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- 1:30Speaker 1: flash now on Bluebird Radio. We take stock of healthcare.
- 1:38Speaker 1: We call it k B for sure. It's a major
- 1:40Speaker 1: source of healthcare expenditures. The issue of drug pricing has
- 1:44Speaker 1: been at the forefront, certainly in the political ground for
- 1:46Speaker 1: the last few months. I think we're living in a
- 1:49Speaker 1: very special time in the history of the pharmaceutical industry.
- 1:53Speaker 1: Before we start any pharmaceutical discovery, we want to understand
- 1:57Speaker 1: the patient biology for three percent of all pilot next
- 2:00Speaker 1: to start actually get a drug of food. It's a
- 2:02Speaker 1: very hard thing to do. Bloomberg takings to healthcare and
- 2:06Speaker 1: focus on Bloomberg radios, the price the cost of healthcare
- 2:10Speaker 1: in focus. Joining us now Susan Devour, President chief executive
- 2:15Speaker 1: of Premiere. Premiere, of course one of the leading provider
- 2:20Speaker 1: driven healthcare performance improvement companies. Susan joins us now. Susan,
- 2:25Speaker 1: thanks very much for being with us. Thank you tell
- 2:28Speaker 1: us a little bit about a Premiere and the quest too,
- 2:31Speaker 1: as you describe it in many of your your articles,
- 2:35Speaker 1: the prescription to fixed healthcare. How does Premiere fit in? So,
- 2:39Speaker 1: Premiere is an alliance of healthcare systems. We work with
- 2:44Speaker 1: secent of the hospitals and health healthcare systems around the
- 2:47Speaker 1: country trying to drive quality improvement, cost reduction, safety improvement,
- 2:52Speaker 1: and really help healthcare systems transform the way they're taking
- 2:56Speaker 1: care of the millions of patients in this country. And
- 2:58Speaker 1: of course a big part of that is UH drug prices.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Drug costs represent about four percent of the United States
- 3:05Speaker 1: three trillion dollar annual health expenditure. They're growing rapidly, total
- 3:09Speaker 1: drug spending up twelve point two percent last year. As
- 3:12Speaker 1: you point out in a recent analysis, you are have
- 3:15Speaker 1: a lot of insight and suggestions here. I'm particularly interested
- 3:20Speaker 1: in how generic drug price increases are contributing to the
- 3:24Speaker 1: growth in drug spending. So thank you for the question,
- 3:29Speaker 1: and at Premiere we're focused every day on on the
- 3:32Speaker 1: cost of not only drugs, but medical devices and the
- 3:35Speaker 1: overall cost of care. And when you look at drugs spending,
- 3:39Speaker 1: as you said, UM, it's at at one of the
- 3:41Speaker 1: highest levels it's been at in decades. And we really
- 3:45Speaker 1: think it Premiere the opportunity to bring competitive friction UH
- 3:50Speaker 1: to the drug marketplace. UM. Pushing along faster FDA approval,
- 3:56Speaker 1: getting faster adoption, of continuing adoption of in erics, and
- 4:01Speaker 1: also of biosimilar drugs, bringing transparency to the industry, all
- 4:07Speaker 1: of those things we think will be helpful in bringing
- 4:10Speaker 1: drug prices down over time. Do you think that the
- 4:13Speaker 1: federal government should be able to negotiate drug prices? You know,
- 4:17Speaker 1: at Premiere, we don't think price controls work. We think
- 4:21Speaker 1: it's very hard for government to make those clinical decisions
- 4:24Speaker 1: or intervene in those clinical decisions. We also don't think
- 4:28Speaker 1: that they can work rapidly enough to keep up with
- 4:31Speaker 1: what it takes to bring new drugs to market and
- 4:34Speaker 1: to evaluate the clinical effectiveness of them. So we don't
- 4:37Speaker 1: think price controls work, and a Premiere, we don't think
- 4:40Speaker 1: reimportation works. What we think works is bringing competitive friction
- 4:45Speaker 1: speeding up the approval process, educating consumers and educating providers
- 4:50Speaker 1: on the effectiveness of these generics and biosimilars, and we
- 4:54Speaker 1: think those things work. You know, you've also been appounding
- 4:58Speaker 1: the table about how the Affordable Care Act has affected hospitals,
- 5:03Speaker 1: and you want to reset the button on pay for
- 5:06Speaker 1: quality programs, how they're implemented for hospitals, What are they
- 5:10Speaker 1: and why are they contributing to costs? So, actually, at Premiere,
- 5:14Speaker 1: we think that there's a lot of bipartisans support, and
- 5:17Speaker 1: in an election year that's important for these forward looking
- 5:21Speaker 1: forms of paying for health care. So the idea that
- 5:25Speaker 1: you as a consumer would have UM your providers have accountability,
- 5:30Speaker 1: your doctors, your hospitals, your nursing homes, have connected and
- 5:34Speaker 1: coordinated accountability for the overall clinical efficacy and cost of
- 5:41Speaker 1: your care, we think has broad bipartisan support. And so
- 5:45Speaker 1: all these new models that are being rolled out by
- 5:48Speaker 1: the centers for Medicare and Medicaid, whether it's bundling payments together,
- 5:53Speaker 1: whether it's something called an accountable care organization, these are
- 5:56Speaker 1: all designed to try to bring coordination and interoperability of
- 6:02Speaker 1: technology systems and actually um patient involvement in the overall
- 6:09Speaker 1: coordination of care delivery. I want if you could talk
- 6:13Speaker 1: a little bit about prescription drugs, because prescription drugs are
- 6:16Speaker 1: the most expensive in the United States there twice as
- 6:19Speaker 1: high as prescription drug prices in the United Kingdom, Australia
- 6:23Speaker 1: or Canada. Well, I do think and at Premiere we
- 6:27Speaker 1: see because we do um GPO contracts and we try
- 6:32Speaker 1: to bring competitive friction to the contracting with pharmaceutical companies.
- 6:37Speaker 1: But we do see um that the United States funds
- 6:41Speaker 1: a lot of the innovation and a lot of the
- 6:44Speaker 1: cost of research and development to bring drugs to market
- 6:48Speaker 1: UM and we do see that with competition and with
- 6:52Speaker 1: the use of generics and biosimilars, you can see very
- 6:56Speaker 1: significant reductions in the price. So if we can get
- 6:59Speaker 1: generics to the market faster, very often they have an
- 7:02Speaker 1: eight or nine reduction in the price of the drug.
- 7:05Speaker 1: If we can get these biosimilars to market like they've
- 7:09Speaker 1: gotten them to market in Europe, uh, you'll see a
- 7:12Speaker 1: thirty reduction in the price of those drugs. So again
- 7:16Speaker 1: we think it's having clinical data on how these equivalent
- 7:21Speaker 1: drugs work. Speeding up the f d A. R f
- 7:24Speaker 1: d A is a very long process and cycle time,
- 7:28Speaker 1: so so we think there are a lot of things
- 7:30Speaker 1: that can be done to improve this Sits DeVore, President
- 7:33Speaker 1: CEO of Premiere on the front lines of dealing with
- 7:37Speaker 1: the health care system, and Kathie Hayes along with PM Fox,
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