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Episode 18 | Monday Night Rewind | Colin Bozell | Scott Kosak (GetintheStands.com) · Top Row Racing Media Monday Night Rewind

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  All right, happy Monday to everyone.
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  It's been a beautiful day here in Southwest Michigan and
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  Northwest Indiana, especially after a bumpy last week on
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  Thursday across the area. So definitely nice weather to
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  get out today. I know this week it's supposed
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  to be bumpier again on Tuesday and Wednesday, but that means as
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  we get through those, we get a little bit closer to turning
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  left and going fast. So with the Monday night Rewind
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  racing media, tonight we have another packed shows we have
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  each week. First joining us at about seven
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  O 5 will be Colin Bozell. He's fresh off of two more
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  victories in his 2026 campaign, one at Kalamazoo last Friday
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  night and the street stock, which you can also watch from
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  his view the onboard camera from Friday night.
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  And then probably tomorrow morning will be the Kalamazoo
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  full race. Got behind on that a little bit.
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  And then joining us at about 7:40 will be Scott Kozak from
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  Get in the Stands, where he'll be talking about the bridge that
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  the Thursday Night Throttle where we preview the upcoming
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  weekend as well as the storylines around the area
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  heading into what looks to be another busy and exciting
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  which includes the bar stickers. But other than that, it's
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  Monday. Buju up there's you.
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  He left from oh, he got a phone call.
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  I bet that's why you had to leave for a moment.
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  But by the ways, we have Drew Jack with the National Compact
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  and I'm sure I'm forgetting one or two other things.
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  And then of course, we have Buju with the Bullring Chronicles.
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  I forgot the I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I interrupted my own
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  introduction there, but you forgot the new Crown Victoria
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  series there. 00 royal or not royal pursue what would the the
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  and I don't remember and we. I honestly don't even remember
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  either the The Great American Pursuit.
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  Series player can pursue yeah, the crown big series that he has
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  coming on. So I, well, and then he has one
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  over in New York. So I, I forget what that one's
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  called too, but I think that's Northeast national compact,
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  northeast or something like that.
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  Then. And then of course, Buju, you've
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  been part time announcer at the new Paris Speedway and you'll
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  soon be hosting your own podcast every other week on YouTube and
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  obviously me, owner of Top Row Racing Media.
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  So how are we all doing on a Monday?
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  Go ahead, Andrew, you have more to say than I do.
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  I'm pretty, I'm doing pretty good.
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  It was a very busy weekend. I'm a little sleepy, but we're
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  going to try and bring some energy to the show tonight.
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  I had a double header this weekend, like you said.
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  I was announcing at New Paris again on Saturday.
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  That was very fun. Nice quick show at New Paris
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  once again. A beautiful Saturday that was,
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  that's for sure. You know, I had a a great race
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  at I-96 Speedway with the Midwest compacts.
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  We'll talk about that when our guests are done, but also a
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  shout out to both the Russell's M40 Speedway and Hartford Motor
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  Speedway where I was at both put on great shows and you know,
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  Hartford, the night of destructions, they had about 70
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  competitors. The stands were packed.
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  A lot of times, you know when you do 3 or 4, the stands aren't
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  as full as you do one or two. But I'll tell you that was
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  pretty packed at Hartford Speedway.
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  Congratulations to Tim and Leah and their entire team.
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  It's a lot of fun on Friday and Saturday.
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  I also want to give a shout out real quick to New Paris's
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  shirts. I finally bought one Saturday.
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  Great merch at New Paris. No, no free ads.
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  I know. I'm sorry Louis, but.
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  Very merch down in new Paris. We're good with new Paris.
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  Advertise all you want, but is that their 2026 shirt if I
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  remember. I believe so.
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  I'm not sure. I just, I just like it so much.
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  Yeah, I didn't get that one yet. I have to get that.
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  Oh no, that's from last year. But I I still need to get that
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  one. I need to.
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  That's a good reminder. But they do have really nice
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  shirts there, so. I assume, I assume Andy designs
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  them just like she does the posters and does a very fine
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  job. So yeah, another compliment to
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  new pairs for me is great merch. Well, and the food too, I mean,
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  they, they're burgers. They have secret sauce that they
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  do with that. And Tracy won't tell me yet, but
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  I, I was. I was talking, I was talking
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  about on the microphone this week.
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  I don't. Do they have the jumbo hot dogs
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  every week or was that just a this week thing?
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  Because, man, that was that was a good dog.
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  Two weeks in a row now that they've had the jumbo hot dogs.
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  That was a good dog. I do.
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  Oh, go ahead, Drew. Before we bring out some guests,
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  let's click like and share this and get it out.
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  I know it's on the national compact page, top row racing
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  media page. Let's have we got some really
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  nice guests tonight. Colin Wozell will let you get on
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  that. I'm excited about that.
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  That kids been on fire. Oh yeah, well, that's exactly
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  what I was just getting ready to do, is do a reminder for likes,
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  you know, likes and shares and all the things I know.
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  Sorry I got distracted. I've been GoPro support all day.
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  Has kind of been a best friend of mine, sometimes irritatingly
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  and other times and good. But I had two cameras fry up on
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  me over the weekend, one at Kalamazoo, but at least I got
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  most of it. It was with the Super Modified.
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  So we have all but two laps, two or three laps from that, from
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  the Super Modified, but his camera is kaput.
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  That's number 14. So our IP to Camera 14 and then
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  the one that actually Colin Bozell has done really well with
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  in the past and Scott LCU camera #1 which is other people's
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  enemy, in fact majority of the world's enemy.
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  Any time I had camera one, nobody wanted it.
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  But Colin always took on the challenge and won a couple races
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  with it last year. That one bit the dust over at
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  New or at Galesburg so that they're both getting replaced.
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  I want to send a shout out to Tracy Blanchard.
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  She helped with some of the 'cause I was hesitant and she
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  did it anyway. So she said you do a lot for us
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  and so definitely want to support and all that.
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  So that helped with some of it. So, and I know other people said
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  do no donations. I just, I never get into that.
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  It's like, you know, I, I never asked for that.
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  It's just show up, do my job do anything I'm supposed to do and
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  hopefully it works. But but yeah.
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  So we did lose the footage on camera number one.
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  That's how bad it was that disk everything is is pretty put.
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  So feel bad for Keith Adams. I was Colin had this a few weeks
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  ago with his limited late or not limited late model.
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  But with the late model, we lost like the last couple, a lapse on
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  it, which I always hate when that happens.
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  But sometimes I can't control the technology.
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  So if you see me looking to the side, that's because I've been
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  dealing with GoPro support for now 7 hours.
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  So we're trying to get everything processed.
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  But other than that, if we're all ready, I know Colin's right
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  in the staging area. All right, so we're going to
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  bring on Colin Bozell, who again added his eighth and 9th feature
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  win this past weekend. 1st at Callum is you in the Street
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  stock and then at Galesburg in the Street stock so we can sweep
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  in the Street stock. So again, Colin, how are you
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  doing tonight? Doing good.
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  How are you pals doing? Great, thanks for asking and
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  you've been on fire and on a roll no matter What Car you've
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  been racing lately. Yeah, it's been, it's been a
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  pretty good start to the year, I should say.
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  So do you want to talk a little bit about, you know, first, just
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  for those who may be at other tracks and don't get a chance to
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  even watch you in person or they know the name, but they don't
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  like know who you are. If you want to talk a little bit
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  about that, then we can go right into, I mean, nine wins this
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  year, which is if you want to remind how many you even had
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  last year, I think you're getting pretty close to like
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  eclipsing what you did last year.
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  I mean, it's just been such a dominant run over the last two
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  years. So first you are and then kind
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  of go into. I mean, I think it's like 6 in a
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  row right now if I was counting right. 1249 row, but 9 total,
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  yeah. So every, every race that I've
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  been in with the street stack, I've I've won so far this year,
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  I've every, every time I've competed with the car we've
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  parked in Venture Lane. So.
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  Just dominant. It's impressive.
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  And you did that last year? And is it the same car as last
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  year? Yeah, it's the same car as last
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  year. We've we ventured out a little
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  bit last year to a couple of the bigger races and we took some,
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  you know, shots and I think we had chances to win, but we just
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  got kind of caught up in some wrecks and it ended our night
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  short. But no, it's been, it's been a
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  pretty good year so far for the Street Stock and I got a new
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  late model this year. We took that out for the first
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  time ever, even driving the car and we parked out in Victory
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  Lane. That was pretty crazy.
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  And yeah, we're we definitely don't plan on slowing down.
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  We're chasing every checker we can get.
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  So how do you do this? How do you determine which car
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  you're going to race each week? I don't.
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  I just, I, I don't know it. It all boils down to Thursday or
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  Friday on which one I want to put in the trailer, and that's
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  the one we take. So I'm pretty dominant on the
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  street stack at Galesburg just because we're leading the points
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  right now and I haven't won a championship in the street
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  stack, so I'm thinking I'm going to try to lock that up for this
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  year, so. So do you want to talk about
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  that because you come from a championship family?
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  I mean, just the Bozell name in itself carries a lot of weight
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  in Southwest Michigan. So you want to talk a little bit
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  about like even what got you and tracing other than probably
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  growing up around it, you know your background and and even why
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  you know why you chase checkers just like your dad, you know
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  Jeff. And then obviously you have
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  relation with Phil and everybody else.
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  So like, where does Colin fit in?
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  And all of that with the championship pedigree just.
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  A little boy standing at the fence watching them cars all my
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  life, you know, it's, you know, I, I was once underneath the
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  bleachers with Hot Wheels building race tracks with a
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  plastic spoon and you know, and then now I'm all grown up and
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  taking checkered. So it's just been a part of my
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  life for since I can remember, you know, that's all I've ever
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  known. So I definitely want to carry on
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  my family's legacy. You know, I don't, I don't want
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  it to fade off or anything like that.
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  So and the championships last year, I probably could have
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  locked up a championship somewhere, but I had more fun
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  bouncing around, you know, track to track and, you know, taking
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  on the challenges and we won it quite a few tracks last year in
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  the streets top just travelling around and, you know, doing our
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  thing. But I think I'm going to try to
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  lock up the one at Galesburg this year and just have fun.
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  That's all that matters is if having fun and, you know, trying
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  to keep the cars clean because as most people know, you know,
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  it's it's my racing crew is very small.
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  So we, we just do what we can with what we got and we're there
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  to, you know, win races so. So you've been talking about
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  your championship goals at Galesburg.
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  There's a lot of big St. Stock races, a lot of big late
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  Model races. What's one of those races that
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  you would like to win before you retire when you're if it's the
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  Ravers Rumble or the new Paris Czech flagger boy?
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  I mean, there's there's a lot of races that I would like to win
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  and there will be a time to where I'll have a chance to win
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  one of those races. So but I want to win a clash.
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  I've won the Raver Rumble. I'd like to take another shot at
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  that this year again with the Street Stock.
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  I definitely want to, you know, my, I think I want to win and
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  two cars in one night. That would be awesome.
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  Rather it's a big show or small show, you know, just get out of
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  one car after parking it and getting another and do it.
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  I think that would be pretty cool.
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  So that's another goal of mine. And you could talk a little bit
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  about maybe 3 cars in one night, you know, maybe not right at the
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  beginning of the season, but I know at the beginning you're
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  kind of talk about one night you might have all three there.
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  So and and wasn't someone kind of looking into whether that's
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  been done or not? Yeah, I don't know if that has
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  been done. If it has, kudos to that person
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  that did it. But that's definitely a bucket
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  list because I do have 3 hot rods and I don't have enough
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  trucks or trailers to pull all three, but I can sure I can pull
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  a posse together to make something happen.
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  And yeah, you never know what track it might be at or, you
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  know, I mean, it's obviously got to be a track that runs the late
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  model division, but it's definitely a goal to park all
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  three in one night. That'd be pretty cool.
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  Sorry, just one real quick and I'll slip it over to you, but
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  back off on what Colin was saying.
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  He must have it in the bloodline because Uncle Andy did that a
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  long time ago. I don't know if he won for your
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  four or three races, but he did it and they ran double features
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  and he tried attempted to run every feature in the front wheel
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  drives the late models and they want to say the Street Stocks
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  and maybe the Sportsman's at the time.
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  So that's quite the goal and you'll be very tired that day.
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  Sorry, Buju, I'll kick you back over to you.
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  No. You're all good.
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  We're just going circling back to, we were talking about tracks
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  and stuff like that. What are some tracks maybe that
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  you haven't ran yet, that you have circled that you're looking
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  forward to getting to or maybe, yeah, soon, maybe this year or
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  in the near future? Well, I ran pretty much every
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  local track around here. You know, even in the Indiana,
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  I've heard, you know, some good things about Shady Bowl.
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  I mean just how it's so racy. I want to take the late model
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  down there and try it. I've never ran at Berlin.
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  I don't know What Car I would take there.
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  There's you know, there's a handful of tracks.
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  I did really want to go to that Ken Ross track and try that out.
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  But like I said, my team small, you know, funding short.
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  So we just do what we can, when we can, and we go from there.
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  Are you going to talk a little bit about, you know, for
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  especially for fans who don't know, like what does it take?
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  And you don't have to give specific, you know, numbers by
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  the way, But in general, like what does it take to be,
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  especially at the level you are right now competing?
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  You know, the the sponsorships, which I know are there's not as
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  many with your car, but you know, the sponsorships, the cost
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  like things that you have to factor in as you make these
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  trips to even to Kalamazoo, which is just around the corner,
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  or to Corrigan, which may be a little bit further around the
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  corner. Like what does it take to run a
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  competitive St. stock that's competing for either first or at
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  least the top of this of the board?
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  Well, first of all, I just want to give a big thanks to Amsoil.
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  Damn net. He's got the best products ever
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  and he, you know, supplies all our fluids and I couldn't do it
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  without him. But as far as like funding goes
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  for, you know, traveling around buying tires and stuff like
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  that. I mean, we get a little bit of
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  money in the beginning of the year by, you know, friends and
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  what not that we get on the car, but other than that throughout
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  the year, it's all funded out of my pocket.
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  So and it's not cheap. You know, there's, there's times
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  to where we go and you know, we spend 700 to make 700, but at
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  the end of the day, you know, it's we're not there to worry
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  about money. We're there to race, you know,
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  so I mean, there's been times where I've spent my last $20 to
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  get there and raced on old tires and came home with 800 bucks.
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  So you know, we, we just do what we can.
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  You know, I mean, we've been wanting to get up to Owosso and
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  a couple of the other bigger facilities to race this year.
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  We just, we want to get our point cushion a little bit
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  further than what it is over at Galesburg before we take a night
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  off to where we're safe, you know, to take a night and come
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  back following weekend and still be in a good position.
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  So, but yeah, it's, it's not easy.
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  It's not for the week, that's for sure.
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  So. Well, I think sometimes, and I
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  ask that just because, you know, we've had other drivers kind of
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  explain that to, you know, for their kind of car, just because
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  sometimes you will see fans, of course, say, well, how come that
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  driver is not there? Why is that driver not there?
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  Why is there this or why is there that?
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  And it's as you just said, like sometimes you're, you're
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  spending your your last dollars or just you get to the track
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  hoping, you know, that you come out ahead, right?
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  Or at least come out with something, you know, maybe more
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  at least 20 bucks back, right? Like I sometimes think like fans
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  and even sometimes drivers when they want someone to be there,
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  it's like, well, it was a challenge for you to get here
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  too. So, you know, like that costs
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  are not cheap, especially when you're running a competitive up
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  in the front St. stock that all so you don't have time to tear
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  up, you know, you know, do you want to talk a little bit about
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  not only with this cost savings, but the one thing that you do is
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  you race very clean. I mean, watching you go, you're
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  like a silent assassin sometimes in a way, because you'll be in
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  the middle of a pack and next thing you know, there you are,
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  you know, and and there's not really a scratch on you.
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  And so like, not only cost savings, because as you said,
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  funding is hard to come by, but at the same time, like you're
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  fixing your car if there's something that happens.
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  So do you want to talk a little bit about your race strategy and
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  how you're able to be so lethal on the track, but doing it in a
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  way where you're not pushing people out of the way, you're
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  not bumping them out of the way, you're just doing your thing?
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  So I mean it all, it all boils down to focus, You know, I, I
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  don't know. I mean, it's, it's all in my
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  head, like I'm never racing on the back bumper that's right in
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  front of me. And I'm always watching what,
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  you know, the front cars are doing ahead of me.
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  And, you know, I know how these cars react if, if there's too
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  much wheel turn to the left or there's too much wheel to the,
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  you know, turn to the right when they're trying to overcorrect, I
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  know which way they're going to go.
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  It's, you know, you just got to stay focused.
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  And I'm honestly just blessed that all the, you know, kamikaze
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  moves that I've ever made, I made it out OK, you know?
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  There's been a couple times to where, you know, I climbed the
• 20:19
  wall at Kilms, the Speedway. I did it twice this year or did
• 20:23
  it this year in the late model and did it last year in the
• 20:25
  street stock, you know, and it's that's just, it's like gambling,
• 20:29
  man. You got to hope to God that it's
• 20:33
  the right play and hope to God that you come out OK.
• 20:36
  So, but you just got to stay focused, pay attention to what's
• 20:39
  going on in front of you. You know, they give race cars a
• 20:43
  brake pedal for a reason. Sometimes you ain't got to
• 20:45
  throttle all the way through a wreck.
• 20:46
  And if you just, you know, slow down a little bit, you come out
• 20:49
  OK, you know, so. Well, in that Highline that you
• 20:53
  run, right, we were talking before we got on the show of
• 20:57
  how, and I've said this to you even last year, just how
• 20:59
  impressive you know, it has been to watch you run that Highline.
• 21:04
  And you've LED a lot of races with that Highline and you've
• 21:07
  been one of the only cars consistently run that Highline
• 21:11
  and stay high. I mean, almost the entire race
• 21:13
  you're you're up high. So you know, how does that work
• 21:16
  either with like your car set up, you know, where others throw
• 21:19
  fits as soon as they go up top, yours is like, I'm happy up
• 21:21
  here, you know. So what does it take to that and
• 21:23
  why? Why the Highline?
• 21:25
  A lot of that has to do with the tires this year.
• 21:28
  You know, they're, they haven't been really good for holding
• 21:31
  their stagger points. And I've always been taught at
• 21:36
  Kilamazoo that if your car gets tight on the bottom, you just go
• 21:39
  up top and it'll free it up a little bit.
• 21:41
  And I've made a lot of success and the top groove over there as
• 21:47
  far as getting to the front and maintaining the front.
• 21:49
  And I've just learned the strategy on how to drive it up
• 21:52
  there. I mean, there's a couple guys,
• 21:54
  you know, Ricky Laduke can do it.
• 21:57
  You know, there's, there's a couple guys that's got it
• 21:59
  figured out. But you, you know, I've sat back
• 22:02
  and watch guys try to do it and they, they just can't do it.
• 22:05
  They can't get it done. They either wash up the track
• 22:07
  and get passed by three cars on the bottom, you know, and it's,
• 22:10
  it's all throttle control really.
• 22:11
  I mean, you could really drive it all the way in there and, and
• 22:15
  either get passed by two cars on the bottom, but by the time
• 22:18
  you're coming out, you're passing them back, you know, So
• 22:21
  there's no really hard definition of it, you know,
• 22:25
  explaining on how to do it. You just got to do it.
• 22:27
  Either you can or you can't. Well, you definitely can.
• 22:30
  That's again, that's just that's what I think has been most
• 22:33
  impressive about this run is just the especially at Kalamazoo
• 22:37
  and Galesburg. I mean, nine wins this year,
• 22:40
  which is almost or almost as many as last year, really,
• 22:45
  really close to tying. And it's just in you're doing
• 22:48
  it, running a line that just a lot of drivers have not had
• 22:51
  success duplicating. And I'm sure there are pity, you
• 22:54
  know, people watching you, you know, watching do that who
• 22:57
  think, well, if Conlin can do it, I can try to do that.
• 22:59
  And it, as you said, you've watched, you've had some of them
• 23:02
  in front of you and it's not because they're bad drivers,
• 23:05
  right? They're really great drivers,
• 23:06
  but they just, it doesn't stick for them where you it's like
• 23:10
  it's like night and you know, walk in the park.
• 23:13
  It's really incredible. Seriously.
• 23:17
  So we got a question in the sorry chat.
• 23:22
  Color of your car is red is a story behind it.
• 23:25
  Nope, I've never had a red race car and this year was the year
• 23:28
  to do it. So if anybody has any questions
• 23:32
  for Colin, drop them in the chat, either Wuju, Lewis or
• 23:34
  myself or read them. Was I cutting off Wuju?
• 23:38
  Did you have another question? How about the number?
• 23:41
  What's the inspiration behind the number?
• 23:44
  The number has always been my dad, like he's always been the
• 23:49
  11. And, you know, obviously as a
• 23:52
  young boy growing up watching your dad do crazy stuff out on
• 23:55
  the racetrack, you, you want to idle that number.
• 23:57
  And you know, I, I grew up watching my dad run that number.
• 24:02
  Johnny Foot ran that number on history stock for multiple years
• 24:05
  and actually still does run it. You know, I was actually able to
• 24:10
  just share the track with that car that I grew up watching race
• 24:13
  and dominating for the longest time all over, you know.
• 24:17
  So no, it's, it was my old man's number and I'll continue to
• 24:21
  carry it for him. So you have a lot of family
• 24:24
  legacy that races. Growing up as a kid you touched
• 24:27
  about it behind the grandstands. Other than one of your family
• 24:30
  members, what was one of the your favorite drivers growing up
• 24:33
  as a kid? That's a tough question.
• 24:41
  He was only rooting for the family.
• 24:44
  Honestly, I didn't. I rooted for them all, you know
• 24:47
  what I mean? Because they were all out there
• 24:49
  putting a show on for us to watch.
• 24:50
  So I just, I never really, I mean, my eyes were never off my
• 24:56
  dad's car, you know, I watched it every square inch of the
• 24:59
  track. You know, I never really, I
• 25:02
  mean, I've watched, I've watched them all, but not like I watched
• 25:05
  my old man's car, so. All right.
• 25:08
  We'll follow up with that question maybe a little bit
• 25:09
  easier. From your dad's era, if you
• 25:12
  could race with anybody from that era, who would you want to
• 25:14
  race with? That's another hard one.
• 25:23
  I mean, you got so many good shoes that were back in the day
• 25:28
  that were, you know, doing great things.
• 25:33
  It probably I I honestly I have no idea.
• 25:39
  I I think Todd Currier, one of your dad's old team mates, and
• 25:42
  you would be a hell of a battle at Kalamazoo Speedway.
• 25:45
  Yeah, side by side for 30 laps. Absolutely.
• 25:49
  You're you're, you got, you got that right for sure.
• 25:53
  I don't know why I forgot about him or how I even did, but he's
• 25:56
  definitely another one that I idolized growing up.
• 26:00
  So. So then for your race style,
• 26:04
  right, you watched as a kid. What are the lessons that you
• 26:08
  learned? I mean, obviously you come
• 26:10
  again, from a family dynasty that there's a lot of coaching
• 26:13
  that can happen within that shop and within that bloodline.
• 26:17
  But are there other drivers who you watch as a kid really like?
• 26:19
  I want to be race like them Other Obviously your dad stands
• 26:23
  out and he's pretty good behind the wheel too, you know?
• 26:26
  Are there others who you pull from or, or people who you look
• 26:29
  to as mentors or someone you go to for advice?
• 26:34
  I mean, in this day and age, yes, I, you know, I bounce
• 26:37
  around for advice from everybody that I can.
• 26:40
  But when I was younger, my dad was my idol on everything.
• 26:44
  So there wasn't nobody taking his spot in that position.
• 26:49
  You know, 20 years of my life was dedicated just watching him
• 26:53
  go in circles, you know, so, and as far as like learning how to
• 26:56
  do things, you know, it's, it's kind of hard not to learn when
• 27:01
  you're watching it happen every weekend of your life, you know,
• 27:04
  so throughout the summer, so. What's a favorite win for you
• 27:10
  and you watching your dad? Like what are winds that stand
• 27:13
  out to you that are meaningful or memorable or just because
• 27:17
  obviously within just between you 2, you have a lot of them,
• 27:20
  but are there any of that like really stands out to you that
• 27:23
  like, man, we needed this one or this came at a right time,
• 27:26
  whatever. It's going to probably be goofy
• 27:29
  the most, but the most meaningful win that I can think
• 27:35
  of at all was when me and my dad took the Stacker car to Hartford
• 27:39
  and we won that race and he controlled the throttle and I
• 27:44
  still, I was up top steering and he never lifted.
• 27:48
  And I'm like, you know, I'm like, you're going to roll us
• 27:51
  over if you don't hit the brake, you know, And he he had all
• 27:55
  faith in me on the steering wheel and we drove right to the
• 27:57
  front. So that was, you know, the most
• 28:00
  fun I probably ever had because I was in a race with my old man
• 28:04
  and it was, you know, we shared a victory together.
• 28:08
  So that was probably that. So it sounds like since the
• 28:11
  Stackers are being retired at Kalamazoo, maybe we need a
• 28:14
  Bozell. You know, if it fit in the
• 28:16
  schedule, Bozell reunite to crash them, you know, send them
• 28:20
  out, you know, 'cause they're never they're not coming back,
• 28:22
  right? So you can help retired the the
• 28:25
  Stacker cars. Yeah, I don't know.
• 28:28
  I I gotta say I was, I was scared shitless with him on the.
• 28:32
  On the gas pedal so. Can't blame you.
• 28:36
  Well, even that you've done night of destructions, right?
• 28:38
  You're a racer who has gone over to the night of destruction
• 28:42
  side. Not only that, but you did a
• 28:43
  rollover contest a few years ago.
• 28:45
  You've done different things. So do you even want to talk
• 28:47
  about like, you know, obviously there's a lot of racers who they
• 28:51
  hear the words night of destruction and cringe or do
• 28:54
  whatever and they just can't stand it, you know, but for you,
• 28:58
  you're getting in a car with some safety and sending it over
• 29:03
  a ramp and purposely rolling it over.
• 29:05
  Sue, do you want to talk a little bit about like that?
• 29:08
  I don't, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say it's adrenaline.
• 29:10
  Like I want you to say what it is like, what makes you go over
• 29:13
  to that night of destruction site just to go do stuff that's
• 29:16
  different? I always show up to watch and
• 29:20
  everybody's always like Colin to do it, Colin to do it.
• 29:24
  And I look at him, I'm like, you're damn right I will sign me
• 29:29
  up. So that's that's how that always
• 29:32
  happens. And you didn't you like injure a
• 29:34
  rib or something within that rollover contest and you come
• 29:37
  out a little bit banged up from it too?
• 29:39
  Yeah, I had a bruised rib on the on the left side.
• 29:42
  I flipped that Prius and it has the electric batteries in the
• 29:45
  bottom of it so it's so heavy. Yep.
• 29:47
  And when I it slammed on the ground on the side there it I
• 29:51
  bruised the rib. But we got out and we were going
• 29:54
  to do it again, but the car wouldn't start so.
• 29:58
  Yeah, I, I remember that. And I'm like, wow, I and it's
• 30:02
  good. It was a good rollover.
• 30:03
  I mean, you'd like you. I I hit it full throttle?
• 30:07
  Yeah, you did not. I think the wall is what stopped
• 30:09
  you. I don't think the car stopped
• 30:11
  itself. I think you made it all the way
• 30:12
  to the wall, but pretty close. And that was, you know, and
• 30:15
  again, I just think sometimes, right, like, you know, what
• 30:18
  makes someone leave that, you know, turning left to go do
• 30:21
  something crazy like that. So that's.
• 30:23
  I just wanted to ask that because again, there's a lot of
• 30:25
  racers who don't embrace. That's right.
• 30:28
  Like that's a whole, it's like a dirty word, but it's like, I
• 30:31
  don't know, there's a, there's a street stack racer who's pretty
• 30:33
  darn good who's out there rolling it over and doing these
• 30:35
  things. But that's cool story though, to
• 30:37
  go back to the stacker cuz I mean, you got to share that
• 30:40
  moment. Not only race against each
• 30:42
  other, but now race together. Yeah, that's, that's, that's
• 30:45
  the, the best memory I can think of as I mean, we both won at M40
• 30:51
  in the Smitty Memorial last year.
• 30:53
  I won in the street stack, he won in the late model.
• 30:55
  You know, that was awesome. We both got the same trophy.
• 30:59
  We both won at Gillsburg. He won in the late model, I won
• 31:02
  in the street stack. I mean, I'd have to go through
• 31:04
  the trophy room and look, but I, I'm pretty sure there's like
• 31:07
  four or five times that we both won at the same track on the
• 31:10
  same night. And, you know, I don't know
• 31:12
  exact what dates they are and when they were, but we got
• 31:16
  pictures and trophies to prove it.
• 31:18
  So there's a lot of memory shared with him, that's for
• 31:22
  sure. So they call your dad the master
• 31:24
  of Faster. What's your nickname?
• 31:26
  Have they given you 1 yet? I don't know, I have no idea.
• 31:32
  I So we got to work on that as what I'm hearing, because I
• 31:35
  don't I don't know that that I've heard anyone with a
• 31:37
  nickname yet for you, But I don't know, you keep winning
• 31:40
  these. It might, you know, you might be
• 31:41
  the trophy something, well, the trophy hunter or trophy hoarder
• 31:46
  or I don't know, like something because again, it's just the run
• 31:49
  that you're on. I, I don't remember this at
• 31:53
  least within the last couple years where someone's just
• 31:55
  consistently going out there first after first and not just
• 31:58
  in your doing it in multiple classes.
• 32:01
  It's not just one class, it's multiple classes.
• 32:04
  And again, that is, that's just what has been so.
• 32:07
  Impressive, but his dad says cowboy.
• 32:10
  Oh, cowboy. All right.
• 32:11
  There you go. Yeah.
• 32:13
  It's been cowboy for as long as I can remember, but.
• 32:19
  He ratted you out. So you you talk about a lot of
• 32:23
  people have superstitions or car names for their cars.
• 32:26
  Do you have Do you have names for your cars and where did
• 32:29
  those names come from? I do.
• 32:31
  My limited late model is named Shadow and my street stock is
• 32:36
  named Midnight and I haven't thought of a name for the late
• 32:41
  model yet so I haven't drove it enough to come come up with a
• 32:47
  name for it so. It just, if it just it hasn't
• 32:49
  come to you yet, when it'll be the right circumstance that that
• 32:52
  name will come to you. It will come to me, but it it
• 32:55
  took me 3 years to come up with a name for my limited late model
• 32:58
  so. And where do the names come
• 33:01
  from? Like what inspires it or where
• 33:03
  you know, what's like midnight? Where does midnight come from?
• 33:08
  It's just, it was a thought and you know, she's I got to stick
• 33:13
  her on the bumper. That's Midnight Rider.
• 33:15
  She's. Just she's just a midnight rider
• 33:17
  and shadow. It was just like, you know, now
• 33:21
  you see me, now you don't kind of thing.
• 33:23
  Oh yeah, I like that. I like the access.
• 33:27
  There's a lot of people seeing you go by, then they don't see
• 33:29
  you for a while until they're past you when you're already
• 33:32
  parked in Victory Lane. I mean, it's, I like that.
• 33:35
  That's cool. I've always wondered like, where
• 33:37
  do the names even come from? Like what's the inspiration to
• 33:40
  even like Midnight like? So that's pretty cool.
• 33:43
  Thank you for sharing that. Yep.
• 33:46
  Who wins between you and your dad in the drag race?
• 33:49
  5 laps Who wins? Well, we know Jeff doesn't lift
• 33:54
  so. Depends on what we're driving.
• 33:57
  He's got a lot more hot rods than I do so.
• 34:01
  Street stock, you both get a street stock, both set up the
• 34:04
  same whatever, right? Like.
• 34:07
  He'd probably win because he'd spin me out on lap one.
• 34:12
  He knows better. Well, and that's when it's fun,
• 34:17
  you know, watching him race, I don't get to watch him race as
• 34:19
  often now, but even when he came down to New Paris a few years
• 34:22
  ago, that was just so awesome to see the Bozell banner there.
• 34:25
  And, and so it's always, it's always fun watching him racing.
• 34:29
  And I liked his, I think it's his car last year that had the
• 34:32
  pink ribbon on it with the breast cancer or year before.
• 34:36
  But you know, obviously my mom's A2 time survivor.
• 34:39
  So anytime I see a breast cancer car, those always stick out to
• 34:41
  me too. And so he had a really awesome
• 34:43
  scheme then. I mean, a few years ago you had
• 34:46
  a black and gold car. You had different things.
• 34:48
  So what do you what goes in your head when you're like coming up
• 34:51
  with your schemes and what you want your identity to be for
• 34:54
  that year? It's always, you know, March
• 34:59
  Madness, man, It's either, you know, I'm, I've always been into
• 35:03
  black race cars, you know, the flat black gold.
• 35:06
  Gold's my favorite color because of my dad Chevelle.
• 35:10
  So it's just a, you know, and then this year I'm like, you
• 35:14
  know, I'm going to do a black on red.
• 35:16
  And then that's just how it kind of turned out.
• 35:19
  I've never done a black on red. I've had black and red
• 35:23
  lettering, you know, black cars with red lettering, but I've
• 35:25
  never done like a red body. So and just so happens now all
• 35:30
  three my cars are black and red so.
• 35:34
  Yeah, 'cause you did the same scheme for all three, right?
• 35:36
  Like I I think that's what you're saying, that they are all
• 35:39
  all the same. Yep.
• 35:40
  So the limited or the late model is all red because I just it
• 35:45
  came that way when I purchased the car.
• 35:47
  So, but the limited late model is getting reworked to be black
• 35:53
  and red so. Oh, sorry.
• 35:57
  I was reading Bill's comment. I was listening to Colin and
• 36:00
  reading Bill's comment at the same time.
• 36:01
  And then you'd made it go away. I didn't get to read all of it.
• 36:06
  Always like watching. So that's Bill Russell.
• 36:07
  And you know Bill Russell, I mean, he has wild stories
• 36:09
  himself. I'll.
• 36:10
  Bring him back. There you go.
• 36:12
  I'm like, I'm listening to Colin.
• 36:13
  But then you pop that up and I'm like, I can't like you're asking
• 36:16
  me to do 2 things at one time. But so again, an endorsement
• 36:19
  from Bill Russell. I mean, you can't go wrong
• 36:22
  there. He's, you know, another, you
• 36:23
  know, legend in the area. So one thing I was thinking, as
• 36:28
  you're talking, you know, how often have you and your dad been
• 36:32
  able to share the same track at the same time?
• 36:34
  Like we were talking about skiing, we were talking about
• 36:36
  that, but then the kind of circle back around, obviously in
• 36:38
  the stacker you shared, because you're literally together, you
• 36:42
  know, by by like, how often do you guys get to share the track
• 36:45
  when you race? We've, we've shared it a couple
• 36:49
  times at one night at Galesburg, it was Rome with your Brown.
• 36:53
  I was in my street stock and he was in his late model and that
• 36:56
  was pretty fun. We were door to door for a lap
• 36:58
  or so. And then we've shared a couple
• 37:02
  times over at Galesburg in the limited late model class last
• 37:07
  year, the year before last, I can't remember what year it was,
• 37:09
  and we got the race door to door and we placed first and second.
• 37:14
  I won and he got second. And that was, you know, that was
• 37:18
  huge to me because it's like, I know that I'm holding the
• 37:22
  pedestal high for him, you know, because I'm sure he wouldn't
• 37:25
  want anybody else to beat him but his son, you know?
• 37:28
  So that was, you know, a very proud moment for myself, you
• 37:34
  know, after watching this guy create my, you know, path and
• 37:38
  life with racing and to be able to show him that I focused
• 37:43
  enough to learn something, it was it was huge to me so.
• 37:50
  So we talked about your racing career, but let's talk about you
• 37:55
  own your own business, correct? Yes I do.
• 37:57
  I own my own tree service. Yep.
• 38:00
  So you want to talk about that moderate listeners learn a
• 38:02
  little about what they you do in case they need your services
• 38:06
  anytime soon. I work hard.
• 38:11
  Well, after last week especially because you do the don't you
• 38:14
  help with like storm damage like clean?
• 38:16
  Up. Yeah, we do.
• 38:16
  We do a little bit here and there.
• 38:19
  We try not to get too involved with it.
• 38:20
  You know, we'll help our existing customers if they got
• 38:23
  storm work, but you know, we stay pretty busy with regular
• 38:26
  removals and stuff like that. And you know, we have hundreds
• 38:32
  of preferred customers that we take care of each year.
• 38:36
  They're always got something to do, you know, each year for us.
• 38:39
  So we just take care of them and move forward with it.
• 38:44
  But I got a couple really good guys that work for me and they
• 38:47
  also work on my race car. So, you know, it's not only do
• 38:51
  we work Monday through Friday together on the on the job site
• 38:54
  to make sure our bills are funded, we also grind out our
• 38:58
  time on the race car. So you know we're.
• 39:01
  Just a social media page or a website for your business that
• 39:04
  you want to. Put no, we, we just stay kind of
• 39:06
  small man I I've never really had to advertise like that or,
• 39:09
  you know, jump out there and make a, you know, like I don't
• 39:12
  have two business phones. I just do it right off my phone.
• 39:15
  You know, I mean an easy life is a good life.
• 39:19
  So, you know, the less stuff I got to deal with, the better,
• 39:23
  you know, I mean the phone rings Monday through Friday.
• 39:25
  Why, why advertise? I mean, I put pictures of our
• 39:29
  work out there, you know, when we do big jobs because just
• 39:33
  because it's cool to see the, you know, the turn around on
• 39:37
  what we did. But no, we don't, we don't have
• 39:41
  a business page or anything like that.
• 39:42
  So do you. Want to talk about who helps
• 39:46
  since we're on that topic. You talked about like the help
• 39:48
  with your car and even at the track, like you know who all's
• 39:51
  part of like your team and and helps the car.
• 39:55
  And I know you help a couple others too if you want to give
• 39:57
  them all a shout out as well. Yeah, I try to help anybody that
• 40:01
  needs it. You know, I've helped quite a
• 40:04
  bit of teams out this year, just as far as.
• 40:07
  Trying to point them in the right direction and, you know,
• 40:10
  trying to help them out a little bit.
• 40:14
  You know, I would never steer anybody wrong.
• 40:17
  I want to see everybody succeed, you know what I'm saying?
• 40:19
  Not everybody was grew up around racing.
• 40:21
  So everybody deserves a chance when they, you know, have one to
• 40:25
  give. So I just try to help where I
• 40:28
  can. You know, I mean, I can't
• 40:30
  financially give anybody money to help them, but I can give
• 40:34
  them a little bit of the knowledge that I have.
• 40:36
  And so far everybody that I've helped have came back and said
• 40:39
  that, you know it, the car's been either the best it's ever
• 40:43
  been or you know, they picked up a second and 1/2 or 1/2 a second
• 40:48
  since I've helped them. So, you know, and I got Desmond,
• 40:54
  Sean and Mike Dimmer. That's my three guys that are
• 40:58
  with me 24/7 when we're doing stuff.
• 41:00
  So. And that's about it.
• 41:04
  And that must be fun even watching like Desmond, I know
• 41:07
  when he won a few weeks ago, I think you were the first one to
• 41:10
  his car or pretty close to the first one to his car when in
• 41:13
  Victory Lane. And, and that, you know, he's
• 41:16
  been on such a, a run this year too, you know, watching him and
• 41:19
  that and the 44 front wheel drive.
• 41:22
  So I, I know I like watching him race because he, you know, he
• 41:25
  too, he just, he has a line that he keeps and, and runs and seems
• 41:29
  to be pretty successful with that line.
• 41:30
  And I know maybe doesn't always get the results that, you know,
• 41:33
  he would like or hope for, but you know, watching him win and,
• 41:36
  and then even watch him go out there and compete, I know that's
• 41:38
  been fun. So and I know he's a really
• 41:40
  close teammate with you. Yeah, I just think the front
• 41:42
  wheel drive class is getting out of hand and I think they need to
• 41:45
  go back to the old Outlaw and dot, you know, hands down.
• 41:50
  There's no breakout rule for the DOTS and there's no breakout
• 41:53
  rule for the Outlaws. You know, you're either on a
• 41:55
  Hoosier or you're on ADOT just because you're you're running
• 41:59
  ABC and you know, you got a car like Desmond's.
• 42:03
  You know, it's just just fast enough to be, you know, a top
• 42:07
  ten car in the A in the A feature.
• 42:09
  But nobody really wants to come to a track to show up and give
• 42:13
  it all they got and race for 10th every week.
• 42:17
  So I just think, you know, if they went back to it AB, you
• 42:20
  know, got rid of the ABC and went back to dot and Hoosiers,
• 42:24
  then they would, you know, minimize a lot of headaches.
• 42:28
  You know, you can obviously have rules for the dot like, you
• 42:32
  know, not having coil overs and all this other fancy jazz, you
• 42:36
  know, if you're an outlaw car, be an outlaw car.
• 42:40
  But there's just, I don't know, the split up on the front wheel
• 42:43
  drives is getting hard for guys to compete.
• 42:46
  You got some guys out there with $15,000 mortars in the front
• 42:49
  wheel drive and it's like I don't even have that into my
• 42:52
  street stock motor. So, you know, and I don't know,
• 42:56
  I just wish they would switch things up a little bit for that
• 42:59
  class because that class deserves some recognition in
• 43:03
  that so. And that's kind of some of the
• 43:06
  drawback, which we, you know, Boozoo and I have even talked
• 43:08
  about that is that, you know, sometimes you it's those B cars
• 43:12
  who are at the front of the B who could be in the A.
• 43:16
  But you know, like there you find those kind of betweeners
• 43:20
  where they're competitive enough to be the A, but they don't
• 43:22
  qualify into the A, but then they're too fast for the BS
• 43:26
  sometimes, right? Like it, you know, it's just,
• 43:28
  it's kind of one of those that, that sometimes the drawback with
• 43:31
  the ABC is just where do they cut that line that night?
• 43:34
  And, and this year they've kind of cut it different ways,
• 43:37
  different times. You know, it used to be like 16
• 43:39
  would be in the A and then this year's kind of been like 13.
• 43:42
  And it's like, well, that's putting your fringe people who
• 43:45
  could be in the A, you know, back into AB and then they're
• 43:50
  breaking out in the BS. So I I get that, that this
• 43:53
  sometimes it's how they get cut is where it gets a little like,
• 43:57
  I would say confusing, but like, well, that's an A car.
• 44:00
  Why are they in the B? But it's where they cut the line
• 44:02
  that night, right? So I definitely get what you're
• 44:04
  saying. That's why it's just easy to
• 44:06
  have them on dot tires with a shock rule and let them eat, you
• 44:10
  know, I mean, you're either, you know, a zoo stock or you're an
• 44:14
  outlaw, you know, So, and there's, it's not hard to tack
• 44:18
  them to make sure that they ain't got, you know, $15,000
• 44:22
  into a zoo stock, you know what I mean?
• 44:24
  So. Yeah, yeah.
• 44:26
  I'm sure they'll get a grip on that sooner than later, so.
• 44:30
  Yeah. So I know we're almost out of
• 44:32
  time here. So any last, you know, thoughts
• 44:34
  that you want to share? One thing I think is like the
• 44:36
  best advice you've ever received, whether it's been from
• 44:39
  your dad in racing or just in life in general, or someone who
• 44:44
  like, I have Andy Boseall once so that I've learned to try to
• 44:47
  keep, but you know, like, what's the best advice you've been
• 44:50
  given, whether it is racing related or just life related?
• 44:54
  Just, you know, never let your head get too big for your
• 44:58
  helmet, you know, always be humble and know where you came
• 45:03
  from and stand on that, you know, So I just, I can't thank
• 45:07
  my dad enough for raising me up the way I was raised.
• 45:10
  And, you know, I can't be a poor sport when you lose because
• 45:15
  it'll happen at any given time. You know, you just got to work
• 45:18
  harder that following week to get better, to go back out there
• 45:21
  and show him like, yeah, I got second this week.
• 45:24
  But look where I'm at this week, you know?
• 45:26
  So it's all, it's all in the the mental state of mind.
• 45:30
  You just got to stay calm, collective and go from there.
• 45:34
  And I've seen that directly. I mean, I can I can attest to
• 45:38
  that's how you are because I don't I've not seen you like
• 45:41
  super fired up ever. And maybe you get fired up and I
• 45:43
  just haven't had a chance to see it yet.
• 45:45
  But you know, you're one of the drivers who I always touch base
• 45:49
  with first when I'm at the track, you know, as I make my
• 45:52
  way around, I always touch base with you.
• 45:54
  And that's something that, you know, one week when you when the
• 45:58
  late model got torn up, yours still in a pretty good mood.
• 46:02
  I mean, it's like, you know, Les models is literally torn up and
• 46:04
  it didn't like you're like, it happens, you know, just got to
• 46:08
  get it fixed and come back strong.
• 46:09
  And it's like, OK, well, that there that that's a good
• 46:12
  attitude that'll that'll keep some longevity in that racing
• 46:15
  career, right? You know, if you if you let too
• 46:18
  much get to you, it probably gets to a point where it's like,
• 46:20
  OK, time to hang up the steering wheel.
• 46:22
  But that's one thing hearing you say that it's like, I can, I can
• 46:25
  attest as an outsider who's not related to you, not blood or
• 46:29
  anything to say. You definitely are living your
• 46:31
  words because I've seen it directly.
• 46:34
  Yep, you just got to stay calm in this part because for one,
• 46:37
  you ain't getting rich doing it. And you know, there's none of us
• 46:42
  are going to NASCAR, so you just got to stay calm and you tear a
• 46:46
  race car up. Oh well, fix it.
• 46:49
  Yep, Yep. But again, the run that you're
• 46:52
  on for anyone who's missed it, I before I let you go, and I know
• 46:55
  Scott Kozak is already in the staging years, so we're about to
• 46:58
  bring him on. But if you you know, for anyone
• 47:01
  who hasn't seen it yet on the clip, you know, this is you
• 47:04
  know, you have someone who's won a championship right behind you
• 47:07
  and the street stock. And then you have another one
• 47:09
  who's, you know, pretty close to a teammate, right?
• 47:13
  I mean, you and Jeff Town or you, you guys parked next to
• 47:15
  each other or close to each other at least.
• 47:18
  And. We're cousins.
• 47:21
  Yeah, Yep. And so you know, you're holding
• 47:23
  off, right? You're holding off, you know,
• 47:26
  Jeff here and again, that, that the line you run just seems to,
• 47:31
  to work for you, although that might be the lowest you went all
• 47:34
  night, but that but he didn't, he didn't really have anything
• 47:39
  for you. I think you could have gotten 10
• 47:40
  more laps and he might have gotten close, but I, I think
• 47:43
  that was yours to have. I mean, you've just been on such
• 47:46
  a run. And then for people who then
• 47:47
  missed it at Galesburg, you know, nobody's in the shop by
• 47:51
  the way. You're by yourself so that there
• 47:54
  are more cars on the track. It's just again, you have been
• 47:58
  dominant here where you, I mean, you can see there's, you know,
• 48:02
  quite the distance and I think there's a lapped car who is
• 48:04
  behind you. Nope, that's Garrett.
• 48:06
  Oh, Garrett. Oh, OK, never my mistake.
• 48:08
  And but still, I mean, just distance.
• 48:11
  So for anyone who hasn't seen it, this is this has been what
• 48:15
  it's been all season for you. So again, it's just enjoy the
• 48:18
  run. You know, I I know they say, you
• 48:20
  know, all things come to an end at some point.
• 48:22
  So, you know, just keep enjoying it.
• 48:24
  But, you know, just know that you have a lot of people
• 48:27
  supporting you and watching you. And even for those fans who may
• 48:30
  not like you just because you're a Bozell, you know they.
• 48:33
  That's fine. They have to acknowledge though
• 48:35
  that the run that you're on this year, I mean the worst, worst if
• 48:38
  we put that in quotes is 8th place in the in the late model
• 48:42
  and then 5th place. Otherwise you're my race past
• 48:44
  stats goes first, first, first, first, first, first, first nine
• 48:48
  times. So out of 10 or 11 opportunities
• 48:51
  you've been on the track, nine of them have been first places
• 48:55
  and many of them with quite the distance between you and 2nd.
• 48:58
  So again, just kudos to you and what you're doing.
• 49:02
  Thank you guys. Appreciate that.
• 49:04
  Again, and I know you have a lot to do, cars to work on and
• 49:06
  everything. So I definitely appreciate you
• 49:08
  taking the time to come on tonight and and to give us your
• 49:12
  time to tell, you know, talk about your 2026 season and and
• 49:16
  share of course, your memories and everything.
• 49:18
  But or you will be say that again.
• 49:21
  We'll see you this Friday though, because you'll be,
• 49:24
  you're thinking maybe double duty, but at least one car will
• 49:26
  be there. Yep, we'll see.
• 49:28
  You'll find out Friday. And then Saturday you'll be back
• 49:31
  at Galesburg then since you're chasing points there.
• 49:33
  So definitely fans can see you on Saturday at Galesburg and on
• 49:37
  Friday. You just never know what's going
• 49:39
  to come out of that Bozell box. Yep, absolutely.
• 49:42
  Well, again, Colin, thank you so much again for joining us
• 49:45
  tonight. And then I know I'll see you on
• 49:47
  on Friday. So I hope you have a great rest
• 49:49
  of your week and especially with more storms.
• 49:51
  Come and be safe out there all. Right.
• 49:53
  See. You guys see you.
• 49:56
  So again, we've been talking with Colin Bozell, who again,
• 49:59
  just not to keep reiterating it, but it definitely deserves it.
• 50:02
  Nine wins so far in 2026 and 2023 had one win. 2024 at least
• 50:11
  had my race path my race past tracks, zero wins and an A
• 50:16
  feature. But he's just been on terror the
• 50:18
  last couple years. So really quick before we bring
• 50:21
  Scott on. I know he's been hanging out in
• 50:22
  the bottom there. You are watching the Monday
• 50:25
  night rewind. So again, we encourage you to
• 50:27
  like the show share it outlet. People know that you're watching
• 50:31
  and don't forget this Thursday, the Thursday Night Throttle,
• 50:34
  which now both podcasts, I think with the help of Scott, are also
• 50:38
  on Get in the stands.com. So without further ado, let's
• 50:42
  pull on Scott Kozak from getinthestands.com.
• 50:46
  So how you doing tonight, Scott? What's up guys?
• 50:49
  I'm doing well. Thank you very much for having
• 50:51
  me. Oh, you even got a nice little
• 50:54
  banner behind. You see, everyone has like a
• 50:56
  hotel though, so he but he has a nice wall behind them.
• 51:00
  But you know, has this whole set up and it's different again.
• 51:03
  It was different last week and he's changed it again.
• 51:06
  But you have race tracks behind you.
• 51:09
  So what race tracks are behind you on the wall?
• 51:10
  There's a dragon. So, so we got the I-57 Speedway.
• 51:15
  I took that picture on a on a visit there.
• 51:17
  I met the owners there. We've got Lima land over here.
• 51:21
  Wait over here. There's Lima land, I believe,
• 51:24
  down here, which you really can't see.
• 51:25
  So over this shoulder is the old Beaver Dam Raceway up in
• 51:29
  Wisconsin, which unfortunately is closed now.
• 51:32
  And then over here is actually Plymouth.
• 51:35
  So I took all those pictures I took when I was just doing my
• 51:38
  various, you know, running around, taking pictures of
• 51:41
  tracks when no one was there and, you know, just letting
• 51:45
  people know where tracks are. Yep, well, and that's where Drew
• 51:48
  will be at Plymouth here in a couple weeks on June 27th for a
• 51:52
  show with the All Star Pavement Sprints and then come back
• 51:57
  touring Sears and Monster Trucks.
• 51:58
  So. I think Kenny Wallace just raced
• 52:00
  there a few weeks ago, didn't he?
• 52:02
  Yep, not not the best outcome. He was doing well I guess, and
• 52:05
  it wasn't a great outcome from what I hear.
• 52:07
  Kenny was just at Berlin last Saturday.
• 52:10
  Yeah, that's right. I saw that too.
• 52:11
  Yep, up in your neck of the woods, Michigan.
• 52:15
  Yep, and then and I know that's Boujou's hangout too, so I know
• 52:18
  I had an audible reaction. I apologize for that.
• 52:20
  But get out the way there so people can see Plymouth.
• 52:23
  There you go. What a huge, what a huge
• 52:27
  grandstand that they have there and, and all the individual
• 52:30
  seats. I mean, you don't see that very
• 52:31
  often at at grassroots tracks. Yeah, it's a great grandstand.
• 52:36
  I agree with you. Yeah.
• 52:38
  Well, so you get a chance to travel all over the United
• 52:42
  States at all these different tracks.
• 52:44
  So OK, I apologize. I'm not getting notifications
• 52:48
  even though people know I'm on a show.
• 52:50
  That was a dinner bell. I'm getting hungry.
• 52:55
  But anyways, you get a chance to travel all over the place and go
• 52:58
  to all these different tracks. And with that you've been able
• 53:01
  to build get in the stands.com. So if not, if you want to peel
• 53:05
  the onion back a little bit and kind of how you got into racing
• 53:08
  your background with that. And then what led you to get in
• 53:11
  the stands, which I know crashers adventures who was on
• 53:15
  here? I don't I don't know if he's
• 53:16
  still on or not, but Donald, one of his hashtags that he uses for
• 53:20
  everything he posts is get in the stands.
• 53:22
  So it's at it's working. You got a lot of people using,
• 53:28
  so if you want to peel the onion back a little bit and and tell
• 53:30
  everyone who you are and why, they should get in the stands.
• 53:33
  Well, no, I appreciate it and thank you for having me on.
• 53:37
  You know, get in the stands.com is the second generation of of
• 53:41
  racetrack directories that I've owned.
• 53:43
  The original 1 was called racingin.com and I launched that
• 53:48
  2008 I want to say. So I just my roots in grassroots
• 53:54
  racing when I was a, a, a young pup, 10/11/12 years old, my
• 53:58
  father worked at pit gates at Stafford Motor Speedway in
• 54:00
  Connecticut. So I was one of those kids that
• 54:04
  the promoters hate running up and down the grandstands causing
• 54:07
  a ruckus. You know, I was, I was one of
• 54:09
  those kids and being told go sit with your father.
• 54:14
  But you know what, whatever anyway, so that, that was my,
• 54:17
  that was my initial roots in, in grassroots racing growing up in,
• 54:21
  in New England. Anyway, Fast forward in, in the
• 54:25
  early 2000s, I worked at a huge country radio station in, in
• 54:29
  Chicago, US 99, which a lot of you guys probably know.
• 54:34
  And we put NASCAR on the air and it never been on the air in
• 54:38
  Chicago before We were, we were living literally like giving
• 54:41
  them a 10% audience lift just by, by going on the air with
• 54:44
  NASCAR. And we did it for a few years.
• 54:47
  And then they promoted their, their local tracks program,
• 54:50
  right? NASCAR, what was it called?
• 54:52
  NASCAR local or no? NASCAR Home tracks was the first
• 54:54
  rendition of it. And I think it was a 2007 or
• 55:01
  2008 in Daytona 500. They put these commercials on
• 55:04
  TV. Go to nascar.com, look for your
• 55:06
  local tracks. Whatever.
• 55:07
  I did it and it took me 10 minutes to find the button that
• 55:13
  they told me to go look for. And when I did, there was only
• 55:17
  like 25 tracks listed. And I'm like, wait a second,
• 55:20
  where's Grundy County? Where's Merrillville at that
• 55:22
  time? You know, over I-30, in, in, in,
• 55:24
  in, in Indiana. And none of them were there.
• 55:28
  And there was no online portal for grassroots racing.
• 55:31
  So I was like, you know what, I'm going to build this.
• 55:34
  Because if NASCAR's telling people there's grassroots racing
• 55:37
  out there, we want you to go see it.
• 55:39
  And they're not giving everybody all the tracks.
• 55:42
  Then I'm just going to build it. So that's how racingin.com was
• 55:45
  built in O8. It launched.
• 55:48
  We did probably almost 5 million viewers or users in about nine
• 55:53
  years or 10 years. COVID hit.
• 55:56
  It was, wasn't mobile friendly. I relaunched it as get in the
• 56:00
  stands on a mobile friendly platform.
• 56:02
  It's totally free for anybody to use.
• 56:05
  They literally just go to get in the stands.com.
• 56:07
  The home screen shows a box where you enter a city, a state,
• 56:10
  a zip code. You hit search gives you all the
• 56:12
  tracks within 100 miles. And we've got track maps for
• 56:16
  every state. And you know, I was, I was
• 56:18
  pulling some statistics. We've, we've been up four years
• 56:22
  now and in the four years we've helped almost 390,000 race fans
• 56:28
  do nothing except find racing or race dates or race tracks across
• 56:33
  the United States. It's what we do.
• 56:34
  We build a bridge. I call it, I call it the Gits
• 56:37
  bridge because that's what we want to be.
• 56:40
  And, and you mentioned that there it is.
• 56:42
  There's the Gits bridge, you know, on your phone, whatever it
• 56:46
  is, it's mobile friendly. And, and you say that hashtag
• 56:48
  get in the stands. I started using that hashtag,
• 56:51
  get in the stands. Oh God, I want to save social
• 56:55
  media probably back in 2010 or 11 or 12.
• 57:00
  And I was like, hey, this is pretty catchy.
• 57:01
  So I bought the domain name and I was like, you know, and that
• 57:03
  was back when people were like, I don't know, do I want to buy
• 57:06
  it? Or, you know, so I bought the
• 57:07
  domain name. I'm like, maybe someday I'll use
• 57:09
  it. It's pretty catchy.
• 57:10
  And, you know, COVID hit and I was like, let's do it.
• 57:12
  So Long story short, we are all about helping race fans find
• 57:17
  racing where they live, where they're traveling to and
• 57:20
  through. It's that simple. 1 And I know
• 57:25
  at PRI you have a huge setup area where you connect motors
• 57:30
  and owners. And then obviously you've done
• 57:33
  live shows on your pages, you've created all these different
• 57:37
  groups that people can be a part of where some they can share
• 57:40
  places they've been or things they do.
• 57:42
  Others is more patient and not so much like posting stuff and
• 57:46
  more like engaging with what you're prompting and, and all
• 57:49
  that kind of deal. So with that, what have you
• 57:52
  found, you know, being especially at PRI with in that
• 57:56
  whole area where you're with promoters and owners pretty much
• 57:59
  all week, you know, what are some of the challenges that
• 58:02
  you're hearing or seeing from them or from fans that really
• 58:06
  helps you as you mold and continue to build?
• 58:10
  Because it's always building, right?
• 58:11
  Like it's not. Absolutely.
• 58:14
  You know, get in the stands.com. So for me, the biggest thing is
• 58:18
  actually getting, helping promoters kind of cross that
• 58:23
  bridge into the digital divide. Now, I've been doing digital
• 58:26
  marketing for 20 years, right? So I was doing it in radio.
• 58:29
  We were doing, we were building websites, you know, before
• 58:32
  people really went to websites a lot.
• 58:35
  And we started social media in, you know, 2005, 2006.
• 58:39
  And so the whole idea of, of helping promoters learn how to
• 58:44
  cross that digital divide and use it to their benefit, that's
• 58:48
  the biggest thing. And I mean, even getting race
• 58:51
  tracks to even claim their listing.
• 58:53
  So it's 100% free for any track to claim their listing again in
• 58:57
  the stands. And that literally gets them the
• 58:59
  opportunity to put up their logo, their phone number, their
• 59:03
  website, their social links. And so when somebody's searching
• 59:06
  and they're on their phone, they literally hit the call this
• 59:08
  track button or they Click to their socials.
• 59:11
  That's what the gets bridge is. It's free for every track to do.
• 59:14
  And, you know, we, we do some paid services for promote and
• 59:16
  race dates and things like that. But the number one thing is
• 59:20
  letting fans know, you know, years and years ago.
• 59:23
  And I'm trying to see if I got my copyright here.
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  It's over on my bookcase. You know, there was the the
• 59:28
  National Speedway directory, right?
• 59:29
  Everybody had that in their car, you know?
• 59:33
  Yeah, the National Speedway directory.
• 59:34
  I'm I'm just trying to think if I haven't heard.
• 59:37
  It I heard some of the Holy Bible before the ending were us
• 59:40
  all people. Hey, I'm in that group, Drew.
• 59:45
  I am too, you know, and, and Alan Brown, God rest his soul,
• 59:49
  you know, I had that for years and years.
• 59:51
  And then Tim Brown, Tim Frost took it on and, and I think the
• 59:56
  last one they, they did was 2019 maybe.
• 1:00:00
  And, and it's just like, you know what, everybody's on their
• 1:00:04
  phone nowadays, right? It's it word of mouth is not
• 1:00:06
  word of mouth anymore. It's word of thumb.
• 1:00:09
  And what I'm trying to do really is I, I say in trainings, I'm
• 1:00:14
  not a promoter, right? But I promote races constantly.
• 1:00:18
  I'm a digital marketer. And what I'm trying to help the
• 1:00:22
  industry understand is number one, there are a lot more
• 1:00:26
  Motorsports fans out there than know where tracks are, right?
• 1:00:31
  And Andrew, you've probably had this experience and I, and I
• 1:00:33
  talked about this at the, the Michigan Promoters Association
• 1:00:36
  is how many times does a promoter meet somebody in the
• 1:00:40
  public less than 10 miles from a track?
• 1:00:43
  And the person asks them to say, what are you doing?
• 1:00:45
  They say, Hey, I, I promote the racetrack out on, you know, out
• 1:00:48
  on Route 50. And they're like, what
• 1:00:50
  racetrack? You know, even though it's been
• 1:00:52
  there, they probably drive by 10 * a month or whatever.
• 1:00:55
  And they, they just don't realize it because, you know,
• 1:00:58
  people kind of drive around in their bubbles and don't really
• 1:01:01
  notice anything. And, and, and it's just one of
• 1:01:03
  those things. So every single promoter has
• 1:01:05
  those experiences all the time. And what we're trying to do is,
• 1:01:09
  is get the casual Motorsports fan who thinks Motorsports is a
• 1:01:16
  4 hour race on Saturday, one race green flag to checker and
• 1:01:21
  let them know that if they go to a grassroots track, they're
• 1:01:24
  going to see 345 classes of cars.
• 1:01:27
  They're going to see probably anywhere from 12 to 20 green
• 1:01:32
  flag to checker races. Their kids are going to be able
• 1:01:34
  to find their own Lightning McQueen and four different
• 1:01:37
  classes are racing and, and the family of four is probably going
• 1:01:42
  to spend a hundred 125 bucks and they're going to have admission,
• 1:01:44
  they're going to have food, they're going to have drinks And
• 1:01:48
  and that's like true value entertainment.
• 1:01:49
  What are they going to do? Go sit down at Chuck E Cheese
• 1:01:51
  and, and, and come out with like Pez pops or whatever after two
• 1:01:55
  hours or, or sit at Chili's and they're going to spend 150 bucks
• 1:01:59
  just on a, on a meal for an hour and that's it.
• 1:02:02
  And, and they're all probably going to be on their phones at
• 1:02:04
  the time while they're there. And that's, that's the, that's
• 1:02:08
  that true family entertainment value of grassroots racing that
• 1:02:11
  I think, I think as an industry, we all need to do a better job
• 1:02:14
  of, of letting people know, you know what, this is a hell of a
• 1:02:17
  damn good time. Why don't you come on out and
• 1:02:19
  try it? That's where I come from.
• 1:02:22
  You know, I think you're not wrong on that.
• 1:02:24
  You talk about the different entertainment venues at short
• 1:02:27
  track racing is against each other.
• 1:02:29
  But even in the Motorsports industry we're up.
• 1:02:32
  So I get so much competition with different age brackets.
• 1:02:35
  Now, like me and you are traditional race fans would love
• 1:02:38
  to be at a short track. We could probably tolerate a
• 1:02:41
  four hour show, but most fans are looking for 2 1/2 hours.
• 1:02:45
  You look at Grid Life, that was just at Judgerman this weekend.
• 1:02:50
  I saw some of the weekend passes for that.
• 1:02:52
  They were like $1200. It, it, it was sold out.
• 1:02:56
  I mean, they were near sell out. And there's what, probably 2530
• 1:03:00
  thousand people that go out there and that's you got to find
• 1:03:04
  your niche. You got to provide a, a program.
• 1:03:07
  It's easy to it's easy to get people in your venue, but it's
• 1:03:12
  hard to retain them if you don't put on a quality show.
• 1:03:18
  And Drew, that's interesting to hear you say that because it's,
• 1:03:21
  I, I, I have this discussion a lot of times with promoters and
• 1:03:24
  I'm like, how do you define a quality show?
• 1:03:28
  And I think the challenge is that what a promoter defines a
• 1:03:33
  quality show as is sometimes very different from what a
• 1:03:36
  casual Motorsports fan defines a great show as, right?
• 1:03:40
  So a lot of times I'll talk to a promoter and they're like, well,
• 1:03:43
  if I can't get 15 cars, I'm not going to run the class.
• 1:03:47
  And I'm thinking to myself, if you get a family of four who's
• 1:03:49
  never come to a track and they see 10 cars putting on a good
• 1:03:52
  race, they're going to have fun and they're going to be like,
• 1:03:55
  damn, that's cool, right? So I think there's, I think
• 1:03:59
  there's sometimes in the industry, we, we kind of get
• 1:04:02
  caught what we, what we want it to be versus what the fans are
• 1:04:08
  willing and, and, and, and, and entertained by, right.
• 1:04:12
  You know, is, is, is racing entertainment?
• 1:04:15
  Heck yeah, racing is entertaining, right?
• 1:04:20
  You got to fill the time in between the, in between the
• 1:04:22
  heats and all that stuff. Yeah, you got to fill it, do
• 1:04:24
  candy tosses. There's ways to do that
• 1:04:26
  creatively. It's a little harder to dirt
• 1:04:27
  track when you got to repack sometimes.
• 1:04:30
  But, you know, as long as you keep things moving, as long as
• 1:04:33
  you keep people engaged, yeah, I think it's I think it's a great
• 1:04:37
  thing. And and so many people would be
• 1:04:40
  absolutely surprised to the upside of how much excitement
• 1:04:44
  there is in a grassroots track. That's that's just me.
• 1:04:48
  No, absolutely. So you hit a lot of good points
• 1:04:51
  on there. Like a Hartford Speedway night
• 1:04:53
  of destruction, packed crowd went a little bit faster than
• 1:04:58
  what they wanted, so they had to buy some time for the fireworks
• 1:05:01
  and a little secret I used to announce, and I used to be OK at
• 1:05:06
  it. You're a very good announcer.
• 1:05:09
  And I don't like that there's only there's only one person
• 1:05:12
  that I'll pick a microphone up for, and that's Lee and Tim
• 1:05:14
  Dibble at Hartford Speedway. And Wayne Bond, great announcer,
• 1:05:18
  but he'll be the first one to tell you he's not an
• 1:05:20
  entertainer. He's he's an announcer and next
• 1:05:24
  thing I know, Lewis can probably attest us he's seen it.
• 1:05:26
  We had the place rocking with a dance contest and I hate
• 1:05:30
  attention. I don't like people being on me
• 1:05:32
  around me. I have like 100 kids.
• 1:05:34
  I couldn't get them off the flag stand.
• 1:05:36
  Leah came down and gave away. So we made the best out of a
• 1:05:39
  terrible situation. But that's what the the families
• 1:05:43
  will remember. Now the race fan are like, well,
• 1:05:45
  why did you why, why, why are we dancing and doing dance
• 1:05:48
  competition? Well, it was either that or sit
• 1:05:50
  in silence. And that's what a lot of track
• 1:05:52
  promoters you have to improvise. You can't just improve the one
• 1:05:55
  flag of motors. Russell's M40 Speedway big late
• 1:05:59
  model race. The traditional late model fans
• 1:06:01
  love that stuff. But if you get somebody like
• 1:06:04
  you're talking about that doesn't know the tracks that
• 1:06:05
  been there for 10 years, he drives by every day and we
• 1:06:08
  finally get him to that race, probably not coming back because
• 1:06:11
  that race took an hour and 45 minutes and they couldn't see
• 1:06:14
  the finish of it. Not the fault of the track
• 1:06:16
  drivers is the circumstance. Right.
• 1:06:18
  And, and you know, I think that that's, that's the changing
• 1:06:21
  mindset of people when we think about the heritage of grassroots
• 1:06:25
  racing, right? Grassroots racing has been
• 1:06:26
  around for 100 years and, and in some way, shape or form, right.
• 1:06:30
  And, and the people who've been promoting it successfully for so
• 1:06:35
  long had a, had a recipe that worked incredibly well, you
• 1:06:39
  know, for so many years. But you know, the, the launch
• 1:06:43
  of, you know, this, you know, mind meld thing that we all
• 1:06:47
  carry around. And, you know, I mean, I've got,
• 1:06:49
  I've got kids who are 22 and 25, people who have kids who are
• 1:06:53
  younger, who have grown, grown up on iPads.
• 1:06:55
  You know, it's, it's, it's one of those things of being able to
• 1:07:00
  kind of put yourself in the fan shoes of the new fan, not the
• 1:07:05
  other fan because you know, when, when grassroots tracks
• 1:07:09
  were packed back in the heyday, everybody loved it.
• 1:07:13
  It was the place where the community came together, right?
• 1:07:16
  That was that was the place. And Doug Rice from from the
• 1:07:19
  Performance Racing network from PRN told me one time, he said,
• 1:07:22
  Scott, he goes, what you got to understand about sticking ball
• 1:07:24
  sports versus Motorsports is like Motorsports, the tracks in
• 1:07:30
  the middle of nowhere. And that's where they were and
• 1:07:32
  that's where they started and, and people went to it and stick
• 1:07:37
  and ball sports are in the middle of the city.
• 1:07:38
  So everybody's there and they stay there.
• 1:07:40
  But when you're a track in the middle of nowhere, you know,
• 1:07:42
  everybody comes to it. Now, what's that causing that's
• 1:07:45
  causing the suburban sprawl? And then we need all these right
• 1:07:47
  to race rules and all that, you know, protections and all that
• 1:07:50
  stuff. Because as suburbs get closer,
• 1:07:52
  then people start to complain and noise and all that other
• 1:07:54
  stuff, which is a pain in the butt.
• 1:07:57
  So it's, it's a part of knowing who your core audience is, but
• 1:08:01
  also inviting in a new fan and knowing that they're going to be
• 1:08:04
  a little bit different from the person who's like, you got to
• 1:08:08
  keep it moving. You got to, you know, this is
• 1:08:10
  the track's got to be this. And, and, and that's the whole
• 1:08:14
  thing of finding that balance. And it can be hard.
• 1:08:16
  I, I'll tell you, I think promoters are the most
• 1:08:18
  underappreciated people in the world.
• 1:08:21
  I think the fans who, you know, do the keyboard warrior stuff,
• 1:08:24
  they don't have a clue or they maybe they do have a clue and
• 1:08:27
  they just don't want to listen. But at the same time, if you can
• 1:08:34
  find that balance and you can make the, the, the new fans
• 1:08:37
  happy and bring them in, you can, I think, I think we can be
• 1:08:41
  in a place. I mean, Drew, you guys got
• 1:08:44
  50,000 people, you know, following the Kalamazoo page
• 1:08:46
  right on on Facebook. The reality is, I mean, you
• 1:08:50
  can't fit 50,000 people in the stands and you probably got a
• 1:08:52
  ton of people from outside of, you know, far away from
• 1:08:56
  Kalamazoo just because some of the crazy stuff you guys do
• 1:08:58
  there. But the reality is there 40 mile
• 1:09:02
  circle around Kalamazoo, there's eight other tracks, but there's
• 1:09:06
  61,000 NASCAR fans in that circle, right?
• 1:09:11
  61,000 fans amongst 8 tracks. My God, you could sell all of
• 1:09:16
  them out, you'd have 30,000 fans leftover.
• 1:09:21
  But I think one of the, I think one of the challenges that
• 1:09:24
  sometimes we end up with is, is I think, and I've talked to
• 1:09:26
  promoters who've told me this and, and they're like, well, I,
• 1:09:30
  you know, tracks can't run on the same nights because they
• 1:09:31
  don't want to, you know, they don't want to lose fans to
• 1:09:34
  another, they don't want to lose racers to another track.
• 1:09:36
  Obviously that's a big thing. But at the same time, I think, I
• 1:09:42
  think when you open your eyes beyond just the core loyal
• 1:09:46
  grassroots fan, the number of casual Motorsports fans who are
• 1:09:51
  the ones that we're trying to reach out to, those are the ones
• 1:09:54
  that are the future of the front gate at grassroots Motorsports
• 1:09:57
  from my opinion. No, you're absolutely right.
• 1:10:01
  It's so hard to let alone get new people in the building.
• 1:10:05
  I'll give you an example. Media's tough, like getting rent
• 1:10:10
  TV. I have a decent relationship
• 1:10:13
  with the sports director in Kalamazoo, and I called him,
• 1:10:16
  hey, can we get some coverage on this?
• 1:10:17
  Well, you know, this guy's out of the office.
• 1:10:20
  I dropped that guy that, you know, from Portage, MI's name.
• 1:10:23
  C, You know, Carson. Oh, wow.
• 1:10:26
  Yeah, wow. Absolutely.
• 1:10:28
  We'll cover something with that. And it just that boggles my
• 1:10:33
  mind. Like, we can help each other.
• 1:10:36
  Like even TV over the year, radio, TV is dying.
• 1:10:42
  We can help each other. We don't want to be extinct
• 1:10:44
  together. That's just it's a struggle for
• 1:10:47
  any short track. And you, you imagine what was
• 1:10:50
  it? Wake County, that's in a big
• 1:10:52
  metropolitan area rally. That cocktail night that they
• 1:10:55
  did or something that that and they ended up with the bar night
• 1:10:58
  or whatever. I, I forget what the
• 1:10:59
  circumstance were around. You probably divide them and I
• 1:11:01
  do. The same thing they don't.
• 1:11:03
  They're making their own media coverage.
• 1:11:05
  They had that. I don't know if you were at RPM
• 1:11:08
  when that they were telling the story about this Tik Toker that
• 1:11:11
  came out to the racetrack, which unannounced did a video and what
• 1:11:16
  we'll say it wasn't the clientele they were expecting.
• 1:11:19
  And it was a great time they were out there just because that
• 1:11:21
  one Tik Toker had brought a very different demographic of race
• 1:11:26
  fan and it packed the place. They they honestly were shocked
• 1:11:29
  and very excited and made 30,000 new race fans.
• 1:11:35
  There's 10,000 new race fans, whoever showed up that night all
• 1:11:38
  because of that Tik Toker. And, and you know what?
• 1:11:41
  And that's The thing is, and I, and I, I use this in some of my,
• 1:11:44
  my trainings that I've done is you can find your local
• 1:11:48
  influencers, right? Like Sycamore Speedway.
• 1:11:50
  And this wasn't even something that they did Sycamore Speedway
• 1:11:53
  up in, up in Illinois here last year.
• 1:11:55
  They had a woman come out. She calls herself the the modern
• 1:11:58
  day mom is her handle on TikTok. Every day she goes to a
• 1:12:02
  different place, she takes her kids, her family or whatever.
• 1:12:04
  She ended up going to Sycamore one night unannounced.
• 1:12:08
  She brought her kids and she put the the the TikTok up.
• 1:12:11
  That TikTok got 400,000 views and and most of her most of her
• 1:12:17
  Tik Toks had, you know, 20-30, forty thousand.
• 1:12:20
  I mean, she had a good following.
• 1:12:21
  She's built it since then. But but it's absolutely amazing
• 1:12:25
  how she just put it out as look from her the perspective of her
• 1:12:29
  kids watching the race and she's got a, a a following of just
• 1:12:34
  moms, right? Like how many tracks actually
• 1:12:37
  build a night around moms and kids, right.
• 1:12:41
  I know some tracks do you know, but it's like, you know, make it
• 1:12:45
  Lightning McQueen nightmare or come, come dressed as your
• 1:12:48
  favorite Disney character or whatever and and have Disney
• 1:12:51
  character stuffed animals hanging out of cars.
• 1:12:53
  You know, I just, it's little stuff like that, that just, you
• 1:12:56
  know, it's definitely different from the old school.
• 1:12:59
  Hey, we're here to race mindset, right?
• 1:13:02
  These are races. It's dirty, it's it's greasy,
• 1:13:05
  it's grimy, it's it's loud. But you know what, it's also
• 1:13:08
  fun. And, and those racers are having
• 1:13:10
  fun too. They just have fun from a
• 1:13:12
  different perspective. So it's just, it's just
• 1:13:14
  everybody figuring out how to how to enjoy that together.
• 1:13:17
  And I think there's so much upside for grassroots racing and
• 1:13:20
  you know, where a lot of people are kind of thinking, oh man,
• 1:13:22
  it's so hard. There's a track for sale every
• 1:13:24
  day. I think the upside's there, and
• 1:13:26
  that's what we're trying to do, is just get more of those casual
• 1:13:29
  fans to realize, wow, there's something pretty cool near me.
• 1:13:34
  Yeah, the problem is it's trying to follow in the balance between
• 1:13:37
  the the casual fan and the traditional fan, because the
• 1:13:40
  traditional fan doesn't want any change and doesn't have an
• 1:13:43
  understanding. It's the same thing in all
• 1:13:45
  sports. Hockey, basketball, you, you
• 1:13:48
  look at all the minor leagues of pro teams, they always have
• 1:13:50
  something constantly going on from the time the game starts to
• 1:13:54
  a be a time out to intermission. And people get annoyed by that.
• 1:13:59
  But 90% of the people there are to drink a beer and eat a hot
• 1:14:03
  dog and hang out with their friends and there just happens
• 1:14:05
  to be a sporting event going on front.
• 1:14:07
  It doesn't matter if it's racing.
• 1:14:09
  Berlin is a perfect example of that.
• 1:14:11
  They built a social spot. Yes, they get big race for die
• 1:14:17
  hard fans, but Berlin is a different market because there's
• 1:14:21
  a lot of different upscale bars and restaurants and they
• 1:14:24
  transition Berlin Raceway into that with their bar.
• 1:14:27
  Just look at what Kenny Wallace posted this weekend.
• 1:14:30
  It's an experience sitting there.
• 1:14:31
  They got a live band playing while the racetrack is going on,
• 1:14:34
  got a bar outside that's serving you drinks and you just happen
• 1:14:37
  to have race cars going around. So it makes it a cool ambi nuts
• 1:14:40
  and experience. Yeah, I mean, you think about
• 1:14:45
  it's an entertainment district in one little place, you know,
• 1:14:48
  all in one. I mean, and tracks, you know
• 1:14:51
  what tracks can kind of do. I mean, how much does it cost
• 1:14:54
  for a karaoke machine, right? I mean, you can buy a karaoke
• 1:14:57
  machine for 400 bucks and and during intermissions, you can
• 1:15:00
  have fans doing karaoke in the midway while they're waiting in
• 1:15:03
  line for hot dogs. You know, you know, you put a
• 1:15:06
  couple of put a couple of, you know, 2 by 10s on top of a
• 1:15:10
  couple of buckets. Well, obviously you don't want
• 1:15:12
  to do that because the insurance people don't like something that
• 1:15:14
  shit. I don't think they've they were
• 1:15:18
  any of those guys are listening to this right now.
• 1:15:20
  But but little things like that, like there's so much Knights of
• 1:15:28
  Destruction, monster trucks, those plays, things are going to
• 1:15:31
  pack every track, right? Everybody wants to see Sunday,
• 1:15:35
  Sunday, Sunday, Thunder, Thunder, Thunder, you know, all
• 1:15:38
  that stuff. But I think I think what we what
• 1:15:43
  we got to understand is it doesn't take that to get people
• 1:15:47
  excited, right? You can get people excited with
• 1:15:50
  something a little bit less and just keep them engaged and make
• 1:15:53
  sure they're having a good time. You know, there's downtime
• 1:15:56
  during and even destruction, right?
• 1:15:58
  There's it happens. I mean, they got to, they got to
• 1:16:01
  move the rec trucks off, they got, you know, all that other
• 1:16:03
  stuff. So there's downtime during all
• 1:16:04
  of it. It's it's Motorsports.
• 1:16:06
  I mean, you know what, there's downtime in baseball games in
• 1:16:08
  between every inning, twice actually, there's 18 gaps in a,
• 1:16:13
  in a, in a baseball game that people have to deal with.
• 1:16:16
  So you know what? The Savannah Bananas have
• 1:16:19
  figured out how to make that entertaining, too.
• 1:16:21
  And to your point, what you're talking about, I'm, I announced
• 1:16:24
  at the new Paris Speedway here in Indiana on Saturday.
• 1:16:26
  And they just started a new tradition last week where at the
• 1:16:29
  intermission they bring 1. The featured class of the week
• 1:16:31
  comes up and they have a meet and greet underneath the tower.
• 1:16:35
  The Hornet drivers this week we're bringing hero cards.
• 1:16:37
  Ray Roberts, who has a Ninja Turtle car, had pizza boxes
• 1:16:40
  stickered up like the Ninja Turtles with candy in it.
• 1:16:42
  And that's something that doesn't cost the track anything
• 1:16:44
  to do. And then those kids go back to
• 1:16:46
  school in the spring and they tell the other kids what they
• 1:16:48
  saw at the racetrack. That's what makes a difference,
• 1:16:50
  like you said. So I just wanted to reiterate
• 1:16:52
  your point, I guess. And you know what I thought,
• 1:16:54
  honestly, I thought that that was like a regular staple of, of
• 1:16:58
  what happens at grassroots race. I mean, have racers kind of stop
• 1:17:00
  being willing to do that stuff because I think that.
• 1:17:03
  I don't know that the racers are necessarily aren't willing to do
• 1:17:07
  it. I just think tracks anymore.
• 1:17:10
  And then this, this goes back to what we were saying earlier
• 1:17:12
  about getting through the show, but tracks are so focused on
• 1:17:14
  getting through the show that there's not really the time for
• 1:17:17
  the drivers go up and walk through the stands and meet fans
• 1:17:20
  and hand stuff out like there used to be.
• 1:17:22
  In my opinion, I'm not a promoter.
• 1:17:24
  So the the first time I went to Sycamore Speedway when I moved
• 1:17:27
  out to Illinois, it was back in probably 2004, 2005.
• 1:17:32
  I was in the stands and then when we walked out, the, the
• 1:17:37
  drivers who are already done, they hadn't left.
• 1:17:40
  They had literally just moved their trucks and their trailers
• 1:17:43
  out into the parking lot and had them lined along the parking lot
• 1:17:47
  so people could see the cars as you're going to there because
• 1:17:50
  you know, it's Sycamore. The the pits are way in the back
• 1:17:52
  and the, and the parking lots way in the front, like like in a
• 1:17:55
  lot of tracks. And you know, I in the last four
• 1:17:59
  to five years, I think sometimes promoters are under appreciated.
• 1:18:04
  Promoters are over taxed and under resourced and they've got
• 1:18:07
  so many things going on. You know what, I think people
• 1:18:09
  don't realize how many things racers have going on too before
• 1:18:12
  and after shows, you know, they got to get packed up, maybe they
• 1:18:15
  got to go drive 2 hours or three hours or whatever.
• 1:18:18
  So that's, that's a part of it too.
• 1:18:20
  So, you know, I think I just, I love what grassroots racing
• 1:18:25
  offers for entertainment, you know, and I think Drew just went
• 1:18:30
  out to try and do some promotion.
• 1:18:31
  Drew's. Trying to get people in the
• 1:18:34
  stands right now. Man, some of the things that I
• 1:18:38
  hear when he talks about the promoters Association and the
• 1:18:40
  things that they're doing, it's just like, wow, I was, I was
• 1:18:43
  going through the the Kalamazoo Facebook page earlier and I saw
• 1:18:47
  those pictures of the Stacker cars.
• 1:18:48
  I'm like, I think, I think late June, I'm going to be heading to
• 1:18:50
  Kalamazoo. I mean, I'm only a couple hours
• 1:18:52
  away. I got to see those things.
• 1:18:54
  That's. Worth the truth?
• 1:18:56
  Well, and I know where you come off from Stacker races right on
• 1:18:58
  top of racing Media's YouTube channel, but that's where yeah,
• 1:19:02
  they're awesome. But this I'm I'm kind of sad
• 1:19:05
  it's, you know, more of a demo Derby with them, like it's going
• 1:19:08
  to be a final send off. But they I.
• 1:19:10
  I think it's just a final send off to the fleet.
• 1:19:12
  I'm not saying they're not going to ever do Oh.
• 1:19:15
  No, but yeah, but this fleet, they've had some stories to
• 1:19:17
  tell. And if you've not seen a stacker
• 1:19:20
  race guy, I haven't, it is well worth it.
• 1:19:22
  I had one clip one time that went wild.
• 1:19:25
  I want to say an Oh my. God, some of that, some of that
• 1:19:30
  racing from England that you see, what do they call it?
• 1:19:32
  They're just banger racing. Yeah.
• 1:19:35
  Oh my God, They just took the crap out of each other.
• 1:19:40
  There's a guy stuck on the wall and everybody else is just
• 1:19:42
  purposely driving into the guy stuck on the wall.
• 1:19:44
  That's the same. There's like right?
• 1:19:46
  That's left of the. Car right?
• 1:19:48
  Scott, you were kind of talk about is, you know, what does it
• 1:19:50
  look like sometimes at grassroots like when Buju was
• 1:19:53
  sharing? And so we have Jr.
• 1:19:54
  Hayes who commented like nowadays, and this is something
• 1:19:57
  Boujee and I've talked about. Nowadays, most cars are in are
• 1:20:00
  in closed trailers, which hides the cars when driving down the
• 1:20:04
  trailways. And we've kind of talked about
• 1:20:05
  and I even think someone at at PRII think said it this way.
• 1:20:10
  If not, it's at the Michigan Promoter Association is you
• 1:20:12
  don't know whether it's maybe it was even you, Scott, that you
• 1:20:15
  don't know whether it's a race car or a lawnmower service.
• 1:20:18
  Like you just don't know before. And now I know, and I was
• 1:20:22
  telling this to bury with Great Lakes Super sprints, I think.
• 1:20:25
  I know when when they're in town at Hartford because as I'm going
• 1:20:29
  to Kalamazoo, it's like a convoy coming down or westbound going
• 1:20:34
  towards Hartford. I said you just see trailer
• 1:20:36
  after trailer and you definitely know it's a Sprint car.
• 1:20:38
  But it's one thing that I kind of mentioned and I know it costs
• 1:20:41
  money. So I I'm.
• 1:20:42
  Yeah, the wraps. You know, wraps cost money to do
• 1:20:45
  that and but it's like even if you went a little cheaper and
• 1:20:49
  just even put numbers on the trailer to show that it is a
• 1:20:53
  race trailer or, or something even on the back.
• 1:20:56
  It doesn't have to be super fancy.
• 1:20:58
  It doesn't have to be wrapped all the way.
• 1:20:59
  But that's one thing that I during COVID, I remember this
• 1:21:03
  driving back from South Bend because Michigan was closed
• 1:21:07
  down. You can't race anywhere but
• 1:21:09
  Anna. They were wide open.
• 1:21:10
  They're welcoming everybody. And so, so literally I just
• 1:21:14
  crossed the border and to South, you know, and went to South Bend
• 1:21:18
  and, but coming on my way home, all the cars going back to
• 1:21:21
  Michigan and it's like, oh, that's race car.
• 1:21:23
  It reminded me of like growing, growing up at Santa Fe Speedway,
• 1:21:27
  you knew when the pulled in and you knew when the Izzos pulled
• 1:21:31
  out and when the Izzo pulled out, everybody else pretty much
• 1:21:33
  left, right, Like they waited around for the Izzo family and
• 1:21:36
  hung around with them. Or Schuler's down at Grundy
• 1:21:39
  County. You just had all these guys who
• 1:21:41
  did all these things. And so that's one thing that I
• 1:21:43
  definitely, you know, impacts. I have noticed more open
• 1:21:48
  trailers lately at even at Kalamazoo, I mean, there's still
• 1:21:50
  a ton of enclosed, but I've noticed more and more some and,
• 1:21:55
  you know, open trailers where cars are coming in and it's
• 1:21:57
  like, man, that's just, it's like old days.
• 1:21:58
  And I love that, right? And I just kind of wish that
• 1:22:02
  there's a way to you maybe can't bring that back because it's
• 1:22:05
  already the box is already open, right?
• 1:22:08
  You know, and I know enclosed trailers, you can literally put
• 1:22:10
  houses in there of everything you need tools and all that.
• 1:22:13
  And I get the convenience and the cooling factor, but it's
• 1:22:16
  like, but how is it differentiate from a lawn mower
• 1:22:20
  service or how does it differentiate from a lawn care
• 1:22:22
  service or you know, so I think sometimes that's how fans can
• 1:22:25
  feel disconnected. And even too after the races,
• 1:22:28
  like at Kalamazoo, our pits are open as soon as the races are
• 1:22:31
  done, you can go down, but half the half the trailers are
• 1:22:34
  zooming out of there, you know, ready to go home.
• 1:22:37
  And I get it's a long day, especially on a Friday.
• 1:22:39
  I totally understand. But one idea I told Chris and
• 1:22:43
  Tracy is, you know, what, if we offered some kind of incentive,
• 1:22:47
  I said I'll help fund it. It could be like a sponsorship
• 1:22:49
  or whatever, some kind of a sense of that 15 minutes, 1520
• 1:22:53
  minutes after the races, the new Paris pits are open.
• 1:22:57
  Keep the drivers there. And, you know, try to try to get
• 1:23:01
  fans to interact with the drivers.
• 1:23:03
  You know, 1520 minutes isn't long.
• 1:23:04
  You're not going to get to everybody.
• 1:23:07
  But can fans get to enough people or find their favorite
• 1:23:10
  driver, their favorite car, You know, otherwise, you know, by
• 1:23:14
  the time fans get there, like Bozell's hang around sex, hang
• 1:23:17
  around at Kalamazoo, some do, but a lot of the pitch empty.
• 1:23:21
  And it's just like, well, no wonder fans don't know who you
• 1:23:24
  are other than in the car because there there's very
• 1:23:26
  little chance. So what are some things that
• 1:23:29
  you've seen while you're going around to all these tracks that
• 1:23:32
  maybe a track does really well before the races or after the
• 1:23:36
  races for fan engagement with drivers?
• 1:23:39
  Oh man, you know what? And this is where I'm going to
• 1:23:42
  look really sad on this because when the races aren't going on,
• 1:23:46
  I'm walking through the pits taking tons of pictures to
• 1:23:48
  share. So I mean, I've had, you know,
• 1:23:53
  obviously the, the candy throw from the, the flag stand is a
• 1:23:56
  big thing, right? That's, that's a huge thing.
• 1:23:58
  Limbo contest. Here's here's some things that
• 1:24:02
  I've actually talked with tracks about doing, but I haven't seen
• 1:24:04
  them do. And, and this is a way to get
• 1:24:06
  the younger people in. Like if you're a track and
• 1:24:09
  you've got 4 high schools within 25 miles, why not invite their
• 1:24:13
  quarterbacks to come and have a, a, a throwing contest to see who
• 1:24:18
  can throw the ball the most times through the tire that's
• 1:24:21
  mounted 20 yards away, right? So you get, you know, do it, do
• 1:24:26
  it three weeks in a row. Bring 2 high schools in one
• 1:24:28
  week, 2 high schools in another week.
• 1:24:29
  They're all gonna bring their team mates and their, their
• 1:24:31
  friends and everything to see if they can win.
• 1:24:34
  And then, you know, and then the final, the, the last night, I
• 1:24:37
  mean, little things like that, that don't take more than 10
• 1:24:40
  minutes, right? But give that quarterback 10
• 1:24:42
  tickets for him and his friends, right?
• 1:24:45
  And then all their friends are gonna come too, you know,
• 1:24:47
  they're, you know, give them a special BOGO, whatever it is.
• 1:24:50
  But you'll get, you'll get kids to school that have never been
• 1:24:53
  there before, right? You know, play a little T-ball
• 1:24:57
  on the front stretch, right? I mean, little things like that.
• 1:25:02
  I think there's this, there's this misnomer that it's either
• 1:25:05
  racing or it's sticking ball sports.
• 1:25:07
  Racing is not a sticking ball sport.
• 1:25:08
  It can't be marketed like it. But you know what?
• 1:25:10
  The people who like those sticking ball sports, we can
• 1:25:14
  market to them. Why don't we bring what they
• 1:25:16
  like into our world and let them see it, right?
• 1:25:20
  I mean, you get 2 high school quarterbacks, they got pretty
• 1:25:24
  big egos. They're going to want to win
• 1:25:25
  that, right? They're not going to want to
• 1:25:27
  lose. They're going to want all their
• 1:25:28
  friends there. But you know what?
• 1:25:31
  Just you know, and you put a couple of Hoosier, you get
• 1:25:32
  Hoosier to sponsor it, right? Put a couple of Hoosier tires,
• 1:25:35
  put one circle on the, you know, on the top or whatever and see
• 1:25:38
  who can throw in from furthest away and just keep moving away
• 1:25:40
  until they get, you know, who can throw it the furthest away.
• 1:25:44
  There's not really any insurance risk there at all.
• 1:25:46
  It's just tires mounted in a football, for crying out loud.
• 1:25:50
  So just engaging things like that, right?
• 1:25:54
  And that's what it's about. It's just giving people
• 1:25:56
  something to root for when when the cars aren't running.
• 1:25:59
  Well, I don't know, New Paris, they have a football team who
• 1:26:02
  uses their facility for training.
• 1:26:05
  They do like bicycle training and all that where they, they
• 1:26:09
  use the facility. And I went, So what if before,
• 1:26:12
  because Indiana starts football before Michigan, I said, you
• 1:26:16
  know, what if you know their final week before their first
• 1:26:20
  game, What if you had them come out on their bikes, give them
• 1:26:23
  all free tickets or you've already used your facility all
• 1:26:25
  summer. Have them come out and do a race
• 1:26:28
  to the finish. You know, the OR you know, race
• 1:26:31
  to the start of the season or whatever, like that final lap,
• 1:26:33
  you know, you've done it all. Now it's time to go, you know,
• 1:26:37
  now it's time to play the game, take all your training that we
• 1:26:39
  put together. And so I'm going to try to
• 1:26:41
  remind them of that because I know the local football team was
• 1:26:44
  using their facility to do that kind of stuff and they loved it
• 1:26:47
  and enjoyed it. It's like that's one community
• 1:26:50
  service. So that's promoting something
• 1:26:51
  you've done in the community that this is, this can be a
• 1:26:54
  community facility. It's not just the track out in
• 1:26:57
  the backwoods, but you know, and I know insurance dictates some
• 1:27:02
  of what can and can't happen at a track and and that's something
• 1:27:05
  insurance, but I know there's some things that, you know, like
• 1:27:08
  I brought up, well, insurance won't allow that.
• 1:27:10
  Well, this track can do it, but that track does actually have
• 1:27:13
  different insurance. So maybe they what they can do
• 1:27:15
  and what they can do are completely different.
• 1:27:16
  But and it gets frustrating where it's like, well, there's
• 1:27:19
  only two of them and the whole United States that does that.
• 1:27:21
  Can't they like have some things in common, you know, like to
• 1:27:25
  allow and not allow for fan engagement.
• 1:27:26
  That's still safe. And so I might pass on that idea
• 1:27:29
  because I do know the football team is use their use their
• 1:27:32
  track and stuff. It's like, hey, that could be
• 1:27:35
  something cool. Or get a county Elkhart County
• 1:27:38
  invite, get all the quarterbacks from the area.
• 1:27:40
  You know, they're already doing 7 on 7.
• 1:27:43
  You know, have them come out there and maybe do some kind of
• 1:27:46
  competition, you know, roll, tire roll.
• 1:27:48
  Little skills test. Yeah, You know, something that,
• 1:27:51
  you know, then you're getting schools engaged.
• 1:27:53
  And you know, and I know that something that's coming out of
• 1:27:56
  KRI was an idea that I had after hearing the high school racer.
• 1:28:02
  I forget his name right now. Jonathan Eckleburg.
• 1:28:05
  And Yep, you know, hearing him and then hearing what attracted
• 1:28:09
  with their buses, where the schools designed the buses and
• 1:28:12
  it was a rivalry and you know, the money raised went towards
• 1:28:16
  that school or whatever that, you know, the schools got into
• 1:28:19
  it. So I think there's just a lot of
• 1:28:21
  different things, but it's, you know, it's one, as you said,
• 1:28:23
  tracks are under resourced. I you know, that's not, I mean,
• 1:28:27
  look at you go to McDonald's or Burger King and they're under
• 1:28:29
  resourced and they're corporations.
• 1:28:31
  So now you're talking about, you know, most tracks in this area,
• 1:28:34
  the owners are still working. They don't get just sit around
• 1:28:37
  all day and do nothing except racing.
• 1:28:39
  Like they have full time jobs. They have different things.
• 1:28:41
  So I get it's a resource thing, but it's like, but what little
• 1:28:44
  can you, you know, what little planning things can you do or
• 1:28:47
  find somebody who's willing, which maybe it's harder to do
• 1:28:50
  too, but you know, find someone who's willing to take this on
• 1:28:53
  and say, I'll make that my project.
• 1:28:54
  You know, I'm willing to make that project.
• 1:28:56
  You get a football mom behind that, they'll make that their
• 1:28:58
  project. If they're, you know, if their
• 1:29:00
  son can be out in front of a couple hundreds of 1000 people,
• 1:29:03
  that's exposure, you know, you know, it's exposure for the
• 1:29:07
  teams, you know, let them come out and something while they're
• 1:29:10
  there, 5050, whatever. So, so yeah, that's why I wanted
• 1:29:14
  to ask that because I know everyone's always thinking of
• 1:29:16
  ideas, but you know, while we're kind of talking about it and you
• 1:29:20
  know what drivers can do, it's also, you know, you get to
• 1:29:23
  travel around, you get to see these different things.
• 1:29:25
  Something that stood out to you were like, hey, that's actually
• 1:29:28
  a pretty good idea. Or hey, I liked how they did
• 1:29:30
  that. There was a, there was a track
• 1:29:32
  who was actually working on an idea to they have a, a local
• 1:29:36
  technical industrial school. It's a community knowledge
• 1:29:39
  technical industrial school. They were gonna have a, a table
• 1:29:43
  building contest at halftime. They were going to do a bracket.
• 1:29:45
  They had like, you know, because woodworking was one of the, one
• 1:29:48
  of the specialties in carpentry, whatever.
• 1:29:50
  So they were actually going to do where you, you know, the
• 1:29:52
  track provides the wood in the bolts or whatever, right?
• 1:29:55
  And it's all the same plan. So, you know, and it was who
• 1:29:58
  could put the table together quickest.
• 1:30:01
  And you know, you get, you get 4 people doing it at the same time
• 1:30:05
  and you get the entire college to come on out and see who's,
• 1:30:08
  you know, who went in quicker, right?
• 1:30:10
  I mean, they get the college to sponsor it.
• 1:30:12
  They get the, they get the materials, you know, and, and
• 1:30:15
  the local lumber stores sponsor it.
• 1:30:17
  There's so many different things you can do just to get other
• 1:30:21
  people engaged. You don't always have to go and
• 1:30:23
  just root for the racers. You can root for the fans who
• 1:30:25
  are doing the silly stuff too, you know, and that just, that
• 1:30:29
  just comes. I'll tell you where that comes
• 1:30:30
  from. For me, that comes from, I
• 1:30:32
  worked in radio for 10 years and we had to come up with silly,
• 1:30:36
  stupid games to entertain people at radio remotes.
• 1:30:41
  You know, that's, that's where that comes from.
• 1:30:43
  It's like, what can we do with no budget to try and just get
• 1:30:47
  people engaged? And you get a bunch of fans of a
• 1:30:49
  radio station and they'll do anything.
• 1:30:50
  You know, they'll just have fun as long as they can win a couple
• 1:30:52
  tickets to a concert or AT shirt or a, a, a bumper sticker.
• 1:30:56
  It's amazing how how little can motivate people.
• 1:31:00
  Absolutely. But I, I, I, I think the biggest
• 1:31:05
  issue that we run into is a lot of promoters are their own
• 1:31:10
  groundskeepers, their marketing. Team.
• 1:31:14
  And on top of it, they probably own a successful business.
• 1:31:18
  For them to be able to keep the racetrack open, there's not very
• 1:31:21
  many people that work as not a factor into their racetrack.
• 1:31:28
  So these are all great ideas, but it's implementing it and
• 1:31:31
  that's it's hard to do. And not everybody is a Berlin
• 1:31:36
  Raceway or Madison International Speedway that has full time
• 1:31:40
  staff or that's what they do for a living.
• 1:31:43
  So how, how would you suggest to a promoter that's in that
• 1:31:49
  situation, Scott, that they can make the best of a situation and
• 1:31:53
  do some of the stuff we're talking about tonight?
• 1:31:56
  So one of the things that so my kids played youth soccer, right
• 1:31:59
  when I was when they were growing up, one of the things
• 1:32:01
  that a lot of the, the facilities, minor League
• 1:32:03
  Baseball parks and even the Chicago Fire did it, you know,
• 1:32:07
  soccer teams, they invited non profits to come and work the
• 1:32:13
  concession stands, right. The nonprofit got a cut of the
• 1:32:17
  concessions for the night, but they ran the concession stand.
• 1:32:20
  I mean, they had, they had, they had their, you know, their
• 1:32:22
  regular staffers, whatever, but it was a volunteer thing.
• 1:32:26
  The, the rest of the, the soccer club gets a discount ticket for
• 1:32:29
  the night or whatever if they're not working it per SE.
• 1:32:32
  But I mean, why not invite the local PTA to come on out?
• 1:32:36
  And hey, you know what, we, we would love for you guys to come
• 1:32:39
  on out and, and have a game night with the kids of your, of
• 1:32:43
  your school or whatever. I think that there's, but then
• 1:32:45
  again, like you said, Drew, I mean, who's the one who
• 1:32:48
  organizes that, right? So there's all these different
• 1:32:52
  ways to do it, but it's a matter of I, I, I think it's a matter
• 1:32:56
  of picking one thing and making it a priority, you know, because
• 1:33:03
  the time, I mean, you can't make a 25th dollar out of a day.
• 1:33:05
  I, and I get that piece of it. And, and you're absolutely
• 1:33:08
  right, very few tracks have more than one full time staff member.
• 1:33:13
  But I think there's ways, you know, just to, to engage people.
• 1:33:17
  Local nonprofits are always looking for ways to raise money
• 1:33:21
  and if and if it's worth giving up, you know, 5% of concessions
• 1:33:26
  for a night to have labor that's volunteer.
• 1:33:29
  I don't know, is that worth it or not?
• 1:33:30
  Or, or, or to run a game or whatever.
• 1:33:33
  You know, I, I don't know if it's worth it or not.
• 1:33:35
  Like I said, I'm, I'm not in those shoes and I don't have a
• 1:33:38
  clue what it's like. But I think if promoters looked
• 1:33:43
  at it and said, OK, is there someone that we know who's an
• 1:33:47
  entertaining son of a gun, right?
• 1:33:49
  Like, would that person want to do it right?
• 1:33:52
  You know, who's the class clown at the local high school that
• 1:33:55
  wants to, you know, have a little stage or, you know, who's
• 1:33:58
  the local karaoke star who wants to, you know, kind of put on
• 1:34:01
  some things or whatever, you know?
• 1:34:03
  But what? But like you said, Drew, I, I, I
• 1:34:05
  totally appreciate that. It's like a vast majority of
• 1:34:11
  race tracks are the second or third business of successful
• 1:34:15
  business owners. And, and that's the reality of
• 1:34:18
  the grassroots industry, but I also think that's what kind of
• 1:34:22
  makes it a little bit more personal too, because people get
• 1:34:25
  to know each other. And I think I think as much as
• 1:34:27
  that can be a challenge, I think it can also be a strength too,
• 1:34:31
  because the more people that a promoter can invite in to get to
• 1:34:36
  know what's going on and be a part of it and feel like they're
• 1:34:38
  a part of it. You know what, sometimes I think
• 1:34:41
  that might help along in the long term.
• 1:34:43
  But you know, you never know. Like I said, I haven't been
• 1:34:45
  there and, and you've lived it a lot more than I have.
• 1:34:48
  So you can, you can, you can, you can critique my thoughts all
• 1:34:52
  you want on that one for. Sure you know prime example, our
• 1:34:56
  owner of Kalamazoo, he's a successful trucking business
• 1:34:59
  guy, towing business guy Saturday through Friday till
• 1:35:03
  about 2:00. But the fans will know him
• 1:35:05
  because he's been on that grill, grill and steak on a stick and
• 1:35:08
  hamburgers for six years that he's on the racetrack now.
• 1:35:13
  So I mean, that's and it's all family that's in the concession
• 1:35:17
  stand. So it it's a family business if
• 1:35:21
  they like it or not. But at the time, the fans get to
• 1:35:24
  know and see who our owner is and personalize with them, good,
• 1:35:27
  bad or indifferent. But it is, you know, Greg
• 1:35:33
  Mccarns always at the front gate at the end of the way.
• 1:35:36
  He's taking a hand that goes a long way.
• 1:35:38
  You know. There's it's just a, a tough
• 1:35:43
  sport that we're in. And I think people like you,
• 1:35:45
  Lewis, myself and Buju, you know, we got to keep finding
• 1:35:50
  people like us because, you know, I'm kind of depressed
• 1:35:54
  that, you know, in about two years, it'll be my 30th class
• 1:35:57
  reunion. And I don't feel that old, but
• 1:35:59
  I'm getting married. So I do have a couple of a
• 1:36:04
  couple years on you that I don't feel so old anymore.
• 1:36:07
  Actually, I feel older. My God.
• 1:36:10
  Oh, by the way, we both. Know we both didn't have Matt
• 1:36:13
  and know Alan Brown. That makes us old.
• 1:36:14
  Yeah, this. Year, you're right about that
• 1:36:18
  and and by the way, I got to say Buju, some of those videos that
• 1:36:21
  you've put out, man, those those historical videos, the first one
• 1:36:25
  that I saw that you did was the one of of the the forgotten
• 1:36:28
  racetrack near O'Hare at Chicago.
• 1:36:31
  I mean I had no freaking clue that that existed and I was
• 1:36:35
  like, wow, that's amazing. Like in the some of the stuff
• 1:36:39
  that you're putting out. Kudos to you man.
• 1:36:41
  And and I think understanding the history, you know, you
• 1:36:47
  mentioned the Lewis, you mentioned the the track in, in
• 1:36:51
  in the Chicago suburbs. Well, some.
• 1:36:54
  Blue Island. No, not Blue Island.
• 1:36:57
  Santa Fe. Yeah, I mean, I never knew that
• 1:37:00
  existed because I didn't move to Chicago until 2000, till right
• 1:37:03
  around 2000 or whatever. When we were looking for houses,
• 1:37:08
  we were looking in that area because they were, they were
• 1:37:11
  literally building houses on the property that used to be Santa
• 1:37:14
  Fe. And they were like, yeah, this
• 1:37:15
  used to be a racetrack. And I was like, really.
• 1:37:18
  Yeah, you know, and it's, and now it's just like all like,
• 1:37:21
  really. I mean, back then they were
• 1:37:23
  actually affordable. Now.
• 1:37:24
  No way. Yeah, yeah, there is a
• 1:37:27
  historical marker there if you've never seen the.
• 1:37:29
  Historical. Yeah.
• 1:37:31
  Dedicated one? No.
• 1:37:33
  Five years ago, 6 maybe. It's.
• 1:37:36
  Like that, but there is a marker there.
• 1:37:37
  But yeah, all they did is they elevated the land to build it
• 1:37:40
  above the track because it was contaminated land.
• 1:37:42
  So I mean, they did a couple different things to get around
• 1:37:45
  all the laws and everything to do that.
• 1:37:47
  But yeah, there that was a sad situation, but I do know the
• 1:37:52
  legacy at least still lives on there.
• 1:37:54
  But that's where we had Brian Cusaban a few weeks ago.
• 1:37:57
  Who's the promoter down or excuse me, race director down at
• 1:38:00
  Grundy County Speedway and gone to Ileana.
• 1:38:03
  Well, Ileana is gone. He went to Blue Island.
• 1:38:05
  Blue Islands gone. Like there's so many tracks that
• 1:38:08
  are gone that, you know, at least with, you know, Buju
• 1:38:12
  putting in the groundwork on some of these that, you know,
• 1:38:14
  people are able to learn about them and see them.
• 1:38:17
  And I did let Buju know right away at the MSPA meeting where
• 1:38:21
  you gave credit and a highlight, like, you know, this video that
• 1:38:24
  he did for the right to race in Indiana.
• 1:38:27
  And there was another media person there who thought we
• 1:38:30
  shouldn't do that. But oh, wow, we did it anyways.
• 1:38:33
  And some people want the credit for themselves and not want to
• 1:38:38
  share it with anyone else. And that's OK.
• 1:38:40
  But. PRPRI ended actually ended up
• 1:38:44
  sharing that Tom Deary shared that video he got their he got
• 1:38:48
  their their legal people and who are doing all the right to raise
• 1:38:51
  stuff in in Washington DC kind of sharing it and everything Yep
• 1:38:54
  and so for. It right?
• 1:38:57
  Oh no, you do good stuff. I appreciate it guys.
• 1:39:00
  I do. I wish you'd do more Bujo, I
• 1:39:02
  know it's a lot to do. I'm I'm about 3/4 of the one.
• 1:39:06
  I got about 3/4 of the way through a video part of 1 today,
• 1:39:09
  so we're close to another. One because those I I don't take
• 1:39:13
  a lot of time to watch that kind of stuff, but you got me to stop
• 1:39:16
  and waiting for the next one you've done.
• 1:39:17
  Some and they're. Not new YouTube channel that
• 1:39:22
  he's getting going to. So they're not only on Facebook,
• 1:39:24
  but they're a lot easier to find on YouTube and they're his work.
• 1:39:27
  They're not my work. So I will never take credit for
• 1:39:29
  what he does. He is all behind that.
• 1:39:30
  But he did one on Montville and I reached out to him almost
• 1:39:34
  immediately and I said, you know, what if you you know to
• 1:39:37
  help him grow, right? What if you did something like
• 1:39:39
  that on top row use my platform that I've been able to build to
• 1:39:43
  help build his brand, right? You know, I'm not against
• 1:39:46
  helping others. And he's a day one.
• 1:39:48
  He's even prior to day one top row.
• 1:39:50
  So he's been here since the very beginning and part of the
• 1:39:54
  inspiration behind the the circle logo with the 70s retro
• 1:39:58
  look. And so, so it's one of those
• 1:40:01
  things that it's like, you know, you're someone who's been here
• 1:40:03
  since day one and then, you know, look at that like.
• 1:40:06
  He could have probably got that reach on his own, but then by
• 1:40:08
  using, you know, top row, you know, Chicago got out there,
• 1:40:11
  that right to a race got out there, all those different
• 1:40:13
  things got out there that are now recognizable.
• 1:40:16
  And then of course, through Twitter, he was able to get, you
• 1:40:18
  know, Mark Martin and Dale Junior and, you know, big names.
• 1:40:22
  So, so thank you for bringing that up 'cause he definitely
• 1:40:25
  deserves kudos on that. And even at MSPA, you might
• 1:40:28
  remember I went that's not mine. That is, that is I will never
• 1:40:33
  take credit for his work and but he does incredible.
• 1:40:36
  So so Scott, one thing that I was wondering too, you know,
• 1:40:42
  with get in the stands and what you've built so far, what's the
• 1:40:45
  end goal with this? Like where do you see it?
• 1:40:48
  When you when you're going to feel like, all right, we are at
• 1:40:52
  the peak because like we talked earlier, you're still building
• 1:40:54
  it. It will always be building, but
• 1:40:56
  when you, when are you and maybe you already feel it?
• 1:40:59
  When do you feel like, OK, this was the ultimate goal.
• 1:41:02
  We've reached the ultimate goal of what we were hoping for.
• 1:41:05
  Now let's go even further. Yeah, I'll be honest, 1300
• 1:41:11
  tracks listed on the site. And I've, I mean, I've, I've
• 1:41:16
  sent emails to every track. I've, I've, I've messaged tracks
• 1:41:21
  to their page and just saying, hey, here's your listing.
• 1:41:23
  Just claim it. If for some reason we just can't
• 1:41:28
  get tracks to actually claim their listing, even though it
• 1:41:31
  takes 5 minutes and it's totally free, right?
• 1:41:33
  So it's if, if track promoters listen to this, the reason you
• 1:41:39
  need to claim your track is if somebody searches your city and
• 1:41:44
  you're in that city and you haven't claimed your track,
• 1:41:48
  you're going to be below all the tracks within 100 miles that
• 1:41:52
  have claimed their listing, right tracks.
• 1:41:56
  And it's totally free marketing there.
• 1:42:00
  You know, 370,000 people have used the site in the last four
• 1:42:04
  years. And the average track listing
• 1:42:07
  has been viewed between 110 to 225 times.
• 1:42:13
  That's 1200 tracks times 200 people who hit a dead end that
• 1:42:20
  didn't get to cross a bridge because there was no link to
• 1:42:22
  click and it cost those tracks nothing, right?
• 1:42:27
  So to me, getting there is getting 50% of those tracks to
• 1:42:32
  realize, oh, you know what, I got to go claim that listing
• 1:42:35
  because I want that bridge to work for me because people are
• 1:42:39
  coming to the site to use it. 3700 people or 3100 people use
• 1:42:43
  the site last week alone to search for racing or race dates.
• 1:42:46
  You know, you think about that. That doesn't sound like a big
• 1:42:49
  number, but 3100 people, if you get 20% of those to come to a
• 1:42:54
  track in a week, that's 66120 people. 600, yeah, 620 people.
• 1:43:01
  The average person who comes to a track brings two or three
• 1:43:06
  people with them, and that group of people spends 100 bucks.
• 1:43:11
  So 20% of those people who were looking for tracks or looking
• 1:43:14
  for race dates last week, if they went to a race and brought
• 1:43:18
  that group of three, that's $32,000 in revenue to the 600
• 1:43:24
  tracks that they go to, right? And that's, you know, so that's,
• 1:43:28
  that's the whole thing for me is helping, helping the grassroots
• 1:43:32
  world realize that it's not all either I'm empty or I've got an
• 1:43:38
  eve of destruction, that there's a middle ground in there, right?
• 1:43:41
  And Greg Mccarth has actually talked about this.
• 1:43:43
  He's like, OK, everybody like, like, yeah, 345600 people in the
• 1:43:47
  stands. You know what?
• 1:43:48
  You're happy with that? You're happy with that.
• 1:43:50
  You know, how do you get the next 10?
• 1:43:52
  How do you get the next 20? Because the biggest thing is the
• 1:43:57
  new fans who come and then post it on their Facebook page, then
• 1:44:03
  their friends that they've got 2 or 300 of them and you know,
• 1:44:06
  whatever, they're going to see that they were at Kalamazoo
• 1:44:09
  Speedway and they're going to see Kalamazoo Speedway tagged.
• 1:44:12
  And they're going to be like, oh, what's that?
• 1:44:13
  And they're going to go and they're going to look at it and
• 1:44:15
  they're like, hey, maybe we should try that some night.
• 1:44:16
  Maybe we should have a family night out or whatever.
• 1:44:18
  So it's, it's, it's helping the industry.
• 1:44:22
  And I think we started with this, right?
• 1:44:23
  So maybe we go kind of full circle is helping the industry
• 1:44:26
  cross that divide to understanding how to get those
• 1:44:32
  new fans in one at a time and realizing that there's value in
• 1:44:37
  one new fan at a time. And I think that's the hardest
• 1:44:41
  thing because the financial restraints or constraints the
• 1:44:45
  tracks operate under, you know, when you think about it from the
• 1:44:50
  big picture, 1 fan here, 1 fan there, it feels like it doesn't
• 1:44:54
  make a big difference. But if you get 5 new fans each
• 1:44:58
  night for a 15 race night, you're talking about another
• 1:45:01
  $20,000 in revenue for the year, right?
• 1:45:04
  So it's just, it's that whole thing of, of trying to think
• 1:45:08
  about the bigger picture because obviously there's a lot of,
• 1:45:11
  there's a lot of pressure on tracks right now, especially
• 1:45:15
  with the costs of racing to make sure they're getting as much of
• 1:45:18
  the back gate as possible 'cause that's where that's where a lot
• 1:45:21
  of the money comes in is the, is the pit fees and the number of
• 1:45:23
  racers and the number of people they bring as crew and family or
• 1:45:26
  whatever who are paying the, the higher dollar, the pit fee.
• 1:45:30
  But the front gate, you can't forget about the front gate.
• 1:45:34
  So I think, what does success look to me like to me #1 it
• 1:45:37
  means more tracks claiming their listings.
• 1:45:41
  It's free, it's 5 minutes, make the bridge work.
• 1:45:45
  And then it's also helping tracks just get to the point
• 1:45:50
  where they're like, OK, I got to at least put equal effort into
• 1:45:54
  front and back and try and figure out a way to do that
• 1:45:57
  right? And it's not easy and there's
• 1:46:01
  lots of ideas that people can come up with.
• 1:46:03
  And Drew, you mentioned this earlier, it's like, but there's
• 1:46:05
  still, it's like, how do you get that done when you just don't
• 1:46:07
  have the people, right? Who knows?
• 1:46:10
  Find the best damn car dealer at the local used car shop who
• 1:46:13
  sells the most cars and tell him you'll give him 5 bucks for
• 1:46:16
  every ticket he sells in a week. I guarantee he's going to go out
• 1:46:19
  and sell a crap ton of tickets. That's not a bad idea.
• 1:46:23
  No, I mean, it's every, every town has salespeople in it,
• 1:46:27
  right? I mean, sales is the, is the
• 1:46:29
  biggest industry in the world, right?
• 1:46:31
  And, and there's, there's a ton of people who are amazing
• 1:46:34
  salespeople who are, you know, just used to selling what they
• 1:46:36
  selling. Who knows, you know what, maybe
• 1:46:38
  they get them to sell some tickets and give them some
• 1:46:42
  Commission on them. You know, get those people there
• 1:46:44
  once and then you take over. Obviously the, the, the biggest
• 1:46:47
  question I ask every promoter is if a new person comes to your
• 1:46:51
  track, are you confident that they're going to see an
• 1:46:57
  experience and experience something that they're going to
• 1:47:00
  want to come back to? Because that's what it comes
• 1:47:02
  back to, right, Is if if a person comes and they put in the
• 1:47:08
  energy to come and then they feel like, oh, that was kind of
• 1:47:10
  a let down. Yeah.
• 1:47:11
  I mean, that's that you can't, you know, that's, that's on the
• 1:47:14
  facility and the venue and the entertainment factor.
• 1:47:16
  But I think promoters work really hard at what they do, and
• 1:47:21
  I think they work a lot harder than anybody, even fathoms how
• 1:47:24
  hard they work. And I honestly, I can be a
• 1:47:29
  pretty tough critic, right? I haven't been to a track that I
• 1:47:33
  haven't had a good time at. Have I occasionally been like,
• 1:47:37
  oh man, that break was too long or, you know, this is too.
• 1:47:40
  Yeah, it happens. But I'm a pretty forgiving guy
• 1:47:43
  too. I'm like, yeah, y'all go get
• 1:47:45
  another hot dog, go get another beer.
• 1:47:48
  I'll go do another lap of the pits or whatever and take more
• 1:47:50
  pictures to post. But it's, it's just one of those
• 1:47:54
  things of, you know, realize that what we do is, is a lot of
• 1:48:01
  fun to people who might not have ever seen it before, right?
• 1:48:05
  Like, like get some people there who've never seen it and they're
• 1:48:08
  not looking at it through your lens.
• 1:48:09
  They're looking at it through their lens.
• 1:48:12
  And, and if and if we can get people to kind of step back a
• 1:48:14
  little bit and realize that, wait, that lens is a lot less
• 1:48:17
  critical. It's a lot less judgy.
• 1:48:20
  And they're like, Oh my God, look at those cars and and the
• 1:48:24
  core loyal races are like, oh man, that was just way too
• 1:48:26
  spread out, right. That was a horrible race.
• 1:48:30
  And then, you know, and then the non critical fan, the one who's
• 1:48:35
  never been there before is like, Oh my God, that one's catching
• 1:48:37
  up. Look, he always catching up a
• 1:48:38
  little bit on that lap. And so it's just a different
• 1:48:41
  perspective, I think. Well, in this past Friday at
• 1:48:44
  Kalamazoo, we had someone who came from California, they're on
• 1:48:47
  a trip, they're just kind of driving and going different
• 1:48:50
  places and they don't have race tracks in the area anymore.
• 1:48:53
  They keep closing, they keep getting whatever may be.
• 1:48:55
  So they're just so excited to be at a racetrack.
• 1:48:57
  And I know a few years ago because of my race day coverage
• 1:49:02
  also at Kalamazoo, we had a dad drive all the way from South
• 1:49:05
  Carolina on three Red Bulls from he was an Army veteran, brought
• 1:49:10
  his son to the races for the first time ever drove all the
• 1:49:13
  way from South Carolina just because of the my videos.
• 1:49:17
  He's like, I watch your videos I saw and I'm like, I need to
• 1:49:19
  bring my son to this racetrack. And so you just never know the
• 1:49:23
  reach writer. You never know who you're
• 1:49:24
  bringing to the track for the first time, but I thought that
• 1:49:27
  was pretty cool to have someone from California come out.
• 1:49:29
  Not that was not because of me. They're they're the South
• 1:49:32
  Carolina one was, but that one just because they're on a trip,
• 1:49:35
  they're in a camper and they stayed on the property overnight
• 1:49:38
  and we're going to see what else they could find in the area.
• 1:49:40
  So it's like you just never know who, what, when, where, when, or
• 1:49:43
  how. There are two kids.
• 1:49:47
  There are two kids that just having me sitting to the right
• 1:49:49
  of the tower at New Paris Saturday, and I was already down
• 1:49:52
  there watching them get fired up during hot laps.
• 1:49:54
  It just so happened that they had already been chosen to do
• 1:49:57
  the command to start the Hornet features as the featured class
• 1:50:00
  of the week. So it happened to be their first
• 1:50:02
  time at the racetrack and they got to fire the engines and the
• 1:50:05
  two Hornet features. So cool memory that lasts them.
• 1:50:08
  Yeah, they're pretty fired up. No, but it's OK.
• 1:50:12
  Give me 10 seconds. I'm going to run in the other
• 1:50:14
  room and grab a picture. I want to show you guys.
• 1:50:16
  Give me 10 seconds. Talk amongst yourselves.
• 1:50:18
  I'll be right back with the picture.
• 1:50:20
  Now we can start talking about him.
• 1:50:22
  I can hear you still. I can hear that.
• 1:50:24
  Jen, he's got the earbuds tracks.
• 1:50:26
  Not a good content and I hope people that you come back and
• 1:50:29
  watch this, do watch this portion of it and how important
• 1:50:32
  it is and how hard, not just the marketing people work the track
• 1:50:36
  promoters, the drivers to get to the racetrack.
• 1:50:39
  It's a team effort and I think a lot of people forget that all
• 1:50:42
  the time. Yeah, so here's a picture and
• 1:50:44
  this and this reinforces what it's about memory and
• 1:50:48
  experience, right? I took this picture at Daytona
• 1:50:52
  International Speedway, the first Daytona 500 I went to.
• 1:50:56
  And and they do something before races that have a lot of tracks
• 1:51:01
  do when they bring cars out and let people walk around the cars.
• 1:51:03
  They let people walk on the track and sign the start finish
• 1:51:06
  line, right? So this is a picture that I took
• 1:51:11
  I got it. I got to turn off I got to turn
• 1:51:13
  off the background feature. I think I can turn that off.
• 1:51:18
  You're not going to see much, trust me.
• 1:51:21
  Virtual background none there we go all right, see look at that.
• 1:51:25
  It's like clear. All right, So let me turn off
• 1:51:28
  the the ring light here. There we go.
• 1:51:32
  So this is a picture of a family of four.
• 1:51:37
  Let me see how we There we go here.
• 1:51:38
  We go all right. So they are signing the start
• 1:51:42
  finish line in 2005 at the Daytona 500.
• 1:51:45
  Look at that. One's a Jeff Gordon fan, one's a
• 1:51:48
  Tony Stewart fan, one's a Ryan Newman fan, and one's a a Jimmy
• 1:51:51
  Johnson fan, right? They all got their own gear on.
• 1:51:55
  And that was like, that hit me like racing is a family thing,
• 1:52:00
  right? That's, and I think that
• 1:52:03
  grassroots race tracks, they are 100% about family, right?
• 1:52:09
  You know, and, and, and you think about, you know, Kyle
• 1:52:12
  Busch, God rest his soul and everything that happens at
• 1:52:14
  Millbridge and all the, the racing families at Millbridge
• 1:52:16
  with, you know, Braxton and, and all the kids down there who race
• 1:52:20
  in the families. Now that's a, that's a higher
• 1:52:21
  level with NASCAR and all that other stuff.
• 1:52:23
  But that's every track, right? Every track is about families.
• 1:52:28
  I posted a picture on on our Facebook page earlier this week.
• 1:52:34
  The right to race thing is coming up in Kutztown,
• 1:52:37
  Pennsylvania in action Track, USA.
• 1:52:39
  So they had a, a bunch of people or a local, they had a meeting
• 1:52:43
  because someone is raising a ruckus about the fact that it's
• 1:52:45
  in the middle of town and and it's a lot of noise.
• 1:52:49
  I went back and I did a, a track visit there in 2014 and it was
• 1:52:53
  literally it was AI think it was a Midget of some sort, or maybe
• 1:52:59
  it was a modified or something. But the father was in the in the
• 1:53:02
  car getting ready to race. His son, who's about 5 or 6
• 1:53:06
  years old, maybe 7 was standing outside like handing him
• 1:53:09
  something and then the the driver's father-in-law.
• 1:53:13
  So we had three generations of a family there was like standing
• 1:53:17
  back watching over. And it's like that's, that's
• 1:53:20
  what grassroots racing is. But that's also, I mean, that's
• 1:53:23
  the same thing as youth soccer. You know, there's a there's a
• 1:53:27
  father and a son who've who've played and, you know,
• 1:53:29
  grandparent watching their kid. So it it's a lot more familial
• 1:53:34
  than than people realize. And I think that that's part of
• 1:53:36
  the power of it is realizing that people are going to have
• 1:53:39
  experiences with their families and they're not going to forget
• 1:53:42
  them. And if and if a track, if a
• 1:53:44
  Kalamazoo, can be the reason there's a place where one of
• 1:53:49
  those memories happens, or an I-96 or a Berlin or wherever it
• 1:53:53
  is. I mean, it could be the old
• 1:53:54
  Bauerty Speedway in Boswell IN where I went and saw a race
• 1:53:57
  years ago before it it stopped racing.
• 1:54:01
  If you can be the place that that gets that memory to happen
• 1:54:04
  for a family and has a good time, they're going to want to
• 1:54:06
  do it again. Right.
• 1:54:08
  And that's the goal, right? You.
• 1:54:10
  Better create those memories or you're going to be on the hoodoo
• 1:54:13
  stories of the past. Yeah, on the website with
• 1:54:19
  absolutely no wall behind, you see this like whoa.
• 1:54:21
  But not. Just after staring at the track
• 1:54:27
  the whole time, I'm like, now this kind of feels a little
• 1:54:29
  different, you know? I'm like, I don't know, you
• 1:54:34
  look. Like you've ascended kind.
• 1:54:40
  Of like that Oh. Man, and we're almost like you
• 1:54:42
  could probably do like see you all.
• 1:54:52
  That's that's technology like, you know, they didn't have that
• 1:54:55
  20 years. Ago.
• 1:54:59
  Do a lot of damage in a way. You can tell me stories with
• 1:55:01
  that wall just, you know, and killer clowns from outer space,
• 1:55:07
  you know, the, you know, the hand puppet things and all that.
• 1:55:11
  Just no eating stuff with them. But but yeah, no, that was, I
• 1:55:16
  mean, I don't have a fancy stuff like that.
• 1:55:17
  I can't do that kind of stuff. I I'm I'm a little slightly
• 1:55:20
  jealous of a wall like that. But other than that, I mean,
• 1:55:24
  well, like I said, Buju's wall changes every single time.
• 1:55:27
  So I would have to look at. That that just means I have too
• 1:55:29
  much stuff I'm. Like what did you do this time?
• 1:55:31
  It literally was lined with cars the last time and that was less
• 1:55:33
  than a week, but there's. A different room, to be fair.
• 1:55:38
  Oh, that is right. That is true.
• 1:55:39
  Yeah, this. Garage.
• 1:55:40
  That was basement, yeah. But I know Scott, you were able
• 1:55:43
  to help me earlier. We do have the Monday night
• 1:55:45
  rewind and I also believe you said the Thursday night throttle
• 1:55:47
  that are can also now be found on get in the stands.com so or
• 1:55:51
  close to something. So we, I started this thing
• 1:55:55
  about a year and a half ago, two years ago, and I call it the
• 1:55:58
  Gits Garage. And if you go to get in the
• 1:56:02
  stands.com and there's a, there's a, a thing up there that
• 1:56:04
  says the Gets garage. And honestly, I created it as a
• 1:56:07
  place where any grass roots podcaster can get their own
• 1:56:11
  page. It's totally free.
• 1:56:14
  They make the page, we give them the header or whatever.
• 1:56:18
  And it it's, it's a matter of just getting your posts exposed
• 1:56:24
  in another place. And you know what?
• 1:56:28
  You don't. So, yeah, go to the Gets garage
• 1:56:30
  there. So there's the list of all the
• 1:56:34
  the content creators. Oh, yeah, there's no you got to
• 1:56:38
  sign up your name. Come on, man.
• 1:56:40
  Come on, Lewis. My God.
• 1:56:42
  Now. It's a headache messed.
• 1:56:44
  It. Up.
• 1:56:48
  Hold on. So.
• 1:56:48
  If you scroll, if you Scroll down, you'll find.
• 1:56:50
  If you Scroll down, you'll find yours.
• 1:56:52
  It's coming. It'll come out.
• 1:56:53
  They they come up in a different order every time.
• 1:56:55
  There's no method or madness, but there's a little bit of a of
• 1:56:58
  a thing there. And honestly, we just give a
• 1:57:00
  little bit of a description about all of them.
• 1:57:01
  But if you Scroll down, just click on podcast there.
• 1:57:08
  Oh, you got a Capital One card, huh?
• 1:57:09
  Oh, there. We go save this again.
• 1:57:11
  Don't worry about it. There you go.
• 1:57:14
  Put your information on the screen.
• 1:57:19
  Basically what we're doing is, you know, you just click that
• 1:57:21
  and that's that's that's your Monday Night Rewind episode 17
• 1:57:26
  and you know it, it should open, it should open the actual
• 1:57:30
  podcast. And you know, that's the whole
• 1:57:32
  idea is just, you know, that's the place where people can
• 1:57:35
  listen to it if they want. Or you know what the bottom line
• 1:57:38
  is? I mean, you get credit for the
• 1:57:39
  views when people watch that. It's the YouTube, It's just an
• 1:57:42
  embed. We're not we're not uploading
• 1:57:45
  anything. The biggest thing is just that
• 1:57:48
  gets garage page where we want to just let people know where
• 1:57:52
  they can find tons of different. There's 11 right now.
• 1:57:56
  I mean tons, right? Anybody who's got a podcast or a
• 1:58:00
  video cast or whatever, they can, they can, you know, ask for
• 1:58:06
  a page and I'll make it for them and then I'll teach them how to
• 1:58:08
  upload their content every week. You know, it's just it literally
• 1:58:11
  once the first one's done, you just clone it and then change
• 1:58:14
  the embed code every week and the title.
• 1:58:17
  And it's easy to do. But but yeah, it's so if I think
• 1:58:22
  about what get in the stands is, is, you know, there's this,
• 1:58:26
  there's this phrase out there called the single source of
• 1:58:29
  truth. Well, who knows whether it's
• 1:58:30
  true or not, but it's a single source of stuff, right?
• 1:58:34
  All related to grassroots racing.
• 1:58:35
  So there you go. You got the Michigan track map
• 1:58:39
  and you got them all listed. And then up above there
• 1:58:43
  actually, since people are watching this, click the little
• 1:58:45
  globe and the, and to the right of the sort results.
• 1:58:48
  And that's where people can actually see the map.
• 1:58:50
  And that map is, you know, you can scroll around and then, you
• 1:58:54
  know, you can zoom in with the tools in the bottom right.
• 1:58:57
  And so they're all there. We got, we got some, we got some
• 1:59:01
  motocross tracks, you know, you name it, we got it.
• 1:59:04
  That's not too far from me. That's why I was saying that
• 1:59:06
  with Red Bud, you know, because Red Bud weekend is coming up.
• 1:59:10
  I think what, two weeks from now?
• 1:59:11
  I think it's usually July 4th weekend.
• 1:59:13
  They have the Red Bud. That's, I mean, it's it's
• 1:59:16
  nationally known because of just the dedicated fans.
• 1:59:19
  Yeah. And as you can see, whether
• 1:59:22
  obviously that's not a claim track, but you know, if if you
• 1:59:25
  go back that the, you know, actually go ahead and click on
• 1:59:30
  on any one of those other, other tracks there and we'll show
• 1:59:32
  people what the difference is between a claim track and an
• 1:59:35
  unclaimed track. So, you know, click on Auto City
• 1:59:38
  or Hartford. Yeah, there you go.
• 1:59:40
  So they get a nice header image, they get their logo, they wow,
• 1:59:43
  they don't have their phone number on there.
• 1:59:45
  They got their website, their links and everything.
• 1:59:46
  So if somebody's look, you know, if somebody comes across
• 1:59:49
  Hartford Speedway, the goal is to get them there.
• 1:59:52
  You know, there's been. Donnie's phone number on there,
• 1:59:54
  so he's getting calls for Hartford and Gilsburg.
• 1:59:59
  If there's one, these are verified.
• 2:00:00
  So let's let's click on another one just to kind of see, let's
• 2:00:04
  go to oh, not claimed. So this even says not claimed
• 2:00:07
  yet. Yep.
• 2:00:08
  So basically what happens if you Scroll down, it'll tell people
• 2:00:11
  the kind of track it is. It's a 716 mile asphalt Oval.
• 2:00:14
  It gives the address, you know, and then the above it, there's
• 2:00:20
  the Google map so you can get the Google directions.
• 2:00:22
  You know, we want people to find tracks, but you know it, it
• 2:00:25
  would literally take the staff at Berlin to click that green
• 2:00:29
  button underneath their, their track name.
• 2:00:31
  It would take them less than 5 minutes to claim that listing.
• 2:00:35
  And and and it's easy to do. And then there, as you said,
• 2:00:40
  there would be like more info, you know, here it isn't, you
• 2:00:43
  know. So that social share is just
• 2:00:46
  like you hit that share button and that's going to share it to
• 2:00:48
  your social profile or whatever. You know, that's so that that
• 2:00:52
  and race fans actually do share a lot of profiles.
• 2:00:57
  So yeah, it's, you know, it's it's East Lansing cart track is
• 2:01:03
  there. Oh, there's Kalamazoo Speedway.
• 2:01:05
  Yeah, unclaimed. Springport.
• 2:01:06
  Unclaimed. Anyway, so, you know, I
• 2:01:12
  appreciate you guys having me on.
• 2:01:14
  It's, it's, I always love to, to spread the word about getting in
• 2:01:17
  the stands, but I also hope it doesn't get so dry that like
• 2:01:20
  people are like, Oh my God, we're just talking about
• 2:01:22
  grassroots marketing or whatever.
• 2:01:23
  But you know, I, I truly do appreciate everything that, that
• 2:01:30
  the promoters and the staff members and the volunteers and
• 2:01:33
  everybody do to, to get this, this sport going.
• 2:01:35
  I know it's, it's just as hard for racers too nowadays with the
• 2:01:38
  economy the way it is, the way rules are evolving.
• 2:01:42
  You know, I, I love the fact that there's this whole Crown
• 2:01:45
  Victoria class thing now. You know, I mean, I, I know
• 2:01:48
  they're probably not as cheap as, as somebody like think they
• 2:01:51
  are, but you know what's going to be the next class?
• 2:01:56
  Somebody told me it's going to be minivans, right?
• 2:02:00
  What? Makes sense?
• 2:02:01
  What is there that's in junk yards?
• 2:02:04
  I mean, God, there were tons of Camaros and my Carlos and
• 2:02:07
  Malibu's and whatever. All those cars that you know,
• 2:02:10
  when I was growing up and Drew, when you were growing up, all
• 2:02:12
  those cars that became the, you know, the stock cars of
• 2:02:14
  yesteryear, right? What are what's the stock car
• 2:02:17
  classes of tomorrow, right? Drew just got his next
• 2:02:21
  travelling series. Yeah, well.
• 2:02:23
  Drew's already next. So monster me.
• 2:02:27
  Man's The Grocery Game series. Drew's Monster Van Tour.
• 2:02:34
  You could stack those suckers. Oh my God.
• 2:02:37
  I'm already figuring out how I'm going to clone myself to New
• 2:02:40
  York next year, but that's another.
• 2:02:42
  Thing what I will say is stay tuned because there may be a
• 2:02:46
  track in Northwest Indiana that may have minivans showing up in
• 2:02:52
  the Hornet class not too long from now.
• 2:02:54
  So we shall see and it's not the one that's behind you.
• 2:02:57
  I can also clarify that. So it's it's deeper into Amish
• 2:03:02
  country than others and so we shall see.
• 2:03:06
  In fact our guest is in next week or two weeks ago or two
• 2:03:10
  weeks from now may have some more information on that so.
• 2:03:12
  Northwestern Indiana. Yeah.
• 2:03:15
  There there actually is a minivan that races in the
• 2:03:17
  Montville Stocks at M40 and he's actually pretty competitive.
• 2:03:21
  Yeah, really. That's partly where the idea
• 2:03:24
  some was come from. I don't want to say all of it,
• 2:03:26
  but they were raised, they were going to race in the night of
• 2:03:29
  the trucks and they thought, why not race it in the Hornet class?
• 2:03:31
  And so, so it's a, it's a trek in Amish country, as I like to
• 2:03:36
  call it. And it's the hottest quarter
• 2:03:39
  mile in the Midwest. So Buju is reckoning, sometimes
• 2:03:44
  announced, sometimes great fans. Yeah.
• 2:03:49
  You really love? It so so when somebody mods out
• 2:03:54
  a a minivan to race on a track, do they take the sliding doors
• 2:03:57
  off and put crash test dummies in the seats so that they're
• 2:04:00
  actually like in the back seat? So.
• 2:04:04
  But then again, you'd probably have to have the seats come out,
• 2:04:06
  who knows, but. It's.
• 2:04:08
  Funny like like like a a minivan with no doors but crash test
• 2:04:13
  dummies or dolls in the seats. We had a these.
• 2:04:16
  Similar questions so I won't say you're too far off, but I went
• 2:04:20
  even well, what's the roll cage that you would use and all these
• 2:04:23
  other things So, so yeah, I've, I've asked similar questions on
• 2:04:27
  what we could do with that. I thought, you know, put a bunch
• 2:04:29
  of soccer moms out there, you know, and let, let them go at
• 2:04:33
  it. But or I, I would call it the
• 2:04:36
  middle school drop off line. That's what I would call it now
• 2:04:38
  is the middle school drop off line.
• 2:04:40
  Soccer moms are not a not as much a thing anymore.
• 2:04:43
  But you say middle school drop off line.
• 2:04:44
  Everybody knows what that will be.
• 2:04:46
  That's very triggering for a lot of people.
• 2:04:47
  So especially middle school parents, so who are part of the,
• 2:04:52
  you know, are like, man, that drop off line, just drop your
• 2:04:54
  kid off and go, they're OK, they're in middle school,
• 2:04:56
  they'll be just fine. So.
• 2:04:59
  No, I just figured out where that is.
• 2:05:01
  I know where it's going to be now.
• 2:05:04
  They actually have their race dates posted again in the
• 2:05:07
  stands. Oh good, I believe.
• 2:05:10
  So for any track that hasn't claimed their spot, how do they
• 2:05:14
  do that? They literally find their track
• 2:05:17
  and underneath the the track name beside where it says track
• 2:05:22
  not yet claimed is a green button that says click here to
• 2:05:26
  claim this listing. And it's.
• 2:05:29
  It's that simple. So we're.
• 2:05:32
  Going to present and then it's right here.
• 2:05:34
  Hey, wait. Claim.
• 2:05:35
  Claim it for him. Put it up.
• 2:05:37
  Put it under Randy Ritchie. Have to claim it in struggles.
• 2:05:43
  That's the that's yeah, that's the one thing.
• 2:05:46
  We've actually had race fans try and claim tracks before.
• 2:05:50
  That's why we asked for a personal phone number, so we can
• 2:05:52
  actually confirm that the person is with a.
• 2:05:54
  Phone number. And we'll be like, who's calling
• 2:05:57
  me? Because believe it or not, and
• 2:06:02
  this goes back to the racing in days, we had people try to claim
• 2:06:06
  tracks that actually then claimed the track before I had
• 2:06:11
  this idea to actually verify it. They actually destroyed the
• 2:06:15
  profile and they like bashed the track.
• 2:06:18
  And then they shared it socially.
• 2:06:19
  And I was like, whoa, you know, I'm glad I caught it the night
• 2:06:23
  that it happened. But it was like, holy cow.
• 2:06:25
  So that was when we we went to, OK, you can claim a track, but
• 2:06:30
  we're going to make sure that you work for the track and that
• 2:06:33
  you are who you say you. Are I'm not seeing national
• 2:06:37
  compact touring series on here? There's a.
• 2:06:39
  Lot of things you probably don't see that I haven't.
• 2:06:42
  Done. There's tons.
• 2:06:43
  There's tons on there that you don't see.
• 2:06:44
  It's just, you know, it's, you know, and suggest the tracker
• 2:06:50
  series, that button on the right there, that's that's where
• 2:06:52
  everything starts. You, you better suggest me
• 2:06:55
  Lewis. I'll get it done.
• 2:06:57
  Oh, I will. I'll.
• 2:06:58
  Put all eight of them in there. I'm.
• 2:07:00
  Doing a little active work, but but I know, Scott, we've kept
• 2:07:04
  you a really long time, but I feel like it's really valuable
• 2:07:08
  because, you know, we we got get in the stands out there more
• 2:07:11
  now, hopefully more. Definitely want everyone to
• 2:07:14
  share this out there. Of course, like the podcast.
• 2:07:17
  But you know, the goal when I reached out to you originally
• 2:07:19
  was like, how can we get, you know, get in stands out there
• 2:07:22
  more, especially just race season was going on and I know
• 2:07:24
  you're traveling at that time. And then your response went to
• 2:07:26
  my spam folder. Figured out why a lot of
• 2:07:29
  responses were going to spam folder.
• 2:07:30
  It was a security setting that I messed up on and I fixed that
• 2:07:33
  really quick. Technology makes everything so
• 2:07:36
  easy, doesn't it? Yeah, well, I've never set up my
• 2:07:38
  own like e-mail and I'm the admin of it.
• 2:07:41
  So like I the whole said click here, click here, click here.
• 2:07:44
  So I'm clicking and apparently I wasn't supposed to click that
• 2:07:47
  even though it said to click that.
• 2:07:48
  So I fixed that. So all of a sudden a couple
• 2:07:51
  responses showed up to other people too.
• 2:07:54
  And I'm like, so you know, I was able to reach back and I
• 2:07:57
  appreciate because we did have a cancellation for 7:40.
• 2:08:00
  So I said, I know it's late notice, but would you be able to
• 2:08:02
  come on? Because I I've been wanting to
• 2:08:04
  get you on to do that. And so I'm really glad that
• 2:08:06
  you're able to fit it in and and hopefully more people know now,
• 2:08:10
  fans, race fans, drivers to I'll show up the graphic one more
• 2:08:13
  time to get in the stands.com turn on lights because now it's
• 2:08:20
  dark in my room, but the sun went down overlake Michigan.
• 2:08:22
  So but get in and this is where you know the bridge you're able
• 2:08:27
  to find and we just showed if you missed it once we're done
• 2:08:30
  being live, you'll be able to go back and you'll you can see
• 2:08:33
  exactly where I clicked. I went and get in sands.com.
• 2:08:35
  We clicked on, I clicked on state maps and clicked Michigan
• 2:08:39
  and, and there's a couple different ways that you can do
• 2:08:41
  that. So you know, if you're looking
• 2:08:43
  for a track or when Buju and I are on the Thursday night
• 2:08:45
  throttle and we're talking about a track and you're like, I don't
• 2:08:48
  know where Tri-City Motor Speedway is now you can go there
• 2:08:51
  and at least see where it is on the map and and put it in.
• 2:08:54
  I mean, I know everyone has Google Maps, but it's it would
• 2:08:57
  be very easy to see the track profile.
• 2:08:58
  Is it semi banked? Is it somewhat, you know, like
• 2:09:00
  what can they expect? And so, so definitely, you know,
• 2:09:05
  visit Scott's put a lot of work into this.
• 2:09:07
  And, and it's free for tracks to claim.
• 2:09:09
  It's free for Sears to claim. It was free for me.
• 2:09:11
  It took, you know, a few minutes while I was waiting for GoPro
• 2:09:14
  support. That's where Scott was messaged
• 2:09:17
  very seriously. I'm like, OK, not seriously
• 2:09:19
  feverishly, right? Or is that the right word?
• 2:09:21
  I don't know. Whatever and I'm like and I'm
• 2:09:25
  with go full support and then I'm, you know, doing this and
• 2:09:28
  editing and so I appreciate you. I mean, you were Johnny on the
• 2:09:31
  spot with responses. So it was, it was coming in
• 2:09:34
  faster than I could even keep up, but I was a little
• 2:09:37
  frustrated with GoPro support by that point, so.
• 2:09:40
  Like, no, that's right. And thank you for doing what you
• 2:09:42
  do. I mean, I, I met you, you know,
• 2:09:45
  I, I think I met Drew for the first time 3 or 4 years ago when
• 2:09:47
  I went to the first MSPA meeting and, and you were probably there
• 2:09:50
  or shortly thereafter. And, you know, whatever the
• 2:09:55
  stuff that you do and the stuff that every every grass roots
• 2:10:00
  content creator does to help get the word out there, I mean,
• 2:10:04
  yeah, is a lot of it landing on the ears of the people who are
• 2:10:07
  already loving it and everything else?
• 2:10:09
  Absolutely. But you know what, that's where
• 2:10:11
  it starts. And then it's it's sharing that
• 2:10:14
  with somebody else. And if you know, and I
• 2:10:16
  appreciate you having me on, but I also appreciate you telling
• 2:10:19
  the stories of the racers because that's, you know,
• 2:10:21
  that's, that's what matters too, is, is, you know, people like
• 2:10:26
  Jalen Brunson because he's a, he seems like a genuinely good guy,
• 2:10:30
  right? And he, he met a kid from, from
• 2:10:34
  the Children's Miracle Network and, and fulfilled his wish like
• 2:10:38
  2 weeks ago. And then the kid ended up
• 2:10:40
  passing away. And he talked about that in his
• 2:10:41
  press conference, you know, before the final game.
• 2:10:44
  But every racer's got a story just like that.
• 2:10:48
  And I think the more we can, we can help help people see, you
• 2:10:54
  know, the person behind the mask, the person under the
• 2:10:57
  helmet and and realize that their neighbor, you know, just
• 2:11:01
  loves to go fast. Right, right.
• 2:11:03
  And they? Hate it when somebody cuts them
• 2:11:04
  off. So you know what?
• 2:11:05
  Sometimes they whip them around too.
• 2:11:07
  Yep, and that's where, you know, New Paris doing their new
• 2:11:11
  program. I was throwing names out when
• 2:11:14
  Chris Mandel, the own one of the owners at New Paris, and I said
• 2:11:17
  showcase, you know, class of the week, and he slept on it and he
• 2:11:22
  called me the next day and he said, So what do you think we
• 2:11:24
  should call this? And I said showcase classes
• 2:11:26
  like, you know what? I woke up thinking the same
• 2:11:28
  thing because we were in the tower throwing around names and
• 2:11:31
  all that because I'm AI, you know, this is something Tracy
• 2:11:35
  has wanted to do because of that exact thing.
• 2:11:38
  You know, them under the helmet. And in fact, it was just that in
• 2:11:41
  the Stevens O Meyer, I was getting ready to go to Kalamazoo
• 2:11:43
  last week. I was already running behind and
• 2:11:46
  I ran into somebody who lives in my town.
• 2:11:48
  I didn't even know they lived in my town.
• 2:11:50
  Their kids go to the district that I used to teach at and and
• 2:11:55
  it was and they, their racer or their racer, their dad's eraser,
• 2:11:59
  very famous names over at Berlin.
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  And, and they weren't in a helmet or anything, so I didn't
• 2:12:05
  recognize them. They weren't in a fire suit.
• 2:12:07
  And I'm like, it's a lot easier for people to know me than it is
• 2:12:10
  for me to always know everybody because it's a very say top row
• 2:12:14
  Lewis, top row Lewis. And I have fans saying hi all
• 2:12:16
  the time. Like I hi, I, you know, tell me
• 2:12:19
  your name and you tell me enough times I'll remember it.
• 2:12:23
  But that's something that I'm just sitting there trying to get
• 2:12:25
  a pop and, you know, comes around the corner and I have
• 2:12:27
  nothing. Oh no, it's last Thursday when I
• 2:12:29
  went to the softball game in East Lansing.
• 2:12:32
  That's what I was on my way to. And he said, are you from top
• 2:12:34
  row? And I went well he watched the
• 2:12:36
  car pull in which has topped all over it.
• 2:12:40
  Nothing top row. I'm wearing 0 things top row and
• 2:12:44
  but recognize me because of the car.
• 2:12:46
  Watch me walk in. And then once he said who he
• 2:12:48
  was. I know who you are now, it's
• 2:12:50
  just you're not in the fire suit or you're not sitting in a car
• 2:12:53
  with a helmet on where I would be able to recognize you.
• 2:12:56
  So. So I definitely think it's those
• 2:12:58
  kind of things of telling the story, peeling the helmet back.
• 2:13:00
  We were just talking about spotlights the other day and I
• 2:13:02
  said always around this time of year, I take that pause because
• 2:13:05
  of the new season. Let's get new stats and
• 2:13:07
  everything, then I can bring that back.
• 2:13:09
  I said usually I bring them back and although everyone's like,
• 2:13:14
  where you going to fit that in? I don't know, we'll figure that
• 2:13:16
  out, but but I definitely always appreciate the stories.
• 2:13:20
  And you know, usually a driver will have one conversation with
• 2:13:23
  me and I can write a whole spotlight on them.
• 2:13:24
  Like how do you remember all that?
• 2:13:26
  If you, if I wrote notes, it'd mean nothing to me, but because
• 2:13:28
  it was a conversation that meant everything.
• 2:13:30
  So I remember conversations. And so, you know, I try to pay
• 2:13:35
  really good attention to them and, and keep all that in my
• 2:13:37
  mind. So, so that's where I definitely
• 2:13:39
  appreciate the stories that you've been able to help tell
• 2:13:41
  about tracks. I know that's how I came across
• 2:13:44
  your page a few years ago. You were visiting some tracks in
• 2:13:47
  the area and just doing video at them.
• 2:13:49
  And, and you know, we that those are the kind of things that we
• 2:13:52
  need because think of how many fans you probably come across.
• 2:13:55
  Like, that track's still open. Didn't even know that was there,
• 2:13:58
  you know? And so again, that's where if
• 2:14:01
  you ever feel that way, I'll show the graphic one more time.
• 2:14:04
  You know, go to get in the stands.com and there's some
• 2:14:07
  tracks on that listing in Michigan.
• 2:14:08
  And I'm like, I didn't know that was a thing.
• 2:14:10
  I didn't know that was a thing. And I live in Michigan now.
• 2:14:13
  Their fairness, some of them are really far away from me when I
• 2:14:16
  looked at the map. So I'm like, that's probably why
• 2:14:18
  I don't know it, but, you know, get there, see the track
• 2:14:22
  scenario, see what's going on, get their schedules.
• 2:14:24
  And if they're not claimed yet by that track, encourage someone
• 2:14:27
  at that track to go and claim it.
• 2:14:29
  And as Scott said, it's absolutely free.
• 2:14:31
  It cost them nothing but 5 to 10 minutes of time.
• 2:14:34
  It took me, I think 7 minutes total to do my listing.
• 2:14:39
  And that's just because I was also with GoPro support.
• 2:14:41
  But I clicked the link and you know, I was going through that
• 2:14:44
  and I had to pick a cover photo, you know, and then it wasn't
• 2:14:48
  fitting. I'm like, I'll come back to it
• 2:14:49
  later. Looks wonky, but I'll fix it
• 2:14:51
  later and not much time to do. And then you get to be in those
• 2:14:56
  search results. So definitely take advantage of
• 2:14:58
  it. But like I said, I know we've
• 2:15:00
  kept you a while now, so any. Not a problem.
• 2:15:03
  Any last words or anything good for the group?
• 2:15:06
  No, just, you know, thank you for having me.
• 2:15:10
  Thank you you guys for, for doing what you do.
• 2:15:12
  And I mean, I without you guys doing what you do, there'd be no
• 2:15:15
  need for me. So, you know, thank you for
• 2:15:19
  that. And and my other thing and, and
• 2:15:21
  I think you, this is you guys. Did you guys watch the fart
• 2:15:24
  thing? Barf, yeah.
• 2:15:27
  Barf no. What do you guys do?
• 2:15:28
  Fuck. Bring a Roars fan.
• 2:15:31
  I saw that today. That's awesome.
• 2:15:33
  Yep, that's my thing. Do the.
• 2:15:35
  Barf be a face fan or or bring a bring a non fan Banff that
• 2:15:40
  doesn't work. Bring a non.
• 2:15:44
  Oh, a new fan. Bring a I'll have.
• 2:15:47
  I'll think of something with it. Maybe I'll think of something.
• 2:15:49
  Bring a rookie fan. Bring a rookie fan.
• 2:15:52
  Bring a rookie fan. Oh yeah, still barf.
• 2:15:54
  But yeah that's where I keep telling people.
• 2:15:56
  Like if Mean Girls. Can.
• 2:15:58
  Make, I'm going to try to make a barf work.
• 2:15:59
  And so, and that's where it's like, you know, I, I now have
• 2:16:03
  bumper stickers on my website and everything's 40% off until
• 2:16:07
  tomorrow morning. So it's like, you know, go get a
• 2:16:09
  barf sticker, put it on there and make people look twice.
• 2:16:12
  And I said, that's why I came up with it because I was watching
• 2:16:15
  something they were talking about Bogo and I new pairs
• 2:16:18
  challenged me with a task of creating some promotional things
• 2:16:21
  for them. And so I'm, you know, typing up
• 2:16:23
  this huge document and, and I'm like, what can I do with BOGO?
• 2:16:27
  Everyone does BOGO. Bogo's not that interesting.
• 2:16:30
  And, and so I googled, you know, different things to see, you
• 2:16:35
  know, is this claimed? Is this claimed?
• 2:16:37
  Is this claimed? And, you know, once I start
• 2:16:40
  coming up with some acronyms. And so barf wasn't a thing
• 2:16:43
  anywhere. And I'm like, well, I'm going to
• 2:16:44
  make it, you know, tongue in cheek, right?
• 2:16:48
  Because if, if I say, man, that racing action just made me want
• 2:16:51
  to barf last night, you're going to get people to go wait, what?
• 2:16:54
  They want to hear it again. And then I said, now you're
• 2:16:58
  hooked. And now you got the thing.
• 2:17:00
  Because they, they, they have to think twice of what you just
• 2:17:04
  said. And so I said, that's marketing.
• 2:17:07
  If you can, sometimes if you can get people to look at something
• 2:17:10
  twice or make something, you know, like, I mean, think of how
• 2:17:13
  many cookie creations or cupcake creations, you go to some
• 2:17:15
  bakeries and you're like, wait, what did they do?
• 2:17:18
  And then you walk out with, you know, walk out with one because
• 2:17:20
  you want to know what does that taste like?
• 2:17:21
  And you know, so that was, that was kind of the intent behind
• 2:17:25
  it. So I'm going to come up with
• 2:17:26
  different graphics as I this week, as my goal is to create a
• 2:17:30
  few different ones. So it's not the same one all the
• 2:17:32
  time, but it's definitely there's some people who are
• 2:17:35
  already into it and making it a thing.
• 2:17:37
  So like, let's just make it a thing.
• 2:17:39
  And but I'm like, if I see other people stealing and I know
• 2:17:42
  exactly where they got it from because TikTok in fairness, but
• 2:17:47
  Facebook and all these other places, it did not come up in
• 2:17:49
  the search search at all. And I went, all right, we're
• 2:17:52
  going to make that a thing. So, and Chris and Tracy just
• 2:17:55
  absolutely ate it up, no pun, you know, so that's from all
• 2:17:59
  right, let's do the thing. So yeah, that that we had
• 2:18:03
  Kalamazoo was the first track to do 2 tickets and the, the people
• 2:18:06
  did cash them in. They went and got them and so I
• 2:18:09
  plan to talk with Hartford about it.
• 2:18:11
  I plan to talk with M40 about it.
• 2:18:13
  Drew suggested Winston and a few others where my goal is to make
• 2:18:18
  it even a weekend combo where you can go to Kalamazoo on
• 2:18:20
  Friday night with two tickets. And then maybe you go to, maybe
• 2:18:25
  you go to New Paris on Saturday or maybe it's Hartford and M40
• 2:18:29
  or you know, maybe Owosso gets in there or someone else gets in
• 2:18:34
  and not make it the same package all the time, but try to change
• 2:18:37
  it up a little bit. And whether I have to buy the
• 2:18:40
  tickets or track supplies the tickets, you know, I'm like, if
• 2:18:44
  I'm talking about it, let's, I got to do my part.
• 2:18:46
  And so my part is let's put 2 tickets out there and you know,
• 2:18:50
  it's your role, then it's their job to claim them, right?
• 2:18:53
  If I'm providing them show up. And what we did is I had Boojie
• 2:18:57
  make the wheel for me since I was going to be late, and we
• 2:19:00
  drew 33 names because if one person wasn't going to claim it
• 2:19:03
  or show up, we were going to give it to the next person until
• 2:19:05
  we got success. Let's use these tickets.
• 2:19:09
  So yeah, hopefully we can continue to make it a thing and
• 2:19:12
  it builds. Actually, I'm, I'm writing a
• 2:19:15
  post right now. I just found the stickers on
• 2:19:17
  your website. Gonna throw.
• 2:19:19
  Does great racing make you wanna barf?
• 2:19:21
  I want you to bring a race fan and I'm gonna throw it up there
• 2:19:24
  and, and get that image up there for you.
• 2:19:26
  And we're gonna see if we can get people to barf this weekend.
• 2:19:29
  I hope so. Bark anywhere, everywhere can
• 2:19:33
  like have a great fan on Friday said.
• 2:19:34
  As long as you bark to the right, because the drivers were
• 2:19:36
  going to the left. So, you know, 'cause when you
• 2:19:40
  get in a ride, they say you have to bark, bark this direction.
• 2:19:42
  So that's one of those things that we're going to make it a
• 2:19:45
  thing one way or another. But I definitely appreciate that
• 2:19:49
  too, 'cause it gets it, gets it out there, right?
• 2:19:51
  And so, you know, hopefully people, fans, not just people,
• 2:19:55
  but race fans start doing it. Bring someone new, bring someone
• 2:19:57
  different. But yeah, definitely it's a
• 2:20:00
  campaign that I'm I'm investing myself into, so.
• 2:20:04
  It's awesome. Again, it'll make people look
• 2:20:08
  twice and that is kind of the goal is what will make him look
• 2:20:10
  twice. And I thought barf, you know,
• 2:20:13
  why not? And sometimes barf makes people
• 2:20:16
  giggle. So you know, like maybe they'll,
• 2:20:18
  they'll be very cheerful and happy, right?
• 2:20:21
  I the other one I was going to come up with was going to be
• 2:20:23
  something with fart and I thought, Nah, that might be a
• 2:20:26
  little too far. And you know, so I didn't do
• 2:20:29
  that one, but I was trying to come up with an algorithm for or
• 2:20:31
  not algorithm acronym for that one too.
• 2:20:34
  But I, you know, doesn't this racing action just make you, you
• 2:20:37
  know, it's like Taco Bell, right?
• 2:20:39
  Everybody knows it what happens to the Taco Bell?
• 2:20:41
  So it doesn't racing action just make you want to whatever,
• 2:20:45
  right. So.
• 2:20:46
  I think it's awesome. Parf is where we landed, but but
• 2:20:49
  again, Scott, thank you again so much for your time tonight.
• 2:20:52
  Thank you for sharing that out too.
• 2:20:54
  I'll be sure to share that post. That way you know, everyone can,
• 2:20:57
  you know, even go to get in the stands and hopefully follow it
• 2:20:59
  if they're not already. You know what, Let's sell some
• 2:21:03
  bumper stickers for crying out loud.
• 2:21:04
  That's what racing is, right? We got to got to sell stuff, for
• 2:21:07
  crying out loud. And it's 40% off automatically.
• 2:21:10
  It's they don't even have to type in a discount.
• 2:21:12
  It's literally they just put it in the automatically 40% off.
• 2:21:16
  It's the Monday Night Rewind discount so.
• 2:21:19
  Beautiful, put it. On the card and buy it.
• 2:21:21
  So again, thank you so much for that too.
• 2:21:24
  Drew, I'm going to come out. I I got to double check my
• 2:21:26
  schedule, but I think I'm going to be at Kalamazoo for the
• 2:21:28
  Stackers. I got to see that.
• 2:21:30
  If you get with Lewis, we'll make sure you get in.
• 2:21:33
  Unfortunately, I will be at another venue that night.
• 2:21:36
  Oh man. But I got to tell you something
• 2:21:40
  there. They're not getting rid of what
• 2:21:43
  we do. They're just retiring some of
• 2:21:45
  our fleet that's overdue to be retired.
• 2:21:47
  So instead of doing a school bus race, they're going to do a
• 2:21:49
  school bus demolition Derby. They're going to do a stack of
• 2:21:52
  car Derby. Lewis's race from New Paris.
• 2:21:56
  Whoever invented that? The Pac-Man race is really
• 2:21:58
  entertaining. And then they're doing a cow
• 2:22:03
  tipping that looks kind of cool. Nice.
• 2:22:07
  So are the are the are the stackers going to actually race
• 2:22:09
  laps that night before they do the demo Derby?
• 2:22:12
  I honestly I don't think they have enough power to do that.
• 2:22:15
  They probably just have enough power to destroy each other.
• 2:22:17
  Just. Have fun, have fun.
• 2:22:19
  So awesome. But thank.
• 2:22:23
  You guys for having me? Kenny Hat and his group and
• 2:22:25
  Donnie are putting a great effort into that, so I think
• 2:22:29
  you'll have a good time, yeah. So let me know if you're coming
• 2:22:31
  and we'll make sure to get you in for sure.
• 2:22:34
  Absolutely. Well.
• 2:22:35
  All right. Well, just to remind everyone
• 2:22:37
  again, we've been talking with Scott Kozak from
• 2:22:39
  getinthestands.com. So if you've not been to the
• 2:22:42
  website, definitely favorite it. You can find tracks anywhere and
• 2:22:44
  everywhere. So again, Scott, thank you so
• 2:22:48
  much for joining us tonight. Buju, thank you again for
• 2:22:50
  another awesome show is packed between you and Colin.
• 2:22:54
  You know, lots of information out there.
• 2:22:56
  Then of course, Drew, we don't get to see Drew too often.
• 2:22:58
  You know, he's busy, but this is one of his kind of not super
• 2:23:02
  busy week so far. But by tomorrow it'll change.
• 2:23:04
  He'll be busy again. But.
• 2:23:08
  He didn't realize he was getting into a 2 1/2 hour gig tonight
• 2:23:11
  either. Oh, I know.
• 2:23:16
  That's all good. What's?
• 2:23:17
  Nice is it hasn't felt that way because.
• 2:23:19
  No, definitely not. That's when you look at the time
• 2:23:23
  you're like, holy cow, it's already 922 for us.
• 2:23:25
  And I think you're at what, 822 still.
• 2:23:28
  So you we've already lived at 8:00 hour.
• 2:23:30
  You're just now living it for us.
• 2:23:31
  But again, Scott, thank you so much.
• 2:23:34
  And while you're on, I do want to remind everyone that Thursday
• 2:23:36
  Night Throttle once again returns this Thursday night at
• 2:23:39
  7:00 PM. Buju and I will preview the
• 2:23:41
  upcoming weekend of events around the area.
• 2:23:44
  And then also don't forget, as Scott was just talking about,
• 2:23:47
  let's maybe sell some bumper stickers.
• 2:23:48
  So if you want to barf or show people that you barf 40% off on
• 2:23:52
  all orders, all you have to do is literally add it to your cart
• 2:23:55
  and that's it. The discount automatically
• 2:23:57
  applies and it's Topper Race media.toprowracingmedia.com/store
• 2:24:03
  takes, Apple Pay, whatever you have it, it takes.
• 2:24:06
  And then you've been watching the Monday Night Rewind where
• 2:24:09
  once again, we'll we'll be back on next Monday night at 7:00 PM.
• 2:24:13
  One of the guests who we will have will be KTS Kalamazoo Track
• 2:24:17
  Services, Joe Schaefer and maybe a guest or two to talk to talk
• 2:24:21
  track safety and what it is to be on a track safety team.
• 2:24:24
  So I'm excited to have the KTS team as part of the Monday Night
• 2:24:27
  Rewind next week. Not sure quite on time yet.
• 2:24:30
  It'll be seven O 5 or 740. Waiting for my other guests to
• 2:24:34
  confirm which slot they would like.
• 2:24:36
  But otherwise, we will have the Monday Nights Rewind with
• 2:24:38
  Kalamazoo Track Services joining us.
• 2:24:41
  And then the week after we turn the focus big time on the new
• 2:24:45
  Paris Night of Destruction that will be coming up on July 3rd
• 2:24:48
  with a couple Night of Destruction competitors coming
• 2:24:50
  on to talk about why they do what they do and the show that
• 2:24:53
  they're looking forward to put on at the new Paris Speedway.
• 2:24:56
  So again, just before we sign off, I'm Lewis the Topper Racing
• 2:25:00
  media. We're finishing with Scott Kozak
• 2:25:02
  from getinstands.com, Drew Jack with the national compact
• 2:25:05
  touring series, Midwest compact touring series, Great Lakes
• 2:25:07
  memorabilia, Great Lakes promotions, race race reach
• 2:25:12
  media. And now the Oh my gosh, I forgot
• 2:25:16
  again what was the Great American pursuit, the Crown VIX
• 2:25:20
  or something like that. I messed it up again twice.
• 2:25:24
  It's new, we're learning it still.
• 2:25:25
  And then of course, Buju with the Bullring Chronicles and
• 2:25:29
  sometimes host of the Monday Night Rewind.
• 2:25:31
  Sometimes host all the weekly now, but sometimes race fan,
• 2:25:35
  sometimes racer. Definitely a historian in his
• 2:25:39
  own right and someone who will be telling the stories of short
• 2:25:41
  track racing for years to come. With that, it's almost time to
• 2:25:45
  turn left and go fast. Because Buju.
• 2:25:48
  We'll see you at the races. We'll see everyone at the races
• 2:25:51
  again. Thank you, Scott, for joining us
• 2:25:53
  tonight. Appreciate you guys.
• 2:25:54
  Thank you very much.