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Back-to-Back in London? Bucky Chimes in | Huddle Up: Wednesday, May 10 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: The Fields Auto Group proudly presents Huddle.
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Speaker 2: Up with Bucky Brooks.
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Speaker 1: JP Shadrick, John Oser, and NFL Network analyst and former
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Speaker 1: Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest on your Jacksonville Jaguars.
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Speaker 2: We're not done.
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Speaker 1: We're going to continue to work to build this team
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Speaker 1: to make his as potent as we can going into
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Speaker 1: the regular season. Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks starts right now.
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Speaker 2: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. Today is Wednesday, May tenth,
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Speaker 2: JP Shadrick, NFL Network analyst Bucky Brooks, and Jaguars dot
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Speaker 2: wherever you get your pods. Busy times. In kind of
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Speaker 2: an odd part of the calendar, Rookie mini camps coming
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Speaker 2: up Otaser a couple weeks away. The schedule release fully
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Speaker 2: is coming out Thursday. The u K Games were announced
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Speaker 2: this morning, so let's start with that, guys. The Jaguars
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Speaker 2: Week four at Wembley hosting the Atlanta Falcons and then
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Speaker 2: Week five at Tottenham Hotspur as the visitor against the
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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. It'll be the tenth time the Jaguars have
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Speaker 2: been in London.
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Speaker 1: John, and the ninth at Wembley, is that correct? So,
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Speaker 1: and this has felt like something that's sort of overdue,
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Speaker 1: meaning the back to back, and a few fans may
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Speaker 1: see a mixed message, you know, or they're playing two
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Speaker 1: in London, but you know, remember a home game and
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Speaker 1: an away game are dramatically different in terms of what
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Speaker 1: it means to a team. They're giving up one game
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Speaker 1: out here in Iti Bankfield. The road game was gonna
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Speaker 1: be in Buffalo anyway. So you've always heard talk to it, Pen,
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Speaker 1: You've heard the same thing that they'd like to figure
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Speaker 1: out a way to do this, meaning back to back,
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Speaker 1: so that you can take advantage of being there. I
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Speaker 1: have one more presence game over there. So my gut
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Speaker 1: is if they figure this out and it's done right
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Speaker 1: in the success, that this may not be the last
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Speaker 1: time they go back to back. And yeah, ten days
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Speaker 1: in the UK for us JP, whether we like it
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Speaker 1: or not.
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Speaker 2: That's right, Bucky.
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Speaker 3: No, I mean I think this is a great thing.
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Speaker 4: I think it's a great thing in terms of growing
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Speaker 4: the game, but also growing the Jaguars brand overseas. You
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Speaker 4: talked about already having a presence there to be able
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Speaker 4: to have back to back games. You'd like to think
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Speaker 4: that even if they're home or away games, it should
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Speaker 4: be busy.
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a sold out spot.
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Speaker 4: But now you have an opportunity to really create a
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Speaker 4: teal environment in the UK.
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Speaker 3: This is something that should be exciting.
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Speaker 4: Even though Jaguars fans won't get a chance to see
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Speaker 4: those two games on domestic soil, it still should be
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Speaker 4: a huge opportunity for the team to grow and to
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Speaker 4: take advantage of a situation that should be favorable for them.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and to that point the last part there, remember
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Speaker 2: how narrow home field and playoffs seating and things can be.
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Speaker 2: It can come down to one game early in the season.
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Speaker 2: So the Jaguars not having to go to Orchard Park
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Speaker 2: and play in that hostile environment against the Buffalo Bills.
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Speaker 2: You go to a more neutral type style venue in London. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and you're there for ten days. The Bills are coming
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Speaker 2: in later.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 2: I think that's it could be huge down the line
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Speaker 2: in terms of seating in playoff implications.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, shot cons always said they're gonna play in London,
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Speaker 1: so learn how to play that. I mean that was
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Speaker 1: way way way back in the day. It needs to
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Speaker 1: be a home field advantage I have felt over the years.
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Speaker 1: I don't there was a time where I didn't necessarily
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Speaker 1: feel like they had a great advantage fan wise in London.
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Speaker 1: I think that's changing. You can always pick out games
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Speaker 1: and find exceptions, but jp you've been there. Overall, they
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Speaker 1: haven't won all their games in London because they haven't
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Speaker 1: been very good a lot.
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Speaker 3: That's right.
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Speaker 1: Overall, I felt like there's there have been times where
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Speaker 1: they have played better and seemed more prepared for the environment,
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Speaker 1: for the newness, for whatever than their opponents. I think
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Speaker 1: overall they're good in London. When they are good, they
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Speaker 1: played poorly there last year. The Denver game was obviously
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Speaker 1: a benchmark game for Trevor, but I think it should
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Speaker 1: be a good thing as long as you don't get
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Speaker 1: a blizzard at Tottenham to not have that game late
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Speaker 1: season in Buffalo. I mean, if there's something that there's
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Speaker 1: something that stands out, it would be that the Atlanta
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Speaker 1: game being here or being in London, I don't really
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Speaker 1: seem much to differentiate that, But yeah, not having playing
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Speaker 1: in a blizzard in January and Buffalo would be good.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it should be good.
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Speaker 4: I mean, like you talk about the weather, Van is
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Speaker 4: just not having to deal with that part of it. Also,
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Speaker 4: you think about the travel, then travel may be working
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Speaker 4: one way because Jacksonville.
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Speaker 3: Will already be over in the UK.
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Speaker 4: You don't have to worry about like, oh, how do
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Speaker 4: we get back and forth when you play the back
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Speaker 4: the second of the back to back, whereas Buffalo have
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Speaker 4: to come over, they have to get acclimated, they have
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Speaker 4: to deal with the time and all that other stuff.
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Speaker 3: And so it should be a huge advantage.
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Speaker 4: We have seen how Doug Peterson has been able to
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Speaker 4: take advantage of these schedules when it comes to getting
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Speaker 4: the team ready, whether it's short weeks, back to back,
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Speaker 4: three games in eleven days, whatever that is.
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Speaker 3: He's been good at adapting and adjusting.
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Speaker 4: And so this is the opportunity for maybe the Jacks
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Speaker 4: to have a competitive advantage because they are playing back
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Speaker 4: to back weeks overseas and they have fewer adjustments that
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Speaker 4: need to be made to play in this game than
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Speaker 4: some of the other teams.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how long it'll be an advantage JP,
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Speaker 1: but there's certainly over a ten year period, there have
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Speaker 1: been instances where I have felt like the Jaguars knowing
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Speaker 1: how to get there and get back have have had
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Speaker 1: to have been an advantage in the game.
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Speaker 2: In the Ravens game years a seventeen, they wanted no
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Speaker 2: part of that trip.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the one hear that really stood out.
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Speaker 1: I can't help but believe that there were other years
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Speaker 1: where it mattered and just wasn't as obvious. Now I
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Speaker 1: don't know. I think the league is going to have
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Speaker 1: more teams rotating through that, so I don't know how
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Speaker 1: long it'll be a huge advantage because I think I
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Speaker 1: think that's an advantage even from a logistical standpoint, like
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Speaker 1: our logistics people are football ops. Even if the players
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Speaker 1: don't know how to get there, I mean don't know
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Speaker 1: exactly what's happening. The smoothness that the football operations people
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Speaker 1: at this place get this team to and from London,
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Speaker 1: I think it does make a difference in terms of players'
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Speaker 1: mentality that week. So I think that, you know, I
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Speaker 1: think that could be an edge because this team has
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Speaker 1: been there, you know, so often.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, logistics, the travel, the hotels, the equipment staff, everything
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Speaker 2: that goes into the behind the scenes movement of the team.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no frantic feeling when this team goes well.
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Speaker 2: They've got it down to a science, that's for sure.
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Speaker 2: Final thought on this. The Falcons, by the way, have
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Speaker 2: won the last four regular season meetings against the Jaguars.
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Speaker 2: The last Jags went over the Falcons in the regular
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Speaker 2: year two thousand and seven, and it's the third trip
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Speaker 2: for the Falcons to London all time. They went in
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Speaker 2: fourteen and twenty one the Bills. Of course, Well, the
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Speaker 2: Jaguars won the last meeting had to head in twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty one, nine to six, the Josh Allen Bowl and
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Speaker 2: the Bill's second trip to London. Of course, the Jaguars
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Speaker 2: beat them there back in twenty fifteen thirty four thirty one.
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Speaker 2: That was the exciting ball game. Jags had a big lead,
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Speaker 2: lost the lead.
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Speaker 1: A touchdown when Hearns hit the pylon at the end.
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Speaker 2: Of thebslutely got his elbow down.
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Speaker 1: He has there been in the time that I've been here, JP,
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Speaker 1: since I've been back in twenty eleven, has there been
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Speaker 1: a bigger upset in Jaguars history than then beating the
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Speaker 1: Bills out there that day. I don't know. I mean,
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Speaker 1: like they beat the Patriots in a year where they
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Speaker 1: turned not to be very good, but the Patriots went
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Speaker 1: out here. Didn't feel like an upset at the time.
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Speaker 1: I don't know that there's been a bigger upset where
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Speaker 1: you looked at the Jags and said they they should
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Speaker 1: not win this game, and and and to beat the Bills.
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Speaker 1: There are a couple of games over the Colts. I
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Speaker 1: guess they shut out Luck once here that was kind
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Speaker 1: of a weird. But that Bills team was good, yeah,
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Speaker 1: and that Jaguars team was bad.
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Speaker 2: And the way they melted down in that game too,
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Speaker 2: the second half, Bucky, I mean they're turning the ball over,
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Speaker 2: Blake's throwing interceptions all over the field, I mean it
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Speaker 2: is just an avalanche. Yeah, and then there's no way
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Speaker 2: and then they drive down the field with a minute
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Speaker 2: left and win, Like what yeah, done that all second half?
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Speaker 3: No. I mean, it's funny how those those things can happen.
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Speaker 4: And there's something about certain teams that you see in
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Speaker 4: your face that you just have that that that confidence.
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Speaker 4: You know, it's it's something to be said of you know,
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Speaker 4: maybe our field form when the Indianapolis Colts come to
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Speaker 4: the bank and we just feel like when they when
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Speaker 4: they show up, we gonna win.
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Speaker 3: And so, uh, it's great to have that over a
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Speaker 3: good team.
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Speaker 4: But when you just look at those those back to
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Speaker 4: back games and the teams that you talked about, you
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Speaker 4: talked about an upstart Falcons team. We have a big
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Speaker 4: time running back and b Jon Robinson to go with
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Speaker 4: what Arthur Smith has assembled in terms.
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Speaker 3: Of that running game. But then the Bills, the Bills.
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Speaker 4: This is one that might count extra because now you're
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Speaker 4: talking about a competitor on a playoff chase, and you
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Speaker 4: think about tie breakers and all the different things that
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Speaker 4: go along with seating.
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Speaker 3: This has big game potential.
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Speaker 4: I won't say must win potential, but it could be
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Speaker 4: a must win if you want to get the kind
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Speaker 4: of seating that you want in the tournament.
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Speaker 1: Bucky, I'm gonna do something I don't usually do, which
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Speaker 1: is assume assume thing I mean isn't not a big
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Speaker 1: assumer you know what happens. Yeah, but let's assume that
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are gonna be good over the next five
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Speaker 1: six herein most people think that with Trevor and the
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Speaker 1: the whole thing. So if the Jaguars are indeed stepping
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Speaker 1: into this four team dance that seems to be the AFC,
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Speaker 1: which is it's sort of the prevailing thing right now
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Speaker 1: that it's going to be Jacksonville, Buffalo, Cincinnati and Kansas City.
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Speaker 1: That won't obviously hold all the time, but that's what
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Speaker 1: looks like could happen. How important is this year when
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Speaker 1: you're sort of stepping into that fray for the first
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Speaker 1: time of playing Cincinnati, Kansas City and Buffalo? And I'm
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Speaker 1: saying this because the Buffalo game? How important are those
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Speaker 1: first mean they've never really played the Bills or this
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Speaker 1: or the Bengals as a team that has some flex
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Speaker 1: to it. Do you follow what I'm saying that now
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Speaker 1: they're in the dance? How important are these? Are those
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Speaker 1: games going.
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Speaker 2: To be.
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Speaker 1: Long term? If at all? Am I making too much
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Speaker 1: out of that?
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Speaker 3: Now? You're not making too much out of it.
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Speaker 4: I think in spite of the Jaguars making the postseason
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Speaker 4: last year as a division winner, these games will still
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Speaker 4: be considered measuring stick games. It's where do we stack
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Speaker 4: up against the teams that are supposed to be the heavyweights?
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Speaker 4: Are we really in the conversation as being an emerging
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Speaker 4: heavyweight in the AFC.
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Speaker 3: If we are how do we go toe to toe
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Speaker 3: against these teams? If we win games? Okay, how impressive
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Speaker 3: was to win? Do we win with ease? Or was
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Speaker 3: this a nail bier?
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Speaker 4: Because it gives you an opportunity to understand exactly who
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Speaker 4: you are and where you fit in the landscape.
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Speaker 3: So these games are big, Doug and prime.
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Speaker 4: Doug petersoner probably trying to downplay the significance, but man,
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Speaker 4: you can't help but look at the schedule and look
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Speaker 4: at the games that you're facing, when you're facing these teams,
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Speaker 4: and whether it's primetime or not, and say, yeah, the
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Speaker 4: perception has certainly changed on us. But now let's make
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Speaker 4: that perception of reality. Let's be the team that we
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Speaker 4: think and everyone else thinks we can be.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the perception wise, JP, if you go zero and
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Speaker 1: three in those games, oh and you and you still
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Speaker 1: win the Division eleven? Is you know whatever I mean
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Speaker 1: we're speculating here, then all of a sudden, you're the
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Speaker 1: small guy on the ball. And so yeah, it's it'll
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Speaker 1: be interesting to see how they how they fare. Are
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Speaker 1: they ready for primetime so to speak?
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Speaker 2: Which I guess we'll find out Thursday.
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Speaker 3: Well.
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Speaker 2: The full schedule is set to come out Thursday at
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Speaker 2: eight o'clock. That's the next big tent pole event in
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Speaker 2: the league off season. Well, this weekend Friday Saturday, it's
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Speaker 2: rookie Mini camp who and John Osier. As you can tell,
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Speaker 2: I am ready is elated, fired up, cannot wait to
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Speaker 2: get on the grass.
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Speaker 1: I have my sunscreen, my short shorts, I'm my tank top.
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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go.
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Speaker 3: I it's your favorite part.
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Speaker 4: I know it's your favorite part of the year, like
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Speaker 4: you downplay it, but I know you love the.
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Speaker 1: Well, let's clarify here. I do not think the off
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Speaker 1: season is unimportant. I think the off season is very
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Speaker 1: important for these players and the coaches from a mental standpoint,
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Speaker 1: from a teaching, a learning the offense standpoint. My frustration,
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Speaker 1: my old man out at kids on the lawn comes
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Speaker 1: in when I get questions from people saying, how did
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Speaker 1: so and so look during an OTA practice? That to
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Speaker 1: me is very unimportant and very hard to judge because
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Speaker 1: so often how they look, say they drop a pass,
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Speaker 1: say they run the wrong route. Well, are they teaching
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Speaker 1: something for the first time? We're seeing essentially a rough
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Speaker 1: draft a lot of the times, and I think too
14:28
Speaker 1: many media types, oh well, he didn't play well, he
14:31
Speaker 1: dropped a pass in that rookie Muni camp where he
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Speaker 1: was off sides during this play in the Rooky camp.
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Speaker 1: That means he's not any good JP. I tire of that.
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Speaker 1: I don't consider this time unimportant because I do think mentally,
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Speaker 1: particularly this offseason, when they're trying to hone this offense down,
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Speaker 1: trying to show the players how they're going to be
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Speaker 1: moving forward. I think it is important for that. Bucky.
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Speaker 1: I know you think it's all important.
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Speaker 3: I mean it is important.
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Speaker 4: How you do anything is how you do everything, and
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Speaker 4: so if you want to be a team that can
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Speaker 4: piece it high, you want to have championship caliber practices.
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Speaker 3: Even in the off season.
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Speaker 4: You want guys to get used to operating and upholding
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Speaker 4: the standard. And so that standard was established last year.
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Speaker 4: But just because you did it last year doesn't mean
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Speaker 4: you can do it again this year. So it's re
15:14
Speaker 4: establishing all those positive things that you did at the
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Speaker 4: end of last season. It's bringing in some new players
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Speaker 4: like Calvin Ridley and others to make sure that they
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Speaker 4: work and operate at the level that has been established.
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Speaker 4: So it doesn't necessarily mean anything directly, but indirectly it
15:31
Speaker 4: does have greater meaning because you want everyone to understand
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Speaker 4: exactly how things should flow based on what the Jaguars
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Speaker 4: have created in the locker room. That standard, living up
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Speaker 4: to that standard, performing up to that standard. I mean,
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Speaker 4: that's the key. That's the secret sauce to be in
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Speaker 4: a consistent winning team.
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Speaker 1: Okay, break down the secret sauce. Thenpoint Boti tell me this,
15:51
Speaker 1: because I'm curious. Obviously didn't play, and if I had played,
15:55
Speaker 1: it had been a very low level. How for a
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Speaker 1: guy like Ridley, how critical is OTA's these practices we're
16:04
Speaker 1: going to be watching to getting him ready and being
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Speaker 1: up to speed in training camp? How much more important
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Speaker 1: is training camp than this time for Ridley? You follow me?
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Speaker 1: How does that shake out?
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Speaker 3: Or No? I think it's a good question for Ridley.
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Speaker 4: I think the first thing is you want to knock
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Speaker 4: off the russ and before you can knock off the rush,
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Speaker 4: you have to get in great shape. So if he's
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Speaker 4: in great shape now he can begin to perform like
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Speaker 4: the Pro Bowl caliber player that we saw at Atlanta.
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Speaker 4: Then when it comes to the timing, having a clear
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Speaker 4: understanding of what he's expected to do, how much time
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Speaker 4: or freedom he has to like freelance on certain routes
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Speaker 4: based on where he is in the progression before he
16:43
Speaker 4: has to be available for Trevor Lawrence. The only time
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Speaker 4: that you can work that stuff out is through repetition
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Speaker 4: on the practice field in simulated moments, whether practice or
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Speaker 4: those things where he's able to kind of get a
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Speaker 4: true sense of this is how quickly the ball comes
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Speaker 4: out of Brever's hands, this is where I need to be,
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Speaker 4: this is need to do that. And as you began
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Speaker 4: to take those little things and get the confidence that
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Speaker 4: we're on the same page within it really sparks and
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Speaker 4: spreads like wildfire during training camp. So but you start
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Speaker 4: building the foundation during this time so that when you
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Speaker 4: get the training camp man, you begin to have.
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Speaker 3: Those special plays that you feel great about.
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Speaker 4: A this office can play at a high level because
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Speaker 4: Trevor and I are on the same page.
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Speaker 2: Sidle up podcasts well, Rookie Minnie camp. This weekend, we'll
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Speaker 2: look for John's stat lines each and every day after
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Speaker 2: practice and of course OTA, so there will be three
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Speaker 2: OTA practices opening the media number one, four and seven,
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Speaker 2: that's a couple of weeks away, and then May thirtieth
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Speaker 2: and then June fifth, and then there's a coaching staff
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Speaker 2: availability the week after that, and then there's three days
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Speaker 2: of mandatory veteran mini camp. This is John super.
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Speaker 1: Bowl, it really is. Man. I look forward to it all.
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Speaker 1: I may not sleep during the six weeks. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's go on fumes.
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Speaker 3: I like that. And I'll bet you gotten tougher you
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Speaker 3: get in teler sasn't tougher. That's good.
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Speaker 1: The main storyline is going to be does Doug make
18:12
Speaker 1: the veterans go to mini camp?
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Speaker 3: Right?
18:16
Speaker 1: I'll bet he does.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess that very few, but you never know.
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Speaker 2: I mean we'll say they need to have some something.
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Speaker 1: How important is it, Bucky?
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Speaker 3: Like?
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Speaker 1: Uh, if you're a fifth year guy, Bucky, you know,
18:29
Speaker 1: and there's no fifth your guys in this scheme yet.
18:31
Speaker 1: But how much would it bother you?
18:32
Speaker 3: Say?
18:33
Speaker 1: Next year?
18:34
Speaker 3: Uh?
18:35
Speaker 1: I don't think Christian Kirk would do this because he
18:37
Speaker 1: seems like he's a guy who's going to be here,
18:39
Speaker 1: you know, the offense wide receiver. How important is it
18:43
Speaker 1: for him to be at OTAs. I don't think it's
18:47
Speaker 1: very important. I think the quarterback has to be there
18:49
Speaker 1: and young guys learning offenses have to be there. As
18:52
Speaker 1: long as it's the right guy. Reggie Wayne never went
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Speaker 1: to OTAs.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I can understand it.
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Speaker 4: I understand this sentiment, but I do know that if
19:02
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence is the one who's distributing the ball as
19:05
Speaker 4: a pass catcher, I want to be around because the
19:08
Speaker 4: last thing I want to do is have him become
19:10
Speaker 4: comfortable with someone else where. Now the ball starts going
19:12
Speaker 4: elsewhere instead of coming to me. So I'm gonna make
19:15
Speaker 4: sure out of that insecurity that I show up all
19:19
Speaker 4: the time to make sure that we're on the same page,
19:21
Speaker 4: We're still well connected. I continue to hold my spot
19:26
Speaker 4: in terms of like the pecking order, in terms of
19:29
Speaker 4: in his eyes. So yeah, so even though you may
19:31
Speaker 4: not go to the four off season workout, you got
19:33
Speaker 4: to put some time together with your quarterback because he
19:36
Speaker 4: has the ball and you guys, being on the same
19:38
Speaker 4: page is most important when it comes to often.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it purely depends jp on the player.
19:43
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I joke about it, but Reggie
19:47
Speaker 1: Wayne and Marvin Harrison were rarely at OTA.
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Speaker 2: Maurice Jones showed up. Yeah, well running back.
19:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, so uh, as much as I joke about it,
19:55
Speaker 1: I think it depends on the player, uh the status
19:58
Speaker 1: in the league. When Reggie did it, he would show
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Speaker 1: up for the first couple of days the OTAs, make
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Speaker 1: sure the offense was still what he remembered, and then
20:06
Speaker 1: he would show for the three day mini camp. But different,
20:13
Speaker 1: different approaches.
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Speaker 3: So I would say, yeah, different approaches.
20:16
Speaker 4: I think in a warm weather place like Jacksonville, where
20:19
Speaker 4: guys can live year round, there's no reason why you
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Speaker 4: can't have almost one hundred attendance and offseason workouts and OTAs.
20:27
Speaker 4: If you are a team that is like, if you
20:30
Speaker 4: have a young team or a team that is really
20:32
Speaker 4: committed to competing at the high level, then you have
20:35
Speaker 4: to put that time in together. Not just because of
20:37
Speaker 4: the x's and o's and all that, but the most
20:39
Speaker 4: connected teams are the ones that win, and the only
20:42
Speaker 4: way you can build that connection is by being around
20:45
Speaker 4: each other a ton and so it's not just what
20:48
Speaker 4: you're doing on the field, but it's a the NBA
20:51
Speaker 4: players are going on tonight, Hey guys, why don't we
20:54
Speaker 4: get together somebody's house, somebody gets some wings, whatever, We
20:56
Speaker 4: watch all the games together and through that social lizing,
21:00
Speaker 4: you begin to develop this chemistry that kind of plays
21:03
Speaker 4: out where you can finish each other's sentences that you
21:06
Speaker 4: kind of know what everyone is thinking.
21:07
Speaker 3: And so it's not just the practical part.
21:10
Speaker 4: Of being on the field together, it's being around each
21:14
Speaker 4: other and just developing that positive vibe, that energy that
21:18
Speaker 4: is kind of like the un I mean, the hidden
21:21
Speaker 4: part of what is a key key ingredient to being
21:25
Speaker 4: a successful in the championship caliber team?
21:28
Speaker 2: Bucky kind of off topic, but you mentioned wings, flats
21:31
Speaker 2: or drums.
21:35
Speaker 4: Can I get them all? Just bring them all. I
21:37
Speaker 4: just want a big bucket of all of them. Give
21:39
Speaker 4: me some flats, give me some drums preference. I would
21:42
Speaker 4: say probably drums more than flats because I have to
21:44
Speaker 4: work a little harder.
21:45
Speaker 3: But it doesn't matter.
21:46
Speaker 4: I'm gonna break them off either way, so I can
21:48
Speaker 4: go whatever whatever's left.
21:49
Speaker 3: I can take.
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Speaker 2: I think there's more meat on flats, John, I mean,
21:52
Speaker 2: you can break the bone out. I know you're a
21:54
Speaker 2: big chicken on the bone guy, John. So that's why
21:57
Speaker 2: I didn't ask you first.
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Speaker 4: I can go to the rest of my life, John, John,
22:01
Speaker 4: you got to be able to, like like if you
22:05
Speaker 4: you should be able to pop all that pop it
22:07
Speaker 4: all in you and get all the meat off of it,
22:10
Speaker 4: bone comes out clean. And if and and and if
22:13
Speaker 4: you're a bonus wing guy, then we have issues in itself.
22:15
Speaker 3: That's a nice one.
22:16
Speaker 2: That's a nugget such things.
22:19
Speaker 3: That's right. You need to be at the kids table.
22:21
Speaker 4: You can get you a kid's meal with some curly
22:23
Speaker 4: fries and stuff like that.
22:24
Speaker 3: We can just leave.
22:25
Speaker 1: Put me at the kids table. At the chicken table. Yeah,
22:29
Speaker 1: on the side of that Mac and cheese, Bucky Little
22:32
Speaker 1: mac and cheese or King Oh. I came to top
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Speaker 1: it off.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what to do.
22:39
Speaker 2: We're learning a lot today.
22:40
Speaker 1: I get a juice box for that.
22:42
Speaker 3: Yes you can.
22:44
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