Latest / The Quark Side - Quantum Physics Podcast / A New Quantum State Could Transform What We Can Build on a Chip
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to the quart Side Quantum Physics Podcast, an exploration
- 0:05Speaker 1: of the fundamental structure of reality where quantum laws govern matter, energy,
- 0:11Speaker 1: and information. Here, uncertainty is a feature, not a flaw,
- 0:16Speaker 1: and understanding begins at the smallest scales.
- 0:27Speaker 2: I want you to imagine, just for a second, going
- 0:29Speaker 2: out and buying like a brand new laptop, but instead
- 0:32Speaker 2: of those tiny metal wires routing electrons all around the motherboard,
- 0:36Speaker 2: the inside of your computer's processor is just filled with
- 0:39Speaker 2: this frictionless, glowing liquid. Oh wow, yeah right. And instead
- 0:44Speaker 2: of countless individual particles bouncing around doing all the work,
- 0:48Speaker 2: that liquid acts as a single giant, synchronized artificial atom
- 0:53Speaker 2: spanning the entire chip.
- 0:55Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds like pure science fiction, but you
- 0:58Speaker 3: are actually describing a state of matter that physicists have
- 1:01Speaker 3: been wrestling with for gosh, almost a century now. We're
- 1:04Speaker 3: talking about a Bose Einstein condensate or a BEC. It's
- 1:09Speaker 3: the state where that fundamental rules of the universe seem
- 1:11Speaker 3: to just give up their usual boundaries, you.
- 1:13Speaker 2: Know, right, Because normally we think of matter as like
- 1:16Speaker 2: discrete things, right, electron over here, a proton over.
- 1:19Speaker 3: There, exactly. But when you create a BEC, those individual
- 1:22Speaker 3: identities just dissolve completely.
- 1:24Speaker 2: I've always found the whole concept of a bec fascinating
- 1:28Speaker 2: because it really forces us to confront way of particle duality.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Usually particles act like little billiard balls, but if you
- 1:36Speaker 2: get them cold enough, they start acting more like waves. Well,
- 1:39Speaker 2: they blur together, right, they blur together until you literally
- 1:42Speaker 2: cannot tell one particle from another. But the problem is, historically,
- 1:48Speaker 2: forcing matter to do this has been an absolute nightmare
- 1:51Speaker 2: of engineering, like trying to build a delicate house of
- 1:54Speaker 2: cards inside a tornado.
- 1:56Speaker 3: That's a perfect way to put it, honestly, because to
- 1:58Speaker 3: strip away those individual idea identities, you have to rob
- 2:01Speaker 3: the system of almost all its thermal energy, which is hard,
- 2:04Speaker 3: incredibly hard. I mean, traditionally that meant trapping a cloud
- 2:08Speaker 3: of atoms inside these massive, complex vacuum chambers, using a
- 2:12Speaker 3: raise of custom lasers to hold them in place, and
- 2:15Speaker 3: then chilling them down to roughly one hundred nanokelvin.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Which, just to put that in perspective for you, listening
- 2:21Speaker 2: is mere billions of a degree above absolute zero. I mean,
- 2:24Speaker 2: it is significantly colder than the deepest, darkest void of
- 2:28Speaker 2: outer space.
- 2:28Speaker 3: Yeah, it's truly extreme.
- 2:29Speaker 2: You're talking about facilities that take up entire rooms just
- 2:33Speaker 2: to make a microscopic puddle of this quantum fluid for
- 2:37Speaker 2: what a few.
- 2:37Speaker 3: Seconds exactly, And that extreme fragility is why this recent
- 2:42Speaker 3: breakthrough out of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory is sending
- 2:45Speaker 3: shockwaves through the physics community.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Oh absolutely.
- 2:49Speaker 3: On August eleventh, twenty twenty six, researchers detailed how they
- 2:52Speaker 3: took this highly sensitive quantum phenomenon out of those isolated
- 2:56Speaker 3: room sized vacuums and they successfully created it inside a
- 3:00Speaker 3: solid semiconductor chip that is only a few atoms.
- 3:03Speaker 2: Thick, which is like finally having a calm, sturdy table
- 3:06Speaker 2: to build that house of cards one. So our mission
- 3:09Speaker 2: today is to figure out how they achieve the impossible.
- 3:12Speaker 2: We're going to explore the bizarre microscopic building blocks they
- 3:15Speaker 2: used instead of atoms, how they completely re engineered the
- 3:18Speaker 2: physical environment to make this quantum fluid stable, and how
- 3:21Speaker 2: they managed to give this fluid a switchable personality.
- 3:24Speaker 3: Basically, which is the coolest part.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Yeah, it is wild, and ultimately we'll see why putting
- 3:28Speaker 2: a quantum fluid onto a standard computer chip fundamentally changes
- 3:32Speaker 2: the timeline for future technology. So let's start with the
- 3:36Speaker 2: building blocks.
- 3:37Speaker 3: Right, because to appreciate the mechanics of what the Berkeley
- 3:39Speaker 3: team actually did, you can't easily use whole bulky atoms
- 3:44Speaker 3: like rubidium or helium.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Which is what those giant vacuum chambers use.
- 3:48Speaker 3: Right exactly. Instead, if you want this in a solid chip,
- 3:51Speaker 3: you have to use a composite particle that's native to
- 3:55Speaker 3: the semiconductor material itself. So they use something called an excitant.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Okay, let's slow down and look at the environment where
- 4:02Speaker 2: an excitement lives. Because the semiconductor isn't just empty space, no,
- 4:05Speaker 2: not at all. It's this densely packed crystal lattice. If
- 4:10Speaker 2: we zoom all the way in on the material inside,
- 4:12Speaker 2: you know, computer chip or a solar cell, we have
- 4:15Speaker 2: a rigid grid of atoms and all the electrons are
- 4:18Speaker 2: normally locked into their designated orbits.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Yeah, the material is effectively at rest. But if you
- 4:23Speaker 3: inject energy into that microscopic landscape. Let's say you shine
- 4:27Speaker 3: a specific wavelength of light onto the semiconductor, you can
- 4:30Speaker 3: hit one of those locked in electrons.
- 4:32Speaker 2: And it gets hyperactive, right exactly.
- 4:34Speaker 3: It absorbs the pocon's energy. It gets super hyperactive and
- 4:38Speaker 3: physically jumps out of its usual comfortable energy level into
- 4:41Speaker 3: a higher one where it's free to roam around the crystal.
- 4:44Speaker 2: And because it jumped out, it leaves behind an empty
- 4:47Speaker 2: parking spot basically in the atomic grid.
- 4:50Speaker 3: Yes, that empty parking spot is a foundational concept in
- 4:54Speaker 3: solid state physics. We call it a hole a hole, right,
- 4:58Speaker 3: and it's far more than just empty space. Because an
- 5:01Speaker 3: electron carries a negative charge, the space that just vacated
- 5:05Speaker 3: is now missing a negative charge.
- 5:07Speaker 2: So relative to the rest of the neutral crystal lattice,
- 5:11Speaker 2: that empty space effectively acts as a positive charge exactly.
- 5:15Speaker 3: You know.
- 5:15Speaker 2: I always think of it like an air bubble and
- 5:17Speaker 2: a carpenter's level. The bubble isn't really a distinct physical object, right,
- 5:21Speaker 2: It's just the absence of liquid.
- 5:23Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good analogy, yep.
- 5:25Speaker 2: But as you tilt the level, the bubble moves around
- 5:28Speaker 2: and interacts with its environment as if it were a
- 5:30Speaker 2: solid independent thing.
- 5:32Speaker 3: That is a highly accurate way to visualize it. The
- 5:34Speaker 3: hole can move through the lattice as neighboring electrons slide
- 5:37Speaker 3: over to fill it, pushing that empty space down the line.
- 5:41Speaker 3: So now you have a negatively charged electron zipping around,
- 5:45Speaker 3: and a positively charged hole moving around as well. And
- 5:48Speaker 3: because fundamental physics dictates that opposites attract, the electron and
- 5:53Speaker 3: the hole feel this really strong electrostatic pull toward one another.
- 5:57Speaker 2: They don't just ignore each other in the crystal. They
- 5:59Speaker 2: find each other.
- 6:00Speaker 3: They absolutely do. They orbit a common center of mass,
- 6:04Speaker 3: bound together by that attraction, acting almost exactly like a
- 6:07Speaker 3: tiny artificial hydrogen atom.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Wow.
- 6:10Speaker 3: And that pairing the electron and the whole dancing around
- 6:13Speaker 3: each other is an excitant. And because an excitant is
- 6:16Speaker 3: composed of two particles that each have a half integer spin,
- 6:20Speaker 3: their combined spin becomes a whole integer, which classifies the
- 6:24Speaker 3: excitant as a boson.
- 6:25Speaker 2: Which is like the magic word for quantum physicists. It
- 6:28Speaker 2: really is, because bosons are the only types of particles
- 6:31Speaker 2: that can share the exact same quantum state. Right, if
- 6:33Speaker 2: you get enough excitance together, and you get them cold enough,
- 6:36Speaker 2: they won't clash or pump into each other.
- 6:38Speaker 3: Right, they will theoretically sync up into that single coherent
- 6:41Speaker 3: quantum fluid we mentioned earlier, the Bose Einstein condensate.
- 6:45Speaker 2: So okay, The theoretical math proved decades ago that an
- 6:50Speaker 2: excite and BC was possible. What was the roadblock the.
- 6:54Speaker 3: Physical life span of the excite in itself.
- 6:57Speaker 2: Ah.
- 6:57Speaker 3: Yeah, when you create them by shining light on them
- 7:00Speaker 3: material you are creating a highly energized, unstable state. And
- 7:04Speaker 3: nature always prefers to be lazy. You know, it wants
- 7:08Speaker 3: to return to the lowest possible energy state.
- 7:10Speaker 2: The electron wants its barking spot back.
- 7:12Speaker 3: It aggressively seeks it out. Usually within a fraction of
- 7:16Speaker 3: a nanosecond, literally a billionth of a second, the electron
- 7:19Speaker 3: loses its extra energy, falls back into the hole, and
- 7:22Speaker 3: annihilates the excitement, releasing a tiny flash of light.
- 7:25Speaker 2: Wait, so if this particle is basically a temporary dance
- 7:28Speaker 2: partner where one person's an electron and the other is
- 7:30Speaker 2: literally the absence of an electron, how do you get
- 7:33Speaker 2: them to form a stable fluid?
- 7:34Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the million dollar question, because.
- 7:36Speaker 2: If the dance ends in a billionth of a second,
- 7:38Speaker 2: you don't have a fluid. I mean, you just have
- 7:40Speaker 2: a chaotic flash of sparks.
- 7:42Speaker 3: You have hit the exact wall that stopped physicists for years.
- 7:47Speaker 3: A billionth of a second is just not nearly enough
- 7:50Speaker 3: time for a collection of excitance to bump into each other,
- 7:54Speaker 3: share their thermal energy, cool down, and reach the collective
- 7:58Speaker 3: thermal equilibrium required to a condency. They just vanish, right,
- 8:02Speaker 3: The particles just vanished before they can even get to
- 8:04Speaker 3: know each other.
- 8:05Speaker 2: So you can't just shine a brighter laser on the
- 8:07Speaker 2: chip and hope to overwhelm the system with excitement.
- 8:10Speaker 3: Oh no, that wouldn't work.
- 8:11Speaker 2: You have to somehow stop the electron from crashing back
- 8:14Speaker 2: into the hole without breaking the attraction that keeps them
- 8:17Speaker 2: bound together. How on earth do you put a physical
- 8:20Speaker 2: barrier between an electron and a microscopic hole in a crystal.
- 8:24Speaker 3: You have to fundamentally re engineer the crystal itself. So
- 8:27Speaker 3: the Berkeley Lab team solve this by moving away from
- 8:30Speaker 3: a single chunk of semiconductor, and they built this custom heterostructure. Okay,
- 8:34Speaker 3: they took two distinct types of two dimensional semiconductor's materials
- 8:39Speaker 3: that are literally only a single atom thick and stack
- 8:42Speaker 3: them on top of each other like a microscopic sandwich,
- 8:44Speaker 3: an incredibly precise one.
- 8:46Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 8:46Speaker 3: Because the two layers are made of different elements, their
- 8:49Speaker 3: internal energy landscapes don't perfectly align. Interesting the physics of
- 8:54Speaker 3: this specific pairing creates a situation where the electron vastly
- 8:58Speaker 3: prefers the energy environment of one layer, while the positive
- 9:02Speaker 3: hole strongly prefers the energy environment of the other layer.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Okay, let me make sure I'm wrapping my head around
- 9:07Speaker 2: this mechanism. It's almost like a multi level parking garage
- 9:13Speaker 2: with a really specialized elevator.
- 9:15Speaker 3: Okay, I'm with you.
- 9:16Speaker 2: So the electron absorbs energy and goes up to the
- 9:19Speaker 2: second floor, leaving the hole on the first floor. But
- 9:22Speaker 2: because of the specific materials they chose, the electron can't
- 9:25Speaker 2: easily ride the elevator back down, so it's stuck in
- 9:28Speaker 2: the upper layer and the hole is stuck in the
- 9:30Speaker 2: lower layer.
- 9:30Speaker 3: Yes, the atomic structure of the materials creates a physical
- 9:34Speaker 3: and energetic wall between them. The electron and the hole
- 9:37Speaker 3: are physically separated by the gap between the two two
- 9:40Speaker 3: D layers. However, that gap is so incredibly thin, just
- 9:44Speaker 3: fractions of an animeter, that the electrostatic attraction between the
- 9:47Speaker 3: positive and negative charges reaches right through the barrier.
- 9:50Speaker 2: So they are forced to stay in separate lanes. But
- 9:53Speaker 2: they are so close they still bind together and move
- 9:56Speaker 2: as a single unit across.
- 9:57Speaker 3: The chip exactly physicists call a spatially indirect excitan. And
- 10:03Speaker 3: the consequence of this clever engineering is monumental because the
- 10:07Speaker 3: electron is physically blocked from easily recombining with the whole
- 10:11Speaker 3: the lifespan of the exciting skyrockets.
- 10:14Speaker 2: Wow.
- 10:14Speaker 3: More importantly, this stacked structure alters what we call the
- 10:18Speaker 3: ground state.
- 10:19Speaker 2: Of the system, the lazy state.
- 10:21Speaker 3: Right in a normal material, the lowest, laziest energy state,
- 10:25Speaker 3: the ground state has zero.
- 10:26Speaker 2: Exciting because you have to add energy to make them.
- 10:29Speaker 3: But in this artificially engineered lattice, under the right conditions,
- 10:32Speaker 3: the lowest energy state actually contains these permanent indirect excitans.
- 10:36Speaker 2: Oh that's wild.
- 10:37Speaker 3: They become a natural, stable feature of the material's resting state.
- 10:41Speaker 3: They don't vanish in a billionth of a second, which
- 10:44Speaker 3: gives them plenty of time to interact, cool down, and
- 10:47Speaker 3: seamlessly merge into a stable Bose Einstein condensate.
- 10:51Speaker 2: That is just an elegant piece of manipulation. I mean,
- 10:53Speaker 2: they didn't fight the short lifespan, They just bypassed it
- 10:56Speaker 2: by changing the architectural rules of the environment itself.
- 11:00Speaker 3: It really is brilliant.
- 11:00Speaker 2: But you know, bridging that gap brings up the temperature
- 11:04Speaker 2: milestone of this which is a massive part of why
- 11:06Speaker 2: this is such a huge breakthrough. Once they engineer this
- 11:10Speaker 2: stable excite and fluid, they realized it remained coherent up
- 11:13Speaker 2: to about two kelvin.
- 11:15Speaker 3: Which represents a staggering paradigm shift for quantum physics.
- 11:19Speaker 2: Okay, I have to push back a little here because
- 11:20Speaker 2: to anyone listening, two kelvin is roughly minus four hundred
- 11:24Speaker 2: and fifty six degrees fahrenheit. Yeah, that still sounds like
- 11:28Speaker 2: an incredibly prohibitive, unimaginably freezing environment. You know why is
- 11:33Speaker 2: the scientific community popping champagne over to kelvin?
- 11:37Speaker 3: The celebration is really about the practical infrastructure required to
- 11:40Speaker 3: reach that temperature. When we talked about the traditional atomic
- 11:43Speaker 3: BECs earlier, they required temperatures around one hundred nanokelvin. Two
- 11:47Speaker 3: kelvin is approximately twenty million times warmer.
- 11:50Speaker 2: Than that twenty million times warmer.
- 11:51Speaker 3: Yeah. To get to nanokelvin temperatures, you need lasers meticulously
- 11:56Speaker 3: tuned to slow down individual atoms, massive magnetic coils to
- 12:00Speaker 3: trap them, and ultra high vacuums to prevent any ambient
- 12:04Speaker 3: molecules from destroying the condency.
- 12:06Speaker 2: Just massive setups.
- 12:08Speaker 3: Only highly specialized, really well funded national labs can maintain
- 12:12Speaker 3: that kind of equipment.
- 12:13Speaker 2: It's basically the spoke.
- 12:14Speaker 3: Physics exactly, but two calvin crosses a critical threshold that
- 12:18Speaker 3: is a temperature you can achieve using liquid helium in
- 12:21Speaker 3: a standard piece of laboratory equipment called a cryostat. Okay,
- 12:24Speaker 3: and liquid helium cooling is a ubiquitous technology. It's used
- 12:28Speaker 3: in MRI machines at hospitals, It's used in thousands of
- 12:31Speaker 3: university chemistry and physics labs all around the world.
- 12:34Speaker 2: So by moving the required temperature from one hundred nanocalvin
- 12:37Speaker 2: up to two kelvin, you take this phenomenon out of
- 12:40Speaker 2: the exclusive realm of room sized quantum physics labs and
- 12:44Speaker 2: you drop it right onto the work bench of thousands
- 12:46Speaker 2: of materials scientists and electrical engineers. You make a quantum
- 12:49Speaker 2: fluid accessible.
- 12:51Speaker 3: And accessibility accelerates discovery. Because the fluid was sitting stably
- 12:56Speaker 3: inside a microchip inside a standard cryostat, the Berkeley team,
- 13:00Speaker 3: led by principal investigator Feng Wang could finally start poking
- 13:04Speaker 3: and prodding at it in ways that are just impossible
- 13:07Speaker 3: in a fragile vacuum crap, right, and that is when
- 13:10Speaker 3: they discovered this fluid possesses a highly complex hidden internal structure.
- 13:15Speaker 2: Okay, so to see this hidden structure, they used a
- 13:18Speaker 2: technique called magneto optical spectroscopy. But before we get into
- 13:22Speaker 2: what they found, let's establish how they actually interact with
- 13:24Speaker 2: the fluid, Like, how are they looking at it?
- 13:26Speaker 3: Well, magneto optical spectroscopy sounds intimidating, but the core mechanism
- 13:30Speaker 3: is quite logical. Optical means they are interacting with the
- 13:33Speaker 3: chip using light.
- 13:34Speaker 2: Okay.
- 13:35Speaker 3: They shine a highly specific tunable laser onto the semiconductor.
- 13:39Speaker 3: Because excitants are literally born from light and a mid light.
- 13:42Speaker 3: When they decay, they are incredibly sensitive to the laser.
- 13:45Speaker 2: Makes sense.
- 13:46Speaker 3: By analyzing exactly which colors of light the chip absorbs
- 13:49Speaker 3: or reflects, the researchers can read the precise energy state
- 13:52Speaker 3: and density of the quantum fluid.
- 13:54Speaker 2: So the light basically acts as a probe. But it's
- 13:57Speaker 2: not just a passive observation, right, Because the hip is
- 14:00Speaker 2: wired up. They are applying electrical voltages while they shine
- 14:03Speaker 2: the light.
- 14:04Speaker 3: Yes, and the electrical control is what makes this a
- 14:06Speaker 3: true device rather than just a passive experiment. The chip
- 14:10Speaker 3: has electrical gates built right into it. By simply turning
- 14:14Speaker 3: a dial and changing the voltage on those gates, the
- 14:17Speaker 3: team can inject more electrons or holes into the active layers.
- 14:22Speaker 3: They have direct real time control over the density of
- 14:26Speaker 3: the excitments.
- 14:26Speaker 2: So they can dial the crowd size of the quantum
- 14:29Speaker 2: fluid up or down with a voltage knob, like using
- 14:32Speaker 2: a dimmer switch on the light bulb.
- 14:33Speaker 3: Exactly a lever of control that researchers working with atomic
- 14:37Speaker 3: BECs and vacuums would absolutely envy, for sure. But the
- 14:40Speaker 3: magneto part of magneto optical spectroscopy is where the internal
- 14:44Speaker 3: structure really reveals itself. They apply a strong magnetic field
- 14:48Speaker 3: perpendicular to the chip.
- 14:50Speaker 2: Okay, but to understand why the magnetic field does anything
- 14:53Speaker 2: at all, we have to look closely at the properties
- 14:55Speaker 2: of the electrons and holes in these specific twty crystals.
- 14:58Speaker 3: Right.
- 14:58Speaker 2: Because normally we just think of particles is having a
- 15:01Speaker 2: charge and maybe a spin like a tiny internal compass.
- 15:05Speaker 2: Pointing either up or down.
- 15:06Speaker 3: Spin is critical, But in these ultra thin hexagonal crystal lattices,
- 15:12Speaker 3: the particles have an additional property known as a valley
- 15:15Speaker 3: degree of freedom.
- 15:16Speaker 2: Now, this is where things get slightly abstract. What is
- 15:20Speaker 2: a valley in a crystal? It's not a physical dent
- 15:23Speaker 2: in the surface, right, It is not a physical dent.
- 15:25Speaker 3: No, It refers to the momentum space of the crystal.
- 15:28Speaker 3: As an electron moves through the repeating grid of atoms,
- 15:32Speaker 3: the energy landscape it experiences isn't completely flat. It undulates.
- 15:36Speaker 2: Okay, there are.
- 15:37Speaker 3: Specific energy minimums, local dips in the energy band structure
- 15:41Speaker 3: where the electron naturally prefers to settle. These dips are
- 15:44Speaker 3: the valleys.
- 15:45Speaker 2: So if the electron is a ball rolling across a
- 15:48Speaker 2: slightly bumpy terrain, it's naturally going to settle into one
- 15:51Speaker 2: of the grooves. And in these specific materials, there are
- 15:54Speaker 2: two distinct, equivalent grooves that can settle into.
- 15:57Speaker 3: Precisely the particle can exis in valley K or valley
- 16:02Speaker 3: K prime. Now, when you combine the particle's spin, which
- 16:06Speaker 3: can be up or down, with this specific valley it occupies,
- 16:09Speaker 3: you get unique combinations. The physics community refers to these
- 16:13Speaker 3: specific combinations of spin and valley as.
- 16:16Speaker 2: Different flavors, Meaning an excitement isn't just a generic particle,
- 16:19Speaker 2: its specific internal alignment, its spin, and its valley position
- 16:25Speaker 2: gives it a distinct flavor exactly.
- 16:28Speaker 3: And what Fang Wang's team observed through their optical probing
- 16:31Speaker 3: was that their Bose Einstein condensate wasn't just a uniform,
- 16:34Speaker 3: featureless fluid of a single flavor.
- 16:36Speaker 2: Wow.
- 16:37Speaker 3: It naturally settled into a highly ordered state containing two
- 16:40Speaker 3: distinct components. The fluid possessed a complex internal character like
- 16:45Speaker 3: a mixture of spin, valley alignment.
- 16:46Speaker 2: So it's a fluid with a structured identity. And this
- 16:48Speaker 2: is where the magnetic field comes in right. Because magnetic
- 16:50Speaker 2: field interacts with the spin of.
- 16:52Speaker 3: Particles, the magnetic field exerts a torque on both the
- 16:54Speaker 3: spin and the valley magnetic moments of the excitance. When
- 16:57Speaker 3: they ramped up the magnetic field, they slid stress to
- 17:00Speaker 3: that internal structure. What happened at a certain threshold, the
- 17:04Speaker 3: energy required to maintain the original flavor mixture became too high,
- 17:08Speaker 3: and the entire quantum fluid snapped into a new alignment.
- 17:12Speaker 2: They literally forced the excitements to flip their spins and
- 17:15Speaker 2: shift balleys.
- 17:16Speaker 3: They forced a macroscopic quantum phase transition by turning a
- 17:20Speaker 3: magnetic knob. They completely rerote the internal spin valley order
- 17:24Speaker 3: of the fluid on demand.
- 17:26Speaker 2: That is just I mean to ground this in an analogy,
- 17:29Speaker 2: Imagine looking down at a massive football stadium where every
- 17:32Speaker 2: single person in the crowd is holding up a red
- 17:35Speaker 2: flash card. Right from a distance, the stadium looks entirely red.
- 17:38Speaker 2: It's a single uniform state. But the moment you flip
- 17:42Speaker 2: a magnetic switch, every person in the stadium instantly flips
- 17:45Speaker 2: their card to blue. Exactly, you haven't changed the physical
- 17:48Speaker 2: substance of the crowd, like they're all still in their seats.
- 17:50Speaker 2: It hasn't turned from syrup to glass. But you have
- 17:53Speaker 2: fundamentally instantly altered the internal structural state of the entire system.
- 17:58Speaker 3: That is a phenomenal way to visualize it. You are
- 18:00Speaker 3: commanding a macroscopic quantum state to reorganize its internal.
- 18:05Speaker 2: Architecture, which is mind blowing.
- 18:06Speaker 3: Prior to this, researchers couldn't definitively prove that excitance had
- 18:11Speaker 3: condensed in these structures, let alone observe or manipulate their
- 18:14Speaker 3: internal order like that. The Berkeley team didn't just create
- 18:18Speaker 3: the fluid, They found a way to steer.
- 18:20Speaker 2: It and the leap from abstract chalkboard physics to actual
- 18:25Speaker 2: tunable engineering here is profound. I mean, if you can
- 18:29Speaker 2: electrically control the density and magnetically flip the internal state
- 18:34Speaker 2: of a quantum fluid sitting on a solid chip, the
- 18:37Speaker 2: applications move far beyond just writing a fascinating paper. Absolutely,
- 18:41Speaker 2: where does this technology actually go?
- 18:43Speaker 3: Well, the implications branch into several major fields of physics
- 18:46Speaker 3: and engineering. Starting with optoelectronics, we established that excitants are
- 18:50Speaker 3: inherently coupled to light. Because this condensate acts as a
- 18:54Speaker 3: single coherent quantum state, it emits light coherently when the
- 18:58Speaker 3: excitans do eventually reco So.
- 19:00Speaker 2: It's essentially a blueprint for a completely new type of laser.
- 19:04Speaker 3: Lasers that operate at incredibly low power thresholds compared to
- 19:07Speaker 3: what we use today. Or consider optical switches and sensors.
- 19:10Speaker 2: Oh yeah, If the.
- 19:11Speaker 3: Internal state of the fluid can be flipped instantly and
- 19:14Speaker 3: that fluid interacts directly with light, you have the foundation
- 19:18Speaker 3: for ultra fast, highly sensitive components that translate quantum information
- 19:23Speaker 3: directly into optical signals.
- 19:26Speaker 2: Which naturally leads to how that information moves around the chip. Yeah,
- 19:29Speaker 2: because The defining characteristic of a Bose Einstein condensate is
- 19:33Speaker 2: that it can behave as a superfluid.
- 19:35Speaker 3: Yes, a true superfluid flows with zero viscosity, meaning it
- 19:39Speaker 3: experiences absolutely no friction.
- 19:41Speaker 2: Zero friction.
- 19:43Speaker 3: Now, moving an excite and superfluid isn't exactly the same
- 19:46Speaker 3: as moving an electrical current, because excitants are electrically neutral overall,
- 19:50Speaker 3: the positive and negative charges cancel each other out. But
- 19:53Speaker 3: they do carry energy and they can carry spin or
- 19:56Speaker 3: valley information.
- 19:57Speaker 2: So if you can push a wave of this excite
- 19:59Speaker 2: and fluid from one side of a processor to the other,
- 20:02Speaker 2: it carries that information without bouncing off the atoms in
- 20:05Speaker 2: the crystal lattice. It moves without friction, meaning it doesn't
- 20:08Speaker 2: generate heat. I mean, we spend massive amounts of energy
- 20:12Speaker 2: just cooling down data centers because moving electrons through copper
- 20:17Speaker 2: creates so much resistance. A superfluid data bus would be
- 20:20Speaker 2: revolutionary completely.
- 20:22Speaker 3: And while engineers work towards those commercial applications, physicists gain
- 20:26Speaker 3: an immediate, powerful tool for quantum simulation.
- 20:30Speaker 2: Right, I didn't even think about that. Yeah.
- 20:32Speaker 3: Many of the most profound mysteries in physics, like the
- 20:35Speaker 3: mechanics of high temperature superconductors or the behavior of really
- 20:38Speaker 3: exotic particles are incredibly difficult to model on classical computers
- 20:43Speaker 3: because the quantum math scales exponentially.
- 20:46Speaker 2: But now you don't have to model it on the computer.
- 20:48Speaker 2: You literally have a physical quantum fluid sitting on a
- 20:51Speaker 2: desk that you can tune and tweak.
- 20:54Speaker 3: You can map the parameters of an unsolved physics problem
- 20:56Speaker 3: onto the tunable parameters of the excite and fluid. You
- 20:59Speaker 3: can use the chip as an analog simulator to watch
- 21:02Speaker 3: how the quantum rules play out in real time.
- 21:04Speaker 2: It's an unprecedented playground, and it is really vital to
- 21:08Speaker 2: acknowledge the scale of the effort required to build it.
- 21:11Speaker 2: This wasn't just a few people tinkering in a basement,
- 21:13Speaker 2: definitely not. It was a massive collaboration involving UC Berkeley,
- 21:17Speaker 2: the University of Texas at Austin, the National Institute from
- 21:20Speaker 2: Material Science in Japan, heavily backed by the US Department
- 21:24Speaker 2: of Energy. Pushing the absolute limits of materials. Science like
- 21:28Speaker 2: this requires a global infrastructure.
- 21:30Speaker 3: It requires a synthesis of perfect crystal growth, extreme cryogenic engineering,
- 21:36Speaker 3: and advanced optical measurement. They took one of the most
- 21:39Speaker 3: fragile states of matter in the universe and anchored it
- 21:42Speaker 3: to a solid state device.
- 21:44Speaker 2: We took a phenomenon that used to demand room sized
- 21:47Speaker 2: vacuum chambers and temperatures colder than deep space, and we
- 21:50Speaker 2: trapped it in a microscopic sandwich. We didn't just capture
- 21:53Speaker 2: a quantum fluid. We gave it a steering wheel, a transmission,
- 21:57Speaker 2: and the ability to interact with the physical world on
- 21:59Speaker 2: our turn.
- 22:00Speaker 3: It is the definitive bridge between quantum physics and tangible technology.
- 22:05Speaker 3: We now have a platform where the weirdness of quantum
- 22:07Speaker 3: mechanics can actually be harnessed as an engineering resource, which breaks.
- 22:10Speaker 2: Up a really fascinating question for the road ahead. You know,
- 22:13Speaker 2: we talked about how this team brought the operating temperature
- 22:16Speaker 2: up by a factor of twenty million, reaching two kelvin.
- 22:19Speaker 2: The Holy Grail naturally is pushing that temperature higher, perhaps
- 22:24Speaker 2: one day maintaining these macroscopic quantum states at room temperature
- 22:28Speaker 2: inside solid state chips. But w aren't you to look
- 22:30Speaker 2: beyond just the idea of laptops that don't get hot?
- 22:33Speaker 2: Oh definitely, if we can stabilize a state of matter
- 22:36Speaker 2: where millions of particles lose their individual identities and act
- 22:39Speaker 2: as a single, coherent quantum entity, and we can embed
- 22:44Speaker 2: that entity into a solid matrix. What happens when we
- 22:47Speaker 2: start scaling that up. We've spent decades building computer chips
- 22:51Speaker 2: that process information linearly right, moving distinct electrons from point
- 22:55Speaker 2: A to point B like traffic on a highway.
- 22:57Speaker 3: Yep, classical computing, but.
- 22:58Speaker 2: A quantum fluid doesn't have it experiences the entire chip simultaneously.
- 23:03Speaker 2: Imagine a future where we move away from traditional computing
- 23:06Speaker 2: entirely and instead design synthetic, macroscopic quantum materials that process
- 23:11Speaker 2: complex information inherently simply by shifting their internal quantum geometry.
- 23:15Speaker 3: It's a completely different paradigm.
- 23:16Speaker 2: We may not be looking at the next generation of microchips.
- 23:20Speaker 2: We might be looking at the earliest prototypes of materials
- 23:23Speaker 2: that fundamentally think in a language we are only just
- 23:26Speaker 2: beginning to decipher. Thank you so much for joining us
- 23:30Speaker 2: for this journey into the bleeding edge of quantum physics.
- 23:32Speaker 2: We appreciate your curiosity, your time, and as always, keep
- 23:35Speaker 2: asking the big questions.