will either be profoundly handicapped
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Speaker 1: due to the brain swelling up against the skull and
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Speaker 1: being damaged, or the baby will die. Yeah, Nancy, And
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Speaker 1: this leads to as what's kind of a congestive event
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Speaker 1: in the brain. The brain. You know, keep in mind,
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Speaker 1: the skull is very static, it's absolutely static. It's a
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Speaker 1: bony structure. And then you've got the soft, malleable, pliable
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Speaker 1: organ that's contained their end and it begins to swell
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Speaker 1: and press against the size. So you know, you were
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Speaker 1: referring to placing the shunt into the skull and this
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Speaker 1: literally relieves the pressure. There is irreversible damage to the
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Speaker 1: brain from lack of oxygen if the child starts stops breathing,
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Speaker 1: which Mattie did. Damage to brain cell, injured nerve cells,
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Speaker 1: shearing of the nerve cells. Also, you have direct trauma
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Speaker 1: to the brain itself due to the brain's striking the
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Speaker 1: inner surface of the skull and catch this the Epens.
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Speaker 1: Mattie EPEN's parents both doctors. They vetted Louise Woodward very heavily.
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Speaker 1: She came from a very well to do, well known
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Speaker 1: prestigious nanny. How can I say firm she had the
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Speaker 1: British accent, she had where he thought the education, But
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Speaker 1: what she didn't have is skills with the baby, baby
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Speaker 1: Maddie dead, crime stories with Nancy Grace. How can you
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Speaker 1: protect your child? That is what we're talking about right now.
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Speaker 1: And in my book, took two years to research, study
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Speaker 1: and write this for you, my proceeds going to National
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Speaker 1: Center Missing Exploited Children. I started writing it about adults
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Speaker 1: being safe exercising, shopping, but I immediately seemed to veer
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Speaker 1: off to protect children. And that takes up a large
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Speaker 1: part of the beginning of the book, including nanny's and
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Speaker 1: babies sitters from hell, and daycare dangers. While not on
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Speaker 1: my watch, you just heard a scary but true story
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Speaker 1: about Louise Woodward and baby Maddie. To top it all off,
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Speaker 1: the mom, Debrah Epon, got rooms of hate mail because
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Speaker 1: she worked. Yes, because she had a job as a physician,
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Speaker 1: she reduced the time she went to work so she
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Speaker 1: could come home and breastfeed and be with baby Mattie.
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Speaker 1: She's working a couple of half days, but people still
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Speaker 1: attacked her because she was a working mom. Can you
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Speaker 1: imagine losing your baby and then being the subject of
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Speaker 1: hateful trolls. That is what she has endured. And just
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Speaker 1: so you know, the trial judge, even after the jury
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Speaker 1: returning a guilty verdict, Judge Hillard Zoe bell As, I
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Speaker 1: recall his name being let the nanny Louise Woodward walk free.
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Speaker 1: That's just a tip of the iceberg. I want to
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Speaker 1: touch on daycare workers, caregivers that come into your home
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Speaker 1: and when you leave your child at their home. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to our friend Heatherlye at KMG Foughts. Forty
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Speaker 1: four October twenty nine, thirty three year old Rochelle Sapp
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Speaker 1: was watching three year old Autumn Eldersma at her in
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Speaker 1: home daycare center. According to newly released court documents, Sapp
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Speaker 1: called Outom's mother They're around nine o'clock that morning to
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Speaker 1: tell her Autumn had fallen down the stairs. She said
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Speaker 1: she would keep a close eye on Autumn and give
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Speaker 1: her some tyl in all. Not even twenty minutes later,
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Speaker 1: Sap called Autumn's mother again to tell her Autumn was
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Speaker 1: quote way out of it and that she thought her
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Speaker 1: neck was hurt. Autumn's mother rushed to SAP's house. Autumn
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Speaker 1: was taken to Orange City Hospital, but because her injuries
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Speaker 1: were so bad, she was airlifted to a hospital in
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Speaker 1: sux Falls. Doctors there diagnosed her with the skull fracture
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Speaker 1: and brain swelling. She died of her injuries October thirty first.
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Speaker 1: SAP's initial claimed that Autumn fell down the stairs didn't
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Speaker 1: match up with a medical opinion that the little girl's
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Speaker 1: injuries were not consistent with that kind of fall. Sap
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Speaker 1: later told police she threw the girl down hard on
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Speaker 1: the floor, causing her to hit her head, because she
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Speaker 1: was frustrated with Autumn, who was having trouble getting her
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Speaker 1: jacket off to my longtime colleague and personal friend, Doug Burns. Doug,
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Speaker 1: I know you're a high profile criminal defense attorney now,
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Speaker 1: but you were once a federal prosecutor and you have
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Speaker 1: raised and help raised plenty of children. Okay, so if
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Speaker 1: you could, for me as a favor, take off your
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Speaker 1: defense hat. How dare she throw this baby girl down
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Speaker 1: the stairs? Because the baby girl loved her new coat
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Speaker 1: and did not want to take her coat off, she
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Speaker 1: threw her down the stairs and she died. Another thing,
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Speaker 1: here's my question, Doug, not hypothetical, not rhetorical, but have
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Speaker 1: you noticed, because I have noticed it all the years
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Speaker 1: I prosecuted all the different trials would be murderer, drugs, rape,
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Speaker 1: a bank robbery. I noticed, Doug, that when the victim
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Speaker 1: is a child, more often you cheap plea deals. And
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Speaker 1: I don't know why that is. You get an infant
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Speaker 1: that's murdered or a little girl like Autumn, and somehow
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Speaker 1: it always goes down to volunteery manslaur not me. Oh
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Speaker 1: h double il n oh. But I did notice overall
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Speaker 1: that when the victim is a child, the plea deal
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Speaker 1: is cheaper. Did you ever notice that, you know, It's
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Speaker 1: interesting because I was studying the materials and so forth,
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Speaker 1: you know, for this morning. That's why you went all
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Speaker 1: your cases, Doug Burns, because you are a worker. Go ahead, Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that, you know, basic old school work ethic.
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Speaker 1: Learned that from my late father. But the point is
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Speaker 1: in studying, I was saying to myself, because you know,
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Speaker 1: a lot of what I've spent my time in is
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Speaker 1: you know, a white collar and financial crime and so on,
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Speaker 1: and been in some organized crime, not so much this area.
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Speaker 1: But you know, I've worked with you for years. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's been fantastic on these type of issues. But the
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Speaker 1: point is, I was saying to myself, Chief, these sentences
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Speaker 1: seem extremely low in to the case that you mentioned
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Speaker 1: with Louise Woodward. I mean that judge let her leave
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Speaker 1: prison after something like two hundred and thirty nine daies
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Speaker 1: and I'm scratching my head saying, what is the story
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Speaker 1: with that? But to your question and to your point,
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Speaker 1: I definitely have noticed a trend which is yes, and
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Speaker 1: it's probably you know, I would defer to the physicians
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Speaker 1: and psychiatrists. They're not in. You're in, and I need
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Speaker 1: an answer some type of human nature. Point, yeah, some
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Speaker 1: type of human nature. A point about how um you
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Speaker 1: know the victim is an infant versus a full grown adult.
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Speaker 1: But to tell you the truth, I find it surprising
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Speaker 1: as you raised it, Nancy, it's true, and I noticed
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Speaker 1: it emphatically as a prosecutor. And now and Burns is
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Speaker 1: pointing out that even a judge did it. When day
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Speaker 1: burn said the judge let Louise Woodward out after two
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Speaker 1: hundred plus days, she got time served. That's how long
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Speaker 1: she had been in waiting for trial since baby maybe
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Speaker 1: Maddie died. She walked out of the courthouse to doctor
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Speaker 1: Daniel Bober, forensic psychiatry, Chief of Psychiatry, Memorial Regional Healthcare System.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bober, I think it's because very often when you
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Speaker 1: have child homicide or infant homicide, the perp is a woman.
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Speaker 1: I mean, think about top Mond Casey Anthon just an example.
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Speaker 1: People look at her and they think, oh, she's a
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Speaker 1: young mom, she would never do that. It's ingrained in
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Speaker 1: us because we think of our mother, our own mother,
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Speaker 1: and when you think of a mother, you don't think
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Speaker 1: of killing a child. So when you have a woman defendant,
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Speaker 1: very often they get a break because of their gender.
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Speaker 1: That's what I think, doctor Bober. Yeah, it's absolutely Nancy.
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Speaker 1: There really is a gender differential reaction. Are people do
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Speaker 1: react differently to different sexes, for sure, And you know
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Speaker 1: in these types of cases, you know, this is everyone's
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Speaker 1: worst nightmare. But people, you know, these nannies, and they
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Speaker 1: do background checks on them, and you think, you know,
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Speaker 1: you can trust it, but you really can't because you
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Speaker 1: just don't know what's in their background and what have
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Speaker 1: not been discovered as it yet to Tampa Cherry, America's
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Speaker 1: leading personal safety expert, author of Tampa Cherry's Personal Protection Handbook,
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Speaker 1: which is awesome Tom. In the book, Don't Be a Victim,
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Speaker 1: Fight Back against America's Crime Way, I talk about how
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Speaker 1: to keep your child safe from hellish daycare providers. Now,
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Speaker 1: knowing what I know and seeing what I've seen, I
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Speaker 1: constantly and when the children, especially were too young to
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Speaker 1: tell me what was going on, did surprise visits at
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Speaker 1: the daycare. Don't laugh, but Terry, but very often my
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Speaker 1: husband want them to get in daycare. You know, fine,
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Speaker 1: I threw a fit, but finally I'm like, okay, I'll
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Speaker 1: go two days a week, two hours at a time,
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Speaker 1: I was so worried because they had screen bloody murder.
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Speaker 1: When I would leave, and I would very often sit
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Speaker 1: in the parking lot and you'd be quiet, because I
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Speaker 1: don't want to hear any snickering from you over there
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Speaker 1: in the corner. I would sit in the parking lot
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Speaker 1: and work because I was in the middle of writing
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Speaker 1: a book at that time, and I'd bring a towel
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Speaker 1: in case it was raining, and I would very often
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Speaker 1: go up to the window where they were and look in.
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Speaker 1: And at first I think the teachers were a little afraid,
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Speaker 1: but after that they got used to it because I
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Speaker 1: didn't trust them. What are your suggestions for keeping your
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Speaker 1: children safe? Like with Autumn, she was at an in
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Speaker 1: home daycare where a woman kept children in her home,
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Speaker 1: which sometimes are unlicensed. What is your suggestion for parents? Well,
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Speaker 1: first of all, you bring up some great points. I
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Speaker 1: went through that too with my son. You know, as
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Speaker 1: parents were providers, were caregivers, but most of all were protectors.
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Speaker 1: So one of the things that I always teach my
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Speaker 1: parents to do that I train is listen. You walk
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Speaker 1: in to a daycare facility, don't look at it from
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Speaker 1: your eyes, look at it from a child's eye. So
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Speaker 1: get down low on your side, you know, to your knees,
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Speaker 1: look at what things could be obstacle or hurting devices
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Speaker 1: for a child. The second thing, which you did naturally
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Speaker 1: is keep them in spotlight. Make sure they know you're
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Speaker 1: over concerned. Make sure that you call at random times,
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Speaker 1: make sure you check and balance on unpredictable times. By
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Speaker 1: keeping them in spotlight, keeps them on their toes and
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Speaker 1: understands that you know this baby. Your child is the
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Speaker 1: most precious thing on life for you as well as
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Speaker 1: for them. Well, put Tom Terry crime stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
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Speaker 1: we're talking about don't be a victim? How can you
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Speaker 1: protect your ChIL run? Here's just a few. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I got carried away. The more I would work on
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Speaker 1: a chapter, the more ideas I would have, the more
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Speaker 1: tips I would find from other professionals like you're hearing
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Speaker 1: right now. For instance, Oh, make sure the provider does
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Speaker 1: not include anyone under qualified to take care of your children.
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Speaker 1: What is the pickup policy? Does the provider have written
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Speaker 1: policies on medication? Here's a good one. Don't have a
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Speaker 1: pool or pond anywhere near the play area. Period. I
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Speaker 1: nearly did a backflip. But our little Methodist church put
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Speaker 1: a little pond in the play area for the children.
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Speaker 1: I spoke to them on a level that they would understand.
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Speaker 1: I said, you're gonna get sued, okay, not by me
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Speaker 1: because my children know how to swim, but by the
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Speaker 1: family where this child is going to fall in that
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Speaker 1: end up upside down under the water, even though it's
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Speaker 1: not deep. They got rid of that prompto, thank goodness.
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Speaker 1: See background checks on every person working there who should
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Speaker 1: be checked. Everybody run vehicle checks for their history. Do
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Speaker 1: you want somebody that has had multiple crashes and it
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Speaker 1: was their fault? Our male repairmen, our service providers on
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Speaker 1: the premises often if other parents are allowed to visit,
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Speaker 1: are they ever alone with your child? Could the daycare
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Speaker 1: at center provide references from other parents? They should? And
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Speaker 1: if they get angry when you ask, then you're at
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Speaker 1: the wrong place. Is there a qualified health professional for
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Speaker 1: the provider? Do they have written policies on medication? Which
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Speaker 1: leads me to the next story, A true story? Listen
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Speaker 1: to our friend Nathaniel read NBC five. Earlier this year,
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Speaker 1: Brenda Colburn received news no grandparent wants to hear I
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Speaker 1: got a call from my daughter. I work at the hospital,
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Speaker 1: and she said you still at work and I said no.
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Speaker 1: When she said, well, Harper's going to the hospital. Brenda's
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Speaker 1: six month old granddaughter, Harper Rose Brier, died on January
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Speaker 1: twenty fourth. During that time, you know, all I kept
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Speaker 1: telling myself was I needed to be strong for my
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Speaker 1: daughter in her fiance at the time, because they needed
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Speaker 1: their strength. They needed me to be there and be
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Speaker 1: strong for them. Court documents say Harper died after ingesting
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Speaker 1: more than a standard dose of an over the counter
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Speaker 1: antihistamine and sedative while in the care of a daycare
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Speaker 1: program run by Stacy Valancourt. She is now facing manslaughter
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Speaker 1: and child cruelty charges. Straight out to our crimal line
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Speaker 1: dot com investigative reporter Levi page, what happened to Harper Rose,
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Speaker 1: So Nancy, This is a case out of Rutland, Vermont,
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Speaker 1: and Harper Rose Brier is six month old. A little
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Speaker 1: baby was found unresponsive while in the care of fifty
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Speaker 1: three year old Stacy Valancourt. She ran a wildcare facility
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Speaker 1: out of her home. She called nine one, paramedics came,
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Speaker 1: got the baby, rushed the baby to the er, the
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Speaker 1: baby died, and an autopsy report showed that baby Harper
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Speaker 1: was given a fatal amount of antihistamines by Valancourt. The
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Speaker 1: antihistamine is deepened hydramamine, and it's used to treat cold
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Speaker 1: and allergy symptoms. But it also sedates you when you
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Speaker 1: take it. And this is a drug, and it says
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Speaker 1: this on the warning label that you do not give
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Speaker 1: it to infants unless a doctor advises someone to give
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Speaker 1: it to an infant. But this baby Harper had this
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Speaker 1: drug in her system. Oh man, she didn't just have
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Speaker 1: it in her system. She had a ton of it
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Speaker 1: in her system. And I'll tell you why the baby
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Speaker 1: got the vinetral because she wanted the daycare wanted her
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Speaker 1: doped up to go to sleep so they wouldn't have
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Speaker 1: to take care of her. Listen to this, and I
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Speaker 1: write about Harper Rose Brier in the book on page
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Speaker 1: seventy eight. As much as the e mts and others try,
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Speaker 1: they could not revise baby Harper. Mommy couldn't understand what happened.
24:08
Speaker 1: Harper had been perfectly fine that morning. The final autopsy
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Speaker 1: reports state Harper was found unresponsive extremely high concentrations of
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Speaker 1: the main ingredient in Bena Drill. Prosecutors allege of Valancourt
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Speaker 1: sedated and otherwise beautiful, happy, healthy, six month old child,
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Speaker 1: where the baby could not lift her head and die.
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Speaker 1: When Valancourt's legal team says she is not guilty, forty
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Speaker 1: supporters of Harper were there, all of them wearing pink
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Speaker 1: T shirts saying justice for Harper Rose. I end the
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Speaker 1: segment by saying, as I go about my days and
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Speaker 1: nights taking care of the twins, I think about Harper's
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Speaker 1: mom and dad. They are making T shirts and planning
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Speaker 1: the next court date and remembering their little girl. Joe
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Speaker 1: Scott Morgan explain, I mean just last night. You know,
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Speaker 1: John David is taller than me now, but he's been
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Speaker 1: sneezing and coughing and carrying on poor thing, to the
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Speaker 1: point he couldn't go to school because got a very
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Speaker 1: strict policy. You sneeze and cough, you're out because everybody's
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Speaker 1: afraid of COVID. So he's been out of school the
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Speaker 1: last two days with a runny nose. Essentially, well, his
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Speaker 1: father gave him benadrill. Last night. I jumped out of
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Speaker 1: that out of that chair and ran over to measure
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Speaker 1: the amount of benajill he was getting. I couldn't help.
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Speaker 1: But even though John David's taller than me. Now, but
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Speaker 1: explain what benagrill does to a child, Yeah, Nancy, it
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Speaker 1: is an antihistamine, which means that, like in John David's case,
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Speaker 1: where you have someone that's fighting with allergies, it will
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Speaker 1: essentially knock those allergies down. It will enable you to
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Speaker 1: get a decent night's read. Your eyes are not going
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Speaker 1: to be as running and congested. But this is the
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Speaker 1: problem with a baby, for instance. Most of the time,
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Speaker 1: and to the best of my knowledge, it's applied with
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Speaker 1: a dropper. It comes in a liquid form. And what
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Speaker 1: happens when you overdose a little baby whose system is
26:16
Speaker 1: so very fragile, Nancy, It leads to things like a
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Speaker 1: respiratory failure, for instance, because it slows the breathing so much.
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Speaker 1: It also slows the heart rate, which is very very
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Speaker 1: dangerous that you will hear about hypertension. This can make
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Speaker 1: a baby hypotensive and so their blood pressure will drop
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Speaker 1: out and suddenly you have a child that's in full
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Speaker 1: cardiac arrest. Well, Baby Harper, I'm sad to say, is
26:43
Speaker 1: not the only child that died in this manner. Take
26:46
Speaker 1: a listen to our friend, Marissa Ulter Brounch News twelve.
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Speaker 1: Police say Carol Cardillo ran an unlicensed daycare out of
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Speaker 1: her home on Edgewood Road for eleven years. Adam had
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Speaker 1: only been in her care for eleven days when he
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Speaker 1: died in twenty sixteen what his parents thought was SIDS.
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Speaker 1: An autopsy revealed to be a deadly overdose of benadrill.
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Speaker 1: Court records found Cardillo had bought ninety bottles of the
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Speaker 1: antihistamine over three years, mostly children's flavor. I want the
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Speaker 1: court you know that I am very said that this
27:18
Speaker 1: has happened to a beautiful little poy. He was a
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Speaker 1: beautiful little poy. During Cardillo's statement, she never apologized or
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Speaker 1: addressed Siegel's parents. She told the court She's always tried
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Speaker 1: to lead a kind and generous life. I asked you, uronic,
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Speaker 1: she us your best judgment, wisdom, compassionate mercy, not only
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Speaker 1: for myself, a place to stop. I don't even want
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Speaker 1: to hear what Jim has to say. The baby is dead,
27:43
Speaker 1: and she can go on and on and on about
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Speaker 1: how compassionate she is, but the baby is dead. Doped
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Speaker 1: up on benadill. Did you hear that that's well over
27:53
Speaker 1: gosh ninety bottles, that's between one and three gallons of benadrill.
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Speaker 1: What is she taking that herself? To? Our friend, doctor
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Speaker 1: free and Hess, physician, child safety expert, founder of pedmom
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Speaker 1: is at Pediatrician, pedemom dot com and the Pedemom podcast.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Hess explain to me how ben a drill and
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Speaker 1: babies don't mix and how you can stop a daycare
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Speaker 1: provider from doping your child up. Yeah, so, just so
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Speaker 1: everybody understands, we actually don't suggest ben a drill in
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Speaker 1: children even under six, without speaking to a physician first,
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Speaker 1: and especially in children under one. Even when I see
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Speaker 1: children in the pediatric emergency room and they're under one,
28:39
Speaker 1: I'm still a little concerned to give it myself, never
28:42
Speaker 1: mind for anybody else. So absolutely, this medication should not
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Speaker 1: have been given to children of that age, any infant.
28:50
Speaker 1: It can collect seizures, a rhythmia, and koma death. I mean,
28:53
Speaker 1: it's really really concerning. We don't know how the metabolism
28:57
Speaker 1: works for kids. A lot of times under six months
28:59
Speaker 1: of age, they don't retabalize medications the same, which is
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Speaker 1: why we're a lot more cautious with them, and this
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Speaker 1: particular medicine can be very dangerous. So absolutely, one of
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Speaker 1: the things I think parents need to be sure of
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Speaker 1: is that they're confirming with the daycare worker that they
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Speaker 1: are outright. We not to give any medication without a
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Speaker 1: discussion first and without a physician's approval. Crime Stories with
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Guys, how can you protect your child from
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Speaker 1: daycare dangers and babysitters nanny's from hell. What I'm talking
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Speaker 1: just the tips of the icebergs in protecting your child.
30:20
Speaker 1: Take a listen to Courtney Cole CBS forty seven, Jacksonville.
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Speaker 1: This mother of two says she was devastated to hear
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Speaker 1: about the death of an infant here at Ewing's Love
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Speaker 1: and Hope Preschool and Academy Here on Lenox Avenue. I
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Speaker 1: don't feel like you can trust that casts anymore. But
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Speaker 1: you really have no option if you don't have anyone
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Speaker 1: to keep your kids while their kids don't go here.
30:38
Speaker 1: She says it makes her want to keep an even
30:41
Speaker 1: closer eye on her three and five year olds. Tesso
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Speaker 1: says they were called out to the center just after
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Speaker 1: one this afternoon. When they arrived, they tried to help
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Speaker 1: jeff Art resuscitate the unconscious infant who wasn't breathing while
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Speaker 1: in a car seat. The child was immediately taken to
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Speaker 1: the hospital. Carl Horn, who works right across the street,
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Speaker 1: said he didn't know what to think when he saw
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Speaker 1: all the police cars come back out. Later came to
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Speaker 1: find out it was a tragedy and cop cars, lights
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Speaker 1: going cast and see crime scene, that sort of things, says.
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Speaker 1: No other children at the facility were hurt, Love and hope, preschool, daycare,
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Speaker 1: anything but and that baby girls not the only one
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Speaker 1: listen to our frenzy KATV News. Police describe the disregard
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Speaker 1: for safety protocols as reckless. The family wouldn't be planned
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Speaker 1: at a funeral, They would be waiting for Christopher get
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Speaker 1: almost afternoon, but police say four employees didn't do their jobs.
31:45
Speaker 1: The driver, Felicia Phillips and her assistant Pamela Robinson, were
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Speaker 1: responsible for unloading the kids, who were then supposed to
31:52
Speaker 1: be checked off a list by transportation supervisor Wanta Taylor
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Speaker 1: when they walked in the classroom. She actually checked him
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Speaker 1: in as being in the classroom, though he never made
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Speaker 1: it into the classroom. Kendra Washington was the fourth line
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Speaker 1: of defense. She's supposed to go outside and look in
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Speaker 1: the vans. So the daycare had all these precautions. This
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Speaker 1: one is supposed to get the children out of the van.
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Speaker 1: This one is supposed to check the van. This one's
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Speaker 1: supposed to check the children in as they come in
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Speaker 1: the door. This one's supposed to go out and search
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Speaker 1: the van. Again, that's odd. Five Lell levels of protocol
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Speaker 1: and they were all totally ignored. And yet another baby
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Speaker 1: a daycare dies and a hot van. Speaking of in
32:38
Speaker 1: home nanny's in babysitters, you got to do a background check.
32:42
Speaker 1: They're easy to do. You can actually do them online.
32:45
Speaker 1: If the babysitter won't give you a full name in DAB,
32:49
Speaker 1: you got the wrong candidate. Also, make sure you look
32:51
Speaker 1: at their social media. You don't want somebody out I
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Speaker 1: sucking on a bog or driving drunk with a bottle
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Speaker 1: in their hand in the car. You can learn so
33:02
Speaker 1: much you It's on you, you parent. It's your duty
33:07
Speaker 1: to check out who is with your children, not just
33:11
Speaker 1: the babysitters, but the teachers at school two. You know,
33:15
Speaker 1: I've checked every one of my teachers out from my children.
33:19
Speaker 1: That's twins, and there are different classes. That's a lot
33:21
Speaker 1: of teachers. Same thing goes for credit check. Trust me.
33:25
Speaker 1: You may think I'm going overboard. You'll thank me later.
33:29
Speaker 1: Don't judge a book by its cover. Please don't. These daycarees,
33:36
Speaker 1: teachers and in home babysitters they look great. The babies
33:40
Speaker 1: are dead. Don't judge the book by the cover. Look
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Speaker 1: them up on social media, ask friends, neighbors, or co
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Speaker 1: workers for recommendations. You can do initial screenings over the phone.
33:53
Speaker 1: I will never forget the first babysitters I was getting
33:57
Speaker 1: for the twins when we would be in Atlanta. They
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Speaker 1: sounded great on the phone. Their recommendations look great. I
34:04
Speaker 1: met with them their three sisters. They stumped a high
34:07
Speaker 1: heaven of nicotine. Now you know babies that are exposed
34:11
Speaker 1: to nicotine have a higher chance of sid's sudden infant
34:16
Speaker 1: death syndrome. I said, hey, do y'all smoke and they
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Speaker 1: went no, So you know, I believe I said, we
34:24
Speaker 1: were just in somewhere and everybody was smoking. I'm like, okay,
34:27
Speaker 1: so I just had a feeling. I met with them again.
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Speaker 1: They stunt of smoke again, all three of them. Number one,
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Speaker 1: they were lying. And number two, if they were too
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Speaker 1: dumb to chew gum and change clothes, they're not smart
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Speaker 1: enough to keep the children. I can't tell you that
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Speaker 1: right now. If possible interview with a husband, partner, or
34:47
Speaker 1: a friend, they may pick up on things you don't.
34:51
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, here it does smell them. The last thing
34:54
Speaker 1: you want is somebody that smells or reeks a pot
34:57
Speaker 1: or alcohol taking care of your baby before you formerly
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Speaker 1: hire them. Get that background check. Don't be embarrassed. Get
35:05
Speaker 1: a nanny cam. Don't even get me started about how
35:10
Speaker 1: many people have caught babysitters and daycare workers dragging their
35:15
Speaker 1: children around, slapping them in the face, typically in home
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Speaker 1: nanny cam's. I vote for live streaming in daycare. Nobody's
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Speaker 1: listening to me. They even have live streaming where they
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Speaker 1: take care of your cat and dog, why not your baby.
35:29
Speaker 1: Try the nanny for a short while a week or so.
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Speaker 1: Make it clear it's a test run. Make sure you're
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Speaker 1: nanny nos CPR in first aid. Check the driving history.
35:41
Speaker 1: You don't want your nanny or your babysitter driving your
35:43
Speaker 1: child around when they have a driving history. As long
35:47
Speaker 1: as my left arm, take a listen to Dominique Sasha KPRC.
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Speaker 1: Smoke pouring from a home daycare the chilling call to
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Speaker 1: nine and the daycare owner, Jessica Tata, arrested, charged and
36:12
Speaker 1: sent to prison for eighty years after leaving a group
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Speaker 1: of children alone with a pan of grease on the
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Speaker 1: stove while she went shopping. Four of the seven children
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Speaker 1: inside that daycare died. Tiffany Dickerson had two children at
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Speaker 1: Jessica Tata's daycare on February twenty four, twenty eleven. Her
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Speaker 1: three year old son, Shamari, never made it out, but
36:34
Speaker 1: her daughter Michaela, then two years old, survived, but was
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Speaker 1: severely burned. I pulled back the sheeting she like appealed lobster.
36:43
Speaker 1: All I saw was flesh, and I was just thinking
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Speaker 1: to myself, like, I don't know how they're going to
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Speaker 1: save her legs. Michaela was rushed to Shriner's Hospital in Galveston,
36:51
Speaker 1: where Tiffany credits the medical team with saving Michaela's legs
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Speaker 1: and placing her on a path to recovery. I don't
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Speaker 1: want you to be upset. I'm getting upset just hearing this.
37:01
Speaker 1: But what I want you to do is take action
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Speaker 1: and protect your children. I know, we don't want to
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Speaker 1: think that the babysitter, of the nanny or the daycare
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Speaker 1: could be negligent. Like this woman was Tata who actually
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Speaker 1: went to Target. She wasn't even in a hurry, according
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Speaker 1: to the shop, to the salespeople, She's just taking her time,
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Speaker 1: leaving all those children at home with a stove on
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Speaker 1: and a pan of hot grease. If you think you've
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Speaker 1: heard it all, I hate to be the one to
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Speaker 1: break it to you. You haven't take a list of
37:36
Speaker 1: our friends at ABCGMA this morning. A mother is suing
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Speaker 1: over troubling footage showing preschoolers taking part in what she
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Speaker 1: calls a toddler fight club. In the twenty sixteen video,
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Speaker 1: teachers are seen cheering the young children on one jumps
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Speaker 1: enthusiastically while the other helps students put on toy fists.
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Speaker 1: One little boy on camera tries to bring up the fight.
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Speaker 1: The incident came to light after a ten year old
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Speaker 1: boy captured this video on his iPad showing his four
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Speaker 1: year old brother allegedly being forced to fight with another student.
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Speaker 1: They're fighting. He went and had his iPad on him
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Speaker 1: that day. Who knows if we even would have found
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Speaker 1: out about this. The boy's mother, Nicole Mercial, immediately reported
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Speaker 1: the incident to the school and to authorities, but while
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Speaker 1: the two teachers seen in the video were fired, the
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Speaker 1: state did not file any criminal charges. I'm no one's
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Speaker 1: being held accountable, and if I'm not a voice for
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Speaker 1: my children, who will be now? Mercille is suing a
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Speaker 1: daycare for more than twenty five thousand dollars and hopes
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Speaker 1: the state will reconsider filing charges. A taught fight club
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Speaker 1: led by the teachers. Don't be a victim, and don't
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Speaker 1: let your children be victims. They can't speak for themselves.
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